Putin urged not to repeat Soviet mistakes in the purchase of domestic equipment


The President of Russia chaired a meeting with cabinet ministers. One of the areas of the meeting under the president is the purchase of domestic equipment in various sectors of the economy, including high-tech.


According to Vladimir Putin, it is necessary to increase the percentage of purchased equipment of Russian production. At the same time, the head of state asked not to repeat the mistakes of the times of the Soviet Union.

The President noted that the purchase of domestic equipment should be carried out taking into account its competitiveness, and to buy Russian equipment only because it is Russian, but cannot withstand competition, it makes no sense.

From the statement of the head of state:

Purchased domestic equipment must be fully competitive. No need to repeat what happened in a closed Soviet economy. The equipment must meet customer requirements, have a reliable after-sales and warranty service system.

Once again, the president called for transparency in procurement. According to Vladimir Putin, cash flow should be monitored at all levels.

Putin:

Plans to purchase more than 4700 positions of machinery and equipment. Once again I want to repeat. It is important to ensure that these purchases are based primarily on domestic producers, so that the colossal budget funds allocated for these purposes work precisely within the country, on the development of the Russian economy, and provide an additional opportunity to create high-quality, qualified, well-paid jobs in our cities , in the regions as a whole, for the qualitative growth of high-tech industries, for business development and, very importantly, the diversification of the defense industry.

At the same time, the head of state, touching upon the issue of transparency of public procurement, recalled the situation with the Vostochny spaceport. Vladimir Putin noted that the project was initially supposed to be nationwide and therefore completely transparent, but in the end unscrupulous businessmen profit from the project.

Putin:

No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

According to the president, he intends to ask the prosecutor's office, the investigating authorities and the control department of the president to establish proper control.
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  1. cniza 11 November 2019 14: 30 New
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    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison.


    Or maybe they’re not planting them?
    1. Svarog 11 November 2019 14: 38 New
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      Quote: cniza
      No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison.


      Or maybe they’re not planting them?

      They steal not hundreds of millions, but hundreds of billions .. and they put performers and even those who are not acceptable ..
      Putin called

      He has been calling for 20 years .. but no one hears it and everyone is happy with everything .. He calls on the housing and communal services to deal with gas prices .. with the money back from their offshore companies .. the list of calls is long .. Maybe it's time for retirement? People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously.
      1. APES 11 November 2019 14: 45 New
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        People need a strong leader


        forget :) 2024 - the struggle has begun - not for life, but for death ... - 4 groups - who won we will learn in 2024 - and they do not care about all of us - there will be a new redistribution
        1. Stalllker 11 November 2019 16: 14 New
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          The struggle for power is always a redistribution
          1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 19: 56 New
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            Quote: Stalllker
            The struggle for power is always a redistribution

            Only in some cases it is divided in a narrow circle, and in others, taking into account the interests of the entire population. That’s the whole difference.
            According to the article -
            The President noted that the purchase of domestic equipment should be carried out taking into account its competitiveness, and to buy Russian equipment only because it is Russian, but cannot withstand competition, it makes no sense.
            Against the background of this phrase, it inspired the past, when as part of the implementation of long-term projects a whole network of allies was created. An example is the construction of AvtoVAZ. In parallel with the construction of the plant, factories for the production of auto parts were built.
            Putin’s words seem to be correct, but streamlined, evasive, it’s only about buying equipment, while it needs to be produced. And it doesn’t matter that at first it will be more expensive than imported (this can be compensated by duties), it is important that import-independent full-cycle production will work in our territory. Take, for example, Britain in the 40s — they quickly caught up with the Germans in the production of aircraft, arranging their production at automobile plants. The same VAZ could be re-qualified for the production of armored vehicles within two weeks.
            And what can now be adjusted at our screwdriver plants?
            1. cniza 11 November 2019 20: 53 New
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              There is a lot of truth in your words and a way out of this situation is not yet visible.
            2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 36 New
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              And who was going to fight with whom? Ours and ours? Who are ours and who are not ours? Are our Americans? No? And my children live there! Germany? I have relatives there! Against whom to fight? Against relatives? Well, after all, they fought in WWI! We fought. Will this happen again? I doubt it. Many today have already been abroad and many have overseas things. Under what slogans will the war be? Are we against Mercedes, BMW and Bavarian beer with sausages? Are we for the basins Muscovites and Cossacks? What are we going against or are we going to fight? Can it be explained at the household, clothing level? Are we against iPhones and computers? But we write, Thanks to the grandfather for the Victory! Yes, we are writing. Yes, and on foreign cars, which is read generally anti-Russian. Thank you grandfather for the victory over the USSR and Russia !? Just get fucked up! I understand this inscription on the glass of Moskvich or KrAZ. But on the glass of a foreign car!
              1. MstislavHrabr 12 November 2019 00: 40 New
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                They have “Mercedes, BMW and Bavarian beer with sausages,” and we have “basins, Muscovites and Zaporozhets” ... Yes, you are a patriot ... The first satellite, the first astronaut, is this not about us? Developed nuclear energy is also not about us?
                In your opinion, it turns out that the NATO bloc has not moved to our borders, but we are towards it. And we are all so terribly aggressive ... It reminds me of some "wonderful" logic ...
                And yet, you took the nickname “Soviet Union”, but to understand that it doesn’t matter what it says “Thanks to my grandfather for the Victory!” , the main thing is that the one who wrote this is exactly what he thought, and you can’t hang noodles on our ears ... Who are you working for a son ?!
                1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 01: 35 New
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                  Read my comment again granddaughter. Maybe it will? hi
            3. Harry.km 12 November 2019 01: 45 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              streamlined evasive



              Colleagues! The implementation of the planned targets plays an important role in shaping the existing financial and administrative conditions; on the other hand, the scope and place of staff training require us to analyze further areas of development. Everyday practice shows that the further development of various forms of activity allows us to fulfill important tasks in developing directions of progressive development. Higher-order ideological considerations, as well as consultation with a wide asset, is a process of introducing and modernizing forms of development ...
            4. sniperino 12 November 2019 10: 47 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Putin’s words seem to be correct, but streamlined, evasive, it’s only about buying equipment, while it needs to be produced.
              Do not compose. Words are addressed not only to Moscow Region, but also to domestic manufacturers so that they keep the quality of their products at the level and do not artificially raise prices, hoping that Moscow Region will still buy from them.
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And what can now be adjusted at our screwdriver plants?
              What was created over several decades and was destroyed in the 90s cannot be restored so easily in 20 years. It won’t work right away without a magic wand, but import substitution is primarily in the military-industrial complex.
              1. Ingvar 72 12 November 2019 20: 45 New
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                Quote: sniperino
                What was created over several decades and was destroyed in the 90s cannot be restored so easily in 20 years.

                A controlling stake in AvtoVAZ was sold to the French with the direct participation of GDP and DAM. Skilled workers are fired by the thousands. AvtoVAZ aggregate closed three years ago, more than 2000 people were unemployed. Is it the 90s?
                1. sniperino 12 November 2019 20: 59 New
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                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  A controlling stake in AvtoVAZ was sold to the French ... more than 2000 people were unemployed.
                  It was necessary to dismiss 50 000 workers and not sell KP?
                  1. Ingvar 72 12 November 2019 21: 07 New
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                    Quote: sniperino
                    It was necessary to dismiss 50 000 workers and not sell KP?
                    You are not aware that AvtoVAZ made a profit before the sale to the French? And at the same time still contained a bunch of objects of social and cultural life? At the same time without making reductions?
                    Yes, the plant had tax debts, but it paid them off. Before the sale of KP they were written off. And they allocated a free subsidy for the purchase of the Renault Logan platform (now it is Largus). And after that, a year later, the company was sold to the French without “tails”.
                    The French, by the way, "shook off" the entire social welfare, and carried out reductions in three stages. More than 30000 thousand people. And they continue to cut further, making banal "screwdriver" out of independent production. hi
                    1. sniperino 12 November 2019 21: 12 New
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                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      made reductions in three stages. More than 30000 thousand people. And continue to cut further
                      I haven’t heard about it. And what is happening in the city, how can you characterize the situation? Detroit?
                      1. Ingvar 72 12 November 2019 22: 24 New
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                        Quote: sniperino
                        And what is happening in the city, how can you characterize the situation? Detroit?

                        Many are leaving. With work tight. request
                  2. Mordvin 3 12 November 2019 21: 21 New
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                    Quote: sniperino
                    It was necessary to dismiss 50 000 workers and not sell KP?

                    Somehow in the USA Harley-Davidson was bent. As far as I remember, they were given an interest-free loan and banned the import of motorcycles for 5 years.
                    1. sniperino 12 November 2019 21: 43 New
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                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      interest-free loan and banned the import of motorcycles
                      It is easier for US banks to issue interest-free loans, and giving Harley or VAZ - do not blame them - incomparable risks. About the ban on the import of cars ... I will not, because not a motorist, but a cyclist.
                      1. Mordvin 3 12 November 2019 21: 50 New
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                        Quote: sniperino
                        U.S. banks give interest-free loans easier

                        Credit was given to them not by banks, but by the government, through banks, as I recall. You will not find this info on the Internet, I read about it in the middle of 80's.
                        Quote: sniperino
                        and giving Harley or VAZ - do not blame me - incomparable risks.

                        This is why? I correctly understood that you lowered our hard workers below the plinth?
                      2. sniperino 12 November 2019 21: 55 New
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                        Quote: mordvin xnumx
                        Did I understand correctly that you lowered our hard workers below the baseboard?
                        You misunderstood. Just, there are fewer claims to hard workers than to managers. Production management has never been a strong point of a plant. And why did they sell Renault KP? Diversion, or what?
                      3. Mordvin 3 12 November 2019 22: 07 New
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                        Quote: sniperino
                        Production management has never been a strong point of a plant.

                        For almost thirty years now, economist lawyers have been graduating, and the West claps their hands to them. And, for me, so apart from the bullet between the eyes, they deserve nothing.
            5. smart ass 13 November 2019 08: 03 New
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              Perhaps this is production efficiency, because for the first time AvtoVAZ managed to get closer to foreign manufacturers, get a new grant or news. Even I began to consider buying West, all my life I went to foreign cars
    2. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 16: 47 New
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      Quote: APES
      - 4 groups - we will find out who won, and they do not care about all of us - there will be a new redistribution

      All these groups are fictitious apeshki.
    3. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 24 New
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      Why is the 24th year? This year, Putin turned 67. Civil servants seem to have an age limit of 70 years. Maybe in the year 21-22? Well, it's like looking at the law. And if you make a move with a horse? It is possible until the 24th, but it is possible earlier. Who is the applicant or protege? The choice of clans is not great. siloviki, raw materials, merchants, industrialists, farmers, bankers. Everyone has leverage. Merchants can rock the situation. In coups, the military take power. The military are loyal to Putin and he is favorable to them. And the opinion of the people? What about the election? Who is nominated for the election? There will probably be a homeless person, a journalist, a deputy, an oligarch, an official. A homeless person will not ride. Which he himself will make such a country. The deputy, like the journalist, will not work either. The real economic experience is zero, and the chatter is above the roof. The oligarchs already had results too. The officials remain. What kind? Must advance that where the maximum result in the work. And where is our maximum? Probably only in Moscow. Therefore, there will be no redistribution. There will be a succession.
  2. asv363 11 November 2019 14: 52 New
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    Quote: Svarog
    Maybe it's time to retire? People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously.

    Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?
    1. Svarog 11 November 2019 14: 56 New
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      Quote: asv363
      Quote: Svarog
      Maybe it's time to retire? People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously.

      Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?

      They don’t allow them to turn around in political orbit and show themselves to anyone .. The guarantor closed everyone with his naked torso, either covered with a crane or an amphora .. In general, first of all, it should be a socialist, Platoshkin (president) comes to the fore for me. , Grudinin (prime minister).
      1. Leshy1975 11 November 2019 15: 41 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: asv363
        Quote: Svarog
        Maybe it's time to retire? People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously.

        Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?

        They don’t allow them to turn around in political orbit and show themselves to anyone .. The guarantor closed everyone with his naked torso, either covered with a crane or an amphora .. In general, first of all, it should be a socialist, Platoshkin (president) comes to the fore for me. , Grudinin (prime minister).

        Vladimir, as a rule, always agree with you. hi But in this case, I have to disagree. Regarding Platoshkin, I definitely disagree. I will explain why. He says that everything is correct (in my opinion, too). But here you are. When there were rallies against the possible transfer of the Kuril Islands and he was going to take part, he arranged his participation with different requirements: so that there wouldn’t be any speakers who would not personally criticize Putin. As a result, he did not take part.
        I’ve taken all this from Strelkov’s blog. And no matter who relates to Strelkov, it is hard to blame him for lying.
        So, in my personal opinion, Platoshkin is the upcoming shift of Zyuganov (Zyuganov No. 2). A person who is able to chat and drain any protest. The top of the Communist Party fell under the AP completely. Are there people in the Communist Party that can lead, lead, organize? Yes there is, for example, the Ulyanovsk branch of the party. But they will be able to lead the party only at the beginning of strong turbulence in the country. In all other cases, they will not be allowed, even by force. According to prof. V.D. Nightingale, plans are being developed for mass protests to isolate leaders. This including applies to the regional leaders of the Communist Party, the central office will not be affected.

        Which is not surprising, observing how the Communist Party behaves under the leadership of Zyuganov. These are my thoughts about Platoshkin. And Grudinin as a prime minister? Quite, why not, I think that against Medvedev, not an example is better. With a trial period, you can definitely assign. At least his speeches on the topic of economics in state. Duma were very reasonable and topical. All problems grew. He knows economics from personal experience, and not just from books. hi
        1. Svarog 11 November 2019 15: 49 New
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          So, in my personal opinion, Platoshkin is the upcoming shift of Zyuganov (Zyuganov No. 2).

          Yes, anything is possible. But how to check a person in action, if he has no opportunity to act?
          The top of the Communist Party fell under the AP completely. Are there people in the Communist Party that can lead, lead, organize?

          Eh .. I agree.
          hi
        2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 47 New
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          Replace old Zyuganov with old Platoshkin? I doubt it. If you change, then forty years. And so I like Platoshkin and Grudinin. Normal and right things in my opinion say. What are they doing? Just talking? What is Putin doing? Just talking? Says both Putin and Platoshkin. One has power, the other does not. I don’t like Putin’s words, but Platoshkin says everything is true. And who should I believe? Of course Platoshkin! Yes, and Putin’s ideas of privatization are already sick of it. All in the interest of capital. Tired of it. I am not an oligarch and I do not need privatization. And let the oligarchs vote for Putin.
      2. Xnumx vis 11 November 2019 15: 44 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        the first plan for me is Platoshkin (president), Grudinin (prime minister)

        Platoshkin maybe .. Sternum in the trash!
        1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 16: 07 New
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          Just as it came to determining the leader of the Communists, disagreements started ... they don’t have an ideological leader now, they are only self-PR managers on the horizon, and they are good under Putin ... and there’s no money and responsibility ... Fortunately, Putin allows them to to worry tongue
          Well, where are your Ulyanovs and Dzhugashvili, for whom you are ready to vote?
          1. Leshy1975 11 November 2019 16: 25 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            Just as it came to determining the leader of the Communists, disagreements started ... they don’t have an ideological leader now, they are only self-PR managers on the horizon, and they are good under Putin ... and there’s no money and responsibility ... Fortunately, Putin allows them to to worry tongue
            Well, where are your Ulyanovs and Dzhugashvili, for whom you are ready to vote?

            Not yet among the people, have not yet advanced. Ulyanov Vladimir (Alexander Ulyanov certainly knew), and even more so Dzhugashvili, not many knew in the country until 1917, and even if you do not take into account the gendarmerie, so Dzhugashvili almost no one knew. But everyone knew many other statesmen and politicians, some of them even sat in the state assembly. And where did those figures end up after 17?
            Do you really don’t understand how exactly the processes of changing power take place in a revolutionary way (only key figures change during coups)?
            1. Xnumx vis 11 November 2019 19: 06 New
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              As one of the Ulyanovs said - “We will go the other way!” ... And again - “We will destroy the whole world of violence
              To the ground, and then
              wassat
              We are ours, we will build a new world "This is the International as amended by the Bolsheviks .. Three verses of the" International "translated by A. Ya. Kotz with slight modifications composed the state anthem of the RSFSR (1918 — 1922), and after the formation of the Soviet Union (1922) ) he became the anthem of the USSR (1922-1944):
              .! And here is the full translation into Russian of the song "International"containing all six verses .- "Get up, branded with a curse,
              Hungry, oppressed people!
              Our mind is a hot crater
              Lava flows will flood the world.
              Knocking past shackles
              Slaves will rise and then
              The world will be changed at the core:
              Now nothing - we will become everything!
              The time of battle has come
              We all rally to battle.
              In the International
              The human race will merge!
              2.
              No one will give us deliverance:
              Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
              We will achieve liberation
              With his own hand.
              So that the thief returns to us everything that he took,
              So that the spirit of the prison is gone forever
              We will forge iron with heat,
              While the metal is still hot.
              3.
              Power is oppressive, the law is just a mask,
              Taxes stifle unbearable.
              No one rich pointer
              And you will not find rights among the poor.
              Pretty state right,
              Hear the Equality Testament:
              From now on, we have only the right,
              Equals have no laws!
              4.
              We reached the limit in self-interest
              Monarchs of coal, rail and ore.
              Their disgusting affair -
              Only oppress and rob Labor.
              We create all the capital
              That in the safes of scoundrels lie.
              Forward! Now it's time
              Demand back!
              5.
              Enough to give us a dope!
              Goodbye military drill!
              To the peoples - peace, war - to tyrants!
              Strike, soldier, time to go.
              When will the cannibals be ordered
              We all heroically kill -
              Then according to our generals
              Fly your own bullets!
              6.
              Workers, peasants, will
              Great Army of Labor.
              Earth is given for happiness to people
              Drive the drones away forever!
              Having drunk blood to the dump,
              The vulture is drunk, and the raven is full.
              Let’s get them gone
              Once again, the sun will shine on the world! ".............. And immediately I want to send all these Bolsheviks and rebels to the camps to dig ore, to forge iron ... It is advisable for life ... Tired of rYvolyutsYonEry !! wassat Loafers, loafers!
              1. sniperino 12 November 2019 23: 27 New
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                Quote: 30 vis
                full translation into Russian of the song "International"
                The first time I read it. For the performance of such a song, at least enter a separate article in the Criminal Code. belay
          2. New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 24 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            Well, where are your Ulyanovs ...

            what kind of Ulyanov are you waiting for - Vladimir or Alexander?
            1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 22: 29 New
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              One seed ... why would I wait for this shit? These are your gods .. you pray to them.
          3. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 55 New
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            And who should vote for? For the new Sasha Kerensky? Who was assigned to this role? Or have Kolchak been sent? Or maybe vote for Krasnov and Semyonov?
        2. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 20: 01 New
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          Quote: 30 vis
          Sternum in the trash can!

          Grudinin has done much more for people than Medvedev. wink
          1. Svarog 11 November 2019 21: 37 New
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            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: 30 vis
            Sternum in the trash can!

            Grudinin has done much more for people than Medvedev. wink

            But Medvedev, in my opinion, hasn’t done anything good for the people .. I can’t recall a single sensible initiative.
            1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 21: 42 New
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              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Grudinin has done much more for people than Medvedev

              Quote: Svarog
              But Medvedev in my opinion did nothing good for the people ..

              Correctly. That's why it turned out that

              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Grudinin has done much more for people than Medvedev

              "Svarog", if you were not there, you would have to come up with wink good laughing
        3. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 50 New
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          Wow how! Right in the trash can !? Why? Didn't steal billions? And those who have been assassinated in the presidency? Why are oligarchs better than Grudinin? So what are the Forbes list? And Grudinin is a rogue! So? Has this presidential qualification gone?
      3. hrych 11 November 2019 20: 26 New
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        Quote: Svarog
        Platoshkin (president), Grudinin (prime minister).

        A diplomat talking like a gopnik and a communist capitalist with gold in a Swiss bank wassat Your mind is fogged with a magic word - "communist". I see one successor - Gerasimov. This is a person of the level of Skobelev, Zhukov, Kutuzov ... We do not take Suvorov, he is the God of War.
      4. sniperino 12 November 2019 11: 09 New
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        One name a strong leader who was not allowed to show himself, at least have fun. And you know why? A strong leader shows himself, and does not wait until the conditions for self-expression are created for him. Who is being suppressed? Grudinin? Latifundist = strong statesman? This is to Petrosyan, for the state for this must become feudal. How is it suppressed? Do not carry on hands? Maybe he didn’t deserve it, he scammed something with bills ...
    2. RUSS 11 November 2019 15: 08 New
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      Quote: asv363
      Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?

      They will find it, and the zombie man with the great-propagandists will do his job, as before from the no-known Putin, they will also make the irreplaceable new one.
      1. Lexus 11 November 2019 18: 03 New
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        the zombie man with the great-propagandists will do his job, as before from the unknown Putin, as well as the new will be made indispensable.

        Already even a rehearsal was winked
        “The queen gave birth to the night
        Not a son, not a daughter;
        Not a mouse, not a frog,
        And to the unknown animal. ”

        A.S. Pushkin
      2. sniperino 12 November 2019 13: 05 New
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        Quote: RUSS
        the zombie man with the great-propagandists will do his job, as before from an unknown Putin
        You are so doomed to talk about it, as if you are giving up in front of a zombie hunter. Judging by the polarization of attitudes towards Putin on the forum, there are some different zombies, and everyone decides to unravel the contradictions between them or obey one way or another.
    3. Greenwood 11 November 2019 15: 09 New
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      Quote: asv363
      is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?
      And who was that in 1999? Is Putin really? Something tells me that it was not leadership qualities, charisma or oratory that helped him come to power.
      How do you like a leader:
      1. Lexus 11 November 2019 15: 34 New
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        How do you like a leader:

        It was foolish and naive to expect that the eternally drunk political “Papa Carlo” would turn out something stupid, rather than a chatty liar Pinocchio.
      2. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 23 New
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        We do not have the best yet.
        Well, not Platoshkin with Grudinin in fact.
      3. New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 26 New
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        How do you like a leader:

        so he did not carry simple suitcases, but golden ones ...
      4. sniperino 12 November 2019 13: 22 New
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        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: asv363
        is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?
        And who was that in 1999?
        For example, Grudinin then thought that it was Putin, and he acted as his confidant. Someone believed his political instinct. So what?
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      Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?


      there is such a person and you know him, but God forbid - this is the end of everything :)
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      Quote: Svarog
      Maybe it's time to retire? People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously.

      Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?



      Very simple question. Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev. When will the questions for a thousand begin?
      1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 18: 03 New
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        Do not guess. The Nedimon clan is almost cornered. So that any unexpected is possible, besides Dmitry Anatolich.
        1. Town Hall 11 November 2019 18: 13 New
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          Do you seriously think that in 2024 the national leader will go to play dominoes in the park?
        2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 57 New
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          And driven into a corner, Medvedev carried out a new pension reform !? Or did Putin spend it? And who then drove into a corner? belay
          1. AU Ivanov. 12 November 2019 00: 16 New
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            The first talk about the need to raise the retirement age began back in the Ryzhkov government, in the late 80s. Someone would still have to go for these unpopular measures. For the problems of the demographic plan. The team that is behind Medvedev has lost ground very much in the past year and a half, and this process continues, so Nedimon’s GDP successor can hardly be taken seriously.
            1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 01: 23 New
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              But why didn’t they raise their age in 1945? Or current losses exceeded losses in the Second World War? Another issue is the issue of technology. So did productivity fall after 1945? If there is no money for retirement, why is there money for officials' millionth salaries and business-class cars for officials? After all, budget money must be saved !? Or not? Found money to support the oligarchs. Is it serious or not serious to be President Medvedev? But it was already. So it can and more.
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                No, he will not be able to win the election even taking into account fraud (the level of fraud will be such that it could blow up the society), he can only be reassigned as the prime minister after the victory of the successor put forward, well, the people are indignant and the elections have already passed ... It is interesting why no one pays attention to the mustache of all Russia? This is a very convenient candidate for the Putin system, with the irreplaceable chairman of the State Council and the premiere. For a long time with the owner, he was aware of matters - why not an internship for a substitution? Well, they’ll pick up such candidates for an elective dancer, they’ll seem to be a great helmsman, then Dimon will be able to participate in dances, his level ... No, first you have to break the State Duma’s idyll, deprive the majority of the edrum to be able to somehow influence the decisions of the top This is the primary and foremost task of the socialist-communists.
                1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 14: 56 New
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                  If this version is realized, then the mustache will remain a talking head. And we will follow the path of Elbasy and C. Such a tricky jump to the side. It seems to be no, but yes.
              2. AU Ivanov. 12 November 2019 08: 26 New
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                In the 40s and 50s, a whole stratum of the people and a considerable one, namely the collective farmers did not receive pensions at all. Therefore, the state’s pension burden was small. And another question: how many officials receive millions of salaries? The vast majority of civil servants earn very modestly and do not have official cars.
                1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 15: 03 New
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                  Pensions were paid by cooperatives and collective farms. The same collective farmers also received in kind. Plus there was a personal farm. So it wasn’t so bad according to those realities. If today you do not pay pensions in the village, then there will be krants. There are no collective farms, no subsidiary plots. Our officials are sitting not only in the village and city councils. They still sit in state-owned companies. Judging by the estates of the local deputies, they also live well. About state level deputies, you can generally be silent.
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                    There are no officials in state-owned companies. Absolutely not. A manager of any level is not an official. The official is an employee of state authorities. And where did you get the idea that the salaries of state-owned companies are paid from the FIU?
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                    I never thought that officials were paid from the FIU. The question is why there is money for officials' salaries, but not enough for pensioners. Then it can change the situation. Pensions are paid from the budget, and salaries to officials from the fund of officials. Here people will pay money for management, and from them they will pay managers. Why not? For civil servants, I mean got excited by writing them to officials. Okay. Let officials and civil servants be separate. But the money for the maintenance of both those and those are. That is a mysterious question. There is no money, but they are. State money must be saved, but it is not saved. Strange as that. winked
  3. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 17: 38 New
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    Quote: asv363
    Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?

    Without changing the system, talking about personalities is a game.
    1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 18: 15 New
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      What will we change? On socialism? He, it seems, proved his failure.
      1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 18: 35 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        What will we change? On socialism? He, it seems, proved his failure.

        Insolvency was shown by people, not socialism. Socialism is still ahead, otherwise nothing.
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          If people are not ripe, why step on the same rake again?
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            If people are not ripe, why step on the same rake again?

            I don’t remember how many times I asked about this, but for some reason everyone is sure that it will be different now.
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        This is how socialism proved its failure? The Civilians defeated the interventionists. Defended in the Second World War better than capstrany. Cards were canceled before kapstran. What are the achievements of kapstran? In WWII, everything was handed over to Hitler quickly. In the 45th they quickly surrendered to the Americans. Under socialism, there were no crises. Although socialism was young and inexperienced. But the old capitalism was in a fever. Fever today. Where are the advantages of capitalism?
        1. AU Ivanov. 12 November 2019 00: 22 New
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          The standard of living proved. Someone said about the Union, I don’t remember: Upper Volta with missiles. Partly he was right. What is now left of the social system - Cuba and North Korea? These are states with extremely low living standards. China is building capitalism with a human face.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 01: 33 New
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            About Upper Volta is credited with Thatcher. Cuba and DPRK besieged countries. And the fact that they survived in the blockade is rather a merit of socialism. Capstran surrendered to Hitler very quickly. After the collapse of socialism, democracy came to the same Iraq and Libya. Where do they have a high standard of living? So do not talk about good capitalism. The same Japan and South Korea. Too much they work for a high standard of living. And the Japanese have poor apartments. South Koreans have two days off a month from a love of work of course. The fact that I looked on the internet about these countries proves rude exploitation and low living standards. More recently, they laughed at the Japanese shelters, and now we are dropping to this level.
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    Who, in your opinion, is currently a strong leader who will be respected and whose opinion they will listen to?


    The current governor of the Astrakhan region.
  • maden.usmanow 11 November 2019 14: 56 New
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    If you look. After all, the security forces steal. And they do not care about any calls.
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      Quote: maden.usmanow
      If you look. After all, the security forces steal. And they do not care about any calls.

      All in business.
    2. APES 11 November 2019 15: 12 New
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      [quote] After all, the security forces steal [quote]
      no, they do not steal - honor does not allow - they wring out - these are two different things :)
      and so, in Russia now there is a tendency to curtail any private initiative — the state closes all cash flows to itself — the budget — production — the budget — the state is coming. capitalism
    3. Xnumx vis 11 November 2019 19: 10 New
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      Quote: maden.usmanow
      If you look. After all, the security forces steal. And they do not care about any calls.

      Stealing thieves! But they are siloviki, or businessmen of a big difference, there is no difference! THE THIEVES!
  • Lexus 11 November 2019 15: 14 New
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    Vladimir hiэ
    They steal not hundreds of millions, but hundreds of billions .. and they put performers and even those who are not acceptable ..

    Hedgehog it’s clear that thief’s officials are easy to “pull the strings”, and they, fearing for “overpowering” and their own lousy skin, and pension reform are approved, the collapse of housing and communal services, medicine, education and everything else. Go joyfully organizing videos with the faces of the loyal overlords about how everything is fine, and that grateful citizens agree to die at work without waiting for their retirement, and are ready to starve to life, if only there were no debts on LC. All these calls for a long time in normal people cause only gagging and indignation.
  • Same lech 11 November 2019 15: 17 New
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    During the construction of the Vostochny Cosmodrome, about 11 billion rubles were stolen, of which only 3,5 billion rubles were returned to the budget. Press Secretary of the President of the Russian Federation Dmitry Peskov ... normally it’s only 11 billion.
  • Sling cutter 11 November 2019 16: 51 New
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    He has been calling for 20 years .. but no one hears and everyone is happy with everything ..

    Are you sure that all these calls are not a performance for a plebs?
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      Quote: Stroporez
      Are you sure that all these calls are not a performance for a plebs?

      it is a performance
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  • SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 23: 01 New
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    The phrase immediately pops up. He is either not in the know, or in proportion. For the leader of the country to be unaware or to be too small in proportion. Or another leader. Recall the 90s. Failure to comply with authority could cost a living. Is it really in this duet, the main Medvedev? Stirlitz thought for a moment. Why not? All unpopular decisions are made by Medvedev. Why? Because he makes decisions? Or do they play the roles of good and evil? Stirlitz thought again. A simple-looking situation creates many difficult questions. And if they are both puppets? Who is in charge then? Decisions of the main should be carried out implicitly. and failure to enforce decisions is punishable by others. Why is this not the case with Putin? Why is he asking, not ordering? Who makes the decisions? Who is the gray cardinal? Maybe our guide is a mole guide? The thought struck Stirlitz as incredible! But what if? Suddenly they are all long recruited and play a written game? Then in whose interests? The darkness of the night enveloped the darkness of Stirlitz's thoughts.
  • smart ass 13 November 2019 07: 56 New
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    What does it mean called ???? A well-built public procurement system should be working under the supervision of specialists.
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  • kjhg 11 November 2019 14: 49 New
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    The main problem is that those responsible for investigations and landings themselves should sit down first. And so I see the picture: how Putin's officials and friends, stealing billions, are fighting corruption. Thieves are responsible for the fight against theft, the most notorious liars promise to keep their word. Surrealism.
    According to the president, he intends to ask the prosecutor’s office, the investigating authorities and the control department of the president to establish proper control
    Twenty years talking about it. Twenty years! Yes, how much can you? Who is he holding us for? Openly laughs at us and insults.
    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 13 New
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      Come out with friends to the square.
      The main thing is not to forget the pots.
      Freedom to Bolivia!
      1. Gardamir 11 November 2019 15: 30 New
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        Come out with friends to the square.
        The main thing is not to forget the pots.
        Freedom to Bolivia!

        The site is strictly prohibited: c) flooding, comments not related to the topic of the article, the lack of commentary
        Flood (from incorrectly pronounced English flood - flooding, flooding) - messages in Internet forums and chat rooms, which occupy large volumes and do not carry any useful information. Normal flood messages - sending a large number of messages of the same type. Flood spreads as a result of excess free time, and with the aim of trolling - for example, out of a desire to annoy someone.
        1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 34 New
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          Your comrade expresses indignation - "well, how much they say can be tolerated." And it becomes very similar to famous characters. What I tell him about in an accessible form to him.
          On the topic of the article:
          it is recommended to every lover that he knows how to recommend putting himself in the place of the critic. To try. And something specifically to offer. Then at least it becomes clear what it is and what is in his head.
          One of them offers Platoshkin and Grudinin - and immediately everything is clear, no questions.
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            Platoshkin and Grudinin
            Alas, here I am forced to agree with you. I saw good criticism of Grudinin. "he’s a politician. Now he’s the chairman, then he went skiing." It remains to wait for the joker to come to power. The Joker is not a scary clown from American films. And the concept is from a card game, when an unknown card can become an ace.
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          Quote: Gardamir
          Gardamir Today, 15: 30

          +9
          Come out with friends to the square.
          The main thing is not to forget the pots.
          Freedom to Bolivia!

          The site is strictly prohibited: c) flooding, comments not related to the topic of the article, the lack of commentary
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          give the floor to the lawyer of the guarantor, he is trying so hard
  • Victor N 11 November 2019 15: 41 New
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    Isn't it scary to judge? "Do not judge and you will not be judged." For an unrighteous trial, demand will follow.
  • Nyrobsky 11 November 2019 15: 47 New
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    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison.


    Or maybe they’re not planting them?

    Or maybe it’s not the landings, but the state’s loyal attitude to the stealing bureaucrats?
    According to the president, he intends to ask the prosecutor's office, the investigating authorities and the control department of the president to establish proper control.
    Not control should be introduced, but the shooting and confiscation of property. If the state itself has created the conditions for massive and large-scale thefts, then it’s a sin not to take advantage of the large flock of people who are feeding on a budget pasture, and no one else, like them, will organize the “right” control that allows them to spend money on.
  • A man with a capital letter 11 November 2019 16: 15 New
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    Under Stalin, yes, heads flew first among the authorities. Therefore, the head of the fish was not rotten
  • Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 17: 48 New
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    Well, if in Russia it’s about 1 million rubles and that for $ 100 million it’s about 8-10 years, then what a scammer and a thief will not serve, if it would be like in the United States or the European Union from 20 years to life, then the suicides of officials I wouldn’t have found a higher education institution, it wouldn’t be worth the candle, it’s easier to go into an honest business and earn honest money, as they do in the United States and the European Union ...
  • Nadrub 11 November 2019 19: 38 New
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    The scheme is simple and effective ....
    He stole ten million dollars, for example, a sentence of eight years, in the zone there is a comfortable cell with furniture, a TV and a refrigerator in a separate area. It costs an average of $ 100-200 per day, total per year for a camera costs $ 40.000-70.000, 4-5 years is a maximum of $ 360.000 for serving, then UDO + $ 100.000 and that's it !!! Free! + Condition, after a few years the criminal record is automatically removed .... life is beautiful!
    1. Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 21: 47 New
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      Even it’s a shame for our Russia to read and hear this from the media - “General Director of the Ussuriysk Pacific Bridge Construction Company, which participated in the construction of the Vostochny cosmodrome, Viktor Grebnev was sentenced to five years in prison, 200 thousand fines for embezzlement over 400 million rubles. The decision was made by the Ussuriysky District Court "news of June 26, 2019 ...
  • SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 22: 36 New
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    Where are they planting? In armchairs or in prison?
    1. Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 22: 55 New
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      The more you steal, the higher the chair ... laughing
      1. SOVIET UNION 2 12 November 2019 00: 07 New
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        That sounds like the truth! Career! Of the bad guys choose the worst and move up! This is just a scribe!
  • NEXUS 11 November 2019 22: 57 New
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    Quote: cniza
    Or maybe they’re not planting them?

    Not only those BUT NOT THERE. Chubais, for example, was not planted at all where he should sit.
    1. Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 23: 04 New
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      From him one loss and damage to the country since the 90s, and he still sits in a high chair and receives multimillion-dollar salaries from our taxes, just some miracles ...
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    The honorary trampoline thrower of Russia Rogozin already answered the president on his twitter .. they used to steal it .. but now everything is fine .. well, in general, Putin doesn’t catch up with the situation ..
  • Civil 11 November 2019 14: 33 New
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    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

    Karl Marx in the book Capital
    Quote:
    "Provide capital with 10% profit, and the capital agrees to any use, at 20% it becomes lively, at 50% it is positively ready to break its head, at 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime for which it does not would venture to go, at least under pain of the gallows "
    1. Vladimir16 11 November 2019 14: 41 New
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      Provide capital ...

      What does Marx have to do with it?
      Budget money.
      Officials steal through contractors.

      There is no capital.
      The quote is good and the author is far from d_urak. laughing

      But the quote is out of place. wink
      1. K-612-O 11 November 2019 14: 51 New
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        It is mainly contractors who steal, remember the history of the salaries of workers.
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          Contractors do not steal. The customer steals, forcing the contractor to bring for signature fake acts of work performed for a share. And all the competition on the tanderes came down to setting a lower price for the tender and bringing a bigger and preferably green one to the office. The quality of the goods and services offered for the tender does not bother anyone, from the word at all, only the price and the percentage of the rollback are considered.
          1. Vladimir16 11 November 2019 16: 44 New
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            The state in the person of officials was removed from the work.
            The state in the person of a particular agency announces its “want” and says that I want to pay for it.
            Then someone has to create this “want to.”
            The state thinks that everything can be bought.
            But the state is a group of people-officials, each of which has its own share of power and its own share of responsibility.
            Those officials who allocate money do not have responsibility for the finished object "I want." Documents that confirm that this “want” is built are important to them.
            Building will not be the one who knows how to build this facility, but the one who wins the competition.
            It turns out that the state does not need an object, but simply overwhelms it with a desire to hold a competition.
            The competition will be won by those who know how to win competitions.
            The ability to build and the ability to win contests are two different skills.

            Because officials of different stripes are surprised, they say we paid! Where I really want to.
            What they created, they got it - the money has been spent, the competitions have been held, and I’ve built and are working on the “want” paper.
            And what works shitty, so you, gentlemen, officials, came up with a scheme that gives crap.
            The switchmen will certainly be found and punished. But....
            There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the mug is crooked.

            Here is such a "Marx" you understand. wink
          2. New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 31 New
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            Contractors do not steal. The customer steals ...

            steal ALL who got to the feeder
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              Quote: Silvestr
              steal ALL who got to the feeder

              I’ll tell everyone who is allowed to steal.
          3. Karen 11 November 2019 17: 52 New
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            Quote: Telur
            The quality of the goods and services offered for the tender does not bother anyone, from the word at all, only the price and the percentage of the rollback are considered.

            I recently called my old friend, a Moscow businessman ... so according to him, for more than two years now, he has not given kickbacks on winning tenders ...
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              so according to him, for more than two years now, he has not given kickbacks on winning tenders ...

              Last year we had a major overhaul. I know the contractor personally. Gave 400.000 p. for receiving a contract.
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        but you are full ... stolen money is nothing else. as the most reliable capital.
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      Remark. Marx in "Capital" quotes Thomas Joseph Dunning.
    3. Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 18: 06 New
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      An official or businessman for death will never commit a crime, “the sheepskin isn’t worth the hassle”, he is already a millionaire, Marx did not know the psychology of smart people, read Freud ...
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    I did not understand that the last bottom has already been broken? Somehow does not fit with the presidency - "intends ask prosecutors, investigative authorities and presidential control establish proper control. "
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      So no matter what you turn to him, with what question, the only answer is not my business. I am only a guarantor.
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        So no matter what you turn to him, with what question, the only answer is not my business. I am only a guarantor.

        From the recent: the population is falling, and again the Second World War and the 90s are to blame, it’s good that they don’t remember Civil.
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          give birth more)))
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        Quote: 210ox
        So no matter what you turn to him, with what question, the only answer is not my business. I am only a guarantor.

        Not really ... He always emphasized that there is no need for harsh repressions against the stolen ...
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          Of course, why harsh repressions, as the man wrote in open media for 2 bottles of vodka and a phone for 2 thousand, he served 7 years, and another man spent 5 million rubles for 4 years and now has his own business and drives a car for 3 million rubles and has 3 storey mansion (of course, everything is not written on it, otherwise everything will be taken away), here you have our ridiculous laws that all the Civilized World laughs at ...
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            here you have our funny laws that the whole Civilized World is laughing at ...

            Yes, laws are written for that, so that they go around - it’s more interesting to live ... :) I just didn’t add there: Putin doesn’t give up :) to the law ...
            1. Alexander Petrov1 11 November 2019 18: 38 New
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              Duck thieves in Russia for millions of dollars are not afraid of our laws, because it’s profitable, you will spend a short time and then live your whole life stolen, but they will close 40 years in the United States and the European Union, and Freud’s psychology ...
              1. Karen 11 November 2019 19: 03 New
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                As in Iran it is necessary - to chop off a hand ...
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                  As in Iran it is necessary - to chop off a hand ...

                  Feet begin to steal ..
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                  If you don’t chop off your head, you will steal with your second hand ...
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      I did not understand that the last bottom has already been broken? Somehow does not fit with the presidency - "intends ask prosecutors, investigative authorities and presidential control establish proper control. "

      Meanwhile, everything is clear, even very. Control is necessary, especially from the outside
      presidential control

      because once so many years they steal and are not afraid, then a famous quote will be in place:
      "this is the leg of the one who needs the leg"
      And how can one be without control ?! But if the investigating authorities, without understanding the system (which, incidentally, is unlikely), will really shake seriously. And first they will ask a legitimate question to Putin's confidant, Dmitry Olegovich: where are you, dear mister, where have you been looking all these years? And after a while embarrassed to knock on Putin’s office and they’ll say: there’s such a thing, D.O. ordered to transfer (hereinafter the quotation from cf the venue can not be changed): that he does not want to drag the clamp for the whole company, and it’s boring for him to take the “tower” alone.
      If faithful friends do not want to repel him, he will give all of them with a pure soul.

      And as if after that the following quote, from the same film, did not sound in high cabinet: Into the wolf!

      PS And so that such a fantastic story would not happen and you need control and control again. Why quarrel between your own? laughing
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    Rave. Purchased domestic equipment is by definition created for butting with bourgeois counterparts, how can it be much worse? Besides - and what does he offer as an alternative - to buy tanks and planes from America?
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      Well, in addition to tanks and planes, there is a bunch of everything that is creative, it’s even difficult to list. Now the state cannot build factories without attracting investors and private capital. To plant a thief, too, dumb-they-boomerang can fly into them. What do they do at the moment, I don’t know .. In order to maintain power, real action is needed, but for now ... blah. thanks ..
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    1. DEDPIHTO 11 November 2019 14: 47 New
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      Roll the barrel to the unprincipled, it’s just from the commies, in the full sense of the word .. winked Not to be confused with the communists.
      1. K-612-O 11 November 2019 14: 56 New
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        Well, the Communists under Khrushchev ended, so actually they are all like that. Except for non-partisans, those who are not crap
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          Quote: K-612-O
          Well, the Communists under Khrushchev ended, so actually they are all like that. Except for non-partisans, those who are not crap

          It will be useful here to recall the speech of Nikita Khrushchev, printed in Pravda on January 31, 1937: “The Trotskyite villains were preparing terrorist acts against our leaders. Scavenger stinks of vile and low geeks! These killers marked in the heart and brain of our party. They raised their hand against Comrade Stalin, they raised it against us all, against the working class, against the working people! Raising their hand against Comrade Stalin, they raised it against all the best that humanity has, because Stalin is hope, this is aspiration, it is the beacon of all progressive and progressive humanity. “Stalin is our banner! Stalin is our will! Stalin is our victory! ”

          Well, a little later, Khrushchev bent to the contrary, after reading out the "secret" report "On the cult of personality and its consequences."

          Both in the first case, and in the second - listeners and readers clapped their hands!
          1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 16 New
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            And what is characteristic - both of these real communists in both cases.
            Here, one above has already spoken for such by the name of Platoshkin. This is for the reconstruction of the USSR.
            1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 15: 32 New
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              It's funny another - minus historical facts !!!! This is unheard of! wassat
              So, the facts say - there were clapping speeches for Stalin, and speeches for exposing the Stalin personality cult ... as we understand it, only the Communists came to the party congress, we can say the best of the best ... clapped, even as clapped ..
              1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 38 New
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                By the way, this is our domestic misfortune. The argument is not for the sake of truth, but for the sake of victory. At any cost.
                Therefore, usually no problems are solved. Serious people are gathering for some sort of organizing committee, and they are beginning to struggle to prove to each other who is the most intelligent and quirky. Who will win. Of course, no one remembers the case.
                They carry such a game ....
                These are also jumping here for the same reason. Because believing that they really think so doesn’t allow me a small amount of faith in a reasonable person, his ability to get together, even in the most difficult moments, and make a really effective decision. Or at least offer.
                1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 15: 46 New
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                  My example with Khrushchev suggests one thing: On the website, they throated a throat for Putin a couple of years ago, and now they are pouring mud - this is such a national fun - but time will pass - they will begin to magnify again ...
                  This people is worthy of its rulers! Who is he (the people) offended by?
                  1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 22 New
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                    But he is not offended. He wants to snatch from the pie - quickly and a lot.
                    How many of them are so far just a people, then a normal person, against thieves, for justice and all that. Just becoming an official - as a substitute.
                    I repeat once again - all officials, all power, it is from the people. Not from another planet, or even from another country.
                    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 35 New
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                      Add more.
                      I’m 250% sure that all the screaming minusers sitting here all around, such fierce fighters against capitalism (for some reason only in Russia, again) once they get into officials, they will immediately start stealing until they burst.
                  2. Leshy1975 11 November 2019 16: 33 New
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                    Quote: Nasr
                    My example with Khrushchev suggests one thing: On the website, they throated a throat for Putin a couple of years ago, and now they are pouring mud - this is such a national fun - but time will pass - they will begin to magnify again ...
                    This people is worthy of its rulers! Who is he (the people) offended by?

                    Я против Putin and two years ago
                    throated
                    and not just me. What is again wrong with the people? We looked at Putin in action, at the results of his reign and opposed what was wrong? Or is the people such a collective woman Wang, should he foresee everything in advance?
                    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 37 New
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                      But what about? Of course it should.
                      Or if he can’t, then he must stop yelling about something in which he does not understand anything.
                      Well, is it usually arranged in life?
                      Moreover, that part of it that is only against it. In the USSR, too, were for, then against. Wrong, it happens. The price of the collapse of the empire and the death of millions.
                      And now why will it be right? Well, how is he going to make a mistake again?
                      1. Leshy1975 11 November 2019 16: 54 New
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                        Quote: Mestny
                        But what about? Of course it should.
                        Or if he can’t, then he must stop yelling about something in which he does not understand anything.
                        Well, is it usually arranged in life?
                        Moreover, that part of it that is only against it. In the USSR, too, were for, then against. Wrong, it happens. The price of the collapse of the empire and the death of millions.
                        And now why will it be right? Well, how is he going to make a mistake again?

                        Those. when the people are for Putin, then everything is right. And when AGAINST, is it wrong? Who decides what is right and what is not?
                        Or if
                        And now why will it be right? Well, how is he going to make a mistake again?

                        Maybe then right away, he should appoint Putin as the life emperor and let him pass the power by inheritance to whom he wants, since the people should not interfere in this process and there is only one harm from his participation.
                        Well, if so, who is the extreme king here? No one, so I will be the first. You do not worry, subject You, I already see, will be helpful. Well, in response, I do not intend to upset you. I promise not to flog at the stable (here at the stable, I do not promise laughing ).
                        In general, when I have a coronation and you personally should come to "kiss your hands" I will inform you additionally.

                        Article 3. of the Constitution of the Russian Federation6

                        1. The holder of sovereignty and the only the source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people.

                        2. The people exercise their power directly, as well as through public authorities and local authorities.

                        3. The highest direct expression of the power of the people are referendum and free elections.

                        4. No one can usurp power in the Russian Federation. Seizure of power or misappropriation of authority prosecuted by federal law.


                        PS Indeed, where does the people? If Putin should (who should only be interested) rule for life.
                  3. Svarog 11 November 2019 16: 40 New
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                    Quote: Nasr
                    My example with Khrushchev suggests one thing - On the site they used to gulp a throat for Putin a couple of years ago, and now they are pouring mud - this is such a national fun

                    Tearing a throat for him, because high oil prices created the illusion in society that the country was prospering, or at least growing .. and indeed, the well-being of citizens was growing .. And after the oil collapsed in price, people realized that they rubbed rubbish and cartoons, but in fact, nothing serious was done by the state machine ... Well, the pension reform finally approved the majority of the people that Putin was out of place .. After all, he repeatedly promised that there would be no revision retirement age while he is president t .. and then .. I ask you to relate to understanding .. So the people did not find this step ..
                    For this reason, there is no popular fun here, but there is a natural (belated) reaction of the population to criminal acts against their own citizens.
                    1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 23: 00 New
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                      I don’t give a damn about Putin! It’s you who are the slaves of the person ... And I am the first to criticize Putin and the shoigu on this site ... then I was also sculpted with minuses and angrily indignant, maybe you are from that category .. And now I want to fuck - they have seen with a delayed reaction ... Slurp to the fullest ...
                      but seeing whom you are pushing vertically to power today, instead of Putin, I better get up with Putin ... they wanted Stalin and executed bribes .. but just didn’t think that as soon as they shot the first one, and they shot for the case, wait for them to be shot and slander ... and in the present conditions of the presence of at least some kind of opposition - consider unexpected shootings of these will take place - it will suddenly turn out that they also stole folk funds .... and the witnesses will be evidence too ... and then the witnesses will have to go and the bloody bathhouse, and of devotees and zealous, such as in s - first of all.
                      1. KJIETyc 12 November 2019 05: 03 New
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                        The dragon is dead - long live the dragon. It's as old as the world. All honest are still poor and not in power.
              2. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 16: 13 New
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                They gave the command to clap - and here you have a storm of prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation.
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                  Quote: AU Ivanov.
                  They gave the command to clap - and here you have a storm of prolonged applause, turning into a standing ovation.

                  In your opinion, does this justify the communists? in my opinion this is slavery! Not?

                  After all, the USSR fell apart precisely because of this - no one disputed, everyone hoped for supreme power, they all know there, how we feel better !!!
                  1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 16: 20 New
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                    Why justify the Communists-from them all the trouble. Including the current ones.
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                      Quote: AU Ivanov.
                      Why justify the Communists-from them all the trouble. Including the current ones.

                      The funny thing is, the current Communists (the same comrades above), when they disagree with you, anyone is to blame, but not the Communists ...
                      well, let's end this discussion ..
          2. New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 35 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            Both in the first case, and in the second - listeners and readers clapped their hands!

            I happened to see in the Kremlin how they applauded Yeltsin. Then he saw the same people scolding him. Nothing new
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              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: Nasr
              Both in the first case, and in the second - listeners and readers clapped their hands!

              I happened to see in the Kremlin how they applauded Yeltsin. Then he saw the same people scolding him. Nothing new


              So I say - the Communists - slime! After all, those who clapped Yeltsin in the Kremlin (and Yeltsin himself) are communists. After all, the communists are not former !!! laughing By the way, and Putin from yours is a mockery of fate !!! I think he didn’t throw away the party ticket either !!! laughing Chubais, kudrina, gaydara from what party are they from? Huh? ok people littered?
              Well, how can he head the Communist Party-the main slime Kremlin? there is no answer to this, even among the Communists !!! wassat

              Ordinary party members - there are normal people, but they are zombified ... sorry for them ...
              1. New Year day 12 November 2019 10: 46 New
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                Quote: Nasr
                By the way, and Putin from yours is a mockery of fate !!!

                it is strange that you said that to me. It's like a mockery
                Quote: Nasr
                Ordinary party members - there are normal people,

                what am I trying to say to fierce anti-communists
          3. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 20: 21 New
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            Quote: Nasr
            Well, a little later, Khrushchev bent to the contrary, after reading out the "secret" report "On the cult of personality and its consequences."
            It was similar later.
            1. Nasrat 11 November 2019 22: 45 New
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              Naturally, they were all such communists !!! And you are well noticed !!!!
              1. Ingvar 72 12 November 2019 20: 47 New
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                Well they are all such communists !!!

                It's not about party affiliation, it's about people. Previously, these creatures even disguised themselves as good, now they don’t even hide.
    2. Corn 11 November 2019 15: 55 New
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      Commune must be planted all!
      “If God wants to punish someone, he destroys the mind.” Life was punished by these wretched people, it’s better just to stay away from the commies.
      This "infection" is from them!
      Not only was there no disaster on Russian land that brought more grief than Soviet Bolshevism.
  • Obi-Wan Kenobi 11 November 2019 14: 36 New
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    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

    The guarantor finally received his sight !!!
    Means "normal" sit. Therefore, there is no order so far.
    1. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 55 New
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      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      The guarantor finally received his sight !!!

      So thieves have crossed the permissible limit.
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        have crossed the allowable limit.
        That's where unacceptable lawlessness

        https://youtu.be/OyTmr3uzCK8
    2. RUSS 11 November 2019 15: 13 New
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      Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi
      The guarantor finally received his sight !!!

      The guarantor is more concerned about the Internet, as if under a cap, he just recently wished an analogue of Wikipedia to make the Russian Encyclopedia in electronic form, but not realizing that Wikipedia and the Encyclopedia are completely different things.
      1. Gardamir 11 November 2019 15: 36 New
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        completely different things
        You are wrong, both have the same word "pedia", which means the same thing.
  • Invoce 11 November 2019 14: 36 New
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    “No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

    They say, if you don’t enter the first round, don’t steal much! If you enter and don’t share, you sit down as Ulyukaev
    1. K-612-O 11 November 2019 14: 53 New
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      Well, Ulyukaev has been spinning in this circle since the time of Gaidar, he was just merged, he completely lost his fear.
      1. Invoce 11 November 2019 15: 41 New
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        People see that characters from the cage of the "irreplaceable" live beyond their means
        At a plenary meeting of the State Duma on November 5, a State Duma deputy from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Valery Rashkin, asked to check the activities of the head of the Senate income control committee Yuri Vorobyov, who, according to the parliamentarian, prevented the verification of former senator of the Karachay-Cherkess Republic Rauf Arashukov. Chairman of the Federation Council Valentina Matvienko called on the State Duma Commission on Ethics to evaluate the deputy’s statements. “At the beginning of the year, I initiated a check against Arashukov for a residence permit in the UAE. Vorobyev Sr. violated everything that is possible, so as not to be carried out and not public
  • askort154 11 November 2019 14: 38 New
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    Words words words. Sometimes convincing and even formidable.
    And the cat Vaska, calmly listens and eats, eats, eats. negative
    1. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 53 New
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      Quote: askort154
      Words words words. And the cat Vaska, calmly listens and eats, eats, eats

      And steals, steals, steals.
      1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 17 New
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        And you all envy, envy, envy.
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          Quote: Mestny
          And you all envy, envy, envy.

          Not if they were envious, then they wouldn’t sit on the site, but they stole, stole and stole.
      2. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 16: 16 New
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        Saltykov - Shchedrin was not mistaken:
        "If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia, I will answer: they drink and steal."
        So why are you surprised? Or envy?
        1. New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 41 New
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          Quote: AU Ivanov.
          Saltykov - Shchedrin was not mistaken:
          "If I fall asleep and wake up in a hundred years and they ask me what is happening in Russia, I will answer: they drink and steal."

          he also said something else
  • Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 14: 44 New
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    Little sit. Confiscation is also a little fiction.
    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 40 New
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      Andrei Nikolaevich, how about you personally? Do not steal?
      It is believed that you are free in vain.
      How do you like this turn? Is it clear what I mean?
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 16: 01 New
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        Mestny, envy you that I'm free? .. Don't be distracted. You may deserve parole .-)
        1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 06 New
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          I’m just at large, if that.
          I do not steal myself, and I do not blame others loudly and without evidence.
          I remember how any normal person - well, how can there be someone who will take me like that and blame me? What to do then?
          Is it clear what I'm talking about?
          Judging by your answer, it is not yet clear.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 16: 11 New
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            Personally, you and no one at all, I have not blamed. As you asked a question, so I answered you. I'm sorry ...
            1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 26 New
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              Personally, okay, no.
              And not me personally? Well, as a decent person, tell a decent person - well, do you have any legal grounds to say that they plant a little?
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 16: 35 New
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                But how can I find out which of us is the most decent one? .. ..-) And then, your questions are sheer populism. Imagine the facts, let's talk.
                1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 41 New
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                  So you started to wave your saber about "little plant."
                  I just didn’t say anything like that. Because I don’t know how things are going there.
                  Little or much is unknown.
                  So okay, this is your personal opinion, among friends. So no - publicly and loudly.
                  Well, I suggested that you introduce yourself on the opposite side - when someone suddenly starts screaming that you are a criminal, and you are "little put."
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 16: 50 New
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                    Do not distort. I did not wave a saber. If I say, I know what I'm talking about and what I know is not for sites. I didn’t name specific names. You reproach a person without even knowing him and not seeing. More, I’m not going to explain anything to you.
          2. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 16: 25 New
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            I remember how any normal person - well, how can there be someone who will take me like that and blame me? What to do then?

            Well, why are you so attacked by Andrei, here we are only commenting on the words of GDP, and not blaming.
            No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened.
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 17: 24 New
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              Thanks you.-)
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            I do not steal myself, and I do not blame others loudly and without evidence.

            He showed the pedal paper with stamps in his films about Sechin and Zolotov. No one caught him in a lie. wink
  • Andy 11 November 2019 14: 45 New
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    laughing the president’s work is hard: everyone steals around, and there’s no one to shoot around - all his
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 17: 27 New
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      Andy, what you wrote is a masterpiece !!! K. Prutkov- resting. I neighing !!! -))) Thank you! I think that it was not alone that raised my mood ...-)))
    2. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 17: 36 New
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      the president’s work is hard: everyone steals around, and there’s no one to shoot around - all his

      Have to bomb Voronezh.
    3. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 17: 36 New
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      the president’s work is hard: everyone steals around, and there’s no one to shoot around - all his

      Not even everyone can be planted, even if you really want to.
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Not even everyone can be planted, even if you really want to.

        And what is stopping you?
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          Quote: Stroporez
          And what is stopping you?

          Who's in the way.
          1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 18: 07 New
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            Who's in the way.

            Well, who are these villains?
            1. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 18: 15 New
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              Well, who are these villains?

              There are few places, they will not fit.
  • paul3390 11 November 2019 14: 46 New
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    People need a strong leader, whose calls will be taken very seriously

    A strong leader does not call but orders. And severely punishes for failure to comply with their orders. And these calls are already reminiscent of rain spellcasters in Africa ..
  • Romario_Argo 11 November 2019 14: 47 New
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    1. lift moratorium on death penalty with regard to state defense order and national security
    2. conduct courts in closed session (classified as "Secret" - does not imply the presence of lawyers)
    3. to appoint FSB officers to various posts - where officials lost confidence
    4. Extreme measure in remote "feudal principalities" - FSB firing squads (!)
    * OPG forgot their place (!) - attack on the military echelon in Transbaikalia at the Vostok-2018 exercises
    1. Rzzz 11 November 2019 15: 12 New
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      to appoint FSB officers to various posts -

      Those colonels who regularly seize billions?
      1. Romario_Argo 11 November 2019 15: 54 New
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        Those colonels who regularly seize billions?

        and after 25 years it turns out that it was a brilliant operation of the FSB and the SVR
        а while you can water everyone with mudtime will wash away everything
        1. kjhg 11 November 2019 16: 52 New
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          25 years later it turns out that it was a brilliant operation

          This is already recognized as a brilliant corruption system of our time. One bad person appoints another bad person as the head of the FSB. This leader appoints the heads of departments of his bad people. Then, these bad people tax banks with tribute. Those who refuse to pay are attacked by the country's best special forces against terrorism. Bankers, in turn, bring banks to bankruptcy. This is noticed by the Central Bank and allocates tens of billions of gold reserves of the country for the rehabilitation of this bank. Isn't it a brilliant circuit?
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            Isn't it a brilliant circuit?

            and who was the mole?
            1. kjhg 11 November 2019 22: 03 New
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              An entire organized crime group worked and continues to work in the FSB, which is headed, at least, by the deputy director of the FSB Bortnikov, General Kupryazhkin. And this money, 12 billion rubles, is only a small part of the huge amount that they received. The bill goes to hundreds of billions and even trillions.
              If you want to know more, here is the address: https: //pasmi.ru/archive/233695/.
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                and you are sure that if you squeezed money from foreign agents, helpers through banks, and poured the Old in another sauce through the Central Bank - but at the same time you didn’t report the details, it’s Gos. treason (????)
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            Quote: kjhg
            One bad person appoints another bad person as FSB leader

            In Tolyatti, we have the head of the police, Kheyrula Akhmetkhanov, who, as the head of the investigation at the Avtozavodsky District Department of Internal Affairs, covered all persons of Caucasian ethnicity involved in trade (according to rumors of course wink ) Having become the head of the Internal Affairs Directorate of the city of Tolyatti, he put down all of his posts. What do you think, what criteria did he follow when appointing subordinates? Honesty or fidelity? The answer I think will be unambiguous.
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              And so all over the country. Therefore, the country is degrading from year to year, and the population is dying.
            2. Romario_Argo 12 November 2019 11: 08 New
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              it happens differently when people at the bureaucratic posts are not replaced
              and as in your cases, a pure criminal in power - then they introduce agents, or they recruit even worse. And then it will be later. We will not report the results to you
              so to speak, everything has its time
      2. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 16: 31 New
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        Those colonels who regularly seize billions?

        In the pot where the soup is cooked, kharcho will never work.
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        no. lieutenants. who for an extra asterisk on shoulder straps a couple of thousand bureaucrats. he will shoot and will not blink an eye. And people will say thanks to him for that !!!
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          Unfortunately, even a taco leyenantik will quickly realize that asterisks are good, and grandmas are much better. And when both the grandmothers and the stars are generally wonderful.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich 11 November 2019 17: 33 New
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      Well .... you’re my friend, you’ve taken it cool-) So Makar you need to plant the whole country. At the same time, the housing issue will be resolved-)
  • tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 52 New
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    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.
    Well, the respected GDP has forgotten that before 1953 this was not enough, because everyone knew that he might end up in a place not so beloved by the Democrats, called the Gulag. But now is not the time, now is capitalism. And what is capital? As we have been taught, the main thing in capital is “Profit”. Well, "Theft" is the same "Profit".
    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 18 New
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      Until 1953, they managed to simply dig into the ground ineptly. The mess, judging by the surviving documents, was epic.
      1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 16: 36 New
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        As if after 1953 the money didn’t rattle? We drove new aerodrome equipment, drove from afar, because the far North. Something for parts was torn apart, something safely rotted in the open. They wrote off, ordered a new one. After all, everything is collective farm, because everything around is mine.
        1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 42 New
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          Yes at all times.
          But here the point is that the comrade precisely leads this time as an example of order and legality.
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            Quote: Mestny
            Yes at all times.
            But here the point is that the comrade precisely leads this time as an example of order and legality.

            They stole and planted at all times, human greed has not yet been abolished. But as far as I remember, such high-ranking thieves as Ulyukaev, Zakharchenko, Khoroshavin, and Vasilyeva, who were not removed gold and currency by kilograms below the rank, I’ll be silent about the palaces.
  • Mihail55 11 November 2019 14: 55 New
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    Creation of 25 million workers ... import substitution - now back ??? In the 80s ... 90s, the Soviet heritage (applied science, equipment) was consumed in industry ... and now what ??? Of course - WEST will help us!
    1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 17: 34 New
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      Quote: Michael55
      and now what ???

      Was there still a 2020 program and where is it?
      1. Karabin 11 November 2019 18: 56 New
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        and where is she?
        What sir are you, however, impatient. There is another month and a half! Eh, let's live! drinks
        1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 20: 32 New
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          Quote: Karabin
          What sir are you, however, impatient. There is another month and a half! Eh, let's live!

          And the adherents believe and wait wassat drinks
        2. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 20: 37 New
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          Eh, let's live!

          If we survive .... bully
  • paul3390 11 November 2019 14: 57 New
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    What do they do at the moment, I don’t know ..

    Return Soviet power ... There is no other option in principle. Otherwise, we’ll drown the whole country in a bourgeois swamp ..
    1. Vasyan1971 11 November 2019 15: 06 New
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      Quote: paul3390
      Return Soviet power ... There is no other option in principle. Otherwise, we’ll drown the whole country in a bourgeois swamp ..

      And on the other hand, it was from the Soviet regime that the people rushed into this “bourgeois swamp”. request
      1. vvnab 11 November 2019 16: 38 New
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        it was from Soviet power that the people rushed into this "bourgeois swamp."

        Well of course not! )
        Soviet power - the power of the Soviets, collegial representative bodies of people's power. There was no Soviet power in the late USSR. And they didn’t rush at all from the Soviet regime, but from the dominance of the party apparatus of the CPSU (whose representatives are still in power, by the way). And not in the "bourgeois swamp", but in a brighter future, devoid of the shortcomings of late Soviet society, but not at all denying the socialist gains. And this was already taken by the EBN into the swamp of all of us ... Or rather, it didn’t even lead, but drove it. Machine guns and tanks.
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          Quote: vvnab
          Well of course not!

          Yes.
          Quote: vvnab
          And not in the "bourgeois swamp", but in the bright future

          Then we are now in this "bright future". We’ll start a little more and choke.
          Quote: vvnab
          EBN led ... Or rather did not lead, but drove. Machine guns and tanks.

          Kaneshna! Hitler didn’t drive tanks and machine guns, but EBN did! It’s not funny for yourself? They ran themselves. And what kind of ukonebratsky habit to blame everything on the successors?
          They ran into what they fought for. What's there ...
    2. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 16: 17 New
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      What, again, coupon products? Bored of living without queues?
      1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 28 New
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        Nothing. The West will come and help ... for humanitarian purposes, of course. And they will sit in their Moscow socialist republic and puff their cheeks about the revival of the USSR. They’ll leave it to them, okay.
      2. Alexander Ra 11 November 2019 21: 04 New
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        How could a mobilization economy be carried out today, is it necessary — voluntarily? How many of us have maintained our understanding of the need for productive labor, and how many have been tempted to make money out of thin air? It would be correct to introduce cards for 2-3 years, this is only one of many means for new industrialization.
    3. VeteranVSSSR 11 November 2019 23: 36 New
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      And where to give priests ???
  • demo 11 November 2019 15: 00 New
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    Purchased domestic equipment must be fully competitive. No need to repeat what happened in a closed Soviet economy. The equipment must meet customer requirements, have a reliable after-sales and warranty service system.
    And what will the price of such equipment be?
    Did the Siemens example teach anything to anyone?
    What a serious company will get into the Russian Federation with its equipment and warranty service.
    What about sanctions tomorrow?
    So BB before you talk, you would have to think.
    1. GELEZNII_KAPUT 11 November 2019 15: 05 New
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      Quote: demo
      Purchased domestic equipment must be fully competitive. No need to repeat what happened in a closed Soviet economy. The equipment must meet customer requirements, have a reliable after-sales and warranty service system.
      And what will the price of such equipment be?
      Did the Siemens example teach anything to anyone?
      What a serious company will get into the Russian Federation with its equipment and warranty service.
      What about sanctions tomorrow?
      So BB before you talk, you would have to think.

      SchA under this tune how to buy-buy, sanctions sanctions, and grab this holy thing! bully
      1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 21 New
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        You do not please understandable business.
        Bought in the West? - the authorities are to blame, they themselves cannot produce.
        Buying your own? - Power is to blame, everything is expensive and worse than the West.
        If, instead of this power, another thing happened, yours, I’m sure, would have done the full game, but would have screamed from all the irons that now everything is right, now we’ll live.
        1. demo 11 November 2019 16: 44 New
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          Who am I to please me?
          The question is different.
          Equipment (technology) bought abroad can at one moment become an instrument of pressure on Russia.
          Sukhoi Super Jet plane, Navy ships, auxiliary equipment for military equipment (night vision sights), etc.
          Examples of mass.
          Is everything clear to everyone?
          In modern conditions, one cannot be sure that someone will not bend!
          The Philippines wanted our MIGs for their palm oil. So what? Hegemon led an eyebrow and .... paragraph.

          Russia was, and should become, a self-sufficient country with the ability to produce high-tech products of a wide range.
          It is only necessary to observe a tiny condition - the leadership should see clearly.
          But this condition is Everest on the way to such a goal!
    2. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 16: 27 New
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      So BB before you talk, you would have to think.

      What they wrote, it says. Speaks, speaks, speaks and shows.
    3. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 16: 37 New
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      So BB you ...

      And you.

      You again have the word thought ahead of you ... mate wink

      In a four-word phrase, no longer than three letters each, 2 errors ... it's really cool good yes
      1. demo 11 November 2019 16: 48 New
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        Once, in the year 97, the last millennium, I was on a business trip in Chelyabinsk.
        It was Friday. I took myself five liters of beer, fish and sat down to watch TV in the hotel.
        And here they broadcast Yeltsin’s speech in the United States.
        Well, as he said, everyone remembers that. I wanted to give a forged boot on my tailbone so that I could express myself more quickly.
        I will cut it.
        When I had finished all the beer, it was not possible for me to keep up with this type of speech.
        You, my friend, hold on.
        The morning will come.
        And everything will be fine.
        And even for my thought you will keep up. hi
        1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 16: 53 New
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          Quote: demo
          It was Friday. I took myself five liters of beer, fish and sat down to watch TV in the hotel

          Are you an alcoholic?

          Quote: demo
          it was not possible for me to keep up with this type of speech

          Well, still - 10 bottles - this is about zero wink

          Quote: Golovan Jack
          You again have the word thought ahead of you ... mate

          Quote: demo
          And even for my thought you will keep up

          You about Thomas, you about Yeryomu ... buddy, you write faster than you have time to think ... you don’t have enough thoughts for all the words ...

          So - more understandable? repeat
          1. demo 11 November 2019 20: 07 New
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            Yes.
            If I don’t have enough thoughts for all the words, then your words characterize you as absolutely meaningless.
            I conclude the dialogue with you with the following couplet:
            Stupidly constrained - do not sharpen.
            Stupidly born - do not teach.
            1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 20: 28 New
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              Quote: demo
              Stupidly born - do not teach

              I'm not offended request

              In general, it’s funny enough when someone who understands literacy mediocre and expresses itself vaguely tries to teach the head of state to think laughing
  • svp67 11 November 2019 15: 00 New
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    Someone understood something? I am not like that.
    One side:
    The President noted that the purchase of domestic equipment should be carried out taking into account its competitiveness, and to buy Russian equipment only because it is Russian, but cannot withstand competition, it makes no sense.
    And then ...
    "Once again I want to repeat. It is important to ensure that these purchases are based primarily on domestic producers, so that the colossal budget funds allocated for these purposes work precisely within the country, for the development of the Russian economy, provide an additional opportunity for creating high-quality, qualified, well-paid jobs in our cities, in the regions as a whole, for the qualitative growth of high-tech industries, for business development and, very importantly, the diversification of the defense industry. "

    And Mr. President understands that this cannot be achieved now by government efforts alone? That it is time to give free rein to the so-called "business", that is, people who are not members of the state structure, but who are sick of the job and know how to do it, but there are MORE in our country, not everyone escaped ...
    Or is it time for us to return the Soviet system. Who would not say that, but in contrast to present times, the competition in it was the strongest
    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 22 New
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      So freedom to business or the Soviet system?
      The Soviet system did not provide for any business. Only criminal.
      1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 28 New
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        So freedom to business or the Soviet system?

        It seems that even the GDP has not yet decided this. You won’t get new, excellent models of equipment without competition, but we’ve done everything to minimize it
        1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 43 New
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          So maybe we won’t bother him, let him make a decision? More precisely, the decisions have already been made, and for a long time. The implementation process is long and extremely difficult.
          But the revolutionaries think that you can now take to the streets, and tomorrow everything will go, go! Like under Stalin.
          1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 46 New
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            So maybe we won’t bother him, let him make a decision?

            Sorry, but here every day is dear, and he, something "does not moo, does not calve ..." are just words. There are few cases. And the "performers", especially the main one, by the name of Medvedev, are not credible.
            1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 51 New
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              This one doesn’t.
              I can only say one thing by 2024, everything will finally become clear.
              And most importantly - it does not depend on a cohesive group of skakuas on any sites, even on this, regrettably.
              This topic will no longer work as it was planned by American authors.
              1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 53 New
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                This topic will no longer work as it was planned by American authors.

                God give it. Honestly, the "2024 problem" is a bit annoying.
                1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 31 New
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                  Yes, annoying.
                  But, while there is no real reason to shout that everything is horrible, agree. There are some negative points, however quite expected against the background of unprecedented sanctions and the height of Russophobia.
                  The authors of this pressure generally expected that Russia would deflate by 2016-17.
                  But no, it didn’t work out.
              2. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 20: 46 New
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                I can only say one thing by 2024, everything will finally become clear.

                Somewhere I already heard. Oh yes, in 2017 and 2018. Everyone hoped for radical personnel changes, but after the election, “Ba, all faces are familiar”! . wink
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            Quote: Mestny
            So maybe we won’t interfere with him,

            And how can we interfere with His Excellency?
            Quote: Mestny
            The implementation process is long and extremely difficult.

            What is somewhat reminiscent of the process of teaching Nasruddin donkey human language.
            Quote: Mestny
            But the revolutionaries think that you can now take to the streets, and tomorrow everything will go, go!

            I don’t know how tomorrow, but today definitely doesn’t. A revolutionary situation is always created at the top, by their actions or inaction. But what the revolutionaries think or plan is the tenth thing. After revolutions, always impromptu.
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    3. demo 11 November 2019 16: 50 New
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      That it is time to give free rein to the so-called "business", that is, people who are not members of the state structure, but who are sick of the job and know how to do it, but there are MORE in our country, not everyone escaped ...
      Yeah! Now they will! And money, and orders, and guarantees, and cops with tax officials will be driven with a dubai.
  • midshipman 11 November 2019 15: 00 New
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    In the 80s I had to arrange at the USSR Ministry of Radio Industry (6 GU) the delivery of systems: radio navigation, instrumental landing, secondary, landing, survey and track radars from 45 enterprises subordinate to me. More than 2000 civil aviation airports and 1500 aerodromes of the State Aviation were equipped (including Baikanur, Harol and Crimea). We never stole, all prices were approved in advance in the relevant services. What is happening now is incomprehensible to the mind.
    1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 23 New
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      Are airfields now without navigation equipment and radar?
      No, not left.
      So what do you need something for? Checkers or go?
      1. Doliva63 11 November 2019 17: 06 New
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        Are airfields now without navigation equipment and radar?
        No, not left.
        So what do you need something for? Checkers or go?

        And how many airfields are left? With
        1. midshipman 11 November 2019 19: 19 New
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          There are 258 airports in the Russian Federation, and 195 for aerodromes for the State Aviation. Only in the Murmansk region there were 38 aerodromes, only 2 remained. Think about it!
          For comparison, there are 13 thousand airports in the USA. Today from Murmansk to Arkhangelsk they fly through Moscow or St. Petersburg
          1. Doliva63 11 November 2019 19: 49 New
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            Quote: midshipman
            There are 258 airports in the Russian Federation, and 195 for aerodromes for the State Aviation. Only in the Murmansk region there were 38 aerodromes, only 2 remained. Think about it!
            For comparison, there are 13 thousand airports in the USA. Today from Murmansk to Arkhangelsk they fly through Moscow or St. Petersburg

            Yes, I’m a little aware, but the eccentric to whom I answered seems to be sure that the worse, the better.
    2. Horon 11 November 2019 16: 45 New
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      The systems are different, although they stole it then. Then money was only a means of payment, now - they measured the situation in society! Hence the theft, not for the sake of amending their finances, but for the sake of gaining great personal freedom. For the sake of this, people go for everything! request
  • _Ugene_ 11 November 2019 15: 01 New
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    equipment must be fully competitive. The equipment must meet customer requirements, have a reliable after-sales and warranty service system.

    It is important to ensure that these purchases are based primarily on domestic producers, so that the colossal budget funds allocated for these purposes work precisely within the country and for the development of the Russian economy

    unfortunately between these statements in reality often there is a contradiction and you have to choose - either the first or second
  • GELEZNII_KAPUT 11 November 2019 15: 02 New
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    Purchases, with a bang they only participate in blunts, they perverted everything to the utmost, subordinates of the Guarantor! hi
  • Vasyan1971 11 November 2019 15: 04 New
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    The equipment must meet customer requirements, have a reliable after-sales and warranty service system.

    In general, it is strange that the President says such things (whoever he is personally), and not Captain Evidence ...
    No, they steal hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions. Several dozen criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

    Not afraid of jail, plant families up to the third knee.
    According to the president, he intends to ask the prosecutor's office, the investigating authorities and the control department of the president to establish proper control.

    Yes, do not "ask"! Another thing is that it makes no sense to “ask” one hand to punish the other ...
  • Ross xnumx 11 November 2019 15: 06 New
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    The President noted that the purchase of domestic equipment should be carried out taking into account its competitiveness, and buy Russian equipment only because it is Russianbut can’t stand the competition, there's no point.

    But does it make sense to produce a technique that does not withstand any competition?
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      No
      But, it’s worth starting to talk about it - then a furious howl is heard about the closure of plants, and about all-stolen.
  • bars1 11 November 2019 15: 07 New
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    Laughs at Zelensky, and our Putin with his requests differs little from him ... Petitioner, damn it! Take the same Tulun, Putin was there several times asking for everything and calling for conscience, officials sent a guarantor and everything there, by and large, is still ... And they wonder why Stalin's popularity is growing! It would be strange if she did not grow against this background.
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    Something associatively recalled the opinion of the people about the late reign of Brezhnev:
    "The eyebrows are black, thick,
    The speeches are long ... Empty.
    There is a lot of noise. No sense ...
    What the hell is this grandfather for us? "
    And after all, Leonid Ilyich asked to be released. But the elderly retinue was afraid, because not all of the elderly could remain at the feeding trough. So Ilyich reached the tomb of the Lord.
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      1. Mestny 11 November 2019 16: 04 New
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        It remains to remember what happened afterwards. After "the indignant people went to the square and said their word in the name of freedom."
        Why did they decide that this time there will be a different result?
  • paul3390 11 November 2019 15: 16 New
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    Quote: Vasyan1971
    Quote: paul3390
    Return Soviet power ... There is no other option in principle. Otherwise, we’ll drown the whole country in a bourgeois swamp ..

    And on the other hand, it was from the Soviet regime that the people rushed into this “bourgeois swamp”. request

    Nobody rushed anywhere .. Who in the 91st people asked? Moreover, they also lied to the full extent. They would have shown to the people then the real future - hell would have been there, not capitalism.
  • Xenofont 11 November 2019 15: 16 New
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    I can’t understand, if it’s not corny, why is it impossible to organize monthly spending control on such large-scale projects with state funding? Drive a commission to a strategic facility for a few days no problem! The answer is simple: those responsible in departments are personally interested in a mess.
    1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 17: 29 New
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      why on such large-scale projects with public funding it is impossible to organize control over spending every month?

      Because without corruption, this system will fall apart within the same month.
  • K-36 11 November 2019 15: 25 New
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    I also remembered the song of Slepakov (2013), “Putin is scary, very scary. I’m afraid of him” -man7542273619028320053-1 & r
  • Nonna 11 November 2019 15: 29 New
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    - "This is the leg ... whoever needs it - the leg." All their own and no one to plant. Let him see who is sitting at his table there and the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor’s Office will not need
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    A powerful breakthrough is our chance, there is no time for buildup !!!
  • Charik 11 November 2019 15: 44 New
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    Russian President Vladimir Putin pointed out a mess during the construction of the Vostochny spaceport. As the head of state noted during a meeting with the government on November 11, it was not possible to avoid theft, despite the criminal cases instituted --- It’s time to prepare the delivery of the “hero” for Rogozin
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      What does Rogozin have to do with it? He created the party Homeland, before this KRO. Could get out of politics. But they sent to Brussels, he inflicted a lot of sheer there on the NATO. Then vice-premier for the military-industrial complex. On all issues, he was an opponent of the liberal government of Medvedev. Now the head of ROSKOSMOS without funding and where everything has already been stolen before him.
  • 7,62h54 11 November 2019 15: 54 New
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    Sell ​​licenses for shooting embezzlers. The first four will decide, the rest will take up the mind.
    1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 18: 14 New
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      That's just the point that they will not undertake. China shoots its own periodically - they do not become smaller. New sentences every year. The thirst for profit is higher than the instinct of self-preservation.
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        How can I put things in order when the embezzler judges the same, but who has not yet been caught, well, or who wants to take his place. And here was a fantastic story by R. Sheckley “A ticket to the planet Tranay”. There, a collar was fastened to each official on the neck. Any citizen dissatisfied with the work of bureaucrats could go into the office and press a button, and wherever he was torn off his head.
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        China shoots its own periodically - they do not become smaller.

        Andrei, imagine how many would have been if they hadn’t been shot? With the eastern mentality?
        1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 20: 59 New
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          Ideally, a person should not take bribes, not because punishment will follow, but because it is unacceptable, bad, as they say in certain circles.
          "I do not take bribes: it is a shame for my power." The question is upbringing.
  • Reserve buildbat 11 November 2019 16: 08 New
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    "People are in prison" ... Not people, but thieves. They should not sit in prison with scanty terms, but hang out in a noose. And ALL of their relatives with bare opa should grow oranges on Novaya Zemlya.
  • nikvic46 11 November 2019 16: 10 New
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    Does anyone decrypt what were the mistakes of the USSR?
    1. Volodin 11 November 2019 16: 18 New
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      Quote: nikvic46
      Does anyone decrypt what were the mistakes of the USSR?

      I'll try. The main mistake of the USSR is that the USSR is now gone ...
    2. donavi49 11 November 2019 16: 43 New
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      Plant A - launches product G. All initiatives on the topic of improvement / updating and modernization - are cut for the plan. For a hint that it is time to make a new product - they can also kick them out in disgrace. As a result, the product G - comes with an overfulfillment of the plan (for bonuses and preferences on this). But the product itself is real - G.

      However, there is no choice.
      1. g_ae 11 November 2019 19: 36 New
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        That's interesting. It turns out that G products still form the basis of the country's defense capability. Well this is what G did in the USSR. On G, so to speak, the defense is based. Now go to any store, look at the shelves. One is China. They themselves are not even able to do elementary g. Unprofitable.
      2. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 20: 53 New
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        All initiatives on the topic of improvement / updating and modernization are cut for the plan

        But what about the premium for Ratsukha? wink Although the same thing happened.
  • Gardamir 11 November 2019 16: 10 New
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    He expressed his interest in competitiveness. For example, which of the tanks is more competitive, American, European, Israeli or Chinese. or maybe a tank made in Russia. Here, Vladimir Vladimirovich, in his repertoire, it must be said that it was bad in the USSR and how good everything is now.
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      Well, in general, he correctly said.

      The position of the fisheries is now very often:
      We have such a product. We buy here at this price. I do not like? Say what you need to improve, increase reliability? Well, go look somewhere else. You need to learn the money in Russia, and we are the only manufacturer. Therefore, success and good mood, the next time contact will be + 6% mark-up wink .

      So Putin demands that this not happen.
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    Commune must be planted all! This "infection" is from them!

    These people are radishes. They are only red on top. The inside of them is white ...
  • g_ae 11 November 2019 16: 20 New
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    If we take into account the fulfillment of May’s endless decrees, pensions promises, all kinds of powerful jerks, “roll up time”, etc., etc., after the words of the Russian president, the population has reason to strain. This is wf not casual. And not good.
  • paul3390 11 November 2019 16: 28 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    What, again, coupon products? Bored of living without queues?

    Is the old training manual not fluttering? Do not judge the USSR by its last years. Then - preparations for his delivery were already in full swing ... And so - but there was housing, normal free education and affordable medicine .. And much, much more. And then with sausage but without the rest, too, it’s somehow not very fun ...
    1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 17: 50 New
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      I did not live in other years, but I remember well the end of the 70s and 80s. As for housing, you got excited - you lived in a communal apartment. Then in the apartment, but, you see, 80 squares for 7 people, this is nothing.
      1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 21: 00 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Then in the apartment, but, you see, 80 squares for 7 people, this is nothing.

        They worked like that in an old village, in the log house they changed the heating. So, the house is 150 years old, 7 by 7 meters, a Russian stove in the center. Before the revolution, a family of 10 lived.
        Why am I all this? Every year the life of generations is changing for the better, we have just moved five of us to 63 square meters, and we are all crying out of happiness. Although still pay and pay. request
        1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 21: 14 New
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          He visited the Russian North, in the Arkhangelsk. There are preserved houses about seven to eight windows on the facade, five walls with a cut in the center. At least 12 to 15. Even with my height from the ground I could not reach the windows, they drove into the underground on a cart. They knew how to build ancestors, they knew how.
  • faterdom 11 November 2019 16: 34 New
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    This is not the first week Putin has personally led ministers.
    I recall the sunken phrase from the film "Purgatory": "Well, let's fight, for ... Since there is no one else, for ...?"
    We have no one to lead homeless ministers ... to explain to them what they want, because they themselves can not understand this in any way. Chide, again. Neither the prime minister, nor the deputy prime minister ... apparently, too, they do not really understand what they have already done, and what really needs to be done.
  • Doliva63 11 November 2019 16: 48 New
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    "No need to repeat what happened in a closed Soviet economy." And then: "so that the colossal budget funds allocated for these purposes work precisely within the country ..."
    The eternal problem of cowards and crosses laughing
  • senima56 11 November 2019 16: 55 New
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    So, they didn’t plant those, Vladimir Vladimirovich! In each CASE there should be a responsible person, from whom later can you ask! Under the "personal responsibility", each direction in national projects! Otherwise, they will steal like that! fool
    1. Elephant 11 November 2019 17: 32 New
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      Or maybe it is not necessary sovereign national projects? Why withdraw money from the real economy and then distribute it incomprehensibly how ?!
  • Sapsan136 11 November 2019 17: 07 New
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    And why does Putin repeat the mistakes of the USSR squandering Russian money for the needs of foreign states ?! You tired of Vova gifts to send to all foreign parasites at the expense and to the detriment of the Russian Federation!
  • New Year day 11 November 2019 17: 09 New
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    ... Dozens of criminal cases have already been opened. Court decisions have already taken place, people are in prison. There is no order so there until now, and failed to restore properly.

    So maybe the wrong ones are sitting, Vladimir Vladimirovich?
  • Elephant 11 November 2019 17: 15 New
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    And who is stopping the construction of factories in our country? Maybe the liberal economic model does not suit us?
    1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 17: 45 New
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      Where did you see our liberal model? We are slipping into state capitalism.
  • capsid 11 November 2019 17: 42 New
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    Does anyone decrypt what were the mistakes of the USSR?

    We looked at the world from a trench without binoculars. It was believed that comfort is unnecessary for a person, and they did not create it. There is always no grip and queue.
  • Crane 11 November 2019 18: 00 New
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    So freedom to business or the Soviet system?
    The Soviet system did not provide for any business. Only criminal.

    There is no business. And the competition in the defense industry between plant directors was fierce.
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    Egg 11 November 2019 18: 06 New
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    Quote: Karen
    I recently called my old

    Yeah, that’s what he’ll tell, especially on the phone, yeah wassat
  • Geo⁣ 11 November 2019 18: 07 New
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    Russian, but does not stand up to competition
    And he didn’t travel for a year on an aurus - but he wanted to return to a foreign car laughing
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    Egg 11 November 2019 18: 19 New
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    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Not even everyone can be planted, even if you really want to.

    And what is stopping you?

    The king is made by the retinue. If everyone is planted, who will make the king?
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  • skif8013 11 November 2019 18: 36 New
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    Gentlemen, it seems that only opponents of Putin are sitting on VO. Honestly, bitterly read all of these comments. It seems that the commentators have the memory of a fish, or those who stupidly did not find the 90s write it. Of course, I’ll grab a bunch of minuses, but maybe it’s enough to whine and blame everything on Putin ?! I'm not his fan, but he deserves at least respect for pulling the country out of shit. And this fact is not disputable.
    1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 18: 39 New
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      They think that after Putin it will be better. Something I doubt it.
    2. Gardamir 11 November 2019 19: 15 New
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      did not find the 90s
      I even found the 60s. You know, there were no drug addicts and homeless people, pensioners did not rummage through landfills.
      to blame everything on Putin?
      Putin himself is throwing everything at the Union. And in those days, Lenin, and Stalin, and Khrushchev, and Brezhnev were responsible for everything, and Putin’s time will be famous for the fact that he has nothing to do with everything, well, except that Crimea has been attached.
      About shit in more detail. Just don’t talk about cars in the yards, otherwise I’ll tell you about the times of John Terrible.
      1. skif8013 11 November 2019 19: 29 New
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        About shit in more detail.
        Do you think that before 2000 there were golden years?
        You know, there were no drug addicts and homeless people, pensioners did not rummage through landfills.
        Also Putin is to blame ?! Good position to blame everything on someone and not look in the mirror !!!
        1. Gardamir 11 November 2019 19: 43 New
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          Putin is also to blame
          However, you are a comedian. Until 2000, there were 60s, 70s, and the first half of the 80s was the golden age. And what about the blame, not the blame here are the words of Putin himself
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        1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 23: 18 New
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          Quote: rruvim
          He was simply confronted with a fact

          And who did this?
          1. rruvim 11 November 2019 23: 53 New
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            People. Crimeans. But we can also add a conspiracy thesis: oligarch Malofeev and his guards, Wagner and his team, yes anything. See the timeline. Green men appeared only when Aksyonov and Co. had already steered the situation.
            1. Golovan Jack 12 November 2019 00: 03 New
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              Green men appeared only when Aksyonov and Co. already taxied the situation

              Timeline - in the studio yes

              Laugh together wink
              1. rruvim 12 November 2019 00: 13 New
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                Googling !!! Everything will become clear. I'm not a polar bear secretary.
              2. rruvim 12 November 2019 00: 16 New
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                The operation of the annexation of Crimea began to be developed by a narrow group of the military leadership of Russia at the end of January 2014 in the strictest secrecy, into which neither Putin nor, especially, Surkov were dedicated. Otherwise, the operation would be guaranteed to fail. Prior to this, no one had any thoughts about Crimea at all. Putin was confronted with the fact only at the beginning of March after Crimea was taken under control. Thus, Putin was not up to date almost until the very last moment. He was informed only after the date of the referendum on the reunification of Crimea with Russia was postponed from March 23 to March 16, 2014. Recall that the date of the referendum was postponed twice. The first time a referendum was scheduled for May 2014. Then the date of the referendum was postponed to March 23. And for the second time, the referendum was finally scheduled for March 16, 2014. And only after that, when everything was ready, did the operation leaders inform Putin.
                1. Golovan Jack 12 November 2019 00: 28 New
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                  El Murida quote? Which Nesmiyan? wink

                  Well, here’s hutspa ... just to all hutspa hutspa good laughing good
                  1. rruvim 12 November 2019 00: 43 New
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                    Of course I don’t believe in it myself fellow But I have familiar conspiracy theorists (on the benches) who claim that the EUROMAIDAN Brigadier also provoked something to attach Crimea. For me: does Putin need this? One hemorrhoids and sanctions. But Crimeans know that the green men did not admit that they were Russians, and until the last did not interfere in the political process. They were waiting ...
                    1. Golovan Jack 12 November 2019 00: 57 New
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                      Of course I don’t believe in it myself

                      Why then write? Taki hutspa? wink

                      Quote: rruvim
                      For me: does Putin need this? One hemorrhoids and sanctions

                      Well, the fleet in Sevastopol is worth the sanctions ... but in general the Crimea is a good thing, they picked it up - and rightly so laughing

                      Quote: rruvim
                      green men did not admit that they were Russians, and until the last did not interfere in the political process

                      Yeah. Ukrovoin only drove a broom, and so-did not interfere in anything, naturally yes

                      Well, buddy ... have fun without me further, I'm tired of you already.
                      1. rruvim 12 November 2019 01: 16 New
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                        The fact that they did not admit that the Russians were quite obvious. Masks, lack of identification chevrons and ranks. Everyone was funny, and the helicopters that crossed the Kerch Strait were of unknown construction. But why this disguise, if Putin, after the referendum, admitted that we had a quota for increasing the Black Sea Fleet’s troops by another 10000 soldiers. Why then these mask shows?
      3. rruvim 11 November 2019 23: 22 New
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        Yes, he did not join the Crimea! Crimea itself has returned. And his political will has nothing to do with it.
        1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 23: 32 New
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          Nice hutspa good

          Ok, you understand.
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            1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 23: 54 New
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              Quote: rruvim
              after the de facto transfer of all power to the Russians

              Yeah ... the Ukrainian army all over the peninsula, one and a half buildings were captured by the locals ... and the power, well - definitely, "passed" laughing

              It is de facto.

              Quote: rruvim
              send GRU officers to seize the initiative

              Hutspa is even better! Man, you are clearly in shock.

              Quote: rruvim
              And so it would be - Russian Republic of Crimea

              Independent or something, independent ... stop already, it’s harmful to laugh so much stop
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    3. Alexander Ra 11 November 2019 21: 57 New
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      Quote: skif8013
      the feeling that only opponents of Putin are sitting in

      The main trend since the 90s: Chubais and Co. - privatization-robbery, GDP - protection of privatization (robbery of the people). This will not allow the country to rise to its full height, a matter of time - they will trample, if, in principle, the order of things is not changed. The matter is in the order in the country, and not in a specific surname. Let GDP rule for at least 100 years, only with a nationally oriented domestic policy, which today is not.
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