US military called "socialist organization"

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Military personnel in the United States can in some way be considered a socialist community, says Liesel Kershul, columnist for The Nation.





Despite the fact that the United States often tends to confuse the concepts of “socialism” and “welfare state”, it cannot be denied that certain categories of citizens have generous state support. These can be fully attributed to the military, since they enjoy the many benefits that the authorities provide them.

In particular, we can mention the free or subsidized education (both secondary and higher) for soldiers, officers and members of their families; similarly, healthcare; shops with special prices; infant care services and much more. Apart from guaranteed salaries, indexed in accordance with inflation, as well as pensions.

In the aggregate of these factors, it is the military who look very prosperous against the background of the average American level, being one of the few representatives of the "dying" middle class. At the same time, ordinary US citizens are forced to pay for all these needs from their own pockets.

The numerous benefits for people in uniform and members of their families, the author notes, are of a kind of socialist nature, although American servicemen themselves refuse this very “socialism” to all other categories of citizens. The author considers this approach to be “hypocrisy”, urging society to a more open and honest discussion about the deserving privileges.
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  1. +1
    5 November 2019 18: 27
    Exactly .. This "community" denies others, not so chosen and exclusive, not only in social guarantees, but also in life.
    1. +15
      5 November 2019 19: 09
      Quote: 210ox
      Exactly .. This "community" denies others, not so chosen and exclusive, not only in social guarantees, but also in life.

      It's all about ordinary envy.
      For.
      Point one - almost any US citizen can join the American army
      Second point. The reason for the existence of these "privileges" is not the "socialist character of the army" but that the military not only do very dangerous work, but also that the civil liberties of the military are seriously limited.

      By the way, we also have a lot of such "champions of justice". And not only the military do not allow them to live normally.
      1. +5
        5 November 2019 20: 14
        By the way, we also have a lot of such "champions of justice".

        Full of such. At the same time, they dream of depriving the military of all privileges, but at the same time they refuse to fight for privileges for themselves.
        In general, by principle, the worse the better.
        1. +5
          5 November 2019 20: 40
          Quote: glory1974
          At the same time, they dream of depriving the military of all privileges

          It's not just the military. "Why he earns so much in the north is unfair," "why he retires from his mine so early is not fair." And so on.
          1. +3
            5 November 2019 23: 39
            In the north, they don’t earn much. It is a myth.
            1. -1
              6 November 2019 09: 17
              This is not a myth. Otherwise, the depressed regions were not so active in these north regions.
              1. -1
                6 November 2019 21: 44
                They have no choice.
                1. 0
                  6 November 2019 22: 27
                  Quote: Pereira
                  They have no choice.

                  There is. Moscow, summer season. Those whose arms grow out of their shoulders make good money.
            2. 0
              6 November 2019 10: 53
              Yes you are right! one gets the impression that they (the northern ones) are not paying us. only on paper!
      2. +6
        5 November 2019 23: 34
        Quote: Spade
        By the way, we also have a lot of such "champions of justice". And not only the military do not allow them to live normally.

        For such "sampling-sampling" there has long been a definition - a sociopath. A particular case of this deviation is based precisely on envy. I had a chance with such characters (an apple tree with a wormy apple - a family, eprst) to live thirty years under one roof, in a communal apartment.
  2. +4
    5 November 2019 18: 33
    Something became frequent articles on the topic "And what about the Americans."
    1. +3
      5 November 2019 19: 00
      Quote: knn54
      Something became frequent articles on the topic "And what about the Americans."

      Yes, there is something to see ... Yes
      1. +4
        5 November 2019 19: 51
        Well, how not to recall the classics ...
        1. +4
          5 November 2019 23: 41

          Major Yurik thanks for the tip
          He changed the heating in the house, he brought out the old radiators to the lobby. They stole it at night. Sinned on gypsies. And where they ended up - in New York! Now it’s clear who attached their legs. I’ll go to the district police officer in the morning. Let him understand winked
  3. +2
    5 November 2019 18: 34
    To the author, write to yourself above the door "WHO DOES NOT WANT TO FEED HIS ARMY, THAT WILL FEED ANOTHER" !!!
    1. +5
      5 November 2019 18: 38
      The main thing here is not to overfeed. Then they will not take a step for free. It is necessary to maintain a balance.
      1. 0
        5 November 2019 18: 41
        Prisoner hi for relics and vegetables, the main thing is that requests are not sky-high. ..
  4. +10
    5 November 2019 18: 47
    Socialist Armed Forces of America laughing
    And that's all: "imperialism, imperialism ..." wassat
    1. +5
      5 November 2019 18: 59
      Israel's Communist Armed Forces sounds good too wassat good
    2. +2
      5 November 2019 19: 07
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Socialist Armed Forces of America laughing
      And that's all: "imperialism, imperialism ..." wassat

      Pralna, Alexey! The main thing here is to dress, put on shoes, teach a business, feed and not mix up in a military card ..... laughing
      1. +3
        5 November 2019 19: 24
        Now imagine that the guy will graduate from a military school, make a career and become, for example, army commander. And then Western intelligence needs to transliterate his last name ... smile
        1. +1
          5 November 2019 19: 56
          The problems of the Sheriff Indians do not care.
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          2. 0
            5 November 2019 21: 47
            The Sheriff of Windspeakers will have to watch. wink
        2. +1
          6 November 2019 06: 03
          Quote: dzvero
          Now imagine that the guy will graduate from a military school, make a career and become, for example, army commander. And then Western intelligence needs to transliterate his name.


    3. 0
      6 November 2019 01: 34
      ... or so: Armed forces of the Socialist States of America (USA).
      "Imperialism - as the highest stage of capitalism" (VI Lenin PSS vol. 27. Ed. 5).
      1. 0
        6 November 2019 04: 23
        Quote: iouris
        ... or so: Armed forces of the Socialist States of America (USA).
        "Imperialism - as the highest stage of capitalism" (VI Lenin PSS vol. 27. Ed. 5).


        Norway has shown that this is not so .....
        built capitalism from capitalism without blood, terror, executions without destruction, Ilyich was mistaken.
  5. 0
    5 November 2019 19: 02
    This is all comprehensible, but why is the Negro dressed in an Olympic sweatshirt, and all the rest in T-shirts? Until they have uniformity they cannot be called socialist.
    1. 0
      5 November 2019 19: 05
      Johnny Theon is not wearing an Olympic sweatshirt, she has bonded to his head lol
    2. +1
      6 November 2019 09: 51
      there is not only a black man in an olympic jacket
  6. +2
    5 November 2019 19: 05
    And our army is not a "socialist organization"? And retire earlier, and a bunch of benefits, and a military mortgage, and besides, the salary of an ordinary is more than the average salary in the regions, well, preferences for relatives ?!
    1. +2
      5 November 2019 19: 09
      We have - almost communist!)
  7. 0
    5 November 2019 19: 28
    In all countries of the world there are people who shout to the whole world that the military are no different from ordinary citizens and that it is necessary to "average out" with ordinary workers. True, they don't want to try on "military clothes" for some reason))) ... Go to Madame Liesel and serve your Motherland - defend the American dream in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. This proposal also applies to our Russian "outrages" with the difference that it is necessary to defend Russia, otherwise they will immediately write to me that I, an old communist, agitate the patriots of the Russian Federation to enlist in the US socialist army (it can be abbreviated as SA / a), and not to our Russian. ...
    1. +4
      5 November 2019 19: 45
      I want to join the army of the Russian Federation. But I am not fit for military service because of my health - by sight - myopia - from school. What to do?
      1. +1
        5 November 2019 20: 12
        I am not fit for military service due to my health - from my sight - myopia - from school. What to do?

        Do a surgery. There is a decision of the Supreme Court, according to which the refusal to enter the flight school after the operation to get rid of myopia was recognized as unlawful.
        1. +3
          5 November 2019 20: 26
          Unfortunately, I already have a military card with a category, and I do not have time to go on a call to go. But under the contract, I will not pass the competition with such documents. I'm not just a little shortsighted ...
          1. +1
            5 November 2019 20: 43
            The appeal in our country from 18 to 27 years. They do not take a contract without urgency.
            A medical examination is carried out every year, in connection with a possible cure.
  8. +3
    5 November 2019 19: 52
    Despite the fact that the United States often tends to confuse the concepts of “socialism” and “welfare state”, it cannot be denied that certain categories of citizens have generous state support. These can be fully attributed to the military, since they enjoy the many benefits that the authorities provide them.

    The browser is mistaken. Because he does not know.

    The generous state support of certain categories of citizens is not directly related to socialism. Separate categories live well just under capitalism. And socialism implies, at a minimum, not to single out so strongly certain categories of citizens.

    PS. The concepts of "socialist" and "social" a) are confused not only in the US and b) are as similar as "capitalist" and "capital".
  9. +1
    5 November 2019 19: 53
    That's right. The army should be workers and peasants (farmers?), And necessarily Red! And in America, too, not to mention sinners about us!
  10. 0
    5 November 2019 21: 41
    Moreover! Transnational corporations within themselves have completely communist methods of production. This is when individual by-products and spare parts are transferred from country to country t.s. without cash security. Well, or exclusively for a nominal fee.
  11. +1
    5 November 2019 22: 04
    Although the United States often tends to confuse the concepts of “socialism” and “welfare state”

    Well, there is also Sweden and Switzerland, and Austria and Australia are confused, so that's okay ...
  12. 0
    5 November 2019 22: 10
    Socialism is the lowest stage of communism, so it’s correct to say that the armed forces are the first and so far the only communist structure in the United States. Trump will have to decide: if he loves the army, then he must also love communism.
  13. +1
    6 November 2019 01: 37
    Quote: Pereira
    In the north, they don’t earn much. It is a myth.

    I can tell you exactly how much - the check-in is 2 months, the month is 70, But the truth is they are there at full security, so after 2 months 140. It is up to you whether this is a lot or not. Not enough for Moscow, but normal for me.
  14. +2
    6 November 2019 07: 27
    Hands off the warriors, Light! They bring peace and democracy to everyone! But it is not exactly.

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