Russian Navy may receive new "stealth corvettes"

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In the future, the Russian naval fort may be armed with corvettes with a hull of radar absorbing composite materials. The preliminary design of such a corvette was developed by the Krylov State Scientific Center (KSCC) in conjunction with the Almaz design bureau. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the shipbuilding industry.

Russian Navy may receive new "stealth corvettes"

Corvette "Lively" of the 20380 project




According to the agency, KGNTs and KB Almaz completed the preliminary design of a new promising corvette, the hull and superstructures of which are planned to be built from carbon-based radar absorbing composite materials. It is assumed that the radar visibility of the ship, in comparison with similar metal corvettes, will be 15 times less, and the payload with the same displacement will be 20% higher. Also, the range of its detection by locators will decrease by 50-70%, and by thermal imagers - by 20%.

KSCC together with the central marine design bureau Almaz developed a preliminary design of a promising corvette with a hull and a superstructure of carbon-based radar absorbing composite materials

- the agency leads the words of the source.

According to available information, the maximum displacement of the corvette as part of the outline design is laid within 1000 tons. The project number and the name of the future ship have not yet been determined; details of the project are not given.

Currently, as part of the Russian fleet there are already ships with hulls made of composite materials - these are mine defense ships (sea minesweepers) of project 12700 Alexandrite with a displacement of 800 tons. The hull of these ships is made of monolithic fiberglass formed by vacuum infusion.


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    1. +12
      9 November 2019 10: 44
      Here is the case for the IPC. 1000 tons is the most for the hunter.
      1. +8
        9 November 2019 11: 12
        Quote: Marconi41
        Here is the case for the IPC. 1000 tons is the most for the hunter.

        The idea is sound, but for this it is necessary to complete the modernization of the Central Nevsky Shipyard. We need both basic minesweepers and hunters, and if you give both projects in one hand, the plant will simply stand up and there will be neither one nor the other in the right quantity. Opportunities in three buildings a year, announced recently, are not enough for two projects. It means either to expand the Sredne Nevsky Shipyard again, or to transfer its competencies and open a branch.
        Do you agree?
        1. +1
          9 November 2019 17: 44
          Quote: Orkraider
          The idea is sound, but for this it is necessary to complete the modernization of the Central Nevsky Shipyard.


          Already not funny. 1000 tons, complete unsuitability for repair, which is the first condition for a warship. And what kind of corvette project will it be in the Navy - 4 or 5. fool
      2. +24
        9 November 2019 12: 47
        Russian Navy may receive new "stealth corvettes"

        And I can win a billion lottery
        1. +13
          9 November 2019 15: 17
          And the second is most likely the first. smile
        2. +9
          9 November 2019 22: 35
          And I can win a billion lottery

          A good illustration of the quality of pearls issued by our media.
          But it is enough to amputate the news seed from the news, and you get a completely acceptable message:
          "The Krylov State Scientific Center (KGNTs), together with the Almaz design bureau, has developed a draft design of a corvette with a body made of radio-absorbing composite materials."
          One bad luck - this is where the news ends.
      3. 0
        9 November 2019 13: 22
        Quote: Marconi41
        Here is the case for the IPC. 1000 tons is the most for the hunter.

        I learned not so long ago that it was the Russian scientists who managed to get carbon nanotubes the diameter of an atom. And if they don’t lie sources, then so far we have succeeded. Everything would be fine, but these nanotubes give any substance into which they will add completely new properties.
        I suspect that this technology and the subsequent buildings of frigates, destroyers, cruisers, apparently this technology will be applied. Maybe I'm wrong, but something tells me that the legs grow from there.
        1. -4
          9 November 2019 13: 25
          Quote: NEXUS
          I learned not so long ago that it was the Russian scientists who managed to obtain carbon nanotubes with a diameter of an atom

          In what hut did you find out?
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          1. +2
            9 November 2019 14: 08
            Quote from rudolf
            Andrei, are you talking about graphene by any chance? A two-dimensional allotropic modification of carbon formed by a layer of carbon atoms one atom thick.

            No, I'm talking not only about the creation of graphene, but also about the production of single-walled nanotubes on an industrial scale, the product of which, at a price significantly lower than in the West ... the product is called, if Sclerosis-Tuball doesn’t fail me.
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              1. 0
                9 November 2019 14: 41
                Quote from rudolf
                Well, if Chubais will do this ...

                Not Red, but Koropachinsky.
            2. +5
              9 November 2019 14: 36
              Quote: NEXUS
              the product is called if Sclerosis-Tuball doesn’t fail me.


              A pilot industrial plant for the synthesis of single-wall carbon nanotubes Graphetron 1.0 is installed at the Center for Nanomodified Materials of the Technopark of the Novosibirsk Academgorodok, in the R&D center of the OCSiAl company.


              OCSiAl itself is located in Luxembourg. It has offices in the USA, Russia, China and India. And this is alarming.
              1. -1
                9 November 2019 14: 44
                Quote: Choi
                OCSiAl itself is located in Luxembourg. It has offices in the USA, Russia, China and India. And this is alarming.

                Legally, the business consists of several Russian and one Luxembourg company (it protects intellectual property and deals with international sales), which operate in the markets of nine countries. In 2018, the company sold 5 tons of 11,7 tons of synthesized products. 17 t was also contracted. According to Future Markets analysts, last year OCSiAl accounted for 86% of world production and 95% of global sales of an innovative product.

                Difficulties with the “dilution” of other materials with nanotubes eventually gave birth to a new line of business, OCSiAl, which the company created in a laboratory in Novosibirsk. The start-up was engaged in the production of MATRIX products in which nanotubes are already contained in high concentrations, so that they are easy to add in the right proportions. This has expanded the range of customers who can use Tuball.

                In total, according to the calculations of the founders of OCSiAl, the use of Tuball will increase the energy efficiency of electric vehicles by more than 50% and jeopardize the hegemony of internal combustion engines.

                Koropachinsky claims that seven out of ten world leading power supply manufacturers test or use Tuball to extend their life and increase battery capacity. Among the startup's customers are leading manufacturers of tires, silicones, polyurethanes, plastics and composites, as well as equipment for the mining industry

                Something like this ...
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    2. +9
      9 November 2019 10: 46
      And can you just begin to lay 20380? Alexandrites can be built no more than three at the same time, and the Central Nevsky Shipyard will not pull corvettes at the same time, and apart from him, like no one has experience working with the production of fiberglass hulls.
      1. +3
        9 November 2019 10: 57
        I agree. Only the A-190, in my opinion, needs to be replaced with something anti-aircraft, and the inclined Uranus launchers with a missile launcher under the PLUR (long arm).
        A 1000 tons for the IPC with a vent is not enough
      2. 0
        9 November 2019 14: 25
        Right!!! It is only possible to reduce the cost of changing the A-190 to the AK-176MA, but for Uranus, in the dimensions of its TPK, it is still necessary to develop a PLUR with a launch range of 25-30 km.
    3. +1
      9 November 2019 10: 51
      Again, Small missile, corvettes, "Karakurt" ... Where are the destroyers?
      1. -3
        9 November 2019 12: 01
        Quote: Nycomed
        Again, Small missile, corvettes, "Karakurt" ... Where are the destroyers?


        Everything has its time. The work is on.
        Initially, it was assumed that at least two more frigates of project 22350 would be laid. However, apparently, a decision was made in favor of the further construction of new frigates under an improved project - 22350M.


        In fact, in terms of their displacement and combat capabilities, promising Project 22350M frigates will approach destroyer-class ships. Presumably, the composition of the missile armament on the promising frigate will increase 1.5 times compared to the existing frigates of project 22350 and will consist of 3 universal shipborne firing complexes (UKSK) for 8 cells for the Onyx anti-ship missiles or cruise missiles of the Caliber family (on the frigate of the project 22350 - 2 UKSK) and 3 vertical launchers of the Polyment-Redut anti-aircraft missile system, 16 cells each (on frigates of Project 22350, there are a total of 32 launching cells for anti-aircraft missiles).

        It is likely that the ship’s radio equipment will be significantly improved, which will allow the promising frigate to more effectively carry out combat missions, for example, providing air defense and anti-submarine defense of a ship’s formation.

        https://dfnc.ru/c106-technika/dlya-vmf-rossii-budet-zalozhen-pervyj-fregat-proekta-22350m/
      2. +7
        9 November 2019 17: 05
        Quote: Nycomed
        Where are the destroyers?

        In the fleets of various other countries.
    4. +8
      9 November 2019 11: 04
      Stealth? How so? Not really on a rake of a deadlock? bully or still the defense ministry knows more than sofa specialists hi
      1. +8
        9 November 2019 11: 09
        Stealth? How so? Not really on a rake of a deadlock? bully or nevertheless the defense ministry knows more of the sofa specialists hi

        Unfortunately, MO does not read VO. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain such nonsense, because VO experts have proven that "stealth" is not "stealth" and Pythagoras is great!
        1. +1
          9 November 2019 11: 43
          For some reason, Pythagoras’s pants are equal on all sides! And if he had a calculator, they would certainly not be equal! laughing
          1. -2
            9 November 2019 11: 58
            For some reason, Pythagoras’s pants are equal on all sides! And if he had a calculator, they would certainly not be equal! laughing

            lol
    5. 0
      9 November 2019 11: 09
      And it’s easy to make a hole from a DShK.
      1. +4
        9 November 2019 11: 52
        Of course, like any other corps (not tank)
    6. +3
      9 November 2019 11: 15
      Another RTO displacement, at best, 1000t ....
      1. +1
        9 November 2019 14: 41
        This is not an RTO, but an OVR corvette
    7. +8
      9 November 2019 11: 24
      maybe it won’t get
    8. +10
      9 November 2019 11: 28
      Again, the news from the series - maybe it will be developed, design began, etc.
      1. -1
        9 November 2019 16: 59
        You are wrong. "Draft design" and "design started" are two big differences.
    9. +2
      9 November 2019 11: 45
      It’s just that Russia is a very rich country, it is building several projects of the same type of ship, type 3 military helicopters, tanks and airplanes even more, is it not better to focus on one in its class.
    10. +8
      9 November 2019 11: 51
      "It is assumed that the ship's radar signature, in comparison
      with similar corvettes made of metal, it will be 15 times smaller, "////
      -----
      And nobody believes about Zumvolt .... crying
      1. +4
        9 November 2019 14: 30
        Quote: voyaka uh
        nobody believes about Zumvolt ....

        Никто. Yes Only somewhere in the Middle East desert, a stream of boiling water still lashes ... fellow wassat
      2. +1
        9 November 2019 16: 45
        Quote: voyaka uh
        nobody believes about Zumvolt ....

        so the Amer retarded stealth, and here having no analogs in the world!
    11. +8
      9 November 2019 11: 55
      request "... Maybe not, maybe yes
      Or maybe these are all words ... "(c)
      recourse Do it first, and then crow for the whole world! Well, no, they used to work quietly on military equipment. Worked! And did not declare intentions on every corner.
    12. +3
      9 November 2019 11: 58
      Another type of corvette - the fourth kind?
      1. +9
        9 November 2019 15: 02
        Quote: Good_Anonymous
        Another type of corvette - the fourth kind?

        Yes hesitated already. The bred KB and pseudo-KB, as if from a cornucopia, began to pour a great many floodlights, series, modernizations, types, projects and other unrealizable ideas onto the heads of the military. It is necessary to show the appearance of rough work. And they are well aware that 99% of all these fantasies will never be in metal and will never be in the sea. For a reason (think for yourself, there are a lot of them).
        Yes, finally begin to build a series of existing projects, and not 1 - 2 ships. And then - cheers, we came up with even better!
    13. +4
      9 November 2019 12: 15
      And how many times will the construction period, the cost of construction and maintenance be increased? I'm not talking about the fact that repair of combat damage by the crew will be impossible ... you can’t weld a hole by welding
      1. 0
        10 November 2019 08: 03
        Dichloroethane will be glued .. or epoxy with fiberglass ..))
    14. +6
      9 November 2019 13: 01
      And such a case will cost at the price of gold.
    15. +2
      9 November 2019 13: 05
      It may or may not get a good name. But you can already start to rejoice in "successes".
      1. -2
        10 November 2019 19: 32
        Oh, can you already celebrate the revival of the fleet?
    16. +3
      9 November 2019 13: 36
      Russian Navy may receive new "stealth corvettes"
      They vividly reminded a joke: .........
      - And what is the name of the person who can, but does not want.
      Lone female voice: - svolach. feel
      1. -5
        9 November 2019 14: 30
        I remembered another joke on this occasion:
        In circus performance, death number.
        The trainer hits the lion on the head, it opens its mouth, the trainer puts "this" in its mouth, hits it on the head again, the mouth closes, hits it again - it opens. Question to the audience:
        - Anyone wanting to repeat?
        From the audience a quiet female voice:
        - May I ... Only on the head, please do not hit.
        laughing
        1. 0
          9 November 2019 14: 37
          Quote: lexus
          I remembered another joke on this occasion

          Flood is prohibited wink
          1. +3
            9 November 2019 14: 43
            This comrade cannot do otherwise
          2. -5
            9 November 2019 14: 53
            Kat, you and your retinue are right there. So be it, I will not hit on the head. Only in line, please. In other cases, medicine is not powerless, contact and you will be helped. The only, absent conscience will not be returned either to you or to the pathological nonsense from the authorities.
            1. -3
              9 November 2019 14: 56
              What did they say now - did they themselves understand?

              I repeat, my friend: flood is prohibited. What is a flood - you will find in Google yourself, tea, not a master.
              1. -3
                9 November 2019 15: 43
                You are to my homies, who rushed mine now, incl. hysterically neglect past comments; please note that punishment is also provided for artificially underestimating the rating on the Military Review. And then bring them under the monastery. And close your false accounts away from sin, this is also punishable. Still perfectly visible. Do not consider yourself smarter than others, for this is far from the case. As far as I know, the Site Administration has not delegated the supervisory functions to you. And, for all the time I have not seen a single comment on the topic of articles. So in the flood I can not reach you far.
                1. -1
                  9 November 2019 15: 45
                  Quote: lexus
                  Lexus

                  Man, are you really in yourself? belay laughing

                  Quote: lexus
                  for artificially underestimating the rating at the Military Review, the punishment is provided

                  And for the artificial increase - too wink
                  1. -4
                    9 November 2019 15: 57
                    And for the artificial increase - too

                    You just for this "lowered". laughing
                    1. -3
                      9 November 2019 16: 16
                      Quote: lexus
                      "dropped"

                      Be careful with the terminology, buddy. Or laurels of "sling cutter" do not give you rest? wink laughing
                2. -4
                  9 November 2019 16: 40
                  Quote: lexus
                  You are to my homies, who rushed mine now, incl. hysterically neglect past comments; please note that punishment is also provided for artificially underestimating the rating on the Military Review. And then bring them under the monastery. And close your false accounts away from sin, this is also punishable. Still perfectly visible. Do not consider yourself smarter than others, for this is far from the case. As far as I know, the Site Administration has not delegated the supervisory functions to you. And, for all the time I have not seen a single comment on the topic of articles. So in the flood I can not reach you far.

                  This is what kind of cry Yaroslavna belay Then exchange the white horse for a donkey, since such a commander can a handkerchief serve? smile
                3. -5
                  9 November 2019 16: 55
                  Quote: lexus
                  You to your homies

                  Yes, and you are not too lazy Yes , chew and put in your mouth. And then just some celestial, not from this world. And then you are like a bride in all white, and the rest all in black.
                  1. -4
                    9 November 2019 17: 03
                    Quote: Rusland
                    you are like a bride in all white, and the rest is all in black

                    It's grooms camping laughing
          3. -4
            9 November 2019 17: 02
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            Quote: lexus
            I remembered another joke on this occasion

            Flood is prohibited wink

            Found how to scare him, Buddy. hi
    17. +4
      9 November 2019 14: 12
      I have a feeling that soon our fleet will be very small, but there will be even more different types of ships than in the French fleet of "samples" of the end of the century before last.
      You can understand the designers, they are generally for the construction of a bunch of single ships, loot is necessary. But what are the admirals thinking?
    18. -5
      9 November 2019 14: 23
      Russian naval fort in the future may receive

      According to the agency, KGNTs and KB "Almaz" have completed preliminary design

      What we should build a house - we will draw, we will live (C) From a children's verse.
      Full planning and timely implementation of these plans have been replaced by "Manilovism" everywhere.
      You might as well be relieved without reaching the toilet, or start gushing joyfully before, in fact, the process of fulfilling your conjugal duty.
      There is no result, but the finish is already there. Then you can not rush, and, as it were, there is no need to.
      1. -3
        9 November 2019 14: 44
        Besides stupid humor, can you write something else?
        Sent a complaint for the flood
        1. -3
          9 November 2019 15: 15
          You're welcome. It's that simple. It is much easier than attracting the Ministry of Defense and the state apparatus as a whole, which both the fleet and the country were thrown into the cutting ground. Flattering the failed results with new promises.
    19. +6
      9 November 2019 14: 54
      If you compare "can get it and start building" there is some / big difference.
    20. +2
      9 November 2019 15: 00
      Maybe he wants to, but with our "sawmills", "successful managers" and "masters" he will hardly ever get it ...
    21. +3
      9 November 2019 15: 59
      Well, maybe enough? D have cancer richer in thought. Close the children's modeling circle and start building something
    22. -3
      9 November 2019 16: 48
      Well, I don’t know, a ship is a very healthy bandurin, that even if you make it from a tree, it will still be detected quite easily
    23. +4
      9 November 2019 18: 04
      * The hull and superstructures of which are planned to be built from carbon-based radar absorbing composite materials. It is assumed that the radar visibility of the ship, compared to similar metal corvettes, will be 15 times less, and the payload with the same displacement will be 20% more. Also, the range of its detection by locators will decrease by 50-70%, *
      It turns out that the words of my boss mean, they must be glued.
      Then, the position of the factory management is understandable. We are welded, not needed. Let them quit. All generalists and quit. Now we teach new arrivals to cook.
      But it turns out that it is! It will be necessary to glue, not cook ...
    24. +2
      9 November 2019 18: 46
      STA !? One more corvettes? Why optimize? Why develop and improve the finished? After all, you can rivet as many as 6 pieces and again come up with a new project ....
    25. 0
      9 November 2019 18: 46
      the idea is good in itself, but I did not understand about carbon, but how much will it cost? at the price of 1 kg fiberglass 10 $? how much it costs, too, but in carbon fiber, according to my information, 10 times more .... Based on the technology for the production of fiberglass (and carbon fiber) ships, there is no point in this corvette .... because a significant part of the cost will be spent on the manufacture of the matrix, it is advisable it would be to make a corvette (MPC) in the matrix for the hulls of manufactured minesweepers (displacement of 720-890 tons) and transfer the empty hull from Pella to the Northern Shipyard for equipment and completion, (why bother for an extra 110 tons?) ....
      1. -2
        10 November 2019 08: 06
        And they could make reinforced concrete bodies .. cheap and cheerful ..
      2. +3
        10 November 2019 17: 14
        * The idea is good in itself, but I did not understand about carbon, but how much will it cost? at the price of 1 kg fiberglass 10 $? how much it costs, too, but in carbon fiber, according to my information, 10 times more .... Based on the technology for the production of fiberglass (and carbon fiber) ships, there is no sense in this corvette .... because a significant part of the cost will be spent on the manufacture of the matrix, *
        The idea is divine simply. But as usual, they forgot about the ravines.
        But walk along them! ..
        Most likely this is no conversation. Or the Russian Federation has developed the latest technology for composites. About which I personally do not know anything.
        At our factory, the whole workshop was engaged in ship composites. My friend closest to this day works there. He did not report anything to me beyond the natural.
        Moreover, the composite is not particularly respected in the construction of more or less large vessels.
    26. 0
      9 November 2019 18: 49
      Or maybe he won’t get it ...
    27. +4
      9 November 2019 22: 29
      Regular searchlights and miracle ships. The next allocation of money for research and development, and the output is only models in salons.
    28. NBV
      0
      4 December 2019 21: 28
      Maybe or get it?

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