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In Spain, recognized the Soviet atomic "Tsar bomb" useless

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The Soviet atomic Tsar Bomb, tested on Novaya Zemlya in the Arctic on 30 on October 1961, proved unsuitable for a real war. This statement was made by the author of an article published in the Spanish newspaper La Vanguardia.


In Spain, recognized the Soviet atomic "Tsar bomb" useless


According to the journalist, the Soviet atomic Tsar Bomb was nothing more than a “Soviet bluff” designed to intimidate capitalist countries and demonstrate advanced Soviet technologies to them. The leadership of the Soviet Union knew this and tried to hide it. In fact, this atomic bomb could not be delivered over long distances, the author claims, and most of its energy in the explosion went into space in the form of radiation. The 27-ton thermonuclear Tsar Bomb was 8 meters long, and the Tu-95 heavy strategic bomber was even converted for its transportation.

The USSR and America spent exorbitant budgetary funds to create equipment unsuitable for real military operations

- says the Spanish journalist.

AN602 (aka Tsar Bomb) - thermonuclear aviation a bomb developed in the USSR in 1956-1961 by a group of nuclear physicists led by academician Igor Kurchatov.

The test took place on October 30 1961 of the year by dumping Tu-95В from the Sukhoi Nos nuclear test site on Novaya Zemlya. The explosion power was 58,6 megatons of TNT, and there was also a variant of the bomb with 101,5 megatons of power.

To date, the Tsar Bomb is considered the most powerful manufactured explosive device in all history of humanity. It is listed in the Guinness Book of Records as the most powerful thermonuclear device that has passed real tests.
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 2 November 2019 08: 18
    +38
    Lord And these followers of Franco where with their opinion climb? !!!
    1. hrych
      hrych 2 November 2019 08: 28
      +82
      The bomb king has declared Spain useless wassat
      1. Bar2
        Bar2 2 November 2019 09: 01
        +13
        the Spaniards once so spoiled after their conquests that they themselves can’t do anything, neither an airplane, nor their car, nothing for space, nothing of computer science, but they are trying to criticize others like that, first do your thing, paper fools.
        1. Chit
          Chit 2 November 2019 11: 28
          -14
          I agree.
          But how is it that with the intentions of Vladimir Vladimirovich to overtake and overtake Portugal, which borders with Spain? Already implemented?
          1. Ehanatone
            Ehanatone 2 November 2019 13: 31
            -3
            "to overtake and overtake the bordering Portugal Portugal? Already implemented"
            And that life in Portugal so suddenly worsened, or all the Portuguese were suddenly attacked by a clouding of reason and they suggested that nobody Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev also suddenly take the chair of the Prime Minister of Portugal! ... No.
        2. Yura
          Yura 2 November 2019 11: 28
          +2
          Quote: Bar2
          the Spaniards once deteriorated so much after their conquests that they themselves can’t do anything, neither an airplane, nor their car, nothing for space, nothing in computer science,

          In fact, your post is a brilliant example of what the country and the people have been doing for several decades of the fascist regime.
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 2 November 2019 12: 42
            +5
            We woke up, and where were they before, in order to “delight” the world with their Spanish “song”, for which there is so much lack of full-fledged smart voice. For more than half a century, only hoarse echoes sound, and what to take from an illiterate “conductor”.
            And therefore, more than once rights grunt (grunt):
            The Tsar bomb declared Spain useless.
      2. hydrox
        hydrox 2 November 2019 10: 48
        +7
        It is the Spaniards who were offended by the fact that the Tsar bomb covers the territory of Spain like a bull to a sheep :: one such use - and in the Pyrenees you no longer need to convince anyone, persuade and no one to bullshit - solid glass!
        1. dauria
          dauria 2 November 2019 13: 09
          +2
          the king bomb covers the territory of Spain like a bull to a sheep ::


          Myth. The mistake is that the radius of damage grows like the cubic root of the power. Both the shock wave and the light radiation. And the area is proportional to the square of the radius. That is, 50 bombs of 1 mgt each will cover a much larger area than one "tsar bomb" of 50 mgt. It really isn't needed. Just as an interesting experience.
          1. Operator
            Operator 2 November 2019 14: 11
            0
            100-Mtn version of "Tsar Bomba" with a third uranium stage on Israel tried on and did it immediately feel offensive? bully

            1. dauria
              dauria 2 November 2019 14: 50
              -1
              100-Mtn version of "Tsar Bomba" with a third uranium stage on Israel tried on

              Israel and Spain are going to wash with one clapperboard? The fact that the plane, a fragile structure, and even in the air 100 km away does not bother you? A couple more "revolutions" - and Anfisa Chekhova will be the smartest techie in Russia.
              1. Operator
                Operator 2 November 2019 16: 39
                +1
                Wait for Anfisa from the sea, not from the air bully
      3. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 2 November 2019 11: 36
        +2
        Yeah, I think that one would be enough to make the Iberian Peninsula unsuitable for living for the next several thousand years. But the trouble is, where will the Russian and Bandera oligarchs buy their own villas?
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 2 November 2019 11: 39
          +3
          PS But in general, they had such a chance when the mattress B-52 lost a hydrogen bomb off the coast of Spain.
      4. Alien From
        Alien From 2 November 2019 13: 13
        -1
        I rarely agree with you, but the comment is murderous)))))
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 2 November 2019 08: 32
      +6
      Jamon, apparently in the heat still spoiled.
    3. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 2 November 2019 08: 34
      +8
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Lord And these followers of Franco where with their opinion climb? !!!

      Can repeat specifically for unbelievers? And then they live in some kind of dream world.
      On October 30, 1961, AN602 was delivered from the Oleny airfield at the Novaya Zemlya training ground.
      The flight of the bomber took 2 hours, the projectile was dropped from a height of 10 m.
      The blast took place at 11:33 Moscow time after being dropped from a height of 4 m above the target. The flight time of the bomb was 000 seconds. The plane delivering the bomb flew 188 km from the drop zone during this time, and the laboratory plane (Tu-39A), which accompanied the carrier, 95 km.
      The shock wave caught up with the car at a distance of 115 km from the target: the vibration was significant, about 800 meters of altitude was lost, but this did not affect the further flight. Reflective paint burned out in some places, and parts of the aircraft were damaged (some even melted).
      The total power of the King of the Bomb explosion (58,6 megatons) exceeded what was planned (51,5 megatons).

      https://warbook.club/boepripasy/bomby/tsar/
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 2 November 2019 09: 59
        -12
        Quote: Sky Strike fighter
        May repeat

        What can you repeat then? Do you have a bomb?
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 2 November 2019 11: 00
          +5
          In fact, any shell should be enough for one such thing to be designed, manufactured, assembled and tested.
          Is this information not enough for you?
          It will take no more than 2-3 m-cs to make ANOTHER one SUCH :: deuterium, tritium and fresh plutonium239 - how many are heaps!
          What coordinates will you deliver it to and who will lay out the white panels with a cross so as not to make a mistake when aiming?
          Which carrier do you prefer for delivery? laughing
    4. hrych
      hrych 2 November 2019 08: 56
      +24
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      where with your opinion

      Firstly, it was not an experimental device, but a full-fledged bomb in the flesh with a carrier and real bombing. Secondly, it broke the Americans psychologically, they realized their hopeless lag in the nuclear arms race, stopped trying to increase power and in 1963 the Treaty on the Prohibition of Testing Nuclear Weapons in the Atmosphere, Outer Space and Underwater was signed in Moscow. When the Americans lose, they sit down for negotiations and bargain for parity. So it was, and when they blew in ballistic missiles, they couldn’t make mobile, rail and heavyweight went lousy. And they sat down at the negotiating table. Thirdly, the Tsar bomb went parallel with the Tsar torpedo and the latter became a reality now, and it gave us just a resounding victory in the Nuclear Arms Race (the whole race, starting with Trinity). And everyone, the United States, the EU and China are defenseless before Poseidon. That's why he and the God of the sea. Fourth, the principles of calculating and constructing thermonuclear charges of a multistage type were verified and, moreover, the calculated power was exceeded.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 2 November 2019 09: 39
        +5
        Are you trying to explain this to the Spaniards?) Those who really want to understand the situation understand this, and those who just want to blurt out, you won’t prove it. So let them shout what they want, and then we did our job perfectly !!
        1. hrych
          hrych 2 November 2019 10: 06
          +7
          Quote: 1976AG
          So let them shout

          But a product with a carrier cannot be called a bluff. Yes, the media was redone, so we have the right. They converted the Mig-31 into a dagger and that ... The most important thing is to deliver such a product both in a torpedo version and as a dumping container from a civilian ship, even then it was a reality. And by the way, the Proton rocket can drop almost 24 tons into a low orbit, and a hundred-ton charge weighing 27 tons would have conveyed to America. By the way, the bomb weighed 26 and a half tons, of which the parachute weighed almost a ton. But the warhead does not need it and the real weight would be 25 and a half tons. Actually, what is written about the Proton in the Wiki, where exactly in the first sentence it is indicated in the History of Creation. The military is above all. Those. The proton was originally the carrier of the Tsar Warhead. Ours then not everyone knows about this, what to say about gishpan laughing
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 2 November 2019 10: 06
        -10
        Quote: hrych
        Firstly, it was not an experimental device, but a full-fledged bomb in the flesh with a carrier and real bombing.

        Not far from the city, at the Olenya airbase, the “Tsar bomb” was waiting for a specially modified Tu-95 for it. The weapon did not fit on the plane, so I had to cut out part of the fuselage. In order to drive the "Kuzkin mother" under the bomb bay, a pit was dug under it. The bomb still couldn’t completely hide in the bowels of the ship and peered out two-thirds.
        Great danger threatened the crew. The probability that as a result of the tests he will remain completely unharmed was only 1%. To increase the pilots' chances of survival, the plane was painted with white reflective paint, which was supposed to prevent the Tu-95B from igniting (this is the name, the first and only, received the aircraft adapted for the transport of "Ivan"). A parachute with an area of ​​half a football field was placed in the rear of the bomb. His mission was to slow down the fall of the projectile in order to give the crew as much time as possible to leave the affected area.
        This, of course, was not enough in order not to feel the anger of the “king-bomb” at all. A second after the explosion, the man-made sun blossomed above the earth - the flash could be seen with simple binoculars even from Mars, and on Earth it was observed at a distance of 1000 km. After a few seconds, the diameter of the dust pillar of the nuclear mushroom grew to 10 km, and its top reached the mesosphere, rushing up 67 km.
        According to the pilots, at first it became unbearably hot in the cockpit. Then the plane overtook the first shock wave, propagating at a speed of more than 1000 km / h. The ship, as if from a blow with a huge club, was thrown at half a kilometer. For almost an hour, radio communications disappeared throughout the Arctic. Fortunately, no one was injured from the explosion - the pilots survived.
        Rehearsal of the end of the world was a success. The Tsar Bomb was never adopted: in order to use it in combat conditions, they did not come up with a suitable invulnerable carrier - you won’t install such a huge thing on a rocket, and the plane will be shot down long before it reaches the target.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 2 November 2019 10: 27
          +5
          Quote: RUSS
          The ship, as if from a blow with a huge club, was thrown at half a kilometer. For almost an hour, radio communications disappeared throughout the Arctic. Fortunately, no one was injured from the explosion - the pilots survived.

          From the memoirs of Reshetnikov:
          When Durnovtsev, after dumping this fool, managed to move away from the landfill (shaking at full throttle while she was descending under a parachute system) to a distance of about one hundred kilometers, in a clear blue Arctic sky his ship was caught up by eight visibly visible, condensed to blue air waves. Under their powerful, shocking blows, the struts of the side lights were torn down, some hatches were crushed and the skin was deformed in some places. But the aircraft structure survived, and Durnovtsev safely returned to his airfield.
          Naturally, this “piece product” could not become serial, but how could one not play with strength, deny oneself the pleasure of feeling confusion in the camp of a potential enemy!
          Seeing Khrushchev’s enthusiasm, some leaders began to impose detonation and hundred-megaton racing on him, but nuclear scientists managed to dissuade him from this crazy undertaking, and he backed down.
        2. hrych
          hrych 2 November 2019 10: 28
          +7
          Quote: RUSS
          you can’t install such a whopper on a rocket

          Firstly, who prevented a dozen Tu-95s from being remade, like the MiG-31 under the Dagger.
          Secondly, the Proton was created for this charge initially, and its cosmic abilities are only a conversion. He is able to cast this charge in the USA.
          Thirdly, the Tsar bomb exploded in half of the calculated charge and exceeded the calculation by 7-8 megatons. Who interfered with making not the calculated stoton charge, but the reduced half calculated. The bomb would become half (relatively) smaller and lighter.
          It was this bomb that was created at the limit of the capabilities of delivery vehicles, i.e. the heaviest bomber, the most load-bearing missile (then), the most long-range torpedo of Trutnev. And I repeat, it was the bomb in the flesh, the carrier was in the flesh, but the only thing was that they were blown up to explode at rated power. And the blow was in the form of a knockout against the enemy. The round of the arms race, where the bombing was the basis, ended in our crushing victory. The next round is completed by our complete excellence in ICBMs. And the last point put Poseidon. And by the way, our Crimea because of Poseidon, our Syria because of Poseidon. 40 African kings and Erdogan bowed to Poseidon. Xi was elected king because of Poseidon. The EU is falling apart with Britain's brexet over Poseidon. Many do not understand this. And Poseidon is the brother of the Tsar-bomb .... the youngest.
          1. Operator
            Operator 2 November 2019 14: 30
            +2
            The Russian three-stage thermonuclear charge with tritium amplification, used as a special warhead of the NPA Poseidon, with a capacity of 100 Mtn, weighing 10 tons and dimensions of 1,5x5 m, is made in a modern form factor with a reflective uranium shell in the form of a peanut-nut shell.

            The mass-dimensional characteristics of a 100-Mtn charge allow it to be installed in the form of a multiblock on the Sarmat ICBM, and also to manufacture aviation bombs on its basis, which fit into the standard bomb compartments of the Tu-95 and Tu-160 strategic bombers.
    5. NKT
      NKT 2 November 2019 09: 29
      +1
      Yeah, if she fell on Madrid, then he, along with Toledo and the Valley of the Fallen, disappeared from the face of the Earth.
    6. Simargl
      Simargl 2 November 2019 12: 07
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      And these followers of Franco, where with their opinion climb? !!!
      The fact is that he is right!
      If you use this BONBU against Spain, you will have to accurately position the discharge point, because she can touch the border. Well, in Spain itself all have to re-build. Metro too.
      So it’s useless to fight Spain with this BoNBoy.
    7. iouris
      iouris 2 November 2019 12: 13
      -1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      these followers of Franco

      First, what does Franco have to do with it? Here the level of thinking of the new generation of "common people" is manifested in all its glory. Secondly, particles then (or, something) are written with a hyphen (something, something, something).
    8. NEXUS
      NEXUS 2 November 2019 15: 03
      +3
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Lord And these followers of Franco where with their opinion climb? !!!

      I read the article ... and regretted the time spent on this nonsense stoned muskrat. I was especially surprised by this ...
      most of its energy in the explosion went into space in the form of radiation.
  2. shoroh
    shoroh 2 November 2019 08: 19
    +5
    Enough for Spain, and another for the neighbors.
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 November 2019 08: 42
      +2
      He did not think about that. lol
  3. Private-K
    Private-K 2 November 2019 08: 31
    +4
    In fact, these fusion devices are just like aviation weapons were not considered. wassat tongue
    It was a purely scientific experiment: "What happens if ..."
    1. cniza
      cniza 2 November 2019 08: 41
      +3
      So for them the main thing is to peck Russia ...
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 2 November 2019 10: 09
        -3
        Quote: cniza
        So for them the main thing is to peck Russia ...

        Not the point, the Spaniards are essentially right
    2. KCA
      KCA 2 November 2019 09: 13
      0
      Well then, now 200kT are almost placed in a glass, or maybe placed
      1. KCA
        KCA 2 November 2019 09: 26
        +1
        I have a comrade, physicist, professor, who’s not specializing in dividing elements, but he’s interested, he said - from a theoretical point of view, you can make an initiator who annihilates the whole Earth, or the Sun and the whole surrounding space, but WHO will lead the theory before practice, because nothing left
    3. astepanov
      astepanov 2 November 2019 18: 51
      0
      Quote: Private-K
      It was a purely scientific experiment: "What happens if ..."

      No. knn54 answered exhaustively.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 2 November 2019 08: 39
    +1
    Yes, perhaps there would be little left of Spain ... Thermonuclear weapons were generally regarded as a weapon of deterrence. And not to be afraid of such power is impossible, unless you are down ... For one phrase of Khrushchev, about "... and our glasses will fly out" and blown it up. The world shuddered ... So we live, without the third world ...
  5. cniza
    cniza 2 November 2019 08: 40
    +1
    In Spain, recognized the Soviet atomic "Tsar bomb" useless


    What a "competent" journalist - an expert ... there is nothing more to say.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 2 November 2019 19: 33
      0
      Quote: cniza
      What a "competent" journalist - an expert ... there is nothing more to say.

      It should be noted that his country was not at war "for complete extermination." All their wars are, in fact, the seizure of resources, first of all, oddly enough, human resources (which will extract everything else), and the "product" will destroy both the territory and the population. He has a pattern break.
  6. venik
    venik 2 November 2019 08: 40
    +5
    "....spent exorbitant budgetary funds to create equipment unsuitable for real military operations ..... "
    =======
    ".. Oh well! Figs with her with this Spain! Tomorrow we'll figure it out ...!" laughing bully (from the "bearded" anecdote "Who pressed the button?" about the Strategic Missile Forces)
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 2 November 2019 09: 36
      +1
      By the way, some politicians warned when the abolition of nuclear tests that the abolition of ground tests will lead to the fact that the world will forget about the dangers of nuclear weapons and cease to fear them, which will ultimately lead to fatal consequences
  7. Chaldon48
    Chaldon48 2 November 2019 08: 46
    +2
    Nobody being in their right mind will try to put something like that into practice, but there is one "but" made it clear to everyone that since we were able to create something similar, it means we can create something smaller and more convenient to use, and not only in the form of an aerial bomb.
  8. Basarev
    Basarev 2 November 2019 08: 48
    -16
    And in a sense, the Spaniards are right. It makes no sense to talk, especially weapons, when half the country lives in dugouts and barracks. First, establish a peaceful life before meddling in a war.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 2 November 2019 12: 32
      +1
      Liberal, shut up ...
      Before constructing a "new life", it is necessary to organize a belt of protection of this life from any foreign creature that has territorial claims to Russia and an envious look at its resources - only then can one plunge into the creation of a "new life" ...
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 2 November 2019 12: 48
        -1
        The example of Singapore is the opposite. It was thanks to close cooperation with abroad that he was able to rise from a poor island in the Asian mound to one of the richest and most developed countries. And so everybody rose without exception — Germany, Japan, South Korea, even China — remember that all his progress began precisely when Xiaoping began to come to an agreement with the West and curtail socialism.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 2 November 2019 13: 41
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          The example of Singapore is the opposite. It was thanks to close cooperation with abroad that he was able to rise from a poor island in the Asian mound to one of the richest and most developed countries. And so everybody rose without exception — Germany, Japan, South Korea, even China — remember that all his progress began precisely when Xiaoping began to come to an agreement with the West and curtail socialism.

          Industrialization in the USSR also went with the help of the West and the United States, it is clear that it is not free.
        2. hydrox
          hydrox 2 November 2019 14: 09
          +1
          And what, China now under what system lives?
          Please stop speculating with archaic definitions 200 years ago :: the time has changed, all the concepts have changed :: if China wants today, there will NOT be ANYTHING NATIONAL left from Singapore (it is not there), but there will be one solid China for 7-10 years, but China needs Singapore, it needs a screen.
          And then :: how does the national idea of ​​the state differ from the set of services offered by a prostitute?
          And so is Singapore: when the bug is crushed, there remains only a vile spot - and nothing more, life just flows, for example, to Hong Kong, and for some reason Russia is more than a thousand years old ... laughing
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 2 November 2019 17: 25
            0
            In China, Western-style normal capitalism, from socialism there was only the red flag and the dictatorship of the party, but they will sort it out one day. The main mistake they make is to confuse normal Western capitalism and our Russian perversion. The truth is that normal capitalism is capable of making a very prosperous corner from any country - take a look at Poland, which right before our very eyes in terms of living standards is already catching up with Germany.
            1. hydrox
              hydrox 2 November 2019 20: 18
              0
              Liberalism is a brain defect :: what did you decide to discuss the advantages of Poland over Germany when it is a vulgar offtopic?
              And when the Chinese authorities want to regulate Chinese socialism, then US capitalism will no longer be alive - this is the question of the survivability of socialist approaches in the economy. laughing
        3. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 2 November 2019 19: 18
          0
          Comrade Dan would be offended if someone called him Xiaoping, that is, by name.
  9. lucul
    lucul 2 November 2019 08: 49
    +5
    In Spain, recognized the Soviet atomic "Tsar bomb" useless

    Pfff ....
    And they don’t want to recognize their idiotic bullfight useless? )))
  10. Jerk
    Jerk 2 November 2019 08: 49
    +2
    She just could be used - there were no goals for her. so yes - irrational. But the purpose of the creation was - the futility of developing any kind of protection against a nuclear explosion was shown to be useless. No bunker will save from this, the US message is clear - the USSR will get them if anything
  11. armata_armata
    armata_armata 2 November 2019 09: 00
    0
    Well, let's arrange tests whether the king will fly a bomb to Spain and if Spain has one bomb drinks
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 November 2019 09: 05
    +3
    the Soviet atomic "Tsar Bomba" was nothing more than a "Soviet bluff"
    Well, who, if not the Spanish author, knows for certain what this bomb really was. Even the Americans truhanuli at one time, and the Spaniards reacted to this not only optimistically, but also considered it a bluff. It turns out who prevented the start of a nuclear conflict in those years. The world applauds!
    1. Rostislav Bely
      Rostislav Bely 2 November 2019 09: 46
      0
      there is one nuance with the tsar bomb (product AN602, or Ivan) - they blew up the "Kuz'kina mother" (the third, lead shell, not uranium - the explosion was 2 times weaker in power - the shock wave went around the earth three times, but for a reason extremely high level of radioactive contamination)
      But all this talk is not about anything, since the Proton is a carrier reoriented for civilian needs (a 150 Mt warhead) and N-1 is a lunar program ...
  13. faterdom
    faterdom 2 November 2019 09: 16
    +4
    What a brave Don Pedro! Sorry, stupid, and so - very brave!
  14. serg.shishkov2015
    serg.shishkov2015 2 November 2019 09: 20
    +1
    Good Bon, since you are still afraid of it!
  15. Hog
    Hog 2 November 2019 09: 44
    +1
    You can immediately see the connoisseur, you do not know how not to take it.
  16. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 November 2019 09: 54
    0
    Had this "bluff" exploded in spain on the site of Cortez's homeland there would have been one big hole on the globelaughing laughing laughing
  17. Samaks
    Samaks 2 November 2019 10: 20
    -1
    Well, if NATO was pissed off during the Cold War, then there is definitely a benefit.
  18. Air force
    Air force 2 November 2019 10: 21
    -1
    What nonsense, given that the stripped-down version of 50% was tested and that was enough for the glasses to fly out in Norway, this bomb did its job, the Western mongrels got sobering for a while.
  19. bar
    bar 2 November 2019 10: 32
    0
    Chinese experts are tired, move on to Spanish?
  20. akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 2 November 2019 10: 45
    0
    VO, and you do not post the news with the opinion of military engineers who are active or not, but who fought the military ???
    Is it Spain recognized or another, albeit imported, unprofessional expert? Sakharov Dyrak, and Ishpan don Cesar de Bazan you have in your opinion, worthy of attention ???
  21. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 2 November 2019 10: 59
    0
    We also recognize Spain’s opinion on any nuclear weapon as useless ... as well as its army ... and its weight in world politics ...
  22. Prisoner
    Prisoner 2 November 2019 11: 53
    +1
    With headlines would be more careful. Spain recognized? And who specifically recognized? Scientific circles, authorities or maybe the military? Some loser-loser wrote a canoe, wanting to earn extra money for the kids on milk and then a storm arose in a glass of water. I’m ready to assume that this scribbler does not distinguish the reaction of fission of uranium from thermonuclear.
  23. Zeev Zeev
    Zeev Zeev 2 November 2019 12: 27
    0
    Yes, nobody prepared this bomb for a real war. They did a pure scare.
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 2 November 2019 12: 32
      0
      They did it for medals. Who to scare? From the other side did not know the price of the "practicality" of the device?
      1. Zeev Zeev
        Zeev Zeev 2 November 2019 13: 01
        0
        On the other hand, they knew that in the USSR they could make a big bomb. Were you afraid? Everyman yes, no professionals.
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 2 November 2019 13: 29
          0
          It’s not fascinated that the average person gets 50 mt bombs shorter than 5 mt)
  24. Old26
    Old26 2 November 2019 12: 32
    -2
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    Lord And these followers of Franco where with their opinion climb? !!!

    Guys! Why are you so excited? Well, the man expressed his opinion. Incidentally, the opinion is correct - the product is not suitable for a real war. We express our opinion about everyone in the world, why do others not have the right to do this? Or did you feel that he is a Spaniard? Well, if such a point of view would be expressed by a Kazakh, a Belarusian or a Russian? Would anything change?

    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    where with your opinion

    Firstly, it was not an experimental device, but a full-fledged bomb in the flesh with a carrier and real bombing. Secondly, it broke the Americans psychologically, they realized their hopeless lag in the nuclear arms race, stopped trying to increase power and in 1963 the Treaty on the Prohibition of Testing Nuclear Weapons in the Atmosphere, Outer Space and Underwater was signed in Moscow. When the Americans lose, they sit down for negotiations and bargain for parity.

    I agree with you. The device was no longer experimental, but it was still very far from combat. The piece that really drove the Americans to the negotiating table.

    Quote: hrych
    When the Americans lose, they sit down for negotiations and bargain for parity. So it was, and when they blew in ballistic missiles, they couldn’t make mobile, rail and heavyweight went lousy. And they sat at the negotiating table.

    Let's just say that the Americans are negotiating when they consider it profitable for themselves. For example, they agreed to the OSV-1 agreement only after the deployment of missiles with homing missiles began in the USSR. Before that, there were no creeps and they quietly increased the number of their warheads with the help of the RGCh
    They did not blow off ballistic missiles, if it is not a specific missile, but the prevailing parity. Moreover, you were far behind them in the creation and deployment of solid rockets. Yes, single products in the USSR had several times more casting weight than American ones, and the power of warheads. But power was a forced decision to compensate for less accuracy compared to American
    They made a mobile complex (railway) on the basis of MX. There were also options for a vehicle-based MX, but the "issue price", that is, the deployment price turned out to be very high. This we could pump in billions, creating hundreds of field positions for the BZHRK, replacing rails on the routes, deploying divisions. They considered that the costs would not give a leap forward in overcoming parity with the USSR. They just acted like pragmatists. Moreover, they made every effort to influence the leadership of the USSR / Russia to joke this weapon system.

    Quote: hrych
    Quote: 1976AG
    So let them shout

    But a product with a carrier cannot be called a bluff. Yes, the media was redone, so we have the right. They converted the Mig-31 into a dagger and that ... The most important thing is to deliver such a product both in a torpedo version and as a dumping container from a civilian ship, even then it was a reality. And by the way, the Proton rocket can drop almost 24 tons into a low orbit, and a hundred-ton charge weighing 27 tons would have conveyed to America. By the way, the bomb weighed 26 and a half tons, of which the parachute weighed almost a ton. But the warhead does not need it and the real weight would be 25 and a half tons. Actually, what is written about the Proton in the Wiki, where exactly in the first sentence it is indicated in the History of Creation. The military is above all. Those. The proton was originally the carrier of the Tsar Warhead. Ours then not everyone knows about this, what to say about gishpan laughing

    Rather, it can be called a "political" bluff. In fact, the product was created, tested. But from a military point of view, it was not unsuitable for war.
    The dumping of such a product from a ship was possible, but ... TTX torpedoes T-15 were very far from perfect. It would have to be dumped close enough to the United States and any carrier (boat or ship) would be a suicide bomber.
    About the "proton". You are right to reduce the weight of the warhead by the size of the parachute system. But you are forgetting one thing. The charge would have to be redesigned from a bomb to a warhead and it is not known how many tons (or tens of tons) the thermal protection of such a warhead would add. In general, a proton could "throw" it to America.

    Quote: hrych
    Quote: RUSS
    you can’t install such a whopper on a rocket

    Firstly, who prevented a dozen Tu-95s from being remade, like the MiG-31 under the Dagger.

    Nobody was able to prevent redoing a dozen. What is the point? With a 27-ton load, all the more beyond the bomb bay, and accordingly increasing the resistance, the TU-95 range was hardly sufficient to strike at the United States. Not to mention coming back. EMNIP intercontinental range TU-95 was achieved with a load of 9 tons

    Quote: hrych
    Quote: RUSS
    you can’t install such a whopper on a rocket

    Secondly, the Proton was created for this charge initially, and its cosmic abilities are only a conversion. He is able to cast this charge in the USA.

    Proton was not originally designed as a combat missile at all. The UR-500 Ural missile was proposed as an ICBM. Only 4 ICBMs were tested on which the Proton research satellites were used as payloads, which later gave the name to the launch vehicle. In 1964, Khrushchev at Baikonur was presented with a rocket model, based on the launch pad and in the mine. Khrushchev's decision was the construction of two such silos at Baikonur. However, the change in the country's leadership is a cross on the ICBM project. And in 1965, work on ICBMs stopped altogether. And the most important thing. According to TTT, this ICBM (UR-500 "Ural") was supposed to carry a warhead with a power TEN MEGATONS... The 100-150 megaton charge was supposed to be carried by the 11A52 "Nakat" ICBM based on the N-1 rocket.
    1. Town Hall
      Town Hall 2 November 2019 13: 30
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      Quote: Old26
      The piece that really drove the Americans to the negotiating table.

      What negotiations forced the miracle bomb to the Americans?
  25. Old26
    Old26 2 November 2019 12: 32
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    Quote: hrych
    Thirdly, the Tsar bomb exploded in half of the calculated charge and exceeded the calculation by 7-8 megatons. Who interfered with making not the calculated stoton charge, but the reduced half calculated. The bomb would become half (relatively) smaller and lighter.

    It would not have become "half" lighter. Lighter, but still would not be adapted to use the TU-95 as a carrier. The warhead, yes, would have acceptable weight and dimensions. But not a bomb

    Quote: hrych
    The next round is completed by our complete excellence in ICBMs.

    Soori, but you write nonsense. You determine superiority based solely on the cast weight of the ICBMs (in particular, on the cast weight of the R-36M family). And superiority is determined not only by one cast weight. There are a lot of factors. In particular, the readiness for launch, precision. We relied on heavy rockets with LRE, they are on light solid propellant. As a result of lagging in solid fuel rockets, we received rockets 20 tons heavier than similar American ones. So you should not make such allegations about the complete superiority of the Soviet ICBMs over the Americans. Caps are the easiest to throw

    Quote: hrych
    And the last point put Poseidon. And by the way, our Crimea because of Poseidon, our Syria because of Poseidon. 40 African kings and Erdogan bowed to Poseidon. Xi was elected king because of Poseidon. The EU is falling apart with Britain's brexet over Poseidon. Many do not understand this. And Poseidon is the brother of the Tsar-bomb .... the youngest.

    Do not wishful thinking. Poseidon is not yet a weapon system. It is more "virtual" than a real weapon. And what it is capable of will be shown only by testing this product in a complex. And you should not credit all the events in the world (indicated by you) to "Poseidon"

    Quote: Squadron
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    This Tu-95 was a specially upgraded version of the aircraft, which entered service several years earlier, which should

    That's right, but 100 megatons just did not fit into this even improved strategist .. I had to reduce the bomb to 50 ..

    The ballistic corps was one and the same. So in terms of size, none of the bombs (at least 50 mt, at least 100 mt) did not fit completely into the bomb bay
  26. Berkut24
    Berkut24 2 November 2019 13: 26
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    "Tsar Bomba" was nothing more than a "Soviet bluff" designed to intimidate capitalist countries

    All are strong in hindsight. The bomb intimidated the "capitalist countries", which means that it was effective even without use. And thank God that even without application.
  27. I am Biryuk
    I am Biryuk 2 November 2019 13: 50
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    Well, if the military feared the occurrence of an uncontrollable thermonuclear reaction when testing a bomb ... What prevents the creation of a 500-megaton bomb and detonating it right in Moscow when an attack is detected, crushing "the whole world into dust" ??? And no delivery means needed!
  28. Operator
    Operator 2 November 2019 13: 50
    +1
    "Radiation went into space", - ... ..., Lavrov (C)

    The American three-stage thermonuclear bomb B41 of the 1962 model of the year had a capacity of 25 tons with a weight of 4,8 tons and was released in a series of 500 units.
  29. Operator
    Operator 2 November 2019 14: 44
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    Quote: KCA
    150 kg of plutonium initiating charge changed to 150 kg of lead

    The thermonuclear charge of the Tsar bomb with a maximum design capacity of 100 Mtn included three stages:
    - the fission stage of plutonium-239 and a tritium amplifier weighing about 10 kg;
    - synthesis step from lithium deuteride-6;
    - fission stage from uranium-238.

    In the tested version of the Tsar bomb, with the actual power of 58 Mtn, the third stage of division (it is also the external X-ray reflecting shell) was replaced by a lead one to eliminate radioactive contamination of the surface of the land, sea and floating ice in the form of an ellipse 700 km long and 300 km wide in wind direction .
  30. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 2 November 2019 16: 09
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    If you shy away one such bomb in the middle of the Iberian Peninsula at full capacity, then there would be no Spain, and those who survived would envy the dead and swear at scribblers from the yellow newspaper, who had come up with a tale in their inflamed brain about the inefficiency of the Soviet atomic bomb))
  31. dimasik-nl
    dimasik-nl 2 November 2019 17: 43
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    When a hydrogen bomb explodes, no radiation contamination occurs due to the design of the bomb
    1. Operator
      Operator 2 November 2019 18: 18
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      Only if it is "hydrogen" - it is thermonuclear consists of two stages (like the exploded version of the Tsar-bomb), and not of three (as planned).
  32. nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 2 November 2019 19: 11
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    There can be no talk of any benefit to the Spaniards from this bomb, they will be smashed to smithereens with Portugal, and France will also get
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  34. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 November 2019 19: 49
    +1
    Gishpants, - the great masters of making nuclear bombs every siesta - adamant authorities. There’s a plug in any barrel ... Especially it gets to their closest neighbors - the Portuguese.
  35. Oleg (Kharkov)
    Oleg (Kharkov) 2 November 2019 20: 37
    +2
    So, by and large, the satellite launched in 1957 was not useful. He flew for 3 months at an altitude of 939 km from the Earth’s surface and bibal ... What is the use? It would be better just to steal money, right?
  36. datur
    datur 3 November 2019 01: 44
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    their jamon, does not affect my body at all, although the thing is tasty, but only for VODOVKU !!!! wink wassat drinks
  37. dmitrich
    dmitrich 3 November 2019 05: 48
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    they know better!
  38. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 3 November 2019 10: 30
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    Well, when the little one ... then it remains only to spit!
  39. NF68
    NF68 3 November 2019 17: 20
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    If this bomb fucked Spain, then the opinion about the futility of this bomb would instantly change.
  40. Siberian_54
    Siberian_54 4 November 2019 13: 54
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    Lord! Do not argue with the husk. Not with a local, not with a foreign one. The smaller the louse, the louder the peeps.
  41. Xroft12
    Xroft12 7 November 2019 11: 53
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    The USSR and America spent exorbitant budgetary funds to create equipment unsuitable for real military operations

    But at the same time, they gained invaluable experience, which made it possible to develop more serious and compact nuclear weapons