About the import substitution boom


There has been a tendency in the media environment when some resources publish materials exclusively saying that everything is bad in Russia - with economics, industry, education, medicine, while others present materials that tell only about Russian achievements: new plants, technologies, economic stability. At the same time, it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a resource that would publish not one-sided videos, but those that would analyze both the advantages and disadvantages, both achievements and anti-achievements in modern Russia.


In the meantime, such a channel, perhaps someone is creating, let us pay attention to the next release from RussiaPost, where everything is purely about achievements. Comments pay particular attention to themselves, where the vast majority of statements are of this nature:
“I liked the video”, “Thanks for the good news"," Such news is truly inspiring, "" Invigorating release. "

The authors of the video themselves already in the title designate the main goal of their story about a breakthrough in import substitution: “Do not show to all fingers”.

From video:

More than 1340 import substitution projects have been implemented in Russia.

The authors called the indicators a boom. As an example, the data for October 2019 are given:

Brest milk substitute began to be produced in Bogorodsky Industrial Park, in Novosibirsk the production of nanoheterostructures based on gallium arsenide was launched, Rosneft completed testing of diesel hydrotreating catalysts according to the Euro-5 standard, the Kirovenergomash plant developed and mastered the technology of production of screw pumps.


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  1. Svarog 11 November 2019 14: 08 New
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    The authors of the video themselves already in the title designate the main goal of their story about a breakthrough in import substitution: “Do not show to all fingers”

    Around "breakthroughs" and people live worse and not all-crawlers, but realists.
    1. svp67 11 November 2019 14: 17 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      and people live worse

      Yeah, the last radish is eaten up, but they drive personal cars ...
      1. Far East 11 November 2019 14: 20 New
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        Oh, sho suggest! transfer to scooters!
        1. svp67 11 November 2019 14: 41 New
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          Quote: Far East
          Oh, sho suggest! transfer to scooters!

          I propose not to groan at every corner that the PEOPLE do not live well, but to everyone to talk specifically about themselves. Sorry, but somehow I don’t think that people like the same Colonel Zakharchenko live poorly, on the "stranger" billions
          1. Far East 11 November 2019 14: 46 New
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            in your opinion, TIGHTEN THE BANDS! BIT THE UDIL! you happen to be out of OFFICIALS! (question) in your opinion, PEOPLE have not yet paid all TAXES!
            1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 13 New
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              Quote: Far East
              you happen to be out of OFFICIALS!

              I will answer right away - no. Retiree
              Quote: Far East
              (question) in your opinion, PEOPLE have not yet paid all TAXES!

              Again this "mythical" PEOPLE. Specifically, you can ask about someone? And yes, I believe that part of our people, sending their children “mow from the army” abroad and transferring “black cash” there, FAR NOT ALL PAYS TAXES
              1. Far East 11 November 2019 15: 17 New
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                yes! people are a hoax! here for the bureaucracy we (the people) NOBODY! (Specifically, you can ask about someone?) Well, sho tell me!
                1. Mestny 11 November 2019 15: 30 New
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                  "We are the people!"
                  Yes, this is megalomania.
                  Well then, I am also a people. Not an official, no. Although, if he were, he would also be a people (that's amazing, right?)
                  So, I, as a people, I declare to you as a people - in fact, none of the voters here exists.
                  To complete failure and mass starvation is as far as to high IQ fighters with the regime.
                  I didn’t drink, I’m not a drug addict, I live in a small town, not an official.
                  Your truth is against mine.
                  1. Far East 11 November 2019 15: 34 New
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                    (We are the people! "
                    Yes, this is megalomania) EVERYTHING! It's enough!
                2. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 31 New
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                  Quote: Far East
                  here for the bureaucracy we (the people) NOBODY!

                  No, you're wrong. Already they do not simply consider themselves to be the people, "the salt of the earth" - the elite of the people. Although for me they are .... Therefore, when they talk about someone, it is necessary to speak specifically. People it's too general
                  1. Far East 11 November 2019 15: 37 New
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                    I, PEOPLE! citizen! this country! then, i'm about myself! Do you consider me a part of PEOPLE !?
                    1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 40 New
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                      Quote: Far East
                      I, PEOPLE! citizen! this country! then, i'm about myself! Do you consider me a part of PEOPLE !?

                      Of course, with one exception, you are not the whole nation, but only part of it. Do you acknowledge this?
                      1. Far East 11 November 2019 15: 44 New
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                        well, even so! (You do not know the people, but only part of them. Do you acknowledge this?) But, it changes! I can’t say, our life is getting worse!
                      2. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 51 New
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                        Quote: Far East
                        I can’t say, our life is getting worse!

                        Specifically for myself - YES WITHOUT PROBLEMS. For all the people - NO. The people, it consists of many people, different people
                      3. Chit 11 November 2019 23: 05 New
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                        You are absolutely right.
                        A people consists of many different people.
                        Mr. Sechin, Miller, Abramovich, Friedman, the Rotenberg brothers, Vekselberg, Potanin, etc., etc., etc., can be counted among the people.
                        And these gentlemen are unlikely to say that life is getting worse.
                      4. Far East 12 November 2019 10: 31 New
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                        Yes! everything with you pensioners (military, probably) CLEAR! in your opinion, the people, this is not the whole people! you tell me about our people! but I just passed the exam, far from the people! Better to live, really! everything is great! it is without sarcasm! I do not need to explain about the LIFE OF THE PEOPLE! save it for others!
        2. Lexus 11 November 2019 16: 02 New
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          Import substitution, in the vast majority of cases, boiled down to the banal replacement of components of Western origin by Chinese and a grandiose driban of budget funds for this “pipe”.
          1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 16: 14 New
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            Quote: lexus
            Import substitution in the vast majority of cases, reduced to a banal replacement of components of Western origin by Chinese and grandiose budget funds

            Buddy, to say so, you need:

            - to know every single "case of import substitution";
            - know what each of these “cases” has "reduced" to;
            - Accurately count the “cases” reduced to “driban”.

            You surely know all this - saw - thought, or did you just dream about it? laughing
        3. srelock 11 November 2019 16: 42 New
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          ... PEOPLE have not yet paid all TAXES!
          And there is. Self-employed, for example, are still not equated with legal entities and do not pay contributions to the PFR, FSS, MHIF, and they also have access to appropriate services and plan to receive a pension. And private business, especially small ones, somehow does not take taxes seriously, but should.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 08 New
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            Are the self-employed obliged to pay? How did the state help them? They do not ask for benefits from the state. What's so bad In a normal country, people with low income do not pay income. Why should there be a general tax in Russia? The meaning of head tax if the same medicine is paid. Pay for what? Is there free medicine !? There is. But how does it work? Take a queue at 4 in the morning and still pay for it? Get to the window and find out that the doctor’s position is vacant, the doctor is on sick leave, on vacation, and pay for it? Pay for free tests in six months? There is still small business! Why doesn’t he grow up? What does it not grow if it is so profitable? Have you tried business yourself? Money flooded with an avalanche? A year later became an oligarch? Do not make laugh about small business. That's why it’s small and small. He doesn’t ask for money for himself, it’s already good. And if the business goes uphill, then money for taxes will appear. hi
        4. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 18: 52 New
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          People? It depends on what kind of people. I have not heard that the self-employed pay taxes, although they use the social sphere along with bona fide taxpayers.
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 11 New
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            Those who pay taxes have money for paid medicine. Stop trying to rob the poor already. Do you need money? Well, take it offshore. What? Weak? And do not press on conscience. For some reason no one is pushing fat cats.
            1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 20: 54 New
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              Taxes are paid by all those who work officially and with a white salary. Starting from the postman and ending with the general directors.
              1. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 21: 26 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Taxes are paid by all those who work officially and with a white salary.

                taxes are paid ABSOLUTELY TO ALL who have real estate, transport, and now self-employed pay, take it easy
                once again wage workers pay personal income tax - ALL
                1. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 21: 34 New
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                  Quote: Barmaleyka
                  wage workers pay personal income tax - ALL

                  + MHIF + FSS - the employer pays.

                  And not "wage workers", but "officially working" yes
                  1. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 22: 30 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    And not "wage workers", but "officially working"

                    FOMS is not paid from salary
                    for that matter, payers ALL more how it sits in the cost of goods and services
                  2. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 22: 54 New
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                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    FOMS is not paid from salary

                    Controversial promise laughing

                    Quote: Barmaleyka
                    for that matter, payers ALL more how it sits in the cost of goods and services

                    MHIF? In the value of goods? Are you okay?

                    This ... we are talking about the fact that no one pays for those who are "on the job" in the MHIF. And these comrades love free medicine no less than those who work "white." Anderstend? wink
                  3. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 23: 15 New
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                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    MHIF? In the value of goods? Are you okay?

                    forgive me, apparently you are pouring money from the fuck and not from the feed of those who buy your goods and it is with THIS money that you pay ALL taxes
      2. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 21: 25 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        although they enjoy the social sphere along with bona fide taxpayers.

        dear if you are about yourself, then forgive me, but you personally pay only personal income tax as an employee, the rest is paid by the employer
        self-employed do not ask for unemployment benefits, but try to survive on their own, the only thing is that they unload this budget column is a big slack
        if tomorrow ALL self-employed go to the exchange, then the retirement age of 10 years will raise by XNUMX
        1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 21: 40 New
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          I’m not hired, I’m a small business. What difference does it make who pays the same MHIF or pension: the employer or directly the citizen - in both cases the money is transferred there. I just have a vivid example: I am familiar with one figure who is self-employed, very wealthy, who does not pay any taxes from the word "in general" and is proud of it. But he managed to do an operation on coronary artery bypass grafting, very expensive, according to the quota. At whose expense is this banquet?
          1. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 22: 29 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            who pays the same MHIF or pension

            big, with the same success it can be said that since I buy YOUR product or service, it is I, not YOU, who pay taxes
            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            At whose expense is this banquet?

            not for your
      3. Mikhail m 12 November 2019 04: 25 New
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        20% VAT is not considered tax? This tax is paid by EVERYTHING, from a baby to a pensioner.
        1. AU Ivanov. 12 November 2019 08: 11 New
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          VAT is just one of the taxes. There are others that individuals do not pay. Are they special?
    2. Okolotochny 11 November 2019 23: 05 New
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      You have a bite of a bit on a foreign car for several hundred thousand rubles. Not bad ...... bit.
  2. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 15: 09 New
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    What makes you think that it is his billions? Cop polkan is not a rank. Most likely he is an ordinary cashier, for a modest percentage. And he will not live long - business people are unlikely to forgive him for the loss of such money.
    1. svp67 11 November 2019 15: 14 New
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      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      What makes you think that it is his billions?

      This is already particular, I just wanted to show that the PEOPLE consists not only of pensioners
  • Trotil42 11 November 2019 14: 45 New
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    Don’t joke like that anymore ... an electric scooter from Chubais costs 600 thousand rubles ... it’s possible to transfer to Lexux .. it is all-weather all-weather .. again there are more passengers ..five mopeds for the price of a Lexus..so the scooters from Chubais for the family are stuck in you like an average jeep (presumably) ..
  • Same lech 11 November 2019 16: 00 New
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    They want to introduce a driver’s license on electric scooters. They thought about this again in the Moscow City Duma. In April, the deputies did want to ban the movement of the city on powerful scooters that can ride at high speed.

    The main enemy of progress in Russia is its deputies ... they will introduce bans on everything new and force citizens to surrender their rights or buy a license.
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 13 New
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      Do they have a license for deputy? Or are they imposters? Or do we have illegal deputies following the example of illegal armed groups?
  • Svarog 11 November 2019 14: 24 New
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    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Svarog
    and people live worse

    Yeah, the last radish is eaten up, but they drive personal cars ...

    For the overwhelming majority of citizens, a car is a means of earning .. and not an indicator at all, the average age of a car in Russia is 11,4 years https://avtocod.ru/blog/post/kakoj-srednij-vozrast-avtomobilej-v -rossii, again, those that are new are mostly not property, since they are still paid on loans.
    1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 14: 40 New
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      Lord ... do you even hear yourself sometimes? all over the world buying a car is through credit. stupidly because it’s more convenient for everyone. It’s important not how they buy, but how they pay. I can’t save 3-5 million on a car, but I can easily take it on credit. What does a vehicle mean money? the fact that you decide working moments on your car is your business. it is a convenience. Or have they all become taxi drivers? Auto is a tool and not a tool. you are not forced to buy it. you are not forced to take it on credit. you are not forced to use it for work. these are your decisions. average age 11 years? you do not specifically indicate that this is the statistics of used cars yes? and meanwhile, a certain number of them and these statistics do not intersect with new machines. count it up?
      1. Far East 11 November 2019 14: 53 New
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        hare! thanks to japan all cars on the Far East from there! to get into the loan, because of the car! for me, this is complete nonsense! I DID!
        1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 14: 59 New
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          Well, it depends on what to take) I didn’t take cars on the market for 15 years)
          1. Far East 11 November 2019 15: 04 New
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            NOBODY NOW! does not take a car for 15 years! it is NOT in trend! what market did you take a car on! (salon) this is the auto market!
            1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 15: 15 New
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              I, like you from the Far East), at one time I covered all the markets that I could) now only in the salon) this stuff that is on the markets is no longer impressive from the word at all.
      2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 23 New
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        And the meaning of buying a car? Pay money for a purchase, for repairs, for fuel, for insurance. For what? To breathe fresh exhaust in a traffic jam? Or is a car still a business of manufacturers? After all, there is no special meaning in a car if public transport is developed. For example Moscow. Clear movement of the subway without traffic jams and search for parking lots. But in small towns, public transport runs around and through the stump of a deck. And limited time. How to get to work, from work? You don’t want to, but you’ll buy a car. Do not walk on foot. The future is more likely with public self-propelled carts of different capacities. You arrived, sat down another. Jeepies call to the right place.
        1. Mordvin 3 11 November 2019 20: 38 New
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          Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
          Clear movement of the subway without traffic jams and search for parking lots.

          There is nothing to breathe there, it is overloaded, there are a lot of people, there are few air conditioners, there they push, swear, spit and collective farmers come on their feet. On the excavator you can stay without an ass, or without Italian shoelaces, in the tunnels the rats the size of a dog run, all kinds of suicides jump on the rails, and in the cars the pickpockets and the robbers are solid. laughing
          1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 22: 06 New
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            Plus for the sense of humor! drinks
    2. svp67 11 November 2019 14: 42 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      again, those that are new are mostly not property, as they are still paid on loans.

      A car loan is issued for a NEW car for a maximum of five years, if you didn’t know, note
    3. stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 15: 10 New
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      Quote: Svarog
      For the overwhelming majority of citizens, a car is a means of earning .. and not an indicator at all, the average age of a car in Russia is -11,4

      Give comparative statistics by country.
      Absolute numbers give nothing. This is how to compare bare GDP.
  • servant. 11 November 2019 14: 25 New
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    In America, they live in cars ..
    1. svp67 11 November 2019 14: 42 New
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      Quote: serviceman.
      In America, they live in cars ..

      We would have their problems ...
    2. tihonmarine 11 November 2019 15: 04 New
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      Quote: serviceman.

      In America, they live in cars ..

      And you try to live in a car with us.
      1. Svarog 11 November 2019 15: 11 New
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        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: serviceman.

        In America, they live in cars ..

        And you try to live in a car with us.

        good That's it, with our climate then .. If we had a climate, like in Los Angeles, we have a huge number of people in cars and would live ..
  • Petrol cutter 11 November 2019 19: 29 New
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    * Yeah, they eat up the last radish, but drive their own cars ... *
    And by the way, I strongly agree.
    What is characteristic is mainly those comrades who, in principle, will not die of hunger.
    There are colleagues at work who are moaning as if bad. Tomorrow we’ll all die.
    You listen and think, my friend is hearty! You drive a very expensive Nissan to work, have your own store, and rent out several apartments. And you are a nice person. I am pleased to complain. How bad do you live ?!
    What am I to say then. I live more modestly and especially not willingly to complain ...
  • Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 21: 21 New
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    Yeah, the last radish is eaten up,

    Well, not the last of course, but the feed at the RECORD crop again went up
    1. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 22: 31 New
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      minuschikov, a bag of grain cost 500 today 600-700 is it cheaper? !!!!!
      and how much milk and honey cost
  • stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 15: 08 New
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    and people live worse and not all

    Do not remind, comrades, “all-polymer” when this people, so sincerely protected by you, lived better?
    And, if possible, with surnames, addresses and appearances ...
    1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 November 2019 15: 21 New
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      In the period 2005-2008 years approximately. Yes, and later, somewhere before 2014, too
      1. stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 15: 23 New
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        With the same success I can say that in the 70 of the last century the Soviet people lived an order of magnitude better than the citizens of Norway.
        And personally, I now live no worse (or maybe better) than in the periods you mentioned.
        1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 15: 59 New
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          Quote: stalkerwalker
          And personally, I now live no worse (or maybe better) than in the periods you mentioned.

          Ilyich, what about the rest of the country's population? wink No, if you measure the quality of life with all kinds of devices, such as a computer, phone, and other trinkets, then we live incomparably better. Even the car is now more affordable. But if they touch on social protection, medical services, education and housing and communal services - the bulk of the population lives worse than in 2008, and nothing about the USSR. “Being determines consciousness”, and being is not a moral movie like in the Union, not theaters, but base TV shows and talk shows on ALL channels. Have you noticed how lately people are late? How have moral bonds changed? And to be honest, Ilyich, this is not the fault of these very people, but the fault of the system, which encourages the moral degradation of the population. Federal channels are now the first in the chernukha. The education system works in the same way.
          Here's the honest answer - is there confidence in the future of their children and grandchildren? In case God forbid something happens to you? I just can’t imagine how my wife alone will pull out a mortgage and three small children.
          You are a smart person, Ilyich, and you must understand that the country's well-being is not measured personally by your well-being, but by the well-being of the vast majority of the population. hi
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            Quote: Ingvar 72
            You are a smart person Ilyich

            Thanks Igor!
            hi
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            must understand that the country's well-being is not measured personally by your well-being, but by the well-being of the vast majority of the population

            Each of us is the smith of his own happiness.
            1. I work not so much for my well-being, but for the well-being of my family, including my grandchildren. Citizens of the Russian Federation.
            2. To achieve this, I began with a study (6 years) and several years (more than 15) career, to feel secured at the moment.
            3. I don’t cry for a bad life in social networks (in the USA this is a sign of failure), I do not pretend to be the advocate of “all oppressed”. Definitely strictly aware that everything everything, depends on me - both I earn and spend.
            5. There are no perfect social security systems. Only Norway and Switzerland can afford huge social benefits to their citizens.
            6. In order to understand how “poorly we live in Russia”, one would have to live and work outside it. And then compare. I will say one thing - there, overseas, no one eats their bread for nothing. In Russia, of course, "the grass is lower and the smoke thinner." But there is progress. And I see it with my own eyes.
            7, Money that went to the Olympics and the Mundial, for any would not be distributed "to all those in need." You can not remember about them. But you can earn. But if you work "in scrap", then who is the problem?
            PS
            Recently we were in Seville. We stood in the farthest corner of the seaport. Used taxi services. It turned out that 75% of taxi drivers get on the line after the end of the working day, i.e. After serving in the office, the Spaniards moonlight as a cab in the evenings. Sometimes on weekends. Spanish oats are now expensive.
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              Quote: stalkerwalker
              I work not so much for my well-being, but for the well-being of my family, including my grandchildren.

              I asked Ilyich, are you confident in the future of your children and grandchildren, if God forbid you will not? Won't they join the ranks of the not-so-wealthy?
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              The money that went to the Olympics and the World Cup wouldn’t be distributed to anyone in need

              I didn’t talk about it. But with this money it was possible to provide the "Armata" the entire army, and the fleet would be replenished with real ships, and not just frigates and boats. Yes, and pension reform could not be carried out.
              Regarding work abroad - not only in Norway and Switzerland, social states, in Turkmenistan, they think the same about people more than we do.
              1. stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 21: 54 New
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Are you confident in the future of your children and grandchildren, if God forbid you become? Won't they join the ranks of the not-so-wealthy?

                As O. Bender used to say, “Even Rosgosstrakh” does not give any guarantees.
                But. Igor.
                I do not see a single constructive proposal either from you or from your "colleagues" on the topic "How do we equip Russia?"
                The slogan "Take away and share" is no longer working.
                But to demolish the old government and replace it? On whom? Where is the elite? Who raised her?
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                in Turkmenistan, the same thing is thought of people more than ours.

                Vague doubts torment me ....
                1. Ingvar 72 12 November 2019 20: 55 New
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                  I do not see a single constructive proposal either from you or from your "colleagues" on the topic "How do we equip Russia?"

                  Honestly I do not know. There are blueprints, but there is no integrated solution. So I worked in the housing and communal services, and I’m directly sure that I would put things in order in this area. I’m sure that I won’t be squandered, do not squeeze myself, do not go around. But in order to move something in the housing and communal services system, working tools and real powers are needed. By the way, Grudinin put forward a sound program of reform of power.
        2. Andrei from Chelyabinsk 11 November 2019 16: 37 New
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          Quote: stalkerwalker
          With the same success I can say that in the 70 of the last century the Soviet people lived an order of magnitude better than the citizens of Norway.

          You can say something, but such nonsense will work :))))
          Arithmetic is very simple. For example, in 2013 the average salary in the country was 29 792 rubles, and the dollar exchange rate was approximately 31,5 rubles. average. That is, the average citizen of the Russian Federation earned 945 dollars per month. In 2018, the average salary amounted to 42 550 rubles and the exchange rate was approximately 63 rubles / dollars, that is, the average salary fell to 675 dollars or 1,4 times.
          And the vast majority of consumer goods of an average level and above are bought just abroad. Foreign refrigerators are better, cars are better, televisions and computers are without comment, and clothes are almost the same.
          Quote: stalkerwalker
          And personally, I now live no worse (or maybe better) than in the periods you mentioned.

          And here is one of two things: either you were able to confirm or even increase your personal income in dollar terms, that is, your salary increased one and a half times from 2013, or you put a little noodle on my ears.
          If you were able to increase your income - to please you, you are great, but why then are you spreading your positive experience throughout the country? The average salary says that the vast majority of this could not be done. If you spend so that you practically do not buy imported things ... I’m sorry, but here it’s just right to talk not about life, but about existence.
          In general, almost all felt strongly the decline in living standards. Even those with a salary of 150 thousand rubles or more - the same tourist trips, imported cars, etc., have become significantly more expensive
          1. stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 16: 49 New
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            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            the average salary fell to 675 dollars or 1,4 times.

            But why don’t we remember the 1991-1992 of the year when we all became impoverished at once? Or is it 1998, when the notorious dollar collapsed at times in one moment? Or do you not remember that the collapse of the ruble was triggered by currency speculation in the market and the failure of foreign banks to “long credit” to our enterprises?
            You probably guess that if Crimea had “sailed” to Banderostan from the USA, we would have discussed the topic of “Internet coupons” and the price of fresh hedgehogs.
            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            In general, almost all felt strongly the decline in living standards. Even those with a salary of 150 thousand rubles or more - the same tourist trips, imported cars, etc., have become significantly more expensive

            Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
            If you were able to increase your income - to please you, you are great, but why then are you spreading your positive experience throughout the country?

            But I don’t watch crowds of young people and girls storm the admission commissions of nautical schools. Nobody wants to plow, plow, and plow again ...
            And I could go to the resorts only when others stopped going there. And why should I be sad?
            1. Greg Miller 11 November 2019 17: 23 New
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              The horse plowed the most on the collective farm, but she never became chairman.
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                Only a circus horse can be an example of luck ...
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              Quote: stalkerwalker
              But why don’t we remember the 1991-1992 of the year when we all became impoverished at once?

              Because it was about
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              Do not remind, comrades, “all-polymer” when this people, so sincerely protected by you, lived better?

              I reminded :))) Why did you immediately run to 1991 for a year? :)))) Are you so comfortable in it that you don’t even want to remember that there were periods when life really got better? :)
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              But I don’t watch crowds of young people and girls storm the admission commissions of nautical schools. Nobody wants to plow, plow, and plow again ...

              Tell me, have you been checked by an optometrist for a long time? In the 2018 r competition in the higher naval educational institutions included in the system of the Military Training and Scientific Center (VUNC) of the Russian Navy was 4 person in place (guys) and 12 person in place - girls.
              Quote: stalkerwalker
              And why should I be sad?

              I do not call you to this. I suggest you not to make rash and erroneous statements :)))))
              1. stalkerwalker 11 November 2019 21: 48 New
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                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                I reminded :))) Why did you immediately run to 1991 for a year? :)))) Are you so comfortable in it that you don’t even want to remember that there were periods when life really got better? :)

                It seems that the savings were not invested there?
                I do not need to give selective statistics - when the people were poor. But I will explain to you.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                In the period 2005-2008 years approximately. Yes, and later, somewhere before 2014, too

                The crisis of 2088-2009 remember? When did the dollar first jump from 30 to 35 rubles? Who created this? Putin with the team? Do not remember - google.
                About 2014 I explained. Higher.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                Have you been checked by an optometrist for a long time?

                You will be rude at your mother-in-law if you call for pancakes.
                Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
                I suggest you not to make rash and erroneous statements :)))))

                You are simply not interesting to me. Since the acre of a torn vest on your chest is a national defender, you have nothing to provide.
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                  You are just not interesting to me

                  Of course. As soon as it turned out that the opponent is not taking his throat, but understands the numbers, he immediately became uninteresting to you :)))
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Since the acre of torn vest on your chest is a national defender, you have nothing to provide.

                  It’s strange. In my opinion, it was I who justified my opinion in the dollar equivalent of the average salary now and in 2013. In my opinion, I told you about the real numbers of the contest to your "I do not see crowds of young people at the sailors". You really didn’t say anything except common words. And talk about my vest :))) Well, well :)))
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  You will be rude at your mother-in-law if you call for pancakes.

                  When I need your advice, I will ask you for it. In the meantime, I note that you began to provoke your
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Do not remind, comrades, “all-polymer” when this people, so sincerely protected by you, lived better?

                  This is not rudeness now? So - be patient, right senka and hat.
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  I do not need to give selective statistics - when the people were poor.

                  You mixed me up with you. I gave selective statistics when it was rich :))))
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  The crisis of 2088-2009 remember? When did the dollar first jump from 30 to 35 rubles? Who created this? Putin with the team?

                  It is Putin with the team. AND?
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  About 2014 I explained. Higher.

                  Are you talking about this?
                  Quote: stalkerwalker
                  Or is it 1998, when the notorious dollar collapsed at times in one moment? Or do you not remember that the collapse of the ruble was triggered by currency speculation in the market and the failure of foreign banks to “long credit” to our enterprises?
                  You probably guess that if Crimea had “sailed” to Banderostan from the USA, we would have discussed the topic of “Internet coupons” and the price of fresh hedgehogs.

                  So these are not explanations, this is a stream of consciousness. Extremely illiterate, moreover.
                  In 1998, the fall was caused by completely different reasons - it was the bankruptcy of the state, since the gaydarochubais did not know how to work with the budget, lived on borrowings and even created a financial pyramid of internal loans.
                  The collapse of the ruble was NEVER caused by currency speculation. This is a purely Putin's invention to eliminate the budget deficit. Our companies have practically NEVER EXPRESSLY EXCLUDED the long loans of foreign banks (except for an IPO, but this is different).
                  Crimea and hedgehogs have nothing in common. Ask any hedgehog :))))) Judging by your text - he will answer you :)
        3. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 28 New
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          And what is included in the concept is better? Are there three refrigerators at home? Have three wives? Wives began to cook 20 dishes instead of miserable first, second, third? belay winked
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            I don’t serve on Mondays.
  • Sling cutter 11 November 2019 15: 16 New
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    Around "breakthroughs" and people live worse and not all-crawlers, but realists.

    We are confidently rolling into our "bright future".
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 38 New
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      Well, if one-room apartments are leading in the mortgage, then we are definitely confidently moving forward. This is because with a bad life they increase living space. And with a good buy 11 meter mansions for three lemons. But 11 squares is not the limit. There are 8 squares in Paris. Confidently catching up with Europe in terms of living! True, the Chinese ruined all the raspberries by putting up for sale apartments of 6 squares. They were quickly bought up but the shop was covered. According to Chinese laws, an apartment cannot be less than 22 squares.
  • EnGenius 11 November 2019 15: 31 New
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    Maybe people are not doing that and therefore they have a low RFP? Instead of two, five people work? No qualifications needed or no alternative companies / organizations? Maybe the country lived off living on credit with an unrealistic dollar exchange rate of about 30 rubles for ten years?
    1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 20: 41 New
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      Yeah! Absolutely right! People do not do that! Everyone needs to be oligarchs. Then everyone will live well and the country will be rich! laughing It turns out that bad people live poorly, and good people live well! bully
  • Greg Miller 11 November 2019 17: 40 New
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    Well, if on the topic, then import substitution in the conditions of preserving a market economy in Russia can begin only when the following happens:
    Russia will cease its membership in the WTO.
    Russia will severely limit cross-border capital flows.
    Russia will impose a tax on payments in offshore jurisdictions and set the rate of “import” VAT at the level of 30%, while only 20% will be allowed to the tax deduction.
    Russia will raise the level of duties on imported goods, thereby forcing importers to open production in Russia.
    Without fulfilling these 4 points, Russian import substitution will flourish only in some moronic propaganda videos such as the Russia Post.
  • Sergey39 11 November 2019 14: 10 New
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    That one could even write an article analyzing both the advantages and disadvantages of both achievements and anti-achievements in modern Russia.
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      Quote: Sergey39
      That one could even write an article analyzing both the advantages and disadvantages of both achievements and anti-achievements in modern Russia.

      You can not write about virtues at all, as long as people do not feel this. Here at least sign up if 50% of the population works only for food and clothing ..
      1. Lexus 11 November 2019 15: 52 New
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        You can not write about virtues at all, as long as people do not feel this.

        Vladimir, you are right now proposing to oblivion several directions of World literature at once. Storytellers and mythologists must now starve to death? winked
      2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 21: 12 New
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        As Putin said, there is a lot of negative in social networks. We need positive information. And from this positive information we will all begin to live better and better! Our people are still gloomy. bully He does not see positive at all and does not root for his own. But there is positive. And there is something to be proud of! bully After all, we replenish the Forbes list and increase it with the number of our successful citizens. There is a reason for pride and positive! There are rich people among Russians! And our yachts! Easily retake cruisers! What is no reason for pride! And our people are mired in envy instead of joy for successful people! We say about the Union that he could not provide people with cars. But the new Russia did it easily! True, foreigners made cars for us. But it doesn’t matter. Truth? Ours were bad anyway, but now we have good ones! After all, positive! And what was in the Union with consumer goods? Evil languages ​​say that the Union could not provide the population with consumer goods and therefore fell apart. And here a lot of commentators write about the hard life in the Union. Modern Russia has even begun to seem to produce even less consumer goods. But the goods are full! True, they are Chinese. But the positive is that there are goods! And housing. Then there were no own apartments. That was sadness! But today there is! Well, what is not positive! True, in the beginning it is in your mortgage, and you are in it on the bird's rights. And such a mortgage line pleases everyone! And how happy it is the inability to accumulate! Better to overpay with a loan. Hello to Soviet speculators! But such a positive after all makes many happy! And the lines then! Toli case now. What you need in the store is not, you need to get in line on the Internet and wait. But what is interesting. Everyone is waiting and not buzzing! That’s because people have a positive queue! Even happy with the lineup! Even satisfied with the current deficit! There is no needed battery on your phone in the store. There is no necessary detail for your household appliances. But everyone is happy with this! You can queue over the Internet or buy a new one, but more expensive through a loan. Everyone is happy for speculators and overpaying socialism branding shame. What a positive thing people do! lol laughing wassat bully no And no matter what you work for, for money or for food. The main thing is a positive look and everything is fine right away! The main thing is to submit this positive. Our media are not finalizing in the presentation of positive, they are not finalizing!
  • WIKI 11 November 2019 14: 12 New
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    Everything would be fine, but only "because of the food counter-sanctions introduced by the government in 2014, Russian consumers lose 445 billion rubles every year." And who won? "The amount of losses of citizens by 84% was redistributed in favor of Russian producers." The government again trampled on ordinary people. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4141418?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fyandex.ru%2Fnews
    1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 14: 42 New
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      but was there a choice? when we were happy in Crimea we didn’t understand that there would be losses and would it affect everyone? what a short memory that people have as I look.
      1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 14: 52 New
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        Quote: carstorm 11
        when we were happy in Crimea we didn’t understand that there would be losses and would it affect everyone?

        It was necessary to minimize them, without arranging the farces of the most expensive olympiad and mundial.
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          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Quote: carstorm 11
          when we were happy in Crimea we didn’t understand that there would be losses and would it affect everyone?

          It was necessary to minimize them, without arranging the farces of the most expensive olympiad and mundial.

          The inner circle worked very well on this ..
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            The inner circle worked very well on this ..

            I think that the word "earned" is inappropriate in this case.
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              I think that the word "earned" is inappropriate in this case.

              They are, as it were, now all "in action", or rather, in proportion.
            2. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 21: 19 New
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              Yes, yes, yes Stroporez! Not earned, but showed talent and skill! Let's look at things positively and life will get better! laughing So they looked at the world positively, and they succeeded! bully And dark glasses make life dark, unlike pink ones! lol Think you're not mad at me anymore? drinks
              1. Sling cutter 11 November 2019 21: 55 New
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                Think you're not mad at me anymore?

                I'm my shirt laughing involuntarily brother drinks
                1. SOVIET UNION 2 11 November 2019 22: 11 New
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                  Like in the song. And in this new and worthless life, you are still a battalion commander for me! drinks And rushing around looking for his fatherland, a battalion scattered throughout life! soldier
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                    Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
                    . And in this new and worthless life, you are still a battalion commander for me! And rushing around looking for his fatherland, a battalion scattered throughout life!

                    Very accurate. drinks
        2. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 15: 17 New
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          but from this logic I'm generally upset. all countries of the world are fighting to the death to get it and only here someone is dissatisfied with it)))
          1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 15: 24 New
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            Quote: carstorm 11
            all countries of the world are fighting to the death to get it and only here someone is dissatisfied with it)))

            You know, I would be pleased if the costs of these events were reasonable. At least as in Germany. But no, "our" government needs to show the whole world that they aren’t slurping soup. Moreover, at our expense, and to the detriment of other state programs.
            1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 15: 37 New
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              Well, there is such a thing) I do not argue. only this still benefits a lot. when else will we have this?) I personally received a lot of positive emotions in the year 14 whoever said anything.
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                Quote: carstorm 11
                only this still benefits a lot. when else will we have it?)

                Ponty is, Dmitry, no more. Spectacles to the detriment of bread. Spend a bunch of billions on dubious emotions, and then raise the retirement age and taxes. Top absurdity. request
      2. Revival 11 November 2019 14: 53 New
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        That is, you really do not understand, or is this work?
        "understood that there would be losses and that would affect everyone?".
        That's it, that we don’t see everyone touching!
        Where did you see that the tops and close ones touched this? Everything is reimbursed from the budget and reported from above!
        All yachts, castles ude sold out? Salaries are no longer millions per day?
        Write how it affected everyone !?
        1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 15: 19 New
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          I have no idea who is there and what gets. I clearly knew for myself that I would lose. and understood this price. I don’t have a habit of looking into other people's wallets and can only decide for myself.
          1. Revival 11 November 2019 15: 46 New
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            But I do not live as a igloo, I live in my country, and the country is its people, and I see that the money that everyone should go to develop the country and for the benefit of the people often go "wrong way" and these facts do not suit me
            1. carstorm 11 11 November 2019 16: 37 New
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              I try not to bother with this) I would have to figure it out in my life first and then think about the people.
            2. Golovan Jack 11 November 2019 21: 25 New
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              Quote: Revival
              I live not a igloo

              And who is this? belay

              Quote: Revival
              these facts do not suit me

              One smart person said:

              Lord Give me strength to change in my life that which I can change, give courage and peace of mind to accept that which is not in my power, and give me the wisdom to distinguish one from the other

              Learn the words yes
              1. Revival 12 November 2019 00: 17 New
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                About the "ringing emptiness", well, everything is as always) meaningless and merciless comments))
                1. Golovan Jack 12 November 2019 00: 25 New
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                  Quote: Revival
                  Oh "ringing emptiness", well, everything is as always

                  Which ear rings this time? Is the lawyer a non-igloist? wink

                  Quote: Revival
                  meaningless ... comment

                  That is, the feed is not in the horse. I knew request
              2. Revival 12 November 2019 19: 06 New
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                I am not indifferent to the facts of the plucking of the people, since I, as a person and a citizen, worry about ordinary people living with me in the same country, and where there is ogoism.
                I do not support your “hate” egoistic position: I would like to arrange my life, but I don’t care about others, I don’t think for them.
                And you in vain cover egoism with philosophical phrases like: "
                Lord "Give me the strength to change in my life that which I can change, give courage and peace of mind to accept that which is not in my power, and give me the wisdom to distinguish one from the other."
                1. carstorm 11 12 November 2019 19: 48 New
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                  Well, worry. who's stopping you?) but somehow I prefer to make the life of those close to me happy. and philosophical phrases are for girls from VKontakte) do not support) but I prefer to solve the problems of my family. and it works for me. which means it’s not in vain.
                  1. Revival 12 November 2019 22: 10 New
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                    "and philosophical phrases are for girls from VKontakte)."
                    That's the point.
                    That’s what I said about the Golovan, the cat, and so on.
                    But now we see for sure that not only for girls)))
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                  Quote: Revival
                  I as a person and citizen worry about ordinary people living with me in the same country

                  Well yes. It is worried. Just like those "girls on the forum" wink

                  Quote: Revival
                  and where is yoke

                  Man, are you on purpose? Just in case - the word "yoke" begins with the letter "e". Lawyer laughing

                  Quote: Revival
                  I do not support your "hate" egoistic position

                  How do you know my position? And to sculpt labels on the Internet - this is again for the "girls on the forum" request

                  The fact that you did not understand the meaning of the phrase does not surprise me (after all your “pearls”). Okay, I’ll say simpler:

                  Take it on your own, so as not to fall when walking

                  So ... buddy.
      3. WIKI 11 November 2019 17: 14 New
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        when we were happy in Crimea we didn’t understand that there would be losses and would it affect everyone?

        What affected everyone from the adversary is one thing. But when they themselves, with their own hands, their own.
  • rocket757 11 November 2019 14: 13 New
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    You can distribute it by ... time!
    At night, positive, Schaub do not toss and turn from side to side ...
    From the morning, something closer to .... preferences, objective reality. In a day he will have time to change his mind and digest!
  • Van 16 11 November 2019 14: 13 New
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    There was such a cartoon "Fairy Tale Affects" ..
  • Blacksmith 55 11 November 2019 14: 14 New
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    ... have become a manufacturer of breast-milk substitutes, ....
    Who wrote this ?
    You can make a mistake to a person who is not very literate, but a journalist is unforgivable.
  • Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 14: 19 New
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    The mention of Veropharm company on 2.53 min killed. The name of the American company is on the building.
    Abbott. And already the number of jobs finished off - as many as 40 people!
    P.S. However, what to expect from a channel called RussiaPost.su. request
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      Quote: Ingvar 72
      P.S. However, what to expect from a channel called RussiaPost.su.


      Judging by the design of the channel, these are relatives of PolitRussia. There is the same “evidence” and “analytics” of the same level. How many times do not say halva, it will not become sweeter.
  • svp67 11 November 2019 14: 20 New
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    Yes, a lot has been done, although less than we would like and it has long become clear that all this import substitution cannot be made in full without raising the general level of education. It is necessary, as a century ago, to begin with school
  • Geo⁣ 11 November 2019 14: 24 New
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    Import substitution on the march, and meanwhile, in Russia, according to official statistics, imports are growing steadily.
    Surrealism is a sign of the times.
  • Loess 11 November 2019 14: 28 New
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    There has been a tendency in the media environment when some resources publish materials exclusively saying that everything is bad in Russia - with economics, industry, education, medicine, while others present materials that tell only about Russian achievements: new plants, technologies, economic stability.
    Each action gives rise to opposition. And the theme of "all gone" really tired. You need to be more objective.
    1. Ingvar 72 11 November 2019 14: 54 New
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      Quote: Less
      You need to be more objective.

      If you constantly watch TV and do not go outside.
      1. Loess 11 November 2019 15: 46 New
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        Quote: Ingvar 72
        If you constantly watch TV

        You are a connoisseur of television, as I watch ... Personally, I can’t boast of it, and I’ve only watched the news before, and for the last few months I don’t even have time ...
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          Quote: Less
          and the last few months there’s not even time for that ...

          But on the site every day you are busy with ours. wink
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            Quote: Ingvar 72
            But on the site every day,

            Someone should also express a different point of view from you, agree?)
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              Quote: Less
              Someone should also express a different point of view from you, agree?

              That is, you are depriving yourself of watching the news in order to oppose me? belay
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                Quote: Ingvar 72
                in order to oppose me?

                You? Oppose? Do not even hope. It is not possible to conduct a dialogue with a person who has no argument other than cliches and slogans. And watching the news deprives me only of the state’s needs for the products of the enterprise I work for. Notice - industrial products of domestic production.
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                  Quote: Less
                  You? Oppose? Don't even hope

                  And then what is it? belay
                  Quote: Less
                  must express and different from your point of view
                  This is called opposition.
    2. Revival 11 November 2019 14: 56 New
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      All right.
      Not all was lost, so 80% of the most significant
  • EnGenius 11 November 2019 15: 35 New
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    In general, all strategic sectors, such as the production of drugs and vaccines, food production, and arms production should be strictly controlled by the state and produced at least 70% domestically. Yes, we spend huge amounts of money on this, which may not pay off for export in the domestic market, but this is the bottom line of survival for a large state.
  • SERGEY SERGEEVICS 11 November 2019 17: 17 New
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    A good indicator of import substitution. good
  • Keyser soze 11 November 2019 19: 06 New
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    Rosneft has completed testing of diesel hydrotreating catalysts according to the Euro-5 standard,


    But it’s nothing that Lukoil is already 7 alone, 8, how many years it has been producing diesel and gasoline in Burgas and everything is based on Euro5 ...?
  • Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 21: 20 New
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    In the industrial park, Bogorodsky began to produce
    I would like to hear on what equipment and from whose raw materials
    well, after that we can talk about "import substitution"
  • fa2998 11 November 2019 21: 46 New
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    but drive personal cars ...

    But more in Chinese, (who is richer in Japanese, German, etc.) Where do they have this import substitution? Wherever you look, everything is Chinese, from baby nipples to trucks! Russian products, which add foreign chemistry and palm oil. Yes, and Russian weapons , although there is no guarantee for the elementary base. That's all. hi
    1. Okolotochny 11 November 2019 23: 12 New
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      Give a detailed list of products with foreign chemistry. Otherwise, you are an ordinary talker.
      1. Barmaleyka 11 November 2019 23: 18 New
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        Quote: Okolotochny
        Give a detailed list of products with foreign chemistry

        yes most dairy products with vegetable fat
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    Quote: Okolotochny
    Give a detailed list of products with foreign chemistry. Otherwise, you are an ordinary talker.

    You usually read the composition, there’s a long list of all EEEE. Many are imported. Farmers (I have relatives on the ground), large farms use chemistry to grow plants, imported seeds (also processed). Do you have any idea? What do palm oil use everywhere, starting from milk to confectionery (spreads) you also do not know?
    Make a detailed list yourself, go to the online store, and rewrite in a row. hi
  • MaKeNa 12 November 2019 17: 58 New
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    The people, not the people, there’s nothing to argue about! The "nationality" of the state is determined in my opinion by the solution of 3 tasks - a child, a soldier, an old man. So look how they are solved! For a child - a demographic hole, a crisis of education and upbringing, for the treatment of children we collect money from the whole world, etc., etc. .. For a soldier, it’s better here. For the old people, full out.
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