Two RTOs of the 22800 Karakurt project launched in Feodosia

Two small missile ships (RTOs) of the 22800 Karakurt project were launched without wide publicity at the More shipyard in Feodosia. According to the bmpd blog, both ships will be completed afloat at the Pella Leningrad Shipyard.

RTOs "Kozelsk" towed to the "Pella"

On October 9 at the Shipyard “More” the 22800 project Kozelsk was launched. The October 17 ship was tugged off by inland waterways to the Pella parent plant, where it will be completed and tested. The second RTO Okhotsk was launched on October 29 and is currently being prepared for towing to Pella, where it will also be completed.

RTO "Kozelsk" (laid out as "Storm") of the 22800 project, is the lead ship of this class, laid down at the Ship "Ship" 10 on May 2016. The first serial RTO "Okhotsk" was laid in Feodosia on 17 on March 2017 of the year. The second serial MRK "Whirlwind" was laid on December 19 2017 of the year, currently under construction.

In total, the Pella shipyard received a contract for the construction of seven Project 22800 small missile ships, four of which were decided to be built at the Pella shipyard, and three at the More shipyard in Feodosia. All the ships of the series, except the first two, are equipped with the Pantsir-M anti-aircraft missile-gun complex (ZRPK). At the head RTO "Mytishchi" and the first serial "Sovetsk", which have already become part of the Baltic fleet, The Pantsir-M air defense system was not installed, they are used 30-mm artillery mounts AK-630.

RTOs of this project have a length of 67 meters, a width of 11 meters and a draft of 4 meters. Displacement - about 800 tons, cruising range - up to 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days. The main armament is one UKKSK (universal ship complex) 3X14 missile launcher on the 8 KR Caliber, one 76-mm AK-176MA gun mount, ZRAK Panzir-M, two 14.5-mm or 12,7-mm machine-gun mounts MTTPU.

Comments

[Lord of the Sith]

Here is another photo

[Romario_Argo]

in the future, it is possible to build MPC (small anti-submarine ships) on the basis of these RTOs by adding a retractable wing-mounted hull as for minesweepers of the 12700 ave.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Romario_Argo

it is possible to build IPC (small anti-submarine ships) on the basis of these RTOs

Corvettes of the project 20380 are now the real IPC. It will not be possible to make a full-fledged IPC from "Karakurt", the displacement will not be enough.

[Romario_Argo]

It will not be possible to make a full-fledged MPK from "Karakurt", the displacement will not be enough.

you probably have a comparison with the IPC, etc. 1124 where the displacement is 900-1100 tons
RTO pr.22800 = 800 t. TRSC pr.12700 = 800-900 t. IPC pr.1331 = 860 t.
as an option, the MPC is generally desirable in a fiberglass case
or even on the basis of a minesweeper pr. 12700 Alexandrite - adding PU under the PLURA Caliber

[Serg65]

Quote: Romario_Argo

IPC pr.1331

Parhimy is essentially under-IMC!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Romario_Argo

you probably have a comparison with the IPC, etc. 1124 where the displacement is 900-1100 tons

Modern full-fledged IPC is a corvette with a helicopter.

[ushakorv]

You looked at the input)) And then the news about it

[smart ass]

I think the ship is very well armed for its 800 tons

[petrol cutter]

And where do I apologize to you for the second photo, and even from that angle? Given that photo and video shooting at the factory is prohibited ...

[Vladimir1155]

in general, it is wonderful in that it can be driven across the rivers through GDP, which can even be based in Tuapse, that is small and remote, that the series is large and inexpensive. Not that a terrible, unnecessary aircraft carrier is bulky (and there’s nowhere to repair it and eats millions of rubles) expensive and vulnerable like Karakurt, Take all corvettes and frigates to the oceans, and equip all the seas with Karakurt PLO and MRK. And the aircraft carrier to sell to India or China!

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Two small missile ships (MRK) of project 22800 "Karakurt" were launched without much publicity at the shipyard "More" in Feodosia.

Because Pella does not want to be subject to US sanctions. Pella also builds many civil vessels with foreign equipment (for example, Caterpillar power plants are installed on tugs). Pella has her own facilities in Germany. Why does she need wide publicity.

According to the bmpd blog, both ships will be completed afloat at the Leningrad Shipyard Pella.

Pella has rented the Sea, which ends on 31.12.2019. Therefore, it is customary to drag the buildings to St. Petersburg and calmly, using the experience gained, complete the construction and hand over their orders with much less problems.

[™ Ramzes ™]

What's behind these conclusions? It seems that the production and modernization of the Zubrov are being resumed at the facilities of the Sea. Together with "Karakurt" there is not enough capacity.

[parkello]

Bravo good MRK. and his seaworthiness is impressive

[Chit]

Each is impressed with something of its own.
One is impressed by the commissioning of an aircraft carrier.
Another - MRK.

[parkello]

not commissioning, but seaworthiness. Do you know how to read or just write? I wrote there in Russian SEAFOOD ... and what do you understand, this is your problem.

[rocket757]

Fleet near sea zone ... something like that.
If, as an element of a network system for monitoring and protecting coastal waters, it will work for itself ... and far-reaching plans, it is not at all clear what will be and how.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Karakurt is not a fleet of the near sea zone, it is primarily our way of circumventing the INF Treaty.

These cowboys are rocket carriers with a range of 2600 km. They will not even have to go to sea in the event of a conflict, they will directly hit the berths from missile defense systems, airfields, a bridge, fuel and lubricant depots and military equipment of NATO countries.

Directly from the pier, they will be charged and again at the bases, warehouse, NATO bridges, and so on until the white flag is hoisted.

Not bad idea. Only now the United States withdrew from the INF Treaty and the relevance of such ships came to naught.

But until the ground OTRK, NATO countries did not deploy these RTOs in Europe to themselves an argument and a deterrent.

But the Iskander with a rocket of 2600 km already needs to be done.

[Potato]

Sorry, but you do not understand the question. Do not try to give the MRC as a carrier of strategic missile weapons.

[Ivan Osipov]

And who can prohibit the Caliber missile and have a nuclear warhead?

[Potato]

Even the artillery had nuclear warheads. And what - are they also now in the strategic enrollment?

[Ivan Osipov]

Enumerate wherever you want, but an MRK can wipe off any capital of any European country or eight at once with one missile. It is a fact.

[Pavel57]

As long as there is an agreement with the states not to convert sea-based cruise missiles into nuclear ones. But for now ...
In addition, what rank should the captain of a ship with nuclear missiles have?

[brr1]

Quote: Pavel57

As long as there is an agreement with the states not to convert sea-based cruise missiles into nuclear ones. But for now ...
In addition, what rank should the captain of a ship with nuclear missiles have?

Capyadrang

[Serg65]

Quote: Potato

Sorry

And you, young man, understand the question?

Quote: Potato

strategic missile carrier

Someone said that RTOs are a carrier of strategic weapons?

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No one gives the RTOs as a strategic complex, it is a marine operational-tactical missile complex with a missile launch range of 2600 km, I think there is also an option with a nuclear warhead.

[rocket757]

Mobile platform of cruise missiles ..... it is clear that they have enough range for the gamer to "comb", and the launch from the pier is attractive because it is possible to recharge the installations !!! But, if anything, the missile attack will begin and end quickly, if it will be a really serious conflict. You will hardly need to recharge.
Not a supporter, I do not believe in a limited, small-town conflict with a serious adversary .... everything can happen quickly and .... in short, a complete armahide!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

If rocket fire begins, then our naval bases are covered from land by air defense at several levels, including the ships themselves have their own air defense.

So, we’ll fight back and break them, it’s not enough.

[tacet]

Honestly, I did not expect that the production of ships in Crimea would be so quickly established. Pleases.

[rocket757]

A sudden, specifically massive shelling can not repel anyone! Only thin out, extinguish the first wave and send a devastating reply!
And then the ARMAGIDIAN! That’s all.
Although we do not want to admit it, but we will "fly" in every direction .... we are in our Christian PARADISE, and the adversary is in every direction.

[Potato]

Ships are very good and necessary - congratulations to the shipbuilders!) Well done - decent work and excellent result

[Ivan Osipov]

Respect to the Theodosians! Well done!

[Charik]

From Feodosia to Peter pull?

[Dymik]

Caliber M is already flying at 4500 km !!!

[7,62x54]

What can I say, handsome. They join the family, so to speak.

[Piramidon]

According to the bmpd blog, both ships will be completed afloat at the Leningrad Shipyard Pella.

Will they be distilled from Crimea to St. Petersburg, and then back?

[Old26]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Karakurt is not a fleet of the near sea zone, it is primarily our way of circumventing the INF Treaty.

These cowboys are rocket carriers with a range of 2600 km. They will not even have to go to sea in the event of a conflict, they will directly hit the berths from missile defense systems, airfields, a bridge, fuel and lubricant depots and military equipment of NATO countries.

Directly from the pier, they will be charged and again at the bases, warehouse, NATO bridges, and so on until the white flag is hoisted.

Not bad idea. Only now the United States withdrew from the INF Treaty and the relevance of such ships came to naught.

But until the ground OTRK, NATO countries did not deploy these RTOs in Europe to themselves an argument and a deterrent.

But the Iskander with a rocket of 2600 km already needs to be done.

What nonsense, comrade, you write. How do you imagine firing such a ship from the base at a target at a distance of 2500 km? This is not the north of Iran, not Iraq and Syria. They will have to "cut for several hours through the territory of several NATO countries, which, unlike the situation with the shooting from the Caspian Sea, will bring these" Calibers "to hell

Quote: Ivan Osipov

And who can prohibit the Caliber missile and have a nuclear warhead?

Nobody. And who will let it pass through the territory of their countries? Or do you think that NATO countries will sit and watch the subsonic "caliber" flying by ???

Quote: Ivan Osipov

Enumerate wherever you want, but an MRK can wipe off any capital of any European country or eight at once with one missile. It is a fact.

Yeah! ShchAs. Only the calculation will stroke the wire and immediately erase it. Open any cartographic resource and see what and how religion already does not allow ???

Quote: Potato

Ships are very good and necessary - congratulations to the shipbuilders!) Well done - decent work and excellent result

Good ones! But first of all, these are carriers ANTI-RAPID MISSILES. For the number of such carriers is steadily decreasing and something must be compensated for. In essence, this is the reincarnation of a missile boat at a new technical level. No more. And do not make another super-wunderwaffe out of it

Quote: Dymik

Caliber M is already flying at 4500 km !!!

No on Seventy-Five Thousand Kilometers. Almost twice can circumnavigate the globe
What an idiotic mania. The president or defense minister does not have time to say anything, as it is already in service with the patriots.
It was announced that the DEVELOPMENT of the "Caliber-M" complex with a range of 4500 km has begun. Maybe in 3-4 years and find out about the test. As with Onyx-M. Work has just begun, and for some it already flies 800 km. Don't put the cart in front of the horse

Quote: Piramidon

According to the bmpd blog, both ships will be completed afloat at the Leningrad Shipyard Pella.

Will they be distilled from Crimea to St. Petersburg, and then back?

Well, it all depends on where they will be based. If at the Black Sea Fleet - then yes, back to Chernoye. If in the Baltic, they will remain there. if in the north - they will drive to the north

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

They will have to "cut for several hours through the territory of several NATO countries, which, unlike the situation with the shooting from the Caspian, will bring these" Calibers "to hell

In my nonsense you are now carrying)))

Here recently, several Hussite cruise missiles flew through several lines of American air defense and set fire to the largest refinery in Saudi Arabia.

As you can see, even Western air defense at least does not always save from cruise missiles.

Now imagine that there will be not 10 missiles, but a volley of 50-80 missiles. Moreover, after the Iskanders work out everything that will threaten us within a radius of 480 km.

Tired to shoot down.

[Grits]

Quote: Old26

Well, it all depends on where they will be based. If at the Black Sea Fleet - then yes, back to Chernoye. If in the Baltic, they will remain there. if in the north - they will drive to the north

Fortunately, there are such opportunities. Thanks to the ancestors who connected the seas with a canal system in Russia.

[Grits]

Quote: Old26

And who will let it pass through the territory of their countries? Or do you think that NATO countries will sit and look at the subsonic "calibers" flying by ???

Nevertheless, it would be interesting to analyze the air defense capabilities of the cover countries of Western Europe. Specifically, what systems, where and with which performance characteristics are available in Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, the Baltic states? Than and how they will bring down Caliber. And if it is not Caliber, but Iskander, how much will this sieve increase?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Old26

cut for several hours through the territory of several NATO countries, which, unlike the situation with the shooting from the Caspian Sea, will bring these "Calibers" to hell

You are talking about ... Only these countries will become the primary goals, depending on the proximity to the borders of the Russian Federation. Let's say the first are psheks, then the Bundes, macronia, etc. And so on ascending, because in the case of "classic" databases, all the tastiest things with different ranges will be used. Again, as you progress, the depth of the lesion increases. Something like this...

[xomaNN]

A good scheme of cooperation between two shipyards! In Feodosia, hull and general ship (partly) work, and the filling with instruments and weapons, fine-tuning in the Okolopiterskaya "Pella". There is already enough experience and competence. And the Crimea is starting to pay off.

[Terran]

It's quite the opposite. When Crimea returned, the question became who would be the owner of the plant, and temporarily transferred to the ownership of the Crimean government, but it was looking for someone to transfer it to. PELLA reacted the fastest (Tsaturov, with all the others, must be given credit, the grip is still the same), and everything was "agreed" with the government of Crimea. Also, it was clear that to support the trousers of the Crimean factories in view of breaking old contracts, sanctions, and other transition costs, they would receive a state order. Immediately, a decision was born, initiated by PELLA, they say we have a plant, we have a state order for the continuation of the series, and we will build them there. It was only at that time that the "revolutionary democracy" and the trade union of the plant were still operating, and at the general meeting of employees who elected the new director of PELLE, a lapel was given, since no one then heard anything about her, they thought almost a one-day office, everyone wanted to surrender to Almaz (because they worked with him in Soviet times, and not even knowing that now they are already different separate companies), or at the Alekseev Central Design Bureau of the SEC. If PELLA's management had even a small idea of ​​people's mentality and an analysis of moods, it would have been worth a penny PR campaign and would have been covered in chocolate. Especially against, of course, were the "women's collectives of pre-retirement age" who simply "went to work", and also planted flowers in the offices and drank tea. Engineers-specialists and workers who were confident in themselves were on the drum, if only there were orders and work. But PELLA was persistent, as a compromise she received the plant on lease, with the aim of further obtaining ownership for which she carried out a good modernization, also received an additional series of state orders for RTOs with the obligation to build on the Sea. And then the "wedding" did not take place ... As a result, PELLA brought its workers and hired partly local teams only for fixed-term contracts. With this kind of "joint work", "mutual dislike" ended up. Now the shipyard is looking forward to the end of the lease term and the start of construction of hydrofoils with relief, and PELLA is also with the same relief (albeit some disappointment) for the completion of the remote construction of "its" orders ...

[xomaNN]

If this info is reliable, then
Is there really not enough will to establish the management and operation of the Crimea shipyards with a huge investment of federal money?

[petrol cutter]

Well, in general ... Comrade described almost everything correctly.

[Major48]

The most important thing is that the "More" plant started working, not everything was ruined by the Ukrainian occupation.

[Elephant]

And what is not ruined by the Ukrainian occupation, ruined by the bureaucracy, incompetent and disinterested in the industrial development of the region officials.

[Evil 55]

Well, yes, I don’t envy the crew that will serve on the MRK with the name "Kozelsk" .. The sailor will rename them at a stroke ..

[Livonetc]

Are you a principled boot?

[brr1]

Quote: Evil 55

Well, yes, I don’t envy the crew that will serve on the MRK with the name "Kozelsk" .. The sailor will rename them at a stroke ..

Well, they "" eat beer and will tolerate it.

[Sapsan136]

What is the use, if they cannot finish building them on the spot ... Dragging them to St. Petersburg is far and expensive, and their completion at the St. Petersburg shipyards will slow down the completion of the ships under construction in St. Petersburg ... In general, a mess!

[Elephant]

They could have built ships in Feodosia on a full cycle and not towed to St. Petersburg for completion. You can bring new equipment to the "Sea", but there is enough skilled labor in Feodosia.

[petrol cutter]

The point is absolutely not in equipment but in engines and rental periods. * Intro Pella * - whose employee I was until recently, expired the lease of production capacities several years earlier than the engines arrived.
To use the main assembly shops stupidly as a garage for three ships, it will be too chic. Moreover, she pays us a rental of 8-10 lemons per month. Who needs such garage expenses?
It would take a long time to explain this. TAM has already decided everything and everything is already happening.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

They write that "Okhotsk" and "Whirlwind" will not have time to overtake the "Pella" until the end of navigation, and they both will winter somewhere in the region of Rostov-on-Don.

[Arthur 85]

Very well! But will they go to Leningrad bypassing Spain, or along the Volga?

[petrol cutter]

... * The second serial RTO "Vikhr" was laid down on December 19, 2017, and is currently under construction. *
No. Building it does not go. It is built and is preparing for rolling out of the third workshop on a slip. For descent and sending to St. Petersburg. Like the previous two.
After the new year, judging by all sources - * Intro Pella * in the NW * Sea * should no longer be. Since we have nowhere to build our orders.
It seems as if * Rostec * came to the plant from the first day and now it will be in charge of the enterprise. There was such an official decree of the president.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ The Sea was given to the Kalashnikov concern (part of Rostec), which has been under sanctions since 2014. And by the way, at "Pella" the outfitting embankment is packed to capacity. "MRK" Odintsovo "(former" Shkval "), MRK" Burya ", 2 fishermen and OIS" Ilmen "for the GUGI.

[petrol cutter]

News for today's '17.00 .22800 Moscow time - the third XNUMX poked his nose out of the superstructure workshop. If they work on Saturday, then on Monday we will watch him on the slip in all its glory.

[Rzzz]

Something gon 'some. On October 9 they launched, on the 17th they delivered to Pella. There are about 4300 kilometers of travel, 35 locks. This is physically impossible! Even if he was taken in tow right after the descent, without any tests and preparation.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

October 29, 2019 MRK "Kozelsk" was still in the Saratov reservoir in the Samara region

[Rzzz]

This is believable! This is somewhere in the middle of the road.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Journalists often confuse what to take from them.

[Deathmaker]

I am personally pleased that jobs have appeared in Feodosia. So people will have money for a living.