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Smoot. 1919 year. September — October 1919 years were the time of maximum success for anti-Soviet forces. The Red Army was defeated on most fronts and directions. The Reds were defeated on the Southern, Western, North-Western and Northern Fronts. On the Eastern Front, the last attack went Kolchak. The difficult situation was in Turkestan.



Volunteers entering a city


Soviet Russia in the ring of fronts


September and October of the 1919 of the year were the time of the maximum success of anti-Soviet forces. The Red Army was defeated on most fronts and directions. In August, Denikin’s army occupied New Russia and the Left Bank of Little Russia (Victories of Denikin’s army in New Russia and Little Russia) Almost the entire Right-Bank Little Russia was conquered by Petliurists. Polish troops captured the West Russian lands, reached the border of the river. Berezina. In early September, the Lithuanian army went on the offensive.

Miller’s White Northern Army launched a successful offensive on the Northern Front in September. Yudenich’s northwestern army at the end of September - October launched an offensive on Petrograd, fought stubborn battles at the Pulkovo Heights (Operation "White Sword". Beat at the heart of the revolution; "Do not give up Petrograd!") On the Eastern Front in September 1919, even the already defeated Kolchak army went on their last offensive (Pyrrhic victory of the Kolchak armies on Tobol) Kolchakites were able to repel the offensive of the 5 and 3 red armies, and push the enemy back to Tobol.

The Ural army, led by General Tolstov, was able in September to organize a successful raid on the rear of the Reds, the White Cossacks destroyed the entire headquarters of the 25 Infantry Division in Lbischensk, which was also the headquarters of the entire army group of the Red Army of the Turkestan Front, including the division commander Chapaev. As a result, the troops of the Turkestan Front lost control, decomposed and were demoralized. The red units hastily retreated to their original positions, to Uralsk. The Ural Cossacks recaptured almost the entire territory that the Reds occupied for three months. Belokazaki in October again surrounded and besieged Uralsk.

Northern front


The northern front was created by the British. Here, unlike the Northwestern Front, the British supported the whites in the most active way. In the Arkhangelsk region, interventionists lingered longer than in other provinces of Russia. This was due to the presence of huge stocks of military materials in the local ports created back during World War II, and Western troops landed to capture them. Part of these reserves were planned to be transferred to the Kolchak army. At the same time, the interventionists focused on the rear, security service. They were in no hurry to the front line. Only foreign volunteers, for example, Australians, fought on the front lines. Their detachment was formed from hunters who were well-versed in Russian forests and swamps. Mixed Slavic-British legions were also formed.

All attempts at offensive operations in the direction of Kotlas-Vyatka, conceived by the commander of the allied forces in the North of Russia, General E. Ironside, did not lead to success. The direction of the offensive to the east, in fact, is auxiliary, from the very beginning it did not promise success. The terrain here was mostly deserted, there were no material resources for supplying troops on the ground. A huge territory, a small amount of communications and impassable slaughter until the end of summer. A few roads, including railways, were well covered on both sides by sturdy outposts and fortifications, the breakthrough of which was worth great losses. Therefore, the war in the north was mainly positional, without maneuvering breakthroughs as in the south or east of the country.

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Australian volunteers in the Russian North



Captured Red Army guarded by the US military, Arkhangelsk


In January 1919, the Governor-General of the Northern Region became Lieutenant General E.K. Miller, and in May - the Commander of the Northern Army (before that, General V. Marushevsky was the commander). By that time, the number of the Northern Army totaled about 9,5 thousand people. Her formation went slowly. The officer’s core was weak and small (there were few officers in the North, most fled to the South of Russia). Due to the extremely low influx of volunteers into the army, universal military service was introduced, but this did not help much. The forced nature of the mobilization led to the fact that discipline in the army was weak, desertion flourished, there was the possibility of rebellion and the transfer of troops to the side of the Reds. This was facilitated by the fact that captured Red Army soldiers were included in the Northern Army. In addition, the British at first did not pursue a tough policy with respect to captive Bolsheviks and Red Army soldiers. Many directly from prisons were sent by volunteers to formed regiments, which strengthened the pro-Soviet sentiment in the troops.

This led to a series of uprisings at the front - in Pinega, 8-m North Regiment. In the Dvina fortified area, the battalion of the 3 North Regiment rebelled. The Dyer battalion revolted, where the command was mixed (British and Russian officers), the soldiers killed their officers. The 5th North Regiment on Onega rebelled, the soldiers led some of the officers to the Reds. There were other rebellions, or their attempts. They were crushed, but the situation was tense.

It is also worth noting that the inhabitants of the rich villages of the North, with their own fisheries, as well as the cities of Arkhangelsk, Kholmogor, Onega, where the illegal propaganda of the Bolsheviks and legal propaganda of the Socialist-Revolutionaries flourished, did not want to fight and did not support the interventionists and White Guards. The population as a whole was hostile towards foreigners. Thus, the social base of whites in the North of Russia was weak.

Despite all the problems, by the summer of 1919, the Northern Army numbered 25 thousand people (most of them were captured Red Army soldiers). British and Russian military schools were opened to train officers. In August 1919, the infantry units of the Northern Army consisted of six infantry brigades.

Meanwhile, the situation on the Northern Front has changed dramatically. The British press harshly criticized General Ironside, he was accused of the death of British officers, of excessive optimism about the sentiments of the Russian people and the Russian army. In parliament, there were demands to withdraw troops to their homeland. And the main declared goal, the connection with the army of Kolchak in the east, was not achieved. Kolchakites rolled back farther east. The plan for any connection with Kolchak’s army became impracticable. As a result, it was decided to evacuate troops from the North of Russia. In July, General Roulison arrived in Arkhangelsk to solve this problem.


Evacuation of allied forces from the Russian North


The British, together with the White Guards, carried out the last successful Dvina operation. And then the Westerners decided to evacuate. Unlike the French in Odessa, the British prepared well and thoroughly. Selected troops from the Scottish riflemen arrived to ensure the evacuation. The removal of troops provided the whole fleet. The British also offered to evacuate the Northern Army and take it to Murmansk, or to another front — the North-West or South. In August 1919, a military meeting of the Northern Army was held on the topic of evacuation.

There were many pros: there were practically no escape routes; in case of failure at the front, the army was doomed to death; when the navigation was completed, the sea froze, it was impossible to pass; the Russian ships did not have coal, but the British could not deliver it; the rear after the British left remained unsecured, the Northern Army did not even have its rear service; the commanders had doubts about the reliability of the troops. Therefore, almost all regiment commanders favored leaving with the British. A compromise option was also proposed: to transfer, with the help of the British, the most reliable part of the army to Murmansk. Take away all ships and supplies, evacuate the loyal part of the population. And then, relying on the rich Murmansk warehouses, to attack Petrozavodsk, helping the Yudenich’s Northwest Army in operations against red Petrograd. In case of failure, one could retreat from Murmansk - next to Finland and Norway, the ice-free sea.

The commander’s headquarters offered to stay. Like, the positions are strong, and it will be politically correct to stay in Arkhangelsk. The liquidation of the Northern Front will cause a resonance negative for the White Movement. It seemed impossible to retreat without strong enemy pressure and the threat of defeat, with success at the front (albeit local), with the support of part of the population. In addition, the command of the Northern Front hoped for the success of the white armies on other fronts. It was a time of maximum success for the White Guards. Successfully attacked Denikin’s army in southern Russia, prepared a strike on Petrograd Yudenich, and Kolchak was not yet defeated. Thus, an erroneous decision was made to stay and fight alone.

Instead of evacuation, the white command decided to organize a general offensive. In Arkhangelsk, the formation of militias of the Northern Region began, for the security service instead of the departing English. The offensive of the Northern Army began in early September 1919. Surprisingly, it initially developed successfully. The White Guards again captured Onega with the surrounding area. White has advanced in other directions. Thousands of Red Army soldiers were captured. The Red Command in this area did not wait for the active actions of the Northern Army at the time of the evacuation of the British. It was assumed, on the contrary, that White, after the departure of the patrons, would go on the defensive. Therefore, the enemy attack missed. In addition, the White Guards were encouraged by victories on other fronts, hoping that their advance would become part of a common victory.

At this time, the British evacuated and destroyed a huge amount of property and stocks that they could not take out. Airplanes, cars, ammunition, uniforms, provisions were drowned and burned. All this was done in broad daylight, with witnesses, causing painful sensations in the remaining. To the surprised inquiries of local authorities, the British replied that they were destroying the surplus, that the Northern Army had been provided with excess, and that the excess was being destroyed so that it did not fall into the hands of the Bolsheviks, since the British did not believe that the White Guards could not survive without them. On the night of 26 on 27 of September 1919, the last military Entente left Arkhangelsk, and on October 12 they left Murmansk.


Commander of the Northern Army Eugene-Ludwig Karlovich Miller


Turkestan: Basmachi and peasant rebels against the Reds


The Bolsheviks had a tight time in Turkestan. At the peak of its activity, the army of Madamin Bek Basmachi reached 30 thousand fighters and controlled almost the entire Ferghana Valley with the exception of large cities and railways. The second powerful force in Turkestan was the Peasant Army under the command of Konstantin Monstrov. Initially, it was formed from Russian peasant immigrants who created self-defense units to combat the predatory attacks of the Basmachis. At first, the Peasant Army was subordinate to the command of the Ferghana Front, collaborated with the Soviet government. At this time, the Monster army received material supplies from the Reds, weapon and ammunition. However, as a result of the Bolsheviks' anti-peasant land and food policy (bread monopoly, food dictatorship) and attempts to select the land of Russian immigrants in favor of dekhkans (Central Asian peasants), the attitude of peasant leaders towards the Reds changed. In addition, the Red Command, realizing the unreliability of the peasant formation, first tried to intervene in the internal affairs of the army, and then abolish the headquarters and subjugate the Peasant Army to itself. This caused a conflict, the headquarters of the Peasant Army refused to comply.

At the same time, one of the leaders of the Ferghana Basmachi, Madamin Bek, tried to lure the commanders of the Peasant Army to his side. He forbade subordinate units to attack Russian settlements and began to attack the Basmachi, who were noted in acts of terror against Russian peasants. In the summer of 1919, the leadership of the Peasant Army concluded a non-aggression agreement with Madamin Bek. Having learned about these negotiations, the Red Command twice tried to disarm the Peasant Army by sending several red detachments to Jalal-Abad (the center of the Peasant Army), but without success.

In June 1919, a bread monopoly was declared in the Turkestan Soviet Republic. In response, the military council of the Peasant Army finally broke with the Bolsheviks and revolted. In August, a meeting of representatives of the Kolchak army, the leaders of the Peasant Army and the leaders of the Basmachi was held in Jalal-Abad. The peasant army entered into an anti-Bolshevik alliance with Madamin Bek. The united army of Madamin Bek and Monstrov in September was replenished by Cossacks who arrived from Semirechye.

In addition, a new front arose in the western part of Turkestan - in the Khiva Khanate. There, one of the leaders of the Basmachi, Dzhunaid Khan (Mohammed-Kurban Serdar), overthrew and killed Asfandiyar Khan, put in his place a puppet - the brother of Asfandiyar Khan, Said Abdullah Khan (reigned before 1920). Dzhunaid Khan, having received military assistance from the army of Kolchak, began the war against Soviet Turkestan.

In early September, the combined anti-Bolshevik forces captured the city of Osh. On the side of the Peasant Army crossed some red detachments. The commander of the Ferghana Front, Safonov tried to crush the rebellion, but was defeated. After the capture of Osh, the rebels launched an offensive on the cities of Andijan and Skobelev (now Ferghana). The siege of Andijan continued until September 24. The Andijan garrison, where there were many internationalists, stubbornly resisted. The rebels were able to take almost the entire city, except for the fortress, where the remains of the garrison hid.

True, the success of the uprising was short-lived. At this time, the Red Command, sent reinforcements to Ferghana. To help from the Trans-Caspian Front, the Kazan consolidated regiment arrived, transferred to Andijan on 22 of September. Also from Skobelev arrived a detachment of Safonov. The Reds scattered the rebels near Andijan. For the most part, rebel peasants begin to scatter home. The peasant garrison, which remained in the city of Osh, having heard about the defeat near Andijan, also fled. At the end of September 1919, the Reds occupied Osh and Jalal-Abad without much resistance. At the same time, the rebels still had an advantage in most rural areas, and the red ones in cities and the railway. The remnants of the Peasant Army and Madmin Bek’s Basmachi moved to the mountainous regions of Ferghana, where in October they created the Provisional Ferghana Government. He was headed by Madamin Bek, and Monstrov was the deputy. At the beginning of 1920, after a series of defeats, the Ferghana government "ceased to exist: Monsters surrendered to the Bolsheviks, Madamin Bek joined the Reds in March and was killed by irreconcilable Basmachi.


Commander of the Peasant Army Konstantin Ivanovich Monstrov. Source: https://ru.wikipedia.org/


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Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 2. December battle
Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 3. The January accident of the 11 Army
Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 4. How the 11 army died
Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 5. Capture of Kizlyar and the Terrible
Battle for the North Caucasus. CH 6. Furious assault of Vladikavkaz
How Georgia tried to seize Sochi
How the Whites crushed the Georgian invaders
The war of February and October as a confrontation between two civilization projects
How did the "Flight to the Volga"
How Kolchak's army broke through to the Volga
Catastrophe of the Don Cossacks
Verkhniyon uprising
How "Great Finland" planned to seize Petrograd
"All to fight with Kolchak!"
Frunze. Red Napoleon
The missed opportunities of the army of Kolchak
May offensive of the Northern Corps
How white broke through to Petrograd
Battle for the South of Russia
Strategic change on the southern front. Manych operation
Crimea on fire Russian distemper
Crimea in 1918-1919. Intervents, local authorities and whites
How did the uprising of ataman Grigoriev
Nikifor Grigoriev, "ataman of the rebel forces of Kherson region, Zaporizhia and Tavria"
Odessa operation ataman Grigoriev
Uprising in the Ukraine. How failed the “Blitzkrieg” of Grigorievka
Ufa operation. How were defeated the best parts of the army of Kolchak
Moscow campaign army Denikin
"All to fight with Denikin!"
Battle of the Urals
The defeat of the Siberian army. How the Red Army liberated Perm and Yekaterinburg
The defeat of Kolchak in the Chelyabinsk battle
August Counterattack of the Southern Front
The battle for Siberia. Recent operations Kolchak
Pyrrhic victory of the Kolchak armies on Tobol
Operation "White Sword". Beat at the heart of the revolution
"Do not give up Petrograd!"
General battle for Russia
Avalov Army Campaign in Riga
The defeat of the Kolchak armies in the second battle on Tobol
Victories of Denikin’s army in New Russia and Little Russia
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  1. lucul
    lucul 4 November 2019 06: 17
    -6
    Just think about it - the civil war of those Lechs, many did not agree with the revolution, many went out to defend (not by order, but of their own free will) the existing tsarist regime and their good, and in 1991 no one went out to defend the communist system.
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 November 2019 06: 56
      +9
      Quote: lucul
      many went out to defend (not by order, but of their own free will) the existing royal regime

      Tsarist regime? Akstite ... Monarchists were VERY few. And in general, those who came out that there were not enough to defend against the "red threat", they were divided by political squabbles and a lack of understanding how to overcome this in order to win. Unlike the "red" side
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 4 November 2019 15: 18
      +4
      Quote: lucul
      Just think about it - the civil war of those Lechs, many did not agree with the revolution, many went out to defend (not by order, but of their own free will) the existing tsarist regime and their good, and in 1991 no one went out to defend the communist system.

      And who is interested and important now, especially when there is someone to blame ?! For many, Gorbachev and Yeltsin are to blame for the collapse of the Union, and the fact that no one came out with arms to defend the country seems to be normal, especially after the triumphant referendum on the preservation of the USSR. And now all responsibility has been laid on these two characters.
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 4 November 2019 06: 18
    +13
    How the young Soviet Republic managed to smash its many enemies and drive out all the invaders what just wonder
    1. svp67
      svp67 4 November 2019 06: 58
      +10
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      How I managed

      Having a militant, albeit small, party of people ready to make sacrifices and sacrifice others, one can achieve a lot ... And it's a pity that now people "in power"
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 4 November 2019 08: 47
      +9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      How the young Soviet Republic managed to smash its many enemies and drive out all the invaders. What a wonder

      Because many officers of the general staff (and not only) of the tsarist army supported the Reds, and not because they were for the Reds, but because they were for Russia. Remember, when the chairman of the Duma shouted that everything was gone, there was no one else to save Russia and the famous - "There is such a party" ... Thanks to their knowledge and skills, Russia was not destroyed and remained on the world map.

      The task of the army is to protect the country from external aggressors. The task of civilians is to form an adequate power that protects the interests of the people and country.
      1. Hantengri
        Hantengri 4 November 2019 21: 42
        +1
        Quote: Boris55
        Remember, when the chairman of the Duma shouted that everything was lost, there was no one else to save Russia and the famous - "There is such a party" ...

        Are you sure that this was precisely in the Duma? I give a tip (on a good one! laughing ): Key words here: "1st All-Russian Congress of Soviets" and "I. G. Tsereteli" (besides the word "Lenin", of course). hi
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 5 November 2019 08: 05
          +2
          Quote: HanTengri
          Are you sure that this was precisely in the Duma?

          This thought has already reached. laughing

          "From the diary of a congress participant S. Shulga:

          “At the moment,” Tsereteli categorically declares, “in Russia there is no political party that would say: give power to us, leave, we will take your place.”
          The hall was quiet. Tsereteli insists loudly:
          - There is no such party in Russia!
          And suddenly:
          - There is such a party! "
    3. your1970
      your1970 4 November 2019 10: 48
      -3
      Quote: The same Lech
      How the young Soviet Republic managed to smash its many enemies and drive out all the invaders what just wonder

      In the same way - how the unfortunate 5-10 of thousands of nationalists / Bandera managed to seize power in Ukraine ....

      Full support for the bulk of the population, that's all ....
    4. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 4 November 2019 15: 39
      -1
      Quote: The same Lech
      How the young Soviet Republic managed to smash its many enemies and drive out all the invaders what just wonder

      Here the Reds should be given their due - there were few of them, but they were more purposeful and united, and the whites did not draw conclusions from their rule between February and October 1917, and so they lost the country.
    5. RUSS
      RUSS 5 November 2019 15: 35
      -3
      Quote: The same Lech
      How the young Soviet Republic managed to smash its many enemies and drive out all the invaders what just wonder

      The interventionists themselves are gone.
    6. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 November 2019 17: 52
      -1
      "How did the young Soviet republic contrive ...?"
      ----
      There were two: Comrade Lenin and Comrade Trotsky. The first was in charge of politics, the second - in the army.
      One was lucky - he died early. And became an icon. The second was not lucky - he did not die on time. And he became an enemy of the people.
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    1. Same lech
      Same lech 4 November 2019 06: 21
      +11
      Honor and glory to the valiant soldiers of the Red Army who liberated Russia from foreign slavery!
      In the coffin, I saw the White Guards calling for foreign troops to our territory ... it is correct that their red pounded.
      1. bober1982
        bober1982 4 November 2019 06: 43
        +1
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        liberating Russia

        Dear Alexey, you are expressed in the old mode, letter i It was finally abolished precisely by the Bolsheviks in 1918, and for the period of 1919 it was to liberate RossiOnly White Guards could.
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 4 November 2019 06: 44
          +1
          (vladimir) I just rephrased the deleted comment as it is hi .
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 4 November 2019 06: 45
            +2
            And, my respect for you, with the holidays!
      2. svp67
        svp67 4 November 2019 06: 59
        +4
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        In the coffin, I saw the White Guards calling for foreign troops to our territory ...

        Here I CATEGORALLY disagree with you. They even called, but the "Reds" did not disdain to use the "international" units at all, the topic of the same Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese ...
        1. Same lech
          Same lech 4 November 2019 07: 03
          +2
          "international" units, the subject of the same Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese ...

          Well, these are not foreign troops ... military units from people of other nationalities ... they usually didn’t bother with famous Russians and acted extremely cruelly ... the same Latvian arrows ... reliable support of the Soviet government in suppressing various unrest in then society.
          1. svp67
            svp67 4 November 2019 07: 30
            +2
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            the same Latvian arrows ... reliable support of the Soviet government in suppressing various unrest in the then society.

            But what about the support of the masses? And do not forget that at that time, and the story is about 1918, the leaders of the RSDLP (b) and the Left Socialist-Revolutionaries who joined them did not speak about any state of workers and peasants, everyone dreamed of a world revolution and did everything for this, were ready, according to Trotsky's definition, to "burn Russia" for this
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 4 November 2019 08: 04
            -7
            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            Well, this is not foreign troops ... military units from people of other nationalities.

            You would have to learn the history of YOUR OWN country: in the year 1919 considered in Article, Latvia was recognized as the Bolsheviks an INDEPENDENT state. The Bolsheviks carried out the intervention there and fought there together with the Red Latvians, but were expelled from the country.

            And here is this expelled from their country Soviet Latvian army, army andforeign mercenaries and fought against United and Indivisible Russia - for its destroyers (see today's borders of Russia) of the Bolsheviks.

            The same story with the Estonian Soviet division

            in 1917, the Bolsheviks recognized the independence of the UPR and ... immediately carried out the INTERVENTION against it.

            Who saved the Bolsheviks from death in this 1919?

            Yes, these foreign hired parts, together with the Chinese and Polish nationalists and saved: in October 1919, a truce was concluded between the Poles and the Bolsheviks on the Western Front: this was done during the irreversibly successful liberation of the central Russian army from the anti-people government by accomplices of the German occupation ..

            Polish Nazis, who hate United and Indivisible Russia and fearing its success, immediately stopped fighting and entered into a truce.

            Latvians, Estonians, Chinese, and Red Ukrainians were removed from the Polish front and thrown red against Russia.

            In the near rear of the Reds attacking Russia, the Poles stood and calmly allowed their Red "enemies" to advance against the Whites.

            Quote: The same LYOKHA
            .they, as a rule, did not bother with the well-known Russians maybe and acted extremely cruelly ... the same Latvian arrows ... a reliable support of the Soviet government in suppressing various unrest in the then society.

            You talk so calmly about ... the massacre, constantly tripled foreign thugs against the rebels Russian farmers negative

            By the way, the beloved Latvian cutters so beloved by you are calm threw out their red banners, bows and ... returned to cap Latvia, where they successfully built capitalism.
            Some of these reds later "valiantly" fought in SS divisions-Everyone quenched their passion for killing Russians ...
            1. apro
              apro 4 November 2019 08: 22
              +4
              Quote: Olgovich
              Yes these foreign hired units

              More specifically, Olgovich ... what foreign states recognized the Soviet state and sent their military units to help the Bolsheviks?
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 4 November 2019 10: 20
                -2
                Quote: apro
                More specifically, Olgovich ... what foreign states recognized the Soviet state and sent their military units to help the Bolsheviks?

                belay
                HOW more specific ?!
                I repeat:
                in the 1919 article Latvia was recognized as an independent state by the bolsheviks. The Bolsheviks intervened there and fought there together with the Red Latvians, but were expelled from the country.

                And this Soviet Latvian army, expelled from their country, the army of foreign mercenaries and fought against United and Indivisible Russia

                the same thing happened with the so-called. Estonian Red Army: having received in the face in her homeland and being expelled from there, she with all ardor took up the massacre of Russian people in Russia.

                She played a decisive role in the occupation by the Pskov Reds, Estonian regiments fought against Kolchak, the Estonian division. together with the Latvians fought against Denikin, and Perekop stormed with them.

                Ukrainian soviet army (Ukrainian Red Army) (Ukrainian. Ukrainian Radyansk Army; Ukrainian Chervona Army) - regular armed forces of Soviet Ukraine during the Civil War in Russia

                Was formed on the basis of Decree of the Provisional Workers and Peasants Government of Soviet Ukraine dated November 30, 1918.

                Commander in Chief - V.A. Antonov-Ovseenko. Number - 188 thousand people
                1. apro
                  apro 4 November 2019 15: 55
                  +2
                  In general, from the foregoing, we have to conclude that the armies of the Baltic tigers were smashed to pieces by the armies of great Russia? At the end of the pmv, which is 10 mil.
                  In addition, Pansky Poland, with some kind of fright, should help the white movement? Can you tell me why? Is it very interesting to learn from an independent observer?
                  1. Moskovit
                    Moskovit 4 November 2019 20: 15
                    +3
                    Olgovich, as usual, begins to pull the owl on the globe.
                    He called the Latvian riflemen, who until the year 17 bravely fought against the Germans and were part of the imperial army, the invaders. By the way, delicately silent about white Latvian shooters (there were 10 thousand of them).
                    He also called the Ukrainian units as interventionists. This is not even funny.
                    Captured Magyar soldiers who fought for the Reds, according to various estimates, from 70 to 100 thousand, found themselves on the territory of Russia of their own free will. The fact that the whites could not attract these people to their side is a question for the whites. But he did not say anything about the bloody procession of the Czechoslovak corps through all of Russia. About the robbery of the Russian gold reserve and other exploits of the little brothers.
                    Olgovich continues to write about the Chinese from the series, someone once said somewhere. He was too lazy to find out that in fact, from the most optimistic estimates, from 10 to 15 thousand people took part in the battles. With the number of the Red Army in 1920 at 5 million. Even if the payroll. You can estimate the scale of influence.

                    Soviet historiography never hid the role of international assistance. On the contrary, exaggerating its significance in order to emphasize the world-wide character of the revolution. But for the Soviet side, these were not mercenaries, not invaders, but brothers and comrades in the struggle. They did not need Russian land, resources, power and other benefits. They stood on allowance like ordinary Red Army men. Feel the difference?
                    The vast majority of them returned home by staunch communists. Many later became active participants in the communist movement in their countries. Many suffered, especially the Hungarians.
                    Of course, among them there were crooks, criminals, and shifters, but the bulk were volunteers who fought not for the interests of their countries, but for the idea.
                    1. Olgovich
                      Olgovich 5 November 2019 10: 06
                      +3
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      Olgovich, as usual, begins to pull the owl on the globe

                      Just FACTS listed.
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      He called the Latvian riflemen, who until the year 17 bravely fought against the Germans and were part of the imperial army, the invaders.

                      For Moscow tankers, there’s another repetition (THIRD TIME!): Latvia is RECOGNIZED by the Bolsheviks as an independent state. Therefore, its parts are INTERVENTS, moreover, mercenaries for money
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      He also called the Ukrainian units as interventionists. This is not even funny.

                      The Bolsheviks who intervened against ...recognized them UNR, Latvia, Finland, Estonia.

                      Ukrainian. The Red Army is officially the Army of the Conspi Ukraine, not Russia.
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      according to the most optimistic estimates, from 10 to 15 thousand people took part in the battles.

                      Yeah, only 15 thousand. But the white Latvians-AZ 10 thousand (although this is nonsense) lol
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      With a strength of 1920 million in the Red Army in 5

                      50% deserters.
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      Captured Magyar soldiers who fought for the Reds, according to various estimates, from 70 to 100 thousand, found themselves on the territory of Russia of their own free will. The fact that the whites could not attract these people to their side is a question for the whites.

                      The enemies of Russia were attracted only by the Reds.
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      But for the Soviet side it was not mercenaries, not interventionists, but brothers and comrades in struggle. They did not need Russian land, resources, power and other benefits. They stood on allowance like ordinary Red Army men. Feel the difference?

                      You leave this LIE for the so-called "historiography" for your conscience.2 All these little animals had to choose: either to go to distant AMERICA to work, or to close Russia as mercenaries. And they went to EARNINGS in Russia.

                      As for the "comrades in the fight": You should go to Pytalovo and rummage in the ditches: it was there that they threw their own, which became unnecessary, revol. red banners and red bows, red arrows lett. returning home to Latvia to build ... capitalism. ...
                      Quote: Moskovit
                      The vast majority of them returned home by staunch communists.

                      And even fought in the SS.
                      And perhaps the most famous tyrnationalist who fought for Soviet power in Russia is the President Hitler Germany Tribunal ROLAND FREYSER member RCP (b) and ... NSDAP.

                      There he showed his Bolshevik training, engaging in torture and executions: “Our Bolshevik!” Hitler said about him.
                      1. Moskovit
                        Moskovit 5 November 2019 10: 31
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                        You value the word Mercenary dial on the Internet. What benefits, millions or jewelry did all non-Russian participants in the Civil War receive from the Reds? These are not your friends from the White House who left home with Russian gold and echelons of looted Russian property. You are stubbornly silent about them.
                        You can pick out individual degenerates who went to the service of the Nazis. Not that saints Shkuro, Mamontov and Krasnov.
                  2. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 5 November 2019 09: 33
                    +3
                    Quote: apro
                    In general, from the foregoing, we have to conclude that the armies of the Baltic tigers were smashed to pieces great army Russia? At the end of the WWII component of 10 mil.

                    And go to school? ALL Russian army. by order of the German invaders, was DISSOLVED by the Bolsheviks and sat home.
                    All except ... Latvian regiments. As stated agent of Germany and agent of the Gestapo (established by the USSR Armed Forces in 1936) yes . he is YOUR first person the so-called pre-Council republics lol laughing Leo of the Revolution Bronstein:
                    “A number of peoples have accounts for the Russian people, and this must be skillfully used in the fight against counter-revolution and other internal enemies”
                    .

                    So they used the ONE remaining reliable and fully combat-ready units in conditions anarchy and confusion in the country- and this huge advantage over thosewho did NOT want to pour fraternal blood in the Gr massacre.
                    Latvians, Estonians and Chinese guarded the Ulyanov Ypres Bonz, Smolny and the Kremlin, and NOT the Russian units.

                    They are the main punitive special forces of the Bolsheviks. bodies of the Cheka. they crushed ALL major demonstrations by Russian rebels and Russian authorities: they dispersed the U.S., they crushed Yaroslavl, Rybinsk, etc.
                    They were thrown, as a decisive force, against Kolchak, Deniuin, Wrangel.
                    Quote: apro
                    In addition, Monsieur Poland with some kind of fright should help White movement? Can you tell me why? Is it very interesting to learn from an independent browser?

                    WHERE about it at me? belay

                    They did not help MYSELF by stopping the attack on the Reds and giving them the opportunity to defeat the Whites, and then .... themselves.

                    But even this risk did not stop them: in bestial hatred of Russia, they teamed up with their red enemies.
            2. Sugar Honeyovich
              Sugar Honeyovich 4 November 2019 14: 02
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              Quote: Olgovich
              The Bolsheviks intervened there and fought there together with the Red Latvians, but were expelled from the country.

              You want to say that the same thing happened with the Reds in Latvia as the white ones in Russia? wink
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 5 November 2019 09: 36
                +3
                Quote: Sahar Medovich
                You want to say that the same thing happened with the Reds in Latvia as the white ones in Russia?

                belay
                what nonsense?
                1. Sugar Honeyovich
                  Sugar Honeyovich 5 November 2019 14: 43
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                  Quote: Olgovich
                  what nonsense?

                  The one that you publish here. You stated: "The Bolsheviks carried out an intervention there and fought there together with the Red Latvians, but were expelled from the country ... having got in the face in their homeland and being expelled ..."

                  The white allies intervened in Russia, the white in their homeland received in the face (the interventionists received at the same time), and both were expelled. The situation is one to one! In your description.
                  1. Olgovich
                    Olgovich 6 November 2019 09: 32
                    +3
                    Quote: Sahar Medovich
                    White allies intervened in Russia, whites received in the face in their own homeland (the interventionists received at the same time) both of them were expelled. The situation is one to one! In your description.

                    Oh yes, the Bolsheviks, the "winners" of the interventionists, yes! good lol Who, however, do not know about it and simply ... did not appear at the "battles" with the Bolsheviks.
                    And the neighbors received as much from them as they could gobble up: lands, millions of people, gold: Poland, Finland and even s ... Latvia with Estonia. belay
                    Thanks also to the Entente and the United States, which destroyed Brest betrayal, wiped out the Germans from the West and the Japanese from the east of the country ....
                    Quote: Sahar Medovich
                    The situation is one to one!

                    fool
                    Red Latvians got their faces in their homeland, settled down as red mercenaries in Russia, then threw their ... red banners and bows on the border with Latvia (if you rummage through a dump in Pytalovo, you can find these artifacts yes), raised the burgundy-white-burgundy banners and faithfully served capitalism.

                    The remaining several thousand in the USSR, to our satisfaction, were destroyed by the comrades in the struggle.
                    WHERE is the similarity? belay
            3. Looking for
              Looking for 4 November 2019 16: 22
              +1
              stop lying. liberate corrupt
        2. Sugar Honeyovich
          Sugar Honeyovich 4 November 2019 13: 56
          +1
          Quote: svp67
          The "Reds" did not disdain to use the "international" units at all, the topic is the Latvians, Hungarians, Chinese ..

          The same can be said of whites: Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Serbs, Kyrgyz ... Jewish units are also seen.
  4. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 November 2019 06: 35
    +5
    Good article! It shows very well that this was not a civil war.
    And then the answer is why they did not come to the defense in 1991. There was no external invasion, and the fifth column still depicts concern for Russia.
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 4 November 2019 06: 49
      +2
      for protection in 91 did not come out for completely different reasons. and the external invasion there was unlimited. entire republics of the territory left and captured.
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 November 2019 06: 58
        0
        If Yeltsin fought to preserve the integrity of the state, he would not see the highest power for him.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 4 November 2019 07: 40
          +2
          if before the year 91 the top leadership of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union did not engage in foolishness and betrayal, it would be even easier.
    2. Olgovich
      Olgovich 4 November 2019 09: 32
      -7
      Quote: Gardamir
      Good article! It shows very well that this was not a civil war.

      perhaps so: It was a war of Russia against the power of accomplices German occupiers, who seized power in Russia by force and even deprived it of their OWN name "Russia.

      And Russia fought for itself for many more decades: remember thousands of uprisings and uprisings and after gr. slaughter, MILLIONS of exiled "enemies" "of the so-called" people's "power, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS shot in .... PEACEFUL! ... antipeople's capitalists belay request lol

      By the way, tell us about the "Soviet-American fronts", the epic Soviet-French "battles" and the Soviet-Canadian "battles" lol

      And do not forget to condemn the USSR for the intervention in Iran in 1941, and Iran did not even think of sending gold and bread to Germany and returning 1 million prisoners for war, as the Bolsheviks did.
      Quote: Gardamir
      And then the answer is why they did not defend in 1991. There was no external invasion

      And here I agree: in 1941 the people came to the defense of the country precisely from a FOREIGN invasion (this was even realized by the co-commanders, who not without reason addressed the memory of the Russian heroes, whose monuments were recently blown up).
      But when it was necessary to stand purely for POWER in 1991, NOBODY did not stand up for it, incl. and you.

      It is simply fact
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 November 2019 15: 03
        +1
        Russian war against the power of accomplices of the German occupiers,
        With the money of the Americans. French, British, Japanese, using Czechoslovakians, Australians ... I know the topic, so do not get carried away.
        than .... anti-people capitalists
        Take an interest, at least for yourself, how many people Yeltsin killed in the fall of 1993. If you have a conscience, you will be horrified.
  5. Free wind
    Free wind 4 November 2019 07: 18
    -2
    Unfortunately I did not know this page of history, I am for ours !!!!!!
  6. BAI
    BAI 4 November 2019 20: 36
    0
    1.
    September and October 1919 were the time of maximum success for anti-Soviet forces.

    History tends to repeat.
    Having no experience, the Russian army was defeated near Narva, then to defeat the Swedes near Poltava.
    Inexperienced warrant officers and ordinary peasants with workers were defeated by the tsarist generals and the military estate - the Cossacks (and the professional interventionists who joined them), in order to later win the Civil War.
    In 1941-42, they were defeated by the best army in Europe (if not to say peace) to end the war in Berlin.
    Russian = Soviet army has an amazing ability to learn quickly when pressed.
    2.
    the inhabitants of the rich villages of the North, with their own fisheries, as well as the cities of Arkhangelsk, Kholmogor, Onega, where illegal propaganda of the Bolsheviks and legal propaganda of the Social Revolutionaries flourished, did not want to fight and did not support the interventionists and White Guards.

    This thesis deserves special attention.
    2.1. Owners of fisheries supported the Bolsheviks?
    2.2. Is there "legal" propaganda of the SRs on the territory of the White Guards and interventionists? Bolshevik propaganda in the occupied territories is illegal by definition. Or rather, prohibited. Something the authors (this author) got confused in the applicability of the terminology.
  7. teron
    teron 6 November 2019 16: 05
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    I read the comments. On the Day of National Unity.
    Well, we can assume that with the holiday we guessed - reconciliation is in full swing.
  8. tegezen
    tegezen 15 December 2019 08: 29
    0
    In fact, the Entente did not help the whites, but in every possible way interfered. For example, the Bolsheviks were arrested and sent to the White Army to decompose, Kolchak was also arrested by the Czechoslovakians who were under the control of the French and handed over to the Reds, etc. At Kolchak's headquarters, Sverdlov's brother Zinovy ​​worked as a representative from the Entente, it is clear for whom he worked. The White Army consisted entirely of Russians, and the Red Army was staffed with "internationalists", Czechs, Latvians, Chinese, Hungarians, Trotsky created everything, the leadership in the hands of the Jews. Not a single significant battle of the Reds with the "interventionists" took place, when the Bolsheviks strengthened, they quietly left.
    1. place
      place 27 December 2019 17: 07
      -1
      How didn’t it help? And under whose protection the Wrangelites were exported as many as 100 thousand people. from the Crimea?
      Why didn't their reds chop it up then? Who covered the evacuation of whites? What, probably, didn’t get this question?

      Yes, and the Germans helped. Who occupied the territory of Ukraine and the Don region in 1918? Heh ... heh ... Denikin would try to form an army in the territory controlled by Moscow ....
      And in 1942, General Krasnov, this number with the formation of an entire army in Ukraine - repeated.

      Where were the "white heroes" for 20 years, awaiting a new crusade against Russia? IN THE WEST, in Berlinchik and Parisik. So your brother, whiteguards scum, though not enough, but still the West helped. And now it also helps ....... But when they start hanging you, no one will help you any more, as no one helped the White Guard Krasnov in 1947. Pulled up on a rope.
      THE DEVIL HELPS ONLY TO THE Gallows, Mr. GOOD. And didn’t you know?