Discussion in the US about sending a disabled green beret to Afghanistan

In the United States, a scandal erupted and a discussion arose in connection with the publication of photographs from one of the military bases in Afghanistan. The photo, some of which were made back in 2015, depicts a fighter of the special forces of the US Army (the so-called "Green Berets"). The soldier has no leg, instead of it - a prosthesis.

The name of the serviceman is called. This is commandos Nicholas Lavery. He had previously been sent to Afghanistan. In 2013, he lost a limb. According to some reports, Lavery blew up a mine.

For several years, the American "green beret" was recovering, and after receiving a technologically advanced prosthesis and undergoing a rehabilitation course, he wrote a report asking him to re-include him in special forces and send him to Afghanistan.

The faces of military personnel in the photo retouched by representatives of the Green Berets unit

American human rights organizations were trying to find out on what basis the disabled person was decided to be sent again on a business trip to Afghanistan. The people who sent Nicholas Lavery to the “hot spot” were suspected of violating American law and intended to bring to justice.

Meanwhile, opponents of the idea of ​​holding the command accountable noted that Lavery "himself declared that a new Afghan business trip would be the best psychological rehabilitation for him."

According to recent reports, Lavery continues his military service as an instructor for US special forces at Fort Bragg - the main base of special forces of the US Army.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Why is there no reason for the American media to create a whole series about a one-legged hero, or rather, a loner, without a second leg in stock? ??

[Spartanez300]

At least someone in the American army with eggs, and not in blue pajamas.

[Cut Samshitov]

Where did human rights activists look ??

[Tashkent citizen]

The persons who sent Nicholas Lavery to the "hot spot" were suspected of violating US law and intended to prosecute.

These human rights defenders will not hold anyone accountable.
This Nicholas signed so many papers that even if theoretically the Martians drop the piano on his head, he will not receive any compensation from the state. For he himself wanted this.
The nose of the other side ... Well done guy! A worthy deed.
Than to indulge in memories at home and morally decompose, it is better to return to the army, everything will be more useful to him.

[Igoresha]

In my Soviet childhood, there were rumors that such a villager voluntarily subscribed to the military enlistment office that the army was not responsible for his life and served in special forces and participated in fights without rules with the Vietnamese at Kamran base

[Spartanez300]

For reference :
Kutuzov during the service was three times wounded in the head. Twice he got a Turkish bullet and a third time - a fragment of the French core. At the same time, even according to the rules and possibilities of modern medicine, bullet wounds can safely be classified as hopelessly deadly. And after all, all the same, several factors developed at once - the trajectory of the bullet, the excellent health of the young officer and the presence of the nearby French military surgeon Jean Massot, who successfully developed new methods of neurosurgery. By the way, modern researchers have not come to a consensus about these bullet wounds - the fact that receiving them twice was too unbelievable was able to survive.
The first time Kutuzov got a bullet when breaking into the Turkish trenches (near Alushta). Moreover, the shooter shot from the parapet, from above. A bullet fell between the right temple and the eye, leaving the left temple. At the same time, part of the optic nerve and muscles were damaged, but the eye and brain (!) Were apparently not affected.
The second time, when repelling the sortie of the Turkish garrison (14 years after the first injury) during the siege of Ochakov, a Turkish bullet again hits Kutuzov's head. Surprisingly - again in the right temple and her path almost repeated all the damage of the previous wound! The Austrian prince Charles de Lin, who was at the time at the Russian headquarters, wrote: "This general received a bullet in the head yesterday. Again." And then he drew amazing conclusions, which have now become a textbook quotation: "One must think that Providence keeps this person for something extraordinary, because he was healed of two wounds, each of which is fatal."
In battles with Bonaparte, Kutuzov was again wounded in the head. Although this time, a fragment of the nucleus hit the cheek and did not cause serious damage.

[Zeev Zeev]

Admiral Nelson?

[Cut Samshitov]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Admiral Nelson?

Ben Gur

[Zeev Zeev]

Who is this? I know Josef Trumpeldor, he lost his hand in Port Arthur, but continued to fight, Nelson I know, he lost his hand in Tenerife, and then almost lost his eye in Corsica, but continued to command the fleet of His Majesty, Karl Brashire, the first black diver in the American Navy who lost a leg ... Ben Gora don't know

[Cut Samshitov]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Who is this? I know Josef Trumpeldor, he lost his hand in Port Arthur, but continued to fight, Nelson I know, he lost his hand in Tenerife, and then almost lost his eye in Corsica, but continued to command the fleet of His Majesty, Karl Brashire, the first black diver in the American Navy who lost a leg ... Ben Gora don't know

I am delighted with such a deep knowledge, but on Thursdays I do not feed the trolls.

[Zeev Zeev]

So who in the picture is that?

[VeteranVSSSR]

Really Maresyev?

[Zeev Zeev]

I still saw Alexei Petrovich Maresyev on TV. On Soviet TV.

[VeteranVSSSR]

The same way ...

[Zeev Zeev]

And what is this pretzel in the picture? By clothes like the 18th-beginning of the 19th century.

[Glory1974]

At least someone in the American army with eggs, and not in blue pajamas.

And they tell us that they don’t fight without Coca-Cola and toilet paper. But it turns out that our sworn friends have a spirit no worse than ours.

[Civil]

1. Or maybe it’s right, with which he will feel inferior, again into battle. Like Meresyev.
2. Why do people with disabilities immediately write off and are not allowed to public positions?
I have been dealing with the problems of people with disabilities for many years, most of them, especially those who have been disabled since childhood, lie at home and drink on their retirement. It is very difficult to find a job, few employers agree. Because with pre-pensioners - you can’t immediately dismiss responsibility. And nobody canceled the stupid spite of society.

[210ox]

And what about pre-retirees? Interfere with the employment of people with disabilities? I just didn't understand you. And about this "beret" .. Actually, the man is great.

[Glory1974]

Why do people with disabilities immediately write off and are not admitted to government posts?

officers of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, who were injured in battles and became disabled, but decided to continue their service, did not quit with the permission of the commander in chief, but continued to serve and carry out combat missions.
He studied at the academy with one of these guys. He was without a leg (torn foot).

It is very difficult to find a job, few employers agree

In St. Petersburg in every company, according to the decision of the city government, people with disabilities should be employed. Our company employs disabled people of the 2 group (working group) and the 3 group.

It may be different with childhood invalids, but in my opinion - you can work, work.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Thrifty

create an entire series about the one-legged hero,

You are late with the idea! How can you forget John Silver? Well, the series is not a series, but based on "Treasure Island" so much "film material" has been produced that any series can be scored many times!

[Viking pvf]

And why, so not respectful. It doesn't matter who he is, the main thing is that a real man and a warrior ...

[Ural-4320]

When I saw such prostheses in the movie "Battleship", I thought Hollywood, but it turns out it's true. Developers have a lot to be proud of.

[Aerodrome]

what to say. guy in spirit is strong. opponent sometimes deserves respect.

[Warrior2015]

Quote: Aerodrome

what to say. guy in spirit is strong. opponent sometimes deserves respect

And if you think a little more and understand that the United States is not an enemy of Russia, they do not have the doctrine of occupation or destruction of our country? but for those with whom the US army is fighting in Afghanistan (that of the Taliban, that of the Ishilovites *) - there is such a doctrine and they are just our main and direct enemies!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Warrior2015

that the US is not an enemy of Russia,

Well, of course, a friend. And therefore, in a friendly way, they kindle a fire on our borders, declare sanctions for the murdered Skripal cat, put in prison a girl who is in love with them, only because her last name is aurally consonant with the name of our president ... Friends ... with such enemies friends Do not need!

[Warrior2015]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And therefore, in a friendly way kindle a fire on our borders

Did the sources confirm this to you right in Washington? Or can you not understand the difference between the usual geopolitical "graters" for influence and an open direct enemy under the green banner, the BASIC doctrine of which is the direct destruction of "kufr", the embodiment of which Russia is for them?

[Evil echo]

. open direct enemy

They become stinky, they may not like the answer, it's easier to send the "fed" ones to slaughter.

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Warrior2015

Quote: Mountain Shooter

And therefore, in a friendly way kindle a fire on our borders

Did the sources confirm this to you right in Washington? Or can you not understand the difference between the usual geopolitical "graters" for influence and an open direct enemy under the green banner, the BASIC doctrine of which is the direct destruction of "kufr", the embodiment of which Russia is for them?

The sources of these ordinary geopolitical graters are enemies. Or do you, for someone to become an enemy, it is imperative that he openly stated this in the media? And if we drop a nuclear bomb on Warsaw and declare in the media that we are friends, then what are all the rules?

[Hagalaz]

Yeah. A short list. But if you continue ......
I regard the US STATE precisely as an enemy of Russia.

[carstorm 11]

exactly the enemy. for this doctrine is not needed. I doubt that in general they exist in which it is written about occupation and destruction. all these are verbal subtleties. I remind you that not even a week goes by from where the comments of high-ranking officials that we threaten them there again and again have to put us in our place.

[Charik]

Americans fight in Afghanistan for poppy plantations and control drug trafficking

[Lexus]

Yes, a full-fledged rehabilitation of a soldier injured as a result of hostilities. What can you say here? Well done! They returned the soldier to the ranks. I met with the Hero of Russia, for whom a solid prosthesis was acquired with the assistance of the governor. And how many of those to whom "mercy" did not descend?

[kit88]

What's the problem? It’s not the first such case. And at the helm people without legs sat down and fought.
Or human rights defenders, they are human rights defenders in Africa - just to ruin the air.

[Jack O'Neill]

American human rights organizations were trying to find out on what basis the disabled person was decided to be sent again on a business trip to Afghanistan. The persons who sent Nicholas Lavery to the "hot spot" were suspected of violating US law and intended to prosecute.

For several years the American "green beret" was recovering, and after receiving a technological process and undergoing a rehabilitation course wrote a report asking him to be included in special forces again and sent to Afghanistan.

The loss of a limb is not a loss of combat readiness, especially since, as we see, it was returned far from reserve. And this means that he proved that he can perform functions on a par with others.
The decision will return - him! What is the problem?
A man respect, after a serious injury recovered and returned to service. Not everyone can do this, first of all, psychologically.

[Jerk]

Another bend. Of course, well done man, that he didn’t break, but the fact is a fact - a disabled person is not able to keep physical exercises at the same level as a disabled person. Is there really nothing for him to do except the MTR in the army?

[Avior]

He does not need, he is an instructor, he transfers experience.

[Jerk]

Judging by the number of tattoos - he sucks with experience. MTR employees are generally prohibited from marking the body.

[Avior]

and you look at the right hand of the far left in the picture ....

[Evil echo]

It remains to ask the question - and to whom does he transfer the experience there and which one?

[Avis-bis]

Quote: Jerk

disabled person is not able to keep physical activity at the same level as non disabled person. Is there really nothing for him to do except the MTR in the army?

In any army there is a bunch of staff work and other duties that do not require what you have listed: to fight and "keep the load".

US Army Special Forces (US Army Special Forces) US Army Special Forces; also commonly known as Green Berets "Green Berets" - units of the US Army, designed to conduct partisan warfare and organize special operations (counter-partisan, sabotage, counter-terrorism and so on).

on the one hand, they carry out combat missions and special operations other than war outside the United States, including the overthrow of disagreeable US governments in third countries; on the other hand, the training of foreign troops and members of the national liberation movements of countries with pro-Soviet ruling regimes during the Cold War.
Other tasks carried out by the army special forces include the direct conduct of hostilities, special intelligence, the fight against terrorism, search and rescue operations, participation in peacekeeping and humanitarian operations, mine clearance, and the fight against drug trafficking.

You can show Papuan how to squeeze the capsule (conditionally) with a prosthetic leg. The same applies to planning operations, sitting at headquarters. Well and so on.

[Zeev Zeev]

I personally saw the company commander in the "Egoz" special unit, who, without an arm (which he lost in childhood), was not only conscripted, but surrounded on the obstacle course and surrounded many of his soldiers as standing.
Yes, and we had an officer who lost three toes, but ran like a horse.

[Amin_vivec]

He is an INSTRUCTOR - his task is not advanced, no one sends him into battle. But he can tell and show young people a lot of things, and about mine business in particular, too.

[Avior]

Strange article.
Maresyev, too, did not want to let go of the helm, and other pilots too.
If he meets the requirements for the post, then why not serve?
That's what is interesting - he clearly as a veteran and disabled person should receive some kind of allowance.
Is it given along with the salary, or only the salary, since it is operational?

[Retvizan 8]

... "wrote a report with a request to re-include him in the special forces" ...
Continues to seek adventure at its fifth point ...

[Avior]

if I hadn’t been looking, I wouldn’t go to berets initially

[Lord of the Sith]

It will be safe to sit at the base, the youth will be trained.
There is nothing extraordinary here, maybe a person knows his job, it's better than sitting in retirement, being out of order.
The military will understand)

[7,62x54]

Gradually, other parts of the body will be replaced by this occupier, and then it is possible to synchronize the dog or horse with the robot. They will rattle in the Afghan desert until their heads are torn off.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

The man found the strength to continue military service, and it is good that he was able to cross this barrier. It’s good that the doctors allowed and didn’t commit (how a person can be understood). What is the point now, to inflate an elephant out of a fly, if it already serves it, now what, to lie on the sofa all day, like a mummy or something. Or is this another occasion from the Democrats to again attract Don (Republicans).

[Zhan]

Well, this specialist just wants to shake hands for courage and long life. And human rights activists, let them stand aside and do not climb into the soul of a person of war, because there is a complete darkness for them.

[Setavr]

Ours are no longer remembered. Swan Anatoly Vyacheslavovich.

On January 9, 2005 (already on the prosthesis) of the year he personally killed three militants in an unequal battle and thereby saved his wounded comrades. In a subsequent battle on January 24, he covered his wounded soldier with his own body from a grenade launcher shot. Having received a minor shrapnel wound in the lower back, he continued to command the head watch. As a result of that battle, the militant base was captured and the coherent Shamil Basayev was destroyed.

[rocket757]

Yes, forget YOUR HEROES ... it always ends badly!
People become a soulless herd .... so easier to manage!

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Setavr

Ours are no longer remembered. Swan Anatoly Vyacheslavovich.

On January 9, 2005 (already on the prosthesis) of the year he personally killed three militants in an unequal battle and thereby saved his wounded comrades. In a subsequent battle on January 24, he covered his wounded soldier with his own body from a grenade launcher shot. Having received a minor shrapnel wound in the lower back, he continued to command the head watch. As a result of that battle, the militant base was captured and the coherent Shamil Basayev was destroyed.

About such people and you need to write and show more often on TV. To know our Heroes by sight.

[Charik]

and why should they (TV) do this, they chant all sorts of nonsense, they will gather a crowd of 'specialists' and brainwash from morning to evening, those who watch

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

To prevent this, it is better to show Heroes then, more will be from this.

[Charik]

Yes, and who will show the 1st or 24th or newcomers, they like to fight about Ukraine, but how bad everything is behind the hill and the same invited Ukrainians with foreigners are peeped out of the state treasury and then the advertisement is turned on -help sms

[VeteranVSSSR]

Guardsman made in the USSR.
Three Red Stars is not a pound of raisins for you ...

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Worthy rewards, yes there is one. And in the USSR the army was worthy or you will deny it, as always.

[rocket757]

Meanwhile, opponents of the idea of ​​holding the command accountable noted that Lavery "himself declared that a new Afghan business trip would be the best psychological rehabilitation for him."

But it's easy to believe! Moreover, no one canceled the monetary interest.

[alexmach]

Want to become a Steel Rat (s)

[Zeev Zeev]

And why the hell are these "human rights activists" going where they are not asked? As if this is the first disabled person who found the strength to return to a full life. As if in the world (and in the USA itself) there were no other fighters who, after severe injuries, decided to return to service.

[dmmyak40]

Quote: Warrior2015

Quote: Aerodrome

what to say. guy in spirit is strong. opponent sometimes deserves respect

And if you think a little more and understand that the United States is not an enemy of Russia, they do not have the doctrine of occupation or destruction of our country? but for those with whom the US army is fighting in Afghanistan (that of the Taliban, that of the Ishilovites *) - there is such a doctrine and they are just our main and direct enemies!

And if you think a little more and read American documents and statements of politicians, it will become clear the following: Russia and China are officially declared enemies of the United States. And they are getting ready to fight with us. And they are practicing the B-52 attacks in Kaliningrad and the Crimea. How often do our strategists practice striking Florida and DC Columbia?
And after that you write your ed. You are better off on Ukrainian sites.

[Ilya Brusnitsyn]

Almost like Captain Hook.

[Mavrikiy]

Yes, and we have worse, or rather were. Starting from Maresyev, and no one remembered the Hero of Russia commandos Anatoly Lebed. He also lost a foot in a mine and returned to duty. The video on VO has already been deleted, LOW, who did not have time, he was late.

IN 02.05.2018/XNUMX/XNUMX, He went the hard way of five wars, and in all came out victorious. He fought with enemies in Afghanistan, in Chechnya, in Georgia.

Already remembered above while writing, thanks.

[Charik]

It seems to be about an American soldier with a disability who returned to the army after a mine explosion, is he a hero? And people like Lebed just don’t crash on motorcycles and we don’t have such cases with heroes.

[Nestorych]

The end of the Third Reich ...
“Draftee, why so thin and so heavy ?!”
“Ger officer, I have a stainless steel prosthesis.”

In general, the boy, like many of us who fought after mutilations!

[FRoman1984]

Such people, regardless of the flag, are respected, as are their commanders, who did not write off the person as a citizen, but left them in the service, moreover, in the asset itself.