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China refused to join Russia-US disarmament talks

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The People's Republic of China is ready to reduce its nuclear potential, but will not join the negotiations of the United States and Russia on the problems of further disarmament. This was stated by Director of the Department of Arms Control of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China, Phu Tsun.


China refused to join Russia-US disarmament talks


Speaking at a conference on nuclear non-proliferation in Moscow, Fu Tsong said China would not shy away from fulfilling its nuclear non-proliferation obligations. weapons and ready to reduce its nuclear arsenal "to honest limits." However, Beijing will not join the talks between Moscow and Washington on further nuclear disarmament.

China does not shy away from fulfilling its own duties, does not shy away from responsibility. We are ready to reduce nuclear arsenals to honest levels. If other countries keep their arsenals to the level of China, we are ready to join this process. However, it is unrealistic to expect China to join tripartite talks.

- He said.

The Chinese representative said that behind the desire of the United States to attract China to the trilateral arms reduction talks, Washington’s intention is to distract from the real goals of the United States. In his opinion, this is just "an occasion for the United States to withdraw from some other important international agreement."

Earlier, Fu Tsong said that Chinese medium-range missiles do not pose a threat to the United States if American ships do not come close to the territory of China.

I think that China’s capabilities in the area of ​​medium-range missiles are not a destabilizing factor. Our missiles are in our territory. They do not pose a threat to the United States, in any case, if the United States does not bring its ships too close to our territory

- he stressed.

In Washington, it was previously proposed that Beijing be involved in the negotiations on START-3 conservation.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 November 2019 11: 21
    +7
    China does not shy away from fulfilling its own duties, does not shy away from responsibility. We are ready to reduce nuclear arsenals to honest levels. If other countries keep their arsenals to the level of China, we are ready to join this process. However, it is unrealistic to expect China to join tripartite talks.
    Everything is correct and reasoned.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 8 November 2019 12: 06
      +7
      We need to take an example from China. Whoever disarms always loses. It's like throwing a white flag. An example of the USSR and Gorbachev on the face. Like the example of China by Deng Xiaoping. Why step on the same rake a second time? request sad
      1. Vladtrigu
        Vladtrigu 8 November 2019 13: 15
        0
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        We need to take an example from China.


        Do it right. The Chinese respect themselves, in contrast to the near
      2. den3080
        den3080 8 November 2019 13: 18
        +12
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        We need to take an example from China. Whoever disarms always loses. It's like throwing a white flag. An example of the USSR and Gorbachev on the face. Like the example of China by Deng Xiaoping. Why step on the same rake a second time? request sad

        Remembering the old joke:
        Reagan and Gorbachev are sitting at the table, opposite each other. Prison robes. Eat barley from aluminum bowls.
        Suddenly, Reagan rubbed his spoon on Gorbachev’s bald head:
        Disarmed cattle !!
        The door opens, a Chinese soldier enters:
        Have you talked? Have bitten? - In the cameras.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 8 November 2019 13: 28
          0
          5 points !!! wassat laughing laughing drinks
  2. Livonetc
    Livonetc 8 November 2019 11: 22
    +1
    Until China returns the island of Taiwan to its "home harbor", the strengthening of China's military potential will definitely continue
    1. 210ox
      210ox 8 November 2019 11: 25
      +7
      Most likely, after returning to Formosa’s home harbor, the Chinese will build up their weapons.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 8 November 2019 11: 32
        +7
        Formosa will NEVER voluntarily return to its "home harbor".
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 8 November 2019 11: 43
          +2
          Of course it won’t come back. There, at one time, the whole counter moved. And both sides have something to remember each other. It doesn't smell good!
    2. GKS 2111
      GKS 2111 8 November 2019 11: 27
      +8
      I think that the strengthening of the military potential of China will definitely continue, regardless of whether the island of Taiwan will return to its native harbor ..
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 8 November 2019 11: 43
      +2
      Quote: Livonetc
      Until China returns the island of Taiwan to its "home harbor", the strengthening of China's military potential will definitely continue

      China has many territorial claims, and this is not only Taiwan, their influence goes far to southeast Asia, as an example of Spratly Island.
      And most importantly, China has territorial claims against India, and in the future I am sure to present it to us.
    4. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 November 2019 11: 51
      -4
      Quote: Livonetc
      Until China returns the island of Taiwan to its "home harbor", the strengthening of China's military potential will definitely continue

      Hong Kong was returned, and Formosa will be returned.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 8 November 2019 11: 57
        +7
        Nobody "returned" Hong Kong, it was simply transferred to China by Great Britain after the end of the 99-year lease.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 8 November 2019 12: 00
          -9
          Quote: Nycomed
          Nobody "returned" Hong Kong, it was simply transferred to China by Great Britain after the end of the 99-year lease.

          How to say. We, too, should "children of the Great Lakes" return Alaska 50 years ago, but they did not return it, but why did the Britons run away to give the Chinese a tasty morsel?
          1. Nycomed
            Nycomed 8 November 2019 12: 15
            +8
            And Russia did not lease Alaska, the Russian Empire sold it (Alaska) corny. And for how much and where is the money, this is not a question for the States, but for our sovereigns, the emperors and those persons to whom they entrusted the accompaniment of this transaction. By the way, in the United States, many in the top officials were against the purchase of Alaska, saying: "why spend money on buying a snowdrift with snow."
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 8 November 2019 14: 15
              -4
              Quote: Nycomed
              But Russia did not rent Alaska, the Russian Empire sold it (Alaska)

              Sold for a hundred years.
              1. Nycomed
                Nycomed 8 November 2019 14: 39
                +2
                Do you have a copy of the document? Selling is forever. Rent - for a while.
              2. Greenwood
                Greenwood 8 November 2019 15: 15
                0
                No, they sold off to cut budget expenses and compensate landlords for losses from the abolition of serfdom.
                1. mvmptzna
                  mvmptzna 9 November 2019 03: 40
                  -2
                  Quote: Greenwood
                  No, they sold off to cut budget expenses and compensate landlords for losses from the abolition of serfdom.

                  There is an opinion that they sold because they were afraid that they could not keep it. Too remote territory from the center and from the army. The transfer and supply of troops from one edge of Russia to another, and now the task is not simple and not one week, and then with an even larger area - is simply impossible.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 8 November 2019 13: 11
        +1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Hong Kong was returned, and Formosa will be returned.

        Hong Kong was RETURNED to them since the term of the lease of the city by the British ended
    5. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 November 2019 13: 45
      +2
      Following this logic, we also have to do this until we return Alaska. negative laughing
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 8 November 2019 15: 17
        +2
        No one will return Alaska. She was sold meet. This time. Alaskans themselves will never want to go to Russia. These are two. Compare the standard of living in Alaska with the standard of living in the Far East. Conclusions ask for themselves.
        1. 1970mk
          1970mk 8 November 2019 17: 08
          0
          Well, yes ... who is Mother in Russia))) In Alaska, all absolutely residents get, by the way, about 100t.r. in terms of natural resources mined there.
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 8 November 2019 18: 00
          0
          Who knows, how to know, Hitler also built a thousand-year Reich, where entot Reich, al. Nothing is given to foresee.
  3. knn54
    knn54 8 November 2019 11: 23
    +5
    Where is France, Great Britain?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 8 November 2019 11: 50
      0
      Quote: knn54
      Where is France, Great Britain?

      In Trump's right pocket.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 8 November 2019 11: 58
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: knn54
        Where is France, Great Britain?

        In Trump's right pocket.

        back ... in trousers.
    2. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 8 November 2019 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: knn54
      Where is France, Great Britain?

      In France and the UK ..
      1. knn54
        knn54 8 November 2019 12: 05
        0
        Only? I doubt it.
    3. Oleg Zorin
      Oleg Zorin 8 November 2019 13: 39
      0
      And what, is someone really threatening them with something?
  4. bear
    bear 8 November 2019 11: 27
    +4
    That's right, amers do not respect themselves.
  5. Nycomed
    Nycomed 8 November 2019 11: 30
    +3
    Did anyone expect something else from China? No one's interests, besides their own, do not bother them.
    1. abc_alex
      abc_alex 8 November 2019 11: 44
      +6
      Quote: Nycomed
      Did anyone expect something else from China? No one's interests, besides their own, do not bother them.

      Here you are wrong. Obviously, bringing China to START is pointless. His nuclear potential is not the same. Just think about how to conduct a joint reduction? To a certain threshold in quantity? But what if China does not have so many warheads? For a certain amount? But then it turns out that the United States will reduce 1%, and China 10. By a certain percentage? But then it turns out that already the USA and Russia are cutting more quantitatively than China.
      The Chinese said correctly, the topic of China is now used by the United States as an excuse to exit the arms limitation system. And yes, indeed, there is no logic in involving China in bilateral negotiations on the INF Treaty. If our missiles can at least theoretically threaten US allies in NATO, then there are none in SEA.
  6. faterdom
    faterdom 8 November 2019 11: 42
    +2
    Of course. I suspect that medium- and shorter-range missiles are China’s main nuclear power. Therefore, it does not make sense to China to discuss it with such a sharpie as the United States. Even just endlessly conduct such negotiations - and then there is simply nothing and no reason.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 8 November 2019 12: 00
      +3
      Quote: faterdom
      Of course. I suspect that medium- and shorter-range missiles are China’s main nuclear power.

      China is in space, so he has an ICBM. No one knows how much.
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 8 November 2019 11: 49
    0
    The Chinese representative said that behind the desire of the United States to attract China to the trilateral arms reduction talks, Washington’s intention is to distract from the real goals of the United States.
    That the United States has hidden intentions is not news to anyone, and what goals they pursue are not known, but as always they say one thing and do another. Only with the Chinese they will not have such a number. When the Anglo-Saxons did not even exist, the Chinese commander Sun Tzu wrote his work "The Art of War". So it is useless for the Americans to launch another Desa.
    1. A.TOR
      A.TOR 8 November 2019 14: 56
      0
      If we call things "by their proper names", then Sun Tzu's creation is waste paper.
      The Chinese Armed Forces have beaten a lot and often in history, and almost all with whom China fought.
      Mr. Tzu wrote on paper a huge list of the platitudes that have been known since the advent of meaningful humanity.
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 8 November 2019 11: 49
    0
    A difficult question ... perhaps they themselves understand what is good for them and what is dangerous.
  9. ZVS
    ZVS 8 November 2019 11: 50
    +2
    Negotiations should be conducted by all member countries of the nuclear club. There should be Great Britain, France, Israel, India and Pakistan.
  10. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 8 November 2019 11: 51
    +7
    Comrade Si is not Michal Sergeyevich and will not cut his missiles to please Uncle Sam. No.
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 8 November 2019 12: 39
      +3
      You are right, China will not cut its missiles, because He will try, in 5-6 years, to take the whole world under his leadership. First of all, close neighbors.
  11. prior
    prior 8 November 2019 11: 59
    +1
    China refused to play poker with a sharpie.
  12. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 8 November 2019 12: 13
    0
    China’s capabilities in medium-range missiles are not a destabilizing factor. Our missiles are in our territory. They do not pose a threat to the United States, in any case, if the United States does not bring its ships too close to our territory

    Good reasoned position. For the past 100 years, China has not stated aloud that it will attack any countries. Yes, there are claims to the disputed islands, but he will figure it out without RSD. So the position is reinforced concrete - RSD is a defensive weapon that does not threaten the States. And they, like, are not our enemies, or these missiles do not reach us. In general, tough, clear, understandable in the case.
  13. polar fox
    polar fox 8 November 2019 12: 17
    +2
    who reforges swords for yelling, he plows on the one who did not reforges (c) ... reasonably like.
  14. Knizhnik
    Knizhnik 8 November 2019 12: 18
    +1
    In other words, the US has no confidence
  15. SERGEY SERGEEVICS
    SERGEY SERGEEVICS 8 November 2019 12: 29
    +1
    China refused to join Russia-US disarmament talks
    And he did the right thing, there will be less and less problems in the future.
  16. askort154
    askort154 8 November 2019 12: 29
    +2
    Our missiles are in our territory. They do not pose a threat to the United States, in any case, if the United States does not bring its ships too close to our territory

    Clearly! I see! Without diplomatic snot. We would be so. yes
    1. L-39NG
      L-39NG 8 November 2019 12: 46
      0
      Are missiles being made so that "They do not pose a threat to the United States"? So for Russia? "Our missiles are on our territory" - does it mean a threat only to its own territory, as long as "the United States does not bring its ships too close to our territory"?
      A great example of the Chinese philosophy of war, aimed at deceiving the enemy.
  17. Nenie Lynn
    Nenie Lynn 8 November 2019 12: 59
    -3
    But why are Uryatics so happy about failure? What kind of master do they serve? Is it that China borders on the United States and has territorial claims against them? Just the same to Russia. request
  18. Franciscan
    Franciscan 8 November 2019 13: 10
    0
    They want to put China on a short leash.
  19. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2019 13: 12
    -1
    Quote: Aerodrome
    Quote: faterdom
    Of course. I suspect that medium- and shorter-range missiles are China’s main nuclear power.

    China is in space, so he has an ICBM. No one knows how much.

    Do not invent. Basically, the development of strategic forces in any state is controlled by other members of the nuclear club. You can make a mistake of 5-10 units, but the total amount is still miscalculated. In 2019, the same China, according to experts, is about 90-100 ICBMs.
  20. Karaul14
    Karaul14 8 November 2019 13: 35
    0
    Clearly, the START treaty will not be extended.
  21. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 November 2019 13: 40
    +2
    China refused to join Russia-US disarmament talks

    I want to express my own opinion. After WWII, only China had direct armed clashes with the USSR ... I do not recall a single armed conflict between the PRC and the USA ... All disputes and omissions between these countries are limited to endless "Chinese" and "American" warnings ... China has not concluded not a single nuclear arms treaty with either Russia or the United States ... China has not supported any military intervention on either side ... To visit a "good-neighborly" country, Russians must obtain a visa ... China considers Siberia and the Far East its fiefdom and economic activity of China in these regions causes continuous criticism ...
    The predominance of the INF Treaty over the MKR in the structure of the Chinese Armed Forces is obvious. With all their wishes, they will not be at war with the United States (with the exception of border conflicts), which does not exclude new territorial claims against Russia. Of the two migration routes: overseas to the USA (Yellowstone caldera) and through Amur and Mongolia to Russia, China will choose ... guess what ...
    All this eastern wisdom is written by forks on the water of Lake Baikal. China already lacks regular drinking water.
    I do not expect anything good from the PRC. Absolutely nothing. Xerox country - it simply can not give Russia anything in terms of development. And I do not observe good neighbors in these people, who even today use only the grave condition of the Russian economy.
  22. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2019 13: 43
    -2
    Quote: Karaul14
    Clearly, the START treaty will not be extended.

    Perhaps it will be. It all depends on the political situation in the United States. Trump acts like an elephant in a china shop. But they also have smart people in the Senate and Congress. And they understand that the agreement is still beneficial to the United States. It will be beneficial for renewal.
    But if Trump overpowers, the United States may break the treaty. There will be nothing good from this, including and for the USA
  23. Lesorub
    Lesorub 8 November 2019 15: 02
    +1
    China refused to join Russia-US disarmament talks

    The essence of these negotiations is not clear, at one time we were left without short-range missiles - I see no point! Yes, and without China, these negotiations are meaningless. We have a "neighbor" with a full range of ICBMs.
  24. Elephant
    Elephant 8 November 2019 15: 21
    0
    Perhaps the Chinese spinal cord feel that negotiating with the Americans on such a strategically important issue is absolutely pointless.
  25. Old26
    Old26 8 November 2019 18: 02
    -2
    Quote: Lesorub
    The essence of these negotiations is not clear, at one time we were left without short-range missiles - I see no point! Yes, and without China, these negotiations are meaningless. We have a "neighbor" with a full range of ICBMs.

    In order for the negotiations to even begin, not only political will is required, but also some "common denominator". And this is not observed. It is not clear what could become the basis for such trilateral negotiations. We will hardly be able to find common ground under a trilateral agreement.
  26. mvmptzna
    mvmptzna 9 November 2019 03: 34
    -2
    What is the agreement there. They still have to master Siberia, and this is not easy without Moscow’s nuclear bombing.