Training for combat professions in “flying” universities opens for girls-cadets

It became known that for girls-cadets who are studying at universities of the air force, they decided to expand the curriculum. The point is that now the fair sex cadets will be able to receive a military education, associated not only with the skills of transport pilots aviation. Until recently, transport aviation was considered the only possible option for training girls in military universities of the Russian Aerospace Forces system.




Now, female cadets have the opportunity to receive military aviation specialties. This was reported by TASS news agency with reference to the head of the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School of pilots Sergei Rumyantsev.

According to the head of KVVAUL, the training of girls in the directional programs of fighter, bomber and attack aircraft began at a military university.

According to the latest information, at the moment, the possibility of training in military specialties at the university is being considered with respect to the 9 girls-cadets who wrote the relevant statements.

Sergey Rumyantsev:

There is a deeper physical and psychological examination, certain testing. I think that the nine girls who expressed a desire will continue to be trained to fly airplanes of modern fighter-assault aircraft.


The set for girls in the "flying" universities of the Ministry of Defense was opened by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. It happened in the year 2017. Then, in a direct line with the president, the girls spoke out that they wanted to receive a flying specialty in combat direction. Apparently, this desire found a response.
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  1. Observer2014 10 November 2019 17: 58 New
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    Gymnasts clearly out of fashion laughingThe time has come for the daughters to attach. This decision is right here so necessary to increase the country's defense capability. negative
    1. AU Ivanov. 10 November 2019 18: 03 New
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      Daughters in fighter jets? The dream of any oligarch.
      1. Volodin 10 November 2019 18: 11 New
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        Quote: AU Ivanov.
        Daughters in fighter jets? The dream of any oligarch.

        Still, there are people who have been affected by the abnormally warm November. "Observer" among them ... Daughters you know who - the pilot of the Su-25 attack aircraft and the Su-24 bomber somewhere in the sky over Syria ... belay
        1. Thrifty 10 November 2019 18: 22 New
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          Volodin hi people forgot history, forgot the Great Patriotic War, forgot women in military aviation. ..bad it is that such amnesia for many suddenly manifested itself sharply. ..
          1. Observer2014 10 November 2019 18: 32 New
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            Quote: Thrifty
            Volodin hi people forgot history, forgot the Great Patriotic War, forgot women in military aviation. ..bad it is that such amnesia for many suddenly manifested itself sharply. ..

            Yeah. "Corncrackers." Night witches hiDo not confuse soft and warm. .Romance So they’re overloading things. They won’t get pregnant. Will unborn children be killed by abortion right away. Or will pregnant women get unloading suits for pregnant women? In general, it’s a super business project. Unlearn. Give three children. Retire by forty. laughing A bunch of anniversary medals. Telecasts! And any such garbage. And yet! You can fly into space for a week yes laughing Let's leave all the nonsense. For the best. More cloudless times.
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              1. Observer2014 10 November 2019 18: 41 New
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                Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
                And at this time in the Ulyanovsk Civil Aviation School of Flight ...
                It is in civil aviation am And then about the military. angry
            2. Thrifty 10 November 2019 18: 41 New
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              Observer 2014 is that a banter like that? They didn’t die with the planes, didn’t fight along with the men? Is war a romance? You wrote frank stupidity And for children, give birth if you can manage the same triple, and, single-handedly bring them to people. ..see how you will sing after this. ..
              1. Observer2014 10 November 2019 18: 51 New
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                ThriftyIs that a banter?
                In Russia, it’s full of more important matters for women now, like war. Having children. This is in our country, compare the front. Our pit is demographic. Give our women a better, more decent life. We will offer something to fight.
                1. Tatyana 11 November 2019 00: 05 New
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                  Feminists on 2 combat flights! Just reading about their whim is disgusting!
                  And the idiocy of the Russian leadership is off the charts!
              2. akarfoxhound 10 November 2019 19: 27 New
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                Lydia Litvyak, yes, she was a good pilot in her Yak. But this is war, and today is peacetime. Do not confuse the sweet with the warm, the women in the fighter have nothing to do. Sveta-kerosene in Borisoglebsk flew in the mid-90s (there was a very criminal creation) on the Mig-29, barely got rid of it. Today I piloted normally in the zone, I nearly killed myself on the next shift. Why? Yes, her mood is not right in the morning, women's emotions. Then again it’s normal, then the days are “red”, then some more whim in the head. And the commander's eye twitches ... Now the young lady in Aeroflot rolls passengers. Let him ride there! Do not interfere with patriotism with extreme necessity and today.
                1. sid20003 20 November 2019 18: 30 New
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                  To whom you say, here a good half in the army did not serve, they only philosophize
            3. rich 10 November 2019 18: 54 New
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              At the moment, the possibility of training in military specialties at the university is being considered with respect to 9 female students who have written the relevant statements.

              Currently, 16 female cadets are undergoing training at KVVAUL. Nine of them wrote relevant statements. There is something to be proud of


              1. sergand53 10 November 2019 19: 39 New
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                There is something to be proud of, but better not!
                1. 210ox 10 November 2019 20: 07 New
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                  It would be better if another flying university was opened .. At least ..
                2. rich 10 November 2019 20: 43 New
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                  Sergei hi
                  Stalin's "Firebird" Hero of the Russian Federation Yekaterina Budanova, who destroyed 11 fascist airplanes - the USSR champion in aerobatics in 1938, and in 1940, the champion of the Air Force championship of the Red Army in 1939 was a bad pilot and instructor? Even stingy to the praise of ch. Air Marshal Golovanov in his memoirs wrote that "E.V Budanova will forever remain in the history of Russian aviation as a competent instructor, the best pilot of the Red Army Air Force — a woman and a fearless ace fighter."
                  She had everything — fame, honor, fame, not dusty work — she protected the cars and railway movements of the father of nations from the air. 100% reservation. Why was she so eager for the front? So she had an incentive!
                  So why do you refuse the girls-cadets this incentive, because they are not going to become managers in the bank, but to serve the Motherland
                  1. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 15: 50 New
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                    Ekaterina Budanova, who destroyed 11 ----- they forgot to mention in vain that Katya earned these 11 being in the 72th Guards and Aviation Administration being a slave and the leader always shared with the slave, but being in the 586 female IAP was not successful. reckoned to him and died, now about 586, out of 30 victories of 586 regiment, about 60 Yak-1B vehicles were lost, Kazarin’s regiment was removed from office, or rather due to illness, nevertheless, if you are already committed to femen you should know the truth, not cheer-femenpatriotism
              2. loki565 10 November 2019 20: 19 New
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                Yeah, many talented girls serve.

              3. Chit 10 November 2019 20: 48 New
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                And why is this necessary, let me ask? Who needs this?
                Is Russia at war? Are men over in Russia? What is the need for this?
                Russia is waging a constant war, like Israel?
                Russia has so many combat aircraft that there are not enough male pilots for them?
                An elderly woman is not needed there. How the overload experienced by the young woman’s health and her fertility is not known. So why take the risk? Or is the demographic situation in Russia beautiful? So it seems the other day the Accounts Chamber said something completely opposite.
                When I read such news, I get the feeling that I'm in the theater of the absurd.
                What for???
                For what???
                1. Hiller 10 November 2019 21: 01 New
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                  No one forbids to take an interest. Necessity is the realization of this girl’s dream .. There is a dream, there is health, a desire to serve the country. Chop her everything in the bud ??? Just because. what is her causal place different ??? Kinder, kyuchen, kirchen ??? Ask Svetlana Savitskaya or Valentina Tereshkova .. The envy of these girls will be envied by the men ... and their example is good for the science and the Fatherland. IMHO
                  1. Chit 10 November 2019 21: 34 New
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                    You do not understand why they launched Tereshkova? Need to clarify that the prestige of the USSR was at stake? The first female astronaut and all that jazz? Yes, you will familiarize yourself with the words of the Queen after this experiment. With which he ... well, it’s better to remain silent.
                    Does a woman have a better reaction? Get the opinion of any driver on this subject.
                    Does a woman have better physical stamina? How does this compare with our theory that in response to bourgeois invisibility we will respond with increased maneuverability? We're proud of her, right?
                    Will a woman be better able to tolerate overload in extreme environments?
                    What is the use of a female fighter in the Russian Aerospace Forces if a man does the same job an order of magnitude better?
                    Again the prestige of the country?
                    Why and who needs it?
                    The work of a military pilot is a physically and psychologically difficult job. So why initially introduce an element of risk into it?
                    Do we have men over? Now is 1941?
                    A woman wants to serve the Motherland - please. Directions - mass. Everyone can choose according to preferences and physical abilities.
                    But why bring the situation to the point of absurdity?
                    1. Town Hall 11 November 2019 00: 01 New
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                      Quote: Chit
                      But why bring the situation to the point of absurdity?

                      Tell this to Svetlana Kapanina. You and 1% are not able to do what she does in the air
                      https://youtu.be/rizNVbU7McA
                      1. Mordvin 3 11 November 2019 00: 24 New
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                        Quote: Town Hall
                        Tell this to Svetlana Kapanina. You and 1% are not able to do what she does in the air

                        Svetlana Kapanina, seven-time absolute champion in aircraft sports, a pilot instructor of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, believes that women in military aviation have nothing to do.
                        “Women, of course, can engage in occupations that are considered masculine. But women are created for peace, the birth of children, but not for war. As for the military professions, I am categorically opposed to women engaged in them, - said Kapanina in an interview with the newspaper VIEW. - There are many civilian aircraft that women can master, and the military? No need to do it for them. ”

                        http://admin.vz.ru/politics/2017/8/14/882714.html
                      2. Town Hall 11 November 2019 00: 32 New
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                        So what? The conversation is on whether women can physically meet the requirements for the pilot. Her example, and hundreds of others, proves that they can without problems. She is against the military "activity" - this is her moral position, worthy of respect. Like the position of other women who
                      3. Mordvin 3 11 November 2019 00: 50 New
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                        Quote: Town Hall
                        . Her example, and hundreds of others, proves that they can without problems.

                        And here it is necessary to ask doctors.
                        In addition, Kapanina, as I understand it, flies only on sports airplanes.
                  2. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 15: 57 New
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                    Tell this to Svetlana Kapanina. You and 1% ... are mistaken, Svetun drives sports Su-26s with overload in individual maneuvers no more than 4J, but how about long 9-10Z ???? and why, for example, I need 1% when to play her with MANPADS is not a problem
                2. Varyag71 11 November 2019 08: 32 New
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                  Yes, and so it is clear whose mostly daughters are there. With ordinary people, I think no more than 1 percent, and then for averting eyes ..
                3. Hiller 11 November 2019 22: 32 New
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                  Do not reduce the discussion to primitive physiology. We are not talking about any absurdity here. It's about a dream !!! The girl wants to serve the motherland as a pilot. Give the chance to fulfill the dream - the task of the state! No one speaks of hundreds of female pilots. There will not be so many comers. And even if there will be, the issues of professional suitability will be determined by specialists. But Chance must be a must. Will a man do better ??? It is indisputable in most cases, but ... ALWAYS there is a Woman who will prove that she can do even better. And this is also prestige, as you yourself have noticed. You can recall Raskov, Grizodubov, Polyakov, Litvyak ... And from personal experience I can tell you that in stressful situations, some women are superior to men .. IMHO.
              4. Varyag71 11 November 2019 08: 30 New
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                Tereshkova used to be pride, but now another cheer is a patriot who is in power and adopts anti-people laws.
            4. YOUR 11 November 2019 03: 26 New
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              Once upon a time, when I was studying, our commander yelled for order in the barracks yelling - These are not cadets and these are solid women and not barracks, but a mixture of the barracks and the chicken coop.
          2. KTA
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            Not 16, but 46. 16 + 15 + 15 in three courses.
        2. AU Ivanov. 10 November 2019 20: 14 New
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          Have you ever seen how girls fly? And I saw, being a cadet of the flying club, I went out to drool of envy. Not every man such aerobatics is available.
          1. not main 10 November 2019 22: 14 New
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            Quote: AU Ivanov.
            Have you ever seen how girls fly? And I saw, being a cadet of the flying club, I went out to drool of envy. Not every man such aerobatics is available.

            And do you compare the flying club with the air force? There are no words. You would have connected gliders or balloons.
            1. AU Ivanov. 10 November 2019 23: 05 New
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              Overloads on pilotage there are quite comparable.
              1. not main 10 November 2019 23: 17 New
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                Quote: AU Ivanov.
                Overloads on pilotage there are quite comparable.

                I agree with that! But these are short-term overloads. But what about permissible on duty in the database? Or in the MSS? In readiness number 1? It’s just a snap. There are more and unnecessary problems, but what is the use? Ambitions of the Amazons?
                1. AU Ivanov. 10 November 2019 23: 21 New
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                  Instructors in flight schools girls can be quite capable.
                  1. not main 10 November 2019 23: 45 New
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                    Quote: AU Ivanov.
                    Instructors in flight schools girls can be quite capable.

                    Here I agree completely! I’ll even say that girls can give odds to male instructors! A woman can patiently explain the same thing at least 20 times! And with a man, patience ends on the third, at best, on the fourth repetition! By the way, thanks to the occasion, I convey my deep gratitude to my first instructor: Alexander Khomutov!
                  2. faridg7 11 November 2019 05: 12 New
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                    Here I agree completely! I’ll even say that girls can give odds to male instructors! A woman can patiently explain the same thing at least 20 times! And with a man, patience ends on the third, at best, on the fourth repetition!

                    Here I disagree slightly with you. The scrub should not have angelic patience, after the second repetition, the cadet should already have received by ZS. If the cadet pilot does not grab the first or second time, is it worth it to train? him in pepelats with double control or even write-off
                  3. NN52 11 November 2019 09: 14 New
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                    faridg7 (Farid Gabidullovich)

                    Greetings!
                    How's the little thing? Have you mastered everything?
                  4. faridg7 11 November 2019 10: 53 New
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                    Everything is fine. Distributed home while on vacation, after a vacation at VLEK in Moscow, then to Lipetsk to study.
                  5. NN52 11 November 2019 12: 19 New
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                    faridg7
                    Excellent!
                    Let them carefully prepare for the VLK, that year several graduates were “shot down" there ...
                  6. faridg7 11 November 2019 13: 50 New
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                    Yes, in the know. In general, I don’t understand what is the point, spend a lot of time and money on training, and only after graduation arrange such a check. This had to be done before.
            2. not main 11 November 2019 21: 36 New
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              Quote: faridg7
              Quote: non-primary
              Here I agree completely! I’ll even say that girls can give odds to male instructors! A woman can patiently explain the same thing at least 20 times! And with a man, patience ends on the third, at best, on the fourth repetition!

              Here I disagree slightly with you. The scrub should not have angelic patience, after the second repetition, the cadet should already have received by ZS. If the cadet pilot does not grab the first or second time, is it worth it to train? him in pepelats with double control or even write-off

              In general, I agree. But there are other points, for example, the struggle with existing reflexes, here is one of them: for an aircraft when the cadet and instructor are sitting next to each other, when talking to the instructor, turn your head toward the instructor, that's right! A lot of people got a fist in the ear (over the headset)! But rebuilding reflexes is not so simple. That's about such moments I was talking. If you think that I’m not right here either, then let's agree that there can be many opinions, and the truth is somewhere in between!
            3. faridg7 12 November 2019 02: 16 New
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              Quote: non-primary
              A lot of people got a fist in the ear (over the headset)! But rebuilding reflexes is not so simple. That's about such moments I was talking.

              So I am about the same. Reflexes break down and are developed quickly not by angelic patience, but by physical pain and fatigue much faster.
              For example, I remember how Peter Vasilievich taught me how to read and remember:
              Traveled a sign
              Voros: what was the sign?
              ....
              wait, cuff, run watch.
              He returned, reported, told what it means, how it is duplicated, to where it acts.
              sit down, let's go
  • tihonmarine 10 November 2019 21: 21 New
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Yeah. "Corncrackers." Night witches. Don't confuse soft and warm. .Romance

    It is better to read the memoirs of men of WWII pilots and women of pilots (but not books of memoirs), but rare memories, in the "Internet" they are. War is not a woman’s business, but pilots and submariners, in general, they should study at such specialties. You need to give birth to children, the birth rate on the minuses, and whom a pilot can give birth to.
  • Lannan Shi 10 November 2019 23: 02 New
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    Quote: Observer2014
    So that garbage is overload. They will not get pregnant. There will be unborn children who will immediately kill an abortion.

    So, for information. Already at weeks 21-22, 4 hours on legs is an incentive to miscarriage. Not very weak. I do not observe tantrums about girls sellers and workers. 8 hours of gatherings in a warm office, at a computer = stagnation of blood in a small pelvis = by default a sick child. I do not observe tantrums, about girls accountants and economists. I can continue further, but the essence is one. Pregnancy and work combine sooooo weakly. And in 2 cases out of 3 the question is not whether there will be harm or not, but in the degree of harm lying in the range from - miscarriage, to - well, then we’ll earn one child a pill.
    You can’t create a society in which the woman who is about to give birth doesn’t work and doesn’t slip into poverty? Not to mention the four K living? Well, don’t hum over your ear. We’ll figure out the degree of risk we are ready to take.
    Dixi.
    1. lopvlad 11 November 2019 04: 11 New
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      Quote: Lannan Shi
      Already at weeks 21-22, 4 hours on legs is an incentive to miscarriage.


      do you know a lot now of women who work as loaders, workers, hairdressers in their sixth month of pregnancy?

      Quote: Lannan Shi
      8 hours of gatherings in a warm office, at a computer = stagnation of blood in a small pelvis = by default a sick child. I do not observe tantrums, about girls accountants and economists.


      nobody sits in the office without getting up for 8 hours and you can always get up to stretch. How do you imagine a warm-up in a fighter?

      Quote: Lannan Shi
      stagnation of blood in the pelvis = default sick child.


      uncontrolled eating of contraceptives + intermittent abortions = at best a child down and in the worst case infertility.
      The desire of women to keep pace with men in everything without understanding that the male and female bodies are two completely different organisms is complete stupidity which only leads to the extinction of the population.
  • Alexander Tsvetkov 11 November 2019 01: 22 New
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    Are there any girls who put 95% of men in their belts and such will forbid the road to heaven? The weak there will not pass a serious selection and the cost of training will take the best. So let's give way to heaven. In other air forces have long been flying, what are we worse?
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      Quote: Alexander Tsvetkov
      In other air forces have long been flying, what are we worse?

      And why did you decide that this is "worse"? Maybe what was- was better?
      No not like this. What was- was better. Now slid to the level of "other Air Force"
    2. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 16: 05 New
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      They have been flying in other air forces for a long time, what are we worse? ....... it can be seen, except for how they can shoot at monkeys no more, the air force's decline
  • Prisoner 10 November 2019 23: 11 New
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    This shot completely lost the coast! what He covered himself with a foreign flag. It is so obvious that you want to swear.
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    What tricks are the country now Russia is not undertaking to veil the true culprits of the fact that the girls have already gone into combat aviation !!!!
    There is a shortage of young people in the country, but where are they guys?
    And they were poisoned by a cop cop that already sits on a large pension and writes memoirs !!!!!
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      Israelis generally shoved girls into all holes and nothing. Not guilty of the culprits? laughing
  • Prisoner 10 November 2019 23: 08 New
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    My minus! My little one, having listened to my praises to turntables and uncle's stories (first-class pilot, DB veteran), gathered in the Syzran VVUL. Mother is almost hysterical, I'm in a stupor. It’s good that they beat off the set! Don't talk heh ... bullshit!
  • Victor_B 10 November 2019 18: 06 New
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    May not understand!
    What for?
    Why women do not war?
    Well, they have been successfully performing in aerobatics for a long time, but why are pilots needed, which then normal men will protect?
    Well, they would have shot down Syria with a female crew in Syria, because there would have been a different resonance.
    And if you do not send into battle, why teach?
    War is a very harmful production!
    1. Prisoner 10 November 2019 23: 17 New
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      Scroll through the history of the Great Patriotic War. But Malakhov and Galkin should not be hoped for. In Russia, I’m sure that not a few girls will give a hundred points ahead to individuals born with primary male sexual characteristics, but not being them. hi
  • Thrifty 10 November 2019 18: 09 New
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    This is not a woman’s business, although the fellows decided that they would show their character and try themselves, which they really are capable of. The war turned over all concepts and eyes, sir, God forbid that our pilots, like pilots, should not have to fight again in the sky of our country. ..
    1. Victor_B 10 November 2019 18: 24 New
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      Quote: Thrifty
      God forbid that our pilots, like the pilots, should not have to fight again in the sky of our country. ..

      That is, in the sky of another country, if the Motherland orders, let the men fly?
      As an example, transport aviation. Somewhere in Africa right now our men have not climbed out of cabins for months.
      So the regiment commander will have all pilots equal, but some are more equal.
      For at least 3-4 days, medicine will not let the pilot fly into the sky every month.
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        Viktor V. - at the moment, it turns out that the Motherland essentially protects our girls and women without putting them at the helm of a fighter. ..
        1. Victor_B 10 November 2019 18: 35 New
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          Quote: Thrifty
          Viktor V. - at the moment, it turns out that the Motherland essentially protects our girls and women without putting them at the helm of a fighter. ..

          That is how it should stay!
          Hazardous production.
          Only men.
    2. The leader of the Redskins 10 November 2019 18: 29 New
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      So the war, in general, is not a female matter, but how many girls are in the army. In Syria, over there, Kurdish women took machine guns along with men, and in the Donbass from both sides. Sometimes you watch the news - beauties! They would have to go on the catwalk, and they are in berets and with snipers ....
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        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        They would have to go on the catwalk, and they are in berets and with snipers ....

        In mournful photos with a message about the death ...
        Do you wish our fate like this?
        1. vfwfr 10 November 2019 18: 55 New
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          They themselves choose this fate ...
          It’s better than being a living but an escort girl.
          I would support many opponents ... For example, because the girls followed in the footsteps of Svetlana Kapanina !!! So ki where to get a sufficient number of aerodromes in the country with aerobatic aircraft with an existing SLG (roughly speaking, inspection like in cars). And most importantly, flight finals ...
          1. sergand53 10 November 2019 19: 36 New
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            And it was not hell DOSAAF to destroy !!! So there would have been "Kopanins" in droves, and not like now, who has grandmas, he is a "member" of the flying club!
            1. vfwfr 10 November 2019 19: 56 New
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              If, but, here ... all this is conditional .. The reality is this, now there is no and you need now .. Do you want to twist the sky and loops, but there is no money, go to the army .. But, the army will demand in return ..
              For reference: Due to the structure of the female body, they better tolerate overload (more precisely, there are more chances of not being cut off). On this resource, there was a similar article only on the "M" pilots ... they say the young came, knows nothing, there is no experience, and instead of a screwdriver in his pocket .. a nail file ..
              And So .. in the USA, ISRAEL, now China ... girls fly and nothing ...
              1. lopvlad 11 November 2019 04: 28 New
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                Quote: vfwfr
                Due to the structure of the female body, they better tolerate overload


                only after such overloads the chances of carrying and having children fall exponentially. Overloading in modern aviation is not a flight to the U-2 during the war.
                Women always have more health and stamina than men, but this nature's health is not given to them for experimentation and evidence that they can drink, smoke, pilot a fighter as men. This health is given to them solely to bear, give birth and raise healthy children.
                In my opinion, the woman who gave birth to healthy children and raised them has already proved everything to everyone, unlike the one who learned to pilot a fighter.
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                  As for the children and overload ... Svetlana Kapanina is possible (but this is not certain) will not agree with you. )))
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                  this health by nature is not given to them for experiments and evidence that they can drink like men

                  Can not. Proven by science and practice.
              2. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 16: 09 New
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                And so .. in the USA, ISRAEL, now China ... girls fly and nothing ...... read the statistics of incidents and everything will fall into place
      2. tihonmarine 10 November 2019 21: 26 New
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        Donbass on both sides. Sometimes you watch the news - beauties!

        I remember those from Nagorno-Karabakh. Sorry.
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    Gymnasts clearly out of fashion laughingThe time has come for the daughters to attach. This decision is right here so necessary to increase the country's defense capability. negative

    Well, the girls want to show themselves and others that they are capable of being in the army not only as financiers and doctors. Good luck in their endeavor.
    1. Rostislav Prokopenko 10 November 2019 18: 22 New
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      It’s only there that a too strong blow is received precisely for FEMALE health.
      I have never heard something about the children of our female cosmonauts. Of course, there is much less radiation, but overload ....
      I read a story somewhere, how cadets of one of the flight schools for their flown friends using an ejection simulator arranged an abortion.
      1. Tersky 10 November 2019 18: 47 New
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        Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko
        I have never heard something about the children of our female cosmonauts.

        The daughter of Tereshkova, Elena Andriyanovna Nikolaeva-Tereshkova was born at the beginning of June 1964, a completely healthy, strong girl.
        Savitskaya Svetlana has a son - Khatkovsky Konstantin Viktorovich, born 07.11.1986.
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          Thank. So I read something not very correct.
          1. Tersky 10 November 2019 21: 28 New
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            Thank you.

            It's my pleasure. Search and find ... yes
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          The daughter of Tereshkova, Elena Andriyanovna Nikolaeva-Tereshkova was born in early June 1964 .... a rather muddy story, it has been shrouded in mystery since Soviet times, because there were no children from the second marriage
          with regards to Savitskaya, in principle, the Korolev’s “seven” with the “Soyuz” was no longer cast from 6-7 F, as was the case with the East and Sunrises., but with a maximum of 3
          so women in space are more likely victims of experiments in space. we don’t have anything to do without women on Mars, just like with long flights in space, but a fighter is another matter. sometimes it will be necessary to leave it urgently, and here 16Zh in rolls. what do you think will happen after that?
      2. sergand53 10 November 2019 19: 34 New
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        Not an interruption, but a miscarriage!
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          This very bad way with a tragic outcome is described in the story of Katapult Lomachinsky.
  • knn54 10 November 2019 18: 17 New
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    Physiology has not been canceled - critical days, pregnancy.
    I think that it’s better that pilots ... give birth.
    In the end, there is a shortage of guys, or something.
    PS I wanted to become a pilot in my childhood, but the dream came true in half, often flew /
    1. cniza 10 November 2019 18: 22 New
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      This will end with the majority, but only a few ... but who will send them to fight, if only for their native land ...
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      Quote: knn54
      I wanted to become a pilot in my childhood

      Quote: knn54
      knn54 (Nikolai)

      Officer's daughter in dad’s account?
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      Physiology has not been canceled - critical days, pregnancy.

      Even among Bandera women, women did not sit in caches.
  • Vladislava_I 10 November 2019 18: 20 New
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    Good news!
    I am very happy that girls are gaining more and more heights in the professions, many of which the peasants stubbornly staked out!
    We also have many qualities, women during the years of World War II showed this.
    It's great, I think, they will still prove themselves in this difficult and dangerous business! Good luck and all the best to girls pilots.
    1. Victor_B 10 November 2019 18: 41 New
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      Out of curiosity.
      Can you imagine the life of a MILITARY pilot? Gen.
      Wandering the garrisons. Business trips. The death of comrades. Go to the cemetery near any air base.
      Or are we women worthy of a different approach from command?
      Let all the burdens fall on the men?
      1. cniza 10 November 2019 20: 21 New
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        It just sounds beautiful to her ... and beyond that is the hardest physical work, and not just physical.
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        Or are we women worthy of a different approach from command?
        Let all the burdens fall on the men?

        Guys will wash the diapers and lingerie, and their wives will bomb ISIS.
    2. kotvov 10 November 2019 18: 45 New
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      Vladislav, you just can’t imagine what it means to be a combat pilot. You have nothing to do there, your limit is on transporters.
    3. cat Rusich 10 November 2019 19: 04 New
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      There is such a profession - a miner ... During the Second World War there were female miners. Female labor in the mines was canceled in 1957, and finally finished with female labor in the mines in 1966. 6 women miners Heroes Social. Labor - O. Skachkov, P. Alexandrin, V. Logvinov, N. Grigorenko, B. Omarov, M. Rusanov, and in other mining industries of I. Gusentsov. Who wants to become a miner now?
  • Sibiriya 10 November 2019 18: 35 New
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    Now, female cadets have the opportunity to receive military aviation specialties. This was reported by TASS news agency with reference to the head of the Krasnodar Higher Military Aviation School of pilots Sergei Rumyantsev.

    According to the head of KVVAUL, the training of girls in the directional programs of fighter, bomber and attack aircraft began at a military university.

    The question arises which particular specialties? In peacetime, wherever it went. Perhaps the service of flight instructors. There were successful examples. As for participation in hostilities, it is categorically against. The purpose of the woman is the house, hearth, parenting. I think this pampering is not a place for women in the war.
    1. Thrifty 10 November 2019 18: 44 New
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      Sibiria agrees with you, but life often dictates its conditions. Therefore, although the war is not a woman’s face, they had to fight along with men hi
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      There is no such position - "flight instructor." There is a pilot instructor. He teaches in full - from initial training to combat use.
  • Old26 10 November 2019 18: 42 New
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    Something I have never heard about the children of our women-cosmonauts

    = Valentina Tereshkova: daughter Elena = born in 1964 (flew in 1963)
    = Svetlana Savitskaya: son Konstantin. Born in 1986 (flew in 1982 and 1984)
    = Elena Kondakova: daughter Elena (born before the flight)
    = Elena Serova: daughter Elena (born before the flight)
  • Vladislava_I 10 November 2019 18: 47 New
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    I understand that the forum of men and women is rare, so I probably grab the minuses for my opinion, but I will say!
    This is basically an answer to the "Male" opinion that women should stupidly sit at home and give birth because men want it and they were hammered into it!
    Well, for starters, I want to say that the quality of men in the CIS countries is steadily declining. Some drink like hell, dying en masse from alcohol and other diseases. Plus, it’s not a secret to anyone that men make up the lion's share in crime. That in PMCs are massively dying around the world do not understand what interests!
    The other part wears tight pants, make women's hairstyles. In Moscow and St. Petersburg, the number of such boys is approaching a critical mass. Therefore, it turns out that in the 21st century, men in the CIS and generally in the world do not become such a strong gender.
    Therefore, I believe that women should substitute their shoulder for the homeland in protecting interests!
    And to give birth to children in the 21st century is a purely personal opinion of a woman! If she does not want to be a mother at this stage of her life, but sees herself in the defense of the country - I think no one has the right to dictate to her what to do!
    All peace and prosperity!
    1. sergand53 10 November 2019 19: 30 New
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      Baby, can you stand the aerobatics + 6-7? And if not, but in battle? And then, do you need a car, service staff, etc. etc. spend?! I explain, at +7 my eyes closed, unfortunately, I was not Ilya Muromets!
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        With 7mi, the eyes should not be closed with a properly adjusted PPK.
      2. AU Ivanov. 10 November 2019 23: 36 New
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        Well, our aunts in aerobatics spin in the unlimited class with overloads plus or minus 10G
        1. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 16: 41 New
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          aunts in aerobatics in the unlimited class with overloads plus or minus 10G .... do you know what = = 10Zh ??? .... what is the ancestor of Menhausen?
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            I twisted it myself to 6G so that I have an idea. In aerial acrobatics, this is exactly: up to plus or minus ten units.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 17: 01 New
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              In aerial acrobatics ...... and which apparatus was turned in aerial acrobatics? if it `s not a secret
              1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 17: 07 New
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                I did not do aerial acrobatics, just aerobatics. Yak-52.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 17: 19 New
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                  aerobatics. Yak-52 ..... this unit above 6Zh cannot ". Where does + - 10Zh" take "?
                  1. AU Ivanov. 11 November 2019 17: 40 New
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                    And who said that the girls flew on the Yaks? It seems that they were flying on Extra. And where did you get the idea that the Yak-52 can not exceed 6 units? 6 this is the ultimate overload, destructive - 2.5 times more. I used to have the maximum overload sensor light on. It seems alive.
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                      And who said that the girls flew on the Yaks? It seems to be on Extra ........ and that does not matter. Have you ever seen what a person who fell from the 5th floor on asphalt looks like ??? I have seen, and more than once, such a profession. and even from the 12th floor, so no need to charge, ..... this is dangerous for men. and for the ladies .......
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                        Women tolerate overload better than men.
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                        Women tolerate overloads better than men ........ you charge again, testosterone gives men incredible abilities, the female team develops only estrogen, which enters into a stupor, helping to overcome incredible pain but not overload, with military medicine it’s proved that argue?
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    Quote: Vladislav_I
    the opinion that women should stupidly sit at home and give birth because men want so and they were hammered into it!

    Do you blame nature for stupidity for its decision to specialize in a woman to bear a child? For her decision to oblige a man to form a habitat? We must strive to maintain the natural norm. Create order when male activity is enough to protect.
    Quote: Vladislav_I
    If she does not want to be a mother at this stage of his life, but sees himself in the defense of the country - I think no one has the right to dictate to her what to do!
    Do not forget that your personal merit in the birth of God is not even a micron, and be grateful to your long, long family.
  • Demon_is_ada 11 November 2019 01: 24 New
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    Quote: Vladislav_I
    the opinion that women should stupidly sit at home and give birth because men want so and they were hammered into it!

    Not true hi not in a cream case Stupid, but they should raise children until the child’s brain is ready for male training, that is, a dangerous production. And what would be good to educate, you must be literate yourself, physics, mathematics is our fse tongue Then this will not happen
    Quote: Vladislav_I
    Well, for starters, I want to say that the quality of men in the CIS countries is steadily declining. Some drink like hell, dying en masse from alcohol and other diseases. Plus, it’s no secret that in crime the lion's share of a man is made up. In Moscow and St. Petersburg, the number of such boys is approaching a critical mass. Therefore, it turns out that in the 21st century, men in the CIS and generally in the world do not become such a strong gender.

    Further, it is incorrect to give examples of the Second World War, at that time there were no anti-overload suits, there were no catapults, the specific power of the engines was like that of modern cars laughing Given the monthly, a sharp change in the hormonal background and the effect of hormones on the psychoemotional sphere, it is worth thinking about a replacement crew ... will you work for half the salary? I’ll continue the topic ... menstruation - swelling of the mammary glands, uterus, when overloaded, they will definitely hurt, but the pain will distract, and no one has designed costumes for women. Modern aircraft have enormous power density, and overloads become long, unlike aerobatic aircraft, moreover, with modern construction materials, the pilot is already a problem for the aircraft, he is weak, does not withstand the overloads that an aircraft can endure !!! The trend is to replace with robots, but so far the AI ​​has no initiative that determines the outcome of the battle, and civilians have been flying on autopilots for a long time, the pilot has furniture interior there and just in case ... Why develop a dead end branch, there is nothing more to do ??? belay
    Quote: Vladislav_I
    And to give birth to children in the 21st century is a purely personal opinion of a woman! If she does not want to be a mother at this stage of her life, but sees herself in the defense of the country - I think no one has the right to dictate to her what to do!

    Have you raised your retirement age? laughing Well, get ready to cancel at all with such thoughts hi Urrryaya - kryaya !!! hi
    Py ssy, when the dance was such a thing - the Amazons, well, as they say, they probably blame, because there are none now, nowhere else ... Or maybe there were, they died a mustache, the miserable did not survive in harsh competition with normal .. .
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    In Moscow and St. Petersburg ..... but are these megacities all and the whole of the Russian Federation ????? Well, on the topic, how do you imagine female physiology? you will pump testosterone in horse doses ...... congratulations. stock up on razors
  • Vladislava_I 10 November 2019 18: 54 New
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    Vladislav, you just can’t imagine what it means to be a combat pilot. You have nothing to do there, your limit is on transporters.

    I am sure these girls know what the severity of aviation is, and what it means to be a combat pilot. They don’t take them from the streets. There is a strict selection, and if for girls this is the meaning of life, I think it is necessary to support! Everyone has the right to self-realization!
    It’s a pity I don’t have the ability to do this. Yes, and super health ideal for aviation (((
    1. Pete mitchell 10 November 2019 21: 48 New
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      I am sure these girls know what it is ...

      You know, dear, say a lot correctly: about self-realization, about shoulder substitute... I would tear off my hands to those who support the girls on the way to the army, honestly. Probably just old-fashioned: kinder, kirchen, kutchen.
      Sorry, but many get into the first boyish world, and then require special treatment - it doesn’t happen. The real situation is oh, you rudely gave me a command.... This is not a joke, this is a real situation, for example I need it
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      It’s a pity I don’t have the ability to do this. Yes, and health .. just the opposite, that would not make it worse
  • Kerensky 10 November 2019 18: 55 New
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    at the moment being considered training in military specialties at the university regarding 9 girls

    The author's news to the answer! For how many years a female enrollment hasn’t fit into the gym! .... Well, I’m talking about Tver, of course, maybe a little different in KVVAUL ...
  • Petrol cutter 10 November 2019 19: 12 New
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    Cadets girls, she’s not even girls, but women are just fairies!
    With their presence alone, they (fairies) unbearably beneficially affect the willingness of men to work miracles, and other charitable events.
    Although, of course, sometimes some morally unstable muscovites misinterpret the presence of ladies in the troops. And they begin to take some wrong actions. For this they deserve universal condemnation and the lack of severance pay for retirement.
    And so I am familiar enough with many ladies military personnel. Smarties, fairies are simple. Well, cats are loved. Well then ...
  • sergand53 10 November 2019 19: 24 New
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    Well, the "Darwin" selection has begun! I wonder how many will remain on training? Previously, it was more convenient for both the applicant and the MO aeroclub, then everything went on the thumb, you can’t, you don’t need money and the MO did not spend money on you.
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    Sometimes girls need to say: - No!
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    Women, in achieving their goal, are worse than men. In addition, not everyone will be accepted, and yet there are specialties where women cannot be, fighter aircraft is one of those, in my opinion. And here the point is not whether they can or not (of course they can), the woman and the equipment are not compatible!
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      Women, in achieving their goal, are worse than men.

  • rudolff 10 November 2019 19: 47 New
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    This world will ruin tolerance and equality ..!
    what
    1. Alexander Ra 10 November 2019 20: 44 New
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      Recently there was a plot on TV in Khakassia - on a career, a woman proudly taxied BELAZ, in full dress. It was thought - how many men with wrenches serve this equality?
      1. albert 10 November 2019 21: 47 New
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        Femenism on the march, what can you do.
  • Jerk 10 November 2019 20: 50 New
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    Until recently, transport aviation was considered the only possible option for training girls in military universities of the Russian Aerospace Forces system.

    Incidentally, it was justified. A lady cannot be shot down. If it’s very short - everyone will fly to save her, on four bones and die a lot. This is not Hero of Russia Peshkov, to understand
  • vitvit123 10 November 2019 20: 53 New
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    I remember once, in one group of scouts, Mademoiselle came and said that she would go to the BZ (combat mission) and that she was a sniper. Absolutely nothing good came of this venture, quite the contrary ....
  • vitvit123 10 November 2019 21: 01 New
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    With respect to the women - heroes of aviation, astronautics of the past! But please explain to me if the girls want to become mothers several times ... the practical benefits for aviation (fighter, modern) still remain (taking into account the rapid retirement and modern legislation)? I still have not seen anyone (those who advocate - for) the answer to this question.
  • Avior 10 November 2019 21: 16 New
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    female fighter pilots have around the world
    First Lieutenant Misa Matsushima completed a training course and will now be able to fly an F-15. At a press conference, Matsushima told reporters that she would “open the way” to other female fighter pilots.

    Flying officer (first lieutenant) Fanny "Schotti" Chollet became the first woman pilot in the Swiss Air Force to become a fighter pilot, reports theaviationgeekclub.com on February 22.
    Schotti began training in 2012 and received a license in 2017, in 2018 she completed courses that allowed her to fly on the Swiss Air Force F / A-18 Hornet fighters. She has become part of the Swiss Air Force pilot community since January this year.

    US Air Force Lt. Col. Christina Mau made her first training flight on an F-35A fighter. This flight made her the first female pilot in the history of the F-35 Lightning II.


    Lieutenant Katarzyna Tomyak-Semenevich the first woman of the MiG-29 fighter pilot of the Polish Air Force (Siły Powietrzne)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1HUFzAcphM
    Pilot Aisha Farooq climbs into the cockpit of the Chinese fighter Chengdu J-7 at Munshaf airbase


    Recently, a graduation ceremony for female fighter pilots was held at the base of the Israeli Navy - Hatzerim. 5 women successfully completed their studies, which became a historical record. That day, flying performances were held. In the pictures: female pilots are photographed by a fighter.
    (2012 year)
    http://russian.china.org.cn/exclusive/txt/2012-02/22/content_24702289.htm

    On the other hand
    A female pilot of a J-10 fighter Yu Xu died during a training flight


    October 25 1994 of the year, just a month after 3 after receiving admission to the management of F-14, Lt. Kara Spears Haltgreen died to the death.

    The F-14A "Tomcat" aircraft (serial number 160390, tail code NH), piloted by Karry Haltgreen, fell into the water when approaching the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln. On the remaining footage of the newsreel you can see how one of the Kota's engines stalled, after which the plane finally lost speed, turned over and crashed into the water just behind the stern of the aircraft carrier.

    Need statistics.
    Of course, women should undergo the flight commission according to the same criteria as men, and maybe more seriously, taking into account physiology, but without statistics it can not be concluded.
    It is hardly possible to speak about the application of experience from the Great Patriotic War - overload and speed were not the same on a jet fighter, and in World War II the women's regiments were more likely to raise the morale of the fighters - there were only one female out of 80 flight regiments of night bombers, but wrote about it (and awarded pilots) almost more than about the rest combined. A purely female fighter and bomber did not work, although they were also used to raise morale.
    It’s also very necessary, by the way.
    I do not think that a female fighter pilot will be common, but the morale of the military will undoubtedly raise.
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      On the other hand

      There is a dollybread on the site. They didn’t nail him - here ... That's why the shit throws with SILO mug - "Avi"! Here ...
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        This stupid Dolby-op - can not argue ... Here ... Therefore, he ends up in the hara)
    2. Crimean partisan 1974 11 November 2019 16: 56 New
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      We need statistics ........ nusss, and where is it, how are the successes in training battles ????? then I see that the stripes mess up constantly in training battles with the Indians .... along the way it’s clear why,
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        Of course not.
        Has anyone collected it?
        IMHO, before deciding on the admission of women to fighters, you need to collect statistics on training battles, term of service, overload capabilities, and only then consciously make a decision.
        But it turns out that this is a purely emotional decision.
  • Vladislava_I 10 November 2019 21: 22 New
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    Quote: Alexander Ra
    Quote: Vladislav_I
    the opinion that women should stupidly sit at home and give birth because men want so and they were hammered into it!

    Do you blame nature for stupidity for its decision to specialize in a woman to bear a child? For her decision to oblige a man to form a habitat? We must strive to maintain the natural norm. Create order when male activity is enough to protect.
    Quote: Vladislav_I
    If she does not want to be a mother at this stage of his life, but sees himself in the defense of the country - I think no one has the right to dictate to her what to do!
    Do not forget that your personal merit in the birth of God is not even a micron, and be grateful to your long, long family.

    Well, we live in the 21st century. There is a development of man and the meanings of nature as well. I recall that nature creates man naked. Maybe we will not wear clothes? And what, closer to nature, so to speak. And much more in the past was considered a sin and against nature. If you look back, we will not come to progress but to degradation.
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    Quote: Alexander Ra
    Recently there was a plot on TV in Khakassia - on a career, a woman proudly taxied BELAZ, in full dress. It was thought - how many men with wrenches serve this equality?

    I’m watching the girl’s channel alone, she drives a KAMAZ truck and serves it herself. She twists everything, with her bare hands, without any protection. All men are shocked that it turns out girls can not be afraid for manicure and delicate skin.
    1. Voyager 11 November 2019 10: 41 New
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      If a woman pilot, whose training literally spent millions, suddenly wants to start a family and go on maternity leave, then these millions will simply be lost. Have you thought about this? This is not beneficial purely from an economic point of view.
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        and then a second decree, the third one and after 9 years will return to service, having forgotten everything and probably lost its physical form .. So what? For example, at 22 years old, at 23 the first pregnancy and after 9 years she is 32 .. what is the result? will go to the headquarters as some kind of assistant .. and yes, you are right - millions down the drain .. the practical benefit of such a pilot is also 0. MAXIMUM - BTA women, if you want to fly like that ..
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        no need to go far for an example
        Natalya Titenkova quit the ranks of the Armed Forces without leaving their parental leave. Natalia has two sons: the youngest is soon two years old, the oldest is already five.

        As it became known to Naviny.by, 28-year-old Natalya Titenkova can replenish the squad of pilots of the national airline Belavia. Natalia is currently undergoing an internship at a training center in Vilnius.


        https://naviny.by/article/20170308/1488952161-pervaya-v-belarusi-zhenshchina-voennyy-letchik-ushla-v-grazhdanskuyu
        but statistics are needed - what percentage of women went this way
    2. Crimean partisan 1974 12 November 2019 07: 58 New
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      Itself turns everything, ...... what exactly did you turn with your bare hands in KAMAZ ????? so offhand, in the zombies, there is everything, but in reality ......... rather, in the truck, this young lady was spinning something else
  • KTA
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    In the "VKS RF" system, female cadets study themselves in Mozhaika
    Link to the first photo you get https://vka.spb.ru/3f.html
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      First Mozhaika is an engineering school, not a flying school.
      And secondly, Mozhaika has the same attitude to aviation as a hare to ballet. This is a space academy.
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    President - Man: They want, let them fly. Sorry or something. How many of them? Nine? Respect the desire of girls.
    Why break spears? In all seriousness, talk about physiology, about health. These are isolated cases, not a system.
    We are not talking about any mass character. Maybe one of them will become a comedian, and some will quit in a year.
    All these life examples that they like to show on TV about how a woman drives a race car (or Belaz) wonderfully, from which it is concluded that women steer Kamaz no worse than men - eggs are not worth it. Because one maaalenky fact is silent that such a woman is one in 10 male drivers and one in 000 other girls who do not want to fly anywhere - "they want a new dress and let the man decide everything."

    Sorry for the hackneyed example, but no one who sees the clubfoot in a circus on a bicycle will venture to argue that the main way to move a bear across the taiga is to ride a bicycle.
  • Zdishek 11 November 2019 07: 46 New
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    What is this project for? First, all schools to pull them into pilots. Then, with the entire regiment to close their bloopers and jambs? Poor commanders who will get such subordinates! But these experiments were already in the USSR! And they recognized unfit the weaker sex for modern aviation. But you have to PR! So come up with effective theme managers for cutting
  • awg75 11 November 2019 07: 47 New
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    I absolutely do not understand this decision. They will not be able to perform tasks on a par with men absolutely precisely. The question is who needs this?
  • zxc15682 11 November 2019 08: 15 New
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    This is in order to find unique cadets.