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Russian-Serbian air defense missile defense "Slavic shield" exercises will become annual

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Russian-Serbian air defense exercises "Slavic shield" may become annual. This was announced by the air defense missile defense commander Yuri Grekhov on the air of the Ekho Moskvy radio station.


Russian-Serbian air defense missile defense "Slavic shield" exercises will become annual


According to the commander, various options for conducting joint exercises are currently being considered. Among those considered is the option of conducting exercises annually with alternating venues, i.e. one year on the territory of Russia, the other on the territory of Serbia. However, other formats for joint maneuvers are possible.

Next year we plan to conduct exercises not only with anti-aircraft guns on ground targets, but also with anti-aircraft missiles on a real target, which we will bring with us and will launch

- declared Grehov.

This year, the joint Slavic Shield defense exercises of Russia and Serbia were held for the first time and took place in two stages. At the first one, which took place on the territory of the Ashuluk training ground, servicemen of both countries passed tests for admission to independent operation of the S-400 and Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile systems. Serbian Air Force and Air Defense officers underwent intensive training on training systems in Gatchina.

The second stage was held on the territory of the Serbian airbase Batainitsa in the vicinity of Belgrade, where Russia delivered the S-400 air defense system and the Pantsir-S air defense system. The military personnel of the two countries worked out the defense of military and civilian infrastructure from an enemy air attack. At the same time, the Pantsir-S air defense missile systems were used with live firing, and the S-400 air defense missile systems only with electronic launches.

The appearance of C-400 almost in the center of Europe attracted the close attention of NATO, the Alliance reconnaissance aircraft circled for several days in the Serbian border area to observe the exercises.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 10 November 2019 11: 47 New
    +12
    Russian-Serbian air defense missile defense "Slavic shield" exercises will become annual


    That's good, let NATO "sweat."
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 10 November 2019 11: 58 New
      +5
      The main thing is to see how reliably the air corridor will work.
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 12 New
        -9
        As NATO sees fit, so will it
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 November 2019 12: 40 New
          +4
          What are you talking about?
          1. demo
            demo 10 November 2019 14: 06 New
            +3
            Ken71 hints at the position of the Bulgarians.
            The premiere was torn by the ear for passing our complexes to Serbia.
          2. sabakina
            sabakina 10 November 2019 15: 11 New
            +1
            Quote: cniza
            What are you talking about?

            Vitya, it’s him that we will die .... well, if we want ... wink
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 November 2019 15: 41 New
              +1
              Everything is trite in this world, we will all die ... hi
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 10 November 2019 13: 39 New
        -1
        Quote: 1976AG
        The main thing is to see how reliably the air corridor will work.


        cniza (Victor)
        What are you talking about?

        Most likely, NATO will understand how they pierced this year and next time they will block everything tightly. You can recall how the "brother-Bulgarians" blocked our air corridor to Syria, on the orders of the Washington Commissariat. But there at least it was possible to find workarounds, and Serbia is an island surrounded by NATO member countries. If they become hot, I can’t imagine how logistics can be implemented. request
        1. cniza
          cniza 10 November 2019 14: 21 New
          +1
          There is such a problem, but you can always find a solution, because NATO also sometimes turns to us ...
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 10 November 2019 14: 35 New
            0
            Quote: cniza
            There is such a problem, but you can always find a solution, because NATO also sometimes turns to us ...

            That is the point. Again - you can find, but you can not find. But there is already a statement on the annual exercises (maybe something has already been decided with the "partners"). Although, xs, how everything is spinning in the upper echelons, this is not available to us. We feed on the scraps that we will be offered on the Internet and on TV, and even with links to "sources close to the Moscow Region, the government, the president and the Lord himself, who wished to remain anonymous." hi
            1. cniza
              cniza 10 November 2019 14: 46 New
              +1
              Everything can be, or maybe they just decided to troll NATO, let them strain. hi
  2. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 November 2019 11: 58 New
    +6
    At the end of the exercises, Russia will give the Serbs a pair of planes, and a dozen tanks, so that NATO will have a total eternal hiccup from our gifts good
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 14 New
      -1
      How many serviceable tanks were thrown into the RSK of Serbian soldiers? 200 or 300
  3. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 10 November 2019 12: 01 New
    +4
    It is correct that the adversaries feel that the Russian bayonet is also attached to their ass.
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 15 New
      -1
      Leave your fantasies. Adversaries do not give a damn. Wrong scales. About how to us for a parachute landing from 150 British and 6 Estonians
      1. Andrey Chistyakov
        Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Ken71
        Leave your fantasies. Adversaries do not give a damn. Wrong scales. About how to us for a parachute landing from 150 British and 6 Estonians

        Well yes. With Crimea, they spit in them like that. All my life I will not wither away now, adversaries ...
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 26 New
          0
          Yeah. For a year now they have been in a lasting stunner how they can so famously violate their own agreements. They then thought that it would be harder for Kosovo to come up with nothing.
          1. Andrey Chistyakov
            Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Ken71
            Yeah. For a year now they have been in a lasting stunner how they can so famously violate their own agreements. They then thought that it would be harder for Kosovo to come up with nothing.

            Are you talking about a coup?
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 29 New
              +1
              I'm talking about borders and the Budapest memorandum. Here we all were very surprised. A coup d'etat is a private matter of the country where it takes place. IMHO
              1. Andrey Chistyakov
                Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 33 New
                +1
                Quote: Ken71
                I'm talking about borders and the Budapest memorandum. Here we all were very surprised. A coup d'etat is a private matter of the country where it takes place. IMHO

                "Personal" business has become global.
                1. Kenxnumx
                  Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 35 New
                  -1
                  This is just sad. If they didn’t fit in, now the locals themselves would have driven the Natsik to the bench, as was the third year after the Yushch election. And so we have a united and evil Ukraine against us. For me it's so bad.
                  1. Andrey Chistyakov
                    Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 38 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Ken71
                    This is just sad. If they didn’t fit in, now the locals themselves would have driven the Natsik to the bench, as was the third year after the Yushch election. And so we have a united and evil Ukraine against us. For me it's so bad.

                    Do you believe it yourself?
                    It was necessary in 2004 to disperse in a quiet one. As the Czechs and Slovaks did in their time.
                    1. Kenxnumx
                      Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 39 New
                      0
                      Yes I believe you. But how to disperse is theirs and not our business. We have our own problems - rowing with a shovel
                      1. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 41 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Ken71
                        Yes I believe you. But how to disperse is theirs and not our business. We have our own problems - rowing with a shovel

                        You believe. But Donbass is not. That's the whole point. Therefore, he rebelled. You mean the May 2 in Odessa, do not forget the 2014 of the year. After those events, everything became clear to everyone.
                      2. Kenxnumx
                        Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 44 New
                        -2
                        Again. There are our affairs, there are not ours. And there are our problems, but there are those that have become ours.
                      3. Andrey Chistyakov
                        Andrey Chistyakov 10 November 2019 12: 44 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Ken71
                        Again. There are our affairs, there are not ours. And there are our problems, but there are those that have become ours.

                        For some time now their affairs have become ours.
                      4. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 13: 01 New
                        +5
                        Your logic reminds me of Kozyrev - "Russia has no foreign policy interests." I am sorry if so, I really liked Leningrad, as did its inhabitants.
                      5. Ross xnumx
                        Ross xnumx 10 November 2019 13: 30 New
                        +3
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Your logic reminds me of Kozyrev - "Russia has no foreign policy interests."

                        This is not the Kozyrev who:
                        He actively participated in operations in the GKO market, speculation on which, in the opinion of the former Prosecutor General Yu. Skuratov, became one of the reasons for the default of August 1998 of the year ...
                        Since 2012, Kozyrev has been living in Miami. In the US, the ex-minister spends time reading books on democratic change in the world

                        It turned out that Russia always had, has and will have foreign policy interests, only thanks to such figures as Kozyrev, these interests do not always coincide with the interests of the state.
                      6. Sergey Averchenkov
                        Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 13: 34 New
                        +1
                        Yes, that one. You know, for me this is one row - Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Kozyrev ... I can add some more.
                    2. Kenxnumx
                      Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 18: 55 New
                      -2
                      I would say that. The internal interests of Russia and its citizens are higher and higher priority than strange games abroad.
                  2. 1976AG
                    1976AG 10 November 2019 13: 43 New
                    +2
                    Quote: Ken71
                    Again. There are our affairs, there are not ours. And there are our problems, but there are those that have become ours.

                    If you are not in the know then I will inform you that the east of Ukraine is closely intertwined with Russia through family ties - wives, husbands, parents, brothers, sisters and so on. So yours - ours does not channel here. Everything is connected very closely here.
                  3. Sergey Averchenkov
                    Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 16: 16 New
                    -1
                    Closely it is put it mildly. And not only the east.
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2019 12: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Ken71
      Budapest memorandum.

      Filkina letter. Disturbed by the USA in a particularly cynical form in 2004
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 40 New
        -3
        Fine. She is broken by all. Why then take
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 November 2019 12: 42 New
          +4
          If, in essence, no one fulfills the declaration of intent, then why is Russia obliged to do this?
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 18: 57 New
            -1
            A memorandum is like an honest word. Each owner is his own - I want to give, I want to take it back. Ukrainians then fools believed-their nuclear weapons passed on parole. But it turned out like this.
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 November 2019 20: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Ken71
              A memorandum is like an honest word.

              No. This is just an outlook on a problem.
              .
              In fact, the Budapest memorandum is a story about how the Americans, in alliance with the British, tricked Ukrainian, Belarusian and Kazakh mugs. Performing the task of ensuring tight control over Soviet nuclear weapons. Beckoning these mugs with meaningless promises that were not going to be fulfilled.
            2. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 20: 58 New
              -2
              Yes. You are absolutely right. But not really. As it turned out, Russia took part in the fraud. Which by the way most of all received from him. For today
            3. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 November 2019 21: 33 New
              +1
              Quote: Ken71
              As it turned out, Russia took part in the fraud.

              I didn’t.
              Rulil then gosp. Kozyrev, in whose opinion "Russia has no national interests, but only universal interests."
              That is, at that time, Russia acted as an object of international relations, and not as a subject.
              We just became a platform for storing destroyed Soviet nuclear weapons.
            4. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 21: 54 New
              -2
              You can think whatever you want. The memorandum was signed by the president of Russia, and this is enough for me.
            5. Lopatov
              Lopatov 10 November 2019 22: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: Ken71
              You can think whatever you want.

              I don't “think,” I know.
              You read something on the topic, the Americans at one time actively bragged about their merits in "non-proliferation" during the collapse of the USSR. Including pressure on Russia to take responsibility for nuclear weapons
            6. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 22: 43 New
              -2
              This knowledge of you does not change anything. Russia signed the memorandum as an equal participant. All. The question is closed.
            7. Lopatov
              Lopatov 11 November 2019 08: 40 New
              0
              Quote: Ken71
              This knowledge of you does not change anything.

              Yeah. Facts simply cannot change your harmonious theory. Like the memories of the direct participants. The desire to kick Russia is more important.
            8. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 11 November 2019 19: 00 New
              -1
              It is you who perceive Russia as an infantile miracle that everyone uses as they want. Unlike you, I respect Russia as a power. And it saddens me that she does not always follow her word.
            9. Lopatov
              Lopatov 11 November 2019 19: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Ken71
              That you perceive Russia as an infantile miracle

              I just realize that there is a huge difference between Russia 1994 and Russia 2019.

              Russia 1994 was not just an “infantile miracle, it was a country directly opposing its own citizens” thanks to “traitors led by Yeltsin. Russia 1994 is a country in which direct Slavic genocide took place in Chechnya, to which Moscow spoke about“ taking as much sovereignty as can "Because the team from the United States was not. And the team to shoot their own parliament a year earlier was received, and instantly executed.

              So do not try to hang noodles on my ears, do not need demagoguery. I remember evrything.



              Quote: Ken71
              Unlike you, I respect Russia as a power.

              Lies.
    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 11 November 2019 10: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Ken71
      You can think whatever you want. The memorandum was signed by the president of Russia, and this is enough for me.

      The memorandum is intentions, and honestly this is a contract. Do you understand the difference?
  • asv363
    asv363 10 November 2019 12: 59 New
    +3
    The Budapest memorandum was not ratified by the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 10 November 2019 13: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: Ken71
    I'm talking about borders and the Budapest memorandum. Here we all were very surprised. A coup d'etat is a private matter of the country where it takes place. IMHO

    A memorandum is not a contract, it is for reference
    1. Avior
      Avior 10 November 2019 17: 09 New
      0
      Two treaties, in fact, were also on the creation of the CIS, and on the border.
  • 1976AG
    1976AG 10 November 2019 12: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: Ken71
    Yeah. For a year now they have been in a lasting stunner how they can so famously violate their own agreements. They then thought that it would be harder for Kosovo to come up with nothing.

    Arrangements are made for people, not the other way around. At least that's how it should be. And the fact that Crimea returned to its homeland is normal, it is the will of the population, in contrast to the collapse of Yugoslavia and other cases
    1. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 37 New
      -2
      Oops. But Kosovo is that not the will of the population?
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 10 November 2019 12: 37 New
        +3
        Was there a referendum?
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 38 New
          -1
          It was. But of course illegal, unlike ours.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 10 November 2019 12: 40 New
            +1
            Illegal is how?
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 41 New
              +1
              Legal is only ours. The rest is illegal
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 10 November 2019 12: 44 New
                +4
                Quote: Ken71
                Legal is only ours. The rest is illegal

                International observers officially recognized that the referendum in Crimea passed without violations. What else does ? There was no referendum at all about Kosovo
              2. Avior
                Avior 10 November 2019 17: 11 New
                -1
                The referendum in Kosovo actually was
                A referendum on the independence of Kosovo was held from September 26 to 30, 1991 in the Autonomous Region of Kosovo and Metohija. The declaration of independence took place on September 22, 1991. About 99% of those who voted at the turnout 87% voted for independence.
              3. Kenxnumx
                Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 18: 59 New
                -2
                I'll tell you in your ear. Even in the Sudetenland there was a referendum. And then the Czechs drove the Germans naked across the border. Because the Germans lost. And this referendum before the lantern became everything.
        2. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 November 2019 12: 44 New
          +5
          Quote: Ken71
          Was.

          Nonsense. Did not have.
          There was not even an attempt to hold it
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 10 November 2019 13: 04 New
            -3
            Quote: Spade
            Quote: Ken71
            Was.

            Nonsense. Did not have.
            There was not even an attempt to hold it

            You are as always powerful informed.
            The referendum on the independence of Kosovo was held from 26 to 30 of September 1991 in the Autonomous Territory of Kosovo and Metohija. The declaration of independence took place on September 22 1991 year. About 99% of those who voted at the turnout of 87% voted for independence. The referendum was boycotted by the Serbs living in Kosovo. However, it was not until February 2008 that the Kosovo parliament passed an act of independence
            1. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 13: 45 New
              +2
              The referendum, which was not supported either by part of the Albanian parties, or, of course, by the official Belgrade, or by the international community, was very original: there were no voters lists, polling stations and other delights of democracy, voting took place at home, whoever voted. The OSCE (then the Conference on Security and Cooperation in Europe (CSCE)) and the European Union pointed to the illegitimacy of the elections, there were no international observers, and Kosovo Serbs boycotted the referendum. The Serbian authorities declared the referendum illegal, but did not interfere with its holding.

              As the organizers announced, 99,98% of the voters supported independence, 164 people voted against, only Albania recognized the results of the referendum.
            2. Town Hall
              Town Hall 10 November 2019 13: 58 New
              -7
              As they say .. find 10 differences with the Crimean referendum
            3. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 14: 19 New
              +3
              Even so (and I do not agree with you on this), does this not show the existence of double standards? Is it possible there, but not here? Would be silent already ...
            4. Town Hall
              Town Hall 10 November 2019 14: 25 New
              -3
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Would be silent already

              Follow your advice. No one has discussed the standards. Neither double nor triple. And this is what the user declares.
              Lopatov
              Today, 12: 44
              +5
              Quote: Ken71
              Was.

              Nonsense. Did not have.
              There was not even an attempt to hold it

              Tochka. You got into the topic without knowing the ford and outlining the shortcomings of the Kosovo referendum, thereby confirming the fact of its behavior and refuting the ignorant statement of Lopatov. The rest is your problems
            5. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 15: 09 New
              0
              Maybe I’ll follow, but you didn’t answer me. Is it possible there, but not here? Answer please. I don’t already know how to force you to answer the directly asked question ... I even say “please”.
            6. Dart
              Dart 10 November 2019 16: 34 New
              +1
              Yes, this is a direct indication for the troll to drain, there is nothing to answer.))) well done, Sergey!
              and why here the trolls have a pronounced nationality and views ... under the copier ... they should already understand that they break a little, people are right and savvy, they break it off instantly. We would go to the forums of hamsters, hoes, housewives and liberds, here there dithyrambs would get full pants.
              although let them sit, they are like litmus, and the guys should practice on them ...
            7. Town Hall
              Town Hall 10 November 2019 18: 22 New
              -4
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Answer please

              I could not help but respond to the cry of the soul.
              The UN International Court of Justice at The Hague, July 22, 2010 issued an advisory opinion stating that the declaration of independence of Kosovo is not contrary to international law
              Study at your leisure the decision of the UN court and get qualified answers to all your questions
            8. Sergey Averchenkov
              Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 23: 05 New
              0
              They didn’t answer. What do I need your international court in The Hague? You can even look into your ass and what you find there will not be the answer. The question is as simple as three rubles - is it possible there, but not here? Or are you deaf, blind?
        3. Lopatov
          Lopatov 10 November 2019 15: 12 New
          +1
          Quote: Town Hall
          Point.

          More like a comma.
          After which someone tried to work out in the style of Goebbels, hoping that no one would pay attention to the discrepancy in the dates

          Quote: Town Hall
          refuting the ignorant statement of Lopatov.

          Well yes...
          "Gentlemen believe the word ..... And then I got a card and went ..." And whoever does not believe is ignorant. After all, an educated person should be aware that the decision of the State Department can not take into account a causal relationship, if it is in the interests of the United States
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2019 15: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: Town Hall
      As they say .. find 10 differences with the Crimean referendum

      One is enough.
      The referendum on Kosovo’s independence came after independence.
      Once again, if you do not understand or "do not understand", AFTER

      Quote: Town Hall
      You are as always powerful informed.

      Exactly. And you should still search, you will suddenly find.
      The referendum in Kosovo preceding the declaration of independence.
    3. Avior
      Avior 10 November 2019 17: 25 New
      0
      Well, the argument is so-so.
      Do you know when independence was declared in Russia? And when was the referendum held?
    4. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2019 17: 51 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      Well, the argument is so-so.

      Unless for Ukrainians.
      It is their Presidential OI that signs the law, after the adoption of which he could be recognized as the IO of the President.
      These are the legal incidents with a causal relationship, approved by the Great State Department from above.
    5. Avior
      Avior 10 November 2019 19: 21 New
      0
      what brings you to the Ukrainian theme all the time?
      it has nothing to do with it.
      This is what
      first, a declaration, then its approval in a referendum, and then an act of independence based on the results of a referendum, if the declaration is approved, this is a normal procedure.
      Exactly. And you should still search, you will suddenly find.
      The referendum in Kosovo preceding the declaration of independence.

      In Kosovo, the declaration of September 22, 1991, the referendum on the declaration of September 26-30, 1991, the act of independence was adopted in February 2008.
      Kosovo’s independence is 2008, referendum is 1991, everything as you asked.
      And here is another example.
      Declaration of State Sovereignty of the RSFSR - 1990, summer
      No referendum before that.
      The All-Union referendum on the preservation of the USSR - March 1991.
      For the preservation of the Union, that is, against the declaration of sovereignty in the RSFSR - 71,3%.
      Canceled the declaration of sovereignty of the RSFSR after that?
      nothing like this.
      On the contrary, they stopped the USSR in Belovezhskaya Pushcha, contrary to the decision of the referendum.
      December 12, 1991 the Bialowieza Agreement was ratified by the Supreme Council of the RSFSR denounced the Treaty on the Formation of the USSR.
      And no referendum was held at all.
    6. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2019 20: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      what brings you to the Ukrainian theme all the time?
      it has nothing to do with it.

      It has a direct.
      It’s just that such oddities have long been the hallmark of the United States.

      Quote: Avior
      Kosovo independence is 2008

      No.
      Kosovo’s independence is September 22, 1991. These are power structures, this is the army and other attributes of the state. This is the decision to disconnect Kosovo from Serbia. Which after the fact decided to legitimize a subsequent referendum.
      Pretty stupid, anyway, to conduct a trial after the execution.

      And in 2008, Kosovo Albanians simply pointedly did not give a damn about the UN Security Council resolutions from a high bell tower. With direct US support with poodles. By the way, they also did without additional troubles in the form of referenda. or other minimally legal grounds for such a declaration. However. the decision to make it was made unambiguously in Washington, the opinion of the people of Kosovo did not matter.
    7. Avior
      Avior 10 November 2019 20: 31 New
      0
      No.
      Kosovo’s independence is September 22, 1991. These are power structures, this is the army and other attributes of the state.

      do not confuse, this is a declaration, that is, a statement of intent.
      as in the RSFSR in 1990.
      and the act of enforcement in 2008- after the referendum
      and, as you know, the things you did not do in 4 days, but after the referendum.
      and a referendum is not needed for the declaration. but for the act of adoption, is needed.
    8. Lopatov
      Lopatov 10 November 2019 21: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Avior
      do not confuse, this is a declaration, that is, a statement of intent.

      Do not confuse.
      Your "Statement of Intent" was in fact the creation of the state. The real one. With three branches of government, army, police and special services. And this is a reinforced concrete fact.

      And the “declaration” is a simple scribble created in Washington


      Quote: Avior
      and the act of enforcement in 2008- after the referendum

      You yourself are not funny?
      What they "put into action," tell Kali weasel.
      There is a state with all its attributes, there is an American military base that ensures the security of the state, self-proclaimed in 1991. There is UNMIK covering the deposition of Kosovo from Serbia and the genocide of the Serbs in this territory. For which grateful Serbs at one time threw grenades at the barracks of the Ukrainian "brothers" who participated in this ...

      So what was "put in place"? What changed?
      And nothing.
    9. Avior
      Avior 10 November 2019 22: 29 New
      0
      Your "Statement of Intent" was in fact the creation of the state. The real one. With three branches of government, army, police and special services. And this is a reinforced concrete fact.
      created 4 days before the referendum?
      after the referendum they started.
  • Town Hall
    Town Hall 10 November 2019 17: 40 New
    -4
    Quote: Spade
    Kosovo referendum

    In your personal universe, does not 1991 precede 2008?
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 17: 59 New
    0
    Quote: Town Hall
    In your personal universe, does not 1991 precede 2008?

    In my personal universe, September 30, 1991 is later than September 22, 1991. Do not you have?

    I quote you:
    Quote: Town Hall
    The declaration of independence took place on September 22, 1991.

    Are you managing not to read what copy-paste ???
  • Town Hall
    Town Hall 10 November 2019 18: 01 New
    0
    I read what I write.

    The proclamation of Kosov’s independence is an act of the Kosovo Parliament dated February 17, 2008, which declared Kosovo’s independence unilaterally. As of February 11, 2014 recognized by 108 UN member countries
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 18: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Town Hall
    I read what I write.

    I will have to make a screen:
    Is this yours? Or is it your predecessor who copied past without thinking?
  • Town Hall
    Town Hall 10 November 2019 18: 08 New
    -4
    Yes, make yourself at least 100500 screenshots. The international recognition of Kosovo’s independence occurred after the declaration of independence of February 17, 2008. This is in the real world and not in your personal universe.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 18: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Town Hall
    Yes, make yourself at least 100500 screenshots

    So is it yours? Or not?

    Quote: Town Hall
    The international recognition of Kosovo’s independence came after the declaration of independence of February 17, 2008

    So what?
    And here is generally "international recognition"? And if we rely on it, then Albania was the first country to recognize an independent Kosovo. And she did it .... right, September 22, 1991

    Or for you, international recognition begins solely with the decision of the Great American President and no less than the Great State Department? laughing laughing laughing

    Quote: Town Hall
    It is in the real world.

    Exactly

    But the world in which September 22 comes after September 30 is not very real ...
  • Town Hall
    Town Hall 10 November 2019 18: 30 New
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    Lopatov..you again with an upstart run in another topic. Right now, you will write and twist 20 posts in any way and dodge and pull the donkey by the tail. Humble yourself already.
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 18: 34 New
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    Quote: Town Hall
    You will be right now 20 posts niochem

    When will I poke you into the accumulated by you, and you again pretend that this does not apply to you?

    Your post or not?


    Quote: Town Hall
    Humble yourself already.

    With the fact that you are not responsible for your own words?
  • Avior
    Avior 10 November 2019 19: 23 New
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    just on Wikipedia where you copied from. spelled incorrectly.
    The declaration was in 1991, and the act of declaration of independence, which is not the same thing, is in 2008.
  • Town Hall
    Town Hall 10 November 2019 19: 32 New
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    You are as always powerful informed.
    A referendum on the independence of Kosovo was held from September 26 to 30, 1991 in the Autonomous Region of Kosovo and Metohija. Independence declaration happened on September 22, 1991. About 99% of those who voted at the turnout 87% supported independence. The referendum was boycotted by the Serbs living in Kosovo. However, only
    in February 2008, the Kosovo parliament passed an act of independence

    In my post, everything is reflected for people who understand the topic. Lopatov nn from among them
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 20: 07 New
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    Are you going to answer for your words?
  • Lopatov
    Lopatov 10 November 2019 20: 06 New
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    Quote: Avior
    just on Wikipedia where you copied from. spelled incorrectly.

    Everything is right there, no need to compose stupid things.
  • Wolf
    Wolf 10 November 2019 12: 25 New
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    Ken, do you know what happened in the Balkans and in the NATO team when the C400 flew to Serbia for the exercises? laughing
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 10 November 2019 12: 27 New
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      Massively jumped buying diapers starting from the Pentagon pa through Brisel! wink
      1. Kenxnumx
        Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 32 New
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        So you are a seller of diapers. Well, thanks for the qualified information.
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 10 November 2019 12: 35 New
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          Today it is much more profitable business in the West, while not harmful. Demand is growing rapidly. laughing
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 10 November 2019 12: 36 New
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            Yes Yes. I got what you mean. Good luck in business
          2. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 10 November 2019 13: 37 New
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            Quote: Wolf
            Demand is growing rapidly.

            I still want to know if there is an automatic translator function on your computer? Try to print something with it, I wonder what happens. Just make a note - (translation into Russian) ...
  • Ptrz
    Ptrz 10 November 2019 12: 20 New
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    That's what they laugh at NATO-Slavianskiy Shit!
    1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
      SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 12: 28 New
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      Quote: PtrZ
      That's what they laugh at NATO-Slavianskiy Shit!

      It will be a little different here, this organization will start again cryingthat they were pressed and pinched.
      1. Ptrz
        Ptrz 10 November 2019 12: 31 New
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        Wow! When a cockroach gets on your table, it’s just as unpleasant. And the scale is the same
        1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
          SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 12: 34 New
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          A cockroach can be slippers.
          1. Ptrz
            Ptrz 10 November 2019 12: 35 New
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            Here NATO will do so, but for now they are hoping for a negotiability, albeit in vain
            1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
              SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 13: 28 New
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              That’s what NATO will do,
              Many who wanted to do so, as a result, they received a pug and already their land, trampled on a stranger's soldier’s boot. It is enough to analyze the outcome of the story.
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 10 November 2019 12: 55 New
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      Quote: PtrZ
      That's what they laugh at NATO-Slavianskiy Shit!
      You will perform at the presentation with a new reprise? What a joke tell at least. Isn't it in shit? If transcribed correctly (schit), then there will be little laughter; they wouldn’t throw eggs and tomatoes.
      1. Ptrz
        Ptrz 10 November 2019 12: 56 New
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        You don’t even know English? Well, then, as a translator, so that there is no doubt in my interpretation
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 10 November 2019 13: 30 New
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          Quote: PtrZ
          so that there is no doubt in my interpretation
          I have no doubt that you misinterpret the word "transcribe", and therefore write inappropriately. Translation is shield, and transcription is schit. Learn the lessons!
          1. Ptrz
            Ptrz 10 November 2019 13: 43 New
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            Thank you, I learned, but you, again, no))) | ʃɪt | -here is English transcription and it is much more like a shield than the one you have.
            Pysy. Where transcription is and pronunciation. Listen teacher
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 10 November 2019 14: 13 New
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              Quote: PtrZ
              | ʃɪt | -here is English transcription
              Drug use destroys the mental capacity of adolescents. You incorrectly transliterated the "shield" in English, because, according to most GOSTs, it is correct shchit (jokes), but on the "household" transliteration (not in any GOSTs) "uh" is transmitted as "sch"). For example, see the name of the metro stations in Moscow
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                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 10 November 2019 14: 31 New
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                  Quote: PtrZ
                  A minute ago you did not know what this word means
                  ??
                  1. Ptrz
                    Ptrz 10 November 2019 14: 33 New
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                    The fact that you corrected your first post, and now it’s not us, we are not there, it’s not even surprising
                    1. sniperino
                      sniperino 10 November 2019 15: 54 New
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                      Quote: PtrZ
                      now it’s not us, we are not there
                      The site administration should not require a postal address during registration, but a certificate from a narcologist certified by a notary.
                  2. sniperino
                    sniperino 10 November 2019 14: 47 New
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                    Quote: sniperino
                    You are interpreted about transcription pronunciation!
                    You first transcribe the "shield" | ʃɪt | (sews), then record this transliteration curve
                    Shit
                    and at full twilight of consciousness they included a philologist here. Where the world is heading ...
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                      1. sniperino
                        sniperino 10 November 2019 16: 40 New
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                        Quote: PtrZ
                        Ok, consider you convinced me. Rather, myself))))
                        It takes courage to admit one’s mistake, and don’t immediately cut the back, stuttering
                        Quote: PtrZ
                        ... will mean something wrong, because it can be written in the wrong way
                        not this way
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                      3. sniperino
                        sniperino 10 November 2019 16: 48 New
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                        Now it’s noticeably worse, since I’ve not read on it for 20 years and don’t communicate with carriers.
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                    3. sniperino
                      sniperino 10 November 2019 17: 04 New
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                      Quote: PtrZ
                      Will the difference be great to you, or shame? That's the same for NATO
                      If you really want to, it’s not difficult to find him, but it’s not a pity for NATO.
                    4. Ptrz
                      Ptrz 10 November 2019 17: 05 New
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                      Well, this was where you had to start!
                    5. sniperino
                      sniperino 10 November 2019 17: 10 New
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                      Quote: PtrZ
                      Well, this was where you had to start!
                      So you started from this, having made a shield from a shield. But, apparently, Russian is foreign to you, no?
                    6. Ptrz
                      Ptrz 10 November 2019 17: 18 New
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                      There is soft and. For the American / Englishman, the difference will not be noticeably, at the level of emphasis. I know Russian well and a few more, so that there are no difficulties
                    7. sniperino
                      sniperino 10 November 2019 17: 48 New
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                      Quote: PtrZ
                      There is soft and
                      The problem, perhaps, is not in the “and”, but in the difficulty for foreigners in pronouncing the Russian “u”. Closest to all is "sch." This is in our GOSTs, and they are written by experts in English, with whom I did not stand next.
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                  3. sniperino
                    sniperino 10 November 2019 19: 05 New
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                    Quote: PtrZ
                    I know Russian well
                    Michael?!
          2. sniperino
            sniperino 10 November 2019 19: 18 New
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            Quote: PtrZ
            its writing sounds exclusively like | ʃɪt |
            Shchit? You are mistaken. Obviously, you pronounce the word “shield” with an accent, and then transcribe and transliterate your accent.
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          4. sniperino
            sniperino 11 November 2019 09: 19 New
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            Quote: PtrZ
            You opened my eyes. This is, indeed, a country of fools))) Not ... downs !!!)))
            You, you know, are not a sun clown either. Don’t pull on Parsley, more like a Joker.
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        3. sniperino
          sniperino 11 November 2019 09: 26 New
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          Quote: PtrZ
          Want to learn the language of a potential adversary, I am always at your service)))
          Thank you for the offer, but I can interrogate the American and persuade the American without additional studies.
        4. Ptrz
          Ptrz 11 November 2019 09: 32 New
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          Damn, it positively characterizes you, I tried in vain in the 90s (the Americans taught English in our country), but they taught English so it wasn’t dreamed of either a school, a technical school or an institute
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  • SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 12: 25 New
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    This is good and right! Though now, the Serb Brothers will be protected.
    1. SokolfromRussia
      SokolfromRussia 10 November 2019 13: 21 New
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      It’s just about the exercises once a year, but local liberals are already yelling. Very revealing.
      1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
        SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 13: 31 New
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        It’s just about teaching once a year,
        Everything consists in the exercises, we will always support partners.
        1. SokolfromRussia
          SokolfromRussia 10 November 2019 13: 32 New
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          This is understandable, just a very revealing reaction of local clowns. If the liberda is indignant, then the country is doing everything right.
          1. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
            SERGEY SERGEEVICS 10 November 2019 13: 35 New
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            Nobody loves the truth, and from this they are undermined.
  • OlezhkaKravchenko
    OlezhkaKravchenko 10 November 2019 12: 34 New
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    So we do not have money for retirement, but is there any?
    1. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 10 November 2019 12: 49 New
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      Why do you count money in someone else's pocket? From you, fat carries a mile away ... Gentlemen, Ukrainians, you have betrayed Russia - what the hell are you hanging out here? Get three Russians out of here. Although ... who will I send then? :)))
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 10 November 2019 13: 16 New
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      Quote: OlezhkaKravchenko
      So we do not have money for retirement, but is there any?
      You, Olezhik, would first complete your homework on Monday, and then you would complain about the “stolen pension”.
  • kriten
    kriten 10 November 2019 17: 06 New
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    Before joining NATO?
  • NBV
    NBV 10 November 2019 23: 25 New
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    Quote: Piramidon
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    Hare nonsense Nycomed. This yellow Serbian flyer wrote

    But wasn’t your pro-American government, so “white and fluffy”, already refusing to let Russian transport planes into Syria, even humanitarian aid aircraft? "Brothers", damn it, not remembering the good.

    To call the Bulgarian government “pro-American” means that you are talking about things that you have no idea about. Do you know how this government was formed and which parties make it up? For example, the Minister of War is a member of the pro-Russian coalition, whose members regularly meet with Putin, visit the Crimea and openly talk about leaving NATO. Is that what you call the pro-American government ?! The Bulgarian Prime Minister calls Russia "big brother" and blocked the initiative of Romania and Turkey in a more active NATO presence in the Black Sea. And the president of Bulgaria at every western forum spoke about lifting sanctions against Russia and openly lobbied against the purchase of American aircraft for the Bulgarian Air Force. And this is what you call pro-American ?! Less is said inappropriately ...
    Of course, the concept of separation of powers does not tell you anything, but in democracies that are not governed by decrees, and the decisions of their parliaments are practice. Parliament did not allow your planes to fly to Syria for the cargo that you call "humanitarian aid," but it was actually military equipment for the Assad regime, which was voted on by EU sanctions in the European Parliament.
    And why chew the same mantra for the "not remembering the good" Bulgarians ?! We remember the good, but we do not forget about the bad.
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