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"Cloak suddenly spoke." Russian language and the bad tradition of the intelligentsia

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The "talking cesspool" meeting?



On November 5, a meeting of the Presidential Council on the Russian Language was held in the Catherine’s Hall of the Kremlin. The Council, led by Vladimir Vladimirovich, convened in order to further steadily advance the interests of the Russian language and the people who speak it.

They probably already knew that our language was called cloacal, fascist ... To the screams, screams and hooting of the raging crowds of "intelligentsia" they decided to openly demonstrate their "handshake", for which I say a special human thanks to all of them.

Just in case, a little background to the matter, since the Council meeting itself cannot be considered outside the context in which it took place. And the context is as follows: recently, Gasan Huseynov, a philologist, professor at the Higher School of Economics, publicly called the Russian language "cloacal" and "wretched." More precisely, it’s not generally Russian, but modern Russian, which, according to his advocates, automatically gives him indulgence and translates his statement from the category of insults to the category of criticism.


The campaign in his defense is not inferior in its mass character and intensity to the wave of indignation that these words aroused. Many truly “shaking hands” of our fellow citizens, including his HSE colleagues, took part in it. One of them, Sergei Medvedev, for example, managed to disagree with his friend and colleague Hasan, but he made it so that the Russian language turned out to be “fascist”, and not “cloacal,” but all who expressed their indignation at what had happened and generally then stood up for his native language, called "talking cesspool."

Over the past years, it has been institutionalized, formalized into public organizations, groups of authorized citizens (veterans, believers, Cossacks, officers, mothers, etc.) and mechanisms for writing denunciations and letters to the prosecutor's office. There are, of course, salary bot factories and bloggers who are now working on Hasan, but in general this speech spontaneously and sublimates in the collective body, it does not need money and directions, it is ready to kill for words in order to reproduce its biological, organic unity. It is precisely in this, in the fascist compulsion to collective speech, that the profound cloacism of the language lies, which it revealed (perhaps not wanting it to), the post of Hasan - cloaca suddenly spoke.



Let's start by noting something for ourselves. Firstly, the philologist and professor somehow bears some responsibility for the current state of the language he is engaged in and speaks. I could somehow accept the idea that a person is boiling and he simply expressed himself in his hearts, if for many years he openly expressed his protest with the state of affairs in the Russian language, held some actions, fought against the fact that , in his opinion, makes the Russian language "wretched and foul." But no, I didn’t hear about such a struggle, everything suited the person, worked (and works!) For the state, which is now to blame for everything, receives a salary, the lion's share of which consists of taxes withheld from representatives of the same “cesspool”.

I understand, of course, that this is very consistent with the traditions of our "intelligentsia" - bowing, thanking the owner, while keeping the fig in your pocket. But somehow not masculine, agree? You’ll be fired, go to private bread, and then voice your private opinion.

Secondly, there are doubts about the professional competence of citizen Huseynov. To confuse language and spoken language is a mistake from which students of the philology faculty try to wean from the first, it seems, course. Especially since, as follows from the explanations, the speech implied was some groups of the population, that is, it was not even a dialect or professional slang.

Honored Russophobe of Russia


Nevertheless, the professors managed to call him a fighter for the purity of the Russian language, remembered his "merits" to the great and mighty. Moreover, among the defenders there are many famous and influential people. The liberal media also made their modest contribution. Here's how the situation, for example, Novaya Gazeta described:
On October 29, a well-known philologist, professor Hasan Huseynov wrote on his Facebook page a note that in Russia people do not always know how to use the wealth of the Russian language.


Nice one, right? A famous philologist, professor, said a very good and important thing. And, you see, the “talking cesspool” attacked him! ..

I dwell on this case in such detail, not because I like it or interesting it. Moreover, I completely share the opinion of one of my friends who said something like this: “These philologists do not feel the language at all. So he would call the Russian language, suppose, “shitty”, so it would be for which he would fill his face. And here, "foul" - just flush this professor into the toilet bowl with his opinion, and never remember again. "

But alas, have to remember. If only because it is a profession that educates our youth. And when one calls our language “cloaked”, and the second, from the same educational institution (excuse me, the language doesn’t dare to call it a university), his friend and colleague calls it “fascist”, getting into lengthy arguments about Russian aggression against Ukraine, you start to think about what is taught in this Higher School.

In general, participants in the Presidential Council on the Russian language, including the president himself, should understand one thing: if you don’t react to such attacks, then one of the mentioned Gasanov and Medvedev will sit on this council. But what, prominent figures, are so sincerely arguing about the Russian language, it is clear that they are concerned about the problem, they are worried ...

Give me money, Vladimir Vladimirovich!


Now a little about the Council itself. The first thing that caught my eye was the focus of many of its participants on the solution of a single, often highly departmental problem. “Give me the money, Vladimir Vladimirovich!” This, perhaps, was the leitmotif of at least the entire first third of the meeting. Give money for the program, for the dictionary, for the museum, for the anniversary of Pushkin, for ...


Photo by: kremlin.ru

This somehow cuts my eyes when you get acquainted with the transcript of the meeting. No, I don’t venture to argue - in most cases the tasks and goals are right, it’s a sin not to give money. Here, something else is important, namely, that there is no systematic work in the country, if with each important project it is necessary to go to the president himself. Vladimir Vladimirovich, do you have ministers? They cannot solve these issues without your personal involvement? So lather them, I apologize for my Russian neck! Maybe then such questions will be resolved systematically, without your personal participation, and similar councils from a bunch of walkers who came from the petition to the king will finally turn into success reports?

Another important point voiced at the very beginning by the president himself. Goal setting, so to speak:
Under these conditions, we face two equally important tasks. The first is to provide a decent level of knowledge, general literacy of Russian citizens and thereby global competitiveness, the attractiveness of the Russian language as a modern, living, dynamically developing means of communication. The second is to implement an effective system for supporting the Russian language environment abroad in the information, educational, and humanitarian fields.


Forgive me, Vladimir Vladimirovich, that I again insert my “five kopecks”, but who said that these tasks are “equal”? For example, it doesn’t seem like this to me: even if Africa doesn’t know a single Russian word, we will somehow survive it. This, Vladimir Vladimirovich, is a fact from the category of minor troubles, no more. But the literacy of Russian citizens is such an important task that it’s hard to even think of something that could compare with it.

And although I can be challenged in some part, it’s very important for someone that the Mumba Yumba tribe should have two or three teachers of Russian literature, but still, I think, 99% of Russians will support me: it’s even close not equal tasks.

True, there is an exception: Russian people in Ukraine. Here I agree: it is important, it is extremely important to ensure that they can freely speak their native language. True, I noticed you have one caveat, for which I sincerely thank you:
As for those facilities that are located abroad - unfortunately, today abroad, in Moldova - we will talk with the authorities.


Maybe start working?


They spoke a lot about the Russian teachers, who are few. They are not cooked enough, even fewer of them are going to work in schools, and many, having worked, run away from there. I will not venture to give any advice on tariff schedules and academic workload - here I’m unlikely to say anything clever. But one good advice I still have ...

You, Vladimir Vladimirovich, say that the teacher’s salary should be at the average level in the region, no less. And many smile joyfully at the same time - it must be what happiness is about to roll over. It has already “rolled over” to many, by the way, only they are not happy about something - a teacher can earn more or less normally only by multiplying the teaching load. And this, imagine, is hard ...

So, Vladimir Vladimirovich, there is an opinion that the teacher's salary should be higher than the regional average or industry average. Yes, imagine - above. Precisely because “Today is the children, tomorrow the people!” Trying to save on teachers, we save on children, on the future of our people, and this is no good.

You ask, where is the money? And this is very simple: if we reduce a million and a half of our officials, we won’t even feel it. But the budgets of all levels will immediately be felt, since our officials earn "with dignity", not a single region has complained about the deficit of officials. And here such a window of opportunity appears that it’s just breathtaking: teachers’s salaries can be increased, and the line from yesterday’s officials to schools will be built, there will be contests for teaching work. By the way, many of them have specialized higher education, many of them have gone from schools to different "prefectures".


Photo by: kremlin.ru

I understand perfectly well, of course, that a mess is often going on at local levels, that any order can be perverted, distorted, simply not executed. And I'm even glad that you finally expressed concern about this state of affairs:
Once again, I want to draw your attention to the fact that under the Constitution, unfortunately, the municipal level of government is separate from the state. We made international commitments, but somehow it was too painstakingly zealously beginning to fulfill them and such a norm was laid down in the country's Basic Law. In practice, this means that the primary level of health care, including in the countryside, turned out to be virtually cut off from the regional, provincial and federal. The same thing is absolutely happening in education. In any case, that’s how it turned out in practice. And there, as a rule, there is not enough money for either one or the other or the third. Or maybe enough, but spend on other purposes.


But the authority you have, dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, is quite enough not to consider this problem as such. The State Duma, which some detractors sometimes call your "printer", will be happy to accept the necessary amendments to the Constitution. So it's time to roll up your sleeves and start working.
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  1. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 November 2019 06: 19
    +26
    So what? In Moscow in some areas, soon you will not hear the Russian language at all. And the capital itself is turned into a zoo for tourists. Especially in the subway, they already speak English more often.
    Illiteracy at all levels. The top constantly demonstrates its loyalty to partners.
    1. Civil
      Civil 11 November 2019 07: 43
      +2
      Now in the comments friendship of peoples will begin to grow stronger! laughing
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 11 November 2019 08: 49
        +5
        He called the Russian language "foul" and "wretched." More precisely, not generally Russian language
        In any case, the professor of philologist at the Higher School of Economics did not speak "in Russian". It is difficult to understand that his scandalous statements related not to the Russian language itself, but to its modern development and use, as his "lawyers" assert.

        It is significant that Putin is also not satisfied with the current state of the language, and therefore demanded to streamline the norms of the Russian language. The truth did it without scandalous comparisons and did not cause any complaints.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 23
          +17
          Quote: Stas157
          It is significant that Putin is also not satisfied with the current state of the language, and therefore demanded to streamline the norms of the Russian language.

          Isn't it time to remove all foreign philologists and different interpreters of our native language from all educational institutions of Russia, let them simply be "state workers", in Russia we have our own people of different nationalities inhabiting the country from time immemorial, so they must study the language. I cannot imagine that in Azerbaijan a Russian teacher could say that about the Azerbaijani language. Although you need to ask Huseynov Hasan himself about this, what will he answer, and why did no one ask him about this? And what do Azerbaijanis think about Huseynov's statements?
          1. astepanov
            astepanov 11 November 2019 15: 20
            -5
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Isn't it time they all foreign philologists and various interpreters of our native language in their own way to remove from all educational institutions of Russia, let them be just "state workers"

            And who told you that Huseynov is "a foreign philologist? Did he show you his passport? I bring to your attention: he is a Soviet and Russian philologist. And you, venerable, are a Nazi."
            One way or another, the philologist and professor bears some responsibility for the current state of the language he is engaged in and speaks.
            And he carries it. Huseynov is the author of several books and over a hundred articles on classical philology and cultural history, contemporary politics and literature. One of the authors of the "Mythological Dictionary" and the encyclopedia "Myths of the Nations of the World". Or does the author of the article believe that Huseynov needs to participate in parties like "Let them talk", "You won't believe", in daily political shows with bickering, rude leading and tongue-tied participants? Finally, maybe it is Guseinov who is to blame for the fact that for many years schools have not taught how to write essays, replacing them with outright profanity, and the level of teachers is falling - because "innovations" in the field of education have reduced the teaching staff to the state of a poor, powerless group, and because young people do not want to go to teacher training universities?
            And the last thing. The media Russian language, in fact, is becoming more and more the language of New Ham - all sorts of dogs, animals, lolitas, cords and others like them - both from the "secular" and from the political get-together. It is about such a Russian language - clumsy, marketplace, scanty and deceitful - that Huseynov says. I do not like? Then nothing will help you.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 11 November 2019 15: 24
              +19
              Honored Russophobe of Russia

              Russians can arbitrarily indignantly rumble over a Russophobe, HSE professor of Azerbaijan philology, Hasan Huseynov, an Azerbaijani Jew, if you don’t understand where and when, in such cases, the political wind blows! Namely.

              First of all, you need to go back to the days of Vel. Oct social revolution in Russia in 1917 and the formation of the USSR on the administrative-territorial basis of the so-called. "titular" nationalities. Namely.
              Together with Vel. Oct social The revolution in Russia also brought about a geopolitical nationalist coup. Russia from the state of the historically primordial RUSSIAN people, who took under their protection other nations seeking protection and support from it, has turned into a state of NATIONAL MINORITIES.
              The Russophosian national policy of the Bolsheviks — Lenin and Trotsky — ultimately led, like a time bomb, to the collapse of the country along the borders of this territorial-administrative division on a national basis.
              By the way, the condition for the support of all 10 social-democratic parties from the West (Western special services) was precisely the division of the territory of Russia on the national-territorial basis with the right to secede from the country. And this is possible only on Russophobia and the deprivation of Russian to participate in government bodies of the country.

              That is why the Vel.Oct.revolution was not so much Russian as Jewish-Zionist — both in the logically contradictory ideology of K. Marx and in its main Zionist driving forces — on the hump of the Russian people.
              This was very well understood by Stalin. For this, his Trotskyists also hated.

              Rusofobe Hasan Huseynov - an Azerbaijani Jew by birth - this phenomenon is only significant confirmation.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 11 November 2019 15: 31
                -21
                Quote: Tatiana
                The Great October Revolution was not so much Russian as Jewish - both in ideology and in driving forces - on the hump of the Russian people.
                Rusophobe Hasan Huseynov - Azerbaijani Jew by birth

                Well, here quite frank fascists erupted. Who would doubt ...
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 11 November 2019 15: 34
                  +11
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Well, here quite frank fascists erupted. Who would doubt ...

                  Do not confuse "God's gift with scrambled eggs"! If you do not know how to analyze, then it would be better for you to be silent and not throw labels!
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 11 November 2019 18: 13
                    -10
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    If you do not know how to analyze, then it would be better for you to be silent and not to throw labels!
                    These are not labels. Nationalism, coupled with the idea of ​​infringing on the rights of "foreigners" is the main sign of fascism.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 11 November 2019 19: 22
                      +5
                      Quote: astepanov
                      Nationalism, coupled with the idea of ​​infringing on the rights of "foreigners" is the main sign of fascism.

                      And the infringement of the rights of the Russian people and the genocide of the Russian people in their original historical homeland in their country by foreigners - representatives of national minorities - this, in your opinion, is not yet "the main sign of fascism"?!
                      Bandera and Ukrainian Nazis are not fascists? Yes? And your Zionists, apparently, are also "white" and "fluffy" "holy" people? Yes, too?
                      Remember at least the Dudaev regime with its Islamist Ichkeria! Etc., etc.

                      You are completely lost in matters of national politics! Just wondering who you are by nationality? Surely not Russian!
                      1. astepanov
                        astepanov 11 November 2019 20: 07
                        -13
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Just wondering who you are by nationality? Surely not Russian!

                        Here it is. When the provocateur has nothing to say, he first yells about nationality. But, mother, it is the foreign gentlemen who are primarily engaged in inciting ethnic hatred. What grant are you on? Who are your hosts? And show me the pedigree: who is your hell out there?
                      2. astepanov
                        astepanov 11 November 2019 20: 10
                        -8
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        And the infringement of the rights of the Russian people and the genocide of the Russian people in their ancestral historical homeland in their country by foreigners - representatives of national minorities - this, in your opinion, is not yet "the main sign of fascism" Bandera and Ukrainian Nazis are not fascists? Yes? And your Zionists, apparently, are also "white" and "fluffy" "holy" people? Also yes ??!

                        Here you are. Ukraine is your historical homeland, in a compartment with Israel. KK, moreover, a typically Jewish manner of answering a question with a question — to evade the answer.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 11 November 2019 22: 51
                        +2
                        Quote: astepanov
                        Here you are. Ukraine is your historical homeland, in a compartment with Israel. KK, moreover, a typically Jewish manner of answering a question with a question — to evade the answer.

                        Absolutely all the same, I can now say about you! You are our quirky demagogue!
                      4. cost
                        cost 12 November 2019 21: 53
                        +1
                        Tatyana: And your Zionists, apparently, are also "white" and "fluffy" "holy" people? Yes, too? Remember Dudaev's regime

                        Marshal burns not for detski fellow
                        the squadron probably urgently googles Dudayev’s pedigree wassat
                      5. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 12 November 2019 22: 05
                        +5
                        Quote: Rich
                        the marshal is burning a squadron not on a deci, probably urgently googling Dudaev’s pedigree
                        Well, how is it possible to snatch part of a phrase out of the general context? It is written clearly!
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Bandera and Ukrainian Nazis are not fascists? Yes? And your Zionists, apparently, are also "white" and "fluffy" "holy" people? Yes, too?
                        Remember at least the Dudaev regime with its Islamist Ichkeria! Etc., etc.
                        Ukrainian Nazis-Bandera separately.
                        Zionists separately.
                        Dudaev Muslims in Ichkeria separately.
                        Etc., etc.
                    2. Revival
                      Revival 15 November 2019 14: 11
                      0
                      Do you basically understand the difference between nationalism, Nazism, fascism?
                      Or do you just have fascism always and everywhere?
                2. Alena Frolovna
                  Alena Frolovna 11 November 2019 15: 40
                  +16
                  bad tradition of the intelligentsia

                  “The intelligentsia,” wrote the Russian poet and critic N.M. Sokolov, “... in the depths of their souls fully shares Voltaire's idea:“ the people will always remain stupid and ignorant: this cattle, which only needs a yoke, whip and hay ”.
                  During their infatuation with the people, the "intelligentsia" tried to hammer him into a heavy yoke, bridle him with a whip, and brought him the worst hay. "

                  It was written in 1904 and nothing has changed since then. All these "lusts" of the imaginary "intelligentsia" are evident.

                  And as Archimandrite Kirill wrote to me for this quote:
                  “Now she is generally unable to carry any sort of hay. From the once educated class degenerates into the educated. But he likes to portray "pride and prejudice."
                  Better not tell.
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                3. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 11 November 2019 17: 23
                  +6
                  Quote: astepanov
                  Well, here quite frank fascists erupted. Who would doubt it ..

                  You call Tatyana a fascist, you call me Natsik. These are those people who do not want their Motherland, their Mother tongue and the memory of their ancestors to be offended by Russophobia, you call it that, then who will you be yourself Mr. Astepanov?
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 11 November 2019 18: 38
                    +1
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    You call Tatyana a fascist, you call me Natsik.

                    Read what is called fascism and compare with your statements. You look and you will understand. But hardly. Russia has indeed gone wild in hatred and intolerance (read the comments, including your own). And the Russian language in it is defiled by the media, and by the get-togethers of the "creative elite", and by the complete collapse of education in general and in part of the Russian language in particular. Is Huseynov to blame for this? Do you remember what films are broadcast to us, what songs are sung: "You kiss me everywhere, I'm eighteen already", "Hi, baby, don't we get fucked"? Ask any student to name at least a dozen books by classic authors - and he will not name them. I'm not talking about reading. And again I will ask: is Huseynov to blame? Did he come up with EG? Did he give up writing at school? By the way, I'm sure: you yourself haven't read his entire post. How similar it is to our traditional: "I have not read, but I angrily condemn." We will soon demand the execution of the "philologists-saboteurs". Can't you see what we've come to?
                    1. Vanek
                      Vanek 15 November 2019 03: 59
                      +1
                      Quote: astepanov
                      . And the Russian language is spoiled in it


                      WHAT DO YOU HORRY IN RUSSIAN WRITE ??????

                      And one more thing. Styopa, nationalism and Nazism are different things!
              2. Catfish
                Catfish 11 November 2019 15: 41
                +9
                But Comrade Stalin slightly corrected the situation, if I am not mistaken, it was on his instructions that the fifth column was introduced in the passport? And in the Politburo he left only Kaganovich for divorce.
                "We are accused of anti-Semitism, but who, then, is Kaganovich, may I ask?" - His words about the attacks of the West on the USSR.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 11 November 2019 15: 52
                  +8
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  But Comrade Stalin slightly corrected the situation, if I am not mistaken, it was on his instructions that the fifth column was introduced in the passport? And in the Politburo he left only Kaganovich for divorce.

                  That's right! If it were not for Stalin and his victory over the Zionist-Trotskyist nest in the CPSU (b) and the Central Committee of the CPSU, Russia, as such, in the form of the world's first socialist state, would have disappeared geopolitically from the face of the Earth already in 1941, and not in the "Gorbachev- Yeltsin "1991
              3. My doctor
                My doctor 11 November 2019 17: 09
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                Russia from the state of the historically primordial RUSSIAN people, who took under their protection other nations seeking protection and support from it, has turned into a state of NATIONAL MINORITIES.

                Really belay
                In your opinion, the problem of separatism did not appear in Russia at that time due to its weakness. There was no civil unrest in Ukraine? There was no national unrest in the Caucasian and Asian lands?
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 11 November 2019 18: 06
                  -5
                  Quote: MyVrach
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Russia from the state of the historically primordial RUSSIAN people, who took under their protection other nations seeking protection and support from it, has turned into a state of NATIONAL MINORITIES.
                  Really belay
                  In your opinion, the problem of separatism did not appear in Russia at that time due to its weakness. There was no civil unrest in Ukraine? There was no national unrest in the Caucasian and Asian lands?

                  And what do you mean by that?

                  1. You want to DECLINE the importance of the domineering worldview component of the Russian people in multinational Russia over the so-called non-Russians. by the "titular" national chauvinists in the Russian outskirts during the Civil War?
                  2. Want to justify the total destruction of Russians by titular nationalists on the outskirts of Russia?
                  3. This is what, in your opinion, this feudal and petty-bourgeois chauvinism of the so-called. "titular" nationalists contributed to the unity of Russia in 1917 and during the Civil War? Or did the HOLD mentality of the Russian people save the country from its final collapse, on which the same Entente countries — Britain, France, and the United States — worked?

                  Therefore, I say that Vel.Oct.sots. the revolution took place on the GORB of the Russian people, who had to defend themselves against the chauvinism of non-Russian nationalists of ALL MASTS!

                  What you do not understand here?
                  1. My doctor
                    My doctor 11 November 2019 20: 00
                    +1
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    You want to belittle the importance of the domineering worldview component of the Russian people in multinational Russia over the so-called non-Russians. "titular" national chauvinists in the Russian outskirts during the Civil War?

                    A sovereign worldview? no, I have not heard. There is an ordinary, mythological, religious, scientific worldview of the sovereign did not hear. I think not the people held the territory, but the power that held the people. What do you want to say that the Russian people had a need for the steppes of Kazakhstan, the fields of Uzbekistan, etc. this was necessary primarily to the then elite merchants and princes.
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                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 11 November 2019 22: 26
                      +2
                      Quote: MyVrach
                      A sovereign worldview? no, I have not heard
                      I will explain to you what the HOLD on national psychology is (there is such a scientific discipline). Namely.

                      Even if all peoples and nations in society are not considered from the class standpoint, all the same, according to the laws of psychology, among peoples and nations in the world and in a separate multinational. the state will be the leading nations, which basically determine the line of development of both the whole society and a particular multinational. state-va and lead other nations.
                      Moreover, in any mngonaz. state-ve, as in any ethnic group, between individual peoples and nations there is a struggle for national leadership. And it is important to be able to distinguish a real Leidel people from a pseudo-leader people for this multinational. state va.
                      The true leader nation in multinational. state always has the mentality of HOLD, those. his nat. the mentality is aimed not only at one’s own well-being, but also at the well-being of all peoples in a given multinational. the state.
                      If the so-called the leader nation does not possess the mentality of sovereignty, it is only a pseudo-leader nation, since its own mentality is selfishly limited to creating prosperity only for its people and at the expense of other peoples in this country. The people-pseudo-leader do not give a damn about the defense of the inherent multinational ethnos of its statehood.

                      Moreover, the very threat of the collapse and disappearance of all this multinational is already. an ethnos, together with its state, objectively historically contributes to exposing a pseudo-leader people in demagogy, expelling them from the government and nominating a true leader nation as a NATURAL and REQUIRED step to their irrational self-preservation as the leadership of the country (all multinational ethnos).

                      TOTAL A HOLD ethnos should be economically, politically and numerically self-sufficient in order to be able to take care not only of itself, but also of other peoples in this multinational. the state. Otherwise, it’s multinational. the state will objectively after some time disintegrate into nat. plan and will become dependent on other peoples and states.
                      1. astepanov
                        astepanov 12 November 2019 17: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        The true leader nation in multinational. state always has the mentality of HOLD, i.e. his nat. the mentality is aimed not only at one’s own well-being, but also at the well-being of all peoples in a given multinational. the state.

                        Ek you, mother, stuck! It turns out that Ivan the Fourth could not eat - he was still thinking how to ensure the well-being of, say, the residents of the Kazan Khanate. And the whole Russian people, including the last serf, smears a sandwich in the morning - how are the Tatar people there? Well, they led the army to Kazan, and they, stupid, didn’t want to go into a bright life - they had to follow the faces, along the faces ...
                        No, my dear, the army went there not at all in caring for the Tatars (and later - the Bashkirs, Mari, Caucasians ...), but thanks to politics and economics. Just as Zapal created colonial empires not at all out of concern for poor Indians, Papuans, Arabs and other negroes. Profit and security - that's what drove, and the "national mentality" - a consequence of propaganda. Thank God, our ethnic strife subsided for a while. But you again climb with mysticism, with the idea of ​​God's chosen people and their "special sovereign" mentality. Did you want a fireman? I wonder what the pens are going to heat on.
                      2. Revival
                        Revival 15 November 2019 14: 22
                        +2
                        Then compare the actions of Spain, France, England in the controlled territories and ours.
                        There is a huge difference, if we also behaved on the annexed lands, the number of peoples in the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia would be much less
                      3. My doctor
                        My doctor 12 November 2019 19: 57
                        -1
                        This is what you wrote. Read out. Thanks for the work.
                        But in the written did not find a single scientifically similar expression.
                        For example.
                        Let's say the term "irrational self-preservation" - how to explain? Personally, I believe that self-preservation is a rational aspiration not only of people, animal and plant worlds, but also of everything (or almost everything). And the irrational is something that contradicts logic and is opposed to the rational.
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 12 November 2019 21: 49
                        +2
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        Let's say the term "irrational self-preservation" - how to explain?
                        In psychology, the foundations of the political struggle are examined, among which, first of all, the ability to purposefully influence people is highlighted - a factor that largely determines the overall success of any politician or leader.
                        When we talk about managing an ethnic group, then all the goals of human life are divided into 3 groups:
                        1. Biological.
                        2. Socio-biological
                        3. Social.
                        Over the implementation of biological and socio-biological goals man, usually, does not think, but does it instinctively. Поэтому they are also called IRRATIONAL.
                        What are these goals? It:
                        1. Self preservation. 2. Extension of the genus. 3. Saving the view. 4. Small group leadership. 5. Frontal leadership. 6. Hierarchical leadership.
                        It has long been known that it is easier to meet irrational needs for a certain number of people if they join forces. This principle underlies the emergence of any ethnic group. (labor. collective, party, people, nation, etc.)
                        Acting in relations with other ethnic groups as a subject of struggle, each ethnic group seeks to increase the effectiveness of its actions as a whole and to minimize conflicts between people within itself (to establish an effective procedure for resolving them). For this, there are so-called values ​​of an ethnic group or category of Abundance, Good, Beauty, Truth. They Rationalize human needs, i.e. explain his behavior from the point of view of the Just and Unjust, Good and Evil, Beautiful and Ugly, Truth and Falsehood, and with the help of these concepts one thing is given a positive assessment (justice, good, beauty, truth), and others negative (injustice, evil abomination, lies).
                        These rational categories are of paramount importance for the ethnic group. An ethnos cannot be destroyed as long as these categories operate, but the destruction of these categories automatically means the destruction of an ethnic group.
                      5. My doctor
                        My doctor 12 November 2019 22: 40
                        0
                        I admit, in general, I do not understand what to write about. Honestly before, I had not heard about such a science as national psychology, but it turns out that it has already grown into a scientific discipline, with its own semiotics.
                      6. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 12 November 2019 23: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        I honestly haven’t heard of such a science as national psychology,
                        It’s just that by the nature of your occupation and the circle of your interests, apparently, you did not have to face this.
                        And I have long been interested in national issues and discovered in the library fundamental works on national psychology.
                        In national psychology, knowledge of the culture and mental behavior of various peoples and nations is set forth, including the behavior of various national half-breeds.
                        However, about 5-7 years ago, I saw other more modest publications on national psychology in bookstores in the educational literature section.
                      7. astepanov
                        astepanov 14 November 2019 16: 01
                        -3
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        5-7 years ago, I saw other more modest publications on national psychology in bookstores in the educational literature section.

                        Oh, and I saw books about flying saucers, about the treatment of quicklime cancer, about how to make money, doing nothing, how to get rid of the evil eye. Do you collect such books too? You can immediately see the learned lady.
                      8. Revival
                        Revival 15 November 2019 14: 59
                        0
                        All questions to you have disappeared.
                        You clearly defined the circle of your interests)
                      9. Dart
                        Dart 12 November 2019 23: 46
                        0
                        Quote: MyVrach
                        I admit, in general, I do not understand what to write about. I honestly haven’t heard of such a science.

                        Then why engage in polemics?
                      10. My doctor
                        My doctor 13 November 2019 16: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Dart
                        Then why engage in polemics?

                        Should I answer you?
                        Where did you see the controversy? It was a discussion.
                      11. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 13 November 2019 01: 26
                        +1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        I admit, in general, I do not understand what to write about.

                        (Biological + socio-biological goals) are called IRRATIONAL.
                        It:
                        1. Self-preservation is food, clothing, housing, and is protected from diseases, accidents, attacks, etc.
                        2. Extension of the genus. Creating a family, giving birth and raising children, etc.
                        3. Saving the view. Fighting the LGBT community. The fight against medical experiments on people to distort a person as a biological species.
                        4. Frontal leadership. If we imagine society as a social pyramid, then frontal leadership is leadership in the "horizontal plane" - that is. among their peers.
                        5. Hierarchical leadership is leadership along the "vertical" in social position and in power - career growth in society.

                        Just social goals or RATIONAL goals are the development and following of philosophical categories that act as moral and ethical national values ​​for a given people with an explanation of their cause and effect relationships for the benefit and prosperity for a given people, based on their historical life experience.
              4. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 11 November 2019 17: 27
                +2
                Quote: Tatiana
                This was very well understood by Stalin. For this, his Trotskyists also hated.

                I agree completely.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 11 November 2019 17: 15
              +7
              Quote: astepanov
              And who told you that Huseynov is "a foreign philologist? Did he show you his passport? I bring to your attention: he is a Soviet and Russian philologist. And you, venerable, are a Nazi."

              As we say, "They beat not on the passport, but on the face." A person was born in Azerbaijan and is not a native speaker of the Russian language in Russia, and he doubly has the right to offend our language, and what was long gone under the USSR, we live in a different world. Maybe I’m a Nazi, I’m a patriot of Russia and I don’t want my native language to be called "cesspool", if you like it, Mr. Astepanov, the flag is in your hands.
              1. astepanov
                astepanov 11 November 2019 17: 43
                -10
                This is
                Quote: tihonmarine
                A man was born in Azerbaijan and is not a native speaker of the Russian language in Russia

                Is this Guseinov not a native speaker of Russian? A person who has lived most of his life in Russia and devoted himself to linguistics? My dear, judging by your tongue-tied language, you are not a native speaker. You are not carrying it, but dragging it across the floor. Learn to place punctuation marks - at least in this topic. You claim to be a patriot. These "patriots" from the most cultured country - Germany - have done the devil knows what since the beginning of the thirties. From your "patriotism" a mile away carries the assault troops of the Third Reich.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 11 November 2019 18: 13
                  +5
                  Quote: astepanov
                  My dear, judging by your tongue-tied tongue, it’s just that you are not a native speaker. You do not carry it, but drag it on the floor.

                  And what do you want from a "naive Guran boy" who was born in Transbaikalia, not far from the Nerchinsk mine, but unlike you, an "intelligent democrat", I and all my ancestors were for our Motherland and fought both in Japan in 1904 and in Finnish , and in the Second World War and in Japan in 1945, not forgetting the Afghan. So it's not for you to teach us how to live, we all whom you offend are patriots of Russia. And who are you, Mr. Democrat?
                  1. astepanov
                    astepanov 11 November 2019 20: 26
                    -6
                    You,
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    unlike you "intelligent democrat" I and all my ancestors were for our Motherland and fought in the Japanese in 1904, and in the Finnish, and in the Second World War and in the Japanese in 1945, not forgetting the Afghan. So it's not for you to teach us how to live

                    My grandfather fought with the Greens, he had enough of the Finnish one, he came from the Patriotic War. Another grandfather lost two sons, he died under the bombing. And my parents went to that war. And it’s not for you to poke a finger in my ancestors - you are still green. All your little soul out in such a run over. It seems that your ancestors in the camps were offended by a criminal offense - that's why you are also from Transbaikalia, and you allow yourself to write such dirty tricks. The fascist is unfinished.
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 12 November 2019 09: 48
                      +5
                      Quote: astepanov
                      The fascist is unfinished.

                      Well, finally, we got the true face of our Russian intellectual. Good night, dear.
                      1. astepanov
                        astepanov 12 November 2019 17: 07
                        -7
                        What you deserve is what you got. You are also a cheap provocateur.
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            3. Nikolai Korovin
              Nikolai Korovin 11 November 2019 17: 20
              +10
              Mr. Husseinov did not speak about the language of all kinds of dogs, animals, lolits, laces and others like them - you can list them for a long time. He weightily, rudely, visibly expressed himself about the Russian language as such. Let them promote their point of view in their historical homeland. Only it is unlikely that there will be willing to pay for it. But in Russia he has nothing to do. Unless the streets sweep.
              1. Per se.
                Per se. 12 November 2019 06: 37
                +8
                Quote: Nikolai Korovin
                Mr. Husseinov did not speak about the language of all kinds of dogs, animals, lolits, laces and others like them - you can list them for a long time.
                Yes, if the focus was on exactly what caused the problem, but, alas, Husseinov singled out the investigation. The Russian language cannot be a problem, the problem is in those who will rot morality and culture itself, and those in power are already responsible for this. If most of the young people begin to use profanity, speak slang, and, in fact, "bother with the hair dryer", it is the fault of those who broadcast programs such as "House 2", those who tenderly applauds vulgarity and rudeness from the stage who opened the green light to low-standard pop culture.

                The fall and degradation of morality, culture, against the background of the mass smoking of women and youth, moreover, they smoke outright rubbish, becoming drug addicts of low-grade bodybuilding products that they cannot smoke and cannot quit. Who passes all this to Russia, who controls this process?
                Yes, we can say that culture in the world is generally degrading, Russia is only part of the process when people can no longer express their thoughts or emotions without a smiley ... It seems that the problem is one, it is not because of the evolution that the Internet has given, progress technology, this is capitalism itself, with its consumer morality and the cult of money. Corrupt the world and are ready for any crime for the sake of retaining power and superprofits the owners of the rotting system. Capitalism in the world no longer has a counterbalance in the form of the world pole of socialism, Mr. Husseinov is also a product of the world process, while we in capitalism, under the rules and laws of the world masters of this system, do not have to wait for miracles with culture, and it is not in the Russian or other language , which is only a reflection of the development or decline of the culture of the people speaking it.
            4. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk 11 November 2019 18: 45
              +4
              Quote: astepanov

              And the last thing. The media Russian language, in fact, is becoming more and more the language of the New Ham - all sorts of dogs, animals, lolitas, cords and others like them - both from the "secular" and from the political get-together. It is about such a Russian language - clumsy, marketplace, scanty and deceitful - that Huseynov says. I do not like? Then you won't

              Give me a quote where Huseynov is talking about this. This is just your speculation, out of a desire to somehow block this nerus.
            5. Luvad
              Luvad 12 November 2019 16: 05
              -3
              Direct confirmation, many illiterate on the site!
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 12 November 2019 17: 21
                +2
                Quote: LuVad
                Direct confirmation, many illiterate on the site!

                And so it turns out "We all learned a little, something and something." Nevertheless, it is necessary to learn the Native language, otherwise the children will soon forget it.
              2. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 15 November 2019 13: 57
                0
                Quote: LuVad
                Direct confirmation, many illiterate on the site!

                What does this have to do with language? You might think that you are very competent. In some ways, maybe literate, but in everything? And someone is literate in that you are absolutely illiterate.
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 11 November 2019 19: 07
            +4
            Quote: tihonmarine
            And what about the statements of Huseynov, Azerbaijanis think.

            They don’t think anything, they laugh ... at us.
            If Russian, while living in Azerbaijan, spoke in the same way about the Azerbaijani language, he would immediately be spread over the walls and would not be allowed to scrape anyone for three days. And they would do it right.
            We, Russians, nerus spat in the face, and here we are still arguing - did he say that about the Russian language or about modern Russian, which is only spoken by people who think of themselves as intelligentsia, the elite?
            Reduce these goose, sergey Medvedev to the level of slippery, smelly mold, so that a normal person would disdain to stand nearby.
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        3. astepanov
          astepanov 11 November 2019 15: 26
          +2
          Quote: Stas157
          Putin, too, is not satisfied with the current state of the language, and therefore demanded to streamline the norms of the Russian language.

          It has long been done. These norms just need to be studied - and for this there is no need at all to dive into dictionaries and reference books. All that is needed is for the student to read good literature and write essays. But today's schoolchildren are allowed to read comics, but they don’t write essays - so that, mean, the head does not get sick. No one will tell who invented the EG? Maybe Huseynov?
        4. karabass
          karabass 11 November 2019 18: 26
          +2
          Yes, we have already figured out why: in the era of the Internet, the secret quickly becomes apparent - MONEY was not given to the goose on its project, so it’s raging and spitting on the air
        5. Petrograd
          Petrograd 12 November 2019 00: 25
          +3
          Quote: Stas157
          It is significant that Putin is also not satisfied with the current state of the language, and therefore demanded to streamline the norms of the Russian language. The truth did it without scandalous comparisons and did not cause any complaints.

          But "splendidly" he joked to the question of yogurt or yogurt - he answered not with knowledge, but he drinks kefir. Surprising him how you said discontent-
          modern state of language
          ...
          He just woke up, or over the decades it came to pass that, being the president of the country, one should not fill one's pockets and loudly call Russians in Russia "complete idiots", but think about it and get distracted from the income calculator and recall "past promises" about retirement age -for example, and other "fairy tales" ..... ???
      2. APES
        APES 11 November 2019 11: 19
        +11
        Now in the comments friendship of peoples will begin to grow stronger

        Report of the Accounts Chamber on the implementation of the federal budget for January-September 2019.
        The document says that the population in Russia on 1 September 2019 of the year amounted to 146,7 million people. This is 52,5 thousand people less compared to the beginning of the year. At the same time, the migration increase compensated for the natural decline only by 76%, the agency states.

        what it says: there have been less Russian speakers by 200 thousand, and other speakers and thinkers by 150 thousand more - we are on the right track — we will soon hear something different.
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 28
        +2
        Quote: Civil

        Now in the comments friendship of peoples will begin to grow stronger!

        Yes, people have nothing to do with it, and friendship is a thing of the past, but we all live together, and people who try to push people together just need to be sent to their birthplace.
        1. APES
          APES 11 November 2019 14: 56
          +6
          but we all live together


          so they thought in the USSR - as a result, the mass genocide of Russians in the "fraternal" republics -
          now the mass arrival of the former "fraternal" - the question: how will all this end?
          and so, for a snack, think about the axiom: "an organized minority always wins an unorganized majority" - to the question of who will win

          who are trying to push people


          they don’t try, but systematically work on it - and they work at their place of residence :)
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2019 15: 06
            +2
            Quote: APES
            now the mass arrival of the former "fraternal" - the question: how will all this end?

            For some reason, abroad of Russia, about 20 millions of former USSR citizens still live.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 November 2019 15: 09
            +1
            Quote: APES
            they are not trying, but they are systematically working on it - and they are working at their place of residence:

            So I wrote "Send them home" (from Russia)
    2. vic02
      vic02 11 November 2019 08: 10
      +33
      I will add. The Russian government at all levels itself contributes to the transformation of the Russian language into a trash heap and impoverishment of the language. From the central TV channels, the pronunciation of the numerals "twenty-nineteen" instead of "two thousand nineteen" is becoming the norm, "original" instead of "genuine, real" has become the norm, the "La Perouse Strait" instead of the "La Perouse Strait", etc. has become the norm. On programs for young people, "battles, challenges, wow, bro", etc. have become the norm.
      1. Leshy1975
        Leshy1975 11 November 2019 12: 07
        +12
        Quote: vic02
        I will add. The Russian government at all levels itself contributes to the transformation of the Russian language into a trash heap and impoverishment of the language. From the central TV channels, the pronunciation of the numerals "twenty-nineteen" instead of "two thousand nineteen" is becoming the norm, "original" instead of "genuine, real" has become the norm, the "La Perouse Strait" instead of the "La Perouse Strait", etc. has become the norm. On programs for young people, "battles, challenges, wow, bro", etc. have become the norm.

        Cool. And to me for a similar opinion, the other day a whole basket of minuses was poured. laughing When I also pointed out that language cannot exist separately from mass culture, which is simply a problem. And that the authorities themselves turn a blind eye to all this, this is at least, otherwise why won't they stop the rampant Sabbath on TV. (however, I believe that such a mass culture is beneficial to the authorities, because it is precisely this that forms the desired consumer, in the broadest sense). And also the power itself is an example of the destruction of the Russian language, when even at the highest level, instead of the official one, it allows the use of a feni. What kind of culture, what kind of high Russian language is there, if Buzovshchina + Malakhovshchina + Solovyovshchina is "our" everything in mass culture.
        You, too, are from me +, a tremendous one, it is a pity that you cannot put two pluses. hi

        PS Pouring the same cons to me, for this post is welcome. It will look cool, for a similar opinion one has a lot +, and another has a lot -. "Friends" trolls, to work. laughing
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 11 November 2019 18: 47
          -3
          Quote: Leshy1975
          And that the authorities themselves turn a blind eye to all this

          You do not understand this. Right now, "patriots" with barrels of kvass will swoop in and easily prove to you that the language of the secular crowd and the "creative elite" is our property, and if there are punctures somewhere, then Guseinov is to blame for them, who should be fatherly shot , bastard, and send the body "to the historical homeland" - either to Israel, or to Azerbaijan.
        2. Petrograd
          Petrograd 12 November 2019 00: 32
          +2
          Quote: Leshy1975
          "Friends" trolls, to work.

          Well, not all there trolls laughing "+"
        3. Petrograd
          Petrograd 12 November 2019 01: 01
          +2
          For the post in which he cited A.S. Pushkin:
          About how many wonderful discoveries
          Prepare the spirit of enlightenment
          And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
          And genius, the paradoxes friend
          And the case, god is the inventor.

          I was "proudly" named and described-An interesting appeal to you, to an unfamiliar interlocutor. (((Generally it’s unpleasant to read you, and I won’t answer anything (Were you brought up in the gateways? drinks Caesar-Caesarean, locksmith-locksmith, well, further on all in alphabetical order.
      2. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 11 November 2019 12: 19
        +9
        Quote: vic02
        On programs for young people, "battles, challenges, wow, bro", etc. have become the norm.

        Oh, that's WOW! What kind of "monkeying"? And that's not all! More than once I watched on TV shows how the exclamation of "wow" was accompanied by the inscription "YOY!" Instead of "WOW!" fool
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 11 November 2019 18: 51
          -1
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          Oh, that's WOW! What kind of "monkeying"?

          Huseynov is to blame. Atu him!
          1. Dart
            Dart 12 November 2019 23: 56
            +1
            But to pour in to bring to life does not interfere.
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 13 November 2019 21: 07
            +2
            Quote: astepanov
            Huseynov is to blame. Atu him!

            Do not pretend you know who. Huseynov insulted the language, i.e. Russian as native speakers of this language.
            You might think that the Azerbaijani language is not clogged with Russianisms, Anglicisms, etc. Turkishisms.
    3. Ka-52
      Ka-52 11 November 2019 09: 52
      +1
      So what? In Moscow in some areas, soon you will not hear the Russian language at all.

      and here is another example of similar biased speculations obtained by finger scanning. When the applicant, with an expression of deep thought, raises his finger up and says: "Truly I say to you, on May 4, 1925, the Earth will hit the celestial axis!" In what districts? how soon?
      "Especially in the subway"

      I don’t hear any English speaking in the subway at all.
      The top constantly demonstrates its loyalty to partners.

      and what does it have to do with it? What sideways do memes of foreign policy statements address the issue of the purity of the Russian language? Or are these methods gleaned from kitchen battles?
      1. BIABIA
        BIABIA 11 November 2019 11: 01
        +7
        Quote: Ka-52

        I don’t hear any English speaking in the subway at all.


        English - no. Tajik - yes. Even in my small town near Moscow there were a lot of visitors. On the playground, in front of the house, they do not speak Russian .....
        Alas.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 12 November 2019 07: 32
          -3
          English - no. Tajik - yes. Even in my small town near Moscow there were a lot of visitors. On the playground, in front of the house, they do not speak Russian .....
          Alas.

          in "small towns near Moscow began to build a metro? you are lying laughing
          but seriously, the visiting Tajiks (or other nationalities of near and not very foreign countries) ALWAYS were part of the life of big cities. Since the time of the Union. Now labor migration has simply increased significantly. But what is whining about this ???? Residents of big cities themselves encourage this expansion. Will you make a Muscovite go to a low-paid job as a janitor, loader, concrete worker or plasterer? No, everyone has ambition and conceit above the nose. Tomorrow all Jamshuts, Farids and Mikols will disappear - Moscow will drown in shit. Buildings will stand up. But the whining car and a small cart .... negative
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 11 November 2019 13: 54
        +5
        I don’t hear any English speaking in the subway at all.
        When you pass nine stations, and at each "next station"
        Not memes, someone likes to constantly speak transparent, implementable. And I've said it a thousand times. that according to the constitution the position is called "Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation" but not everyone strives to call him prime minister.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 31
          +1
          Quote: Gardamir
          The Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation "but no one wants to call him the Prime Minister.

          And before 1953 of the year it was.
        2. Ka-52
          Ka-52 12 November 2019 07: 46
          +1
          When you pass nine stations, and at each "next station"

          you are talking nonsense. Sounding in several languages ​​is a normal civilized service. It would be better if they directed their indignation at those who drag Americanism into our everyday lives. All these event managers, coaches, cleaning specialists, hyipas, fast food instead of snack bars, call centers instead of reference ones, etc. - This is a problem for the language, not a server-side announcement for city guests.
    4. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 11 November 2019 10: 19
      +3
      For the ruling now in Russia, elites, such as Huseynov and their ideas, are much closer than tens of millions of ordinary Russians.
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 12 November 2019 07: 48
        -4
        For the ruling now in Russia, elites, such as Huseynov and their ideas, are much closer than tens of millions of ordinary Russians.
        Do you really count yourself among the tens of millions of Russians? Why would a commentator with the nickname "Greg Miller" worry about this?
    5. Victor N
      Victor N 11 November 2019 11: 39
      -1
      The judgment of an insignificant evil, stupid little man is not worth a discussion.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 11 November 2019 15: 14
        +2
        Quote: Victor N
        The judgment of an insignificant evil, stupid little man is not worth a discussion.

        But he is being protected, and quite at a high level. Such people do not form their own opinions, they only "herald" someone else's opinion. This is why they are dangerous.
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 November 2019 12: 33
      +9
      Quote: Gardamir
      So what? In Moscow in some areas, soon you will not hear the Russian language at all.

      Well, just look at what language young people speak in chats. Instead of "thank you" - ATP, instead of "please" - pozh and so on ... while illiteracy is just wild.
      At the same time, look, for example, at our media stars. There, instead of Russian words, English, slang, obscenities, etc. ... at the same time there is a limitless decline in morals, culture and tact. Pushkin and Lermontov in a coffin are spinning like propellers.
      Quote: Gardamir
      The top constantly demonstrates its loyalty to partners.

      I can see that the top wants to eat the fish and not slap it. And as my warrant used to say, don’t try to sit on two chairs. Either the chairs will be scattered or the ass will burst.
      There is no ideology in the country, no goal, no will of power.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 11 November 2019 15: 29
        +3
        Smeshariki. "Nakazuha"
        Slang rules the world ....
    7. Alien From
      Alien From 11 November 2019 13: 11
      0
      Moreover, the top completely forgot about the bottoms, well, nothing, the fish rots from the head ...... the roots will be stronger!
    8. Pushkar
      Pushkar 11 November 2019 19: 54
      0
      Quote: Gardamir
      In Moscow in some areas, soon you will not hear the Russian language at all.

      According to the 2010 census of Russians in Moscow, 86,33% (91,65% of the number who named their nationality). And only RBC (liberal business consulting growth) calls the figure 31%. Are you with the liberals?
    9. Oleg Monarchist
      Oleg Monarchist 12 November 2019 17: 35
      0
      Name at least one district in Moscow where they speak exclusively foreign languages laughing
  2. samarin1969
    samarin1969 11 November 2019 06: 19
    +24
    The fact that the Russian language already has to be defended on the territory of the Russian Federation is becoming familiar. Some subjects are very zealous in defending "national identity".

    “Once again I want to draw your attention to the fact that, according to the Constitution, unfortunately, the municipal level of power is separated from the state. ... And there, as a rule, there is not enough money for either one or the other, or third. Or maybe there is enough, but they spend on other purposes. "

    Actually, I work in a "municipal" school. In what its "municipality" is difficult to understand and explain to children. Program, control, tasks, textbooks, standards - everything is "state". Without government funding, all schools in the districts would most likely have been downgraded to "parish" levels. This is probably more convenient to explain the salary of teachers. They have been falling for the last three years.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 11 November 2019 06: 26
      +16
      By the way, the very name municipal coming from the government is already anti-Russian.
      1. Chaldon48
        Chaldon48 11 November 2019 08: 21
        +3
        Well, now we are all as one, rolling up his hands, we rush. Where?
        1. mikh-korsakov
          mikh-korsakov 11 November 2019 10: 24
          +6
          The liberals defend Huseynov, arguing that he became so unbearably painful for the purity of the Russian language that he expressed himself too emotionally. Mr. Huseynov, so what was the matter, instead of traveling abroad and slandering Russia, go to a provincial town as a Russian language teacher for the salary due to the Russian language teacher and teach the children how to speak and write correctly, and people will reach for you. By the way, there were some examples when the intelligentsia went to the village as teachers. And so - I do not believe you! You are not an intellectual, but a liberal.
          1. tesser
            tesser 11 November 2019 11: 55
            -2
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Liberals defend Huseynov, claiming that he became so unbearably painful for the purity of the Russian language

            No. These are liberals on a salary. That is, not labor.

            1. If there is anything indicative in this story, it is how immediately and equally the two offices, considered to be scattered liberal people — Zuckerberg and the HSE, were equally curtailed. Facebook rubbed the post under discussion, the HSE gathered a party activist, listened, decided to condemn and dissociate itself.

            2. The position of the liberals is that Huseynov in his Facebook can write everything that he sees fit. If his students are bothered by this, they can vote and form students' opinions on the desirability or undesirability of teaching Mr. Huseynov. Officials, including the dean’s office, the media, the Ministry of Education and Facebook support, cannot be interested in this, private individuals - exclusively within the borders of the Frach.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 11 November 2019 14: 38
              +1
              Quote: tesser
              The position of the liberals is that Huseynov on his Facebook can write everything that he sees fit.

              This whole liberal camarilla is the "cesspool" of Russia, as our sailors say "ballast", but at sea it is all simple and real "No ballast is needed, throw it overboard" (discharge is pumping overboard) but here it is differently
              Hasan's post - cesspool suddenly spoke.
            2. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 11 November 2019 17: 27
              0
              tesser. You, in my opinion, are breaking through the open door. None of the commentators, at least its reasonable part, does not deny the right of Huseynov to write on Facebook everything that comes to his mind. But he did it in an outrageously boorish manner. Therefore, the right of all honest people with their cues to nail this villain to the shameful column for scornfully lordly tone in relation to people. Freedom of speech is retroactive. The fact that people do it ineptly, they write with errors, so gentlemen are your fault (USE-s).
              1. tesser
                tesser 11 November 2019 22: 03
                -5
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                with their cues, to nail this villain to the shameful column for scornfully lordly tone in relation to people

                Yes? While "nailed with replicas" - no questions asked. But I see an abundance of proposals for various measures, from administrative to criminal.

                Although, of course, I'm not sure which of the commentators you call the "sane part". Personally, you do not seem to have such proposals.
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  3. demo
    demo 11 November 2019 06: 33
    +13
    I am not a philologist.
    I am not even familiar with people involved in this activity.
    It is difficult for me to comprehend the degree of their "necessity".
    Probably they are needed.
    But nothing more than people of other specialties and other professions.

    To me, as a techie, all the verbal exercises of the humanities were never close or understandable.
    But God did not offend the mind and decided (broke himself through the knee) to read at least some of the works of this fruit.

    I quote:
    INTRODUCTION.
    WHY ARE YOU ANTIQUITY?

    The mental leap in time and space that you have to make in order to only touch the main monuments of ancient literature: why is it?

    As one of the patriarchs of Russian classical philology, Faddeus Frantsevich Zelinsky, from a cold northern country lying in the ice between Sakhalin and Magadan A.P. Chekhov or A.I. Solzhenitsyn and St. Petersburg F.M.Dostoevsky or Alexander Blok would say that you have to for some reason fly to the Mediterranean. You have to start reading about the Trojan War, sung almost three thousand years ago in a language that for most of you, unfortunately, will remain a stranger, even if you spend several years studying it. So why carry over?

    After this passage, which is an introduction, you can close the book and put it on the highest shelf in the library.
    Or use it as a replacement for the fallen off leg of an old cabinet.
    Those wishing to read - go ahead!
    https://ridero.ru/books/istoriya_vsego_lekcii_o_mife/freeText

    A person living in the world of antiquity, with their blood-sucking gods, with perverts, with sadists, with LGBT people there - clearly does not quite adequately perceive modern time. And the place in which he lives.
    1. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 11 November 2019 06: 50
      +2
      Quote: demo
      So why carry over?

      Does he give an answer to his question?
      maybe the author of these lines believes that it should be tolerated and the prelude should simply be intriguing.
      1. demo
        demo 11 November 2019 07: 17
        +5
        After the first thousand characters in his text, I fell into a stupor.
        And this very question tormented me!
        Do not want, do not carry !!!!!
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 11 November 2019 08: 09
      +5
      Quote: demo
      After this passage, which is an introduction, you can close the book and put it on the highest shelf in the library.
      Or use it as a replacement for the fallen off leg of an old cabinet.
      Those wishing to read - go ahead!
      https://ridero.ru/books/istoriya_vsego_lekcii_o_mife/freeText

      A person living in the world of antiquity, with their blood-sucking gods, with perverts, with sadists, with LGBT people there - clearly does not quite adequately perceive modern time. And the place in which he lives.

      It’s not even that: pay attention to as THIS is written: a heavy, awkward, bulky syllable and complete inability to express one's thoughts (which also does not exist). And this is in the presence of a huge set of tools for this provided by the Russian language!

      With such squalor, a person simply does not have the right to speak about language!
      1. demo
        demo 11 November 2019 08: 15
        +3
        Above, that's exactly what I said. In other words. hi
    3. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 11 November 2019 08: 54
      +3
      It turns out we live somewhere between Sakhalin and Magadan. The professor has commendable knowledge in geography, but it is taken to talk about ancient Greece, not knowing where it is probably located.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 11 November 2019 09: 28
        +7
        Moreover, Sakhalin can have only Chekhov, Magadan - Solzhenitsyn, and Petersburg - only Dostoevsky. It seems that the gentleman has a set of stamps in his head instead of thoughts.
    4. Victor N
      Victor N 11 November 2019 11: 53
      +2
      It is just for an adequate perception of modernity that you need to read antique literature: Xenophon, Plutarch, Tacitus .....
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 11 November 2019 06: 40
    +14
    The comment will not be much incoherent .... A.P. Chekhov has a story, it begins with the fact that the police chief goes home and thinks what things need to be done at home. The first task is to flog his son. Because he was met by a gymnasium teacher and told him, that his son is a quitter and completely neglects the study of Russian literature and literature ... A friend who teaches history at a technical school is outraged by the history program approved by the Ministry of Education: Imagine, in two hours I have to give a lecture on the topic: From Russia to Russia in the 16th century ... At the same time, about everything, the emergence of the development of feudal relations, the creation of the ancient Russian state, the reasons for feudal fragmentation, foreign policy, the adoption of Christianity, and so on ... And all the other topics like that, "galloping through Europe", in fact, no knowledge whatsoever give ..
    1. Galleon
      Galleon 11 November 2019 09: 32
      +4
      The eldest studied in St. Petersburg as a TV director, the middle of the 1000s: the entire history of Russia is 10 years old, they were given XNUMX lessons. "So that the child is not exhausted ..."
    2. Den717
      Den717 11 November 2019 09: 51
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      Familiar, teaches history at a college

      Unfortunately, for the most part, history is taught so uninteresting that the listeners do not gravitate towards the subject, and it is perceived as a meaningless set of unrelated dates and events. This year I let my last child out of school, and specifically from personal experience I will say that we passed only Russian and literature at a sufficiently high level without the help of additional forces only in the school curriculum. According to history, last year, at least three classes, two hours a week, were engaged with homework, especially hard from September to January, and, lo and behold, the child developed an interest in the subject !!! Due to immersion and an interesting teacher .... As for the article, I will say that we all saw on TV exactly the meeting of the expert council, which should discuss the problems of language, find solutions to pressing and revealed problems. Everything is quite logical. But such huseynovs need to be driven out of their teaching community. But first, nevertheless, you need to choose for yourself the ideology of development. And not to follow the norms of liberal democracy in matters of educating a citizen, but to build a hard line. Don't like Huseynov's language? In the kitchen, he can say whatever he wants, but in a public space for such an insult to the people, he should be "repressed" according to the law, at least by dismissal from teaching.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 11 November 2019 19: 12
        +1
        I agree, with my friend and with you, with the friend that in 2 hours, and even for recording, one writes slowly, the other does not write, the third and 10th do not write at all, they play on the phone, what’s interesting with you teach, he can do it .. but time .. and such a volume .. According to the article by Huseynov, the product of the system ... of our liberal system .. He did not fly from Mars ..
  5. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 November 2019 06: 46
    +3
    Once again, let’s not discuss the personality of this olog. Better tell me why the government does not only prohibit the activity of Russophobes, but also indulges them.
    1. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 11 November 2019 06: 56
      +7
      No, let's be, otherwise-
      "One thing should be understood: if you do not react to such attacks, then one day the mentioned Hasanov and Medvedev will sit on this council."
      If there is no such wide public resonance, then it will continue on an increasing,
      "when one calls our language" cloach ", and the second, from the same educational institution (sorry, the language does not dare to call it a university), his friend and colleague, calls it" fascist ", starting into lengthy arguments about Russian aggression against Ukraine, you start think about what is taught in this "High School" "
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 11 November 2019 06: 57
      +15
      Well, why not? It is necessary. It would only be nice if the prosecutor were interested in this gentleman. Has the article already been abolished the article for inciting ethnic hatred? Or is it selectively acting? Only in relation to Russians?
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 11 November 2019 13: 37
        +6
        if the prosecutor were interested in this gentleman.
        They recently discussed and even condemned a certain Gorbachev, believe me, the prosecutor’s office was not interested in them. And they will not be interested in this, because the reason is not in it, but in those who allow Russia to be soiled with mud.
    3. demo
      demo 11 November 2019 07: 24
      +7
      The question is far from simple and not idle.
      If you carefully analyze what is happening in the state (and who can afford these days to analyze the behavior of the authorities so freely?), Then a single picture can emerge.
      But she will be far from joyful.
      We carefully read the Government Target Programs, Presidential Decrees, reports on their implementation and everything falls into place.
      What is beneficial to the liberal clan is being implemented, and what is not is being bikotized.
      And the funds allocated, but not spent, as a result of such a policy begin to work in other, unnecessary, and sometimes harmful areas.
      There is simply no time and desire to do analysis.
      And to whom is he needed analysis?

      "And Vaska listens, but eats."
    4. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 11 November 2019 10: 48
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      Once again, let’s not discuss the personality of this olog. Better tell me why the government does not only prohibit the activity of Russophobes, but also indulges them.
      Why not discuss the personality of this "Oolog", if the HSE staff is completely staffed with such "personalities", and this "school" itself is financed from the budget, to which, in turn, native speakers of this language deduct their taxes. I think so, if some "philologist" Sidorov in a Baku higher educational institution called the Azerbaijani language "cloach", then within a day, maximum three, he would be given the necessary speed and direction towards the ethnic homeland and the "philologist" Sidorov stuttering where Somewhere in the Ryazan courtyard, devoid of professorial content, the rest of his life would have tore Sidorov's goat. If his “colleague” Medvedev under the roof of the same “educational institution” in an effort to give “euphony” to Huseynov’s “cesspool” betrays that the Russian language is also “fascist,” then the question arises whether Russian society needs this HSE brand? Should these professors go into the national economy? Maybe for the money that is spent on the maintenance of this office, to build several centers for children's creativity?
    5. EvilLion
      EvilLion 11 November 2019 10: 59
      -4
      Because such laws were adopted in the 90s, and until a critical mass of such characters accumulates, no one will change anything. I advise you to study everything that the government did in the 2000s, maybe then you will be more careful with expressions like, "the government condones."
    6. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 11 November 2019 11: 39
      +2
      Gardamir! Why doesn't it prohibit the activity? I thought about it myself. I remembered Gaidar's book Timur and his team. There, along with the hooligan Mishka Kvakin, there appears a certain old man who persuades Mishka to act "with affection, affection" in his fight against Timur.
  6. evgen1221
    evgen1221 11 November 2019 07: 01
    +5
    After the civil war, too, a wild personnel shortage was in the country — they decided the same when they wanted to. Today, apparently, they do not want to, because there is a golden donkey with a parachute and a carrot to dump the live abroad. So none of the officials exalt the quality of managers.
  7. Fedorov
    Fedorov 11 November 2019 07: 02
    +9
    My daughter is a British citizen (it happened), she studies in the USA, so a specialist flies to me in Kiev twice a year.
    - Dad, I feel bad there without a Russian, talk to me (not on Skype), and somehow pulls her to her homeland in Siberia, where she was born. He has already given away a suitcase of books and is reading. Although he knows Arabic, French, English, Ukrainian by definition, but Russian is lame.
    So not everything is lost. hi Parents - Teach your child!
    My last gift is "War and Peace" in one volume. Rarity ... Although I still do not quite "catch up with what Tolstoy wanted to express there.
    1. demo
      demo 11 November 2019 07: 26
      +5
      It's simple.
      One part is War, and the other is Peace.
      You can not read! hi
      1. Fedorov
        Fedorov 11 November 2019 07: 44
        +3
        And watch? Bondarchuk was not in vain in Cannes received a branch. I think it’s worth reading for the development of the brain apparatus.
        1. demo
          demo 11 November 2019 08: 27
          +5
          I was joking. And you took my words seriously. sad
          A little about how I went through the process of exploring the Book.
          Years before 13-14, reading always in me caused a rejection.
          Football, games with friends, rushing around the streets.
          The school, of course, gave the assignment.
          But having a tenacious memory, having read once 5-6 pages of text, he could repeat it almost without errors.
          Those. everything is fine, the book is not held in high esteem.
          And at home there was a rather impressive library of both foreign and domestic literature.
          And at one moment I hear a conversation between dad and mom.
          And mother, a champion of literature, bitterly tells dad - the son does not read anything.
          What to do?
          I decided that at least fifteen minutes I should sit in full view with a book to please my parents.
          For more, I think I’m not enough.
          No sooner said than done.
          And how I began to "sit"!
          That then my parents forcefully put me to bed at 3-4 in the morning.
          Could not break away.
          Although he did not give up his old habits.
          Just redistributed the time and stung a dream.

          And still I love the book, I love the smell of paint, the feeling of partial involvement in the wisdom of the author when you hold his work.
          And you can argue with him and talk.
          And the current generation reads "Anna Karenina" in an abbreviated form (three or four pages).
          And then! On the computer screen.
          1. zh1
            zh1 11 November 2019 08: 53
            0
            What is "bubbling"? Please clarify.
            1. demo
              demo 11 November 2019 09: 30
              +4
              The local dialect that arose at the junction of several linguistic cultures.
              Something between idleness and Humpty Dumpty.
              Wonderful Russian language.
      2. Antares
        Antares 11 November 2019 08: 55
        +1
        Quote: demo
        One part is War, and the other is Peace.

        Alexei Tolstoy is easy and pleasant to read, but Leo Tolstoy is much harder
        and on the topic - when the Tradition begins to fight with Progress - the latter always wins!
        So Russian will continue to change.
        Because it is an inevitable process.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 11 November 2019 19: 17
      0
      what did Tolstoy want to express
      ... On the relation of society to war, therefore the book is called War and Peace, the word world in this spelling denotes society, and peace means earth, in the sense of a planet ..
  8. andrewkor
    andrewkor 11 November 2019 07: 12
    +9
    I will add a bit to the discussion of the problem.
    In Tashkent, local residents, in conversations with each other, when they want to more fully convey their thoughts to the interlocutor, insert words in Russian (not obscene). But we have to admit that at the household level, the Russian language in Uzbekistan goes to NO.
    1. onega67
      onega67 11 November 2019 08: 48
      +1
      I also live in Tashkent. Everything is written correctly. I myself am not an Uzbek, but I think it is right that Russian is coming to naught. Although I do not really like it, but what can you do. But in Uzbekistan, the native language is Uzbek. It would be strange if Russia spoke any other language, but not Russian.
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 11 November 2019 10: 56
        +1
        Onega! Less than 10% of Swedes live in Finland, but Swedish is there along with the Finnish state language. In India, English is one of the official languages. I was there and talked in English - from my interlocutors I could speak English with everyone. But this does not mean that they know how to speak English in the villages.
        1. onega67
          onega67 11 November 2019 11: 04
          +1
          The situation is the same here. In cities, in principle, you can talk to everyone in Russian, in villages it is far from the case. But this is their problem. I myself witnessed how a crowd of guest workers flew to Pulkovo, and not many were able to answer the question: "What is the purpose of the visit?" They did not understand the question, and of course, they could not answer in Russian.
      2. andrewkor
        andrewkor 11 November 2019 16: 18
        -1
        Let me correct you a little: I consider it natural that the Russian language is waning in Uzbekistan. In my opinion, this will be a more correct assessment of the process.
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 11 November 2019 07: 24
    +4
    You ask, where is the money?

    Where is the money ... but where they creep a lot, but not where the case needs and should be!
    The question is different, but the TOP POWER WHERE, WHAT? What does she do, that “discoveries, revelations” constantly fall on her, that outside the Kremlin walls and even more so, the garden and other rings, there is also life, it is by no means easy!
    And to drive the professor in the neck, because you have to answer for the "market", i.e. think about what you're talking about.
  10. Nitarius
    Nitarius 11 November 2019 07: 48
    +7
    drive with a stick and strip all professorships for such words! it is necessary to be so moral insane that this says about the people from whose hands you feed! here is the western stuff!
  11. Olgovich
    Olgovich 11 November 2019 07: 59
    +2
    Here for me, for example, don't think so: even if Africa does not know a single Russian word, we will somehow survive it. This, Vladimir Vladimirovich, is a fact from the category of minor troubles, no more. But the literacy of Russian citizens is such an important task that it’s hard to even think of something that could compare with it.

    And although it’s possible to challenge me in some part, it’s very important for someone that there should be two or three teachers of Russian literature in the mumba-yumba tribe, but still, I think, the rest 99% of Russians will support me: these are not even nearly equal tasks.

    True, there is an exception: Russian people in Ukraine. Here I agree: it is important, it is extremely important to ensure that they can freely speak their native language. True, I noticed you have one caveat, for which I sincerely thank you:
    As for those facilities that are located abroad - unfortunately, today abroad, in Moldova - we will talk with the authorities.

    No, these are two equally equal tasks: the Russian language is the wealth of not only the Russian people, but the whole world. But only Russia can (and wants) to support him. This is her contribution to world culture.

    The Russian language abroad is weight, Russia's influence, respect for it, is the guarantee of the existence of the Russian world, which is much wider than the borders of Russia.

    But his state in b. so called "republics" today is catastrophic: Russian schools are closed, in the nat. Russian has not been taught in schools for a long time ... Young people no longer know it, and the Russian language that remains in communication is increasingly turning into an unimaginable, extremely poor vocabulary, a mixture of different languages ​​...
    1. cost
      cost 12 November 2019 23: 10
      +5
      Olgovich (Andrey):The Russian language abroad is weight, Russia's influence, respect for it, is the guarantee of the existence of the Russian world, which is much wider than the borders of Russia.

      Even it became envious of such a phrase, I would not be able to formulate
  12. Boris55
    Boris55 11 November 2019 08: 16
    -2
    Quote: Victor Kuzovkov
    The State Duma, which some detractors sometimes called your "printer"

    Including you in the ranks of these not well-wishers? More than frankly.
  13. kalibr
    kalibr 11 November 2019 08: 25
    -2
    Quote: parusnik
    He’s familiar, he teaches history at the technical school and is indignant at the program on history approved by the Ministry of Education: Imagine, in two hours I have to write, a lecture on the topic: From Russia to Russia of the 16 century ... At the same time, about everything, the origin of the development of feudal relations, the creation of Old Russian state, the causes of feudal fragmentation, foreign policy, the adoption of Christianity and so on ..

    If this is a culinary college, then more is not necessary!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 11 November 2019 10: 51
      0
      Quote: kalibr
      If this is a culinary college, then more is not necessary!

      You are not right.

      Not a single "Mowgli" found in the forests became Pushkin, because genius forms the habitat. For this reason, I am against copyright. Mikhalkov, born among the wild monkeys of Brazil, never would have become Mikhalkov ...

      Only by raising the general level of culture (knowledge) of the population, the "elite" will have an incentive to self-improvement and vice versa, lowering this level will lead to its degradation and, as a result, to its change, usually by force.
  14. Sergst
    Sergst 11 November 2019 08: 33
    +4
    And the editors of VO do not want to finally do the necessary thing - proofreading articles before they are published on the site? After all, the article above is almost the only one that contains no errors.
  15. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 11 November 2019 08: 34
    +4
    It appeared in the text that the HSE defender from the HSE complained that the protest against Huseynov’s statements was, according to the defender, spontaneous. So that’s good, gentlemen. According to the constitution and with your approval, we have freedom of expression. Huseynov for his opinion, expressed in a vile insulting form, no one brought anywhere, did not throw off a warm professorship. So be gentlemen ready for that. that in the age of the Internet, people who disagree with your opinion will express it, as for the form of statements and spelling mistakes, sorry, gentlemen, didn’t you learn how to write correctly, but instead we introduced the Western style of teaching with the Unified State Examination and so on. And the fact that you received the answer, so learn to tolerate the liberals, if you want to stay in Russia. Here you are not there, and that’s good. As for the abundance of claims for additional financing, I have a different attitude to this. If something useful, but urgent, is one thing, and if it concerns, say, Pushkin’s birthday, then this is another matter, he is known to everyone - do not be lazy to submit applications in advance - and you will succeed.
  16. oracul
    oracul 11 November 2019 08: 53
    +5
    It is strange that they started talking about this now, but this problem did not arise today, since at one time a Russian language course was introduced in universities, precisely because of the growing illiteracy of applicants. And what we see - it did not get better, since the Huseynovs appeared in universities, burdened with professorships, teaching, to put it mildly, in the "cloaca language" they do not respect and receiving money, incl. from the budget. Thus, the reason for this kind of problems, as always in recent years, rested on the cadres "who decide everything." Alas, for some of them, the reference point in life was not professionalism, but money, a lot of money. By the way, in Stalin's times, teachers were respected people and their salaries were higher than in many sectors of the national economy. And this is correct - as you teach children, you will receive it.
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  18. sniperino
    sniperino 11 November 2019 10: 04
    +1
    Interestingly, Huseynov directly expressed a claim to his colleagues from the HSE, who contributed more Englishism to the Russian language, probably than all the others.
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  20. Edmond dantes
    Edmond dantes 11 November 2019 10: 21
    +4
    For me, this is the brainchild of Gaidar (VSHE), it's time to break up the time. There is a noble nursery of Russophobia.
  21. Kito
    Kito 11 November 2019 10: 54
    +1
    According to part 1 of article 282 "The incitement of hatred or enmity, as well as the humiliation of human dignity" of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation as amended by Federal Law of 08.12.2003 N 162-ФЗ [2],

    Actions aimed at inciting hatred or enmity, as well as humiliating the dignity of a person or a group of people on the grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, religion, as well as belonging to any social group, committed publicly or with the use of the media shall be punishable by a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles, or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of one year to two years, or by deprivation of the right to hold certain bit or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or by compulsory works for a term of up to one hundred eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or imprisonment for up to two years.

    Thus, one way of committing this crime is to disseminate information in the media, which increases the likelihood of familiarization with the statements that incite ethnic hatred, a large audience.

    A crime is recognized to be completed from the moment of making public statements or appearing in the media regardless of whether or not someone has developed a sense of hostility towards a particular nationality. The subject of a crime can be any person who has reached the age of 16.

    Maybe law enforcement should use it?
  22. kalibr
    kalibr 11 November 2019 10: 55
    0
    Quote: Boris55
    You are not right.
    Not a single "Mowgli" found in the forests became Pushkin, and why? Because genius shapes the environment. For this reason I am against copyright. Mikhalkov, born among the wild monkeys of Brazil, never would have become Mikhalkov ... Only by raising the general level of culture (knowledge) of the population, the "elite" will have an incentive to improve themselves and vice versa, lowering this level will lead to its degradation and, as a consequence, to its change, usually by force.

    What does what you wrote have to do with a college that provides a profession? The child becomes a cultural person until the 5 years, learns about life more than for all the time remaining until the grave. Nobody argues with what you write. All right. But it is not necessary to study in a culinary college how procurement differs from ordinary and consider the nuances of pointillism.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 11 November 2019 16: 28
      +4
      It's nice to see a refined intelligent opinion). You know, a senior engineer, a graduate of a technical school worked with me at a thermal power plant. He drank a little (though a little), but regularly. And he didn’t want to burden the family with his modest hobby. So he did control for external students of universities working for us. Controls always got the highest score.
      The trick was that the technical school was railway. I don’t know the current situation, but in the days of the USSR, the list of subjects studied there included logic, psychology, chemistry ... A lot of "unnecessary" things. For the guys who will walk, knock on the axes with a hammer.
      It would be possible to talk for a long time about neural pathways and methods of accelerated learning, which should be applied to absolutely all people if we want to get a strong and efficient people, but why? Intellectuals hate intellectuals ...
  23. bandabas
    bandabas 11 November 2019 11: 20
    +1
    What? Again? The policy of our kingdom-state is reduced to one genocide of the Slavs (Russian, Belarusian, and continuing to dig out the next sea). Sadly, but a fact.
  24. Terenin
    Terenin 11 November 2019 11: 38
    +4
    . Secondly, there are doubts about the professional competence of citizen Huseynov.

    How do you not form such gooseyns, anyway, without Russian control, the centuries-old national latifundia, in their brains, takes up crying
  25. Timon2155
    Timon2155 11 November 2019 11: 53
    0
    One thing is clear to me: today liberal = enemy of the people. They simply harm and interfere with the normal life and development of the people. It is necessary to get rid of such liberals unambiguously, to send them farther away to Chukotka, let them be clever there and pour water on an enemy mill. Let's turn to the story - they were already sent there ~ a century ago, it needs to be repeated. That is why the liberota squeals at the mention of alleged repression. And in every possible way submits it as a shame of the USSR. No, gentlemen, that was the right decision then. We will come to this again soon.
  26. SokolfromRussia
    SokolfromRussia 11 November 2019 12: 07
    +2
    Screenshots of his statements about the Donbass.

    https://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/5413015.html
  27. AlNickNick
    AlNickNick 11 November 2019 13: 46
    +7
    Leo Gumilyov, historian.
    The present intelligentsia is such a spiritual sect. What is characteristic: they don’t know anything, they don’t know anything, but they judge everything and completely disagree with dissent ...

    Unknown
    Most Russian liberals are market liberals. The word market should be used here in the sense of "bazaar".

    Fedor Tyutchev, poet
    Vain work! No, you can’t understand them:
    The more liberal, the vulgar;
    Civilization is a fetish for them,
    But their idea is not available to them.
    As before her, do not bend, gentlemen,
    You do not get recognition from Europe:
    In her eyes you will always be
    They are not servants of enlightenment, but servants.
    ... One could give an analysis of the modern phenomenon, which is becoming increasingly pathological in nature. This is Russophobia of some Russian people ... Previously, they told us, and they really believed that in Russia they hate lawlessness, lack of freedom of the press, etc. etc., what exactly is the indisputable presence of all this in it that they like Europe ... And now what do we see? As Russia, seeking more freedom, asserts itself more and more, the dislike of these gentlemen only intensifies. They never hated previous institutions so much as they hate modern trends in social thought in Russia.
    As for Europe, as we see, no violations in the field of justice, morality, and even civilization have in the least reduced their disposition towards it ... In a word, in the phenomenon I am talking about, there can be no question of principles as such only instincts ...
  28. Operator
    Operator 11 November 2019 15: 57
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    to the collapse of the country along the borders of this territorial-administrative division on a national basis

    So this is good: in Russia now the vast majority of Russians are over 80%. After reunification with Ukraine and Belarus, the specific number of Russians in the Russian Federation will exceed this figure for the Germans in Germany and will rise to the level of the Japanese in Japan. And what to do with the rest of the former Soviet republics, we will then figure it out.

    As comrade. Ulyanov-Lenin: "To unite, you must first dissociate yourself" bully
  29. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 11 November 2019 16: 13
    +6
    HSE, in fact, is a government agency. For the simple reason that everyone, I emphasize, ALL members of the government studied there, and continue to actively consult with their teachers. So it is difficult to overestimate the impact of the HSE on all aspects of the country's governance.
    It is gratifying that HSE teachers, like our entire intelligentsia, are not able to keep their mouths shut, openly showing everyone who they are, teachers and educators.
    What kind of attitude towards Russia and Russians do we expect from our government and "our" state, if such beacons of education were taught by our "elites"? It is not at all surprising to hear Shuvalov's cheerful laughter at these pathetic Russians who are forced to buy tiny apartments. I suppose over those who cannot afford such micro-residential areas, gentlemen, the government generally regrets to hysteria. And all other decisions and initiatives come from the same source.
    The purest source of contempt and hatred in "this country" and these Russians, whom you even disdain to call Russians, getting off with "Russians", has been carefully brought up in our elite. Combined with training, and, to put it bluntly, with the psycho-treatment that our rulers went through within the walls of the HSE, the mixture turns out to be simply amazing. Yes, HSE students cannot (and absolutely do not want) to improve the Russian economy. Siluanov has repeatedly said that he and his subordinates are absolutely satisfied with everything in the situation. Why, in fact? Why would people who hate and despise their former people care about it?
    The situation was very highlighted, thanks to Mr. Huseynov ...
  30. Jarserge
    Jarserge 11 November 2019 16: 18
    +4
    There was such a writer, Solzhenitsyn. He nakalyakal work, a collection of myths, past and fables about the Gulag. He also wrote in heavy unreadable language .. But swearing at the old authorities then was held in high esteem and promised the writer a prize and did not give. He was offended and became a dissident; everything was given there, and money and ranks. Then they even accepted it at home ... the intelligentsia almost prayed, but the people did not accept it. Modern people are insolent, they don’t write anything, they demand money and express their loyalty only to money .........
  31. tolancop
    tolancop 11 November 2019 16: 37
    +4
    Citizen Huseynov has every right to have his own opinion about the Russian language and to express it publicly (in the press, social networks, etc.). But the teacher of a university sponsored by a Russian state, if there is such an opinion, citizen Huseynov should not be. Under no circumstances. And not even because he receives money from the Russian state, but because the Russophobe does not teach love for his homeland, rather the opposite. Do we need it? The citizen revealed himself in full .... Further, he can apologize, make excuses, etc., but the essence of his filthy from this will not change. He will apologize and explain because under the 5th point he is caked, and not from a feeling of remorse. And his colleagues defending him, I am convinced, should also receive a ban on teaching in the territory of the Russian Federation. And there is nothing to be ashamed of, attacked - get an answer ... Ban on a profession? Of course!!! And there’s nothing wrong with that, such bans exist in Russia and it doesn’t bother anyone.
    And yet ... I don’t want to be accused of nationalism, etc., but I have the conviction: WE, Russians, can criticize the Russian language, because it is OUR LANGUAGE, and with all its PROBLEMS WE WILL UNDERSTAND. And citizen Huseynov may criticize his native language, judging by his last name, the Azerbaijani language. And the flag in his hands in this matter ....
  32. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 11 November 2019 17: 10
    +4
    Cloaky and wretched can only be called the Hussein family and that rabble, due to which Husseinov has not yet flown from Russian educational institutions to the wipers with a puppy screech!
  33. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 11 November 2019 17: 12
    +4
    And then such Hasans are offended when they are called "lumps" ...
  34. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 11 November 2019 23: 28
    0
    I think that all employees who receive payment from the budget should have great ranks and receive a basic salary that is the same for the whole country. There should also be a system of co-payments in remote areas and regions, for seniority, for continuing education, etc. .. I am not talking only about doctors and teachers. All public servants, including state-owned companies, should be paid the same, as has been customary since the time of Peter the Great.
  35. Falcon5555
    Falcon5555 12 November 2019 02: 45
    +1
    It is difficult to understand what kind of "advice" is there and why it and its meetings are needed.
    Moreover, Huseynov ran into not only the Russian language, if you carefully read his "cloach" post. And continues to run over. He has just advised the society (almost literally) “to be silent if you have found a cock's word” - whatever that means. On some sites, this is complete ecstasy:
    "Brilliantly, sparklingly, thanks!"
    "Well done Hasan! Unbearably powerful fellow!)))",
    "Handsome! On guard of the Russian language. And with wonderful humor. The wretchedness of the Russophobic trolls is obvious."
    etc.
    In a good way, HSE should get rid of it as soon as possible. Her reputation in society and so ... not too high, to say the least.
  36. wooja
    wooja 12 November 2019 04: 05
    0
    On the one hand, the professor is right, the current state of the Russian language leaves much to be desired ..., the possibilities and potential of the language are used very poorly, the modern newspeak is really clumsy ..., but there are not enough cultural cultures in the country ...,
  37. Alexander Strannik
    Alexander Strannik 12 November 2019 11: 15
    0
    Someone said somewhere about the Russian language ... So they are PAYED for changing OUR outlook and OUR outlook on a pleasing IM. I also want to say, although I understand that no one needs my opinion and my comments, IT IS TIME TO ENTER RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPINION OPINION, FOR THE AUTHORIZED PLOT OF WORK, FOR THE FINAL STATUS OF BUSINESS.
  38. Oleg Monarchist
    Oleg Monarchist 12 November 2019 17: 54
    +1
    Quote: astepanov
    Quote: Tatiana
    If you do not know how to analyze, then it would be better for you to be silent and not to throw labels!
    These are not labels. Nationalism, coupled with the idea of ​​infringing on the rights of "foreigners" is the main sign of fascism.


    If the philoluh Huseynov cannot correctly express his thought, then he is simply a fool. What did he say there? In Moscow there are no newspapers in English, Armenian, Uzbek, all only in Russian, which he hates so much. So ask him a question why Huseynov, together with various diasporas, will not throw off money and start publishing newspapers in other languages. Who should print newspapers? State? Sorry, for what a fright, the state should spend taxpayers' money on producing wasteful waste paper. So Huseynov is not only a muddle in philology, but also in economics.
  39. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 November 2019 21: 05
    +2
    Quote: tihonmarine

    Isn't it time they all foreign philologists and various interpreters of our native language in their own way to remove from all educational institutions of Russia, let them be just "state workers",

    There is such an expression in Russian - let the pig sit at the table and her legs at the table! Long it is time for Russian society to wake up from the liberal delirium of tolerance and pay tribute to all these Huseynov and other alien Russophobic rabble, using every opportunity to pour mud on Russia and the Russian people!
  40. VARCHUN
    VARCHUN 12 November 2019 23: 54
    0
    The Russian language and the Russians are two different things, but as for officials of all stripes, he is right to drive and drive them with a big broom, but who is it?
  41. lexx domainus
    lexx domainus 13 November 2019 02: 18
    +1
    Yes, the speech really became disgusting. So we must pity Professor Huseynov and take his citizenship from him and send him to restore his shaken psyche to his homeland. And the second, Medvedev s. Send to us, in the northeastern part of the Krasnoyarsk Territory, it is believed that our speech is closer to the classical Russian language. Let your ears please!
    ps.
    I try to write correctly, and then suddenly they will read a pro-professor and put a deuce. There is such kind of living creatures - parasites that live in someone’s organism consume the resources of this organism and cause great harm. So the names of parasites from the capital are not written.
  42. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 13 November 2019 11: 51
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    Especially in the subway, they often speak English.

    It is not.
    More often Russian speech is heard Uzbek, Tajik, Ukrainian speech.
    Not so long ago a friend from Nevel came.
    She has not been to Moscow for a long time.
    Her fresh look at the contingent of passengers in the Moscow metro struck me: "You have only Tajiks with Uzbeks in Moscow."
  43. iouris
    iouris 13 November 2019 15: 49
    +1
    1) It turns out that Guseinov is the greatest Russian philologist, a specialist in the state language of the Russian Federation. Other "philologists, too" have crawled under the benches and are not sticking out with their "expert opinion." But there were times when the head of state himself was the chief specialist in linguistics - the epics passed.
    2) The intelligentsia disappeared as a layer. She is no more.
    3) The goals of Huseynov, apparently, are: probing the situation (for this, they threw a pebble into the swamp and observe how the circles diverge); personal PR (the leadership of the university and the ministry of education, demshiza are obliged to rally around Huseynov for self-defense); promotion of the Turkish language in "Russian" Moscow, where a basically huge "Turkic" labor army is concentrated, which is beginning to influence.
  44. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 November 2019 18: 48
    0
    And that de ... deems himself a REAL INTELLIGENT.
    Quote: Civil
    Now in the comments friendship of peoples will begin to grow stronger! laughing
    And she was and will be with the People.
  45. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 November 2019 18: 57
    0
    Quote: Stas157
    He called the Russian language "foul" and "wretched." More precisely, not generally Russian language
    In any case, the professor of philologist at the Higher School of Economics did not speak "in Russian". It is difficult to understand that his scandalous statements related not to the Russian language itself, but to its modern development and use, as his "lawyers" assert.

    It is significant that Putin is also not satisfied with the current state of the language, and therefore demanded to streamline the norms of the Russian language. The truth did it without scandalous comparisons and did not cause any complaints.
    How can a philologist go on a business trip in January to the village of Ya Ya in the Kemerovo region with the aim of collecting oral folk dialect, fairy tales, legends laughing laughing
  46. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 November 2019 19: 04
    0
    Quote: iouris
    1) It turns out,:, a specialist in the state language of the Russian Federation. Other "philologists too" have crawled under the benches and are not sticking out with their "expert opinion." But there were times when the head of state himself was the chief specialist in linguistics - the epics passed.
    2) The intelligentsia disappeared as a layer. She is no more.
    3) The goals of Huseynov, apparently, are: probing the situation (for this, they threw a pebble into the swamp and observe how the circles diverge); personal PR (the leadership of the university and the ministry of education, demshiza are obliged to rally around Huseynov for self-defense); promotion of the Turkish language in "Russian" Moscow, where a basically huge "Turkic" labor army is concentrated, which is beginning to influence.

    Vladimir Dal went down in history as the author of The Explanatory Dictionary of the Living Great Russian Language. But the list of his achievements and titles is long: a folklore collector, the first Russian orientalist-Turkologist, one of the founders of the Russian Geographical Society, a representative of the “natural school” Father Danes Johann Christian Dahl, served as a doctor. Having adopted the name Ivan in Russia laughing What are the "works" from which you concluded: Guseinov - the greatest Russian philologist laughing
    1. iouris
      iouris 13 November 2019 22: 46
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      What are the "works" from which you concluded: Guseinov - the greatest Russian philologist

      Not "from works", but in fact: there are no other philologists.
  47. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 November 2019 19: 38
    0
    excuses G. Husseinov: You see, yes? That is, the language itself has nothing to do with it, although I called it cloacal. But all of you - in this "wild country" - you are all crap. You are poor because you react painfully to the insult of your language. Not mine - yours. Not in my country - in this country. In your wild country of the Lord, do you at least understand what this is all about? What does the right to freedom of speech and elementary rudeness and negligence that we encountered in the resonant post have to do with it?
  48. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 November 2019 19: 44
    +2
    Having received a harsh reaction from society and, importantly, his colleagues and superiors, citizen Huseynov decided to make excuses by first deleting the post itself.





    What's next? And then our writers stand up for G. Husseinov. The Free Word Writers Association supported the professor. Key argument: "you can't deny teachers and students the right to free expression"


    Do you know what I think about all this? This is the same circus, with pseudo-liberal clowns in the foreground. Why "pseudo"? Yes, because they speak, in fact, not about liberal values, but about complete licentiousness, about the ability to broadcast anything you want without any consequences for yourself. This is the direct path to transforming not only our language, but also our people and country into a "miserable cesspool", where no one will in any way stand up to defend reason and ethics, restraint and tact.
  49. nnz226
    nnz226 13 November 2019 20: 18
    +2
    In general, this office, it’s time for these HSEs to disperse with kicks! How did Christ do this by knocking out merchants from the temple ... Miscarriages of fat cattle?
  50. Oslyabya
    Oslyabya 14 November 2019 07: 58
    0
    The teacher of the 1 class made a newsletter to parents. The author's punctuation and spelling are fully preserved ...

    "Hello! December 27 will be the holiday" new year "! I really want us to be not the last, and to take part everywhere. The guys will have rivalries. They will want to be better from this. The stimulus will also increase. Since not all entertaining contests, so the same intellectual.
    The coming year is the year of the mouse. TK The costumes of just mice are already occupied by 1 "in" class, their teacher is a Gibus, and the kids are mice. We're going to be mini miki mice. A very good idea seems to me. "
    1. iouris
      iouris 14 November 2019 16: 12
      -1
      The degradation of the Russian language begins with the degradation of the speakers of the Russian language, and the degradation of the speakers of the Russian language is a controlled process. Who was there in 1945 said "we will oskotin Russia"? Here is the result.