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The second serial RTO "Odintsovo" of the 22800 project will strengthen the Baltic Fleet

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Small missile ship Odintsovo (formerly Flurry) will replenish the Baltic fleet, not North, as previously planned. This is reported by "Izvestia" with reference to the Ministry of Defense.


The second serial RTO "Odintsovo" of the 22800 project will strengthen the Baltic Fleet

Head MRC "Mytishchi" project 22800 "Karakurt"


According to the publication, Odintsovo’s RTO will replenish the Baltic Fleet next year by joining the 1th Guards Division of the 36 Red Banner Order of Nakhimov of the 1st degree missile boat brigade, which is located at the naval base in Baltiysk, where RTOs are already serving Mytishchi and Sovetsk. Thus, the military department said that a missile fist of three Karakurts would be created as part of the Baltic Fleet, capable of controlling not only a significant part of the Baltic Sea, but also threatening NATO's military infrastructure in the depths of Europe. Previously, Odintsovo RTOs were planned to be included in the Northern Fleet.

RTO "Odintsovo" (laid down as "Flurry") - the third in a series and second serial ship of the 22800 Karakurt project, being built at the Pella Shipyard in the interests of the Russian Navy. At the same time, Odintsovo is the first serial Karakurt, on which the Pantsir-M anti-aircraft missile-gun complex (SAM) is installed. No Pantsir-M air defense missile systems were installed on the main Mytishchi missile system and the first serial Sovetsk air defense missile system; they use 30-mm AK-630 artillery mounts.

He will be able not only to defend himself against blows aviation and missiles of a potential enemy, but also cover up the other two “Karakurt”. The appearance of Odintsovo as part of the Baltic Fleet will seriously expand the capabilities of RTOs, allowing them to operate autonomously without fear of enemy aircraft

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.

RTOs of this project have a length of 67 meters, a width of 11 meters and a draft of 4 meters. Displacement - about 800 tons, cruising range - up to 2500 miles, autonomy - 15 days. The main armament is one UKKSK (universal ship complex) 3X14 missile launcher on the 8 KR Caliber, one 76-mm AK-176MA gun mount, ZRAK Panzir-M, two 14.5-mm or 12,7-mm machine-gun mounts MTTPU.



The new ship will be part of the 1th Guards Division of the 36th Red Banner Order of Nakhimov of the I degree of the crew of missile boats, which is located at the naval base in Baltiysk.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 31 October 2019 13: 25
    +4
    I think for the Baltic and Buyan - enough! request Why Karakurt? There are So Little of them ... maybe Izvestia has messed up something?
    Improved seaworthiness of Karakurt - why in the Baltic?
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 31 October 2019 13: 32
      +6
      Due to the fact that Buyan-M has the worst seaworthiness.
      1. Grits
        Grits 31 October 2019 16: 12
        +3
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Due to the fact that Buyan-M has the worst seaworthiness.

        It is interesting, but is it possible to transfer from the Caspian to the Baltic Sea 2 ships of the project 11661K? They have better seaworthiness, nevertheless than Buyan. And in the Caspian Sea to create a homogeneous grouping purely from Buyanov.
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 31 October 2019 17: 06
          +6
          It’s interesting, but it is possible to transfer 2 ships of the Ave. 11661K to the Baltic Sea


          What for?

          It is necessary to curtail the production of RTOs and build corvettes, etc. 20380/20385.

          Corvettes pr. 20380/20385 universal, they have powerful air defense systems, anti-aircraft defense systems, can repel a torpedo attack, carry a helicopter, can attack surface ships and cover the landing.

          RTOs - it was our attempt to circumvent the agreement on the ban on INF and to be able to attack any objects from Kaliningrad at a range of Caliber flight - 2600 km. Now the agreement is prohibited and the INF Treaty is not relevant. And to build offshore platforms under 8 Caliber for $ 150 million apiece is expensive. Now we have every right to place Caliber, Onyx and Zircons on land carriers. It is orders of magnitude cheaper, more convenient, and easier to operate, such systems can be thrown by aircraft and easier to mask on the ground.
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 31 October 2019 18: 42
          +1
          But this is a thought. I would venture to suggest that a one-time transfer is definitely possible.
          1. Grits
            Grits 1 November 2019 01: 29
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            But this is a thought. I would venture to suggest that a one-time transfer is definitely possible.

            How did they deliver them there. There are no shipyards in the Caspian.
            Looked at the composition of the Caspian Flotilla. Of the main ships there are 2 cheetahs, 3 Buyan (artillery), 3 Buyan M (rocket). In addition, the Cheetahs are armed with the Uranium anti-ship missile system and have other good weapons. There are no enemy large ships on the Caspian Sea, anti-submarine weapons are not needed there either. Therefore, the replacement of Cheetahs with Buyanov M from the Caspian to the Baltic is just asking.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 31 October 2019 19: 08
        +1
        I don’t think that the storm in the Baltic is very different from the storm in the Caspian and the distance is approximately the same, but in the North, yes, there is much more.
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 31 October 2019 13: 33
      15
      I had to dig the photo of "Shkval-Odintsovo" with the "Pantsir-M" installed in the net:

    3. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 13: 43
      +9
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Them and So Little ...

      Not in the North, of course we need it more ... Why do we need Kaliningrad? We, "Peter" and "Kuzya" are not covered ... But let's go, all to the north or south ...
      Quote: Hunter 2
      I think for the Baltic and Buyan - enough!

      Have you been to the Baltic? In winter, in autumn? Canal in Baltiysk, have you seen the "Westerner"?
      1. Hunter 2
        Hunter 2 31 October 2019 13: 47
        +3
        Welcome hi Yes, happened, New Year - celebrated! Tell me the maximum severity of stormy weather in the Baltic?
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 05
          +7
          It’s not a matter of ballast, but of the nature of the wave!
          1. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 31 October 2019 14: 06
            +5
            And what is wrong with the wave in the Baltic, I really don’t know ??? Why is there Karakurt with better seaworthiness than Buyan's?
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 12
              +7
              Quote: Hunter 2
              And what is wrong with the wave in the Baltic

              Man, pour water into the basin and put it on a working washer and there will be an exact copy of the Baltic wave .... frequent and short wink
              1. Berkut24
                Berkut24 31 October 2019 16: 58
                +2
                pour water into a basin and put on a working washer and there will be an exact copy of the Baltic wave

                It’s my wife’s washing machine. I put the bowl on top. Well, it just became interesting, in the Kaliningrad region I have not yet been from the word "absolutely". In my experiment, I got a standing wave. Does it happen in the Baltic?
            2. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 31 October 2019 14: 38
              +6
              Quote: Hunter 2
              And what is wrong with the wave in the Baltic, I really don’t know ??? Why is there Karakurt with better seaworthiness than Buyan's?

              Alex, I welcome my friend. The sea is such, they walk on it and go around it. smile drinks
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 31 October 2019 14: 46
                +6
                R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi don’t distract ... I’m looking for a basin - I’ll conduct an experiment with the Baltic wave now! laughing laughing laughing
                1. Leopold
                  Leopold 31 October 2019 14: 51
                  +4
                  Alexey hi Do not get fooled by the basin, it bred you. yes Water will be spilled in the spin mode - you will run to buy a new washing machine. lol Better listen to knowledgeable people and ask them smart questions - the property will be more complete. good
                2. ul_vitalii
                  ul_vitalii 31 October 2019 15: 00
                  +5
                  Alexey, Buddy. All of us are here, therefore we communicate with each other with jokes and jokes. yes
              2. Serg65
                Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 49
                +3
                Quote: ul_vitalii
                The sea is such, they walk on it and go around

                laughing No, sometimes it happens knee-deep!
          2. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 14: 28
            +6
            Quote: Serg65
            It’s not a matter of ballast, but of the nature of the wave!
            good yes
            Sergey, welcome! hi
            In general, I get it. yes They threaten to seize (strike) the area, in response we threaten to increase ... sad
            "Balls", a week ago I saw on the district. We walked from Mamonov's side, towards Pionersk ... And today, the GDP has arrived ...
            So, we are driving around the region. Earlier, even along the old roads (German), trees grew, crowns closed. Although, "these" will pass through the glades.
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 35
              +5
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              They threaten to seize (strike) the area, in response we threaten to gain

              But do not drive your tanks to Poland wink
        2. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 14: 09
          +4
          6-7 points. More precisely, after the son-in-law from the shooting will return. But it's not that. Have you seen the channel in the storm? There, with more sediment, sometimes horseradish (a useful plant) comes out ...
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 14
            0
            Stas welcome hi
            Son-in-law on what shoots? ...... if not a secret ....
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 15: 05
              +2
              Ak-630. Already 2 pieces. In the summer only, began the beginning of the warhead weapons.
            2. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 16: 24
              +3
              Quote: Serg65
              Son-in-law on what shoots? ...... if not a secret ....

              Not really, I understood the question. laughing
              On the Golovin. Second attempt, after taking office. The first ended with a campaign, instead of the "burning" Tatishchev, without the possibility of firing, at NATO ships. sad
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 1 November 2019 08: 33
                +2
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                On "Golovin"

                Wow, so he serves in the 72 division?
          2. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 31 October 2019 14: 33
            +4
            As part of the DCBF, two Buyana-M and One Karakurt ... there will be two. I'm just trying to understand ... Buyan-M is not suitable for the Baltic?
            Strong comparison with basin and washing machine laughing but I have a washer - no vibrations request
            In general, the meaning of this dispute - I do not see! It is necessary to replenish with the Shipboard - All Four Fleets and One Flotilla! hi
            1. ul_vitalii
              ul_vitalii 31 October 2019 14: 49
              +5
              Really. yes Well, their dispersal, according to their purpose. yes
            2. Serg65
              Serg65 31 October 2019 14: 54
              +9
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Buyan-M is not suitable for the Baltic?

              Buyan is suitable for the Caspian Sea, the rest is from hopelessness!
              Quote: Hunter 2
              I have a washer - no vibrations

              And it is right wink
              Quote: Hunter 2
              It is necessary to replenish with the Shipboard - All Four Fleets and One Flotilla!

              Of course it is necessary, arguing what , here and replenish ... North Gorshkov, Baltic Karakurt bully
              hi
            3. alexmach
              alexmach 31 October 2019 18: 49
              +1
              Buyan-M is not suitable for the Baltic?

              Judging by everything everywhere except the Caspian, he is very limited in his approach.
            4. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 23: 04
              +6
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              6-7 points

              I apologize, it’s me, I’ve lied. 5 - 6. But with 3 already in the channel, do not let out.
              Son-in-law, come. Infu brought. wink He said he sank the barrel. Shot down the rocket. From the "left" - a barrel, from the "right" - a rocket. In short, we are ready, let them go ... soldier
      2. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 31 October 2019 14: 06
        -5
        Quote: LiSiCyn
        We, "Peter" and "Kuzya" are not covered ...

        And you MRK were going to cover up the Cruiser and the aircraft carrier ????? belay ....I have no words
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 14: 13
          +7
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          And you MRK were going to cover up the Cruiser and the aircraft carrier ?????

          I was going to send all the ships to the north ... And collect there, the Great Fleet of the Arctic Ocean wassat
          Do you distinguish sarcasm? what
          1. ul_vitalii
            ul_vitalii 31 October 2019 14: 35
            +7
            Greetings Stas hi Uncle this wave nailed, do not pay attention to him. yes
            1. LiSiCyn
              LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 15: 17
              +4
              Vitaliy, hello! hi
              Come on, it happens, I did not read ...
              Today the GDP is at Yantar. They say they took away all the rusty troughs (hid them) and made the half-plant a day off.
              And here, the early driver still broke through, but the late driver was already wrapped .... They will be without bread and rolls. laughing
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 31 October 2019 15: 32
                +6
                Stas hi It turns out because of the visit people will remain hungry? Or have you delivered everything you need in advance? wink
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 15: 43
                  +5
                  Helped ... laughing
                  The situation is this, the bread was delivered to the factory. soldier But the crew of the "Thundering" refused. request
                  They said to the president’s visit, they should be hungry and evil ... lol
                  1. Leopold
                    Leopold 31 October 2019 15: 47
                    +7
                    And how to execute "eat with your eyes the bosses"? recourse That way and actually eat, with hunger then. lol
              2. ul_vitalii
                ul_vitalii 31 October 2019 20: 38
                +5
                Quote: LiSiCyn
                Will be without bread and rolls.

                Stas, my friend hi Your hands smell like bread, honor and praise be to you hi it’s akin to mother’s hands.
                1. LiSiCyn
                  LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 21: 11
                  +4
                  Well, it’s you Vitaly, enough ... I can’t take bread with my hands, as if ... repeat I, more eyes. laughing
                  My job is to check and release the products. Well and in addition, protection, evacuation, control, etc.
                  In short, "night director" and on weekends, if there are no responsible, daytime ... laughing
          2. venik
            venik 31 October 2019 19: 41
            +2
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Do you distinguish sarcasm?

            ========
            That is why not "-" (minus)!
        2. venik
          venik 31 October 2019 19: 45
          +2
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          And you MRK were going to cover up the Cruiser and the aircraft carrier ????? belay .... no words

          ===========
          Well, in general, the RTOs are NOT FOR "covering" there "cruisers", "aircraft carriers" "transports" .... They have - OTHER tasks!
          P
        3. A good one
          A good one 31 October 2019 22: 38
          +5
          Quote: Tiksi-3
          ..I have no words

          How are you seagull winkYou are far from cormorant laughing How are you, my joy, do not squeeze your flare? laughing I take a feathered patronage over you. yes
    4. venik
      venik 31 October 2019 19: 39
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      I think for the Baltic and Buyan - enough!

      =========
      And I think that if you have already decided to replace "Buyans" with "Karakurt" - so it is necessary to DO! (Although I personally "Buyan-M" very like!). request
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 31 October 2019 20: 50
        +5
        Quote: venik
        That is why not "-" (minus)!

        Quote: venik
        MRK - NOT TO "cover" there "cruisers", "aircraft carriers" "transports" .... They have - OTHER tasks!

        Quote: venik
        I think that if you have already decided to replace "Buyans" with "Karakurt" - so it is necessary to DO!

        At first I didn’t understand, I thought you were Tiksi-3? what
        Then, I took a closer look .... It turns out you, it's me ... belay
        But, then I read it carefully again and realized that it was you (sorry I don’t know your name), the one who understands sarcasm and does not put "-" (minus).
    5. cormorant
      cormorant 31 October 2019 23: 04
      +1
      I think for the Baltic and Buyan - enough!
      Buy your Kaliningrad - St. Petersburg ferry ticket in the fall. If you are lucky, then you will know what a storm in the Baltic is and what seaworthiness is.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 31 October 2019 13: 26
    +8
    Well, "not being afraid of enemy aircraft" is certainly strong. Still, one "Shell" is not enough. However, on such a ship, more serious things cannot be placed.
    1. Siberia 75
      Siberia 75 31 October 2019 13: 29
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      However, on such a ship it’s more serious and can’t be accommodated.

      Chilled Carapace is a good solution. Besides, it suggests itself
    2. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 31 October 2019 13: 32
      -3
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, "not being afraid of enemy aircraft" is certainly strong

      I am sure that this is the initiative of journalists, a normal officer from the Moscow Region, cannot say that!
      1. 210ox
        210ox 31 October 2019 13: 37
        +3
        I agree .. Ready to throw these hats at the hats.
        1. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 31 October 2019 13: 55
          +3
          Ready / unprepared ... but still, the Shell on board is much more serious than even the two 630s!
          You see, after bringing the Shell of the SM to a numb state and Karakurt will receive an air defense zone of 40 km. And this is quite serious.
          And even now - 20 km, which is also very good. Well this is not the ocean - the Baltic. Against a serious raid and under the coastal air defense missile systems and the IA umbrella, you can hide, and from the "stray" F-16 or F-18, and even from a pair of Pantsir can be covered.
  3. Pavel57
    Pavel57 31 October 2019 14: 08
    0
    3 Karakurt and 2 Buyan. Volley of 40 missiles.
  4. VVK
    VVK 31 October 2019 14: 17
    -2
    But what is the power of a nuclear warhead at Caliber?
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 31 October 2019 14: 40
      +3
      Quote: VVK
      But what is the power of a nuclear warhead at Caliber?

      And what's the difference, what hit on the head - a bat or a rod? The body, all the same, in touch!
      1. Grits
        Grits 31 October 2019 16: 28
        +1
        Quote: Vladimir61
        And what's the difference, what hit on the head - a bat or a rod? The body, all the same, in touch!

        There is a difference. For the recipient of the charge, a larger charge is much more beneficial. Since it produces a larger funnel in volume. Accordingly, less is spent on civil defense forces to dump burnt corpses into this pit. And for the sender of the charge, a larger charge is also more profitable. Since these same corpses will be more. What can not but rejoice.
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 31 October 2019 17: 04
          0
          Quote: Gritsa
          And for the sender of the charge, a larger charge is also more profitable. Since these same corpses will be more. What can not but rejoice.

          Sanya! Well, you're just bloodthirsty ...
          1. Grits
            Grits 31 October 2019 17: 09
            +1
            Quote: Vladimir61
            Well, you're just bloodthirsty ...

            Yes, nooo ... I'm kind. Sometimes even sentimental. I think that mountains of charred corpses of "partners" in me can even cause a mean tear.
  5. Ryazan87
    Ryazan87 31 October 2019 14: 24
    0
    Perhaps they will come to a division by types: "Karakurt" for the Baltic, "Buyan" for the Black Sea. It would be logical. The point is to send them to the Northern Fleet is near-zero, there the frigates would be well assembled.
    1. common man
      common man 31 October 2019 15: 02
      0
      Quote: Ryazanets87
      "Buyans" for the Black Sea. It would be logical

      Not a sailor, but I think so. Why Buyan on the Black Sea? As far as I know, it’s deepwater. In the Baltic Sea there are skerries, where the Buyans are the most. In the North, Onega Bay, Kandalaksha and others like him, I think not the most deep-sea places. There Buyan is the place.
      1. Tiksi-3
        Tiksi-3 31 October 2019 15: 07
        -5
        Quote: Ryazanets87
        Perhaps they will come to a division by type: "Karakurt" for the Baltic, "Buyan" for the Black Sea

        wink Buyans exclusively for the Caspian ..... Karakurt for everyone else !!
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    1. Tamparu
      Tamparu 31 October 2019 16: 20
      0
      Sitting at home and earning income ... is good ... but not always !!
    2. Grits
      Grits 31 October 2019 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: JustinGolding
      For all of dads and moms that love to stay home to take care of their loved ones

      ... FAQ, FAQ? Whom did you send?
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 31 October 2019 17: 06
        +3
        Quote: Gritsa
        Quote: JustinGolding
        For all of dads and moms that love to stay home to take care of their loved ones

        ... FAQ, FAQ? Whom did you send?

        hi
        It is in all topics, spam. Link to a Trojan site.
        I wrote to the admins, we must be friendly .. and then, it will leave us laughing
  7. Old26
    Old26 31 October 2019 18: 20
    +3
    Quote: VVK
    But what is the power of a nuclear warhead at Caliber?

    Approximately the same as on the C-10 or "Ax". If there is currently
  8. Bear040
    Bear040 31 October 2019 21: 00
    +1
    These ships do not have anti-submarine weapons, and without them they cannot be sent for independent missions ... One enemy submarine that met on the way will turn all three Karakurt into simple targets ... These ships will need escort of universal warships, such as corvettes 20380 ... or frigates
    1. Vlad.by
      Vlad.by 1 November 2019 21: 40
      0
      And what kind of submarines will be chasing such "yachts"?
      And will they catch up?
      1. Bear040
        Bear040 17 November 2019 04: 01
        +1
        Now is the era of homing torpedoes, so the size of the ship does not matter ... And the probable enemy of the Russian Federation has enough submarines ... Here you have Japan and Sweden (neutral only in words) and Turkey (NATO member) and Germany ... Yes and the US has a significant submarine fleet ... But they won’t chase ... They will ambush possible routes ... And given satellite and air reconnaissance, this is not a problem, I'm not talking about traitors inside the country (remember how one got lost in the Russian Federation a patriot of Ukraine, who for some reason does not want to renounce citizenship of the Russian Federation and live in her historical Motherland, started calling the Ukrainian embassy when she saw from her window a gathering of officers of the military unit of the Russian Federation located in the vicinity of her place of residence and warning that it had been announced in the Russian part of the Russian Federation anxiety) ...