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The plans of the highest military department of Ukraine to close the military-medical clinical center of the Southern region of Odessa (411-th Military Hospital)

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The plans of the highest military department of Ukraine to close the military-medical clinical center of the Southern region of Odessa (411-th Military Hospital) as part of the State comprehensive program of reform and development of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the 2012-2017 years. This means that about 140 thousand people, the number of war veterans, military retirees, military personnel, members of their families and employees of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, invalids of the Great Patriotic War will no longer receive specialized medical care. But this unique and famous medical center treats annually about 20 thousands of people in the hospital and performs about 10 000 operations.


The plans of the highest military department of Ukraine to close the military-medical clinical center of the Southern region of Odessa (411-th Military Hospital)


This means that about 140 thousand people, the number of war veterans, military retirees, military personnel, members of their families and employees of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, invalids of the Great Patriotic War will no longer receive specialized medical care.

But this unique and famous medical center treats annually about 20 thousands of people in the hospital and performs about 10 000 operations.

411 military hospital is inextricably linked with a huge history cities. Many hundreds of thousands of people went through treatment in a military hospital.

The history of the hospital, which began back in the distant 1797 year, is inextricably linked with the army and the warrior city, the hero city of Odessa. The hospital is an active participant in all military battles of the 18-20 centuries. Special merit of his before the Fatherland during the Great Patriotic War.

The 411 Military Hospital, like the Odessa Military District as a whole, met the treacherous enemy in an organized manner, saved it from death, and returned tens of thousands of soldiers and commanders of the 9 and Primorye Armies, later in the rear and operating fronts.

The courage, professionalism and dedication of the hospital personnel (at the present time - the Military Medical Clinical Center of the Southern Region) are appreciated. The Museum of the Center carefully keeps the Honorary Red Banner and the Order of the Red Star, which the hospital has been awarded.

In the postwar period, the hospital was one of the leading military medical institutions. Our compatriots who were injured and injured in the Afghan war were treated and rehabilitated in the hospital.

The hospital has 43 treatment and diagnostic departments in 650 places, incl. 3 diagnostic center:
• diagnostic of infectious diseases;
• anesthesiology and intensive care,
located in the 12 main medical building, where about 200 doctors, 400 nurses work.
Among the medical personnel are 1 academician, 5 doctors of science, 7 candidates of science, 8 honored doctors of Ukraine, 66 of the highest category doctors.

Now 411 VGOK is a multi-purpose, specialized medical and preventive institution of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. As well as the clinical scientific and educational base of the Military Medical Directorate of the Southern Operational Command, Odessa Medical University named after M.I. Pirogov and medical schools in Odessa.

Short story

He stretches along the beautiful street of the city - French Boulevard. The main entrance is from Pirogovskaya Street, named after the founder of the Russian military field surgery. The name of Nikolai Ivanovich Pirogov is also borne by the Odessa Regional Hospital.

In the old plan of the city, the complex is clearly visible: Kulikovo Field, where military classes were held, the district headquarters, the cadet school (located between the hospital and Italian Boulevard), the hospital itself.

The history of the hospital - the history of the Russian army and Odessa. In the city there were military units of Major General Lyapunov and Katenin, the Cossack hundred of the Bug regiment and the Odessa fleet of the coastal command. These units and military settlements required a medical facility. The first mention of the hospital is contained in the report of the Senate 18 of April 1797 of the Novorossiysk military and civil governor Berdyaev. In the documents of the Moscow Archive of Justice, it appears that in the winter month of 1797, 10 of firewood and 23 of reed were released to the military hospital.

In 1808, the hospital is included in the list of hospitals of the Military Ministry, in 1816 in accordance with the Highest Decree, it is attached to the 8 corps, and in 1825-1855 (especially during the Crimean War) sick people and wounded from theaters of war are received here.

At the end of the 70-s, MI visited the hospital. Pirogov. In the book "Military Medical ..." he wrote: "I visited Odessa 3 times during the war. For the first time in August 1877, I laid several hundred wounded in it ... For the second time we visited Odessa in February 1878 ... Despite the fact that Odessa, later than other cities (only in August 1877 of the year), was involved in caring for the wounded and sick, the Odessa Local Red Cross Office managed to provide for our visit all-round 8000 assistance to the sick and wounded. " At the same time, the construction of new hospital rooms for 416 beds was completed.

As reported in the press for 1892, “In 1881-1884, the military medicine of the Odessa district, including the military hospital, enjoyed the best fame. Odessa district, taking 6-place in the general disease among other districts, at the same time was last on the list for mortality. "

During the years of civil war and devastation, when in the south of Soviet Russia, epidemics flared up every now and then, the hospital’s military medical team led the heroic struggle against infectious diseases.

The history of the military hospital is closely connected with the names of many prominent figures of domestic medicine. Over the years, Academician M.N. began his medical practice at the hospital. Soloviev, Professor A.I. Geshelin, Ya.K. Gimmelfab, I.R. Drobinsky, L.N. Aryaev, B.L. Ugryumov, I.M. Pound and others.

In 1920, clinics of a medical institute were opened in the hospital - therapeutic, gynecological, cardiological, and otolaryngological, in which outstanding specialists worked: professors ND Strazhesko, L.B. Buchstav, V.P. Filatov, N.A. Kukoverov, Y.K. Gimmelfarb.

From 1921 to 1929, the ENT clinic was headed by A.I. Geshelin, a military doctor of the first rank, who during the Great Patriotic War in 1941-42 served in the North Caucasus group of hospitals.

In the 30-s, the eye department of the hospital was the basis for the improvement of ophthalmologists under the guidance of academician V.P. Filatov. Here are the basics of tissue therapy. On the traditions of the national medical school, a large pleiad of his students grew up, who played a significant role in the development of health care.

From the first days of the Great Patriotic War, the Odessa Military Hospital was one of the most qualified hospitals of the Red Army. Its specialists restored health and returned thousands of sick and wounded to service.

In the post-war years, the destroyed premises were restored, new buildings were built, equipped with modern equipment, and therapeutic and diagnostic work was improved.

How much can hospital land cost?

The area occupied by the hospital is about ten hectares or thousands of acres. The commercial value of one hundred square meters of land in the area of ​​French Boulevard is about 60 thousand dollars per hundred square meters, according to the Mega-Macler portal. Consequently, the cost of land occupied by the military hospital may be at least 60 million dollars. It should be noted that a number of capital buildings are in excellent condition on the territory of the military clinical complex.
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  1. bamboo
    bamboo 14 July 2012 09: 08
    +2
    AWESOME !!!!!!!!!
    ONE WORD SPINS, YES I WILL NOT HEAR IT !!!!!!!!!!
    GRAY, SELL ALL THAT IS POSSIBLE IN UKRAINE !!!!! It feels like they live in the 90s !!!!!
    1. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 14 July 2012 11: 28
      +4
      The arrogance, theft and cynicism of the bandyukovichs who seized power is unlimited. This criminal trash from all over the USSR, assembled in one region, having only knowledge of values ​​in his pocket, and having nothing sacred, with a corrupt prosecutor’s office and a court, criminals in the police, is capturing, all that they had an eye on.
      411 hospital is older than Odessa itself. On the Walk of Fame are such luminaries of the medical sciences that the whole world knows about, but the ruling gangster goblins have no idea. Yes, the territory is unique, huge, green in the most prestigious area, as well as the unique building of the headquarters of the Southern Command, because of which bandyukovichs move the headquarters to the center of Ukraine. We must rise to all who care and protect the island of honor and glory of military medicine with a rich historical past and no less well-deserved present. Hands should be cut with such power, preferably with a blunt ax and without anabolics. They do not understand that the rope of hatred towards them. stretched to the limit. If it bursts, no bandit formations in police uniform will save them. They will run away, knowing the hatred of the people towards them. Therefore, they are ruining the army, realizing that the army will not follow them. (generality does not count).
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 14 July 2012 14: 39
        +4
        And in Russia the same thing happens, it’s enough to remember the closed and withdrawn (transferred outside the city limits, to other cities) higher education institutions and the cost of land and buildings, especially in Moscow and St. Petersburg ...
    2. slas
      slas 14 July 2012 16: 26
      +2
      Quote: bambu
      GRAY, SELL ALL THAT IS POSSIBLE IN UKRAINE !!!!! It feels like they live in the 90s !!!!!

      I served in Odessa for 11 years and visited 411 hospitals. Professionals really work there. And the information about closing the hospital is like a bolt from the blue. I'm in shock
  2. Captain3
    Captain3 14 July 2012 09: 10
    +5
    Unfortunately, as in the Russian Federation, everything is decided by the price of the land plot, and not by caring for the people who gave most of the life to the country. MO turned into a real estate agency, which does not care about traditions, foundations, history ...
    1. Captain3
      Captain3 14 July 2012 10: 57
      +2
      "Saw, Shura, saw ... They are golden ..."
      1. FiremanRS
        FiremanRS 14 July 2012 13: 45
        +1
        I agree. It is regrettable, but true. Everything and everything is on sale. The consequences of the dashing 90s are ready to sell even his own mother ...... ((
  3. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 14 July 2012 10: 10
    +4
    Just like in Russia. A golden calf goes ahead of the minds of individual bosses, like light in the dark kingdom. What do you say - we are all the same in our desire to receive dividends at the expense of the population. They still think that they are all allowed. But you need to believe and hope that there will not always be a holiday on their street ...
  4. amateur.
    amateur. 14 July 2012 10: 13
    +3
    It is painful to watch how everything that was created, assembled, defended by our fathers, grandfathers, ancestors starting from a torn Great Country and after all friendly people .....
  5. Splin
    Splin 14 July 2012 10: 15
    +2
    The author has a "minus" for hearing the ringing, but I don't know where he is. Not to liquidate, but to reduce. This hospital is designed for the Odessa district, in which there were 2,5 times more bayonets than in the entire Ukrainian army + also for the Moldavian SSR. there was a "thin" hospital in Kishinev. And now this colossus treats a large fuel for money.,. under the wing of MO. In rich Odessa, there is someone to heal not for nothing, and still receive a military salary and benefits. Restructure to the required amount. Yanyk is not a suicide - he returned the military institute to Odessa. I would like the attendants, I would sell the artukha, which also stands in the city center.
    Don't shout "FLOOD !!!" in dry weather.
    1. sergey69
      sergey69 14 July 2012 10: 46
      +1
      They judge this by the actions of their Minister of Defense, who will disband everything and everyone.
    2. Kars
      Kars 14 July 2012 11: 01
      +1
      The news has not come across information.

      And it’s interesting, if you could really transfer this medical institution to another less prestigious place, and improve the equipment and living conditions for the difference in prices? In principle, there is really very expensive land in Odessa ----- the right business manager would do that ---- but damn it too much temptation to snatch dough.
      1. Splin
        Splin 14 July 2012 11: 13
        +1
        The art school also stands in the center. A 20 minute walk from 411 OVG. No one sold it. And now about the realities of the army. I specially came to Odessa to oath in Odessa in the second half of the 90s. The Institute was built in a battalion. More than 3 thousand people. This year they are gaining as much as 90 !. And why the heck a hospital of this size in Odessa. And they will leave the territory. This is a historical monument. Some of the hulls will be given to Into-Sana (private hospital) - it is expanding.
        1. Kars
          Kars 14 July 2012 11: 36
          -1
          Quote: Splin
          The art school also stands in the center. 20 minutes walk from 411 OVG

          It could also be moved --- closer to the polygons.
          If there really were honest managers in the leadership of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it would be possible to make an excellent army from our army.
        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 14 July 2012 14: 42
          0
          The Institute was built in a battalion. More than 3 thousand people. This year they are gaining as much as 90 !.

          There are as many as 60 people in Smolensk (a competition of 12 people for a place and this is still).
    3. Captain Vrungel
      Captain Vrungel 14 July 2012 11: 37
      +2
      And what remains of the art school, land and from the territory of 411 hospitals?
      And where in Odessa they treat for free? There is no money for medicines - free.
      In the hospital you will receive qualified assistance, good conditions and a park area. Salt is not in the hospital, salt is in the territory. Here they will leave the infirmary in the building on the outskirts, and the rest will go under the hammer.
      1. Splin
        Splin 14 July 2012 12: 05
        0
        Do not tell me stories! It so happened that I sometimes have to lie on examination in a hospital. And what goes where and what help is rendered to me was clearly visible. In fact, 411 OVG has become a private shop. And since they started doing business, pay like everyone else, and do not sit on the neck of the Moscow Region. On the floor of 40-50 beds, there are three fighters and 4 pensioners. Everything else is for the money. It is treated cheaper, because the hospital is military and has preferences.
        1. KOMOd Shpakov
          KOMOd Shpakov 14 July 2012 17: 43
          0
          In general, I agree with you, but there are nuances. Private shop - I agree. As for the departments: there are departments where 3 are crippled, and there are departments all year round clogged by patients. In one of these, the wife works.
          1. Splin
            Splin 14 July 2012 17: 57
            0
            Therefore, it is necessary to restructure. Fuck there tuberculosis department or psychiatry. All the same, everyone is sent to closed hospitals.
    4. KOMOd Shpakov
      KOMOd Shpakov 14 July 2012 17: 34
      +1
      Dear, in fact, the issue of full reduction is being hindered by the lack of funds for the disbandment, so we have only reduced it so far, especially after a wave of indignation from people. Now they want to transfer to Dnipro with a beer dock. But in any case, it will not be. For your information, all buildings and structures have already been sold and people are already looking for a place. So how do I know how to ring, so far, thank God, it’s okay with the rumor. If you have more detailed information and plans regarding the hospital from the part of those in power, I will listen with pleasure. Sincerely. Do not judge strictly for debut. By the way, zinc about the artillery school was also that some faculties, in particular training RAV specialists, are slowly moving back to Lviv. But I'm 100% sure of that. So draw conclusions gentlemen and comrades.
      1. Splin
        Splin 14 July 2012 17: 53
        0
        Quote: KomOd Shpakov
        If you have more detailed information and plans regarding the hospital on the part of those in power, then I will listen with pleasure. Sincerely. Do not judge strictly for debut

        We will not share the sources, but only one building will remain in the structure of the hospital - the 5th floor. All other corps will go under the direct submission of the General Staff. Nobody will touch the territory, just the checkpoint will be transferred to the museum square. What will happen to the fate of the rest of the buildings is not known to me. If they demolish the old buildings, then only the Voyentorg and the internship, and part of the boxes to build houses like at the headquarters of the air corps (I call in the old fashioned way). This is what they will do next with the houses - I'm not a chess player. Most likely they will sell. For an apartment in the center you can get two equal apartments in Pascot. Or will they be given to their officers?
  6. Borodach
    Borodach 14 July 2012 11: 16
    +2
    I really won’t be surprised if this happens. But in real life this is the strongest medical facility in Odessa. No Intosans are good enough. earns money with her professionalism.
    1. Splin
      Splin 14 July 2012 11: 24
      -1
      You saw that frontier hospital. You’ll find a horseradish. One building and he hid behind the district administration. And they do not liquidate 411 OVG - they reduce the number of beds. This money that the hospital earns does not go to useful needs, but settles in pockets from the department, to the head of the garrison.
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 14 July 2012 12: 11
        0
        I saw the border guards hospital, and what was left of the Dzherzhinsky sanatorium, sanatoriums and rest houses of the Moscow Region. Where are they?
        1. Splin
          Splin 14 July 2012 12: 18
          -1
          What can I show with my finger on Yushch, Timokha and Litvin’s younger brother?
          1. Captain Vrungel
            Captain Vrungel 14 July 2012 12: 30
            +1
            No, start with Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yanukovych and before these., Including the middle brother Litvin.
      2. Evgeny B.
        Evgeny B. 14 July 2012 15: 34
        +1
        Quote: Splin
        This money that the hospital earns does not go to useful needs, but settles in pockets from the department, to the head of the garrison.

        Sorry, you are so fond of counting other people's money into the pockets of others ...
        And the people cured in this hospital, do not they work for the country ?? And how much benefit they bring, why didn’t you calculate it ?? And if people cured there became disabled or died while being treated in other places where konovalov accountants prevail, and not doctors, then how much would the state have a loss ??? - why don't you think that !!!
        My wife, thank God, was treated in this hospital, and we were able to pay for this treatment, and in other places - we did not have enough money! So, my wife was better off dying, do you think? Besides, only in this hospital can one rely on qualified help - I emphasize this !!
        So, the closure of this hospital or its "revision" is a DIVERSION against its own people. Otherwise I don’t understand it. Sorry for the emotionality, I remembered the situation with my wife.
        1. Splin
          Splin 14 July 2012 15: 52
          -1
          I don’t count other people's money, I count my money, because I was a pensioner of Moscow Oblast, who had to pay extra from my pocket. I have a friend, also an officer. My wife broke her arm; he came to take 2 pieces of greenery from me for an operation. One metal bullshit cost 10000 shit. But she should receive medical care there for free. But because of the large state and territory, all the money from the Moscow Region goes to the maintenance of the hospital. Of course, everyone has their own misfortune and their own vision, but why should officers receive a penny and still have to support civilians with this money ?!
          1. Evgeny B.
            Evgeny B. 14 July 2012 16: 20
            +1
            Quote: Splin
            why should officers get a penny and still have to support civilians with that money ?!

            Why they get a penny is a question for the government and the Moscow Region.
            As for the civilians: didn’t you think that the hospital already gets a penny both for its maintenance and for the salaries of specialists? And, in order to ENSURE THE OPPORTUNITY to help you, the military, and not lose your staff, the hospital accepts civilians. T.O. THANKS that the hospital accepts CIVIL, he can help you, the military. And if this were not the case, then you would have to be treated, for example, in Intosan or somewhere else, and there you would have to pay at the most European rates.
            And yet, what unpleasantly surprised me was your disdain for "civilians." I understand that you and your families should receive priority in honey. service in the hospital, but there it is already done, but if the hospital has the ability to serve civilians without priority, why not?
            1. Splin
              Splin 14 July 2012 16: 44
              -1
              How are you helping us? This is extra-departmental money; they do not pass on the budget. To whom your money helps, I already wrote earlier. You are all being treated at our expense for the fact that the communal services are paid by the Moscow Oblast, and the staff is paid by the Moscow Oblast. And the salary of the military doctor lieutenant colonel 3700, and the salary of a nurse is not small. naturally, reduction is not profitable for them.
              And what about military salaries. The major receives 2800, for Odessa, it is minuscule and "plows" for 12 hours. And when such a misfortune occurs, he cannot even take out a loan. And all his acquaintances from the same environment with asterisks. Few got a job in civilian life.
              And from medical care a free bed, a thermometer and a band. If you want better, go buy like everyone else. That's when they will reduce to the required level - then the money will go to buy not only Papazol and dipyrone, but also other drugs. And the fighter in the unit will receive for his donated blood not 30 hryvnias and a glass of sweet tea, but the prescribed amount.
              1. Evgeny B.
                Evgeny B. 14 July 2012 17: 05
                +1
                Quote: Splin
                That's when they will reduce to the required level - then the money will go to buy not only Papazol and dipyrone, but also other drugs. And the fighter in the unit will receive for his donated blood not 30 hryvnias and a glass of sweet tea, but the prescribed amount.

                With your mouth - yes honey to drink. We'll see how it goes. But as my first leader told me: the best is the enemy of the good.
                Despite the folk wisdom, I want to hope for the best.
                Health to you.
                1. Splin
                  Splin 14 July 2012 17: 33
                  -1
                  Thanks. I have no disdain for "civilian" - I myself have been like this for 10 years. It's just a shame when people extrapolate their private opinion into a general assessment. They like the current situation with the hospital - they don't want anything new. Moreover, they scold the authorities and the army, but do not want to see any shifts. Even the military who do not serve in the troops measure everything in salary. And those who shoot, fly, jump, take the salary to second place. It is necessary not to express a subjective opinion (I would have remembered about my own money, if not forced), but to analyze the overall assessment. And "cutting" the dough in the army can be done in a different way than touching such hot public opinion on the territory of the hospital, artukhi and rear.
  7. itr
    itr 14 July 2012 11: 56
    0
    Judging by the facade, someone just needed a freebie building
    1. Splin
      Splin 14 July 2012 12: 11
      -1
      Actually, this is just a checkpoint. And Artukha has a cooler building. but they didn’t sell it!
      1. Captain Vrungel
        Captain Vrungel 14 July 2012 12: 43
        0
        Splin! That you are misleading people. What kind of checkpoint is this? This is the main building of the artillery school, but the two howitzers at the entrance and the banner "OUR GOAL COMMUNISM" disappeared.
        1. Splin
          Splin 14 July 2012 12: 55
          0
          I explained that in the top picture there was only a 411 OVG checkpoint. And at the main entrance of the artukh stood a mortar and a howitzer. They did not disappear, they simply moved to a 411 battery. And when the Kumach was hanging, the platform stood on the other side. And in general, what is happening with artukha now I do not want to show. Thank you ga..on Gritsenko !.
  8. Samosval
    Samosval 14 July 2012 12: 51
    +3
    Watch out for the "neighbors" before you start! Who only have the district hospital reduced (for reference in St. Petersburg, the district 442 hospital has long been "castrated") Pay attention to the reduction and relocation of VMEDA named after Kirov. This event is much worse and more negligent than some kind of hospital.

    Incidentally, the only institution in the post-Soviet space of this level. And let us further discuss the fate of the Odessa Regional Military Hospital. With all due respect to Ukraine ..

    I think the history and role of the academy in the history of our country is not necessary.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 14 July 2012 14: 45
      0
      Well, as I recall, Perdyuk decided that military doctors tries ... are not needed, in general, sourcing drives (it will especially steer in wartime) ...
    2. Evgeny B.
      Evgeny B. 14 July 2012 16: 58
      0
      Quote: Samosval
      total district hospital overwhelmed

      A large building falls when load-bearing structures are destroyed. Therefore, due to the destruction of district hospitals, Academies are falling, so do not confuse cause and effect. Good luck.
      1. Samosval
        Samosval 14 July 2012 17: 29
        0
        You are a little confusing here ...
        1. Samosval
          Samosval 14 July 2012 17: 32
          0
          Of course, this is a big loss for the Armed Forces of Ukraine. But I'm talking about something else.
  9. suharev-52
    suharev-52 14 July 2012 15: 24
    +2
    In Ukraine, in Ukraine, the foam of perestroika has risen to power. And what pops up, I think no comments are needed. It’s a pity, it’s a pity when they destroy what was created for decades by the labor of the whole people. Sincerely.
    1. Samosval
      Samosval 14 July 2012 16: 26
      +2
      If for decades, we are talking about the country's first military hospital and the world's oldest medical academy.
  10. Stasi.
    Stasi. 14 July 2012 19: 30
    0
    Very sad article. The words about the reduction of the hospital are actually its liquidation, the damage to the military medicine of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. In Russia, unfortunately, the situation is no better. Recently, information was received about the closure of the Military Medical Academy in St. Petersburg. It is not difficult to predict how much damage our military medicine will suffer and how this will affect the training of professional medical personnel for the army. Against the background of all this, one should hardly be surprised at the increase in the incidence in the army and the low qualifications of existing doctors. And the remaining professionals are too few to influence the situation.
    1. Samosval
      Samosval 14 July 2012 23: 27
      +1
      This is not about closing, but about moving. But as folk wisdom says: "2 crossings are comparable to a fire." Before talking about moving, a few years ago the academy had already been greatly reduced and beheaded. And the Military Medical Academy, I can remind you not only of the only place in Russia for the training of military doctors (they are not trained anywhere else, and all the graduates of civil medical universities since 2010 are not even obliged to military service, which is already a kalosal problem for the Armed Forces) , but also the strongest medical institution in the country.
  11. katarsis
    katarsis 14 July 2012 19: 43
    -2
    It’s ridiculous to see how some Russians complain and almost kill themselves at the Ukrainian hospital, while in Russia dozens of hospitals are reduced, disbanded, or transferred to a civilian department. And everyone has a long history. How many disabled people, military pensioners were left without medical care, in many settlements this is the only way to get qualified help, the best doctors worked in hospitals, ordinary hospitals and were out of place and what did the authorities do? Where does the Putin-Serdyukovsky monster look?
    Where are the articles, screams, tears and beating yourself in the chest? ....
  12. iulai
    iulai 15 July 2012 19: 33
    +2
    an agent of the West Gorbachev, did everything that he was ordered by the international Zionist center. This center located in New York systematically destroys Russia as the basis and center of pro-Orthodoxy. all the wives of the Soviet leaders were Jewish, but the Jews achieved the greatest success when the Andropov Jew became the first person of the USSR! that’s why some Jews ended up on TV and other media. Jews in Russia 0.2%, and in the Duma and the Jewish government about 60%. one gets the impression that only Jews are in power, especially on TV! where are the Russians? maybe it's true that they are dumb? 86% in Russia are Russian, so in the Duma, in government, in government institutions, in show business and in other institutions, 86% should be Russians! Enough of us different pozner, Svanidze, who teach us life!

    you need to write down and save the names of people who give such criminal decisions! the time will come and the thieves will leave, but then impose fines on them and lose their pension. them and their children forever ban work in the state. service, this is the worst punishment for them.