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Impeachment will not save superpower

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An article in the Atlantic American magazine talks about a troubling situation in the United States. A great power is literally split in half, and the impeachment of Donald Trump is just the tip of the iceberg.


Distrust of the president: scandal is gaining momentum


On Sunday, November 10, famed Senator Lindsay Graham, who chairs the US Senate Judicial Committee, made an important statement. According to Graham, if the impeachment initiators do not reveal the identity of the informant who reported the telephone conversation between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky, the procedure for making no confidence in the president and removing him from his post will not be valid.



Graham is right, because if the identity of the informant is not disclosed, then it could well not have been at all. The chances of impeachment are becoming very illusory, because without real evidence against Trump, the procedure, even if approved by the House of Representatives, where the majority are Democrats, will be curtailed by the US Senate, where Republicans dominate.

Although Trump can hardly be called a figure that suits absolutely all the representatives of the elite of the Republican Party of the USA, they will not agree to “surrender” the president from the Republicans without weighty arguments. Among those witnesses who want to be interrogated, in addition to some anonymous informant, Hunter Biden and former U.S. Special Representative for Ukraine Kurt Walker appear.



Recall that Trump was suspected that he was going to remove his potential rival Joe Biden from the election race, and it was for this purpose that he allegedly asked Vladimir Zelensky to initiate an investigation against the son of a potential presidential candidate Hunter Biden. Trump wanted to investigate Hunter Biden's work in various foreign companies, including the Ukrainian energy company, where Biden was on the board of directors, as well as in a Chinese company.

In an interview with the press, Donald Trump even turned to Ukraine and China with a proposal to intervene in the situation and investigate the role that Hunter Biden plays in the economy of these states. Naturally, such actions by Trump were a serious blow to the positions of Joe Biden, the 77-year-old Democrat, former vice president of the Barack Obama administration.

The true causes of impeachment


But история with Hunter Biden, for all its seriousness, is by no means a genuine excuse for initiating the resignation of the American president. The American elites are very dissatisfied with the policies of Donald Trump and, above all, his foreign policy, which led to a total change in the world political and economic situation.

In Washington, they “present” Trump with the fact that, firstly, he weakened the position of the United States and actually lost the Middle East, losing it to Russia. The withdrawal of American troops from Syria, the invasion of the Turkish army in areas controlled by the Syrian Kurds, the multiple strengthening of Russia's positions not only in Syrian, but also in Middle Eastern politics as a whole - are all these arguments, Trump's opponents ask, are not sufficient for his resignation?

Trump is blamed for the fact that Russia did not just take the palm in the Middle East - it has become almost the only major player in Middle Eastern politics. Now everyone is listening to Moscow - Turkey and Iran, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, Syria and the Kurds. Almost the entire region reoriented towards cooperation with Russia, which gave Moscow the opportunity to become a key arbiter. And now Russia, and not the USA, is breeding the parties to the conflict in different directions - the former American proteges of the Syrian Kurds and the US official NATO ally Turkey. How could such a thing be imagined in the very recent past, when the USA was the key partner for all countries of the region, except Iran and Syria?



For the United States, the loss of the Middle East threatens with very serious changes in its political role throughout the world. Indeed, for more than half a century, it was the Middle East direction that has been one of the most important in American foreign policy and Washington has made tremendous efforts to counter the penetration of the Soviet Union and Russia into the Middle East. Now, according to Trump's opponents, all these efforts have been in vain, since America left the region and allowed Russia to build good relations even with its own allies.

Another reason for dissatisfaction with Trump is the situation in Ukraine. Before Trump came to power, everything turned out relatively well for the United States. In Kiev, "on the throne" Petro Poroshenko, surrounded by rabid Russophobes, nobody was going to resolve the conflict in the Donbass peacefully.

Now Ukraine is more and more demonstrating its readiness for change: it is clear that it is impossible to live the way the Ukrainian state lives now, and with all the odiousness of Zelensky, he will still be more adequate than his predecessor. The American press criticizes Trump, accusing him of weakening Ukraine. After all, the president is curtailing aid to Kiev, and this is fraught, again, with the strengthening of Russia's positions.

Finally, not everyone is happy with the trade wars unleashed by the Trump administration. After all, the financial interests of a significant part of the American establishment were tied to strong economic ties with China and the European Union, and these representatives of the American elite did not want to give up their money or even reduce their amount.

America is split in half


But even if Trump is removed from the presidency, this will hardly change the general political situation in the United States. America is split in half and the two halves hate each other. One pole is “good old America,” or rather, what is left of it. They are adherents of the values ​​of the free market, the affirmation of American political and economic power throughout the world. These people believe that the White Anglo-Saxons built America, at the worst - European immigrants, and it is they who are called to decide the present and future of the American state.

Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina - this is not a complete list of states in which the decision to remove Donald Trump will be taken very negatively. After all, there were certain hopes associated with the current head of state.

The second half of America, the second pole - adherents of the left-liberal values ​​that today vote for the Democrats. These are convinced left-wing liberals, and African-Americans, and immigrants from Asian countries, and the "progressive public" in the face of feminists, sexual and other minorities, environmental extremists. In the last election, they supported Hillary Clinton, a human rights advocate who yelped with joy at watching the shots of the brutal massacre of 70-year-old Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi.



In this election, the Democratic candidate is Joe Biden. It is his removal from the election that Donald Trump is trying to achieve. But if Biden is removed, then Senator Elizabeth Warren will be the main Democratic candidate. This seventy-year-old lady is an ardent supporter of the left, environmental wing of the Democrats. And she has already indicated that in case of victory in the elections, the first thing to introduce is a moratorium on any new development of oil fields.

In addition, Warren promises to ban fracking, that is, the production of shale oil. Today it gives 70% of all US revenue. And you can imagine what the consequences of the US economy decision to ban fracking will lead to.

That is, the United States, the victory of Warren in the election, can expect even more massive upheaval than today. Even if Warren is not really as radical as on Twitter, this does not mean that she will not begin any reforms aimed at weakening oil production and, accordingly, undermining the economic base of the modern USA.



People who understand this are afraid of the victory of the Democrats more than fire. But no fewer Americans, by contrast, sincerely applaud such statements by democratic leaders. And the clash of Democrats and Republicans is inevitable, whether or not Warren or Biden are candidates, Trump to resign or not to leave.

Two parts of the American political field cannot come to consensus and, it seems, can never. Temporary compromises are possible, but even with very large reservations. America, which once seemed united and invincible, is bursting at the seams and the reason for this is the very social structure of American society.

“Corporate slaves” - the middle class, the patriarchal inhabitants of the American hinterland, various leftists and freaks, the poor and criminalized inhabitants of the ghettos of large cities - African Americans and Latin Americans, immigrants from Asia, forgotten Indians reservations. All of this is America, all of this is Americans. And how to find common tasks, common interests of so different people living in completely different conditions. Someone gets a job at Google, and someone doesn’t even know how to read and write - social polarization in the USA is enormous.

Liberals like to compare Russia and the United States, but our country has not yet dreamed of the level of polarization that exists in the United States. The apparent external prosperity of the American empire is largely built on the foundation of unresolved internal social and economic problems. And Donald Trump, unlike many other representatives of the American establishment, perfectly understands the complexity of American life, but what can he do?

If we talk about the further development of events, it will certainly look like this: first, the democratic majority of the House of Representatives will support the impeachment of Trump, but then the Republican Senate will reject it. Then the American political system will finally plunge into crisis, since no reasonable solution to the current situation is visible. And it simply does not exist. Everyone will remain in their own opinion, and it is possible to obey the majority only when it really is the majority, and does not have a superiority of several percent.

Russia and China can only watch and enjoy. And support anyone - Trump vs. Biden and Warren vs. Trump, Democrats and Republicans. The crazier the initiatives of presidential candidates, the more disruptive their potential, the better for US rivals in international politics.
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  1. Far B
    Far B 12 November 2019 04: 59
    +3
    Impeachment will not save superpower
    Straight nostalgia:
    - Five hundred rubles can save the father of Russian democracy. “Tell me,” Kislyarsky asked plaintively, “and two hundred rubles cannot save the giant of thought?”

    Yet again
    America is split in half and
    became lazy on ...?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 November 2019 05: 43
      +5
      Quote: Dalny V
      became lazy on ...?
      No, I didn’t. They had a lot of such political scandals in history. It is enough to recall what Nixon finished. Or Kennedy. And besides them, everything happened.
      1. Far B
        Far B 12 November 2019 05: 47
        +2
        I'm talking about a quote))) It was on Fomenko's Russian Radio - Life gave a crack and became like ...
        They really have something in common.
        And Nixon, by the way, quite well finished. Unlike Kennedy.
      2. dzvero
        dzvero 12 November 2019 06: 30
        +8
        There were scandals, but there was no way for the persecution of the new president to continue for the entire first term and smoothly flow into the election race. The author is right - the deep processes (characteristic of any state) are ripped out; go out. Otherwise, Trump's "chaotic" actions cannot be explained.
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 12 November 2019 08: 38
          -1
          Trump is an upstart ... And the US elites are good at dealing with these upstarts. If impeachment doesn't help, they'll call in some "Lee Harvey Oswald" ...
          1. dzvero
            dzvero 12 November 2019 08: 49
            +2
            Yes, Trump is an unexpected president. But there are such candidates at the beginning of every race. The difference is that Trump has managed to "pop out" from the Republican Party. It’s like a non-partisan chairman of the Council of Ministers in the USSR. Its advance is an indication that the Elites have split and there are "tectonic" shifts. Whose will we see at the upcoming elections.
          2. your1970
            your1970 12 November 2019 21: 49
            0
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Trump is an upstart ... And the US elites are good at dealing with these upstarts. If impeachment doesn't help, they'll call in some "Lee Harvey Oswald" ...
            - Don’t you find that the elections are already too late on the nose?
          3. Alexey LK
            Alexey LK 14 November 2019 05: 15
            +2
            Quote: Greg Miller
            Trump upstart

            Come on, upstart! You also say "lone weirdo". This does not happen, without a serious support team in the states they do not become presidents, even if you are a billionaire, even a movie star. Another thing is that many people have "insurmountable differences" with him and his team.
          4. l7yzo
            l7yzo 7 January 2021 08: 56
            0
            This is not an upstart, this is a group that Trump represents. The forces he opposes are old and they don't want to change. Vaughn Pence betrayed him, the chief justices betrayed him (most of the Republicans are there). In general, do you understand what forces are playing there now?
            Now there is a change in the paradigm of the development of the Earth and people on it. And 2020 has just begun to reveal all the ins and outs of the authorities and their actions. As they say, buckle up - you will soon see and hear so much truth and you are unlikely to be happy about it, there is so much dirt, lies and deceit - that I can wish you a sound mind and a solid memory.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 12 November 2019 18: 09
          +1
          Quote: dzvero
          The author is right - the deep processes (characteristic of any state) are ripped out; go out. Otherwise, Trump's "chaotic" actions cannot be explained.

          IMHO, Trump is a successful businessman, but after taking the presidency, he went against the ruling "swamp" and acquired a bunch of enemies ready to tear him apart for all the good and bad that he declared and implemented during his presidency. And Trump's opponents do not disdain anything in their deeds - neither bribing "witnesses", nor threats, nor filth in the media.

          Yes, you're heavy Lincoln's helmet.
      3. Ezekiel 25-17
        Ezekiel 25-17 12 November 2019 07: 06
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Quote: Dalny V
        became lazy on ...?
        No, I didn’t. They had a lot of such political scandals in history. It is enough to recall what Nixon finished. Or Kennedy. And besides them, everything happened.

        For all the similarities is not true. Under Nixon, the United States did not have the economic problems that are present now. There was no such antagonism between industrial capital focused on production in the USA and financial corporations that have no homeland internationally.
        1. tesser
          tesser 12 November 2019 11: 54
          -4
          Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
          Under Nixon, the United States did not have the economic problems that are present now.

          Seriously? And in the sense was not, and in the sense is now?
          Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
          US-oriented industrial capital and financial corporations

          Did Murid subtract it? Is this not the same industrial capital that this production with songs has been producing for about 50 years?
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 12 November 2019 21: 56
          0
          Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
          There was no such antagonism between industrial capital focused on production in the USA and financial corporations that have no homeland internationally.

          hi
          And, perhaps, there was no such boorish attitude towards the rival for the presidency.
        3. boni592807
          boni592807 14 November 2019 22: 30
          0
          Probably not only that.
          There are problems - national, migration. But the problems were overripe and without it were explosive.
          Look who, for which of the candidates, in the election, when they chose Trump. What kind of America was Trump ?! hi
    2. Civil
      Civil 12 November 2019 09: 14
      +1
      A great option, this red-haired businessman, like all speculators, first of all, he got water)))
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 12 November 2019 18: 30
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        A great option, this red-haired businessman, like all speculators, first of all, got the water

        hi
        In a flock of geese, only ha-ha-ha should be pronounced; try to grunt or meow, they will tear, which is what happened to the businessman-showman Trump.
  2. Far B
    Far B 12 November 2019 05: 16
    0
    But with this statement of the author it is difficult to agree:
    but our country has not yet dreamed of the level of polarization that exists in the United States.
    In what place did he not dream? Such statements, in general, it is advisable to do with numbers in hand.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 November 2019 05: 49
      +1
      Our president never even went to debate, so God forbid his rating would not be spoiled. Instead, they regularly organize PR actions like "the president dives, swims, flies, feeds the animals, hunts, fishes" and builds a kind of personality cult. This is exactly what the United States does not have, their president is constantly under an avalanche of criticism from the opposition and the media.
      1. Sasha ___
        Sasha ___ 12 November 2019 06: 38
        +3
        Well, in general, you are right about the opposition, but about the media - everything is more complicated. Major media companies CNN, ABC, NBC, etc. Trump is wet, and Obama is still loved. Well, that is, roughly how our media practice the party line. But in general, of course, it is incomparable with Russian realities
    2. Sasha ___
      Sasha ___ 12 November 2019 07: 13
      +1
      I wrote there below, for example, videos like meeting those who participated in a rally in support of the trump
      In principle, you can google and harder. Add to this the constant anti-tram hysteria in the media, numerous calls in small media and social media to beat the supporters of trump - this is not at all funny. If we say by ignorance to come to NY with a hat Make america great again - the chances of raking are close to 100%. in general, the situation is really tense
  3. Sergey39
    Sergey39 12 November 2019 05: 18
    -1
    "Russia and China can only watch and rejoice."
    And wait for the dollar bubble to burst.
    1. Chit
      Chit 12 November 2019 09: 40
      -10
      Yes ...
      How similar it is to what I have heard all my conscious life!
      The collapse of capitalism is inevitable!
      A little more - and America kaput! She has a huge debt! She will fall apart!
      So far, I have only watched the collapse of the Soviet Union ...
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 12 November 2019 13: 46
        0
        And I watched the collapse of all empires that existed before that.
        1. Chit
          Chit 12 November 2019 17: 41
          -11
          I envy your longevity.
          I’m out of luck. I watched the collapse of only one empire - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Which for some reason did not help to survive either the only true teaching, or two faithful, included in the proverbial ally.
          1. Lena Petrova
            Lena Petrova 12 November 2019 19: 03
            +2
            I also have not seen much in my life, but this is not an indication that this is not much. It happens that processes are stretched in time much more than human life, others, on the contrary, are fleeting. It is not necessary to think that the states are some kind of eternal, true substance.
            A simple example — their entire defense budget — is borrowed. Those. - live beyond their means, and such a habit is always harmful in life. The only question is time.
          2. your1970
            your1970 12 November 2019 21: 53
            +1
            The collapse of the UK did not find what? here they really were an empire and everything, bye ... no colonies, no power .... even the grandmothers of the EU cannot be beaten out for Brexit ....
        2. d ^ Amir
          d ^ Amir 13 November 2019 19: 19
          0
          enviable longevity !!!! good
      2. Alex Fox
        Alex Fox 16 November 2019 12: 30
        -2
        The main thing is to sniff louder
  4. fa2998
    fa2998 12 November 2019 05: 30
    0
    Quote: Sergey39
    "Russia and China can only watch and rejoice."
    And wait for the dollar bubble to burst.

    Well, China can still rejoice. Its economy is developing and powerful. It is true that there are a lot of investments in the dollar, and China sends a considerable part of its exports to the United States. Does Russia have something in this row? hi
    1. Sergey39
      Sergey39 12 November 2019 13: 44
      0
      What else remains?
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 November 2019 05: 31
    +1
    With trump they can do just like with Kennedy, so the problem of an objectionable leader in power is solved much faster.
    1. Ezekiel 25-17
      Ezekiel 25-17 12 November 2019 07: 21
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      With trump they can do just like with Kennedy, so the problem of an objectionable leader in power is solved much faster.

      No, it will not be solved: the economic problems that he is trying to solve will remain.
  6. parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2019 05: 35
    +2
    It’s clear, not today, tomorrow, the USA smile
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 12 November 2019 05: 51
      +2
      How, again? belay Please tell me the exact date, otherwise we’ve been waiting for 60 years, but still.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 12 November 2019 06: 20
        +9
        Yes, I’m already waiting, I won’t wait laughing everyone writes, they write here, here ... the volcano will explode, the dollar bubble will burst, now here in the article are new forecasts with a cord, if there one of the Republicans wins .... laughing
        1. shinobi
          shinobi 12 November 2019 06: 32
          +2
          laughing Everything is the same for us.
      2. shinobi
        shinobi 12 November 2019 06: 31
        +3
        And the exact date is not and never will be, the process itself has dragged on for 50-70 years, and it began somewhere in the late 80s and early 90s.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 12 November 2019 14: 16
          +2
          Uhs. We have over 5 Gorbachev years (well, the next 30 years) been enough to drain the economy and the achievements of several generations into the toilet.
  7. shinobi
    shinobi 12 November 2019 05: 48
    +1
    The US problem in their very system of existence, as a result, will repeat the fate of their almater in Great Britain, having turned from a world hegemon into an ordinary regional state that has little effect.
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 12 November 2019 06: 21
      +3
      Great Britain is a black cardinal ... do not write this crap anymore.
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 12 November 2019 06: 25
        +1
        Open the history book, wise guy. Black cardinal, huh. Mania of greatness is, no more
        1. The popuas
          The popuas 12 November 2019 08: 58
          -1
          And what! What will the history book give me !? The financial center in England, everything is controlled from there ... I did not write, gray, because it's black ... wise guy hi
          1. shinobi
            shinobi 12 November 2019 11: 29
            -1
            The financial center in england ?! belay Oh how.
            1. The popuas
              The popuas 12 November 2019 17: 25
              0
              England steers everyone, do not forget my friend. The United States is a power wing! If the GDP said they will hit the centers, then first of all, it will be London.
  8. Durman_54
    Durman_54 12 November 2019 05: 55
    +2
    Oh, decays again.
  9. demo
    demo 12 November 2019 06: 24
    0
    Russia and China can only watch and enjoy.
    This is the most important thing.
    The joy that your "sworn friend" will follow the path that you have passed through his fault.
    "Don't dig a hole for another. You can fall into it yourself."
  10. Sasha ___
    Sasha ___ 12 November 2019 07: 03
    +2
    In many ways, you can agree with the author. Contradictions and schism in society are present here in a volume far exceeding the level of political preferences. For example, in order to better imagine the realities - after a rally in support of the trump, the leftists recently caught diverging supporters and stupidly beaten (another word would have come up, but they could ban it). The police look at it through their sleeves. The same thing with Trump in NY - they investigate everything that they can find about him taxes, business, charity - all that is possible. Even according to our Russian concepts, this is an abuse of authority. Well, that is, society is divided into 2 camps and any means are good against opponents. All this exacerbates the situation and contributes to a further split. Well, it’s difficult to talk about the effectiveness of the political system under such conditions - Congress cannot sign a new trade agreement that is more favorable for the United States as soon as 2 years (either to the peak of Trump, or simply not interesting). But here are the passages a la newspaper is true
    The criminalized ghetto inhabitants of large cities - African-Americans and Hispanics, immigrants from Asia
    - the author would be better left with him. With this level of generalization, only editorials in the newspaper tomorrow write
  11. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 12 November 2019 07: 10
    +1
    From forelocks there are only problems. And the fool-Zelensky and the Democrats and Republicans-tear.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 12 November 2019 07: 16
    +4
    In principle, the bodyaga is entertaining .... Trump will step over everyone, not very much straining!
    Here the voters / the population was divided more aggressively than usual, this is really unusual, for an "established dermocracy" ... he stirred up their swamp not childishly!
    However, according to the statement of many of their own talkers of political scientists - analysts, competitors for the next term of presidency, Trump is not yet observed !!!
    However, there is always time / possibility that some kind of figure will shoot from around the corner ... although rarely, it happens.
  13. Million
    Million 12 November 2019 07: 45
    +9
    Right now, Putin will give up the dollar and America will have kirdyk! And we will trample on the economy: factories and factories will earn money, releasing new high-tech products, the retirement age will decrease, people will begin to live better and happier. Russian oligarchs will invest money in Russia, and not export for The former Soviet republics will want to join Russia en masse even on unfavorable conditions. What’s there: Europe wants to join Russia! China will join the Russian Federation as an autonomous region, and Japan itself will give Russia several of its islands without ozmezdno, as a sign of goodwill
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 12 November 2019 09: 06
      -8
      The economy will work when, instead of work, they stop whining en masse on the Internet.
      And they’ll go to work.
      This will seem strange to many, even wild. How is it - work. After all, everyone should give, and the retirement age should be from 25 years.
      But alas, there is no other way. Only work on our own.
      1. Million
        Million 12 November 2019 09: 12
        +8
        Of course, no one works in Russia, now right up to 65 years
        1. Ronald Reagan
          Ronald Reagan 12 November 2019 18: 52
          -3
          And what is it in 65 years? Now you can work at a more mature age.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 12 November 2019 11: 35
        +4
        Quote: Mestny
        The economy will work when, instead of work, they stop whining en masse on the Internet.
        And they’ll go to work.

        The problem is not in work, but in a normal salary. And the stratification proceeding from this problem is divided into the rich and the poor. And stratification in Russia according to various criteria is no less than in the USA ... and maybe more.
        As long as there is no justice in the country, there will always be a risk of civil war. At the moment, power in Russia has completely lost its scent and sense of reality. For what it will pay sooner or later. When ordinary people begin to hate the state apparatus and representatives of power at all levels, then they lose power legitimacy in the eyes of people. No one will defend the hated. Well, then it just depends on who takes advantage of the successful situation, good or bad ...
    2. Antares
      Antares 12 November 2019 09: 07
      +5
      Quote: Million
      Right now, Putin will give up the dollar and America will have kirdyk! And we will trample on the economy: factories and factories will earn money, releasing new high-tech products, the retirement age will decrease, people will begin to live better and happier. Russian oligarchs will invest money in Russia, and not export for The former Soviet republics will want to join Russia en masse even on unfavorable conditions. What’s there: Europe wants to join Russia! China will join the Russian Federation as an autonomous region, and Japan itself will give Russia several of its islands without ozmezdno, as a sign of goodwill

      just need a little more patience
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 12 November 2019 09: 15
      +4
      Quote: Million
      China will become part of the Russian Federation in the form of an autonomous region, and Japan itself will give Russia several of its islands, free of charge, as a sign of goodwill

      good You forgot about Alaska that it will hold a referendum and enter the Russian Federation. drinks
      1. Million
        Million 12 November 2019 09: 16
        +5
        Of course, in America they will have nothing to catch! wink
      2. tesser
        tesser 12 November 2019 12: 00
        -1
        Quote: Stroporez
        You forgot about Alaska that she will hold a referendum and enter the Russian Federation

        What about California? They pretend to be South Alaska. Are we going to take the load, or let them first expel all of these, rainbow-colored, to Mexico?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 12 November 2019 12: 18
          +1
          Quote: tesser
          What about California? They pretend to be South Alaska. Are we going to take the load, or let them first expel all of these, rainbow-colored, to Mexico?

          We take everything in bulk, except for Yellowstone, otherwise it doesn’t take an hour.
    4. Charik
      Charik 12 November 2019 15: 13
      +2
      Well, well, Moscow will be renamed Staryi-Vasyuki and Vasyuki in NEW-Moscow
  14. Basarev
    Basarev 12 November 2019 08: 47
    +3
    Russia and China can only watch and enjoy.

    Russia and China would be the other way around - by all means supporting Trump and his steps towards strengthening the unity of society, cementing America. Indeed, if the States collapse, it will burn. So that the collapse of the Union will seem boring. If during the collapse of the USSR, the matter was limited to a bloody, but rather small-town dispute within the post-Soviet space, then with the fall of the USA, chaos will be planetary. Everywhere is solid Tajikistan and Osh, you just can’t imagine how much fire and blood will be. I always said: those who dream of the collapse of the United States are bloodthirsty madmen. But there are a lot of such people at VO.
  15. Nitarius
    Nitarius 12 November 2019 09: 30
    +1
    The United States is turning into a country of the insane! they say the same ... when the gentlemen wants to be deprived of reason .. so here!
  16. BAI
    BAI 12 November 2019 17: 10
    0
    Warren promises to ban fracking, that is, the production of shale oil.

    So this is "our" candidate. We must support it in every possible way.
  17. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 12 November 2019 17: 39
    0
    Clintons against Warren will be thinner. "For" Warren!
  18. NF68
    NF68 12 November 2019 18: 39
    0
    Let's see where all this will lead. The United States has already been "buried" many times, but the United States is still not living very badly at the expense of almost the entire world and it is not yet known how long this will continue.
  19. the same doctor
    the same doctor 13 November 2019 10: 55
    +2
    Trump ran ahead in his politics: the global crisis has not yet ripened to the need for US authorship. It is too early for the financial elite to flee from the crisis; not all the opportunities to milk the world have been used up yet.
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    The cause of the crisis by Trump's policy is also not being eliminated. Exhaustion of world resources requires stopping the growth of population and consumption around the world. Inevitably, the division into industrial centers with a high level of consumption and agricultural semi-natural periphery with a low. It will be possible to deter this periphery from the development and growth of consumption only by military-political methods. But Trump does not cope with the task of lowering three quarters of the world.
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    Trump's mistake (as well as Truman in 1945) is that he is trying to leave the only center of power - the States. To do this, it is necessary to suppress all other centers in sequence. Transfer in turn. The primary goal is chosen - Russia. But in order to destroy Russia in 1945, it was necessary to develop Europe, Japan, and Korea. Russia was not destroyed, but three additional centers appeared. Further competition with the USSR. Both countries are actively developing the economy of their satellites. Cherry on the cake - China. The policy of confrontation with Russia has exhausted itself, even its destruction means that we must fight with the next center of power of no less power. Bottom line: where Truman and Stalin could divide the world into two, now we need to divide it into 6-8 parts.
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    The way out of the current global crisis: a new colonial division of the world, where the 5 great powers pledge to stop the growth of the population, consumption and economies in their destinies. The condition is mutual non-aggression, peacefulness and non-interference, so as not to provoke an arms race and industrial production, in order to avoid mutual competition before the natives. Yes, the world is dull: socialist governments, poor soldering, impossibility of growth, class restrictions throughout the Earth. And wealth, prosperity, culture, science in the centers. But not with our capabilities to protest against the course of history. While we still cannot be forced to limit ourselves to us by military-political methods - to begin reindustrialization. Our task is to become one of such prosperous centers ourselves, to snatch our piece. Not up to trifles now.
  20. bzbo
    bzbo 19 November 2019 00: 30
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    Who needs a Middle East without oil? Only for camels)))