The “Thundering” corvette can receive hypersonic “Zircons” instead of “Gauges”

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The 20385 project “Thundering” in the future can be equipped with the latest Zircon hypersonic missiles. This became known during a visit to the ship by Russian President Vladimir Putin.

The “Thundering” corvette can receive hypersonic “Zircons” instead of “Gauges”




Vladimir Putin, while in Kaliningrad, boarded the Gremyashchy corvette, which is undergoing preparations for state trials. The President examined the premises of the ship and got acquainted with its armament and equipment. During a visit to the main command post of the ship, the corvette commander, captain of the second rank Roman Dovgailov drew the president’s attention to the “Thundering” nose, where the Caliber cruise missile launcher is located, while saying that in the future this installation can use Zircon hypersonic missiles "

In response to this, Vladimir Putin said that Zircon “will definitely be”, referring to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu. In response, Shoigu nodded his head. After that, the president left the side of the ship wishing the crew successful passage of state tests.

The 20385 Corvette Project “Thundering” is a further development of the 20380 project. Designed to detect and destroy surface enemy ships or submarines, organize landing, guard the coastal zone, escort other ships. Laid down in February 2012, launched in June 2017. Construction was delayed due to the non-delivery of German MTU power plants. The corvette was completed with Russian diesel units 1DDA-12000 of the Kolomensky plant. The unit consists of two 16D49 engines with 6000 horsepower.

Key Features:

• Displacement - 2200 tons.
• Length - 104 m
• Width - 13 m
• Speed ​​- up to 27 nodes
• Navigation range - 3500 miles
• Autonomy - 15 days
• Crew - 99 people.

The main armament is the Caliber missile system and the Uran X-35 anti-ship missile system

The ship is planned to be included in the Navy before the end of this year, the place of service is the Pacific Fleet.
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    1. -1
      1 November 2019 12: 58
      Let's! Let's! More! More! Faster! Faster!!!!!!!
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. -18
      1 November 2019 13: 00
      Or he can still get plasma guns, an intergalactic battle laser and a death star, but not earlier than 2050 (!)
      1. +13
        1 November 2019 13: 15
        The “Thundering” corvette can receive hypersonic “Zircons” instead of “Gauges”

        If this re-equipment takes place, then such corvettes will create a kind of zircon bracelet around Russia
        From advertising: A zircon bracelet is not only a decoration, but also an opportunity to raise your tone and improve your state of health.
        1. +4
          1 November 2019 13: 56
          Quote: Rich
          If this re-equipment takes place, then such corvettes will create a kind of zircon bracelet around Russia

          For experts (to which I do not classify myself of course) there are actually two points. The first is if. More suitable word when. When will this rearmament take place ... (without a question mark). And will it be so easy to integrate this rocket into existing systems? Will modernization be required? The fact that he will fit into the UKKS is one of the requirements, but, unfortunately, not the only one. The second point is will create around Russia a kind of zircon bracelet. Zircon, even if it confirms all the characteristics that are unofficially voiced by the media according to data from various sources, is not a prodigy that will make our navy invincible. These corvettes themselves will be quite vulnerable to underwater and airborne threats. That is why We need a balance of power throughout the Navy. Strengthening the shock component is only one of many tasks that need to be solved to enhance the potential of the Navy.
          1. +1
            1 November 2019 19: 38
            Quote: Rich
            From advertising: A zircon bracelet is not only a decoration, but also an opportunity to raise your tone and improve your state of health.

            The Ministry of Health of Russia does not have information about the therapeutic properties of bracelets. The Prosecutor's Office and the Antimonopoly Office at one time already issued verdicts to firms advertising the so-called. "zirconium bracelets" about dishonest advertising by deceiving consumers.
        2. 0
          1 November 2019 20: 49
          Quote: Rich
          If this re-equipment takes place, then such corvettes will create a kind of zircon bracelet around Russia

          ========
          Yes, even if just "calibrated" is also NOT BAD !!!
        3. 0
          2 November 2019 12: 51
          If this re-equipment takes place, then such corvettes will create a kind of zircon bracelet around Russia

          But the bracelet will turn out to be a bit watery: only two corvettes of pr. 20385 with UKSK have been ordered, and they do not plan to order more, and the "promising" corvette of pr. 20386 UKSK does not. The UKSK corvette is not needed, our admirals believe.
        4. 0
          3 November 2019 11: 39
          And what is the rearmament? Launch from one PU,
    4. -4
      1 November 2019 13: 08
      In two Zircons already hit. Judging by the fire - just in the hole
      1. +7
        1 November 2019 13: 10
        Quote: Jerk
        Judging by the fire - just in the hole

        But don’t go without a helmet!
        1. -2
          1 November 2019 13: 55
          it’s not in the head))))
          1. -1
            1 November 2019 14: 01
            As there in the old Soviet cartoon ... do not stand and do not jump where construction is underway or the load is suspended! wink
            1. 0
              1 November 2019 16: 46
              Quote: Serg65
              As there in the old Soviet cartoon ... do not stand and do not jump where construction is underway or the load is suspended! wink

            2. +1
              1 November 2019 20: 52
              Quote: Serg65
              As there in the old Soviet cartoon ... do not stand and do not jump where construction is underway or the load is suspended! wink

              =======
              "... You don't go there! You move here! And then the snag will hit your head - you will be dead! ......" (x / f "Gentlemen of Fortune")
    5. +12
      1 November 2019 13: 20
      All carriers of calibers can also use zircon launchers they have universal. So there is nothing surprising here. They just once again mentioned this during the visit of the commander-in-chief. So to speak, they gave a signal to the "partners" so that they would not be carried over.
      1. +3
        1 November 2019 13: 26
        Quote: A.K.
        they have universal launchers

        Are all targeting systems also universal?
        Py.Sy. Is not rise ... a sub-question, but a question. Since I am not a sailor, I have little knowledge of these systems. hi .
        1. +3
          1 November 2019 13: 46
          Are all targeting systems also universal?

          Both missiles are very far-horizon, so the ANN + RLGSN or GLONAS + RLGSN systems. Their heads are naturally different and target designation systems (coordinate input) should be unified. It is in theory
          and so secretly the monument can naturally communicate with zircon or not.
        2. +3
          1 November 2019 13: 56
          entering the coordinates of the targets is the same. the only difference is that Zircon is hypersonic. everything else is based on Caliber. from target designation and data entry, to PU.
        3. +1
          1 November 2019 14: 16
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: A.K.
          they have universal launchers

          Are all targeting systems also universal?
          Py.Sy. Is not rise ... a sub-question, but a question. Since I am not a sailor, I have little knowledge of these systems. hi .

          It is stated that Zircon can hit both surface and ground targets, which is not surprising, since Onyx demonstrated the defeat of ground targets in Syria.
          Russian President Vladimir Putin has confirmed that the Corvette project 20385 “Thundering” will be equipped with the latest Zircon hypersonic missiles. He stated this on October 31.


          “Zircon will definitely be,” Putin said at that moment to Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.


          The Zircon hypersonic missile is designed to destroy both sea and land targets. Its flight speed can reach about 9 Machs (10,7 thousand km h), the estimated flight range is more than 1 thousand km.
          In August, Boris Obnosov, general director of the Tactical Missile Weapons Corporation, said that Zircon missiles were being tested in Russia.

          https://iz.ru/938524/2019-10-31/korvet-gremiashchii-osnastiat-giperzvukovymi-raketami-tcirkon
        4. +1
          1 November 2019 20: 54
          Quote: Piramidon
          Are all targeting systems also universal?

          =========
          Oddly enough - YES!
          Because the "Zircon" took so long and passed the tests ....... It turned out to be too difficult to unify it with the "Caliber" .....
      2. +2
        1 November 2019 13: 58
        In general, some kind of confusion has formed. At first they said that Zircon is being developed in the same dimensions as Onyx, and therefore it will be launched through the same UKSK 3S14. Then there was an article that a "trimmed" version of the "Zircon" would be developed for the MRK pr. 22800, moreover trimmed both in terms of performance and size. What for? And to intermeddle in UKSK on RTOs ...
        Damn leg break, by golly
        1. 0
          1 November 2019 14: 04
          Quote: Wiruz
          Then there was an article that a "stripped-down" version of "Zircon" would be developed for the MRK pr.22800

          As I understand it, "Zircon" is not really present in either the "full" or "cut down" versions yet?
          1. 0
            1 November 2019 20: 33
            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: Wiruz
            Then there was an article that a "stripped-down" version of "Zircon" would be developed for the MRK pr.22800

            As I understand it, "Zircon" is not really present in either the "full" or "cut down" versions yet?

            Who will tell you all this about secret development? Although something sometimes slips through the press.
            The upgraded nuclear-powered cruiser Admiral Nakhimov will not miss the opportunity to use advanced anti-ship missiles, and so the Zircon supersonic anti-ship missile recently launched by the Navy was also mounted on the cruiser.

            According to data provided by Russia, the Zircon supersonic anti-ship missile uses a high-altitude flight path, which is why the maximum flight speed reaches 8 max.

            https://inosmi.ru/military/20191101/246142638.html
    6. VVK
      -4
      1 November 2019 13: 26
      I hope the air defense system for it has been finalized and tested.
      1. +2
        1 November 2019 13: 48
        Only the lazy one does not know about this. I'm talking about redoubts. Minus for laziness
    7. -6
      1 November 2019 13: 30
      Good tale, there are no rockets, but the carriers are piled up.
    8. -7
      1 November 2019 13: 38
      that’s interesting, but deceiving the President (or misleading) is criminally punishable?
      1. +2
        1 November 2019 13: 50
        Quote: Tlauicol
        that’s interesting, but deceiving the President (or misleading) is criminally punishable?

        Already sewing "business"?
        1. -4
          1 November 2019 13: 56
          Quote: Piramidon
          Quote: Tlauicol
          that’s interesting, but deceiving the President (or misleading) is criminally punishable?

          Already sewing "business"?

          I'm just wondering how they will get out
          1. -1
            1 November 2019 14: 07
            Quote: Tlauicol
            I'm just wondering how they will get out

            You are naive, man. When someone in the upper echelons was worried about how to get out without fulfilling promises? Scroll through all sorts of pre-election debates.
      2. 0
        1 November 2019 13: 55
        Hardly. Otherwise, I would have to for a variety of))) a whole ITK to designate. And who will be there to drag the service? With such clients .....
      3. +1
        1 November 2019 14: 04
        What’s the trick?
      4. +2
        1 November 2019 14: 18
        Quote: Tlauicol
        and deceiving the President (or misleading) is criminally punishable?

        This is not a hoax: two keywords are present “in perspective” and “may”. Or maybe it won’t! And then “in perspective”: when, in a year, two, five? Not all prospects come true.
        1. -1
          1 November 2019 14: 26
          You watch the video - there SAM itself so confidently says: there will be, they say, a point! And asks Kuzhegetich: will they be? Everyone is silent, but what can I say feel
    9. -2
      1 November 2019 13: 44
      Quote: Piramidon
      Quote: A.K.
      they have universal launchers

      Are all targeting systems also universal?
      Py.Sy. Is not rise ... a sub-question, but a question. Since I am not a sailor, I have little knowledge of these systems. hi .

      Once the Commander-in-Chief said, it means universal.
    10. +1
      1 November 2019 13: 56
      The main armament is the Caliber missile system and the Uran X-35 anti-ship missile system

      Well, show me where the Uranus missile system is installed on Project 20385, huh? Would you teach me, author, materiel
      1. NKT
        0
        1 November 2019 14: 40
        The author simply does not know that at 20380 - Uranus, and at 20385 - UKSK. From the 8th building, 20380 plan to replace Uranium with Gauges.
    11. 0
      1 November 2019 14: 03
      Just can get
    12. 0
      1 November 2019 14: 05
      Give a zircon caliber !!! We are Russians, God is with us!
    13. +2
      1 November 2019 14: 34
      The problem is that corvettes of the type 20385 are not going to build anymore, and 20386 is worse than 20380, because with the same armament, it does not carry towed GAS on a regular basis, and cannot take all its blocks on board at all ... In general, 20386 frankly a weak and overly expensive ship, almost equal in value to frigates 22350, and in terms of capabilities it is not suitable for soles ...
      1. -2
        1 November 2019 14: 50
        Generally 20386 a frankly weak and overly expensive ship

        Specifically, what is it weak?
        20386 worse than 20380

        What exactly is worse?
        Generally 20386 a frankly weak and overly expensive ship

        20386 can be called by its functionality a frigate, albeit with a stretch, and at a cost it is cheaper than Western counterparts.
        1. +3
          1 November 2019 15: 41
          Do you know how to read ?! Everything is written there ... 20386 is armed with anti-ship missiles Uranus, anti-ship missiles it can only carry a caliber instead of a helicopter, as an additional, temporarily installed weapon, but not properly ... The towed GAS 20386 does not carry on a permanent basis ... But it costs almost nothing just like frigate 22350, which is several times stronger and more useful for Russia ... 20380 carries towed gas on an ongoing basis and is cheaper, uses diesel engines rather than scarce turbines like 20386, which frigates lack ... 20385 uses a diesel engine, costs less than 20386, carries standard calibers and towed gas
    14. +2
      1 November 2019 14: 52
      There was news yesterday. I really thought: “Is there really no srach for HE about zircon?”
      Perspective branch. It is necessary to let it brew)
    15. 0
      1 November 2019 16: 21
      The main armament is the Caliber missile system and the Uran X-35 anti-ship missile system

      Come on. The news is not about anything.
    16. +1
      2 November 2019 00: 48
      the Supreme Commander came to the corvette and hurray, hurray hurray ..... (yes shame it) found something to write hypersonic rockets on the corvette are going to put ...... one shame and only, industry, government and the Ministry of Defense can not provide the fleet with decent ships that are befitting a great power (cruiser, destroyer. I’m not talking about an aircraft carrier) ...... the president has amer when launching the Avik, and our fleet turned into a bunch of frigates and corvettes ...... thieves the authorities robbed the whole country, and every boat that is launched (with a displacement of up to 3000 tons is considered a cruiser from Star Wars) is a disgrace ....
      PS. Well, at least some kind of movement and positive dynamics may soon begin to do something decent and proper!
    17. 0
      2 November 2019 13: 28
      More precisely in addition!

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