Military Review

Bundeswehr armored vehicles update. Leopard 2A7V goes to the troops

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On October 29, a solemn ceremony of the delivery of the first modernized main battlefield took place in Munich tank Leopard 2A7V. Now the companies Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall have to upgrade two hundred tanks of various modifications, which will result in a serious increase in the combat effectiveness of the ground forces. According to existing plans, by the mid-twenties, the Leopard 2A7V tank should become the basis of armored units.




Tank key


The ceremony of transferring the finished equipment took place on October 29. It was attended by representatives of the military and political leadership of Germany and Denmark. The latter, too, was to receive the first tank, which was modernized according to a modern design.

The “protagonists” of the ceremony were the MBT Leopard 2A7V and Leopard 2A7. The tank with the letter "V" (Verbessert - "Superior") was intended for the Bundeswehr. The Danish army, in turn, received its first Leopard 2A7.

In a festive atmosphere, the representatives of the contracting company presented the military of the two countries with symbolic keys to armored vehicles. In the near future, deliveries will continue, but the transfer of finished machines will be carried out without such ceremonies, in a working environment.

Two contracts


The Leopard 2A7V MBT modernization project was first presented to the public in 2016. It offers the replacement of parts of equipment and upgrades of weapons, after which the tank receives new capabilities and increases its characteristics. Quickly enough, the tank of the new modification passed the necessary tests and was recommended for adoption.

In the spring of 2016, the German Ministry of Defense announced new plans for the development of the fleet of armored vehicles. To strengthen the Bundeswehr by 2020, it was proposed to increase the tank fleet from cash 225 to 329 units. The construction of new equipment was not provided, but it was necessary to carry out repairs and modernization of existing MBTs, including according to the latest project "A7V".



In May 2017, KMW and Rheinmetall received an order to upgrade the first batch of Leopard 2 tanks. Prior to 2023, it is necessary to repair and upgrade 104 armored vehicles of various modifications. For this work, contractors will receive 760 million euros. Under the contract, the 20 Leopard 2A7, 16 Leopard 2A6 and 68 Leopard 2A4 tanks are subject to modernization.

The fulfillment of the 2017 contract will improve the tank fleet not only qualitatively, but also quantitatively. It is curious that of the hundreds of converted tanks, only 20 “Leopards 2A7” previously belonged to Germany. Armored vehicles of the 2A4 version were purchased from Sweden, and the newer 2A6 from the Netherlands. Thus, the contract will increase the existing fleet of armored vehicles by 84 "used" units.

In March 2019, a new order appeared for the repair and modernization of armored vehicles. KMW and Rheinmetall will receive 300 million euros for its implementation. The contract provides for the alteration of 101 MBT Leopard 2A6 and Leopard 2A6M2. These works should be completed before 2026.

German plans


Two existing contracts worth more than 1 billion euros provide for the modernization of 205 MBT Leopard 2 of various modifications. Equipment for their implementation will come from German armored units, as well as from third countries.

The purchase of tanks abroad and the return of equipment from storage will allow the Bundeswehr to fulfill the existing plans and to increase the tank fleet to 2020 units by 329. At the same time, the army will have to simultaneously operate MBT of various modifications, including quite old. The process of modernization of equipment for a new project will be completed only in the middle of the decade.

Thanks to the completion of work under the second 2019 contract, the German army will be able to change the structure of the tank units, bringing the share of modern technology to the required values. Also, the Bundeswehr will have some reserve equipment that can be used in the future.



According to two contracts, 2 vehicles of other modifications will be converted to Leopard 7A205V tanks. They will be equipped with four tank battalions in the future. Two more battalions will continue to operate the older Leopards of the 2A6 modification - of the order of 90 units. 32 of the obsolete Leopard 2A4 will be sent for storage.

Features of modernization


The Leopard 2A7V project offers the most serious modernization of the basic MBT with the replacement of the mass of devices and instruments. The hull and turret, armament and fire control systems, power plant, etc. are being refined. It is also planned to introduce some fundamentally new devices and products.

However, some features of real serial modernization remain unknown. The Bundeswehr, KMW and Rheinmetall have not yet specified exactly which innovations are used in the mass update of technology. In addition, there is evidence of a “mixed” approach to the modernization of tank weapons. Nevertheless, in general MBT Leopard-2 should receive a host of new systems and devices that positively affect their characteristics.

The survivability of the tank is proposed to increase due to the new mine reservation on the bottom. The hull and turret may be equipped with Saab Barracuda coating. The main engine is not replaced, but supplemented by an auxiliary power unit of the Steyr M12 type for power systems. The habitable compartment receives air conditioning and a new Thales SOTAS intercom.

It is proposed to replace the standard 120-mm smoothbore gun with a modernized Rh-120 L55A1 gun of increased power. According to some reports, only updated Leopard 2A4 tanks, which are carrying a standard 44 caliber gun, will receive such weapons. The newer 2A6 and 2A7 initially had an 55-caliber barrel, and they decided to leave them without an upgraded gun.

All the main instruments of the tank are combined with the combat information and control system IFIS. It is planned to modernize the fire control system, including replacing sights and updating computing tools. In connection with the introduction of new ammunition with a programmable fuse, tanks will receive a MKM system programmer.


Leopard 2A7 before the upgrade


According to the results of the latest MBT modernization, Leopard 2A7V retains maximum external resemblance to machines of previous modifications, but receives significant advantages of a tactical, technical and operational nature. In addition, due to the repair, the resource is extended.

Tank of the near future


The Leopard 2A7V project was created with the aim of updating the armored vehicles of previous modifications in accordance with current requirements, challenges and threats. With its help, it was proposed to modernize the fleet of military vehicles, extending their resource and providing the possibility of service over the next several decades.

It is expected that by 2026 the Bundeswehr tank fleet will undergo major changes. It is planned to increase the number of MBT by almost a third, as well as adjust the shares of equipment of different models. Almost two-thirds of all tanks will be related to the latest modification of the 2A7V. The share of older machines will decrease as a result of modernization or storage.

The appearance of the Leopard 2A7V project and the subsequent modernization will maintain combat efficiency until the appearance of fundamentally new main tanks. Replacement for the "Leopards-2" will appear only in the mid-thirties. During this period, Germany and France are going to complete the development of the promising MGCS tank and launch its production. Over the next few years, it will be possible to carry out a complete replacement of equipment.

However, until the advent of a completely new MBT, a decade and a half remains, and the current Leopard 2A7V machines have yet to serve. KMW and Rheinmetall have already set up the process of upgrading the available tanks for the new project and have already handed over the first modernized armored vehicle to the customer. Thus, the Leopard-2 tanks remain in service - and for many more years they will form the basis of the Bundeswehr's striking power.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 1 November 2019 18: 07
    +3
    Where to sign up for testing this "unkillable"? belay
    1. Leopold
      Leopold 1 November 2019 21: 19
      +3
      Alexey, everything in the article is true, but not all. When in the 90s they were hit by the 72s, they fired at Leo from him and immediately began to "scratch his turnips." So there were not the most advanced, in the NNA. Since then, there has been a wave of modernization. Only now it is not counted in thousands. hi
  2. Jerk
    Jerk 1 November 2019 18: 14
    0
    Well, modernizing Leoperd is a breakthrough!
    In the morning I read that complete collapse when the T-80s are being modernized ... Already two articles on the same topic were why modernization in the Russian Federation is the end of the world. Don’t leoperd!
  3. Lexus
    Lexus 1 November 2019 18: 14
    -3
    The essence of the performance in an anechoic chamber, and even with personal belongings a la "for adults" store, is not clear. Did they play "Euro-huts" with the lights off before that?
  4. Potato
    Potato 1 November 2019 18: 19
    +1
    $ 7 million for repairs, new paint, a sight, a walkie-talkie and a Kevlar bottom pad? Yes, for the money you can buy a new helicopter what
    Oh, and these shaggy Germans!
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 1 November 2019 18: 35
      +10
      Oh, and these shaggy Germans!
      They prefer to pay with money, not with their lives.
      1. Jerk
        Jerk 1 November 2019 18: 59
        -2
        Especially in Afghanistan, for the USA, where they Germans do not need nichrome, but they pay with their lives:
        https://www.dw.com/ru/немецкие-солдаты-в-афганистане-в-четверг-погибли-подорвавшись-на-фугасе/a-5474881
        1. ma-monthly
          ma-monthly 10 January 2020 17: 07
          -1
          Yes, yes, stupid, they climb Europe in 43-45, then in Afghanistan in 2001-2020, forever they can’t sit still.
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 1 November 2019 18: 59
        0
        what kind of lives?))) where is the Bundes fighting?)
        1. Jerk
          Jerk 1 November 2019 21: 09
          +3
          Learned to read? Above is a link to Deutsche Welle. Or what is not a training manual - not kosher?
      3. Alien From
        Alien From 1 November 2019 20: 45
        -2
        That hit the point right))))
    2. mark1
      mark1 1 November 2019 18: 51
      0
      205 "Leopards" not 2300 "Armat" (according to the plan), you can also cover with gold, so as not to rust.
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 1 November 2019 19: 05
        +5
        205 "Leopards" not 2300 "Armat" (according to plan)
        Well, firstly, the plans have changed long ago, secondly, the existing 205 "Leopards" are in the hands of real guys from Germany, much more serious than any paper plans.
        1. mark1
          mark1 1 November 2019 20: 13
          0
          Quote: MoJloT
          205 "Leopards" in the hands of real guys from Germany,

          Why would such a pity for the German "real boys"? For 75 years, they have never been seen in real battles, and if they were present somewhere due to a misunderstanding. then they did not show themselves. And the plans, although they have changed a lot, have not been canceled.
          1. MoJloT
            MoJloT 5 November 2019 09: 54
            0
            For 75 years, they have never been seen in real battles.
            No one before the first and second world warriors participated in such meat grinders, however, of all the participating countries, the Germans showed themselves to be one of the best. If "we can do it again", they probably too ...!?
            1. mark1
              mark1 5 November 2019 12: 23
              -1
              The German military genius grew out of Prussian militarism and was fully formed when Prussia united Germany into an empire. Both world wars are wars of empires (otherwise they would simply not have been world wars). There are no Prussians now, there is no German empire, no ideology, no generations of military theorists, no combat experience (the Prussians fought continuously), 75 years of prosperity, the nation dissolves in migrants. The German Armed Forces are well-trained, well-fed, domestic servants who, prior to the combat experience and the spirit of the soldiers of Prussia and the Wehrmacht, are as much as the North Star. Their destiny is to be part of a combined army under the strategic and operational leadership of the Americans. But these guys, by virtue of their experience, deep theoretical and practical training, are very dangerous even though we chuckle at them.
              1. MoJloT
                MoJloT 5 November 2019 15: 25
                -1
                German military genius grew out of Prussian militarism
                Well then, you take it finely, I propose to begin to consider the military genius from the battle of Arausion.
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                2. mark1
                  mark1 5 November 2019 17: 14
                  0
                  Quote: MoJloT
                  I propose to begin to consider the military genius from the battle of Arausion.

                  Yes, consider from wherever you want even from Arausion, even from the Teutoburg forest, even from the Battle of the Ice))). From wherever it starts, at the moment it has faded.
                  1. MoJloT
                    MoJloT 5 November 2019 17: 36
                    0
                    Give them a chance to remember who they are, and they
                    went down
                    great buzz spelled.
                    1. mark1
                      mark1 5 November 2019 17: 38
                      0
                      Take care of your forehead
                      Quote: MoJloT
                      great buzz spelled.

                      wink
          2. ma-monthly
            ma-monthly 10 January 2020 17: 08
            -1
            whether it is "tank biatolon", yeah.
      2. 3danimal
        3danimal 9 November 2019 17: 57
        0
        You forgot to add "by 2020" (as you promised). So in six months or a year we will become the owners of the largest number of tanks of the last generation;)
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 1 November 2019 19: 04
      +8
      Anton, their average salary in the defense industry is higher than the industry average. Uralvagonzavodskie about Gazprom s / n can only dream of. And the order is small. $ 7 million is with the gun, without it $ 3 million (on the A6 and A7 it already costs).
      The Leopard 2A7V project offers the most serious modernization of the basic MBT with the replacement of the mass of devices and instruments. The hull and turret, armament and fire control systems, power plant, etc. are being refined. It is also planned to introduce some fundamentally new devices and products.

      There are actually a lot of improvements; they simply are not detailed in detail. Not announced and the delivery kits.
      In principle, it can be compared with the modernization of the T-72B3 for $ 1,2 million (in 2016, I did not find a fresh one) and recalculated at purchasing power parity, as we like to GDP from real $ 1,6 billion to mythical $ 4,2 billion. " ", or rather to inflate. it will turn out to be $ 3.2 million. But even a panorama and a second thermal imager were not enough, not to mention the "slotted" DZ and "shaggy" (supposedly new, for example, 1A40-4 and R-168) hardware solutions.
      https://bmpd.livejournal.com/1695164.html
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 1 November 2019 19: 13
        +2
        Yes, any processing is not worth it in fact to get gold cars with it not new but modernization of existing ones. I don’t understand at all with such a meager amount of combat-ready equipment such a waste. this is the stupidity of pure water. with intensive training, the cost of their service will be generally sky-high. as a result, last year, and out of the entire fleet, there were less than a hundred fully operational. conditionally combat-ready about 80. and now this stupidity. well, they have a lot of money, let them fool around.
        1. Private-K
          Private-K 1 November 2019 23: 02
          +1
          7 million euros worth 160,5 kg of gold at today's price.
      2. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 2 November 2019 09: 00
        -1
        4 million dollars worth of new guns ???
    4. Alien From
      Alien From 1 November 2019 20: 44
      -6
      But this is a technique, not a set of low-quality spare parts!
    5. Alien From
      Alien From 1 November 2019 20: 44
      -3
      But this is a technique, not a set of low-quality spare parts!
    6. Observer2014
      Observer2014 2 November 2019 10: 47
      +2
      Quote: Potato
      $ 7 million for repairs, new paint, a sight, a walkie-talkie and a Kevlar bottom pad? Yes, for the money you can buy a new helicopter what
      Oh, and these shaggy Germans!

      Rich. In Germany, the workforce that all of these manipulations you described makes money with the tank not at Russian rates. Therefore, you don’t have to worry about their expenses. They can afford it. Moreover, if Germany stops subsidizing the EU countries and spends on their army, then everyone will have no time for laughter and sarcasm.
      1. Old Skeptic
        Old Skeptic 3 November 2019 02: 43
        +1
        Germany cannot afford not to subsidize the EU. Otherwise, the economy of Germany arrives northern fox
    7. Quadro
      Quadro 2 November 2019 21: 40
      0
      How many fans of the Wehrmacht heir in the comments. It is very convenient to justify the drank dough with the words "we pay with money, not with lives", or "but if they did not feed Poland, then they would have a military soldier", that's just something 1 the EU economy has an army with disgusting security, a mess, a bunch of faulty equipment and a gynecologist at the head. By the way, fans of leopards hike do not know that about half of them are simply being repaired, or they are not able to fight at least some kind of battle, and I don’t remember that we have a T-72, the same modernized one with such fanfare, was presented at the stands.
  5. Corn
    Corn 1 November 2019 19: 33
    0
    They would have put KAZ during modernization, otherwise what is the point of expensive supertanks that are easy to burn even from a grenade launcher ...
    1. Private-K
      Private-K 1 November 2019 23: 05
      +1
      By the way, yes. Without expensive KAZ, the 7-millionth modernization does not look quite aesthetically pleasing and smells like a drink of Volkswagen money.
  6. Durman_54
    Durman_54 1 November 2019 20: 03
    +7
    2A7V ...
    A7V ...
    Where we started, to that we came.
    1. Gato
      Gato 2 November 2019 01: 35
      0
      smile Also drew attention .. Continuity, however
    2. picus
      picus 2 November 2019 01: 47
      0
      Thank you, got it ...)))
  7. Basarev
    Basarev 1 November 2019 20: 26
    -4
    And for us, damn it, only the seventy-two under the guise of renewal are being taken out of conservation only, as one article here says.
    1. Private-K
      Private-K 1 November 2019 23: 03
      0
      These Leo-2 and Soviet-Russian T-72B / A and T-80B - peers 1980s release.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 2 November 2019 08: 45
        0
        In addition to the notorious technical superiority of even the basic Leopards-2, it is worth considering that the A7V is a very large modernization, perhaps even larger than the T-90M, and, most importantly, Mass. This is not a dozen parade cars for you when, as in a system, old junk that has never been modernized.
        1. Private-K
          Private-K 2 November 2019 08: 55
          +1
          In addition to the notorious technical superiority of even the basic Leopards-2

          From here in more detail: what "technical superiorities" of Leo-2 over T-80B, T-64B, T-72A / B do you know? Which of these hypothetical "technical superiorities" significantly enhance the real combat potential of Leo-2 in comparison with the indicated Soviet peers.

          A7 is a very large modernization, perhaps even greater than the T-90M, and, most importantly, Mass.

          Of course, you are ready to show and prove your thesis in detail, point by point. And the content of modernization. And by how this will increase the real combat potential of the vehicle. And we are ready to share data on the plans for the modernization of the Russian Federation of previously released T-90s into T-90Ms, and so that there are just a few dozen of them. And then even the "minor" T-80Bs have already been upgraded into the T-80BM for more than six dozen and are going to be more and more.

          And, finally, the most important thing: you tried to petty manipulate the mind of the reader, referring to the "old age" of the modernized Soviet tanks. But it turned out that the German tanks were no less old. Can you comment on this?
          tongue
          1. Hog
            Hog 2 November 2019 15: 05
            0
            From here in more detail: what "technical superiorities" of Leo-2 over T-80B, T-64B, T-72A / B do you know? Which of these hypothetical "technical superiorities" significantly enhance the real combat potential of Leo-2 in comparison with the indicated Soviet peers.

            Reverse 30 km / h, this is not for you on the T-72/90 rolling back with their 5 km / h
            As part of the project, Rheinmetall is upgrading 2 Leopard 7A68, 2 Leopard 4A16 and 2 Leopard 6A20 tanks to 2A7V standard

            The T-90M seemed to be promised a hundred and after modernization it will finally have 30 km / h reverse gear.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 2 November 2019 15: 34
              -2
              Quote: Hog
              Reverse 30 km / h, this is not for you on the T-72/90 rolling back with their 5 km / h

              On the field? On the tank in reverse - 30 km / h ??! belay

              Yes you, my friend, extremal laughing
              1. Hog
                Hog 3 November 2019 02: 15
                -1
                On the field? On the tank, in reverse - 30 km / h ??! belay

                Imagine there are different fields and besides them there are enough surfaces on which tanks have to drive.
                Recall Syria and how there, after a shot, 72ka barely crawls in reverse, and the T-90M does it many times faster (like the same Leopard), and the cost of this crew’s life and nothing funny is there (although you probably know better from the sofa) .
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 3 November 2019 02: 37
                  -2
                  Quote: Hog
                  Imagine there are different fields and besides them there are enough surfaces on which tanks have to drive

                  In granite. At your leisure, look at what VUS 021101 is. Are you related? I'm yes wink

                  Quote: Hog
                  Recall Syria and how there after a shot 72ka barely creeps in reverse

                  Let's go to the studio. It would be interesting to assess the situation.

                  Quote: Hog
                  and the T-90M will do it many times faster

                  Not always, and not everywhere. Not everywhere. Almost nowhere and never yes

                  Quote: Hog
                  the price of this crew life

                  Woof no need to catch. And you need to look, with four eyes - there are just so many of them, commander and gunner. In this sense, by the way, these little things are much more useful, check out:


                  Quote: Hog
                  you probably know better from the sofa

                  Not. Your sofa is much higher, the hike ... you can see further laughing
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                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 4 November 2019 00: 02
                      +1
                      Quote: Hog
                      You know how to look in all directions at once, then you congratulate the only one, ordinary people don’t know how

                      I can do a lot of things, not just your name wink

                      And also - as in the video - tanks use only finished ... Arabs. There twice done exactly how to do do not laughing

                      Quote: Hog
                      from this the mind does not increase

                      Yes, where already there ... pure skill laughing

                      Young man, calm down and play further at HERE. Ministry of Health warned, if wink
                      1. Hog
                        Hog 4 November 2019 00: 05
                        0
                        There two times done exactly the way you do not need

                        In battle, the enemy must have your permission to ask whether they will shoot at you or not, otherwise you’re standing on board.
                        HERE

                        What is that?
                      2. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 4 November 2019 00: 14
                        +1
                        Quote: Hog
                        Probably in battle ...

                        For some reason, I brought the numbers there ... I was taught how to do it right. If it doesn’t reach you, then you are that radio station. On the armored train which.

                        I repeat - in the video - purely Arab show-offs. Normal people don’t do that. Try not to do that, at least. With all my might laughing

                        Quote: Hog
                        What is that?

                        WOT. This is what sofa experts are guided by.
                      3. Hog
                        Hog 4 November 2019 00: 18
                        0
                        For some reason, I brought the numbers there ... I was taught how to do it right. If it doesn’t reach you, then you are that radio station. On the armored train which.

                        In battle, in most cases they act according to circumstances, and not as it is written in books.
                        I repeat - in the video - purely Arab show-offs. Normal people don’t do that. Try not to do that, at least. With all my might

                        It was about reverse speed, yes.
                        WOT. This is what sofa experts are guided by.

                        I see, I’m more on airplanes.
                      4. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 4 November 2019 00: 34
                        +2
                        Quote: Hog
                        I'm more on airplanes

                        Aircraft, as far as I remember, cannot reverse at all laughing

                        Quote: Hog
                        In battle, in most cases they act according to circumstances, and not as it is written in books

                        Ufff ... how hard it is with you ... I repeat - we must first think, and then press on the gas.

                        In the first case, on the video - BUT for a minute looking for a target. At the same time, the car has already crawled out for all to see. Do not do this.

                        In the second case - generally "full speed ahead" - the machine is moved to the point targeted by the enemy, without overwhelming the enemy. At least a machine gun.

                        So the Arabs fight. They do everything through one place. Don’t do this.

                        Play further on planes, and do not meddle in tanks. This is advice. kind yes
                      5. IS-80_RVGK2
                        IS-80_RVGK2 4 November 2019 02: 06
                        -1
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        WOT. This is what sofa experts are guided by.

                        WOT is a good thing, too. To understand some things. smile
            2. Private-K
              Private-K 3 November 2019 22: 03
              0
              It’s liquid. laughing
              I don’t know what an increase in the coefficient of combat potential gives an accelerated reverse, but I doubt that more than a tenth of a percent.
              But the "hole" in the armor of the forehead of the base Leo-2's turret - in the zone of the most likely hit - is nowhere more serious.
              1. Hog
                Hog 3 November 2019 23: 50
                -1
                I don’t know what an increase in the coefficient of combat potential gives an accelerated reverse, but I doubt that more than a tenth of a percent.

                March, March on the English Channel.
                But the "hole" in the armor of the forehead of the base Leo-2's turret - in the zone of the most likely hit - is nowhere more serious.

                If we are talking about the sight, then it was moved from version A5.
                1. Private-K
                  Private-K 4 November 2019 00: 06
                  0
                  The English Channel has nothing to do with it.
                  And such pictures made by clever "artists" should not be shown in a decent society. The author diligently spares no red paint for the Soviet-grown. and Chinese tanks, and saves a lot on abrash with Leo (so the reduced size of the Leo-2's aiming goggle was painted over by half - what a fine fellow).
                  1. Hog
                    Hog 4 November 2019 00: 13
                    -1
                    so the reduced size of the aiming point Leo-2 painted half - what a fine fellow

                    Like already wrote about this:
                    If we are talking about the sight, then it was moved from version A5

                    The Chinese, like the T series, have vulnerabilities in the area of ​​the mechanical drive devices, a gun mask and cast parts on the sides of it.
                    1. DeusExMachina
                      DeusExMachina 10 November 2019 19: 57
                      0
                      The mask will be a weakened area on all machines, a leopard is no exception.
                      1. Hog
                        Hog 11 November 2019 01: 09
                        0
                        Quote: DeusExMachina
                        The mask will be a weakened area on all machines, a leopard is no exception.

                        There is not only a mask.
                        Once again for the blind:
                        The Chinese, like the T series, have vulnerabilities in the area of ​​the devices of the mechanical drive, the mask of the gun and cast parts on the sides of it.

                        And look at the picture, the yellow zones are the weakened zones of the tower, and the blue is the mask
                      2. DeusExMachina
                        DeusExMachina 24 November 2019 20: 38
                        -1
                        Quote: Hog
                        т

                        No contradictions written by me. It is sometimes useful to read what others write before scribbling the answer.
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 November 2019 23: 50
    -5
    Update sherries, do not update, but for any of you on May 9, 1945! soldier
  9. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 2 November 2019 15: 45
    0
    From 1st to 4th modification they had box turrets a la "Tiger" and the tank was considered the best in the west (in total) and was certainly too tough for a 125 mm tank gun (according to western experts) , but suddenly at 2a5 we see a DARK thickening of the frontal armor of the tower and a change in its shape from a straight vertical to a wedge-shaped (and this, by the way, the formation of the so-called zaman, which showed itself sharply negatively on the "Panthers") and to the detriment of the convenience of the mechanic drive, which for the Germans out of the ordinary.
    I have not come across an explanation anywhere, but in my opinion it is simple: the Westerners got the arsenals of the GDR and after experimental shooting from 125 mm T-72 cannons by not the latest shells, it became clear that the armor of the Leopard-2 was thin. I draw your attention to the fact that the shells were for export, i.e. worse than standing and being adopted by the SA.
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      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 3 November 2019 04: 05
        +1
        Do you know the thickness of these screens? The Germans closed the cannon almost to the ejector with this "screen", this is an overhead spaced armor, as on the modernized T-62, "Ilyich's eyebrows". What kind of DZ series? Dynamic protection - is it a series in your opinion? There is no dynamic protection on the "Leo" Okay, at least you know what "lure" is
        1. Hog
          Hog 3 November 2019 23: 58
          -1
          Comments deleted, but not the point.
          What a series of DZ

          T series (T-64/72/80/90 tanks) and DZ mounted on them (contact-5, relic, knife).
          The Germans closed the gun almost to the ejector with this "screen"

          So what?
          this is an overhead spaced armor, as on the modernized T-62, "Ilyich's eyebrows".

          And where did you get such information?
          You can beat yourself in the chest and lament it has no analogues, but it will not become easier from this.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 4 November 2019 05: 58
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            T - series? !! what is it that you modestly missed the T-34/44/54/55/62? These are all tanks from the same series, "T". (hand face). And information from the open press is apparently completely inaccessible to you. And yes, such a sharp, even convulsive, modernization of "the world's best tank" in peacetime has no analogues. By the way, where did you get information about the dynamic protection screens on the Leo-2, from which finger? Look at the photo, open your eyes, compare with the DZ on the T-90.
            Although to whom I write this, "T" is a series, it is beyond the bounds.
            1. Hog
              Hog 4 November 2019 13: 51
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              T - series? !! what is it that you modestly missed the T-34/44/54/55/62? These are all tanks from the same series, "T". (hand face).

              All people when they hear the T-series remember the T-64/72/80/90 (due to the similarity of the design), but you are apparently a special individual (forgot about the T-18 and T-26).
              And the information from the open press, for you, is apparently completely inaccessible.

              So if you are proving something, then present evidence.
              By the way, where did you get information about the dynamic protection screens on the Leo-2, from which finger?

              So this is my question for you, I haven’t written anywhere that DZ is installed on Leopard-2.
              Look at the photo, develop your eyes, compare it with the DZ on the t-90.

              DZ is different and differently installed (the same Contact-5 on T-80U / UD and T-72B3 or T-90A, DZ alone but installed differently).
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 4 November 2019 14: 54
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                Quote: Hog
                All people when they hear the T-series remember the T-64/72/80/90 (due to the similarity of the design), but you are apparently a special individual (forgot about the T-18 and T-26).
                You, these are not all people. People who think a little bit (unlike you) distinguish between the T-64, T-72 and T-80, and they are not just one different series of tanks, because the T-64 is a TYPE and the T-72 is a TYPE and t-80 and even t-90 is TYPE (although the t-90 is just a noticeably modernized t-72) but not a series. You do not even seem to see the difference between the series and the type.
                Quote: Hog
                (forgot about T-18 and T-26)
                You forgot about them, T is the series for you.
                Quote: Hog
                And the information from the open press, for you, is apparently completely inaccessible.

                So if you are proving something, then present evidence.

                Well, if you are banned in all search engines, then here are the links
                https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9B%D0%B5%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B4_2
                http://oruzhie.info/tanki/56-leopard-2
                http://odetievbrony.ru/viewtopic.php?id=150
                Can this be called an open seal?

                Quote: Hog
                So this is my question for you, I haven’t written anywhere that DZ is installed on Leopard-2.

                As it was not written, they wrote in a shabby comment. I would begin to grovel about screens and DZ. And about the "T series" you dragged, as an example of the screen and DZ, not me. I'll let you know
                photos together for clarity.

                The difference between the screen and the DZ on it and full armor is clearly visible. (Incidentally, the T-90 dz is considered to be built-in.