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About US Army Promotion

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Surely many remember the catch phrase of the Russian writer Alexander Fomich Pogossky: “It’s a bad thing a soldier who does not dream of being a general”, whose authorship is also given to Napoleon. These words perfectly show that almost every soldier, sooner or later, dreams of replenishing the ranks of his officers and moving up the military career ladder.


Promotion in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the form of conferring a rank is strictly regulated by legislative acts. To move up the "hierarchical" ladder, you need to have education, specialized knowledge, skills and talents.

However, there is an opinion among officers that there is no promotion system as such. There are military men who continue to believe that the decisive moment here is the so-called “start-up” capital in the person of the father or other close relative — the general, as well as other beneficial ties. They associate career growth with the thickness of the wallet. For them, the American army is an exemplary career development system, where "everything is built competently and fairly."

Is it so? About how the process of promotion in the US Army is going on, in the video below will tell the US Army soldier, who is also a former Ukrainian military, Ivan Rudenko:

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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 12 November 2019 08: 05 New
    +10
    Armies are inherent in the same vices that prevail in the state and society!
    This is a peculiar, but not a separate structure !!!
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 November 2019 09: 51 New
      +1
      in fact, everything is not so simple. dynasties as an example. if your ancestors created a name all your life, then at least you cannot dishonor it. but there is a big profit you are always in sight. and of course they pay more attention to you. advance advances but if you squint it flies more than others. recently, shoulder straps were handed over to new generals, say 42 years. and dad is not his general)
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 November 2019 10: 29 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        recently, shoulder straps were handed over to new generals, say 42 years. and dad is not his general)

        Everything is within acceptable fluctuations. There is nothing new in that.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 November 2019 11: 06 New
          +1
          not everyone is given command of Tamanskaya)
  2. Far B
    Far B 12 November 2019 08: 47 New
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    If I am not mistaken, Napoleon is credited with the phrase about the marshal's wand, which lies in the knapsack of every soldier. However, the essence is the same.
    1. Mytholog
      Mytholog 12 November 2019 12: 57 New
      0
      Frederick the Great phrase about a knapsack.
  3. Potato
    Potato 12 November 2019 08: 53 New
    +4
    Warriors - rejoice. You have at least a promotion and career there. And here we are in Pasha’s civilian life for one salary)) There is still the option of being a huckster-businessman –– but this is not for everyone and not for me –– always despised parasitic speculators who produce nothing, but noticeably add the final cost. And I hate moneylenders) therefore I am engaged in the science of profanity for crazy money from the budget. We do unnecessary articles and reports on sawn-off grants and money pumped back to ministries to anyone drinks

    For stability!)))
    1. maxim947
      maxim947 12 November 2019 08: 58 New
      +1
      There is much more harm from you, they provide at least some service, but you have pure theft.
      1. Potato
        Potato 12 November 2019 09: 03 New
        +2
        Yes, I agree) But all the same - hucksters and usurers are mean and low people. Although they live well laughing
        1. maxim947
          maxim947 12 November 2019 09: 04 New
          +1
          I am closely associated with various research institutes, and I perfectly understand your occupation. Not scary?
          1. Potato
            Potato 12 November 2019 09: 12 New
            +3
            Not. Does not matter. Why should I be afraid? I am a mechanical performer. Let those who built this house of cards are afraid, and they have it - they still have something to be afraid of))

            Yes, and tired. I want something for the soul, but not all
            1. maxim947
              maxim947 12 November 2019 16: 25 New
              +1
              Well, at least honestly)))
    2. Glory1974
      Glory1974 12 November 2019 09: 12 New
      +1
      Warriors - rejoice. You have at least a promotion and career there. And here we have a citizen Pasha for one salary

      Not always a civilian has no career, not always in the army you are ensured progress.
      Full of examples. Starting with contact officers who can serve as a simple driver all their lives, and warrant officers. When I came to serve as a lieutenant, a major, the head of the unit’s service, spoke to me. I was transferred as a major to a new duty station, and he still sat as a major, and so retired.
      When I worked in a private security company, I had a chief, deputy general director, who got out of ordinary security guards, a competent man
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 November 2019 09: 45 New
      +3
      comrades generally also build houses and roads. repair your cars and tv. and many many many more. starting from a haircut (see yourself as a haircut) and to basic food in the store. they transport you on buses and planes and raise cows so that you would drink milk in the evening. but for some reason, boast that all your life you are engaged in profanity for the state budget. do you hear yourself?)))
      1. Potato
        Potato 12 November 2019 10: 11 New
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        I hear, I hear))

        Only now, the profit of commerce is not regulated in any way, and their appetites are not restrained by anything in our country. Therefore, they put most in their pocket, have extra profits, and consumers - rising prices for everything and unreasonably high tariffs.

        So they build (a square meter at the price of a car) and carry (by bus at the price of a taxi). Only neither the builder, nor the driver, nor the consumer have any more from this. But the owner and top management of a construction company of cheloveyniks and lousy minibuses can ride Maybach along the cote d'azur. Just)))
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 12 November 2019 10: 13 New
          +4
          Well, they at least do something))) and you judging by your own words nothing) and which of you is worse?)))
          1. Potato
            Potato 12 November 2019 11: 09 New
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            It’s better not to do anything and not harm anyone. Amen winked
            1. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 12 November 2019 12: 05 New
              +2
              Sit in a research institute, get a salary, do nothing and do no harm to anyone? You gobble up empty government money that is made up of taxes from the same businesses.
              1. Potato
                Potato 12 November 2019 12: 52 New
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                Only those who do something useful with their labor do no harm.

                Why are you so excited, my dear? Are you a speculator who makes money by exploiting someone else's labor or reselling? So not only do you have to take taxes from your profits. This profit is not yours — it is the fruits of the labor of others. They will simply disperse us, and they will hang you soon, and you should not be surprised then laughing
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 12 November 2019 12: 54 New
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                  Not a huckster, and not a speculator. I work in production, produce. I work out my salary. Salary is not paid by the state. Arranges?
                  1. Potato
                    Potato 12 November 2019 13: 15 New
                    +1
                    Well then it does not concern you. I am glad that there are worthy people.
                2. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 12 November 2019 13: 00 New
                  +3
                  we’re all right from fear))) you forgot something and this is very important. all whom you dislike so much make your whole life a little better and easier. you and people like you do nothing except chatter. you do not hate them, but envy them. can not answer) I have seen enough of these for my life) almost verbatim speeches))) eat on our taxes and be proud that I pay them more than a year, for example, per month)))
                  1. Potato
                    Potato 12 November 2019 13: 17 New
                    0
                    Wow, what a multi-station))) Yes, we know such. You do not work - and your money works for you. And you work no more than the rest. To manage is not to work.

                    And to be afraid or not - I do not care about you. As you want. But then do not be surprised when all the messes go with this unfortunate country together.
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 12 November 2019 19: 41 New
                      -2
                      yeah) another smart one. I left home at 14. I haven’t seen a normal vacation since I was 12. I have two children and are planning a third. in a life a stranger a penny did not take. I am afraid of you not to respect yourself.
    4. NEOZ
      NEOZ 13 November 2019 10: 22 New
      -1
      Quote: Potato
      And here we have a citizen Pasha for one salary all the zhist))

      go serve in the army on a contract!
  4. knn54
    knn54 12 November 2019 09: 04 New
    +2
    "Can the colonel’s son become a general. No, the general also has a son."
    (Armenian radio)
    Somehow in the distant 70s I talked with Bulgarian aircraft, In the USSR, the ceiling-starley. He was a lieutenant colonel, though with higher education. Ie for the length of service, I think it's fair.
  5. YOUR
    YOUR 12 November 2019 09: 10 New
    -2
    So it’s clear. Among the rank and file and sergeant, everything can be said at the level, but like those who have a higher rank. As an example, McCain.
    Such a brief biography of him.
    Released from almost a thousand third from the rear, more often wandered around brothels than in class. During service, he broke three planes due to flight violations. In Vietnam, he often did not complete missions dumping bombs anywhere, while he expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that the command was sending bombing to the wrong targets, and very strong air defense had to be overcome. But he didn’t resent and received a rocket. Although you are already beginning to doubt whether or not he freaked out of the plane when he discovered that a missile was being aimed at him. ...... A lot can be written about his adventures in the USA, in Spain, but ..... Conclusion if someone else could move in the service, receive ranks and positions if it weren’t for Papa Admiral and Grandfather Admiral. Moreover, both translated into our ranks were admirals of the fleet, the highest admiral ranks. Dad also became the commander of the US Navy in Europe. It is surprising that D. McCain himself did not become an admiral. But just like that, of the thousands of captured pilots, he was chosen and he became a naval communications officer under the American Senate.
    As you can see, everything was achieved by himself, and there were no dad and grandfather pusher there. :-)
  6. Glory1974
    Glory1974 12 November 2019 09: 19 New
    +7
    I read the memoirs of an American general who served in the 90-2000 years.
    They have a lot of problems with personnel, about the same as ours.
    But in general, for example, in Operation Desert Storm, only one general, brigade commander, was removed from command. everyone else did their job.
    And in our 94, about a dozen generals refused the command of the group in Chechnya, how many were removed as incapable of performing combat missions, history is silent. But judging by the losses that we suffered as a result of mediocre actions, probably every second.
    I will refer to the memoirs of General Kazantsev, commander of the North Caucasian District, the hero of Russia. Both sons fought at him, one was seriously wounded, the second died. When he understood the circumstances of his son’s death, he found out that the regiment commander was presented for dismissal from the army as having failed to command, but he was given a chance to retire on the condition that he would go to war in Chechnya. And he naturally failed in the war, killed people.
    With a longing I look at such a selection of personnel and remember the book "If not for the generals." Not everything is true in it, but many things are relevant
  7. NEOZ
    NEOZ 12 November 2019 13: 56 New
    +1
    Why spread on American American propaganda?
    I definitely do not understand ... for what?
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 12 November 2019 16: 18 New
      -1
      You confused the authors of the propoganda 180 degrees
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 13 November 2019 10: 17 New
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        Quote: BlackMokona
        You confused the authors of the propoganda 180 degrees

        explain, I did not catch the meaning of your words.
        1. Blackmokona
          Blackmokona 13 November 2019 12: 34 New
          -1
          Here the propaganda as in the US Army is all bad.
    2. shtatsov
      shtatsov 12 November 2019 22: 13 New
      +1
      An experience. Maybe it’s worth something and learn from them!
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 13 November 2019 10: 21 New
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        Quote: shtatsov
        Experience.

        whose?
        Quote: shtatsov
        Maybe it’s worth something and learn from them!

        on what basis is the conclusion that we need to learn from them?
        maybe they show incredible success in battle?
        maybe US soldiers are superior to soldiers of other countries?
        why do you think we need to learn from them?
        1. shtatsov
          shtatsov 13 November 2019 10: 58 New
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          Are they all bad? The weakest army in the world? Around the mess? In our history, most often wars won not due to good organization and the best weapons, but due to the dedication of the Russian soldier.
          It may be worthwhile to do something to put less soldiers' heads in wars.
          1. NEOZ
            NEOZ 13 November 2019 11: 21 New
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            Quote: shtatsov
            Are they all bad?

            Of course not...
            but this question raises another question: "is the interlocutor competent?"
            Do you offer to learn from those who are not all bad? .... or why are you doing this?
            seriously .... I don’t understand why you are asking this question ... and what should we conclude by answering it ....
            Quote: shtatsov
            The weakest army in the world?

            see above.
            Do you offer to study with not the weakest army? ...
            Quote: shtatsov
            Around the mess?

            see above
            Quote: shtatsov
            In our history, most often wars won not due to good organization and the best weapons, but due to the dedication of the Russian soldier.

            this is a very controversial statement ... well, a very controversial ...
            give examples of poor organization, poor weapons and the dedication of soldiers.
            Quote: shtatsov
            It may be worthwhile to do something to put less soldiers' heads in wars.

            give examples of a warrior where, in your opinion, a lot of soldiers were put.
            1. shtatsov
              shtatsov 13 November 2019 13: 48 New
              0
              Russian-Japanese 1905 lost! Due to poor organization, supply and other mess including! In the Great Patriotic War there were many examples when they fought not by skill, but by number.
              It’s still a pleasure to argue with you!)) If you always consider yourself right, you don’t assume that you can be mistaken in anything, and you have nothing to learn from others. That is your right to think so! I do not dare to impose my opinion!
              1. NEOZ
                NEOZ 13 November 2019 14: 21 New
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                Quote: shtatsov
                I do not dare to impose my opinion!

                so you justify your opinion, give facts and arguments ...
                Quote: shtatsov
                Russian-Japanese 1905 lost! Due to poor organization, supply and other mess including!

                that in this war it didn’t work out “due to the dedication of the Russian soldier”, and why? we "We in our history more often than not won the war not due to good organization and the best weapons, but due to the dedication of the Russian soldier" or not?
                Quote: shtatsov
                In the Great Patriotic War there were many examples when they fought not by skill, but by number.

                Yes? but according to the memoirs of Halder, Manstein and Guderian you can’t say so ...
                Halder on the 2nd week of the war notes in his diary "the first serious adversary"
                on the 2nd week of the war, Guderian notes that "conducting hostilities outside the charter is unacceptable! A German soldier cannot afford the military liberties that were allowed in France and Poland"
                so I draw your attention to the ratio of the dead soldiers of the Wehrmacht and the Red Army (1: 1,1).
                Quote: shtatsov
                It’s still a pleasure to argue with you!))

                Well, the opponent should not be fun ...
                Quote: shtatsov
                If you always consider yourself right, do not admit that you can be mistaken in something

                yes, I always consider myself right .. like you ... and other people !!!
                I admit that I could be wrong! but in order to admit a mistake, I need to prove it on the facts and arguments (the truth of the statement).
  8. eklmn
    eklmn 16 November 2019 02: 14 New
    0
    There are 3 academies in the USA - Army, Air Force and Marine. The Maritime Academy is located in Annapolis, the capital of Baltimore. By the way, on summer days the entrance to the Academy is open to all comers and many families spend a day off there.
    But I'm not talking about that. About 25 years ago, in the 3rd year, they spotted a group of cadets, 20-25 people who were copied during the exam. And these are future naval officers, “blue blood”! The scandal was huge. They solved the problem simply - they drove out the entire course from the academy, about 150 people. And all those expelled had to pay for their education. And further. The officers have, of course, an age limit for their rank, but there is still a weight limit and a standard for physical training. Moreover, the standard is not separately surrendered, but with a lower composition, so that everyone can clearly see it.