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Anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution

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Today is November 7, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. It is under this name that millions of people from Brest to Kamchatka, from Alma-Ata to Yakutsk, from Baku to Chisinau knew and know this day. The day that once shared history countries on the "before" and "after".


Anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution


In 1995, the historical date was gradually etched out of people's minds. Initially, by President Boris Yeltsin, November 7 was proclaimed the Day of the Liberation of Moscow from Polish Invaders by the militia of the year 1612. Then they decided to postpone this holiday as well, so that it would not be “associated” with the events of the year 1917. In 1996, the same Boris Yeltsin decided to rename November 7 on the Day of Accord and Reconciliation. Now, as you know, on November 7 in our country officially celebrate the anniversary of the military parade on Red Square 1941 of the year.

Of course, the October Revolution of the 1917 of the year is a most difficult event in terms of historical assessments. However, many are still trying to associate it with the disappearance of a great empire. Around this interpretation revolves and the attitude to the date for many citizens. But at the time of the revolution the Bolsheviks no longer had any empire, chaos reigned in the country, the country continued a senseless war, continued to suffer huge losses.

The very fact that the Bolsheviks committed the revolution can be treated differently. But there is one fact that is undeniable: how many people from (without any pathos) ordinary people, the 1917 year gave a real ticket to life, how many talented people from families not endowed with power and finance, the revolution ultimately made outstanding scientists , designers, doctors, military leaders!

The destroyed country was able not only to restore its territories, but also to turn into a mighty power with developed science, industry, technology, up to nuclear and space. The red banner has become a symbol of readiness for self-sacrifice, labor for the good of the Fatherland, unity of peoples, colossal fortitude.

Yes, the revolutionaries, of course, had mistakes and excesses, but today it is extremely important to take out all the positive things that 102 brought famous events with years ago, it is important to learn the lessons and draw conclusions, without which it is difficult to understand the very scale of what happened over the years post-revolutionary history.
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 7 November 2019 07: 15 New
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    Today is November 7th, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution.
    Happy Holiday, not fictitious!
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 7 November 2019 07: 17 New
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      good “To each according to his needs, from each according to his work”
      1. Spartanez300
        Spartanez300 7 November 2019 07: 27 New
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        With the Feast of all for whom this day is not an empty phrase!
        I remember smart streets and cheerful demonstrations that day.

        1. APIS
          APIS 7 November 2019 07: 54 New
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          Happy holiday comrades !!!
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 7 November 2019 08: 56 New
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            All ---- happy holiday !!!
            7 Nov

            I read about the city of Petrograd
            In the seventeenth year:
            "" A sailor was running; the soldier was running;
            Shooting on the go.

            Dragged a working machine gun;
            The sirens sounded howling.
            The poster hung: Down with the gentlemen!
            Down with the landlords! ""

            The temporary ruler fled;
            I wanted to pass Russia.
            For foreign capital
            I wanted to sell it.

            But the common people were faithful
            Country of my own:
            He managed to defeat the gentlemen
            In Russia, only one!

            But who reigns with us again ---
            Bourgeois rich!
            Law and power are for them alone,
            And luckily the keys!

            Due to his story
            Back we again
            And support such people
            What will rebel

            Who will make Russia again
            An example of the whole earth,
            Socialism and Peace --- The World
            Distribute away !!!

            Here comes the seventeenth year,
            And the answer became clear to everyone:
            The USSR --- our right path!
            There is no other alternative !!!
            This is my poem published here 2 years ago.
            1. Mcar
              Mcar 7 November 2019 09: 46 New
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              Quote: Reptiloid
              This is my poem published here 2 years ago.

              Good redistribution, relevant! hi

              I remember this poem, not yours, Dmitry, of course, but Mikhalkov, read at a matinee in kindergarten. I was about 5 years old. Oh, and it was hard to learn, I’ll say ... But I still forgot a little from the excitement - the teacher prompted me from behind.

              Happy Great October!
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 7 November 2019 09: 53 New
                +9
                Once again with the holiday of November 7!
                My poem ---- not redistribution laughing , Alexander! This, say, is inspired by that poem, the atmosphere of the holiday of November 7, which I found in my childhood!
                Impressed by those red banners.
                In general, I have other verses about November 7th.
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 7 November 2019 11: 37 New
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                  WITH GREAT COMRADE HOLIDAY! HOORAY! HOORAY! HOORAY!

                  Union of the indestructible republics free
                  Rallied forever Great Russia
                  Long live the people's will
                  A single, mighty Soviet Union!

                  Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
                  Friendship of peoples reliable stronghold!
                  Party of Lenin - the power of the people
                  It leads us to the triumph of communism!

                  Through the storms, the sun of freedom shone,
                  And Lenin gave us a great path:
                  On a just cause, he raised the nations,
                  We were inspired by work and deeds!

                  Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
                  Friendship of peoples reliable stronghold!
                  Party of Lenin - the power of the people
                  It leads us to the triumph of communism!

                  In the victory of the immortal ideas of communism
                  We see the future of our country,
                  And the red flag of the glorious homeland
                  We will always be selflessly faithful!

                  Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
                  Friendship of peoples reliable stronghold!
                  Party of Lenin - the power of the people
                  It leads us to the triumph of communism!

            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 7 November 2019 09: 46 New
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              Comrades, Friends, Companions! Congratulations to all on the occasion of the Great October Socialist Revolution !!!
              Only Socialism gives a person the possibility of comprehensive development, freedom and social justice.
              I believe that the people will come out of the present Morocco and we will return Socialism to the vastness of our long-suffering Motherland!
              Down with capitalism and the capitalists. Long live the Socialist Revolution !!!
              1. RUSS
                RUSS 7 November 2019 10: 22 New
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                Quote: Stroporez
                Down with capitalism and the capitalists. Long live the Socialist Revolution !!!

                Sling cutter, as I understand it, on your avatar is a boy kibalchish?
                And you stand up for the red ideology, but here I wanted to tell you about the actors who played in the film "The Tale of the Kibalchish Boy" for reference, and so - as the irony of fate says, the actor Sergei Ostapenko, who played the role of Kibalchish, now lives in Florida, in the suburbs Tampa city. Teaches at the University of South Florida. President of Ultrasonic Technologies, Inc.
                Something like that....
                1. KERMET
                  KERMET 7 November 2019 10: 43 New
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                  And what from this? on the avatar, he has a hero himself, and not an actor who played someone there, today an actor can play a hero, tomorrow a negative character - actors of the transformation master
                  1. Alexander Suvorov
                    Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 11: 32 New
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                    KERMET (Alexander)
                    And what from this? on the avatar, he has a hero himself, and not an actor who played someone there, today an actor can play a hero, tomorrow a negative character - actors of the transformation master
                    And this is the way that Khrustobuchnikov has such a way, when in essence they have nothing to say even in this way, but they throw manure on a fan. We must at least somehow spoil the holiday for people, so they try. I look at this topic in the middle of the bakery baker, they’re stuck, they’re afraid to see!
                    1. RUSS
                      RUSS 7 November 2019 12: 10 New
                      -4
                      Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                      And it’s the way the Khrustobuchnikov

                      I do not consider myself a monarchist, so alas, here you are.
                      1. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 12: 20 New
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                        Maybe you don’t take it, but you defend it strenuously, not forgetting to pour mud on everything Soviet. So to me to a light bulb to whom you refer yourself there. For me, any anti-Soviet, it is always Russophobe and, accordingly, an enemy of the people.
                      2. RUSS
                        RUSS 7 November 2019 12: 46 New
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                        Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                        For me, any anti-Soviet, it is always Russophobe and, accordingly, an enemy of the people.

                        Quince
                      3. Alexander Suvorov
                        Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 12: 52 New
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                        RUSS (Maxim)
                        Quince
                        Of course! And not only a padded jacket, but also a scoop! AND Proud of it!
                2. RUSS
                  RUSS 7 November 2019 12: 15 New
                  -11
                  Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                  Spoil the holiday, so they try

                  I don’t care, believe me.
                  Celebrate whatever your heart desires.
        2. TANKISTONE
          TANKISTONE 7 November 2019 14: 21 New
          +1
          Fine! I like it! smile
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 7 November 2019 07: 58 New
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      Happy holiday to all! Friends! This is our real holiday (and not some ersatz on November 4).

      This is a significant date for all of humanity. Indeed, on this day, socialism defeated capitalism. Let locally, but from that moment on, socialism ceased to be a utopia, as they used to call it. On the contrary, it became a guide for all the advanced people on earth. Which is now.

      The level of education is growing across the planet. And with him is the realization that a miserable bunch cannot have everything, and the rest a little from nothing. Just the other day, there was an article on VO how the attractiveness of socialism is growing in the eyes of Americans. And this is not surprising! Time will pass, and I really would not want our country to enter the socialist camp again, but already among the latter. After all, humanity simply does not have an alternative to socialism to become a step higher.
      1. Zhan
        Zhan 7 November 2019 08: 07 New
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        Quote: Stas157
        Happy holiday to all! Friends! This is our real holiday (and not some ersatz on November 4).

        This is a significant date for all of humanity. Indeed, on this day, socialism defeated capitalism. Let locally, but from that moment on, socialism ceased to be a utopia, as they used to call it. On the contrary, it became a guide for all the advanced people on earth. Which is now.

        The level of education is growing across the planet. And with him is the realization that a miserable bunch cannot have everything, and the rest a little from nothing. Just the other day, there was an article on VO how the attractiveness of socialism is growing in the eyes of Americans. And this is not surprising! Time will pass, and I really would not want our country to enter the socialist camp again, but already among the latter. After all, humanity simply does not have an alternative to socialism to become a step higher.

        hi
        My dear comrades! Happy holiday to all!
      2. lisiy prapor
        lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 08: 19 New
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        Well, I don't even know. I, of course, would like to live as in the late 70s and early 80s (relative to the global standard at that time), but "happiness for everyone (7 billion for a second, yes" we "will shrink into some area) for nothing "- indeed" utopia ". And ugly for "US" (RF).
      3. sharp-lad
        sharp-lad 7 November 2019 21: 18 New
        +1
        Just the other day, there was an article on VO how the attractiveness of socialism is growing in the eyes of Americans.
        That's just the concept of socialism among most Americans ... How to formulate it without a mat ... Very bourgeois. smile hi
        Happy Holidays!
    3. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 09: 15 New
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      Spartanez300 (Victor)
      With the Feast of all for whom this day is not an empty phrase!
      I remember smart streets and cheerful demonstrations that day.
      Last May 9th, I finally found a big USSR flag on sale. Today it will not work with him, but on May 1 and 9 I will surely bring the children under this flag!
      All a Happy Holiday!
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 7 November 2019 12: 44 New
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        Last May 9th, I finally found a big USSR flag on sale.

        FLAG OF THE GREAT COUNTRY! THE TIME WILL COME, AND ABOVE THE SYMBOL OF THE GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION BY THE CRUISER "AURORA" WILL WAVE THE BANNER OF THE SOVIET UNION RISE FROM THE ASHES!

        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 7 November 2019 21: 39 New
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          Quote: lexus
          THE BANNERS OF RISING FROM ASH WILL BE FLAGING

          1. Your caps lock is stuck.
          2. Having removed the head through the hair, do not cry. yes
          3. Do not torment your heart with future trouble
          Do not overtake the bitterness of the past
          And don't build in the sand, live today
          Or life was wasted by you

          Omar Khayyam
    4. WIKI
      WIKI 7 November 2019 10: 04 New
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      We may have lived hard, but society was much fairer than today. I cannot but agree with the opinion of a billionaire man: "The reason that capitalism and the global economy in general no longer work in the interests of most people is the unprecedented availability of money for the rich. Money has become almost free for those who already have it. and they are almost inaccessible to everyone else. This leads to the growth of large fortunes and the gap between rich and poor. "
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 7 November 2019 15: 59 New
        +2
        This leads to the growth of large fortunes and the gap between rich and poor.

        This is not noticeable with us. Ten minutes away from my home is the richest Toorak district in Melbourne for millionaires. Their houses are just a little larger and look a bit richer than the houses of workers.
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 7 November 2019 20: 05 New
          -1
          From the fact that Zuckerberg has been repeatedly noticed in such cars as the Volkswagen Golf 6 GTI, Acura TSX and even the Honda Fit hatchback that is quite budgetary by American standards, he does not cease to be a billionaire.
    5. syndicalist
      syndicalist 7 November 2019 10: 39 New
      -1
      If we talk about a specific date, it would be more appropriate to have a collage of Lenin with Trotsky, and not with Stalin.
      1. Pavel57
        Pavel57 8 November 2019 14: 49 New
        0
        Stalin and Dzerzhinsky were behind the scenes. But their role in organizing the coup was very serious.
        1. syndicalist
          syndicalist 9 November 2019 09: 30 New
          0
          Apparently very far behind the scenes. I got a whole library of political literature from my father-in-law. Including a lot of memoirs. Not one of the direct participants in the events mentions Stalin. On hearing completely different names. Unless, of course, take seriously the mythology invented by Stalin's "historians".
    6. Alien From
      Alien From 7 November 2019 11: 01 New
      +9
      I can’t just watch the parade on this day, my heart aches! All the holiday comrades !!!!!!
      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 12: 34 New
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        Alien From (Alien From)
        I can’t just watch the parade on this day, my heart aches! All the holiday comrades !!!!!!
        Well, yes, the Parade in honor of the Parade is funny, and in honor of what that Parade was powerful, we are trying hard to wash, gloss, whiten (or rather blacken) and quickly forget as the worst nightmare. They do the same thing when they shamefully drape the Mausoleum on May 9, forgetting that it was at its foot that the banners of the defeated Third Reich were shamefully dropped.

        They are apparently trying to "reconcile" me with Chubais, Gref, Abramovich and others like them ... laughing lol wassat
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 7 November 2019 21: 23 New
          +2
          forgetting what it was to his foot were shamefully the banners of the defeated Third Reich are dropped.
          With shame, with contempt. So it will be more correct, in my opinion. hi
    7. bya965
      bya965 8 November 2019 05: 35 New
      +1
      How relevant!
  2. kjhg
    kjhg 7 November 2019 08: 07 New
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    This day, the oligarchs, billionaires, ministers and the president are reminded that it will not be possible to rob, humiliate and deceive the people endlessly. Sooner or later, the day will come when a new Pugachev or Lenin will appear and head the discontented masses of the deceived and oppressed people in the struggle against its enemies and robbers. Do not despair, even in our lifetime we will witness a new flowering of justice and friendship.
    Congratulations to all on a truly national holiday!
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 7 November 2019 13: 00 New
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      Sooner or later, the day will come when a new Pugachev or Lenin will appear and head the discontented masses of the deceived and oppressed people in the struggle against its enemies and robbers.

      Both old and young will stand up to fight against the enslavers.

      Our cause is just. The enemy will be defeated. Victory will be ours!
      V.M. Molotov, June 22, 1941
  3. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 7 November 2019 08: 09 New
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    Quote: dirk182
    good “To each according to his needs, from each according to his work”

    stop Do not pervert!
    From each according to his ability, to each according to his work!
    yes
    1. dirk182
      dirk182 7 November 2019 08: 15 New
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      excuse me, please repeat However, happy holiday !!!
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  • Civil
    Civil 7 November 2019 07: 30 New
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    So by the beginning of the revolution of 1917 they had in Russia:
    1. 86% of the population are illiterate.
    2. 0,2% of the population are nobles who occupied all public posts.
    3. For 4 years there was a senseless imperialist war.

    The poverty of the people caused a response in the army - the army decomposed.
    The request for justice was granted.
    To the honor of the nobles in 1917, they did not surrender power without a fight, unlike the degraded top of the CPSU in 1991.
    The ideals and goals of the Revolution were later betrayed.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 November 2019 07: 44 New
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      Exactly. And this is the main answer to all "Olgovichs".
      1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 November 2019 07: 57 New
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        Found on the Internet:
        "And in 1917, a sealed carriage arrived in Russia, carrying a limited contingent of Bolsheviks. They saw the surrounding splendor and splendor - and decided to destroy everything, because they were evil and disgusting. They threw out the viruses of hatred into the atmosphere, as a result of which the subjects of the empire began to saw each other on an industrial scale, and for no apparent reason.As a result, the following events occurred, which did not follow from the entire previous history of Russia and had no analogues in it:
        - The Great Russian Empire broke down and fell into the abyss of timelessness.
        - Stalin only personally shot a billion people. And by his order much more was shot.
        - The peasants were driven into collective farms, where they immediately turned into cattle. Prior to this, every peasant in the process of plowing read the Bible, but the fact that he did not know how to read did not bother him.
        - The nobles were killed, the priests were killed, the intelligentsia was driven out. The king - and that was killed, cattle! Moreover, the Jews did this, and the people only looked sadly at the bacchanalia that was taking place because of the barbed wire that the collective farms had been fenced in, and was silent.
        - the Bolsheviks taught the undead part of the people to swear in Russian, dirty copulate and drink vodka.
        For seventy years the Bolsheviks hid from us the truth about Russia, which we had lost. We relaxed, and for almost a hundred years Russia has been exclusively engaged in dying. And only the ROC saves her from final destruction, but she does it badly, because she has to be distracted by the trade in vodka and cigarettes, the fight against teaching Darwin's theory and astronomy in schools. Twenty-eight years ago, the forces of goodness and light defeated the Bolsheviks, banishing them to hell, and today we have the opportunity to join the sacred truth by watching the films "The Barber of Siberia", "Gentlemen Officers" and "Admiral". "
        1. Zhan
          Zhan 7 November 2019 08: 11 New
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          Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Found on the Internet:
          "And in 1917, a sealed carriage arrived in Russia, carrying a limited contingent of Bolsheviks. They saw the surrounding splendor and splendor - and decided to destroy everything, because they were evil and disgusting. They threw out the viruses of hatred into the atmosphere, as a result of which the subjects of the empire began to saw each other on an industrial scale, and for no apparent reason.As a result, the following events occurred, which did not follow from the entire previous history of Russia and had no analogues in it:
          - The Great Russian Empire broke down and fell into the abyss of timelessness.
          - Stalin only personally shot a billion people. And by his order much more was shot.
          - The peasants were driven into collective farms, where they immediately turned into cattle. Prior to this, every peasant in the process of plowing read the Bible, but the fact that he did not know how to read did not bother him.
          - The nobles were killed, the priests were killed, the intelligentsia was driven out. The king - and that was killed, cattle! Moreover, the Jews did this, and the people only looked sadly at the bacchanalia that was taking place because of the barbed wire that the collective farms had been fenced in, and was silent.
          - the Bolsheviks taught the undead part of the people to swear in Russian, dirty copulate and drink vodka.
          For seventy years the Bolsheviks hid from us the truth about Russia, which we had lost. We relaxed, and for almost a hundred years Russia has been exclusively engaged in dying. And only the ROC saves her from final destruction, but she does it badly, because she has to be distracted by the trade in vodka and cigarettes, the fight against teaching Darwin's theory and astronomy in schools. Twenty-eight years ago, the forces of goodness and light defeated the Bolsheviks, banishing them to hell, and today we have the opportunity to join the sacred truth by watching the films "The Barber of Siberia", "Gentlemen Officers" and "Admiral". "

          It looks like an opus of a dropout student ... hi
          1. Lannan Shi
            Lannan Shi 7 November 2019 08: 43 New
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            Quote: Zhan
            It looks like an opus dropout

            Why does it look like? This is the very opus.
            1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
              Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 November 2019 08: 59 New
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              It is rather sarcasm. Here is the description of Russia that we lost in 1917:
              "Russia was a delightful sight. Along the jelly banks of milk rivers, wherever you look, fields stretched in it, full of cheerful, well-fed, smiling and incredibly wise peasants who considered the main happiness of Russian life to work sixteen hours a day and go to God B- gu on the Atonement and Salvation of the Soul at the age of thirty.In the noble estates, the incessant crunch of French rolls and Schubert waltzes reigned, to the accompaniment of which exquisite gentlemen, who knew Schiller by heart, asked ladies so pure and innocent that they did not even know where they had boobs, endow them with unearthly bliss by allowing them to kiss the hand. They did not even think about kissing the lady something else. There was no prostitution, alcoholism, or suicide in Russia. All these sins were practiced only by Jews, gypsies and other foreigners. ”The primordially Russian population, in addition to the above, was engaged only in walks in May evenings along the jelly banks of dairy rivers and disputes to hoarseness, how they can better equip RUSSIA, sometimes switching to French. By the way, they didn't know swear words then either. Except French. "
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 7 November 2019 10: 09 New
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                You forgot to mention Aristarkh Lyudvigovichthat the very young ladies ate exclusively spiritual food --- novels, romances, laughing and then Lieutenant Rzhevsky came and debased everything tongue .......
                And then there came decadence, which only stopped due to what happened on the night of October 25-26 (old style)!
                That's something like that, in my opinion. hi
          2. albert
            albert 7 November 2019 13: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: Zhan
            It looks like an opus of a dropout student.

            No, this is a quote from an article in Lurkomorye.
        2. sunzhenets
          sunzhenets 7 November 2019 08: 56 New
          +9
          Judging by the estimates, not everyone understood your sarcasm.
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 November 2019 09: 06 New
          0
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          Found on the Internet:

          In this garbage can you will not find anything. Well, since Russophobia is fashionable in the world now, there is nothing to be surprised at. Now, if anyone writes about Russia, he should write only a lie and pour mud on it. Here, too, as always, the liberal intelligentsia, the democrats and the scum of the people, are doing the same. But time will pass and the people will again become free and crush this evil.
          1. lisiy prapor
            lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 09: 17 New
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            Found on the Internet:

            In this garbage can you will not find anything. Well, since Russophobia is fashionable in the world now, there is nothing to be surprised at. Now, if anyone writes about Russia, he should write only a lie and pour mud on it. Here, too, as always, the liberal intelligentsia, the democrats and the scum of the people, are doing the same. But time will pass and the people will again become free and crush this evil.

            Explain the salt of the joke?
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 November 2019 09: 52 New
              +5
              Quote: lisiy prapor
              Explain the salt of the joke?

              If before we lived in the country of socialism, now we live in the country of a joke.
        4. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 09: 44 New
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          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          Found on the Internet:

          I also found it.
          "Little is known about the case of Captain 1st Rank Shchastny (3.10.1881 - 1918). It lay in the archives of the KGB without movement for more than 70 years. Because of this, more than one archival document was not published during the Soviet era for obvious reasons, today it is hushed up. on others. The Military Prosecutor's Office of the Baltic Fleet rehabilitated A. Shchastny. But even now, when Aleksey Mikhailovich is fully rehabilitated, we know very little about him, and the history of the country is made up of the fate of its individual citizens. "
          "AM Shchastny was arrested personally by Leon Trotsky in 1918 without any sanctions. The arrest came as a surprise not only to Shchastny himself. As Bonch-Bruevich, the head of the Council of People's Commissars, told the Nashe Slovo correspondent:" The arrest of Shchastny was a complete surprise to the Supreme Military council and the admiralty. ”Instead of a law subject to approval by the All-Russian Central Executive Committee, on June 16, 1918, just on the day the indictment in the Shchastny case was published in the press (which is no coincidence), the People's Commissariat of Justice issued a resolution to abolish all circulars issued so far on revolutionary tribunals. It said that "the revolutionary tribunals in the choice of measures to combat counter-revolution, sabotage and others are not bound by any restrictions" (Code of decrees of the RSFSR, 1918, No. 44, p. 533). "
          Igor Talkov said correctly "But a tyrant who has declared war on the country is betrayed."
          The people mark the date of the seizure of power and the destruction of the elite in Russia by Jews.
          Putin on Russia's first government after the coup
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IliRWCni9aw
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 November 2019 09: 58 New
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            Quote: Vladimir_6
            "AM Shchastny was arrested in 1918 by Leon Trotsky personally without any sanctions.

            First you have to imagine and find out who Trotsky, Sverdlov, Sobelson, Zinoviev and other communist internationalists are. And only then you will understand why the color of the Russian army, science and intellectuals was destroyed.
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 10: 07 New
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              Quote: tihonmarine
              who is Trotsky, Sverdlov, Sobelson, Zinoviev and other communist-internationalists.

              “The military coup of 1917 was staged in Russia by Jews under the leadership of the Zionist mafia.
              The military coup d'etat (October socialist revolution) of 1917 was organized in Russia by Jews with the active funding and leadership of World Zionism. "
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 7 November 2019 11: 09 New
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                Quote: Vladimir_6
                The military coup d'etat (October socialist revolution) of 1917 was organized in Russia by Jews with the active funding and leadership of World Zionism. "

                What are you so! The coup was not as such, just in the ensuing All-Russian chaos, the Bolshevik party simply took power, which was lying around and no one dared to take it. And she did it on time, because in a couple of months Russia would have already been occupied. This is the greatest merit of the Bolsheviks. Modern reality shows this. Well, as always, wherever there is either turmoil, or a revolution or a coup to it as "different crooks are attached to someone else's pie," the most cunning and dodgy part of society has settled down here and, as always, is trying to take the process into its own hands (about which you write), but it was still uprooted,
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 11: 54 New
                  +4
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  The coup was not as such, just in the ensuing All-Russian chaos

                  I agree. But the All-Russian chaos did not arise by itself. It was carefully prepared and funded from outside. During the revolution and civil war, millions of Russian citizens died. Not in the fight against the invaders, but in the internecine war. People were primitively divided into white and red, as in the game "Zarnitsa", and the "red" Russians exterminated the "white" Russians, and vice versa. What kind of holiday is this? This is just a sad date that must not be forgotten.
                  You rightly noticed that the cunning and dodgy part that seized power was cleaned up. Thanks to Comrade Stalin. But he also passed away immediately after he said to the rest of the "cunning and dodgy" - "Moses brought you out of Egypt, and I will take you out of the Politburo."
                  The forum has many comrades. Everyone has their own opinion about the revolution. I agree with those for whom this is not a fun day.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 November 2019 12: 54 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    I agree. But the All-Russian chaos did not arise on its own. He was carefully prepared and financed from the outside.

                    So say thank you for this to Nicholas II and his elite, who allowed the February Revolution of 1917, in which the Bolsheviks did not participate at all. And in vain do you bear the heresy that it was Lenin and the Communists who destroyed the pre-revolutionary grandeur - the Russian Empire was destroyed by tsarism and those who, under it, reached the heights of power and ruled the state. It is from them that we must first of all ask for the Civil War and its consequences, and not from those who, in the conditions of the collapse, took power in their hands in order to somehow restore the country.
                    1. Vladimir_6
                      Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 13: 54 New
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                      Tsarism also destroyed the Russian empire who, under it, reached the heights of power and ruled the state.

                      And who destroyed the USSR? Gorbachev or what? Both the Russian Empire and the USSR were destroyed by the same team with a difference of exactly 72 years.
                      who in the conditions of collapse took power in order to somehow restore the country.

                      The country was restored already under the command of Comrade Stalin. Thanks to him too.
                      And after the 90s, another coup and another looting. Who prevented the CPSU from preventing the collapse of the country? All power was in their hands.
                      The true reasons for the two coups have specific goals and are not discussed here. At the forum, people rejoice at the holiday, severely punish with minuses all who do not agree with the opinion of the majority. It is understandable. There is a phrase in Scripture: "They have ears and do not hear, they have eyes and do not see, they have reason and do not understand." The main holiday.
                    2. Robert
                      Robert 7 November 2019 16: 37 New
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                      Quote: Vladimir_6
                      The true reasons for the two coups have specific goals and are not discussed here. At the forum, people rejoice at the holiday, severely punish with minuses all who do not agree with the opinion of the majority. It is understandable. There is a phrase in Scripture: "They have ears and do not hear, they have eyes and do not see, they have reason and do not understand." The main holiday.

                      These people have not read the scripture, they perceive everything, alas, according to the school curriculum of the times of the USSR. And alas, the society is still split into "red" and "white", which is confirmed by the forum and comments. Our society did not realize and did not survive 1917. And those to whom the USSR is dear, watch the video and think about whether all the good things that were then associated with the revolution are right. And also what period in the history of the USSR do you consider your country, which did not become in 1991
                    3. Vladimir_6
                      Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 18: 28 New
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                      An interesting video. It’s strange that you still haven’t thrown down cons for him.
                  2. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 November 2019 18: 48 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    And who destroyed the USSR? Gorbachev or what?

                    It was Gorbachev and the party nomenclature that surrounded him, but by no means ordinary members of the CPSU.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    Both the Russian Empire and the USSR were destroyed by the same team with a difference of exactly 72 of the year.

                    And there was practically no difference between the Russian Empire and the USSR from the point of view of the management system - the goals were radically different, because in the USSR the main concern of the CPSU was to increase the well-being of all workers.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    The country was restored already under the command of Comrade Stalin. Thanks to him too.

                    This is not in dispute - this is understandable to any literate person.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    Who prevented the CPSU from preventing the collapse of the country? All power was in their hands.

                    The top leadership of the CPSU degenerated over time, and they were no longer effective leaders in the national economy, but were engaged in more political chatter than real work, which ultimately destroyed the USSR. Well, of course, there were strategic mistakes, for example, in the form of madly squandering the country's wealth into various political parties of supposedly friendly countries or international movements.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    At the forum, people rejoice at the holiday, severely punish the minuses of everyone who does not agree with the majority opinion. It is understandable.

                    It really was a holiday, as if someone did not want to get rid of it from the people's memory. What do you disagree with - the fact that people did not fall into unconsciousness, or with the results of the achievements of the Soviet Union?
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    There is a phrase in the Scripture:

                    Not everyone believes in it - many more believe in the moral code of the builder of communism, as more humane principles of human existence.
                  3. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 19: 51 New
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    It was Gorbachev and the party nomenclature that surrounded him

                    Gorbachev "Zitspredsedatel", the entire team of young reformers are the same dummy figures. When the USSR was destroyed, Gorbachev was locked up in Crimea.
                    It really was a holiday, as if someone did not want to get rid of it from the people's memory. What do you disagree with - the fact that people did not fall into unconsciousness, or with the results of the achievements of the Soviet Union?

                    Holiday specifically what? I understand May 9th Holiday. Victory Day over Nazi Germany. And November 7 is not a holiday, but a tragic event. Yes, it must be remembered, but this is not a reason for fun.
                    [quoteNot everyone believes in it - many more believe in the moral code of the builder of communism as more humane principles of human existence. [/ quote]
                    The moral code of the builder of communism was utopian. There is no communism, no code of ethics.
                    For those who do not believe in God, there are ethical standards.
                    1. What is possible.
                    2. What should.
                    3. What is impossible.
                    For more knowledgeable, you can add the principles of five above:
                    The spiritual is higher than the material.
                    General is higher than private.
                    Justice is above the law.
                    Service is above possession.
                    Power is higher than property.
                    But the main crime from the list, which is impossible, is betrayal.
                    Adapted from the “Code of Power” (Great Yasa) of Genghis Khan, when China, Russia and the peoples of the Great Steppe lived in a single state from sea to sea.
                    These are the "principles of human existence;
                  4. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 November 2019 20: 10 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    Gorbachev "Zitspredsedatel", the entire team of young reformers are the same dummy figures. When the USSR was destroyed, Gorbachev was locked up in Crimea.

                    Answer a simple question - how old were you when Gorbachev came to power? I need this in order to understand how adequately you perceive that time.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    And November 7 is not a holiday, but a tragic event. Yes, it must be remembered, but this is not a reason for fun.

                    Tell the French that Bastille Day is not a holiday, and we will decide for ourselves what November 7 means to us.
                    By the way, ask how many Old Believers were destroyed during tsarism, how many were in prison, how many of them fled abroad, and why they ended up even in Latin America. You certainly won’t attract the Bolsheviks to this ...
                  5. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 20: 34 New
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                    You are probably a former member of the CPSU that you so persistently want to convince me of the correctness of the fact that revolution and civil war are good for Russia.
                    Russia (including tsarist) has so many significant victories that France you never dreamed of. Therefore, for me, the capture of the Bastille does not mean anything.
                    I am more delighted with the passage of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov through the Alps.
                    The fate of the Old Believers was not interested. And Orthodox churches turned into stables and blew up the Bolsheviks.
                    On the day Gorbachev came to power, I was 34 years old. So I perceive everything adequately. Which I wish you too.
                  6. ccsr
                    ccsr 7 November 2019 20: 51 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    You are probably a former member of the CPSU,

                    Yes, I am a former member of the CPSU, I have never been ashamed of this, and I am not going to convince you of anything - I just want to understand on the basis of what you draw your conclusions.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    I am more delighted with the passage of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov through the Alps.

                    Do not wag - I asked you how much you know the time of Gorbachev and what you were doing at that time I would like to know. And I admire no less than you the exploits of the ancestors, but not in order to consider tsarism the pinnacle of Russia's development.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    The fate of the Old Believers was not interested.

                    That's all your understanding of our history - this is the best evidence that you know it superficially.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    On the day Gorbachev came to power, I was 34 years old. So I perceive everything adequately. Which I wish you too.

                    It’s even strange that you lived at that time, and you probably saw the collapse of the USSR and the consequences of this collapse, still think that Gorbachev did not have powers approximately the same as the last king on the eve of the February Revolution and could not change the course of history. But this is not even the point, but you personally justify the sacrifices that our people suffered in the nineties and whether they are worth accusing the Communists of all mortal sins. But there were more victims of those years than those who died all the time in the Gulag ....
                  7. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 22: 05 New
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                    Yes, I am a former member of the CPSU, I have never been ashamed of this

                    To be ashamed or not to be ashamed does not depend on which community a person is. It all depends on the way of life and actions. As in the Bible it says: "ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS, RETURN YOU". My dad (born 1905) was also a communist. I have kept his badge for 50 years in the KPSS. But I am proud of him not because he was a member of the CPSU, but because he went through two wars (1929 at the Chinese Eastern Railway, and 1941-1945) and was one of those officers who could say: "I have the honor!" And he raised us in this spirit. At the age of 33, I was offered to join the party. But by that time I had already seen enough of the Komsomol and the Communist Party of the Soviet Union.

                    If you have perfectly studied the theme of the Old Believers, then explain the fundamental difference between the faith of the Old Believers and Orthodoxy.

                    Quote: ccsr
                    It’s even strange that you lived at that time, and you probably saw the collapse of the USSR and the consequences of this collapse, still think that Gorbachev did not have powers approximately the same as the last king on the eve of the February Revolution and could not change the course of history.

                    If Gorbachev tried to "change the course of history," he would not have flown from Crimea to Moscow. As in his time and N.S. Khrushchev.
                    Do not be so naive.
                  8. ccsr
                    ccsr 8 November 2019 10: 44 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    But I am proud of him not because he was a member of the CPSU, but because he went through two wars (1929 at the Chinese Eastern Railway, and 1941-1945) and was one of those officers who could say: "I have the honor!"

                    You don’t have one such father - you won’t surprise me with this, because my father also fought, and his brother and my grandfather on the mother’s side died. Is your father’s biography your merit to the Fatherland?
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    At the age of 33 I was offered to join the party. But by that time I had already seen enough of graffiti from the Komsomol and the Communist Party.

                    I entered voluntarily, and not because I was offered it. By the way, why didn’t you join the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in order to fight against grabbers and clear the party of crooks? Probably it would be more useful to our people if the party consisted only of people like you.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    If you have perfectly studied the theme of the Old Believers, then explain the fundamental difference between the faith of the Old Believers and Orthodoxy.

                    The question is not the difference of views on faith, but that Christians destroyed their own kind not on the basis of property, but on a world outlook. I gave this example to refute your approach to Marxism. And you yourself will find the details if you wish, if you are interested in this fact.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    If Gorbachev tried to "change the course of history," he would not have flown from Crimea to Moscow.

                    It was the finale of the tragedy, and I believe that if this bells and whistle seriously took up the country's economy in 1985, then perhaps there would be no collapse of the country, as well as the State Emergency Committee.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    Do not be so naive.

                    Yes, I’m not particularly naive, but just unlike you, I’m looking at everything not as one-sidedly as you.
                  9. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 8 November 2019 11: 51 New
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                    By the way, why didn’t you join the Communist Party of the Soviet Union in order to fight against grabbers and clear the party of crooks?

                    Well, you belonged to the Communist Party. There were millions of honest communists like you. Were you able to clear the party of crooks? I agree that millions of honest communists worked in the mines, at the machines, in the fields. But the "fish" rots from the head, and therefore the ending of the Land of the Soviets turned out to be sad.
                    .. I gave this example to refute your approach to Marxism. And you yourself will find the details if you wish

                    I just know the details. In the days of the Old Believers, Jesus Christ was the KING OF GLORY.
                    And the Orthodox became Jesus Christ THE KING OF JEWISH. On that and dispersed.
                    And the fact that you write "CHRISTIANS destroyed their own kind.", So read the story. Jews Jews fought with Jews Israelis, Shiite Muslims fight Sunni Muslims. Christians Catholics, Orthodox, Old Believers, Protestants. Everyone thinks they have the right faith. There are people who skillfully use these differences for their own selfish purposes.
                    The main thing is to proclaim the right slogans.
                  10. ccsr
                    ccsr 8 November 2019 12: 34 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    And the fact that you write "CHRISTIANS destroyed their own kind.", So read the story. Jews Jews fought with Jews Israelis, Muslims Shiites are fighting Muslim Sunnis.

                    There is no need to blurt out the question - you understand perfectly well that it was only about our lands and our schism, and not about religious contradictions in general.
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    The main thing is to proclaim the right slogans.

                    So in addition to the slogans, they also killed those who did not agree with them, or drove them out - and this is a completely different approach, in which there is no place for class contradictions, that is, Marxism and the CPSU cannot be drawn to this.
                  11. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 8 November 2019 12: 52 New
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                    Quote: ccsr
                    So in addition to the slogans, they also killed those who did not agree with them, or drove them out - and this is a completely different approach, in which there is no place for class contradictions, that is, Marxism and the CPSU cannot be drawn to this.

                    And the Bolsheviks Leninists sent those who disagree with them to the resort in Solovki. This is at best. And in the worst, immediately to the forefathers.
                    You live in some kind of virtual world.
                    Love the CPSU - write memoirs. Today in Russia, capitalism is what God will know tomorrow.
                    With regard to the original theme "Anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution", for you it is a holiday on blood, for me the tragedy of the Motherland of fathers and grandfathers. Now allow me to take my leave. Our dialogue is a conversation between the deaf and the blind.
                  12. ccsr
                    ccsr 8 November 2019 19: 23 New
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                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    And the Bolsheviks Leninists sent those who disagree with them to the resort in Solovki. This is at best. And in the worst, immediately to the forefathers.
                    You live in some kind of virtual world.

                    So what was tsarism better than the Bolsheviks when it spread rot on the Old Believers?
                    Or did the Old Believers exist in the virtual world?
                    By the way, you have an idea at what cost Peter the Great built the Russian Empire, and how many people perished during his reign - do you regret them?
                    Quote: Vladimir_6
                    As for the original theme "Anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution", for you it is a holiday on blood, for me the tragedy of the Motherland of fathers and grandfathers.

                    Yes, this is indeed the tragedy of our people, which led to tsarism with its failure to rule the empire. But here I will ask you one question - what would happen to the common people if the whites defeated and began to destroy those who opposed their power? I think that much more blood would have been shed after this victory, so we don’t have to think that the White Army wanted to improve the life of the bulk of the people of that time. That is why the bulk of the people followed the Bolsheviks, and you do not want to see this.
                  13. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 8 November 2019 20: 59 New
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                    So what was tsarism better than the Bolsheviks when it spread rot on the Old Believers?

                    You have already mentioned several times not guilty murdered Old Believers. Maybe you yourself are in their brotherhood? Then you can understand the personal heartache.

                    By the way, you have an idea at what cost Peter the Great built the Russian Empire, and how many people perished during his reign - do you regret them?


                    Peter the Great was a severe king, but he did not spare himself either. He dedicated his life to the Russian state.
                    “During the flood, Peter I was one of the first to rush to help the residents of St. Petersburg in distress. His boat appeared now on one or another flooded street of the city.
                    Once, while rescuing dying sailors, the boat turned over. Having caught a cold in ice water, Peter I fell ill and died a few days later.

                    So do not stir up the royal past. You still remember Ivan the Terrible and his guardsmen.

                    But here I will ask you one question - what would happen to the common people if the whites defeated and began to destroy those who opposed their power?


                    All-Russian chaos did not arise by itself. It was carefully prepared and funded from outside. During the revolution and civil war, millions of Russian citizens died. Not in the fight against the invaders, but in the internecine war. People were primitively divided into white and red, as in the game "Zarnitsa", and the "red" Russians exterminated the "white" Russians, and vice versa.


                    Where did I write that I am for "white" or "red"? Russians killed Russians. And this is the tragedy. Millions of people died. Therefore, for me personally, this day is not a HOLIDAY.
                    You can celebrate with songs and dances. Everyone decides for himself.
                  14. Pavel57
                    Pavel57 8 November 2019 22: 35 New
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                    Who is better Ivan the Terrible or Peter I?
                  15. Vladimir_6
                    Vladimir_6 8 November 2019 22: 47 New
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                    Who is better Ivan the Terrible or Peter I?

                    You decide for yourself.
                2. ccsr
                  ccsr 9 November 2019 10: 19 New
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                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  You have already mentioned several times not guilty murdered Old Believers. Maybe you yourself are in their brotherhood? Then you can understand the personal heartache.

                  This is a fact of our history, which many rebukers of the Bolsheviks prefer not to recall. You misinterpreted my pain, because I am not a believer, but I feel sorry for the dead people.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Peter the Great was a severe king, but he did not spare himself either. He dedicated his life to the Russian state.

                  This can be said about Stalin. Only with the leader of all peoples did the country's population grow in such a way that Peter could not even dream of.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  You still remember Ivan the Terrible and his guardsmen.

                  And this is also our story, which happened long before the advent of Marxism - do you need to delete it?
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  The Russians killed the Russians. And this is a tragedy.

                  And I about it. But you don’t have to blame the Bolsheviks for this - the whites are no less responsible for this, or rather, it is precisely those who served in the White Army who are more responsible than others for what happened in the Civil.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Therefore, for me personally this day is not a HOLIDAY.

                  You did not live under the tsar, and did not work for 11-12 hours in the factory in order to somehow feed your family, that’s why you don’t understand why the bulk of the working people supported the Bolsheviks then. And it was they who decided that exemption from the unfair distribution of surplus value is a holiday, so it is not necessary to decide from the height of your present existence whether they arrived at that time or not.
                3. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 9 November 2019 12: 42 New
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                  because I'm not a believer

                  I am sincerely sorry for you. Why then did you come to this World at all? Watch carefully the film "The Master and Margarita". Citizen Berlioz also believed that after cutting off the head, a person's life ends and he turns into ash.
                  By your faith will be given to you. Non-believers do not exist at all. Some believe that there is no God, others believe that there is God.
                  but the dead people feel sorry.

                  For the first time since the split, Putin came to the Old Believers and heard about "true Orthodoxy." So people died, but the church of the Old Believers is still alive. And thank God.
                  And by the way, the expression "glory to the CPSU", the communists tried to take away the Glory from God. But as you can see now - got excited.
                  This can be said about Stalin.

                  But am I against it?
                  Only with the leader of all peoples did the country's population grow in such a way that Peter could not even dream of.

                  Under Peter, the Russian state was only being formed. The leader of all peoples built the USSR on the foundation laid by Tsar Peter the Great. No need to compare soft with warm.
                  Under the tsars, Russia acquired the borders of the Russian Empire. And Kutuzov, Suvorov, Ushakov, Nakhimov won their victories under the kings. They did without the leading role of the Communists.
                  But you don’t have to blame the Bolsheviks for this - the whites are no less responsible for this, or rather, those who served in the White Army

                  Are you addressing me personally? Where did you see in my posts the accusations of "White" or "Red". The massacre was organized by a third party.
                  You did not live with the king,

                  Yes, I did not live with the king. And during the reign of Emperor Nero, I was not there either.
                  supported the Bolsheviks. And it was they who decided that liberation from the unfair distribution of surplus value is a holiday,

                  That’s what I’m looking at, today they are distributing the surplus value fairly.
                  "No money, but you hold on."
                4. ccsr
                  ccsr 9 November 2019 15: 08 New
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                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  I am truly sorry for you. Why did you come to this World at all?

                  At least not to believe in your sermons.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Watch carefully the film "The Master and Margarita". Citizen Berlioz

                  I am not at all enthusiastic about this work, and even more so, since you are such a believer, you should be ashamed to refer to it.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Some believe that there is no God, others believe that there is God.

                  This is pure scholasticism, and for the simplest - ordinary verbiage. Do you think that makes you look smarter?
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  And by the way, the expression "glory to the CPSU", the communists tried to take away the Glory from God. But as you can see now - got excited.

                  Come on, you - the Bolsheviks generally ignored God, so do not fantasize that they wanted to take something from him. In general, they did not need God to redistribute the means of production and wealth of a handful of elite.
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  Under Peter, the Russian state was only being formed. The leader of all peoples built the USSR on the foundation laid by Tsar Peter the Great. No need to compare soft with warm.

                  Well, you don’t like the Bolsheviks so much that you immediately attribute any action to the tragedy. So why not compare that tragedy with the tragedies that existed long before they appeared? Or you do not want to see this point blank, otherwise suddenly seditious thoughts will appear?
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  The slaughter was arranged by a third party.

                  I know this "theory" - it is this "third party" who urinates in our porches, and eats vodka right on the playground. Burn on ...
                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  That’s what I’m looking at, today they are distributing the surplus value fairly.
                  "No money, but you hold on."

                  So we lived under the tsar - so we returned to what people like you dreamed of. I hope you will not deny that the current government serves the interests of the capitalists of Russia - grandfather Lenin warned you about this, but you did not believe him, so cry into someone else's waistcoat, but your "claims" to the oligarchs are ridiculous for me.
                5. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 9 November 2019 19: 00 New
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                  At least not to believe in your sermons.

                  A post above I suggested you finish the dialogue. But you do not give up. What soul no one to pour out?
                  I am not at all enthusiastic about this work, and even more so, since you are such a believer, you should be ashamed to refer to it.

                  The main message of this film is EVIL in this World for fools. The CPSU charter overshadowed your mind, and you were not able to see it.
                  This is pure scholasticism, and for the simplest - ordinary verbiage. Do you think that makes you look smarter?

                  Rude boy. If you want to see a fool - look in the mirror.
                  In general, they did not need God to redistribute the means of production and wealth of a handful of elite.

                  Yes, they needed Sharikov: "Take everything and divide"
                  I hope you will not deny that the current government serves the interests of the Russian capitalists

                  The current government did not come from Mars. She is the "flesh of the flesh" of the CPSU. Only the blind do not see it.
                  so cry into someone else's waistcoat, but for me your "claims" to the oligarchs are ridiculous.
                  . Cry about the cruelty of the tyrants of kings and the ruined lives of the Old Believers.
                  I did not voice claims to the oligarchs. To each in his own life.
                  This is where the debate ends. Write memoirs.
                6. ccsr
                  ccsr 10 November 2019 17: 58 New
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                  Quote: Vladimir_6
                  A post above I suggested you finish the dialogue.

                  I think that it can hardly end, if only because it was not there, because of your inadequate perception of history.
                  It is useless to discuss with you, and so argue with these statistics:
                7. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 10 November 2019 18: 20 New
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                  In order to make the picture more clear, we need to consider the graph of the population of Russia, the USSR and the Russian Federation from Adam and Eve. As a last resort from the date of the Flood.
                  To the theme of the HOLIDAY on November 7, this schedule has nothing to do. You also discard the graph of the number of stray dogs for the period 1800 - 2020
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 7 November 2019 19: 13 New
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    Quote: Vladimir_6
    Both the Russian Empire and the USSR were destroyed by the same team with a difference of exactly 72 of the year.

    Jews, or what? Or are the Americans?
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 22: 16 New
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Vladimir_6
    Both the Russian Empire and the USSR were destroyed by the same team with a difference of exactly 72 of the year.

    Jews, or what? Or are the Americans?

    Not just ordinary Jews, but Kabbalists. But there is no desire to procrastinate this topic.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 7 November 2019 22: 34 New
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    Quote: Vladimir_6
    Kabbalists

    And it is not necessary. Myself to yourself. And then you have the Holy Scripture, the Kabbalists ... laughing
  • Vladimir_6
    Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 22: 48 New
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    Myself to yourself

    And do not forget about yourself
  • evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru
    evgeniy.plotnikov.2019mail.ru 7 November 2019 19: 24 New
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    Nobody, primitively, shared. They shared it. About 70% of the officers followed the people, followed the Reds. Even, with a creak, in the soul, accepting familiarity and other ,, charms ,, of a revolutionary mess. Understood - ,, exploiting classes ,, deserve such an attitude. And what do you want? To rape peasant girls, sell peasants and lose cards ...., force workers to work more than 11 hours a day (official working day in the Republic of Ingushetia at the beginning of the 5th century), child labor and child prostitution, mass hunger, repeating approximately every XNUMX years, although RI fed the whole of Europe, suppressing the speeches of workers and peasants in the Soviet Union, using artillery at the same time .... For this, Russian PEOPLE should have been be exploiting classes?! Keywords (not all) for understanding what is happening during the Civil War - ,, revenge, and ,, hatred ,,. ... There is such a snapshot. Kolchak with his girlfriend, with white officers and intervention officers, sat down in highchairs. Now the Reds will be executed ... It is necessary to let THIS pass through everything. THERE are YOU mentally sending yourself, armed with artifacts. Ask your conscience for advice. Then there will be no doubt whose side to take. Past and present
  • Demon_is_ada
    Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 11: 29 New
    +3
    Even if by Jews - thank them for that laughing It doesn't matter who arranged it, the result is more important for our Motherland ... Yes, and by the way ... in "enlightened" Europe, or rather in "Aryan" France lol where all such suspiciously curly, hunchbacked ones and the tongue there is laryngeal (sarcasm if not CHO) of revolutions blazed up to horror, and much earlier than the first in Russia, even the vests still buzz there ... but what's the point ??? belay So some component is missing for the victory of socialism recourse ... I will tell you a secret, this component is Russian people laughing
    1. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 12: 03 New
      -4
      Quote: Demon_is_ada
      Even if by Jews - thank them for that

      How Stalin returned the gold appropriated by the Bolsheviks and the International Bankers
      https://subscribe.ru/group/otkuda-myi-prishli/9795384/
      Read at your leisure.
      1. Demon_is_ada
        Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 12: 30 New
        +9
        I started reading and FSE crying How do people keep up with all the scribble and don’t think with their brains ... Vladimir, how do you think Ford built factories (amo, fodzon), shipyards, rolling mills for Stalin’s beautiful eyes and Trotsky’s ass ??? belay Well, in general, even then there were sanctions from the "world progressive community" for our state and I can say with absolute certainty that the Bolsheviks dumped heavily during the sale, and the "noble" Americans lifted prices at least twice, this is their essence, they always do this , they drive them into a stalemate and then weld, their business is like that ... This process is described only with a twist of meaning ... How to make you believe? To tell the truth and a little tweak to distort the meaning ...
  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 11: 29 New
    -1
    Black hundred in its role
    1. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 7 November 2019 11: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Amper
      Black hundred in its role

      Are you for the "red" terror?
  • VIT101
    VIT101 7 November 2019 11: 52 New
    +9
    Quote: Vladimir_6
    "Military coup of 1917


    No need to cast a shadow on the wattle fence. The so-called February Revolution of 1917 is a classic military coup. Approximate Nicholas forced him to renounce power. There was no revolution as such.
    The October Revolution, as you write, is a real revolution. This is a well-known and universally recognized fact. And not to acknowledge this is to consciously and intentionally distort historical reality.
  • Alexander Suvorov
    Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 09: 19 New
    10
    210ox (Dmitry) Today, 07: 44
    Exactly. And this is the main answer to all "Olgovichs".
    He is the second day in the history section raging. This topic is not a place for boulder crunches, this is OUR Holiday!
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 7 November 2019 11: 55 New
    -5
    Quote: 210ox
    Exactly. And this is the main answer to all "Olgovichs".

    Olgovich fully agrees with the assessment of BOP given Petersburg WORKERS in March 1918, when it became clear WHAT is a Thief:
    Declaration to the Fourth Extraordinary Congress of Soviets

    We, workers of Petrograd factories and plants, we turn to the All-Russian Congress of Soviets of Workers, Peasants and Soldiers' Deputies with the following statement:

    The new government calls itself Soviet and Worker-Peasant. But in fact, the most important issues of state life are resolved in addition to the Soviets; The CEC-t is not going to, or is going to, to silently endorse the steps without which the autocratic people commissioners autocratically took; Tips that disagree with government policies unceremoniously dispersed by armed force. In fact, any attempt by the workers to express their will in the Soviets through re-election is thwarted, and more than once the Petrograd workers have heard threats from machine guns from representatives of the new government, experienced executions of their assemblies and their manifestations.

    We were promised immediate peace, a democratic peace concluded by peoples through the heads of their governments. But in fact we were given the shameful surrender to the German imperialists.
    We were given a world consolidating the collapse of Russia
    and making it the extraction of foreign capital, a world destroying our industry. We were given a world in which we don’t even know the exact boundaries of our slavery, because the Bolshevik government, shouting so much against secret diplomacy, itself practices the worst sort of diplomatic secret, and already leaving Petrograd, still does not report the full and accurate text of all the conditions of the world, arbitrarily disposing of the fate of the people, state, revolution.

    They promised us bread. But in reality they gave an unprecedented hunger.

    We were given the Civil War, devastating the country and completely ruining its economy. Under the guise of socialism, we were given the final destruction of industry and a breakdown in finances, we were given the theft of the public wealth and accumulated capital by people with an insatiable appetite. We were given the kingdom of bribery and speculation, which took on unheard-of proportions.
    Trade unions destroyed factory committees cannot protect us, the city council has been dispersed, and co-operatives are being hindered.

    We were promised freedom. And what do we see in practice? Where is the freedom of speech, assembly, unions, press, peaceful demonstrations? All trampled by police heels everything is crushed by an armed hand. We reached to the shame of courtless executions, to the bloody horror of the death penalty, committed by people who are both scammers, and provocateurs, and investigators, and prosecutors, and judges, and executioners.


    RGASPI. F. 275. On. 1. D. 42. L. 30-30 vol. 1;
    Nothing to add!
    1. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 7 November 2019 18: 35 New
      +3
      Declaration to the Fourth Extraordinary Congress of Soviets

      Which to the St. Petersburg workers had the same relationship as I, for example.
      It will not bother you to tell where this "appeal" appeared?
      And then it will not be difficult to tell whose print edition it was?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 8 November 2019 11: 44 New
        -1
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Which to the St. Petersburg workers had the same relationship as I, for example.

        Do not write nonsense
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        It will not bother you to tell where this "appeal" appeared?
        And then it will not be difficult to tell whose print edition it was?

        1. At the so-called congress tips appeared, it’s written
        2.Sama herself! (WITH) yes
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 8 November 2019 11: 55 New
          0
          Do not write nonsense

          And I just don’t write
          1. At the so-called congress tips appeared, it’s written

          No
          herself, herself!

          So I just know, I don't need to look. And that's why I understand the "price" of this "appeal"
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 8 November 2019 12: 57 New
            -2
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            And I just don’t write

            You write: WORKERS wrote.
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            No

            Yes
            Quote: Nefarious skeptic
            As I just know, I don't need to look. And that's why I understand the "price" of this "appeal"

            And I know.
            Price-high: showing the attitude of workers to traitors
            1. Foul skeptic
              Foul skeptic 8 November 2019 13: 06 New
              0
              Enough of idle talk. I ask again the answers to two simple questions:
              It will not bother you to tell where this "appeal" appeared?
              And then it will not be difficult to tell whose print edition it was?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 9 November 2019 07: 52 New
                -1
                Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                It will not bother you to tell where this "appeal" appeared?
                And then it will not be difficult to tell whose print edition it was?

                See above, tired already
                1. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 11 November 2019 08: 34 New
                  0
                  There is nothing to look above, there are no answers to my questions - it is itself, it is not such.
                  Since when did gentlemen Bogdanov and Smirnov become St. Petersburg workers?
  • knn54
    knn54 7 November 2019 07: 58 New
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    In world production in 1913, the share of Russia was 1,72%, the United States - 20%, England - 18%, Germany - 9%, France - 7,2%. Moreover, their population was 2-3 times smaller. than in Russia.
    Russian industry (banks, enterprises, railways, mines, oil / gas, etc.) was practically divided between Western countries.
    T, E By 1913, Russia had lost its economic sovereignty. In 1917, the debt of the Republic of Ingushetia amounted to: total - 48 billion, external - 7,2 billion. The prospects are NO.
    But EVERYTHING (from the point of view of the West) was "spoiled" by the Bolsheviks.
    WHICH. Without exaggeration, saved the country from being torn to pieces.
    Happy GREAT, friends.
    And let's not forget that the West did not abandon its desires for the dismemberment and enslavement of ALL republics of the former USSR.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 November 2019 09: 25 New
      +4
      Quote: knn54
      But EVERYTHING (from the point of view of the West) was "spoiled" by the Bolsheviks.

      When all the oil from Russia was pumped out by the Rothschilds and Nobels for free, Russia was a semi-colony. And now the bestial looks are directed at Russia.
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      2. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 10: 01 New
        +7
        Chit Today, 09:25
        And they built the fairest state ...
        Yes, they did!
        Let me ask you, on which political map can I admire it?
        And on what map can you see the Russian Empire, German, Austro-Hungarian, Turkish? Why, there is nothing left of the former British Empire either. So past the gate there is a miscarriage.
        And do not talk about a handful of traitors who ruined the Union.
        No, you are one of them!
        If a great country can be destroyed by a handful of people, such a country is worthless.
        The price of such an ideology is worthless.
        The price of such power is worthless.
        Worthless is such a political system.
        That is precisely what is more relevant to RI, but not to the USSR!
        1. Chit
          Chit 7 November 2019 10: 20 New
          -11
          Built - for health. Who forbids? I ask why it is not on the political map of the world today? Because what was built turned out to be unviable? Not competitive? Or will we again nod to a bunch of traitors?
          The Russian Empire was destroyed by their agitation and the actions of the Bolsheviks. Those same Bolsheviks whose coming to power you celebrate today. According to the logic of our dialogue, the Bolsheviks are the same bunch of traitors who ruined the state. The example is unsuccessful.
          You don’t need to get personal, I don’t do that. On the contrary, it is extremely polite and correct.
          And the last one. Those. RI is worthless as a country with a flawed ideology, which is why it has disappeared. But the USSR, on the contrary, lives today. The ideology of the USSR helped him survive and now he is flourishing. Did I understand you correctly?
          1. Alexander Suvorov
            Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 10: 40 New
            +9
            Chit
            Because what was built turned out to be unviable?
            Ha ha ha ... So not viable that we still live that legacy.
            The Russian Empire was destroyed by their agitation and the actions of the Bolsheviks. Those same Bolsheviks whose coming to power you celebrate today.
            Are you headquarters ?! Directly the Bolsheviks collapsed ?! And I poor one thought that she was first ruined by a rag-king, and then by the talkers and demagogues from the interim government. But it turns out how ?! lol
      3. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 7 November 2019 10: 06 New
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        Quote: Chit
        The price of such an ideology is worthless.
        The price of such power is worthless.
        Worthless is such a political system.

        Kennedy:
        We cannot defeat the Soviet Union in a conventional war. This is an impregnable fortress. We can defeat the Soviet Union only by other methods: ideological, psychological, propaganda, economics

        James Baker, US Secretary of State:
        We have spent trillions of dollars over the past 40 years to win the Cold War against the USSR

        Worthless, you say?
      4. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 10: 11 New
        -8
        I will add: and the penny of that party, which without constant sweeps turned into a rabble, is worthless.
        1. albert
          albert 7 November 2019 13: 07 New
          10
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          and the price of that party, which without constant sweeps turned into a rabble, is worthless.

          That's right, especially about United Russia. laughing
    3. tacet
      tacet 7 November 2019 12: 23 New
      +3
      Source of your data please.
      There are slightly different numbers:
      Shares of Russia, the USA, Great Britain, Germany and France in world industrial production (in%)
      on 1913/XNUMX/XNUMX
      Russia 5,3
      USA 35,8
      Great Britain 14,0
      Germany 15,7
      France 6,4
      Source: Folke H. Industrialization and Foreign Trade. Geneva, 1945. H. 13; Rather S., Soltow JH, Sylla R. The Evolution of the American Economy. New York, 1979.R. 385.
  • BecmepH
    BecmepH 7 November 2019 09: 15 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    To the honor of the nobles in 1917, they did not surrender power without a fight, unlike the degraded top of the CPSU in 1991.

    Totally agree with you. Be that as it may, the feeling of honor in our people is in the blood.
  • DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 7 November 2019 09: 32 New
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    To the honor of the nobles in 1917, they did not surrender power without a fight, unlike the degraded top of the CPSU in 1991.
    Great honor to fight with my people and even with the help of the interventionists)) fool stop And what was the protection of the werewolves at the top of the CPSU if they themselves specifically ruined the Soviet Union in order to become full masters in torn pieces of the Great Country. You turned everything upside down according to the training manual.
    1. Sergey1987
      Sergey1987 7 November 2019 10: 47 New
      -13
      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      And what was the protection of werewolves at the top of the CPSU

      Well, let's start telling tales about the traitors in the CPSU, about conspiracy theories, about Trotskyists in power all after Stalin. Already so many of these nonsense have been read. Directly from all republics, all party members gathered and agreed to break up the USSR, so that it would rule in places. Baby ravings. The Communist Party turned the USSR into a non-viable state, and such clowns as you allowed its collapse. And now whimpering at the monitors and singing songs about what a wonderful state it was. It would be funny if it were not so sad.
  • Mitya2424
    Mitya2424 7 November 2019 09: 41 New
    +9
    To hell with "noble honor" - they just had no alternative, well, the nobles did not fit into the new device, they either had a bullet, or migration, or a rifle in hand and forward. But the "degraded top of the CPSU" very deftly adapted to the new system, torn apart the great country into local uluses, renaming themselves from secretaries to presidents
  • basmach
    basmach 7 November 2019 10: 01 New
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    To the honor of the nobles, not what you wrote. What did not pass without a fight? To the honor of the nobles is that almost 2 / 3 nobles sided with the Soviet regime.
  • Lieutenant Teterin
    Lieutenant Teterin 7 November 2019 10: 15 New
    -10
    You have some strange numbers. By 1917, youth literacy exceeded 80 percent. Nobles in the country were 1% of the population, and state posts were occupied not by origin, but by talent and education, the share of nobles in the structure of ranks of the Empire was steadily declining.
    Considering the guard, in the infantry of immigrants from the nobles in 1910 there were 44,3%, in the Cossack troops - 44,6%, in the railway troops - 54,3%, in the engineering troops - 69,5%, in the artillery - 76,8 , 79,7% and in cavalry - 1911%. There were quite a lot of immigrants from peasants and philistines by this time. Among the most massive detachment of officers - infantry (including the guard) chief officers, they were in 1912-36. 36,3-41,4% - almost as many as the nobles (40,1-38,3%), in the Cossack units immigrants from the "taxable estate" (here they were mainly Cossacks) comprised 41,2- among the chief officers 22,1%, among headquarters officers - 24,5–36,6%, while nobles –– 37,4–55,8% and 59,2–14,5%, respectively. Among the infantry headquarters officers (colonels and lieutenant colonels), the share of immigrants from the "taxable estate" rose during these years to 16,6-90%. In the army infantry regiments of immigrants from the nobility in the late XIX - early XX centuries. there were very few, some of them were almost absent, so compared with even the middle of the XIX century. the composition of the officers of origin has changed very much. In the years after the Russo-Japanese War, the percentage of nobles as a result of the measures taken increased slightly, reaching approximately the level of the XNUMXs. XIX century., I.e. half, but again showed a downward trend.
    http://swolkov.org/rok/071.htm
    As for the war - it was Patriotic, Russia defended itself against German aggression.
  • tacet
    tacet 7 November 2019 10: 39 New
    +9
    DO NOT DISTORT.
    There were 1897% literate as of 27 (according to the general census) (excluding Finland), and among the male population, literacy was 39%. The worst indicator was Wed-Asia-6%, the best was in the Privisli provinces-41%, the European part (without the Caucasus) -thirty%. By 30, the literate population has halved in your opinion!?
    Nobles made up 1,5% (according to the same general census). 77% peasants (largest stratum)
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  • DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 8 November 2019 00: 50 New
    +2
    Quote: Civil
    To the honor of the nobles in 1917, they did not surrender power without a fight, unlike the degraded top of the CPSU in 1991.

    The degraded top of the CPSU in 1991 did not surrender power, -
    she reformatted the country to her selfish interests.
  • race
    race 8 November 2019 23: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Civil
    So by the beginning of the revolution of 1917 they had in Russia:
    1. 86% of the population are illiterate.
    2. 0,2% of the population are nobles who occupied all public posts.
    3. For 4 years there was a senseless imperialist war.

    So, in order.
    1. 86% of the population are illiterate. - Where does this infa come from? According to the work of A.G. Rashina Population of Russia for 100 years (1813 - 1913) Statistical essays http://istmat.info/node/86, for 1913 about 30% of the population were literate throughout the Russian Empire. At the same time, it is necessary to distinguish between the literacy rate of the population of European Russia and, for example, Central Asia, where the literacy rate was much lower, and this reduced the overall literacy rate in the empire.
    And for the population of Russia aged 8 years and older, the literacy rate can be estimated at 38-39%. (for 1913)
    In this case, the percentage literateaccepted for military service in 1913 amounted to 67,8%. I draw your attention literate.

    2. 0,2% of the population are nobles who occupied all public posts. - In 1905, the proportion of hereditary nobles exceeded 1,0% of the total population of the empire (http://istmat.info/node/24426). Wherein
    By the beginning of the 1897th century, the hereditary nobility, which was officially perceived as “the first pillar of the throne” and “one of the most reliable instruments of the government,” is gradually losing its economic and administrative dominance. In 52, the share of hereditary nobles among the military was 31%, among civil servants 0%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%BE%D81%1%D81%0%D8%B0%D9%B1%D81%0%D0%BA%D0%BE%D5 % B0_% D4% B0% D2% B0% D1% BE% D80% 1% D8% 0F% D1% BD% D81% 1% D82% 0% D2% B0% DXNUMX% BE

    Have you heard about General Alekseev? He was the chief of staff of the headquarters of the Supreme Commander of the Russian Army from 1915 to early 1917. So, he was born into the family of a former soldier of extended service, who served in the sergeant major, and then into officers. He was no nobleman. Should they really know about General Denikin? Well, the leader of those same nobles who, with battle, wanted to regain what was taken from them by the great October Revolution! So, Anton Ivanovich Denikin was born in the family of a retired major border guard. Father, Ivan Efimovich Denikin (1807-1885), came from the serfs of the Saratov province. Such a nobleman. And such examples can be given in full.

    3. For 4 years there was a senseless imperialist war. - I won’t argue with that. Not that it was completely meaningless, but it was completely stupid, and this applies to all its participants, both Allies in the Entente and the Triple Alliance - numerous miscalculations, errors in planning and high expectations. But the Russian Empire was completely unprepared for such a war, and there are many reasons for this.
    Moreover, it was Nicholas II who could, at least theoretically, prevent the war or, at least, postpone its start, but too powerful forces both abroad and within Russia were interested in its beginning.
  • Potato
    Potato 7 November 2019 08: 18 New
    10
    Hooray! Workers of all countries - unite! Together we will build a bright socialist future!
  • Svarog
    Svarog 7 November 2019 08: 31 New
    18
    Happy Holiday! This day, brought true freedom to the working man, made it possible for everyone to be more perfect, create, create!
  • Fitter
    Fitter 7 November 2019 13: 07 New
    +2
    Congratulations on the Great October Socialist Revolution Day from Belarus!
    We are celebrating today!
  • Far B
    Far B 7 November 2019 07: 16 New
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    Happy Great October to all those present !!! drinks drinks drinks
    I suggest to repeat
    1. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 07: 24 New
      13
      Right now, they will run up with the "horrors of the Civil", as if there are millions in the country who are ready to lay down their lives for the modern power of the plutocrats. I have no doubt that there are those who are ready to shoot "for a small share," but the mercenary VERY values ​​his life,
      1. Vladimir16
        Vladimir16 7 November 2019 07: 32 New
        +5
        Fool and glass bolt not for long.
        No one ever gave his life for power.
        Life is given for life. For the lives of their children, for the very opportunity to live on. Life is given for Christ.
        Ghouls are biting for power.
        1. lisiy prapor
          lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 07: 44 New
          +6
          Sorry if I hurt your feelings, I am an agnostic, and Jewish folk tales do not touch me. By the way, Jesus came to save the "children of Israel" and no one but smile , and I only fit the exterior.
          1. Demon_is_ada
            Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 10: 52 New
            +1
            Eeee, how would you say something that would not hurt ... what You see, my mustache Jews laughing (except reptilians) according to Jewish law ... according to mother ... yeah ... Eve was Jewish repeat , therefore, Europe, the Jews have the same root words ... A study of the mitochondrial DNA of women around the world, revealed a striking uniformity and the scientific community unequivocally concluded that the modern female population of the world comes from a single ancestress ... But there is one thing ... Adam how not from mom laughing , here it’s considered by us as a father, but among them as a mother ... The Earth’s most favorite pastime is to guess who the child went to, father or mother laughing Well, yes, there was also Lilith, but this is a closed topic. bully So Jewish folk tales did not grow out of nowhere, and not only Jewish ones ... Are you a mom or dad? Well, right now, I will kindle and humiliate wink In humans, the information accumulated by ancestors is transmitted using genes, it is precisely that part that the "exceptional" American "uchony" called garbage (well, they really have garbage and mosaic), the trick is that there are two varieties of Y b X. women only half the set of male genes (not all information) belay
            so to speak "budget option" ... There is also a trick - from X, Y can be formed almost a copy without 25% of the mother's, or it can be transferred from the father wink or maybe X will form from Y ... So go and figure it out ... yeah ... so not everything is so simple yes

            Happy Holidays, friends!
            1. lisiy prapor
              lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 10: 59 New
              +1
              "We, the Chukchi people, have no prejudices" (c), We are Slavs at the "blood" did not look and do not look, we are not Japanese and not some Anglo-Saxons (as a result of which I, purely outwardly - "the son of Israel")
              1. Freeman
                Freeman 7 November 2019 14: 16 New
                -1
                Quote: lisiy prapor
                "We, the Chukchi people, have no prejudices" (c), We are Slavs at the "blood" did not look and do not look, we are not Japanese and not some Anglo-Saxons (as a result of which I, purely outwardly - "the son of Israel")

                I support. Skin color and religion are not important - the main thing is that the person is good.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 7 November 2019 07: 17 New
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    Happy Holidays!
  • askort154
    askort154 7 November 2019 07: 19 New
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    Happy holiday to all those for whom it has always been a holiday. And our new rulers, not much better, are the Ukrainians we condemn. The history of Russia is treated like a soccer ball, hammering it into one goal or another. yes drinks
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 7 November 2019 07: 58 New
      24
      The new rulers today in their repertoire will hold a solemn march in Moscow in honor of the 78th anniversary of the military parade on November 7, 1941. The parade in honor of the parade, like ... Everyone does, just to erase the people's memory of the Socialist Revolution, and even so savagely-using (replacing) for this, the memory of significant events during the Second World War that is no less significant for the people. am
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 7 November 2019 09: 17 New
        18
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        Parade in honor of the parade, as ..

        Trying to replace concepts and meaning. But they do not say a word why, on that day, November 7, 1941, during a terrible threat, when the enemy was already in Moscow, Stalin and the party still decided to hold a parade. Then there was still no certainty that we would defend Moscow. The enemy was strong and treacherous. Our factories evacuated from West to East have not yet been launched. But the parade was held and it gave confidence that nothing would be over until everything was lost. This is a special condition for a person when he ceases to be afraid of death and is ready for it. That's what the November 7 parade meant. Yes, in our calm time it is difficult to understand. But because of this, the meaning of that event should not be minimized. Even those people who do not like the day of the October Revolution cannot deny what this date really means in our history. And therefore, it becomes even more shameful for the current government that they stole this holiday from us, replacing it with November 4. Contempt for them and only contempt.
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 7 November 2019 11: 22 New
        +8
        Quote: DEPHIHTO
        The new rulers today in their repertoire will hold a solemn march in Moscow in honor of the 78th anniversary of the military parade on November 7, 1941

        Happy Great October Socialist Revolution!
        Spent. Feeling of bewilderment and shame for the organizers of the SHOW.
    2. Roman070280
      Roman070280 7 November 2019 09: 57 New
      12
      Eh .. now would repeat .. am
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 10: 03 New
        -16
        What to repeat? 9 million dead? Are you sure you will not be among them?
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 7 November 2019 10: 13 New
          +9
          You got something wrong ..
          Today is a holiday .. and celebrate not about 9 or 19 or 29 million dead ..
          If you don’t know what day it is today - read at least the article above ..
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 10: 17 New
            -14
            In the years 1917-1922. the country's population decreased by 12,7-15 million people. Of these, 2 million were forced to emigrate, and 10,7–13 million were killed. Thus, the death toll in Russia during the Civil War significantly exceeded the losses of all 38 countries that participated in the First World War. So this holiday with tears in his eyes. It did not interfere with silence to honor the memory of the victims of the coup, regardless of their beliefs.
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 7 November 2019 10: 29 New
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              You can still honor all those who died after 91 years .. without fitting into the market ..
              And if 2 million of those who are now robbing the remaining 148 million, suddenly emigrate .. of course, it will be very sorry .. For being on a rope is much more useful to them ..

              Well, what everyone is celebrating today - you still don’t understand ..
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 10: 40 New
                -14
                The holiday is mixed. Doubtful holiday.
            2. syndicalist
              syndicalist 7 November 2019 10: 49 New
              15
              By this logic, those who died in the Second World War are vain victims. Would surrender on June 23rd and everyone would be alive. Alas, there are no great transformations without sacrifices. I am afraid that today the country is on the verge of changes of no less scale.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 11: 13 New
                -7
                The Patriotic War is an attack of an external enemy who set as his goal the destruction of the Russian people as an ethnic group. If they surrendered, then there would have been much more victims. Civil war is fratricide.
            3. Demon_is_ada
              Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 11: 57 New
              +6
              Excuse me, did you write down as a civilian victim those who died of starvation due to crop failure? belay Just the drought was at 21 ... and the losses from aggression of the Entente hung on the Bolsheviks the same? It’s interestingly compared No.
              1. AU Ivanov.
                AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 12: 10 New
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                In addition to drought, the food surplus was also the cause of the famine, the result of which was a sharp reduction in the sown area (this, not this, will be squeezed out anyway) Peasant uprisings against the power were caused by the same thing: they gave land, but they could not freely dispose of the results of peasant labor
                1. Demon_is_ada
                  Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 12: 43 New
                  +4
                  The sharp reduction in area is the result of the lack of seed that was devoured ...
                  Quote: AS Ivanov.
                  (this, not this - they’ll squeeze it anyway)

                  What a democratic freedom of sowing lol I want to sow, I want not to sow ... yeah ... if you consider that the passports were issued as much in my opinion in '74 laughing Yeah, they asked for an opinion there. good
                  And the uprisings are not uprisings - hunger riots, I know the Tambov uprising well, just on the lands of my ancestors, so here at first they put Antonov on the horns, not the Red Army, but the peasants, and then the Red Army on the horns, and all because of ideological motives, one point was common wives and children, this was the most fundamental, that’s when this issue was decided, the Soviet power was voluntarily supported, and unanimously. And everything that was written in the Soviet era about Antonovism — well, they squealed a bit, so that the image would not fall ...
                  1. AU Ivanov.
                    AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 12: 52 New
                    -1
                    One of the key slogans of the revolution was "Land for the peasants", thanks to which the Bolsheviks received the support of the agrarians. The peasant received the land as his property and could do whatever he wanted with it - he could sow, but he could not sow - it was his personal business. And every peasant had every right to dispose of the results of his labor, I note: hard labor. In fact, the farmer was simply robbed. In Novgorodskaya we also raised food detachments on the pitchfork, squeezing the harvest. And then yes - repression.
                    1. Demon_is_ada
                      Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 13: 16 New
                      +2
                      It is most likely that you had an individual farm there, so it was like that, and the collective farm was not very eager to see because of the flaws in propaganda. We had artels, after the armistice, they simply added to the word artel "The Way to Communism", we did not have collectivization as the liberoids describe it, the delivery of bread and others was agreed, even the plan was overfulfilled all the time, but in return the first tractors came to we, in principle, we did not have hunger, but they gave everything to the maximum, although there were millions on the artel's accounts ... recourse Lenin once before the revolution at the congress said that they say that after a couple of years we’ll stir up, and most importantly, now the propaganda is in place and here they are on ... from the flunk bay and it started with all the troubles ...
                      1. AU Ivanov.
                        AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 13: 28 New
                        -1
                        Collectivization began in 1928, before that most peasant farms were sole. Robbed the peasants in the late tenths - early twenties.
                      2. Demon_is_ada
                        Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 14: 32 New
                        +3
                        Even individual farmers pulled the food appropriation appropriately, surplus to the market, but with the drought they could not even give it away. In our land - even in a drought with the return of the surplus, they lived prosperously, but with regards to Antonov - it was his fighters who collected this very surplus and were called "people's militia", although he recruited those who fled from hunger from the south and the Volga region, there were almost no locals there, but Moscow armed this gang, apparently the shortfalls of the Trotskyists and Socialist-Revolutionaries and the fact that in Ternovka, when they were swollen from hunger in other regions, these ghouls rotted grain under the open sky, the same was and the number of "people's militia" just sharply increased this year, thousands under 50, the real gangster was. That's when it started and it really was a civilian, since the Antonovites were killed half, the rest fled, then Tukhachevsky didn’t understand and tried to repress, as a result, the army was completely killed, they began to shoot from the fronts, the world's first concentration camp in Borisoglebsk, chlorine with mustard gas is the same Tukhachevsky. It's good that they came from the Central Committee and sorted it out, but they killed 100 thousand people ... Such is the lack of information ...
                      3. race
                        race 8 November 2019 23: 33 New
                        0
                        M-yes, judging by your narrative - horses mixed up in a heap, people ...
                      4. Demon_is_ada
                        Demon_is_ada 9 November 2019 00: 10 New
                        0
                        You read in the context of the entire dialogue and carefully. And in life, everything is always interspersed - grains and tares, dung and pearls ... and if that’s embarrassing, so forever please tell us ... yes
  • anjey
    anjey 7 November 2019 07: 21 New
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    Yes, there was a heroic time a hundred years ago, people on the side of the Soviets did not go to death for the Golden Calf and the estate by the river, but for IDEALS and FAITH in the bright future of future generations .....
    1. impostor
      impostor 7 November 2019 08: 13 New
      +7
      and the estate by the river

      Manor beyond the puddle, so ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 November 2019 07: 24 New
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    I want to join in the congratulations and wish the youth not to forget their story. It was celebrated sincerely and sincerely, and cities flourished with flags and banners, people had fun from the heart.
    1. NKT
      NKT 7 November 2019 07: 36 New
      -26
      Undoubtedly, history needs to know, especially its country, but it is also not necessary to idealize certain periods. That October coup d'etat divided our country in half and cost millions of lives.
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 7 November 2019 09: 32 New
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        Do you think millions of dying lives before the revolution? Yes, yes, it is precisely those people (unless of course you consider them to be people) who died from a lack of food, because sometimes they had nothing to eat at a time when kings and nobles bathed in luxury. They died of diseases, because for them no one built hospitals. Died in a meaningless first world war. You do not consider these? And count how many millions of people died after 1991. And what did these sacrifices bring to the people BEFORE 1917? What were these victims after 1991 for? And compare this with what the country and people have achieved between 1917 and 1991. This is the main question, not the fact of the victims. The victims were also after 1917. But largely thanks to these victims, the USSR made an unprecedented breakthrough in the economy, lboron, science, in the level of social welfare. If today our country would again become a leading world power, where there are no handful of billionaires with hundreds of millions of poor and poor, then I would be among the first to stand for the current government, justifying the victims of the 90s and 2000s. If we lived at the level of the leading countries of the world, but alas. There is none of this. Because all these sacrifices were made and are being made in the name of a handful of people who seized power in the country.
        1. NKT
          NKT 7 November 2019 10: 07 New
          -8
          Are you ready to sacrifice your family, children / grandchildren, for a bright future? For example, they will tell you that tomorrow we will destroy all your loved ones (the forest is cut - chips fly), and the day after tomorrow communism sets in? Of course, this is all exaggerated, but the main meaning is clear. Are you ready to sacrifice your loved ones?
          1. kjhg
            kjhg 7 November 2019 10: 23 New
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            Quote: NKT
            Are you ready to sacrifice your family, children / grandchildren, for a bright future?

            You did not understand the meaning of my words. Do you understand what this is? The fact is that they will be sacrificed anyway. Every day are brought. Not just for the sake of their bright future, but for the future of the current ruling group and their children and grandchildren. What is this expressed in? I will not list everything. You yourself will understand. I will give just a few examples:
            - in the poisoned foods that poison us, which leads to an increase in neglect leading to death
            - refusal to provide affordable healthcare
            - in the rejection of social obligations due to which a person has to work more and more
            - in the absence of decent work near the house, because of which you have to dangle and spend most of your life there, which leads to the destruction of families
            - in the fall in real incomes with a simultaneous increase in all taxes, fees and prices
            - with the imposition of credit bondage, without which you can not buy a home
            etc.
            All together leads to the fact that the population of Russia, including my relatives and friends will die out.
          2. lisiy prapor
            lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 10: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: NKT
            Are you ready to sacrifice your family, children / grandchildren, for a bright future? For example, they will tell you that tomorrow we will destroy all your loved ones (the forest is cut - chips fly), and the day after tomorrow communism sets in? Of course, this is all exaggerated, but the main meaning is clear. Are you ready to sacrifice your loved ones?

            And the removal of the tonsils through the anus is a prerequisite? Or just a tradition that can be neglected?
            Sorry, but the intellectual level ... "if your children .." Our children will be taught in schools tomorrow that they were born and will live in (well, you yourself understand what) by the will of God, and must give their lives to please the descendants of those who stole ...
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 15: 09 New
              -3
              Removal of the tonsils through the anus and appendectomy through the esophagus is precisely the Soviet tradition.
  • standan
    standan 7 November 2019 07: 29 New
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    Happy Holidays!
  • yuliatreb
    yuliatreb 7 November 2019 07: 31 New
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    Do not take people to extremes and such holidays will not happen at all. There is no wrong, love your homeland, honor your history, and then the mistakes of the past can be avoided.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 7 November 2019 07: 37 New
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    Happy Holidays Dear FRIENDS !!! For reference: the word comrade came from the word Goods. Commodities in Russia were called trade caravans. When they went with the goods, they drank, ate together, experienced the hardships of the road, died from robbers, and if successful had dividends ... The party address the comrade implied a common Way, a common Purpose, interests, and self-sacrifice for the sake of others.
  • My address
    My address 7 November 2019 07: 40 New
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    Happy Great October Socialist Revolution!
    The revolution that raised the state, country, people of the country to the heights of development!
    A revolution that brought together the interests of the state and the people!
    The Soviet Union cannot be returned, but it is possible to build better. Even the imperfect Soviet Union was the fairest and best state in history.
    1. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 07: 54 New
      +9
      With modern types of capital turnover and control over all operations, this will not be difficult.
      Quote: My address
      The Soviet Union cannot be returned, but it is possible to build better.
    2. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 7 November 2019 08: 56 New
      -13
      Quote: My address
      Even the imperfect Soviet Union was the fairest and best state in history.

      From such a profound statement, one can only choke ... comrade, can you somehow substantiate your words? or do not know the term "repression" and are not familiar with the structure of other countries?
      1. lisiy prapor
        lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 10: 06 New
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        Well, I lived in the Soviet Union, even for 16 years. Well, I don’t remember, huch kill "repression", the fear of steps on the stairs. I must be a slave, right? if I was satisfied with my life in a country where I had to hell with "guarantees" and a sense of personal security (murder in the USSR was still an extraordinary phenomenon)
        Quote: Warrior2015
        From such a profound statement, one can only choke ... comrade, can you somehow substantiate your words? or do not know the term "repression" and are not familiar with the structure of other countries?
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 8 November 2019 11: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Warrior2015
        or don't know the term "repression"

        repression is vital today !! relevant!
  • nesoglasen
    nesoglasen 7 November 2019 07: 40 New
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    All a happy holiday !!! I want to believe that the second Lenin will appear in Russia !!!
    1. Alexander Suvorov
      Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 10: 07 New
      +8
      nesoglasen (Valery)
      All a happy holiday !!! I want to believe that the second Lenin will appear in Russia !!!
      Better Stalin with Beria and Molotov for company!
    2. Demon_is_ada
      Demon_is_ada 7 November 2019 11: 16 New
      +5
      Nope, it will be even worse for the bloodsuckers who are the krovushka folk ... wink Look at the congratulations on the site - from the bottom of the heart, with a clear awareness of the results of life experience of the older generation, and what is even more pleasing - with young people yes There will be millions of Leninians - bearers of ideas and already vast experience, unlike those revolutionaries who have no experience and act on a hunch. So everything has its own time, let it be understood and there will be no civil war laughing , because it will be a hybrid secentric revolution of the spirit, where each bearer of the idea ... Here's to you and "Lenin is more alive than all the living" wink prophetic words ...
      Happy Holiday again, dear friends!
      1. lisiy prapor
        lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 11: 57 New
        +1
        Your words, yes, to a citizen’s god’s ears ... but he’s not there, purely in my opinion.
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  • Per se.
    Per se. 7 November 2019 07: 52 New
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    Yes, the revolutionaries, of course, had mistakes and excesses, but today it is extremely important to take out all the positive things that 102 brought famous events with years ago, it is important to learn the lessons and draw conclusions, without which it is difficult to understand the very scale of what happened over the years post-revolutionary history.
    Yes, the mistakes were, as without them, they built a new social system, thanks to which the Soviet Union became a cosmic and nuclear superpower, the world pole of socialism.

    It was not socialism that lost to capitalism, human vices lost, a great country and a high idea were betrayed by those who were supposed to defend it, implement its further development. Our bureaucrats were impressed by the supermarkets of the West, the gloss of the life of billionaires, they wanted more, and the people were led to the forbidden fruit, "jeans-chewing gum".
    So, the USSR fell, now there is something to compare with, ate "Snickers" ... The new "elite", on November 7, removed from the holidays, and this is a great date in our history. The same French are not ashamed of their revolution, it remains a national holiday in France. It is different with us, many oligarchs were in the CPSU, in the Komsomol, they forgot everything and betrayed. There cannot be a former communist if he really was a communist and not a careerist werewolf, this is another explanation of why a great country perished.

    As one character from the movie said, the idea is immortal, those who betrayed the idea will betray anything, and their morality is worthless, no matter how many billions they own. I really hope that the evolution of society will put everything in its place, socialism will return in a new and better quality, otherwise, Russia, and the whole earthly civilization, does not have a worthy future, in the cult of money and consumer morality.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 7 November 2019 08: 25 New
      23
      Quote: Per se.
      The new "elite" removed from the holidays on November 7, and this is a great date in our history. The same French are not ashamed of their revolution, it remains a national holiday in France

      yes
      We, in Bulbyandii, have a state holiday today! fellow History is history, and we must perceive it as it was (not fictitious, of course, but real).
      And the glass today is not a sin to raise for what was drinks Because we have nothing to be ashamed of smile And whatever the different "Egorovs" sang about sitting on two chairs WE REMEMBER OUR STORY soldier
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 November 2019 09: 57 New
        15
        Rurikovich (Andrey) Belarussian brothers happy holiday !!! drinks
        1. VeteranVSSSR
          VeteranVSSSR 7 November 2019 10: 59 New
          +5
          Thank you!
      2. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 7 November 2019 10: 10 New
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        Rurikovich (Andrey)
        We, in Bulbyandii, have a state holiday today!
        I envy you Belarusians, you, unlike us, have not yet taken the holiday and replaced it with some kind of pseudo-historical burda. For that matter, the Poles were thrown out on November 7th!
        Happy Great October!
      3. Per se.
        Per se. 7 November 2019 10: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Rurikovich
        WE REMEMBER YOUR HISTORY
        Andrei, in Belarus there is father Lukashenko, whatever they say, he means a lot. For me, by and large, Belarus and Cuba are still light in the window. How is Gosha Kutsenko in the role of Fox (film "Antikiller") -
        (At a travel agency)
        - I can help you?
        - I would go to Cuba.
        - Actually, we have many options, but Cuba really has discounts this month, and then, now it’s sunny and warm.
        - It is always warm and sunny there.
        1. bober1982
          bober1982 7 November 2019 11: 57 New
          -4
          Quote: Per se.
          For me, by and large, Belarus and Cuba are still light in the window

          Cuba is a very advanced country, in the sense of LGBT rights, namely:
          - gender reassignment operations (transgender people) are paid from State the budget.
          - same-sex relationships officially allowed from 16 years.
          - to LGBT people officially allowed to serve in the army.
          - Fidel Castro himself officially stated that harassment of LGBT people was a big mistake for revolutionaries.
          - and, much more, in that sense.
          Well, there, in Cuba - warm and sunny.
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 7 November 2019 13: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: bober1982
            Cuba is a very advanced country in terms of LGBT rights
            That is, if in Cuba LGBT people have recognized any rights, then Cuba, the conclusion suggests itself, is a country for LGBT people? So you can pull whatever you want, and even add Fidel to the "dovecote" in between times, for one thing and socialism in general. The socialist idea is alive in Cuba, it was not betrayed even in complete encirclement, being very close to the United States, this is the main thing. And, yes, there are cards there, precisely because this is the most hostile environment and limited resources. Nevertheless, the people in Cuban socialism have a future and the state cares about it, this is the light in the window, what was or will be, return to Cuba capitalism, will already be darkness for the common people, although it is "warm and sunny".
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 7 November 2019 13: 25 New
              -5
              Quote: Per se.
              That is, if in Cuba any rights were recognized by LGBT people

              Wow, any rights ..........
              Quote: Per se.
              also to add Fidel to the "dovecote" between times,

              They, and without me, have long been anointed, you are very naive.
              Quote: Per se.
              behind one and generally socialism

              So after all, with the victory of any revolution, sexual promiscuity begins in the future, let's call it French, Russian revolution, and so on.
              Quote: Per se.
              the people in Cuban socialism have a future

              Yes, no, there has long been no socialism.
              1. Per se.
                Per se. 7 November 2019 14: 07 New
                +6
                Quote: bober1982
                They, and without me, have long been anointed, you are very naive.
                By the way, Vladimir, socialism also lost because in vileness, hypocrisy and hypocrisy, capitalist propaganda out of competition, everything is not naive. Yes, there is a reality, then with the same Cuba, with Belarus, there is no need to go into the absolute. We are not talking about the kingdom of God. In any case, the Soviet idea itself and communist morality are superior to the satanic ideology of the West. You must understand that you are a believer. Here we can also say that faith and religion are not the same thing. Has not religion degraded, have not the servants of God themselves been corrupted? This is the merit of capitalism, the Golden Calf. Paradoxically, denying God, the communists were much closer to the commandments of Christ than those who now make money on faith gain influence, and even more so, those who sold their souls for stolen billions. You have your own opinion, I have my own, thanks for your attention.
                1. bober1982
                  bober1982 7 November 2019 14: 20 New
                  -4
                  After any revolution, the traditional religion is denied and a pseudo-religion is created, that is, they try to create a new type of person, begin to tell people about some future non-existent benefits and achievements (in the future), while a significant part of people are openly declared enemies and are simply thrown out new life (up to physical destruction). This cannot go on for so long, which we witnessed in 1991.
        2. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 12: 02 New
          -4
          Cuba? Light in the window? With a card system for food and an average salary of $ 15 per month. This is not light - this is pitch darkness.
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  • cosmonaut
    cosmonaut 7 November 2019 07: 55 New
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    this is a good article. honestly and without slander. happy holiday!
  • asv363
    asv363 7 November 2019 07: 58 New
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    Happy holiday! Happy Great October Socialist Revolution!
  • Boris55
    Boris55 7 November 2019 07: 59 New
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    All a happy holiday !!!

    On the news showed preparations for the parade ... What happened. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers fought with fascism in the ranks of which were Vlasovs i.e. and against them. I believe that the Vlasov flag, and in this parade it is not a state flag, but Vlasov (it was first approved as a state by the interim government, the traitor of Russia - Kerensky) should not be. Especially to lead this parade. In 17 we also fought against the White Guards who fought under the same flag.

    If anyone doubts that the tricolor at one time was a Vlasov flag, here's a photo document for you:

    1. Naz
      Naz 7 November 2019 08: 23 New
      23
      I am for the old - red flag! The whole world knew that this was what stood behind him ..... but right now .....
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 7 November 2019 08: 33 New
      +3
      for the first time he became a state much earlier. in 1896. what does Kerensky have to do with it? and what does Vlasov have to do with it? if someone else took with what joy you give them their name then?
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 November 2019 08: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: carstorm 11
        for the first time he became a state much earlier. in 1896 year

        He was a trading flag, providing us with trade with the West and more.

        According to the maritime law of those times, a ship sailing not under the approved flag was considered pirate, and had to be sunk. That’s why Peter was forced to accept it, not as state, but as commercial, Yes, to ensure our trade with the West. No more.

        Quote: carstorm 11
        if someone else took with what joy you give them their name then?

        Swastika is an ancient symbol. Why is its media demonstration prohibited in Russia?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 7 November 2019 08: 54 New
          0
          coronation of Nicholas II. and his decree. 1896 year. To unite the people in a difficult period for Russia, it was decided to declare a white-blue-red three-lane canvas as a single flag for all occasions. and what does Vlasov and Kkerensky let me ask again? and what does the swastika have to do with it? where and when were forbidden for example Slavic swastikas?
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 7 November 2019 09: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: carstorm 11
            where and when were forbidden for example Slavic swastikas?

            "Code of the Russian Federation on Administrative Offenses" dated 30.12.2001 N 195-FZ (as amended on 02.08.2019) (as amended and supplemented, entered into force on 01.11.2019)
            "" Administrative Code of the Russian Federation Article 20.3. Propaganda or public display of Nazi attributes or symbols, or attributes or symbols of extremist organizations, or other attributes or symbols, the propaganda or public display of which is prohibited by federal laws ...

            1. Propaganda or public demonstration of Nazi paraphernalia or symbols, or paraphernalia or symbols similar to Nazi paraphernalia or symbols to the point of confusion, or paraphernalia or symbols of extremist organizations, or other paraphernalia or symbols, the propaganda or public display of which is prohibited by federal laws, -
            shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of from one thousand to two thousand rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense or administrative arrest for up to fifteen days with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense; for officials - from one thousand to four thousand rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense; for legal entities - from ten thousand to fifty thousand rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense.
            2. The manufacture or sale for propaganda purposes or the acquisition for sale or propaganda of Nazi paraphernalia or symbols, or paraphernalia or symbols similar to Nazi paraphernalia or symbols to the point of confusion, or paraphernalia or symbols of extremist organizations, or other paraphernalia or symbols, propaganda or public demonstration which are prohibited by federal laws, -
            shall entail the imposition of an administrative fine on citizens in the amount of from one thousand to two thousand five hundred rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense; for officials - from two thousand to five thousand rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense; for legal entities - from twenty thousand to one hundred thousand rubles with confiscation of the subject of an administrative offense.


            The swastika is one of the elements of Nazi symbolism.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 7 November 2019 09: 57 New
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              you confuse the concepts of a swastika and a swastika symbol a little, but these are trifles) I think the media and not forbidden due to mixing will not be missed. although she even met in Soviet and awards and even money in my opinion. but the flag was definitely not mistaken)
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 8 November 2019 11: 48 New
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          Quote: Boris55
          Swastika is an ancient symbol. Why is its media demonstration prohibited in Russia?

          a sign of eternity, Indian ... today it is associated with fascism and the mass destruction of people by industrial means. You see, we live in a world of symbols, while the swastika will be banned people will remember about fascism.
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 7 November 2019 10: 00 New
      +8
      Quote: Boris55
      All a happy holiday !!!

      And what then are you talking about multipultina ?!
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 7 November 2019 10: 28 New
        -5
        Quote: Stroporez
        And what then are you talking about multipultina ?!

        I drown for Russia.

        Because as then in the 17, the general staff of the tsarist army spoke not for the Reds, but for Russia, just as the security forces in the 90's, of which Putin is a representative, spoke in defense of today's Russia. The separation of Chechnya, a year after the signing of the Khasavyurt agreements, gave rise to the collapse of Russia ...

        It’s not a secret to anyone that the Yeltsin hated the Sapchakovs and that, according to their ideas, Putin was to be a scapegoat that would ruin Russia, and the family would have nothing to do with it. Broke off.

        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 7 November 2019 10: 36 New
          +6
          Boris55 (Boris)I am very sorry, but I CAN’t read your nonsense, like watching a parade under the Vlasov flag.
          Let's not mess up the branch hi
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 7 November 2019 10: 42 New
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            Quote: Stroporez
            Let's not mess up the branch

            Let's not, but your belief that illiterate peasants could defeat Kolchak, Denikin and others. Bastard, simply amaze.

            ps
            Review the film "The Adjutant of His Excellency", "Days of the Turbins" ... and others.
            1. bober1982
              bober1982 7 November 2019 12: 58 New
              -3
              Quote: Boris55
              but your belief that illiterate peasants could beat Kolchak, Denikin, etc. bastard, is simply surprising.

              When the Great Patriotic War began, Stalin addressed the people religiously - brothers and sisters, remembered both Suvorov and Kutuzov and others. And why? He did not begin to recall successful campaigns against the interventionists during the Civil War.
              The fact is that any revolution destroys and shreds the old life, its orders and traditions. But, the new government will not be able to exist in the future on new revolutionary traditions - it will simply be swept away. She wants power, or does not want, but she needs to rely on the fragments of the previous order, which is why they remembered the Patriotic War of 1812, officer shoulder straps and much more.
              We must take all the best that was from the previous government and life.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 7 November 2019 08: 04 New
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    Today I went to a pharmacy and three stores and everywhere congratulated cashiers and sellers on the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, telling them that this holiday was established in honor of an event taking place, and it is much more honorable than the "established from above" day of supposedly national unity ...
    Happy Holidays!
    1. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 7 November 2019 16: 16 New
      +1
      Did they even know what it was about?
      Many young Russians do not know who Lenin is.
  • impostor
    impostor 7 November 2019 08: 04 New
    22

    November XNUMXth Day -
    Red day calendar.
    Look out your window:
    Everything on the street is red!

    Flags at the gates
    Blazing in flames.
    See, the music is coming
    Where the trams went.

    All people - both young and old -
    Celebrates freedom.
    And my red ball flies
    Straight to the sky

    Happy Great October! Hooray!
  • Van 16
    Van 16 7 November 2019 08: 11 New
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    Red day of the calendar, the day of November XNUMXth! Happy holiday!
  • K-50
    K-50 7 November 2019 08: 12 New
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    Today is November 7th, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution.

    All with a holiday sacred to our fathers, grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers !!
    No matter how we treat him now, it’s hard to argue that the Revolution gave a huge impetus (if not a kick) to the development of our country.
    Happy Holidays, friends !!! drinks
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 7 November 2019 08: 17 New
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    Only a very stupid or dishonorable person can call the Great October Socialist Revolution the October Revolution. Happy holiday!
    1. NKT
      NKT 7 November 2019 08: 31 New
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      You need to know the history of your country!

      See, for example, Comrade Stalin's article, “The October Revolution and the National Question,” October 1918.

      Having overthrown the power of the landowners and the bourgeoisie and putting in its place the government of workers and peasants, the October Revolution with one blow resolved the contradictions of the February Revolution.

      The term "Great October Socialist Revolution" was officially introduced only in 1927.
      1. Eug
        Eug 7 November 2019 09: 01 New
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        Over time, a rethinking of the significance of events often comes. What contemporaries considered a coup, the descendants considered the Great October Socialist Revolution.
      2. Prisoner
        Prisoner 7 November 2019 09: 16 New
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        So I didn’t think of it. However, in relation to the February October one can be considered a coup. The coup is when they drove Yanuk and replaced by potatoes. And here it is the revolution, and the Great!
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 November 2019 10: 02 New
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        Quote: NKT
        The term "Great October Socialist Revolution" was officially introduced only in 1927

        Well, what do you mean by that? What does it change?
        1. NKT
          NKT 7 November 2019 10: 11 New
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          Firstly, not you, but you, secondly, this is the answer to the saying, thirdly, if you do not understand what I wanted to say, we pass by.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 7 November 2019 10: 24 New
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            MEETING OF THE PETROGRAD COUNCIL OF WORKERS AND SOLDIERS DEPUTIES
            OCTOBER 25 (NOVEMBER 7) 1917

            NEWSPAPER REPORT
            Comrades! The workers 'and peasants' revolution, about the necessity of which the Bolsheviks spoke all the time, was accomplished.

            Colleague, I absolutely do not want to argue about terminology today. The significance of the Revolution will not change from this.
            Threat. I assumed that on this branch Comrades, that's why I said
            "you". But if you are on "you", then if you please. hi
            1. NKT
              NKT 7 November 2019 10: 33 New
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              ........ Accepted! hi
      4. Mcar
        Mcar 7 November 2019 11: 03 New
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        Quote: NKT
        You need to know the history of your country!

        See, for example, Comrade Stalin's article, “The October Revolution and the National Question,” October 1918.

        Having overthrown the power of the landowners and the bourgeoisie and putting in its place the government of workers and peasants, the October Revolution with one blow resolved the contradictions of the February Revolution.

        The term "Great October Socialist Revolution" was officially introduced only in 1927.

        The revolution of 1917 was called the revolution from the first day. Another question is what exactly Great, exactly October, exactly socialist - these three words in a single combination appeared, yes, later.

        But after all, WWII did not immediately begin to call that. Not since September 1, 1939.
    2. Warrior2015
      Warrior2015 7 November 2019 09: 00 New
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      Quote: Captive
      Only a very stupid or dishonorable person can call the Great October Socialist Revolution the October Revolution. Happy holiday!

      You have already been answered below that even your clearly beloved Stalin used this very term.
      And in fact - in October 1917, "Navalny of his time" with a group of comrades of professional revolutionaries came and staged a coup with German-American money! Whatever power has been in Russia since February 1917, those who came were even worse! (as proved by the trials over them in the 20s-30s)
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    3. kjhg
      kjhg 7 November 2019 09: 48 New
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      Quote: Captive
      Only a very stupid or dishonorable person can call the Great October Socialist Revolution the October Revolution.

      Even if by definition and terms at that time it was a revolution, but in terms of the scale of subsequent events, changes, movements, it was a real Great October Socialist Revolution of a historical scale for all of mankind. Literally, the whole planet, one way or another, felt the positive consequences of this event. And who after this can say that this was not a revolution? Only fools, only villains.
  • Naz
    Naz 7 November 2019 08: 20 New
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    Happy November 7th! Hooray comrades!
  • Vadim T.
    Vadim T. 7 November 2019 08: 26 New
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    We can say that those in power, banning Soviet holidays and rewriting our history, are afraid for their future and the future of assets stolen from the state. But this is only part of the truth.
    If someone has set a goal to destroy the Starn, he begins by destroying her story. In fact, we are talking not only about the withdrawal from the heritage created by the labor of many generations, but also from the ancestors themselves.
    And this is the worst thing - after all, before our eyes, they are trying to make a great mankurt out of a great nation who does not remember kinship.
  • Foul skeptic
    Foul skeptic 7 November 2019 08: 43 New
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    "The sea shone, everything was in bright light, and the waves beat menacingly against the shore.
    "In their lion's roar, a song about a proud bird thundered, the rocks trembled from their blows, the sky trembled from a formidable song:
    "We sing glory to the madness of the brave!
    "The madness of the brave is the wisdom of life! Oh, brave Falcon! You bled out in a battle with enemies ... But there will be time - and drops of your blood, hot like sparks, will flare up in the darkness of life and many brave hearts will kindle with an insane thirst for freedom, light !
    "Let you die! .. But in the song of the brave and strong in spirit, you will always be a living example, a call to the proud to freedom, to light!
    "To the madness of the brave we sing a song! .."
    1. VeteranVSSSR
      VeteranVSSSR 7 November 2019 11: 05 New
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      ,, fly, al crawl-end is known
      everything will fall on the Earth, everything will be dust ... ''
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 11: 19 New
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      True, Gorky himself reacted to the revolution with great skepticism and quickly drove off over a hill.
  • arhitroll
    arhitroll 7 November 2019 08: 44 New
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    Humanity is not yet ripe for a just society. Need evolution into something like the following ...
    1. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 08: 51 New
      +1
      At the present stage of development there are already enough technologies.
      1. arhitroll
        arhitroll 7 November 2019 08: 54 New
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        In addition to "technologies", a change in human consciousness is needed. Greed, vanity, domination and a bunch of charms ...
        1. lisiy prapor
          lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 09: 04 New
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          When "your" financial engines are under complete control, then at least get away from the greed of vanity and authority, the Criminal Code and the Constitution of the RSFSR (with the necessary technical amendments, of course) will help
  • Orkraider
    Orkraider 7 November 2019 08: 46 New
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    Happy holiday, comrades!
    It was a great page in the book of our Motherland. It remains only to regret, and pass on the truth about those days to your children! So that they know and remember the truth!

    Happy November 7th!
  • Graz
    Graz 7 November 2019 08: 50 New
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    lost millions, won tens of millions of people
    so that's it
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  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 November 2019 08: 54 New
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    The most significant day today is 7 November, the anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Congratulations to all on this day, I hope that someday we will return everything back when the working person will sound proudly.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 7 November 2019 17: 50 New
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      Quote: tihonmarine
      when a working person will sound proud.

      Communism is a pseudo-religion, which also has its own "commandments", one of which you voiced, which was literally hammered into our heads by the newly-minted builders of paradise on earth, but pride is a mortal sin, it is the contempt of one's neighbor, and pride begins with vanity ... Any revolutionary is a friend and comrade of Satan.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 November 2019 19: 54 New
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        Quote: bober1982
        Communism is a pseudo-religion that has its own "commandments"

        Thank you for answering openly, but expressing your thoughts, this is commendable. As they say, "To each his own, who likes the pop, and who likes the priest." I lived and wanted to live in a socialist society, you in a capitalist society, although we already live in it. And there is nothing wrong with that.
  • Eug
    Eug 7 November 2019 08: 57 New
    +4
    The most significant general political event of the 20th century. Personally, I am very sorry that I did not succeed, the idea was correct, but execution out of the blue ...
    1. lisiy prapor
      lisiy prapor 7 November 2019 09: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: Eug
      The most significant general political event of the 20th century. Personally, I am very sorry that I did not succeed, the idea was correct, but execution out of the blue ...

      What do you consider to be an unsuccessful performance? If the "elite" selection system, then yes, I agree, they sold everything for a small bribe. And about the "economic lag", these tales are a side note to me, at the end of the 80s the USSR was a leader in scientific and technical terms ("Energia-Buran", "Mriya", 2 "VeGi" "Phobos" (unsuccessful truth), BAM was completed finally). What did America say? "Spirit" at 500 million apiece, "Challenger" (the astronauts died from hitting the water, well, there is no rescue system on the shuttles), and the brewing "mortgage bubble", which nevertheless burst, but in the 2000s (not resources USSR postponed this event?)
      1. Eug
        Eug 12 November 2019 21: 39 New
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        The personnel selection system ultimately led to artificially created economic problems and the surrender of everything and everything. But I don’t need to convince me on the issue of scientific and technological progress - I’m very unsure of the flight of mattresses to the moon with the mass of unresolved issues that were present many years later on the shuttles ... Plus, I’m from Kharkov, and what happened to its scientific and technical potential, still does not fit into the head ...
  • Million
    Million 7 November 2019 09: 06 New
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    Happy Holidays!
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 7 November 2019 09: 10 New
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    Many forget or do not know that the Bolsheviks overthrew the bourgeoisie, the interim government, and not the Russian Empire. It was a difficult time, but people survived and built a new empire - the USSR.

    Hooray comrades, happy holiday!
  • Pharao7766
    Pharao7766 7 November 2019 09: 39 New
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    Happy Holidays to all, friends!
    I hope to find in my lifetime the return of that great country that we all lost.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 7 November 2019 10: 00 New
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    Thanks to everyone for whom November 7 is still a holiday! Congratulations ! For me, the day of November 4 passed unnoticed ... if my wife had not "casually" mentioned that "today is a holiday ...", then I would never have remembered that November 4 was a "holiday" ... however, this is not important ... anyway, I immediately forgot about the "holiday" and remained sober that day request But today (that is, 7 of November ...) I will definitely drink it! fellow Everything "passed" (!) ... the "bourgeois hangover" will also pass ...
    1. Revival
      Revival 7 November 2019 11: 17 New
      +5
      November 4 "holiday" without event) and laughter and sin.
      Ask those who celebrate it, and what happened on November 4?
      Oops Nothing))
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    1. Isk1984
      Isk1984 7 November 2019 10: 38 New
      +4
      Why are you such a narrow-minded person, Russophobic .....? Yes, in every corner of the world under the USSR they knew the Russian language, culture and so on, the influence was enormous which is not observed today ...
  • Revival
    Revival 7 November 2019 10: 23 New
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    Happy holiday, comrades!
  • Isk1984
    Isk1984 7 November 2019 10: 55 New
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    Why do liberals always forget that, if not for October 17, the Western elite would not have allowed any selective and labor breaks, there was no middle class at all, only the fear of the first state of workers and peasants forced them to move and do something ,
    the progressive significance of red october is simply hard to deny, it was a giant step of civilization
    really from plow to space flights .....
    That's it ... and no Russian Empire, as they say 13 years old, could not and did not want anything ....
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 11: 31 New
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      "Relaxation" for the working class in many Western countries began long before the October Revolution. The same G. Ford introduced the 8-hour working day at his factories in 1914. And Australia introduced it by law in the first half of the 19th century. And there was no fear - there was a trade union movement, thanks to which social benefits appeared.
      1. Foul skeptic
        Foul skeptic 7 November 2019 12: 02 New
        +4
        Ford solved the problem of labor turnover, and not the problem of wear and tear of these same personnel. It would be better if Abbe was cited as an example, an attempt to give out a private initiative pursuing personal goals for the policy of the official authorities of the states would look more convincing. The first attempt was at the General Conference of the International Labor Organization in Washington on October 29, 1919.
        And about Australia, which in the first half of the 19th century, as a colony of Great Britain, legally introduced an 8-hour working day, I would like to hear details.
  • Revival
    Revival 7 November 2019 11: 21 New
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    November 4th is a "holiday" without an event.
    Nothing significant happened on November 4.
    Many people, as usual, announced to them that it was something like November 4 and the whole holiday began))
  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 12: 06 New
    +4
    Quote: Chit
    Built - for health. Who forbids? I ask why it is not on the political map of the world today? Because what was built turned out to be unviable? Not competitive? Or will we again nod to a bunch of traitors?
    The Russian Empire was destroyed by their agitation and the actions of the Bolsheviks. Those same Bolsheviks whose coming to power you celebrate today. According to the logic of our dialogue, the Bolsheviks are the same bunch of traitors who ruined the state. The example is unsuccessful.
    You don’t need to get personal, I don’t do that. On the contrary, it is extremely polite and correct.
    And the last one. Those. RI is worthless as a country with a flawed ideology, which is why it has disappeared. But the USSR, on the contrary, lives today. The ideology of the USSR helped him survive and now he is flourishing. Did I understand you correctly?


    V.I., Lenin is the brilliant leader of the revolution, the Bolsheviks are revolutionaries. 1917 is a revolution that was supported by a huge number of people (not the coup of 90xx). The Russian Empire collapsed under the weight of internal problems (see the revolutionary situation) and the incompetent rule of Mickey 2 and his Co.
    The fact that the People have withdrawn / have been removed from government, the misfortune of the People and the successors / grave diggers of the ideas of a nation-wide state.
    As history shows, the most arrogant, organized, greedy for money and power, traitorous personalities are rushing to the helm, the names of today are well known to everyone. To command and swagger is the meaning of their life.
    Our people, for the most part, want to live quietly, without straining, away from the hustle and bustle of politics, in their personal country, and the state, the government, must love and cherish it without fail !? It wasn’t there ... The revolution must be defended, comrades! To each!!!
    Overslept. And here the 5 column quickly fussed, so you shook off the ashes of the totalitarian socialist state, all its achievements and failures. And they plunged into capitalism to their ears, all 90% of the silent population. Capitalism is a dead end branch of a society where money rules and nothing more.
    The world of consumers, which is pumped up with goods that are necessary and not necessary, crushing labor, intellectual, material, natural resources for one purpose - profit. His slogan is to consume (if you can)! You can’t ...: Your problems!
    There is no alternative to the social state! Capitalism does not accept it in its essence! Therefore, there can be no fraternity between the exploiter and the exploited.
    Yes, capitalism in Russia won, but this is not the end of the ideas of socialism! Socialism is the future! Unless this world burns in the furnace of nuclear conflict.
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 7 November 2019 12: 16 New
      +2
      Do not confuse socialism as a state socio-economic system and a social state that is built in many capitalist countries.
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      2. Isk1984
        Isk1984 7 November 2019 12: 29 New
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        Built just under the influence of the existence of the USSR, otherwise they would have been swept away from the historical board ...
  • And
    And 7 November 2019 12: 10 New
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    I don’t understand why the majority here celebrate and congratulate each other on November 7. At the same time, these same commentators are ready to spray drool over the monitor when ukrofashi-killers celebrate their Maidan, although this was also a revolutionary coup that led to the outbreak of civil war. It’s just that there are dates that you need to celebrate and congratulate everyone on their onset, but there are dates that you can’t forget, hold memorable events, but you can’t consider them a holiday and celebrate with fun and smiles.
  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 12: 30 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Do not confuse socialism as a state socio-economic system and a social state that is built in many capitalist countries.

    I agree. Everywhere replace social (petty-bourgeois term) with socialist! Labor in the interests of the state and of everyone is socialism. The social - slobbering, excuse, glossing over the essence of capitalism - the exploitation of man by man in the interests of the exploiter.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 November 2019 12: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: Amper
      The social - slobbering, excuse, glossing over the essence of capitalism - the exploitation of man by man in the interests of the exploiter.

      Just as bad moonshine is tinted with raspberry syrup, so imperialism is tinted with the same syrup called "social." But that one and that other are seemingly beautiful, but the taste and smell are solid rubbish.
  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 12: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: And
    I don’t understand why the majority here celebrate and congratulate each other on November 7. At the same time, these same commentators are ready to spray drool over the monitor when ukrofashi-killers celebrate their Maidan, although this was also a revolutionary coup that led to the outbreak of civil war. It’s just that there are dates that you need to celebrate and congratulate everyone on their onset, but there are dates that you can’t forget, hold memorable events, but you can’t consider them a holiday and celebrate with fun and smiles.

    Yes, not to smile now. The people are completely at a loss, nor any prospects for the improvement of being, every day brings new burdens from the bourgeoisie. The clouds are gathering, is it too early to be a thunderstorm, is it too late.
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    2. And
      And 7 November 2019 14: 35 New
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      Unfortunately, I completely agree with you. It can be seen that the patience of the people with each new reform is shrinking like a spring, and at such a rate the compression limit is just around the corner. Therefore, it is necessary not to conceal such events in the history of the Motherland, but to talk about them and remember. So that every citizen, from simple robots to the supreme commander in chief, knows and remembers the causes and consequences of the revolution in full. But once again I repeat, to celebrate the day of the revolutionary coup d'etat as a holiday - that's dismissal, not for me. hi
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 7 November 2019 12: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: Vladimir_6
    But the All-Russian chaos did not arise on its own. He was carefully prepared and financed from the outside. During the revolution and civil war, millions of Russian citizens died.

    Of course, the Crimean War of 1854, the Great French Revolution, the Japanese Revolution of 1905 and the First and Second World Wars, which for us ended in Gorbachev's "catastrophe", did not grow up in a dewy place. If Marx and Engels wrote the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" as a guide for the action of these parties, which began to operate, then world imperialism also did not sit idly by, and it still has more money and opportunities. And we lost the first round.
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  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 12: 40 New
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    Quote: AU Ivanov.
    Do not confuse socialism as a state socio-economic system and a social state that is built in many capitalist countries.

    I agree. Everywhere replace social (petty-bourgeois term) with socialist! Labor in the interests of the state and of everyone is socialism. The social - slobbering, excuse, glossing over the essence of capitalism - the exploitation of man by man in the interests of the exploiter.
  • Fitter
    Fitter 7 November 2019 13: 07 New
    +6
    Congratulations on the Great October Socialist Revolution Day from Belarus!
    We are celebrating today!
  • Amper
    Amper 7 November 2019 13: 09 New
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    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Vladimir_6
    But the All-Russian chaos did not arise on its own. He was carefully prepared and financed from the outside. During the revolution and civil war, millions of Russian citizens died.

    Of course, the Crimean War of 1854, the Great French Revolution, the Japanese Revolution of 1905 and the First and Second World Wars, which for us ended in Gorbachev's "catastrophe", did not grow up in a dewy place. If Marx and Engels wrote the "Manifesto of the Communist Party" as a guide for the action of these parties, which began to operate, then world imperialism also did not sit idly by, and it still has more money and opportunities. And we lost the first round.

    Of course, not a single revolution arises from scratch, for this we need reasons, ideas, motivating forces, leaders. See the term revolutionary situation. Money is far from the main lever in the revolution, but material support should be conditional.
  • Fitter
    Fitter 7 November 2019 13: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: lexus
    On a just cause, he raised the peoples

    Stalin raised us loyalty to the people
  • Fitter
    Fitter 7 November 2019 13: 12 New
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Suvorov
    RUSS (Maxim)
    Quince
    Of course! And not only a padded jacket, but also a scoop! AND Proud of it!

    AND I !