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The dates of the first flight of the Indian fifth-generation fighter AMCA

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Tejas light combat aircraft in the Mark-1A and Mark-2 variants will become the basis of the Indian Air Force in the next decade as the vehicles currently in service are decommissioned. They will become an intermediate link between the decommissioned models and their own fifth-generation Indian fighter, which received the code name Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft - AMCA. About this newspaper The Hindu.


The fifth-generation Indian fighter AMCA, designed by the Aircraft Development Agency with the support of the Air Force, is initially planning to equip two General Electric-414 engines. It is expected that the newest aircraft will make its first flight in the 2032 year. The dates of the first flight tests are spoken in the Indian Air Force.

Indian Air Force not interested in importing FGFA, we must develop it ourselves

- such an opinion was voiced by the chief of staff of the country's air force Rakesh Kumar Singh Bhadauria. Moreover, this is a repeated statement of Rakesh Bhadauria on this issue.

The chief of staff added that India cannot depend on imports because it is too expensive.

FGFA or Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft is the now suspended joint project of the Russian Sukhoi Corporation and the Indian Hindustan Aeronautics Limited to create a fifth-generation fighter based on the PAK FA (Su-57).

Earlier it was reported that the fifth-generation fighter under the AMCA program can enter the Indian Air Force no earlier than 2035 of the year. If the first flight will be made in 2032, then the timing of adoption after the first flight tests, given the Indian characteristics, will be extremely tight.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 11 November 2019 16: 01
    +10
    Did Shiva tell them?
    1. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 11 November 2019 16: 20
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Did Shiva tell them?

      Maybe Buddha?
      1. orionvitt
        orionvitt 12 November 2019 00: 25
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Chistyakov
        Maybe Buddha?

        Most likely, Khoja Nasredin. Fifteen years later, either the program will die, or the Minister of Defense of India, or the chief of staff of the Air Force, or someone else. Or maybe that's it.
    2. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 17: 37
      +4
      And they could get into service already in 2021-2022 ...
      1. Alexander Petrov1
        Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 17: 55
        +2
        And they could get into service already in 2020-2021, if we had not been thrown and left the mutually beneficial joint project ...
      2. ltc35
        ltc35 11 November 2019 22: 02
        +2
        I thought: the Indians will have their fifth generation aircraft in 2032. ETOGES then among the Amers, among us and the Chinese, which generation will already be on the wing? Sixth, seventh, or ... Maybe military aviation in its present form will not be anymore?
        1. Alexander Petrov1
          Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 22: 23
          +3
          As the military says, the 6th generation is already an UAV with artificial intelligence, almost a robot.
        2. SAG
          SAG 12 November 2019 02: 37
          +1
          Quote: ltc35
          I thought: the Indians will have their fifth generation aircraft in 2032.

          The dates are correct, but there is a typo instead of 1 printed 0 yes
          And when he goes into the series, they have five generations of smart-assists will be replaced for sure))
      3. Mark9103
        Mark9103 12 November 2019 00: 44
        0
        Quote: Alexander Petrov1
        And they could get into service already in 2021-2022 ...

        We will begin to receive the first production samples only in the 20th, and we promise the entire contract for 76 units. only by 2028 to fulfill. Engines of the 2nd stage will begin to be installed in 2022-2023, i.e. half will be with the old engines from su27 (improved by itself). What Hindus if we need so much time for the production of such scanty amounts of Su57 for our own Air Force. And 2028 is the best option, if I’m not mistaken, initially the Su57 was supposed to go into service in 2015.
        1. Alexander Petrov1
          Alexander Petrov1 12 November 2019 01: 02
          +1
          In principle, the SU-57 and with old engines flies better than even the F-22, which incidentally flies also in engines of the 80s and nothing is considered the 5th generation, just the Hindus started not to hobble a lot and eventually punished themselves and remained in front of their cool neighbor China with naked booty, well, not very smart for one of the oldest civilizations on planet Earth ...
          1. Mark9103
            Mark9103 12 November 2019 16: 55
            0
            I agree, al31 / 41 are good engines for LTE, in my opinion on new ones there should be improved characteristics of visibility. And the Hindus are for sure, I don’t know what place they were going to do the 5th generation if they have been unable to finish Tejas for decades.
    3. svp67
      svp67 11 November 2019 19: 37
      +4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Did Shiva tell them?

      The many-armed Shiva this "miracle" will "sculpt" out of what was ... "But" they had "a little, so that soon they will either go to us or to the Americans
    4. Pereira
      Pereira 11 November 2019 20: 18
      +6
      Hindus know a lot about vimanas. They will succeed.

    5. Alexander Petrov1
      Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 22: 37
      0
      There is no Shiva - Krishna ... laughing
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 16: 04
    +9
    Let's see ... Will it fly or dance.
    1. cniza
      cniza 11 November 2019 16: 43
      +8
      Will sing for sure. lol
  3. Sanichsan
    Sanichsan 11 November 2019 16: 35
    +8
    How many decades have they been building their Arjun tank? and they never built anything suitable. request but with a plane that’s a completely different matter! wassat
    1. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 11 November 2019 18: 40
      +6
      And how fast are they "tejasa" finishing? It is not clear what the Indian Marshal's optimism is based on. Twenty years cannot make a sufficiently simple airplane, but now they want to make a much more complex apparatus in ten years.
      1. Herman 4223
        Herman 4223 11 November 2019 21: 24
        +1
        If twenty, thirty stuck back in 2011. The first version went into the series but it is outdated. 40 cars ordered. The second version will be ready for the series by 2023.
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 11 November 2019 22: 02
          +2
          I didn’t mean the development from the very beginning, but when he flew and he began to "bring to mind."
          1. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 12 November 2019 09: 56
            0
            If I am not mistaken, the first flight in the early 2000s was. So the fact is that this new development of their first flight has not yet completed. And judging by what is written in the article, it is planned only in 2032.
            1. TermNachTer
              TermNachTer 12 November 2019 17: 33
              +2
              Well, so I am about the same. The first time "tejas" took off somewhere in the early 00s, and for twenty years it has been "finished and finished", but so far it has not come out. That is why I do not understand the optimism of the Indian air marshals regarding their 5th generation airplane. Because, it is one thing to "blind" an airplane, according to already known and proven technologies, and quite another to a largely new machine.
              1. Herman 4223
                Herman 4223 13 November 2019 15: 05
                0
                Their optimism is due to the fact that Pakistan will not have anything more modern by that time. But if China does not make one byaku of course and does not sell them something more modern.
                1. TermNachTer
                  TermNachTer 13 November 2019 17: 22
                  +2
                  It is clear that they will crush Pakistan with what they now have, unless of course atomic bombs come. But after all, China will not just watch the pressure of its long-standing and trusted ally, which means that options are possible.
  4. cniza
    cniza 11 November 2019 16: 43
    +5
    Indian Air Force not interested in importing FGFA, we must develop it ourselves


    So the flag is in your hands who is against it.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 11 November 2019 16: 51
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Indian Air Force not interested in importing FGFA, we must develop it ourselves


      So the flag is in your hands who is against it.

      It is interesting that ours were left to them on this project, after the Brahmins rebelled?
      1. cniza
        cniza 11 November 2019 16: 53
        +4
        It’s hard to guess, time will tell what they are capable of.
        1. knn54
          knn54 11 November 2019 17: 43
          +1
          Time shows that the Indians are returning
          1. cniza
            cniza 11 November 2019 17: 50
            +4
            This is their way of trading - to wander around.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 11 November 2019 18: 26
          0
          Well .. another 12 years ahead of the first flight test, maybe they will.
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 11 November 2019 18: 55
            +2
            Quote: alexmach
            Well .. another 12 years ahead of the first flight test, maybe they will.

            Undoubtedly, they will only open the Vaimanika Shastra and here it is!
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 11 November 2019 18: 56
              0
              There is still such a thing. Maybe they came to the conclusion that this same fifth-generation airplane they don’t necessarily need right now ..
  5. Sars
    Sars 11 November 2019 16: 51
    +1
    Yeshe Kumara and duria, and will receive a sixth generation aircraft.
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 11 November 2019 16: 53
    +1
    Well. Tighten, restore lost technology and go!
  7. av58
    av58 11 November 2019 17: 00
    +7
    When will the 1st Indian plane of the 5th generation fly? Knowing the Indians firsthand, I answer: never.
    That is, the money will be allocated, the plans have been drawn up, the work has been done, something is being blinded, the flight of the received airplane will most likely take place by the announced date, and this will all end there. Forever, and from the word "forever". Then they will modernize, improve, change, and end in the same way as the development of the Indian LIGHT TRAINING aircraft and the same light helicopter ended. The Indian tank, by the way, went to the same place where Indian planes and helicopters flew.
    The Indians are great at making generic drugs and working as programmers, which is better for them to do.
    1. Alexey LK
      Alexey LK 11 November 2019 21: 09
      +3
      Indian great programmers? It was just that someone had to be instructed to solve the "Y2K problem" - to shovel millions of lines of code and make corrections like replace "02" with "2002" - at the lowest possible cost. This is how the legend was born that "India has great programmers". There are some, of course, given the size of the population and the fluency of many English since childhood, but no more.
  8. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 11 November 2019 17: 07
    +4
    There is a typo - it should be "in 2132".
  9. Sergei 23
    Sergei 23 11 November 2019 17: 31
    +1
    Goals are set. Dates are defined. Loud statements are made. Everything is like everywhere.
  10. Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 11 November 2019 17: 36
    +1
    Remarkably, China promises a 2035th generation fighter by 6. Its development is already in full swing. The plane becomes morally obsolete by the time of its appearance. So why not buy some modern planes before this miracle goes into production?
  11. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 11 November 2019 18: 01
    +3
    Do not pull. They will have to cooperate with someone. Or with Russia, or join the Anglo-Italian project. Or go with the French.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 11 November 2019 21: 32
      0
      The engines they planned to put American, the same as on the Tajes. And so if you think before the thirty-second year of time, the carriage is blinded.
    2. Avior
      Avior 12 November 2019 01: 13
      0
      I suspect that this will be explicitly or implicitly
  12. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 11 November 2019 19: 48
    +2
    The optimism of India is certainly astounding. They with the fourth generation still somehow do not have a problem with the engines, but they want to fly in the 10th generation in 5 years ?!

    They made stupidity out of a joint project with us, and they will spend money many times more and as a result, it is unlikely that they will do anything sensible.
  13. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 11 November 2019 20: 38
    +6
    something like that they will have!
  14. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 12 November 2019 00: 23
    0
    Go ahead and with the song!))
  15. Cympak
    Cympak 12 November 2019 10: 05
    0
    Indians can say anything about their own 5th generation aircraft, but ...
    The fifth-generation Indian fighter AMCA, designed by the Aircraft Development Agency with the support of the Air Force, is initially planning to equip two General Electric-414 engines.

    Engines are a consumable resource on an airplane. The Americans will never transfer engine production technologies to the Indians (they will allow the maximum to be assembled from vehicle sets). Consequently, India will be "on the leash" of the United States. And they already passed this, but, apparently, began to forget