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Abkhazia and South Ossetia. On the road to recognition?

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Quietly on the border


On October 9, the government of Abkhazia decided to lift restrictions on border crossing with Georgia. Thus, an important signal is sent to the Georgian authorities about Sukhum’s readiness for dialogue with Tbilisi and, most likely, also for the “official” development of economic relations with Georgia. It is unlikely that such a decision has not been agreed with Moscow.



Russian President Vladimir Putin and President of Abkhazia Raul Khadjimba


And shortly before that, within the framework of NATO, for the first time, they voiced the idea of ​​Georgia joining this block without Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

It seems that the West and Moscow are moving step by step towards a compromise acceptable to all on the issue of international recognition of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

Abkhazia and South Ossetia. On the road to recognition?


Former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who retains the status of a very influential politician in this bloc, in mid-September first spoke publicly - namely in Tbilisi - about the need to recognize the real independence of both Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Many Western media outlets regarded this as a “strategic sensation.”

In fact, a signal was sent from the West that Georgia’s claims to these already held countries are unlikely to find any real support. Such claims, by a number of signs, are akin to divorced claims of the Kuomintang Taiwan 50's - 70's to mainland China, which were won by the People's Socialist Revolution in 1949.

More specifically, Mr. Rasmussen said - we emphasize at the Euro-Atlantic Partnership conference in the Georgian capital:
“... if Georgia intends to become a future member of NATO, you must ensure the protection of national minorities. And start discussions: will it be acceptable for you to become a member of NATO without Abkhazia and South Ossetia. This decision is up to Georgia, after which NATO must be notified of the decision. ”


At the same time, the ex-secretary general of the block added that
"The separation of Abkhazia from South Ossetia was facilitated by the discriminatory policies of Georgia in these regions, and now we must reckon with the realities."


In Georgia, rushing to NATO, this proposal caused a flurry of negative emotions in its leadership and the pro-Western (prevailing) political circles of the country. But the “official” Western politicians clearly did not disavow Rasmussen's theses.

Which is not surprising if only because in 2014 the number of countries in the bloc whose companies established business contacts with Abkhazia did not exceed 10. And by the end of the fall of this year, this figure exceeded 20, according to the customs committee of Abkhazia. Among these countries, for example, Italy, France, Greece, Turkey, Belgium, Bulgaria, Hungary.

The latest data from the customs committee of Abkhazia (September 2019) are also characteristic: in its foreign trade turnover, the share of Russia reaches 65%. The remaining 35% falls on Turkey (11%), Italy (almost 4%), Moldova with Transnistria (3%), Brazil (almost 3%) and "other states (about 15%)." Moreover, in 2009, the share of foreign countries in this register, excluding the Russian Federation, did not exceed 15%.

Moreover, Georgia is most likely in the register of “other states”. Recall, for example, that the Georgian-Abkhazian commission on joint regulation of the operation of the border Inguri-hydroelectric power station still operates (60% of its electricity goes to Georgia, 40% to Abkhazia); Abkhaz authorities allowed 10 years ago the return of Georgian refugees to the border Gali region of Abkhazia.

According to a Human Rights Watch report from 15.07.2011,
“At the beginning of 1999, the Abkhaz authorities opened a return to the Gali district. Many families really began to return, at first leaving to spend the night on the Georgian side or spending only the warm season in the area to cultivate the land and look after their homes. ”


Steps towards


And as a reciprocal step, the Georgian side has been pursuing a policy of "peaceful reintegration" in relation to Sukhum and Tskhinval since the beginning of the 2010's. Providing primarily for the creation of free trade zones on both sides of the demarcation lines (that is, the borders of Abkhazia and South Ossetia with Georgia); the provision of medical and educational services to residents of these regions, including in their national language; easing restrictions on reciprocal trips.



These trade zones are already operating in the local border area, respectively, on both sides along the borders of the Leninogorsk district of South Ossetia and the Gali district with Georgia.

The point, of course, is not the “sympathy” of the West and Georgia for Abkhazia and South Ossetia, who more than have experienced the recent bloody aggression of the Georgian authorities, the consequences of which have not yet been completely eliminated. And the fact that Russia's allied relations with these countries significantly strengthen Russian geopolitical positions in the vast Black Sea-Caucasus region.

Moreover, for example, the Abkhazian coast of the Black Sea is a third of the length of the East Black Sea coast, and the southern border of South Ossetia is only 60 km from Tbilisi and, in addition, not far from Armenia, participating in pro-Russian blocs, that is, in the CSTO and EAEU. In addition, a small (only 1999 km) route passes through South Ossetia from 3, but nevertheless, part of the pipeline for Azerbaijani oil Baku-Tbilisi is the Georgian port of Supsa, from where it is transported to Western countries.

Note, up to 80% of the oil volume for this artery is extracted by Western companies. Obviously, the stable operation of this route is a strategic task of Western business and Western politicians. The leadership of the transnational consortium (AIOC), which manages the pipeline, has repeatedly stated that, contrary to the forecasts of the Georgian authorities, there are no and are not expected disruptions in its work in South Ossetian territory.

It is clear that ignoring all these realities is more expensive for yourself. And naturally, they force the West to at least contact Sukhum and Tskhinval, thereby recognizing the geopolitical role of Russia's allied relations with these countries. Which, in turn, paves the way for official international recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.


Russian President Vladimir Putin and President of South Ossetia Anatoly Bibilov


As a reflection of such tendencies, the point of view of the Polish expert Konrad Renkash expressed in the weekly magazine “Khrtal” (Warsaw) from October 3 can be quite regarded.
“After repelling the aggressions of Georgia, supported by the West, Abkhazia and South Ossetia with the help of Russia strengthened their independence. With the help of Russia, in the 1994 year, a final peace was achieved, and Abkhazia was able to grow stronger. Over the past decade, around 350 new hotel facilities, including those meeting the highest international standards, have appeared in the same Abkhazia. This is a promising, extremely interesting and calm country. ”


Regarding Abkhaz-Georgian relations, it is noted that
“Former Georgian refugees who now enjoy all cultural or educational rights were admitted to Abkhazia. There are other facts of some “warming” between Tbilisi and Sukhum. ”


At the same time, the Polish expert emphasizes that "Abkhazia will no longer be a" chip "in the" games "with Georgia." And unlike Russia, in Poland and, in general, in the West
“Somehow they forgot, to their own detriment, to support - unlike Moscow - the long-standing national liberation aspirations of Abkhazia, therefore,“ compensation ”is due to us from it. In the future, of course, it should take the form of recognition of the republic. ”


By all indications, the situation, albeit slowly, with zigzags, is moving towards official international recognition of the legitimacy of the sovereignty of South Ossetia and especially Abkhazia.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 November 2019 06: 33 New
    +3
    Well, the presence of the United States on the planet implies the existence of conflicts even within one state. So, the world will not be there for a long time. Confrontation is also unlikely, that is, the conflict will remain in limbo.
    1. Civil
      Civil 6 November 2019 07: 38 New
      14
      1. Abkhazians themselves do not pull their country. I have to contain Russia.
      2. Abkhazians will not go to the Georgians, because hostility in the Caucasus is eternal.
      3. Nobody recognizes Abkhazia - a matter of principle, the large countries that are solving their own problems with separatism.

      So we have a suitcase without a handle.

      1. South Ossetia cannot support itself either.
      2. There is a danger of separatism in North Ossetia due to the presence of South Ossetia.
      3. And here there will be a gradual merger into one republic.
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 6 November 2019 08: 07 New
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        РђР ± С ... Р ° Р · С ‹СЃР ° РјРё СЃРІРѕСЋ стрР° РЅСѓ РЅРµ тянут.

        I also think that small countries will always be "under someone." What's in the EU zone, what's on the territory of the disintegrated USSR. And if Germany is a peacemaker in the European Union, then on the territory of the USSR the Russian Federation will cool the "hot" ethnic confrontation. Maybe this is not even a military issue, but a purely economic issue for these small countries.

        Quote: Thrifty
        RЅR ° F »‡ Roes RoRμ RЎRORђ RЅR RїR °" ° F RЅRμS,Rμ RїRѕRґSЂR ° F · ° SѓRјRμRІR RμS, RЅR ° F "Roes RoRμ RєRѕRЅS ‡" P "RoRєS,RѕRІ RґR ° R¶Rμ RІRЅSѓS,SЂRo RѕRґRЅRѕRіRѕ RіRѕSЃSѓRґR ° рствР°.

        Р Р ° Р · деляй Рё РІР» Р ° ствуй. P “СЂР ° Р ± СЊ ресурсы. РќРёС ‡ его Р »РёРёЗ З РЅРѕРіРѕ; только Р ± РёР · нес.

        RI 90-Рµ РіРѕРґС ‹Р ± С‹ Р »Р ° тР° РєР ° СЏ РїРѕРіРѕРІРѕСЂРєР °:
        "Why buy a sugar factory when you can buy a director of a sugar factory"


        The division of countries under the influence of the states will continue, if the Russian Federation does not act as a counterbalance to this, gradually bringing these countries under its wing. Where the "hand of Moscow" will reach))) Here is not only the territory of the USSR, but also the Middle East with the same Syria.
        1. Vladimir16
          Vladimir16 6 November 2019 09: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Civil
          РђР ± С ... Р ° Р · С ‹СЃР ° РјРё СЃРІРѕСЋ стрР° РЅСѓ РЅРµ тянут.

          Discovered America!
          Georgians, Ukrainians, tribals, Macedonians, Serbs, Czechs, Bulgarians, Mongols, Jews, Iraqis, Saudis, a bunch of blacks .... - they all do not pull their own countries.
          They are all under empires.
          The EU is not independent either. NATO (read the USA) rules in Europe.

          Only empires have always been independent.

          But this "discovery" has nothing to do with this article.

          The question is with whom are Georgians and with whom are Abkhazians.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 6 November 2019 11: 44 New
            0
            Only two options are possible here: either several empires recognize each other's equal rights and peacefully divide the world, or one empire will re-honor the rest and will rule the world individually. Forever.
            1. d.olegov44
              d.olegov44 6 November 2019 18: 16 New
              0
              Quote: Basarev
              several empires recognize each other's equal rights and peacefully divide the world, or one empire will re-honor the rest and will single-handedly rule the world. Forever.


              To that, the United States and China are moving.
          2. Lelek
            Lelek 7 November 2019 13: 31 New
            0
            Quote: Vladimir16
            The question is with whom are Georgians and with whom are Abkhazians.

            hi
            Back in 1958, I was on vacation in Abkhazia. Obvious (let's put it mildly) hostility between Abkhazians and Georgians took place even though they lived in a single country. In general, Georgians treated Ossetians, Abkhazians, Adjarians and Kurds with slight contempt and were more "well-off" than the latter. The Caucasus is a delicate matter and I think the relations between these peoples of former Georgia have been preserved. With the prospect of Georgia-2 joining NATO, the hostility between nationalities will only intensify.
            1. nesvobodnaja
              nesvobodnaja 10 November 2019 00: 22 New
              +1
              Wow! Were on vacation in the 58th year? ... Yes, you aksakal! )
              1. Lelek
                Lelek 10 November 2019 00: 29 New
                0
                Quote: nesvobodnaja
                Were on vacation in the 58th year? ... Yes, you aksakal!

                hi
                So yes, what can you do (do not give it out, let it be a secret between us). I will answer with the words of old man Hottabych: "I know a lot, I remember a lot, but that's why water flows from the pipe in the wall, I don't know." bully
                1. nesvobodnaja
                  nesvobodnaja 10 November 2019 01: 10 New
                  +1
                  Why hide something to be proud of ....
                  My regards. )
                  1. Lelek
                    Lelek 10 November 2019 11: 59 New
                    0
                    Quote: nesvobodnaja
                    Why hide something to be proud of ....


                    I change my pride for a "temporary upgrade". Assess my message when you are over .... yes
                    1. nesvobodnaja
                      nesvobodnaja 11 November 2019 13: 47 New
                      +1
                      "Cogito, ergo sum", - uttered one of the ancient sages ....
      2. Boris55
        Boris55 6 November 2019 08: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: Civil
        1. Abkhazians themselves do not pull their country. I have to contain Russia.

        This is how to organize. You can supply a fish, but you can give a fishing rod.

        Quote: Civil
        2. Abkhazians will not go to the Georgians, because hostility in the Caucasus is eternal.

        They lived under the USSR, so there are options. As an example, return one and the other to Russia.

        Quote: Civil
        3. Nobody recognizes Abkhazia - a matter of principle

        Being a part of Russia it will not matter what. There are 24 republics in Russia, there will be a couple more.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 6 November 2019 09: 27 New
          +6
          Georgians in Russia ?! God forbid!
      3. avib
        avib 6 November 2019 10: 19 New
        -2
        In fact, a signal was sent from the West that Georgia’s claims on these already held countries they can hardly find any real support.

        It is powerfully said. It is necessary to take these developed countries of Russia, like the Crimea. Hold a referendum and all. Otherwise, an ulcer .... Not that the annexation will pass without a trace ... but here everything is all in one bucket - Crimea, Ossetia and Abkhazia and Donbass can be.
        1. nesvobodnaja
          nesvobodnaja 10 November 2019 00: 23 New
          0
          Not in a bucket, but under the wing.
      4. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 6 November 2019 10: 19 New
        -1
        Quote: Civil
        1. Abkhazians themselves do not pull their country. I have to contain Russia.
        2. Abkhazians will not go to the Georgians, because hostility in the Caucasus is eternal.
        3. Nobody recognizes Abkhazia - a matter of principle, the large countries that are solving their own problems with separatism.

        So we have a suitcase without a handle.

        1. South Ossetia cannot support itself either.
        2. There is a danger of separatism in North Ossetia due to the presence of South Ossetia.
        3. And here there will be a gradual merger into one republic.

        The ideology of the existence of any independent state in the post-Soviet space is Russophobia. In Abkhazia and South Ossetia, it is partially replaced by Georgian phobia. But! As national authorities strengthen in these republics, the level of Russophobia will increase there. The recognition of the independence of South Ossetia and Abkhazia by Russia was a mistake, it was necessary to include these republics in Russia.
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 6 November 2019 11: 37 New
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        3. Nobody recognizes Abkhazia - a matter of principle, the large countries that are solving their own problems with separatism.
        So we have a suitcase without a handle.
        This is controversial. Maybe no one in the West needs wide recognition for nothing, but recognition is needed only from the official Tbilisi, because the solution of the territorial problem will allow Georgia to be integrated into the NATO bloc without problems, which the organization's charter does not allow expanding at the expense of countries with an armed conflict on their territory and territorial disputes. If Tbilisi "on its own" recognizes the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, then wider recognition will follow.
        Quote: Civil
        2. There is a danger of separatism in North Ossetia due to the presence of South Ossetia.
        There is no such danger, because you will not go far on corn and fruits, and there is no oil and gas in quantities of interest to a foreign investor. Tourism and mineral waters? Meanwhile, being part of the Russian Federation, these republics receive significant subsidies and have full military protection from any aggressor.
        Quote: Civil
        3. And here there will be a gradual merger into one republic.

        This is not even an assumption, but quite an expected scenario for the development of Ossetia as a subject of the Russian Federation.
        Quote: Civil
        Abkhazians themselves do not pull their country. I have to contain Russia. 1. South Ossetia also cannot support itself.
        We help, not without this, but these republics themselves have been expanding their economic contacts since 2008, even with those countries that did not recognize them in fact. If Tbilisi recognizes their independence, then economic contacts will be significantly expanded.
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 6 November 2019 11: 38 New
        +3
        Abkhazia will remain our protectorate. A normal layer for trading with those with whom you can not officially trade - for example, with the Donbass. They will not go to the Georgians, they will not fall under NATO.
        South Ossetia will sooner or later become part of the Russian Federation. Its armed forces have already become part of our armed forces; all residents have Russian citizenship. The demarcation of the border will end and all that remains is to wait for the right moment to join. Although in my opinion. it was necessary to attach after the scandal with Gabunia. It would be quite on time.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 6 November 2019 06: 40 New
    +3
    There is no sense for the West to fight for "a united and indivisible Georgia" ... Sooner or later, Abkhazia and South Ossetia will have to be recognized, all the more so Georgia must somehow be accepted into the EU and into NATO. For stupidity is obtained, according to the Helsinki agreements, such a clause, recognized the collapse of the USSR, the SFRY and the formation of new states on these territories, and Georgia, as it were, does not fall under this ... if so, then the states that emerged after the collapse of the above states can be recognized as not legitimate ... The legitimacy of Abkhazia and South Ossetia are clearly marked , does not contradict the Helsinki Agreements and, moreover, are recognized as a world power - Russia, a member of the UN Security Council ... why should the West roll around, gritting their teeth recognize ...
    1. Vladimir16
      Vladimir16 6 November 2019 09: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: parusnik
      more than that, Georgia somehow needs to be accepted into the EU and NATO.

      Who do you want?

      Conflict on Russia's borders needs NATO (read USA)

      But to take someone somewhere, no one is eager.
      Everyone they wanted was accepted in the EU and NATO.

      The admission of Georgians to NATO is an open confrontation with the Russians. Do Europeans need this?

      Do Georgian residents need to trade with Russia? Where else can they put their water and wine? In the EU, this box is full without Georgians.
      1. Oleg Zorin
        Oleg Zorin 8 November 2019 13: 54 New
        0
        Borjomi already belongs to Alpha-groups))). So the issue has been resolved on water.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 6 November 2019 09: 28 New
      +3
      They will never recognize Abkhazia. The case will be similar with Cyprus.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 November 2019 06: 46 New
    -1
    What is strange - the Polish expert spoke out very sensibly and without Polish hostility towards Russia.
    It seems that the West and Moscow are moving step by step towards a compromise acceptable to all on the issue of international recognition of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
    It would certainly be good, first of all, for Abkhazia and South Ossetia. The Georgian side will naturally hinder this, but who will ask them if the issue is finally discussed between the West and Moscow.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 6 November 2019 07: 05 New
      -1
      Let Georgia finally decide what is more important to it, membership in Western organizations or the imaginary integrity of the state. and two ass chairs aren’t enough for two chairs.
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 6 November 2019 06: 56 New
    +1
    Time goes by and by and large, everything will settle down .... as always.
  5. Mikhail Drabkin
    Mikhail Drabkin 6 November 2019 07: 43 New
    -1
    if Georgia wants to become a member of NATO, you should .... start discussions: is it acceptable for you to become a member of NATO without Abkhazia and South Ossetia

    —- It doesn’t matter what happens with the mini-states .... but if it costs Georgia to NATO, it contradicts the interests of Russia, and complicates the advancement of Russia's interests in the Caucasus, shakes the situation in Chechnya, Dagestan ..
    —- Elites in this region are far from pro-Russian even now (with the possible exception of South Ossetia). Their interests can turn 180 degrees. I distrust the improvement of relations between these mini-states with Georgia, trade with Turkey ...
  6. Semurg
    Semurg 6 November 2019 07: 47 New
    +2
    Abkhazians in a couple of decades in NATO, such a scenario is not calculated? After the Europeans fill them with maleho infrastructure and tourist centers.
    1. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 6 November 2019 07: 55 New
      +4
      such a scenario is not calculated?
      It seems that such a scenario is supported .. And further globalization .. There are no other people at the top, all the same liberals-globalists-cosmopolitans ..
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 6 November 2019 08: 21 New
      -5
      Quote: Semurg
      Abkhazians in a couple of decades in NATO

      In a couple of decades, there will be neither NATO nor the United States in the role of hegemon.

      Quote: DEPHIHTO
      And further globalization.

      Globalization in the West has failed. The unipolar World is destroyed.
      There is a globalization in Russian.

      1. DEDPIHTO
        DEDPIHTO 6 November 2019 08: 36 New
        +2
        In your NODE, well-made pictures are good, so manage to make good pictures on this topic. At the same time, on the theme of Armenia and other territories unfolding towards the west on decreasing dates. winked Cool will turn out ,, globalization in Russian ,,))
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 6 November 2019 08: 39 New
          -4
          Quote: DEPHIHTO
          In your node

          NOD is not mine. They are not above the fourth priority of management (economic). In general - a dummy. I am closer to the concept of public safety (BER).



          ps
          I collected the picture in a previous post. I do pictures only on what interests me.
      2. d.olegov44
        d.olegov44 6 November 2019 18: 19 New
        0
        Why then did the USA-Kosovo recognize half of the world, and Abkhazia and Ossetia only Nauru, Tuvalu, North Korea and Nicaragua (even the Old Man did not fit)?
    3. tesser
      tesser 6 November 2019 08: 31 New
      -2
      Quote: Semurg
      Abkhazians in a couple of decades in NATO, such a scenario is not calculated?

      No.
      See Transnistria.
      1. Semurg
        Semurg 6 November 2019 18: 23 New
        0
        Quote: tesser
        Quote: Semurg
        Abkhazians in a couple of decades in NATO, such a scenario is not calculated?

        No.
        See Transnistria.

        In Transnistria, another national composition of the population that fundamentally distinguishes Abkhazia from Transnistria .. NATO is not waiting for Russians as members of their organization, remember the reaction to Putin’s speech about a single space from Portugal to Vladivostok.
    4. knn54
      knn54 6 November 2019 09: 29 New
      0
      The Turks have long been "spitting" Semurg for them. But in Abkhazia the Armenian diaspora is strong (albeit a small one). Although the deal. on real estate with Russians, invalidated.
      I think that we will have to wait with recognition, because the Russian Federation does not recognize Kosovo.
  7. nikolai.kolya
    nikolai.kolya 6 November 2019 07: 58 New
    0
    Along this path is already the turn that must be occupied and stood for 30 years (and how many are unknown)
    By the way, donbass is also in a hurry in this queue
  8. Professor
    Professor 6 November 2019 08: 16 New
    +7
    Former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, who retains the status of a very influential politician in this bloc, in mid-September first publicly spoke out - namely in Tbilisi - about the need to recognize real independence of both Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Many Western media outlets regarded this as a “strategic sensation.”

    What kind of nonsense? It is difficult to imagine more dependent territories. Without Russian injections, they will last a month.

    It seems that the West and Moscow are moving step by step towards a compromise acceptable to all on the issue of international recognition of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

    Quite the opposite. The bourgeoisie are ready to accept Georgia without the torn away territories, but it seems that the territories themselves suddenly turn to face Georgia.
  9. steelmaker
    steelmaker 6 November 2019 08: 55 New
    -3
    Or maybe it is necessary that Georgia wants to be a republic within the Russian Federation? I understand that Africa is more expensive for Putin. But why not work in this direction since 2008 did not want to?
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 6 November 2019 15: 38 New
      0
      Georgia Russia has nothing to offer
  10. Livonetc
    Livonetc 6 November 2019 09: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: Civil
    1. Abkhazians themselves do not pull their country. I have to contain Russia.
    2. Abkhazians will not go to the Georgians, because hostility in the Caucasus is eternal.
    3. Nobody recognizes Abkhazia - a matter of principle, the large countries that are solving their own problems with separatism.

    So we have a suitcase without a handle.

    1. South Ossetia cannot support itself either.
    2. There is a danger of separatism in North Ossetia due to the presence of South Ossetia.
    3. And here there will be a gradual merger into one republic.

    Please explain the thesis about the development of separatism in Ossetia?
    Have you ever talked with Ossetians?
  11. Armata T-14
    Armata T-14 6 November 2019 11: 05 New
    -3
    In 2024, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will be part of Russia, together with Belarus, Donetsk and Lugansk regions. In 2021, Alaska will be part of Russia
    1. Leshy1975
      Leshy1975 6 November 2019 11: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: Armata T-14
      In 2024, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will be part of Russia, together with Belarus, Donetsk and Lugansk regions. In 2021, Alaska will be part of Russia

      Good plan, rocky. Especially in the part of Alaska. laughing
      1. Armata T-14
        Armata T-14 6 November 2019 21: 47 New
        0
        The United States will fall apart during the central event of this century - the last liberal global financial and economic crisis of 2021. Accordingly, Alaska will return to its homeland. Imagine where Putin’s rating will fly away) Crimean interest will seem like a kindergarten
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 6 November 2019 22: 26 New
          0
          Quote: Armata T-14
          The United States will fall apart during the central event of this century - the last liberal global financial and economic crisis of 2021. Accordingly, Alaska will return to its homeland. Imagine where Putin’s rating will fly away) Crimean interest will seem kindergarten

          Your words to God in the ears. But do not really believe in it ... repeat
          1. Armata T-14
            Armata T-14 7 November 2019 01: 11 New
            +2
            "God" knows what to do, there is no need to remind him
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 7 November 2019 08: 00 New
              0
              Quote: Armata T-14
              "The God"

              I don’t know who you are talking about, but my God is not quoted. request
        2. Leshy1975
          Leshy1975 6 November 2019 22: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Armata T-14
          The United States will fall apart during the central event of this century - the last liberal global financial and economic crisis of 2021. Accordingly, Alaska will return to its homeland. Imagine where Putin’s rating will fly away) Crimean interest will seem like a kindergarten

          So I'm only FOR, with both hands. laughing Well, everything, everything that depended on me, for the return of Alaska I did (voted FOR), now it's up to you (to fulfill your forecast). laughing
          1. Armata T-14
            Armata T-14 7 November 2019 01: 12 New
            0
            What is behind me. It’s time after time - just wait from 1.5 to 2 years
        3. mikle1999
          mikle1999 9 November 2019 16: 26 New
          +1
          And how will we live without Boeing, the Internet, mobile communications and medicines?
    2. Butchcassidy
      Butchcassidy 6 November 2019 12: 49 New
      -1
      Do not fantasize. Yes, and this is not necessary - a direct entry into the composition
    3. Plate
      Plate 10 November 2019 15: 06 New
      0
      In 2024, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will be part of Russia, together with Belarus, Donetsk and Lugansk regions. In 2021, Alaska will be part of Russia

      Optimistic. And what is your forecast based on and what are the alternative outcomes? After all, any forecast has its share of probability ... By the way, how likely (I do not ask for figures) do you consider your forecast?
  12. Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 6 November 2019 12: 48 New
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    I can only welcome this. Georgians and Abkhazians, Ossetians and Georgians need to live in harmony and peace. The blame for the outbreak of Georgian ultranationalism.
    1. Karen
      Karen 6 November 2019 19: 05 New
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      Quote: ButchCassidy
      The blame for the outbreak of Georgian ultranationalism.

      I won't say anything about South Ossetia - but Abkhazia is an Islamic foothold in the South Caucasus for the North Caucasus ... There is already an overabundance of Adjarian extremism against Georgians, and the creeping Turkic annexation in Georgia should not be discounted either ... So the present Abkhazia is more likely for Armenia "minus"...
  13. Sapsan136
    Sapsan136 6 November 2019 15: 46 New
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    It is high time for Abkhazia and South Ossetia to be included in the Russian Federation, or to stop spending money on them from the budget of the Russian Federation .... Enough to feed the foreigners and their kings, independent of Russia, there are enough problems in the Russian Federation!
    1. region58
      region58 6 November 2019 18: 53 New
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      Quote: Sapsan136
      include in the Russian Federation, or stop spending money on them from the budget of the Russian Federation

      Vague doubts torment me - but as part of the Russian Federation, money from the budget will not need to be spent on them? request
      Something tells you that spending will increase many times over. yes In addition, for example, the "independent" Abkhazia and Ossetia have agreed on cooperation with the DPR and LPR. And what can you do with them - she is so independent ... they wanted and agreed ... You look at who else they will agree with - you never know problem regions ... yes
      1. Sapsan136
        Sapsan136 7 November 2019 12: 01 New
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        Spending money on the Russian region and on foreigners are two different things ... No one will render real help to the Donbass, which by the way is also a long time ago to return to Russia, anyway
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  15. dmit
    dmit 9 November 2019 02: 03 New
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    Quote: Armata T-14
    In 2024, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will be part of Russia, together with Belarus, Donetsk and Lugansk regions. In 2021, Alaska will be part of Russia

    "Faina Ivanovna, dear, why do you need Alaska?" (from) laughing
  16. mikle1999
    mikle1999 9 November 2019 14: 32 New
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    What did not live for people. They staged a war, now they live "independent". From Georgia, from education, from medicine, from the opportunity to travel around the world.
  17. Goral
    Goral 10 November 2019 00: 15 New
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    the author of the article needs to kick his ass for fiction and outright lies, which he put from some hangover in Rasmussen’s mouth. The NATO Secretary General did not say anything similar to what the author of this opus writes about, and in particular this nonsense:

    "The separation of Abkhazia from South Ossetia was facilitated by the discriminatory policies of Georgia in these regions, and now we must reckon with the realities."

    и

    "Former NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen, ..., in mid-September for the first time publicly spoke - in Tbilisi - about the need to recognize the real independence of both Abkhazia and South Ossetia."

    This is what an idiot you have to be to hang noodles on the ears of Russian readers. Although nothing new, lies and propaganda are typical methods of Russian Media. Keep your readers in good shape.

    as for the territories of Georgia occupied by Russia, no further confessions are even planned in the style of Tuvalu / Vanuatu / Nicaragua. Vanuatu, if not mistaken, recalled the confession. And as soon as Maduro and Ortega fly from their posts, the same thing happens with their confessions paid by Moscow.

    As long as the oligarchic kleptocracy of the security forces and those close to the body rules the ball in Russia, Russia will butt with these suitcases without handles - swell billions into Abkhazia and then again and again wonder where everything disappeared and disappeared.

    I believe that Russia will someday get rid of this generation that is sick of Soviet-era neo-imperial chauvinism and then everything will be better between Georgia and Russia. We are doomed to alliance.