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Sell ​​Poland: real perspectives from Donald Trump

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Not so long ago, the decision of the US president to withdraw US troops from the territory of military bases in northern Syria with the simultaneous abandonment of the Kurdish armed forces was virtually one on one with the Turkish army in the Polish expert community. Then the Turks began Operation Source of Peace. At the same time, Poland openly stated that they were hoping for an "American interest in relations with Warsaw." The general message: the Kurds are not in NATO, we are in NATO, therefore, for the United States we have more weight, which means that the Americans will not do so with Poland as they did with the Kurds. Today, Polish hopes are "strengthened" - primarily reports that "the US has not abandoned the Kurds." As you know, Washington decided to use YPG to patrol the territories of oil facilities in Syria.


Sell ​​Poland: real perspectives from Donald Trump


If we start from this situation, the question arises: how Poland is really interesting for the USA as a partner?

On the one hand, the Polish weight seems to be high for Washington. First of all, they are trying to make Poland the territory of the terminals for American LNG. Secondly, an American missile defense facility is being created in Poland. Thirdly, the American "hawks" are impressed by the fact of impassable Russophobia of the current Polish authorities. Fourthly, Poland in the USA is seen as an opportunity to weaken Germany - so that it doesn’t suddenly allow itself to take a “step to the left - a step to the right” of the European policy pursued by the American authorities.

But for all that, Poland is vulnerable. And her vulnerability is associated with the mood of one person whose name is Donald Trump. As a businessman, Trump is not interested in either Polish politics or Polish Russophobia, nor, especially, the Polish army. As a businessman, Trump is interested in one question: is it possible to earn money in Poland? If even more straightforward: can someone offer Trump more than what the United States will allow Poland to earn on itself? If this happens, then Trump, using his well-known thesis that “from them to the USA is seven to eight thousand miles”, can openly sell Poland along with its small-town interests. The terminal and the missile defense facility will be left "for themselves", and a battalion will be enough for security and maintenance.

Why is this scenario real?


He is real for the reason that Poland is in debt. Today, Poland’s foreign debt is 352 billion dollars. At the same time, while in the presidency of Andrzej Duda, the level of public debt in relation to Poland's GDP fell by less than 1%. Today it is about 50% of GDP. It would seem that not so much as in the United States, but Poland has obligations under which it should actively repay debts to foreign creditors (primarily to Germany) at about 0,5% of GDP per year, starting from 2020 of the year. Poland still does not have such an active printing press as the United States ... Every year, Poland spends $ X billion on military industry 10-11. At the same time, Poland is trying to make military purchases from the US, but this is becoming more and more problematic. We would like the F-35 squadron, but they are no longer pulling economically. And Trump doesn't like that. His refusal to visit Poland on the day of the 80 anniversary of the start of World War II (referred to as a hurricane) as a small but disturbing bell.

The US President, as a businessman, understands that Poland is untenable as an independent economic player. Industry, coal mining, and agriculture are severely limited in their effectiveness by European Union quotas and Russian counter-sanctions. Credit flow did not lead to the development of a powerful industrial sector in Poland (and who in the EU needed it at all ...). A good job for a Pole is working in Britain.

In this regard, the Polish leadership, perhaps, should really think, but how big is its role in American geopolitics? Could it be that the Polish “economic miracle”, grown on the basis of German loans, will not bear the burden of obligations to American partners and to the ambitions of their own politicians who see opponents in their neighbors and are confident of their own infallibility?
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  1. GKS 2111
    GKS 2111 6 November 2019 18: 21 New
    10
    Poland is untenable as an independent economic player.
    Not the slightest sympathy. Millions of our souls are on their conscience from the creation of the world. Burn in hell.
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 6 November 2019 18: 44 New
      10
      Poland is a vivid example of how a pawn that a chess player took in his hand for the move, guided exclusively by his stupid ambition, suddenly imagines himself not even a queen, but immediately one of the players !!! And only having landed on the board and having lost tactile contact with the Player, she will understand that she, Poland, is just a simple pawn, which the Player can and is always ready to sacrifice in order to improve the quality of the game ...
      1. Shurik70
        Shurik70 6 November 2019 21: 59 New
        +1
        Trump, using his well-known thesis that “from them to the United States seven to eight thousand miles”, can openly sell Poland

        Um ...
        Who is the buyer?
        Certainly not Russia.
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 7 November 2019 01: 09 New
          0
          Well, there is a buyer.
          On the present territory of Poland there are a lot of “willing” people, and those who from ancient times owned these territories. And the Czech Republic, and Slovakia, and Germany with Ukraine. Yes, and pickup mongrels from the Baltic corner are always ready to nibble a piece if the owner allowed it. And no matter who gives the command. Yes, and the Russian Empire once "Warsaw ulus" rules.
          There will be no patron - neighbors will understand the "heirs" of the Commonwealth, her.
          And for free.
  2. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 6 November 2019 18: 23 New
    +5
    In Poland, as in communicating vessels, Polish hard workers go further to western Europe, Ukrainians go to Poland ... but no one goes to Ukraine))) and I’m flattering ... for Trump like two fingers .. I apologize, in general, when we are talking about Poland immediately Mayakovsky's poem about the Soviet passport .. remember?
    1. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 6 November 2019 19: 04 New
      +6
      Once, as in the time of Catherine the Second, the question may arise, but is it even necessary as an independent state?
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 7 November 2019 01: 15 New
          +1
          What you, old man, bloodthirsty ...
          Let yourself go to the countries of flourishing democracy.
          On the one hand, the working force, and on the other, a natural fifth column, ready at any time, in case of any complications, to abandon the host country. With such friends and enemies is not necessary.
          1. TokarevT
            TokarevT 7 November 2019 11: 32 New
            0
            Something I did not meet, that the Poles threw Anglo-Skuns heavily. And those couple with the Vatican will throw them at us at every opportunity. Feed, darn, sub-fertile and on the road. As soon as the project begins to stall, the howl immediately rises about deep mercy and Christian values, otherwise, God forbid, the Russians will destroy the whole nurtured resource. And in this direction, unfortunately, the Russian priests with the Vatican and skunks sing in the same tune, enough M.V. Gogol recall.
        2. Waddimm
          Waddimm 7 November 2019 06: 22 New
          +1
          Quote: TokarevT
          The remaining biomass, if that can be used on cat and dog canned food.

          You read and marvel. What is it? Sick fantasy, weird humor? Why write this?
          Yes, from the territory of present-day Poland since ancient times there has been a threat to Russian lands. Yes, Poland today is the main merchant of Russophobia. Yes, this requires a correct assessment and adequate counteraction!
          But "canned cat food" is the delirium of a sick person!
          1. TokarevT
            TokarevT 7 November 2019 11: 35 New
            0
            Why should Russians consider for people those who themselves do not consider them to be people? And if they are not people, why not consider them as an industrial resource for canned goods or, for example, fertilizers, which is easier to implement? This is not a fantasy or humor; it is a rational approach to disposing of the enemy.
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 7 November 2019 19: 24 New
              +1
              Don't be afraid of God at all ...
              1. TokarevT
                TokarevT 7 November 2019 22: 32 New
                0
                Does God forbid the use of the gifts of the animal world?
              2. TokarevT
                TokarevT 7 November 2019 22: 58 New
                +1
                Prophet Muhammad: "........ Will not everyone destroy wild beasts that devour people, even if they themselves have a human appearance? ....".
                God is not afraid of those who allow biped animals to devour their neighbors with impunity, eat fat and breed on it and hunger for even more blood.
          2. TokarevT
            TokarevT 7 November 2019 22: 39 New
            +1
            From the ancient times death has come from Poland to Russian lands. Poland today is one of the main centers of hatred for the Russians, which, if realized, implies again death or the deepest slavery for the Russians. Like any hearth that carries a potential threat of death, it should be sanitized the same and 10 times more than that. It’s like with gas gangrene, when a high amputation is required within absolutely healthy tissues for confidence in the cure.
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 8 November 2019 00: 05 New
              +1
              Also suggest building gas chambers or pouring sarin on Polish territory ...
              Patriots, damn it!
              Themselves must be planted in a monkey house, so as not to harm the human race.
              1. TokarevT
                TokarevT 8 November 2019 18: 42 New
                0
                Poles are the quintessence of the human race?
                1. sniperino
                  sniperino 22 November 2019 11: 39 New
                  -1
                  Quote: TokarevT
                  Poles are the quintessence of the human race?
                  We started off well, but we got burned on "little things" - on canned food. It was necessary first to throw an idea about handbags made of human skin, maybe one of the metrosexuals would be led.
                  1. TokarevT
                    TokarevT 22 November 2019 12: 15 New
                    0
                    Long to mess around.
                    Here is another task, the rest is only a side effect.
            2. Kronos
              Kronos 8 November 2019 00: 38 New
              0
              Normal competition no more
          3. sniperino
            sniperino 22 November 2019 11: 17 New
            0
            Quote: Waddimm
            Why write this?
            This can be beneficial, for example, to paid provocateurs: to incite several Nazis, take screenshots and complain to shut down the site, or show everyone on the fake media "bloodthirsty Russian cannibals" ... Who knows.
            1. TokarevT
              TokarevT 22 November 2019 12: 22 New
              0
              Why can they write and say anything to the Russians, and the Russians cannot answer them in the same way and in twofold?
              Why should Russians constantly look around and be afraid even of the thought of wanting the destruction and death of their enemies?
  3. Sergey39
    Sergey39 6 November 2019 18: 26 New
    +4
    "How big is its role in American geopolitics?"
    Tends to zero. The Germans will sooner or later bend their lords.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 6 November 2019 18: 37 New
      -2
      To bend bent? hi
      1. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 6 November 2019 18: 54 New
        +4
        Quote: Captive
        To bend bent? hi

        The arc can be bent into a ring. :)
        1. Prisoner
          Prisoner 6 November 2019 18: 55 New
          +3
          Reasonably. winked Even in a spiral you can wind with some agility. laughing
          1. Avis-bis
            Avis-bis 6 November 2019 19: 04 New
            +1
            Quote: Captive
            Even in a spiral you can wind with some agility. laughing

            This is the next stage after the ring, the world is becoming more complicated ... :) Although, they may crumple.
        2. Geo⁣
          Geo⁣ 6 November 2019 23: 30 New
          0
          In the ram's horn
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 6 November 2019 22: 19 New
      +5
      Quote: Sergey39
      "How big is its role in American geopolitics?"
      Tends to zero. The Germans will sooner or later bend their lords.

      The time gap between "late" or "early" can drag on for more than a decade, which Poland is trying to take advantage of, realizing that in the current decade it is a beloved mattress wife, bringing multibillion-dollar lawsuits against Germany for damage caused to Poland in the Second World War, forgetting about the fact that significant territories that Poland now owns were torn away from the same Germany. Mattresses Poland will be needed for anyone as long as the United States is nurturing an interest in eliminating its European economic rival, which could become even stronger if it uses the GDP proposal announced in 2007 - "Economic cooperation from Lisbon to Vladivostok", which the United States cannot allow a priori. To counteract this plan, the US is building a belt of worthless (from an economic point of view) Baltic countries, Poland and Ukraine, which, being completely dependent on the whims of the "hegemon", will become a natural barrier between the countries of old Europe and Russia, and therefore Poland in the near foreseeable future for the United States will always have a value greater than zero. All the European countries of the old format are well aware of this, and therefore they periodically shoot out statements that sanctions against Poland may follow from their side. Bismarck was right when he called Poland the hyena of Europe.
  4. svp67
    svp67 6 November 2019 18: 30 New
    +8
    There is no need to "demonize" Trump, he is still a businessman, not a politician, and therefore, at any moment he is ready to "dump" "unprofitable assets" ...
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 November 2019 18: 33 New
    0
    The United States needs Poland for Russophobia, as well as its proximity to Russian borders allows the United States to use Poland as a battering ram in case of war on the continent.
  6. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 6 November 2019 18: 34 New
    0
    Today, Poland’s foreign debt is $ 352 billion.

    Here it is the price of Polish reforms, despite the fact that many Poles have also been dumped into EU countries. And who should? If the EU, that is, Germany, then they will pay with it the lands torn away from Germany after the Second World War in favor of Poland. As compensation for such alignment Poland may ask the Germans to assist in the return of their borders in the framework of 1939. They can agree on that, if they haven’t already agreed.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 6 November 2019 18: 58 New
      +2
      Poland may ask the Germans to assist in the return of their borders in the framework of 1939.

      You mean before or after September 17th, 1939? If "after", then the Germans will definitely be "for". If "before", then it seems to me that "Baba Yaga will be against" (c).
      1. Sky strike fighter
        Sky strike fighter 6 November 2019 19: 13 New
        -2
        I meant the so-called Eastern Crescent of Poland before the Soviet Union entered Poland after the German attack on it.
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 6 November 2019 19: 20 New
          +3
          It is unlikely that the Germans do not suffer from philanthropy and they do not need excess hemorrhoid due to Polish Wishlist. Rather, by historical inertia, they would prefer to organize another section.
          Although, all this is a reflection aloud ...
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 6 November 2019 18: 35 New
    +4
    As you know, Washington decided to use YPG to patrol the territories of oil facilities in Syria.
    Well, they will replace the Kurds with the Poles, for the Country of the Great American Lakes there is no difference between the Kurds, Poles, Balts. All of them are needed in order to go ahead of the Januses in the attack. There is a good saying to this: "Eat manure together, and pies separately."
  8. NF68
    NF68 6 November 2019 18: 35 New
    +1
    But who will "buy" it, Poland To? In Europe, they have long known what kind of miracle state it is.
  9. Prisoner
    Prisoner 6 November 2019 18: 36 New
    +5
    "Today, Polish hopes are" strengthened "- primarily by reports that" the US did not abandon the Kurds. "As you know, Washington decided to use YPG to patrol the territories of oil-bearing facilities in Syria .." (c) what I wonder how many times you need to fuck the Kurds so that they understand that they have them?
  10. Sky strike fighter
    Sky strike fighter 6 November 2019 18: 40 New
    0
    At the same time, Poland openly stated that they were hoping for an "American interest in relations with Warsaw." The general message: the Kurds are not in NATO, we are in NATO, because for the United States we have more weight, which means that the Americans will not do as Poland as they did with the Kurds.

    Poland is like a little man. Always dependent on someone. He relies on someone's help, not on himself. But after all, the rescue of drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves.
    1. Prisoner
      Prisoner 6 November 2019 18: 58 New
      +3
      With such an eternal addiction, they would diminish their ambition. Maybe they would become normal people. And they just can’t come to terms with the fact that they are ordinary people, not titans.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 6 November 2019 19: 06 New
        +3
        This is a good wish, reduce the ambition, add reason?
        No, they don’t understand and they won’t listen ... they will nostolgize when their right to VETO, they plug everything and everything ..... but, love is gone, the tomatoes wilted.
        1. Sky strike fighter
          Sky strike fighter 6 November 2019 19: 18 New
          +1
          Poland’s problems are that they live in greatness long gone in the past and therefore they will not be able to adapt to life in the future. They are nostalgic for VETO, but do nothing in the present, so that they have this VETO in the future, and not in the past.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 6 November 2019 19: 22 New
            +3
            Do not forget, respect the past, but move forward, it must be able to .... many could not! Very much in vain, by the way.
  11. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 6 November 2019 18: 57 New
    +2
    Still, if I were a politician, I would try to reassure the Polish authorities, Poland is a star in the harem of America, and Poland’s language is too enveloping, not only from its Ukrainian neighbors, from which some troubles come, but because Trump then he didn’t come — nothing — an elderly gentleman could simply have gout, or how many people still happen after seventy.
    1. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 6 November 2019 19: 25 New
      +1
      Poland is a star in the harem of America

      What is its stardom? I would understand your words about Germany yet, but about Poland, which is not much better than the Baltic states, you will excuse me.
      and Poland’s language is too painfully enveloping

      Is this what? Poland or Poles? This is if you are talking about the harem.
  12. rocket757
    rocket757 6 November 2019 19: 01 New
    +1
    The "haberdasher" was pounded when the "cardinal" of another, similar, lowered in ..... in short there, down.
    After all, nothing new, everything in the world is repeated once, again and many more, many times.
  13. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 6 November 2019 19: 09 New
    +1
    First, we have one title, then the author switches to economics. And she does not understand anything in it.

    Well, why such propaganda articles without any content or analysis, I do not understand.

    1. 50% of debt from GDP is good at a time when all countries are in debt like silk.
    2. Poland is a large factory in Germany and its economy is growing at the highest pace and the standard of living of the population as well.
    3. Already with 2020 the Poles are planning a minimum wage of 980 euros.

    Before spitting on your Polish friends, I want to ask the author if she would like to compare your economy with Polish indicators and then write all sorts of rubbish. After all, you can learn something from the enemies. And while discussing the Poles, your standard of living will go to the fields of Ethiopia and you will have to return Stalin, in a hurry.
    1. lev1759
      lev1759 6 November 2019 21: 07 New
      +1
      2. Poland is a large factory in Germany and its economy is growing at the highest pace and the standard of living of the population as well.
      3. Already with 2020 the Poles are planning a minimum wage of 980 euros.


      Don’t tell my slippers ... The only major production is the Gdańsk shipyards successfully poher. What is Poland producing now? Modern Poland is not a German factory, but a collar on the neck of the European Union. Yes, the Polish economy is developing steadily, but only due to EU subsidies of about 10 lard per year. In 2022, these subsidies will be discontinued. What will the development come from? Due to plastic apples? Which no one wants to buy?
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 7 November 2019 00: 39 New
        +2
        Poland is not a German factory, but a collar around the neck of the European Union.


        Dear, does religion interfere with reading? The Poles entered the club of developed countries two months ago, which we and you still cannot do. 586 billion dollars of GDP on apples? And so the Russian PPP favorite of 1.2 trillion dollars. Why are you white-fed? While you are building yachts to the oligarchs, the distance to the Poles is to you like to the moon. Call me when your minimum wage becomes 1000 Euro, because UTB is already waiting for Poles in 2020.

        EU subsidies of about 10 lard per year.


        First, not subsidies but programs. Second, not ten lard, but 65 billion over a period of about five years.

        In 2022, these subsidies will be discontinued.


        NO, will not be terminated. FOR THE FIRST TIME I WRITE! Read the pancake site of the European Commission, do not read Soloviev TV. Fall to 15-20%, that's all. Blind or what? It is written in black on white in 20 languages ​​that, how much and who will receive it.
        1. Local from the Volga
          Local from the Volga 7 November 2019 03: 33 New
          -5
          You, Bulgarian fool, go pick mushrooms in the forest so as not to die of hunger! Together with my Poles buddies!
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 7 November 2019 09: 59 New
            +2
            Together with my Poles buddies!


            laughing True, there are no Poles among friends, but there are Russians, Americans, Germans, Australians, Greeks, Turks .... We interpret, drink beer - this is called having friends.

            Found that we are all exactly the same. Get out of your darkness and can understand it .... laughing

            Oh yes .... do not forget to throw the telly out the window. Helps a lot.
  14. knn54
    knn54 6 November 2019 19: 11 New
    +2
    Poland can be saved by a single-field oil or gas ...
  15. Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 November 2019 19: 11 New
    +3
    Poland ranks 21st in the world in terms of GDP.
    The share of industry in GDP is 33%.
    By GDP per capita, 13th place in the world.
    In general, the performance is quite good.
  16. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 6 November 2019 21: 11 New
    +2
    Oh, these Poles.
    They were clairvoyant panas, now they have slipped to the level of third-rate concubines, wagtails, with fear, as if Big White Bwana would not leave them)
  17. L-39NG
    L-39NG 6 November 2019 22: 18 New
    0
    No matter what comments, then luminaries. Lavrov was not standing near. However, it has not been seen for a long time.
  18. Tank hard
    Tank hard 6 November 2019 22: 33 New
    0
    Trump, using his well-known thesis that “from them to the United States seven to eight thousand miles”, can frankly sell Poland along with its small-town interests.

    It is good to... repeat
  19. nnz226
    nnz226 7 November 2019 11: 58 New
    0
    These psheki fools have forgotten their own history! Where did they get the idea that in an armed conflict, Western "democracies" will "fit" for them ??? 01 September 1939 taught them nothing ??? Strongly they came to the aid of "allies" like England and France ???
  20. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 7 November 2019 21: 18 New
    +1
    Alexei, thanks for the article. Good questions asked. The Saudis and the UAE, for example, have already seen their sight. African countries also figured out who to work with ...
  21. Kronos
    Kronos 8 November 2019 00: 41 New
    0
    To the campaign about the collapse of the United States - Ukraine added about Poland?