For the first time shown the homing head of the Ukrainian rocket "Neptune"

For the first time in Ukraine, the homing head of the P-360 anti-ship missile, which is part of the RK-360MC Neptune complex, is presented to the general public. Despite the signature stamp surrounding products of this type, some characteristics of the designated equipment were disclosed.

Allegedly, the homing head of the P-360 Neptune cruise missile, developed by Radionx, refers to a combined active radar dual-band type. She is able to recognize the target at a distance of 50 km, being resistant to interference generated by the enemy.

During the first stage of the flight, the RCC, following a low path, is controlled by an inertial system that works in conjunction with satellite navigation. When approaching the target, the rocket rises to a height of several hundred meters and includes a homing head. After recognizing the object to be destroyed, the anti-ship missile system returns to ultra-low altitude again.

In this case, the rocket is able to follow actively maneuvering targets, since the head has maximum deflection angles of ± 60 °. For comparison, the American RCC Harpoon, a similar indicator is ± 45 °. In Ukraine, they are proud that in this indicator their rocket is superior to the American one.

According to the military department, it is planned to complete state tests of the Neptune complex by the end of this year.

Comments

[Mavrikiy]

as the head has a maximum deflection angle of ± 60 °. For comparison, the American RCC Harpoon, a similar indicator is ± 45 °. In Ukraine, they are proud that in this indicator their rocket is superior to the American one.

We are also proud, now she will be able to fly to where they did not let her go. Everything is good in moderation.

[Prisoner]

I suspect that Soviet designers were already proud of the maximum angles a long time ago. Do not go to a fortuneteller, second-hand.

[7,62x54]

The head seemed ....

[novel66]

Is it a head?

[Alexander Petrov1]

There probably only the Ukrainian assembly, and everything else Chinese and NATO ...

[Well done]

On aliexpress purchased 11.11

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

I suppose the definition "square" should still be used in quotation marks.

[rocket757]

Here is something standard, you can really not invent and try to do it on the knee. Just BUY, it will be much better.
And so, in the case, it is necessary to restore industry, production and the scientific and design base.
The path known to many, o-ho-ho.

[Chingachguk]

The head appeared, the head hid, appeared, hid, this is another achievement of the Ukrainians. Since 2014, they and their whole lives are so ..... dry ....

[NordOst16]

Well, we have one too, then they promised 30 senies, then 20, and now they’ll do 9. In fact, the same story was with the frigates, they promised an armada, but in reality they only let down 2 since 2006.
Everything is not so cloudless in our kingdom in order to laugh at Ukrainians.

[Ivan Ivanovich I]

Nobody promised you anything. Serial production of Armat will be in 2020. An order for 100 units has already arrived ..

[NordOst16]

Who needs these armats, we have a problem with the fleet.

Quote: Ivan Ivanovich I

Nobody promised you anything.

I can look for statements by representatives of the Moscow Region who voiced plans for the number of frigates and nuclear submarines. And there is none of this.

[Bshkaus]

Who needs these armats, we have a problem with the fleet.

but about the promised 1000 helicopters by 2020, I wouldn’t mention it better then)))) Yes, and it was at the time of the dollar, 23 rubles each, therefore, we can say that this is already not true))))

[Chingachguk]

What have you listed, are you comparing with the head in Ukraine? Nothing to be proud of Russians? Nothing to brag about? Is everything like in Ukraine? They also steal, just jump, burn people, demolish monuments, and just besides the head ......... does Russia have anything else? I disagree with you.

[NordOst16]

Not yet, but is taking a quiet step in that direction. For citizens are dissatisfied with the government, and the government is only involved in tightening the screws, this is very dangerous and something needs to be done.

[Chingachguk]

What, for example? Jump and change government in Russia? Did I understand you correctly?

[NordOst16]

Hmm, can provide an institution of change of power and ensure a change of government in case of loss of vote of confidence (because we have it completely non-working)?
Or do you prefer to sit and wait from the weather god and tighten your belts to ensure the further welfare of the families of officials and the government with low social responsibility?

[Chingachguk]

Sobchak offer? Does she have high social responsibility? Or a thief from Zyuganov? In Ukraine, they replaced a bad leader with a good leader, so what? Do you offer Russians a trip to a deep anus? No, thanks, take the Hohlbrothers by the handles and roam there along with them.

[NordOst16]

Quote: Chingachguk

Do you offer Russians a trip to a deep anus?

So we are already walking in the bright future.

Quote: Chingachguk

No, thanks, take the Hohlbrothers by the handles and roam there along with them.

We have our worthy representatives - Serdyukov, Rogozin, Sechin, Medvedev and the main cherry on the cake - GDP.
All as one patriots, athletes and just good people.

Quote: Chingachguk

Sobchak offer? Does she have high social responsibility? Or a thief from Zyuganov?

At least nothing will change

[Ham]

Why are they showing her in pieces?

[Non liberoid Russian]

the bolts from ali at the post office are lost, they cannot assemble

[Mountain shooter]

If a set of ready-made elements - maybe they will collect several. If electronics have to be manufactured - hopelessness ... They will not come out "in series" ... It is not clear what the sensitivity is. What is the noise immunity. Well this will be a big secret. And the most important secret - who will give out target designation for these ... beyond the radio horizon?
"Nezalezhnaya" will launch a rocket into an IMPLIED target area? And there she "jokes herself"?

[NordOst16]

Your questions to our zircon lovers)))
Most likely, coastal complexes will be guided by radars included in the complex. Naval radar (if they can find ships and install these anti-ship missiles) or aviation radar (if they can install them on airplanes).
And yes, there is a critical shortage of missile search and guidance tools in Ukraine.
As for the electronics - perhaps it will be even easier for them because they will be able to purchase foreign electronics (it is no secret that this is not all right with us).
As for entering the series - yes, there is a possibility that the series will not be.

[SeregaBoss]

From the forest, from the mountains
Showed Ukrainian ax ....

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Poor airlines ...-)

[Antares]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Poor airlines ...-)

this is RCC and not SAM

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

To blame. Then, the cruise company.

[Antares]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

To blame. Then, the cruise company.

Now is not the season.
Yes, and the ports of Crimea are closed, now Cruises are incomplete.

[Cat]

Only the RCC does not know about it ..

[The leader of the Redskins]

It is a pity that no professional commentary was heard behind verbal garbage, and it would be interesting to read a competent opinion.

[kjhg]

This happens all the time if the article is about Ukraine or India.
In the case of bringing this Neptune to mind, our patrol and border ships that do not have air defense systems, as well as RTOs and even frigates 11356, will face a serious threat from Ukraine. These devils are not afraid to provoke at the most inopportune moment. This will have to be taken into account.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

I don’t think that Ukraine would dare to attack any Russian ship, since it understands that on the one hand the entire Black Sea is blocked by our air defense system located both in the Crimea and on ships, the speed of the S-400 / Poliment-Redoub launcher reaches 4800 meters / second is 17 km / h, and on the other hand, an attack on a Russian ship or military base in Crimea will mean a declaration of war and then nothing will save Ukraine.

So, RCC Neptune is not a critical threat to the Russian fleet and naval bases.

Let them shout, they will rejoice, and then they will understand that this rocket will not help them in any way, either militarily or economically.

A missile of this type "Harpoon" of the USA, the Kh-35 Russia cost about 300 dollars. Let them spend budget money, less will go to the ground forces.

But the Russian fleet is not such a threat.

[Mimoprohodil]

No ships from Polement Redoubt in the Black Sea

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No ships from Polement Redoubt in the Black Sea

Is something preventing the already built ships, pr. 20380 and pr. 22350, from entering the Black Sea?

Or maybe the S-400 is not in the Crimea on combat duty?

[The leader of the Redskins]

By the way, I just read on Ukrainian resources that the first 100 Alder RSs have arrived in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here is "dumb gold reserve", and "they will not do anything ..."

[Antares]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

By the way, I just read on Ukrainian resources that the first 100 Alder RSs have arrived in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Here is "dumb gold reserve", and "they will not do anything ..."

production of 130 million UAH; new fuel in Pavlograd cost 800 million
Not counting flow and others. About 3 billion UAH.
Given that Alder and Neptune are funded uninterruptedly (to the detriment of the fleet), this is a priority.

[Cat]

And there is nothing to comment on. "Neptune" is a decommunized X-35. The wiki has a sectional photo of the X-35E seeker - look and compare the element base. The modernized versions of the Bal and Uranium SCRCs were put into service in the Russian Federation 15 years ago, were delivered to India, maybe somewhere else - so there is a share in jokes about buying Chinese components on Ali ...

[region58]

Quote: Gato

photo GOS X-35E in a section - look

Think it seems?

[Cat]

So I’m talking about ... Flimsy open-sided shawls, plastic connectors. At one time, I served in the military acceptance for a couple of years and still remember what requirements are imposed on rocket technology (especially sea-based) in terms of resistance to shock loads, vibration, climate, etc. And here is the technological culture at the level of 90’s Chinese wheeze years

[region58]

Quote: Gato

open mounting scarves, plastic connectors

Do you want to say that it does not even pull "5", let alone "7" and "9"?
If you add here dangling wires (or cooling pipes - I did not understand ), it really looks like this is either a demo sample, or a layout on which one or another solution is being worked out. Or they showed the journalists something prettier - like, here you are, look and roll off, don’t interfere with the work, and the representatives of the second oldest are very greedy for such things ... By the way, the connectors are fixed with screws.

[Cat]

Do you want to say that it does not pull even the acceptance of "5"

As far as I know, in Ukraine the terms "acceptance 1" (factory quality control department) and "acceptance 5" (VP or PZ) are not used at all, they work according to the old GOSTs of the "B" series. The VP accepts if his participation is spelled out in the contract (the Contractor hangs ), and if not, then at best pocket OTK. Well, anti-ship missiles do not fall under "9", not space after all.
It looks like it's a layout. And from the layout to the prototype - how many. And to the series even further.

[rotmistr60]

In Ukraine, they are proud that in this indicator their rocket surpasses the American

And if you add to this all that Zelensky credited to Ukrainians the other day (from a helicopter to the first satellite), and add the statement that the Ukrainians raised agricultural Canada, Argentina and other countries to the highest level, then it’s time to go to the stove and reap laurels.

[bouncyhunter]

Gene salute!

Quote: rotmistr60

time to go to the stove and reap laurels

So already: they lie and dream of dumplings, which themselves fly into their mouths.
But seriously: the skakuas periodically boast of prodigies, but they all remain mock-ups or (at best) test samples or (at worst) bullets in their own way.

[Andrea]

What ship is it so actively maneuvering that a rocket chasing it can break in two? The pride is strange ... stronger means harder, with the ensuing consequences, or they are hunting for the "Caspian monsters".

[Yaro Polk]

".. working in conjunction with satellite navigation."
What kind of satellite do they have there, Lybid?

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

It is a pity that no professional commentary was heard behind verbal garbage, and it would be interesting to read a competent opinion.

That is why those who know are silent that there is nothing to talk about. Chatter to start on existing material? This is on the bench at the entrance of the grandmother for any reason ....

[MONTEVIDEO01]

And this is a profile company is Radionics LLC?

Kiev enterprise LLC "Radionix" engaged in the development, repair and modernization of on-board radio electronic systems and optoelectronic equipment - presented the system of electronic protection of aircraft "Omut"

https://stailker.livejournal.com/766623.html

Company Radioniks (https://www.radionix.com.ua/) - a participant in the “Zbroya bezpeka-2019” exhibition. The main strands of the dyalnostі kompanії є: - modernization of the radio control systems of the management of the rotary landing and landing
- dezrobka і virobnitstvo meteorological navigation radar;
- Development of radar systems of synthesis of apertures.
Take the fate of the vistavtsi "ZBROYA TA BEZPEKA - 2019": http://www.iec-expo.com.ua/uk/uchasnikam/zamoviti-stend.html

https://www.facebook.com/expo.weapon/posts/1007265159472053

[Ivan Ivanovich I]

Another wunderwaffle from the non-brothers, which has no analogues in the world. They can put this head into the hole, for it is not intended for other purposes.

[Old26]

Quote: Mavrikiy

as the head has a maximum deflection angle of ± 60 °. For comparison, the American RCC Harpoon, a similar indicator is ± 45 °. In Ukraine, they are proud that in this indicator their rocket is superior to the American one.

We are also proud, now she will be able to fly to where they did not let her go. Everything is good in moderation.

Actually, it's rather silly to close your eyes to what your "neighbor" creates, which is not "friend, comrade and brother" to you. But the fact that their rocket has an azimuth deviation parameter of ± 60 ° is really an achievement for them. Our "Uranus" and "Calibers" have this parameter in reality, like the Americans ± 45 °

Quote: Alexander Petrov1

There probably only the Ukrainian assembly, and everything else Chinese and NATO ...

And what is the difference in principle. We, too, probably not all "import substituted" and it is possible that the same electronics in our country has Chinese roots. You shouldn't laugh at your neighbors when things are not always going smoothly in this respect ...

Quote: Mountain Shooter

If a set of ready-made elements - maybe they will collect several. If electronics have to be manufactured - hopelessness ... They will not come out "in series" ... It is not clear what the sensitivity is. What is the noise immunity. Well this will be a big secret. And the most important secret - who will give out target designation for these ... beyond the radio horizon?
"Nezalezhnaya" will launch a rocket into an IMPLIED target area? And there she "jokes herself"?

Evgeniy! Do not forget that the neighbors still have not everything collapsed to zero. And if my sclerosis does not change me, then PA Artem was engaged in its time precisely in air-to-air missiles and precisely with the GOS. For the Union, by the way. So do not indulge yourself with the illusion that they have enough components for a couple of missiles and that's it. It is better, nevertheless, in their calculations to accept the condition that they will be able to establish a series and, accordingly, fend off the threat, and not then scratch their turnips and not ask the question, but "where did they get so much from?"
As the ancients say - "Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst."
As for the rocket flight algorithm, it is absolutely identical with our and the American version. We also have the same "Caliber", when launched, rises to a height of about 150 meters, accelerates to cruising speed, then descends to the SMV about 10-15 meters and goes on inertial. Kilometers 40-60 from the approximate location of the target "Caliber" rises to a height of 400 meters, the target is captured and again descends to heights of 5-15 meters. Similarly, "Neptune"
Who will issue the primary target designation? Well, they still have planes, as well as radars. This is not 700-900 km, but just a couple of hundred ...

[Sky strike fighter]

then PA "Artem" was engaged in its time precisely with missiles of the "air-to-air" class and with the seeker. For the Union, by the way. So do not indulge yourself with the illusion that they have enough components for a couple of missiles and that's it.

The Kiev enterprise LLC "Radionix" is said to have developed the GOS, and not the software "Artem", which is alarming, if, again, they really believe.

[Sky strike fighter]

Actually, it is rather stupid to close your eyes to what your "neighbor" creates, which is not your "friend, comrade and brother". But the fact that their rocket has an azimuth deviation parameter of ± 60 ° is really an achievement for them.

Yes, but for some reason they are going to arm their new corvettes not with RCC Neptune, but with French RCC Exocet. Funny, isn't it?

[Antares]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Yes, but for some reason they are going to arm their new corvettes not with RCC Neptune, but with French RCC Exocet. Funny, isn't it?

funny because they were laid back in shaggy years. And under the armament. There was no RCC.
Then we decided that it would be more profitable to create our own anti-ship missiles and put them on all platforms. We saved the fleet (with European weapons) and let's rive the anti-ship missiles. By the way, it turned out cheaper than one corvette.
When laying the Corvette project, Ukraine did not have RCCs; everyone decided to buy in Europe.

[Brturin]

Quote: kjhg

In the case of bringing to mind this Neptune, our patrol and border ships that do not have air defense

Without air defense means - it’s clear that the ship is not an airplane, but opposed to the GEOS EW; for aviation, Khibiny, Vitebsk, the President ...

[Old26]

Quote: BrTurin

Without air defense means - it’s clear that the ship is not an airplane, but opposed to the GEOS EW; for aviation, Khibiny, Vitebsk, the President ...

So this is for aviation. And whether and what means of electronic warfare are available on the same "Buyan-M" or "Karakurt" - that is the question. The fact that there is no air defense is already a minus. And such ships can become quite easy prey for anti-ship missiles.

[D16]

No air defense - this is already a minus.

At these IRAs, air defense systems are quite adequate to the displacement. There, and the rocket is far from a mineral. Vitality below the baseboard.

[Anton Sokolov]

already laugh in the voice?)

[Old26]

Quote: Sky Strike fighter

Yes, but for some reason they are going to arm their new corvettes not with RCC Neptune, but with French RCC Exocet. Funny, isn't it?

Maksim! They have been carrying models of this corvette to EMNIP exhibitions since the beginning of the 2000s, I think since 2002. At first it was the 58200 "Gaiduk-21" project, then 58250 (from 2012). Then they did not even think about their anti-ship missile "Neptune". By the way, the corvettes of this project could be armed with both "Uranami" and "Exocet" (artillery is also our 100-mm, and "Oto Melara")
The first such corvette was laid back in 2011 and its readiness is about 50%. So it is not known whether he will be at all, not to mention what kind of RCC there will be

[Old26]

Quote: Anton Sokolov

already laugh in the voice?)

You can and laugh ...

[NF68]

This homing head should respond especially well to fat with a chorus, capturing it at any range, in any weather conditions and when the enemy uses electronic warfare equipment.

[Old26]

Quote: D16

No air defense - this is already a minus.

At these IRAs, air defense systems are quite adequate to the displacement. There, and the rocket is far from a mineral. Vitality below the baseboard.

Do you think that MANPADS are a sufficient means of protection against anti-ship missiles?

[winter 15]

And who saw this model beside the photographer? That's when our satellites will record launches and the most important defeat of goals then progress. And just a pan with phased lattice.

[max702]

Ukrainians have already shot down planes .. Now civilian vessels will begin to sink too ..

[tolmachiev51]

- "In Ukraine, they are proud that their missile is superior to the American one in this indicator" - wait for the sanctions !!!. They will not forgive you for this, they will stupidly prohibit production because the slave should not be smarter than the owner.

[Old26]

Quote: winter 15

And who saw this model beside the photographer? That's when our satellites will record launches and the most important defeat of goals then progress. And just a pan with phased lattice.

Video launches a wagon and a small cart. Videos of hits on the target are always very, very few. Sometimes it doesn't happen at all. For example, I HAVE NEVER SEEN "Caliber" hitting a sea target. But this does not mean that such a missile does not exist in our country and that it does not hit the target. Sorry, but your conditions regarding the provision of video information about the launch and defeat are an attempt to "save face", saying that our "neighbor" can do nothing.
But in vain. With such neighbors, hoping for the best, you still need to prepare for the worst. And to be prepared for the fact that they can equip their small fleet with this complex, like the coastal units ...

Quote: tolmachiev51

- "In Ukraine, they are proud that their missile is superior to the American one in this indicator" - wait for the sanctions !!!. They will not forgive you for this, they will stupidly prohibit production because the slave should not be smarter than the owner.

The fact that the Ukrainian GOS has surpassed the American warhead half a century ago in its performance characteristics (survey sector) is no reason to ban production in Ukraine. America, this GOS is a damn thing. Moreover, other parameters are completely unknown. Interference immunity, selectivity and other parameters of the GOS (except for the enlarged sector)

[Bobby zi]

It should be noted that the expert who wrote this collected information from the technical specification for such complexes, believing that it was done according to such principles. The antenna is assembled from segments of 3 elements, these segments are located at the edges. In the center are segments of 4 elements and 6 elements. The fact that the elements are not identical suggests that it was necessary to reduce the mutual influence of the elements on each other. This was done in order to build a monopulse system. In general, such a "masterpiece" betrays its creator as not experienced in antenna design. We tried to reduce the influence as best we could ... The antenna was built on the so-called patches from Rodgers 5880. Powering each patch also spoils the radiation pattern of a single emitter. I can only sympathize with the developers how much time and effort they spent on such patterns and ornaments. The antenna constructed in this way is rather narrow-band, not more than 2% of the central frequency. Single-band seeker, that's for sure! The next conclusion speaks for itself that a locator with such an antenna will be easily drowned out, because it operates in a very narrow frequency band, there is nowhere to get away from interference in frequency to the left or to the right, 2% of the band! The operating frequency, judging from the size of the patch, is somewhere between 14-19 GHz, it is difficult to determine by eye. The capture range at these frequencies is three times less than stated! 12-15 km.
It’s not clear to me how a little tidied up to such topics, why should this be laid out for consideration ?! Either they completely think that they have done something worthy or this is one of the trial options. Such antennas need to be made waveguide-helium.