"Wilk" and "Borsuk": the Ministry of Defense of Poland has chosen the direction of modernization of the army

Poland approved a plan for the development of the land component of the national armed forces in the near future and set priorities within which it intends to move towards defense sufficiency.

Thus, the “Plan for Technical Modernization at 2021-2035” signed by the Minister of Defense of Poland Mariusz Blaszczak contains more than two thousand points.

Priority will be modernization tanks Leopard 2A4 up to the Leopard 2PL standard, the acquisition of more Rosomak wheeled armored personnel carriers of various versions, the purchase of new-generation tanks under the code name "Wilk", and the commissioning of the innovative Borsuk infantry fighting vehicles.

At the same time, the modernization of the Leopards has been carried out since the 2015 of the year. The 2PL version should have an improved tower, a stabilization system, as well as new observation devices for the gunner and crew commander.

But Poland places special hopes on the new project of the Wilk tank, which should replace the T-72 and PT-91 combat vehicles in the fleet, as well as the promising Borsuk infantry fighting vehicles. The main advantage of the latter is that its production can be deployed very quickly.

In addition, the army modernization program includes the purchase of new artillery systems and helicopters.

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[210ox]

The Poles are preoccupied. But they are armed seriously. What they can’t do themselves, they’re buying. Here, the French frigate gather.

[Sky strike fighter]

And they can do a lot themselves? Almost everyone buys.

[Hunter 2]

That's Who the noblemen are going to fight? Why so bent under Matrasnikov (well, very much) ??? Unclear...
Well, a plan of more than two thousand points - easily resets the Iskander Division with SPECBCH.

[MoJloT]

That's Who the noblemen are going to fight?

Return Lviv to their home harbor.

[Sky strike fighter]

Quote: MoJloT

That's Who the noblemen are going to fight?

Return Lviv to their home harbor.

Lviv is a black mark for the country in which it is located. As practice shows, such countries often disintegrate, and Lviv either ends up in one country or another. So Poland will end with this in time.

[Zliy_mod]

Lviv Ukrainian and the point. We can still throw them a show for the Hill and Przemysl, they were also founded by the Old Russian princes.

[Pavel57]

You can throw, but whether it is necessary, because then you have to fight.

[maidan.izrailovich]

Lviv Ukrainian and the point. We can still throw them a show for the Hill and Przemysl, they were also founded by the Old Russian princes.

"Ukrainian" and "Old Russian" are not combined.

[Zliy_mod]

For me, the Kievites are still combined, because we are Ukrainians, direct descendants of the Kiev Old Russian Princes and I do not experience any complexes about this!)

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Zliy_mod

because we Ukrainians are direct descendants of the Kiev Old Russian Princes

Well yes. All without exception. White bone, blue blood!

[Zliy_mod]

If this will reassure you, then for me that the Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians are one people and the citizens of Ukraine are also one people, despite their nationalities.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: Zliy_mod

If it calms you, then for me

Yes, I don't care about your "tolerance" ...

Quote: Zliy_mod

that Russians, Belarusians, Ukrainians are one people and the citizens of Ukraine are also one people, despite their nationalities.

But precisely -

Quote: Zliy_mod

we are Ukrainians, direct descendants of the Kiev Old Russian Princes

Equal to other others.

[Hunter 2]

Oh, those Dreams and Dreamers ... according to Lamberg - I agree ... but, a little more and they will definitely hold a referendum on returning to Poland, so many issued Polish passports speaks directly about this.
But in Western Belarus ... are they that they hope to cherish Grygorich "quietly" to win ??? This is complete nonsense! Russia will definitely not stand aside!
And according to the dream "from mozh to mozh" ... Travel agency Ivan Susanin - will lead the Shortest way!

[Winnie76]

Quote: Hunter 2

But in Western Belarus ... are they that they hope to cherish Grygorich "quietly" to win ??? This is complete nonsense! Russia will definitely not stand aside!

Belarusians will not fight on foreign territory, but why should we? What hangover?

[Hunter 2]

Quote: Winnie76

Quote: Hunter 2

But in Western Belarus ... are they that they hope to cherish Grygorich "quietly" to win ??? This is complete nonsense! Russia will definitely not stand aside!

Belarusians will not fight on foreign territory, but why should we? What hangover?

And how are we different? I live in Minsk (and very well. My sister is a Russian citizen, my nephew a citizen of Russia ((and France)) was born almost a month earlier ... someone wanted to see Paris)
You - may not be, I - I will! And the Government understands that Belarus cannot be built ... otherwise, it will be TRINDER!
If from Budun - drink ushiši, pickle - and be sure to sleep.

[Winnie76]

Quote: Hunter 2

And how are we different? I live in Minsk (and very well. My sister is a Russian citizen, my nephew a citizen of Russia ((and France)) was born almost a month earlier ... someone wanted to see Paris)

A killer argument. And if your sister and nephew (citizens of Russia) would live in Tallinn - then it’s time for Russia to join NATO?

Quote: Hunter 2

You - may not be, I - I will! And the Government understands that Belarus cannot be built ... otherwise, it will be TRINDER!

Dear friend, I am a big fan of the biblical principle "What measure you measure - the same is measured to you." Explain, please. Why are the servicemen of the Republic of Belarus ready to fight only on their own territory, and the servicemen of the Russian Federation - everywhere?

Quote: Hunter 2

If from Budun - drink ushiši, pickle - and be sure to sleep.

I do not drink and I do not advise you.

[Sky strike fighter]

Return of Western Ukraine and Western They have Belarus on the agenda in the future. Well, and their eternal dreams of having land from sea to sea.

[Sergey39]

And they do not have the return of Bialystok?

[bessmertniy]

Yes, they all have enemies around. Therefore, we must clearly represent it as one of the enemies. No illusions.

[Operator]

Wheeled "tank" Wilk - Poles burn napalm

[AU Ivanov.]

Badger, what better? The badger is a burrowing beast, this BMP is apparently for fighting in the subway. Although before World War II, among the Poles, moose and crucians flew across the sky in the sky.

[Thrifty]

They shove in their us their abrams, that’s all. ..it is not up to the fat that the owner will impose, then buy the fields and buy, it was necessary for them to put themselves on a short leash at the feet of Trump. ..

[bessmertniy]

Poland’s economy is afloat, so the older brother will squeeze out everything they can from them. Somewhere the Poles have national pride, and before the USA they bend in all the ways of the Kama Sutra.

[Den717]

Quote: bessmertniy

and in front of the USA they bend

The poles bend for everyone, who will beckon money. Only Russia they definitely in the hostile camp. With the Germans graters occurred, so they ordered the Leopards. And, it’s not even an hour, they can withdraw from allowance (monetary). Once in a book by a Polish author, he read a story about how the Poles of their ladies (wives and daughters) sent to the villages located near concentration camps in a simple way to earn the teeth of burned Jews from non-German security guards and other attendants. Business is beyond morality .... Polish pride also wants to eat sweetly.

[Gray brother]

tank project "Wilk"

This is not a tank at all, but a fire support vehicle; it cannot be used as a tank at all.

[voyaka uh]

This is a self-propelled infantry fire support. On the front line - under enemy tanks and ATGMs - it cannot be rolled out. But in defense of an ambush, it can be useful.

[Vladimir_2U]

What kind of infantry support is there, if from ambushes, a pure AT is obtained.

[voyaka uh]

Infantry also does not always advance. Sometimes it defends itself in trenches and bunkers. And then such self-propelled guns from behind will be useful.
And in the offensive, infantry is best supported by MBT. Only they have sufficient front line survival.

[Vladimir_2U]

And in this case, PT also turns out, because on

Quote: voyaka uh

And in the offensive infantry is best supported MBT

))

[Gray brother]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

What kind of support is the infantry,

There is such a cartoon that the equipment in the unit should be uniform - this is necessary for marches at least.
It is impossible to give tanks to the "Wolverines" because they will not be able to follow them on the highway and will slow down the movement of the column.
So they want a "tank" based on "Wolverine".
True, in this mode, they can ride freely only in Poland.

[Vladimir_2U]

And also in their colonies, by the way, where are they?

[Gray brother]

They themselves are a colony.

[Vladimir_2U]

You can ride the colony while you ride the colony. )))

[Anton Yu]

The author apparently confuses with another tank modernization project: T-72M2 Wilk

[Gray brother]

Quote: Anton Yu

tank modernization project: T-72M2 Wilk

T-72M2 Wilk is not a project that took off thirty years ago, they tormented him for a long time and then Twardy turned out of him.

[Anton Yu]

but this is the only tank that should have been called Wilk.

[n0001]

Wilk is a "K2PL" co-implemented with South Korea.

[Gray brother]

Quote: n0001

realized

Has it been implemented for a long time? How many tanks are produced?

[n0001]

Wymagania są obecnie ustalane. Chodzi rownież o polonizację czołgów

[Gray brother]

Quote: n0001

Wymagania są obecnie ustalane. Chodzi rownież o polonizację czołgów

"Polonization" is when they take chtol prisoner? (google translator)
Why is he needed at all? This is practically an analogue of "Leopard".

[n0001]

https://www.defence24.pl/polsko-koreanski-czolg-przyszlosci

[Kurare]

... as well as the promising BMP "Borsuk". The main advantage of the latter is that its production can be deployed very quickly.

If this is the "main advantage" of the new BMP for the Polish army, then you can drain the water. And I always thought that combat effectiveness is what they put at the forefront for new weapons.

[7,62x54]

The Poles really want to be skirmishers of the Great War.

[cniza]

They, as always, forget how it ends for them.

[cniza]

Thus, the “Plan for Technical Modernization at 2021-2035” signed by the Minister of Defense of Poland Mariusz Blaszczak contains more than two thousand points.

It seems that everyone wants to fight, again the West is gathering a crowd against us.

[Vladimir_2U]

Innovative infantry fighting vehicle, it is strong.

[L-39NG]

I will go straight to the topic. Poland now has money for weapons. Where did you get it? - Another topic and not for HE. I still hope that VO is not a bazaar in the kitchen. In the end, and for the Soviet Navy produced landing ships and not only. There is an industry that can. There are also cooperations - see how they work with the Finnish Patria. In addition, they offer certain solutions - logistics, metallurgy and production, etc. for the Franco-German draft new MBT. Now it is already clear that this will not be just a Franco-German project. And not to the peak of Russia, but for scientific and technological advancement.
This is the Polish offer of Borsuk

[L-39NG]

Continuation to the topic

[L-39NG]

And a new continuation to the topic

[Kurare]

Quote: L-39NG

I still hope that VO is not a bazaar in the kitchen.

Well, if the trolls, then there is a bazaar!

Quote: L-39NG

Poland now has money for weapons. Where did you get it? - Another topic and not for HE.

In this world, they don’t give anything for no reason, that is, will have to give. And very often it turns out that they give away not only with money, but, for example, with the sovereignty of an entire country.

Quote: L-39NG

In the end, and for the Soviet Navy produced landing ships and not only. There is an industry that can.

Yes, they did, with emphasis on the past tense. But it is one thing to have a good production base, and another is the USSR design school.

Quote: L-39NG

And not to the peak of Russia, but for scientific and technological advancement.

And do you yourself believe in it, in the name of "scientific and technological advancement"? When at every step from Poland you only hear against whom you “have” to arm yourself with something, you cannot believe that all this is being done for the sake of science and applied arts.

[L-39NG]

You know very well that what people now use at home are products of military-technical research. Examples? Not enough for a whole day and a larger notebook to write everything in small print.
I believe in something or do not believe is a difficult question. First of all, I can receive any information from various sources in open media, then, I do not close my eyes or plug my ears when I communicate with people and move around the world. And on the basis of what I saw, heard and lived, I make my conclusions and apriori refuse to believe what is implanted. Usually the implanted is not true, to say the least.

[Kurare]

Quote: L-39NG

You know very well that what people now use at home are products of military-technical research.

This is an argument made by many. But there is one BUT. It is one thing to do research in an area where the "leg of a scientist" has never set foot, for example, the Internet, the use of a laser, metallurgy, etc. And the other is to create the production of the same tanks. Exhaust towards consumer goods tends to zero!

Quote: L-39NG

First of all, I can receive any information from various sources in open media, then, I do not close my eyes or plug my ears when I communicate with people and move around the world.

Dito. I agree 100%.

Quote: L-39NG

Usually the implanted is not true, to say the least.

There is such an expression: if it quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like a duck, probably this is a duck!

[L-39NG]

But there are also such things, especially often on the central TV channels, which are presented as truth, look like truth, but in fact it is a "duck".
But this topic is not for VO.

[Kurare]

You yourself wrote that information must be taken from different sources. The same thing if you listen to CNN or the BBC. And there, too, quack-quack is still far from a drake!

[L-39NG]

I have not specified the source of the "ducks".

[Kurare]

Isn't that yours?

Quote: L-39NG

But there are also such things, especially often on the central TV channels, which are presented as truth, look like truth, but in fact it is a "duck".

[Anton Yu]

There will be no problems with the release of Wilk

he is on the Rosomak platform (Finnish version of Patria)

[n0001]

Wolf is a heavy tank K2PL. Based on the Korean tank
https://www.defence24.pl/polsko-koreanski-czolg-przyszlosci

[n0001]

Modernization of the leopard 2PL https://bumar.gliwice.pl/strefa-militarna/o/modernizacja-czolgow-leopard-2a4

[Anton Yu]

I don’t know Polish, but you can understand that the word Wilk is not found there even once.

[n0001]

http://www.konflikty.pl/technika-wojskowa/na-ladzie/k2-pl-wilk-m88a2-hercules-wojska-polskiego/

[n0001]

Wilk, means the T 72 retrofit program and the construction of the T 72 successor.

[Anton Yu]

And what is the point of buying Korean tanks? And to have different equipment: German, Finnish, Korean and others.

[n0001]

Now the army is equipped with T 72 and Leopard 2 (will no longer be). Cooperation with the Koreans has been going on for several years. K9 chassis for 155 mm howitzers. Creating a European tank is too far.

[n0001]

Objects on the Rosomak 8x8 chassis are demonstrators of a tank destroyer. The one that says "wolf" is an old story (Belgian tower)