PJSC Motovilikhinskiye Zavody fulfilled the state contract for MLRS Tornado-G

The final batch of combat vehicles from the multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) "Tornado-G" delivered to the Ministry of Defense of Russia CJSC "Special Design Bureau", which is part of the group of enterprises "Motovilikhinsky plants." This is stated in a press release received by Military Review from the press service of PJSC Motovilikhinsky Plants.

The final part of the combat vehicles from the Tornado-G MLRS was sent to units of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation as part of the implementation of the state defense order. The enterprise has fully and on time completed a range of works on repair and modernization of the Grad MLRS to the level of Tornado-G within the framework of the 2019 program of the year.

122-mm MLRS "Tornado-G" - an upgraded version of the installations "Grad". A feature is the increased firing efficiency, more powerful ammunition, the presence of automated guidance systems, aiming, topographic location and navigation. Adopted in the 2014 year. The nomenclature included cluster shells with a detachable warhead and self-aiming cumulative warheads.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that the BM-21 Grad missile systems being replaced by armaments will not be decommissioned, and as far as possible they will be upgraded to the Tornado-G MLRS level.

Motovilikhinskiye Zavody is the developer and the only manufacturer in Russia of combat and transport-loading vehicles from the composition of multiple launch rocket systems such as Grad, Smerch and their modified versions of Tornado-G, Tornado-S.

Comments

[RideMaster]

And what has happened with the bicaliber system has not been heard for a long time.
And how interesting is the tornado g delivered? Given the number of hailstones, probably a penny.

[parkello]

Tolik, right now, you’ll grab the minuses again to the very top ...

[RideMaster]

And I’m not writing for the badges, but I’m interested in what interests me, forgive me for the tautalogy.

[parkello]

You can and should be interested, but also ... there are certain frameworks in which you need to fit. what questions to the journalist who writes how masaret word for word, point to point from what they tell him? how should he know the nuances and details? and so .. your will, write what you want, I just warned. for example, they also put minuses. like min 2 minus every time. moreover, on comments where to put a minus, it can be ailing or impaired. yes, and I did not find a tautology , so forgive thee dumb for scho .. (as the Sumerians say)

[Lexus]

Tolik, right now, you’ll grab the minuses again to the very top ...

You cannot hide the sad truth with minuses. I dare to assume that for some "readers" the cursor on the minus icon is forcibly fixed. Apparently, so as not to get hurt.

[Civil]

And why are the old Urals, like on the new cabins already different.

[Lopatov]

Savings on candy wrappers
The notorious "serial experience" clearly showed the need for armored cabins for MLRS.
But apparently, the Moscow Region considered that preparing a new calculation and paying for the funeral of the previous one was much cheaper

[carstorm 11]

hail bring. instead of upgrading, do you propose to do new cars?)))

[Lopatov]

Quote: carstorm 11

hail bring. instead of upgrading, do you propose to do new cars?)))

Exactly.
To save money on candy wrappers is stupid. And expensive in the end.

[dzvero]

Then it’s better on a tank chassis, like Pinocchio / Solntsepek.

[Lopatov]

Quote: dzvero

Then it’s better on a tank chassis,

Operational mobility of tracked chassis is low.

[Lexus]

Remember, we discussed this topic a month ago. It is gratifying that we have nevertheless reached an understanding. And it is regrettable that the "Tornado-G" was even that "G".

[Lopatov]

Quote: lexus

And it is regrettable that the "Tornado-G" was even that "G".

Not "G". Just swing for a ruble and a blow for ... let it be 10 kopecks.
Definitely better than the BM-21.
But it’s not good enough for a modernization option that uses all available technologies

[Lexus]

Definitely better than the BM-21.

Without any doubt. 50 years have passed. If the required number of "Grads" in storage were brought to at least this level, it would be great.

But it’s not good enough for a modernization option that uses all available technologies

Yes, as it were, and a new generation of systems is time.

[Sochi]

these are not front-line vehicles ... and they should not fall into direct clashes, for this will already be a jamb of command.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sochi

these are not cutting edge machines ...

Who told you that?
In order to hit targets at a greater depth of battle formation, the firing ones must be positioned as close as possible to the line of contact.
In addition, firing units are forced to maneuver. This means that radar reconnaissance of moving targets can be detected. With the subsequent defeat by artillery.

[Sochi]

Anyone can be detected ... mobility, deployment time and leaving positions are their trump card. And booking everything is pointless and expensive. And for destroying distant targets, there are other systems designed for long-range shooting. Here are "Buratino" and "Sunshine" which are fighting on the front line of the base of the tank, their booking is justified.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sochi

mobility, deployment time and leaving positions - this is their trump card.

Exactly. Often already under enemy fire. And in the unarmored version it is ... problematic.

Quote: Sochi

And to destroy remote targets, there are other systems designed for long-range shooting.

So they are these systems.

[Sochi]

I am writing again, if you came under enemy fire - the command's jamb, the illiteracy of the application. For remote targets there are systems "tornado", "hurricane" and the like.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sochi

I am writing again if I came under enemy fire - a jamb of command

What should it do? Ask your opponent "please don't do this"? Or do not use MLRS at all "because we saved and did not book them"

Quote: Sochi

For remote targets there are systems "tornado", "hurricane" and the like.

They have their distant goals. And they will also have to be pulled as close to the line of contact as possible.

[Sochi]

There are tactics of using and performance characteristics of weapons, and the command is obliged to know and apply them, and not to expose the enemy to fire. The list of missile weapons is not limited to MLRS, there are other systems designed to destroy remote targets ... And not a single commander will put in the trenches on the front line of the MLRS system, since they are absolutely not intended for this ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sochi

There are tactics of application and performance characteristics of weapons, and the command is obliged

It is obliged to hit the reconnaissance targets with available means. Point Even if they were unarmored due to some not very smart but very economical ones.

Quote: Sochi

The list of missile weapons is not limited to MLRS, there are other systems designed to destroy remote targets ...

What kind????
Even "Points" were written off. Are you going to jam every motorized infantry company on the march in the rear with Iskander?
For a brigade-division, the "long arm" is "Grad" / "Tornado-G" And they will have to be used.

Quote: Sochi

in the trenches on the front line

And how deep is your "front line"? Kilometers at 25-30?

[Sky strike fighter]

What kind????
Even "Points" were written off. Are you going to jam every motorized infantry company on the march in the rear with Iskander?
For a brigade-division, the "long arm" is "Grad" / "Tornado-G" And they will have to be used.

Tochka-U had a range of 120 km, like the new Tornado-S, which replaced them. They even talk about the possibility of increasing the destruction range of Tornado-G to 100 km.

the fire control system has changed - now it is automated, includes a ballistic computer, and the block with guides can be guided without leaving the truck cab. Due to this, it was possible to reduce the crew of the car and reduce the time for putting into combat readiness.
For "Tornado-G" were developed new missiles. For comparison, a 9M22 high-explosive projectile shell used by the Grad system had a range of up to 20 km and a warhead weight of 18,4 kg. The new 9M522 shell brought the mass of the warhead to 25 kg, and the range increased to 37 km, an electronic fuse appeared with the possibility of detonation at a given distance.
There was also information that the range of the shot could be increased to 100 km, but it was not specified which of the missiles and due to what.

https://warbook.club/voennaya-tehnika/artilleriya/tornado/

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Tochka-U had a range of 120 km, like the new Tornado-S, which replaced them.

MLRS can not replace a guided missile.

[Sky strike fighter]

The Tornado-S has both new 300 mm unguided rockets with a maximum range of up to 120 km, and a 9M542 adjustable missile with a detachable high-explosive or cluster warhead with a firing range of up to 120 km.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

missile

All "tornado" shells, starting from the very first, were not uncontrollable. All had and still have a correction system on the active part of the trajectory.
That's just this correction occurs in the first seconds of the flight. For the sake of reducing the dispersion of RS in a salvo. For it is MLRS. The same thing happens with the time of separation of the head part. Already in flight, an adjustment is made for the separation time. To reduce range dispersion. Again, because it's MLRS.

You do not like the term "guided missile", let's call it, for example. "tactical". That's not the point. The bottom line is that "tornado" missiles are used in one gulp and they hit group / area targets. And it doesn't matter how much electronics are stuffed into the rocket to reduce dispersion.

[Sky strike fighter]

You do not like the term "guided missile", let's call it, for example. "tactical". That's not the point. The bottom line is that "tornado" missiles are used in one gulp and they hit group / area targets. And it doesn't matter how much electronics are stuffed into the rocket to reduce dispersion.

So the Tornado-S will have a guided tactical missile.

The announcement of the latest missile for the Russian Tornado-S multiple launch rocket system was timed to coincide with this visit. It is a long-range guided missile capable of hitting targets with meter accuracy at ranges up to 200 km.

What algorithm is the basis of the guidance system is unknown. (The author would apply the Pontryagin optimization created by a Russian scientist and successfully used in many systems.) One thing is important - constantly updating its coordinates and adjusting flight, the rocket will go to a target located at a distance of 200 km. We do not know which part of the gain in range is due to new fuels, and which is achieved due to the fact that more fuel can be put into a guided missile, reducing the weight of the warhead.

https://www.popmech.ru/weapon/369452-tornado-s-novye-dalnoboynye-rakety-rossiysko-armii/

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

It is a long-range guided missile capable of hitting targets with meter accuracy at ranges up to 200 km.

Then it's even worse than I thought. Anyway, what to make the butt of a machine in the form of a shovel, in order to dig it was convenient.

[Sky strike fighter]

Why don’t you have enough? What would you like ideally? I still can’t understand. Replace Points-U or what?

[Lopatov]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

What are you missing?

Separately machine and separately shovels.

[Sky strike fighter]

I’m talking about Tornado-S, and you’re talking about a machine, some kind of shovel. Perhaps you don’t have a sapper shovel? Therefore, you’re not happy that Tornado-C without a sapper blade is included. So tell me. Of course, where are the Shovels and without a shovel? Not order. Yes, but why do you need a machine gun? Th one soper blade already missing? Now also with a gun. Cottage to guard or what?

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: RideMaster

And what has happened with the bicaliber system has not been heard for a long time.
And how interesting is the tornado g delivered? Given the number of hailstones, probably a penny.

Bicaliber Tornado-U was abandoned in favor of Tornado-G and Tornado-S, whose supplies go to the troops. Tornado-S is preferable to Tornado-U. Judge for yourself.

One volley "Tornado-S" sweeps everything on an area of ​​67 hectares! To achieve this effect allow advanced shells.

New unguided rockets of 300 mm caliber with a maximum flight range of up to 120 km, as well as a 9M542 adjustable missile with a detachable high-explosive or cluster munition unit with a firing range of up to 120 km, are some of the most innovative “products” of Techmash defenders.

And very scanty is the scanty information about the appearance of the latest long-range guided missile in Russia for the Tornado-S multiple launch rocket system. It is capable of hitting targets at ranges of up to 200 kilometers with a deviation from just one meter from the designated “point”!

At the end of December 2017, at the summing up of 2017, the developer and manufacturer of domestic multiple rocket launcher systems of the Tula Research and Production Association Splav reported that the Tornado-S MLRS passed military tests in Syria.

Comprehensive testing of the system in a real military conflict was considered successful.

MLRS "Tornado-S" has already been adopted by the troops of the Western and Southern military districts.

https://zvezdaweekly.ru/news/t/2019561326-FelI2.html

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Powerful thing .. Convincing ..

[Zaurbek]

In general, there are already serial Urals with armored cabs. Why not use it right away? It’s easy to fly back, whatever it is 155mm .... taking into account the fact that it shoots further and there are artradars for notching.

[awg75]

you my friend artillery just imagine poorly)))

[Zaurbek]

Military department .... reserve lieutenant. Battery Commander MT-12

[Azis]

Quote: Zaurbek

It’s easy to fly back whatever 155mm ..

What is the point then in booking the Urals?

[Zaurbek]

Shards .... Carl.

[awg75]

great technique. good news

[Paul Siebert]

As a Perm - I am proud of my fellow countrymen! Half of the world is fighting with our "Grads", the other half of the world is dreaming of our "Tornadoes"! More new systems! Modern and powerful!

[Rusfaner]

Quote: Paul Siebert

As a Perm - I am proud of my fellow countrymen! Half of the world is fighting with our "Grads", the other half of the world is dreaming of our "Tornadoes"! More new systems! Modern and powerful!

Like Perm, Perm - proud of Motovilikha! During the war, my dad made ML-20 guns there, and since the 62nd year, according to his author’s gun carriages have been welded at the factory. And my mother in the sixties at the same factory worked as deputy chief mechanic.

[Mavrikiy]

PJSC Motovilikhinskiye Zavody fulfilled the state contract for MLRS Tornado-G
Earlier, the Ministry of Defense reported that the BM-21 Grad missile systems being replaced by armaments will not be decommissioned, and as far as possible they will be upgraded to the Tornado-G MLRS level.

So it's time to open and fulfill a new order.