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Denmark has issued a permit for the construction of Nord Stream-2 in its waters

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Denmark has finally issued a permit for the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline in the country's exclusive economic zone. The pipeline will continue along the route southeast of the island of Bornholm. This was reported by the press service of the operating company Nord Stream 2 AG.


Denmark has issued a permit for the construction of Nord Stream-2 in its waters


According to the message, Nord Stream 2 AG received permission from the Danish energy agency to further lay the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline in the country's exclusive economic zone. A further route will be laid southeast of the island of Bornholm. It was this option for laying a gas pipeline in Denmark that was considered the safest and most appropriate environmental standards.

The Danish Energy Agency has granted Nord Stream 2 AG permission to lay part of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline on the Danish continental shelf southeast of Bornholm in the Baltic Sea

- said in a statement.

Copenhagen’s readiness to issue a building permit for the SP-2 was announced earlier this month. At the same time, it was said that in Denmark two options for laying a route are being considered, choosing the “most environmentally friendly” one.

In turn, the head of Gazprom Alexei Miller said earlier that after obtaining permission from Denmark, the gas pipeline through Danish waters will take about five weeks.

The Nord Stream gas pipeline will connect Russia and Germany with two strands, with a total capacity of 55 billion cubic meters of gas per year. Commissioning of "SP-2" is planned for the end of the 2019 year.
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  1. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 16: 17
    +32
    The Danes blinked first ..... And lowered cowards laughing laughing
    1. And
      And 30 October 2019 16: 23
      +44
      Well, of course, about a week and a half ago, they agreed to lay in their waters a gas pipeline from Norway, which should pass over the joint venture (coordination with Gazprom is necessary). We realized that there was no point in pulling it, otherwise Gazprom would do the same to them. In general, they dirty as much as they could until they climbed into the loop themselves. Do not dig another hole ...
      1. Old bun
        Old bun 30 October 2019 16: 25
        +30
        it seems to me that more pressure from Germany affected
        1. ltc35
          ltc35 30 October 2019 16: 31
          +4
          Is not a fact. There many parties agreed among themselves. They pretended, threw, bargained ... And so they came to a common denominator. To which? Find out soon.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 30 October 2019 16: 36
            +10
            Quote: ltc35
            Not a fact.

            Is Putin’s telephone conversation with Merkel on October 28 a fact? Well, that’s the result of this conversation. yes
            1. Hunter 2
              Hunter 2 30 October 2019 16: 55
              +28
              He looked at the censor ... wink first comments ... Yak so? And Zelensky is to blame !!! The news is gaining momentum ... laughing
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 30 October 2019 17: 08
                +21
                Quote: Hunter 2
                first comments ... Yak so? And Zelensky is to blame !!!

                Strange ... before Putin was the only one to blame. smile
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 30 October 2019 17: 30
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  previously only Putin was to blame

                  1. Shurik70
                    Shurik70 30 October 2019 22: 05
                    +1
                    Already firmly decided to go around Denmark.
                    This is probably why Denmark agreed - they cannot stop the project, it remains to make a profit from it.
                2. cniza
                  cniza 30 October 2019 17: 32
                  +3
                  So Putin bought Zelensky, they will not leave this option.
                  1. Alexey RA
                    Alexey RA 30 October 2019 18: 06
                    +15
                    Yes, yes, yes ... all people are divided into Putin agents and those with Putin so far in the development. smile
                3. Lelek
                  Lelek 30 October 2019 18: 29
                  +13
                  Quote: Alexey RA
                  Strange ... before Putin was the only one to blame.

                  hi , Alexei.
                  "Everything in this raging world is ghostly ...". The day before yesterday - Putin, yesterday - Hetman Ze, today - Sultan Erdogan, President Korban and Chancellor Merkel. Poor, poor Ruin - you have to acquire so many enemies, but the main enemy inside is the oligarchs and their oprichina - the Nazis.


              2. Alien From
                Alien From 30 October 2019 17: 56
                +5
                The correspondent is now also boiling hohlomass))))
              3. Alekseev
                Alekseev 30 October 2019 19: 07
                +7
                Quote: Hunter 2
                He looked at the censor ...

                Quote: Alexey RA
                Quote: Hunter 2
                first comments ... Yak so? And Zelensky is to blame !!!

                Strange ... before Putin was the only one to blame. smile

                Banderlogs and the dill attached to them love to wishful thinking like no other.
                At the same time, elementary logic is not taken into account: because if a reliable, independent of whether urine hit the head of the Ukrainian chieftains or not, gas supply was not necessary for Europe and, especially, Germany, no one would even undertake the construction.
                The club of billionaire companies (including Gazprom) is headed by very quiet, but very serious and influential people, in contrast to all sorts of noisy "experts" on TV. In addition, there is strong support from interested governments, as one Polish leader recently complained about ...
                In general, it’s joyful, because what’s good for the Russian is banderlog’s death. tongue
            2. tol100v
              tol100v 30 October 2019 18: 04
              +1
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              A telephone conversation between Putin and Merkel on October 28 is a fact

              Yes, we have long been able to read between the lines!
            3. Oleg1263
              Oleg1263 30 October 2019 18: 17
              +2
              The other day there was a meeting between representatives of Gazprom and Naftogaz, quite possibly, the neighbors put forward such demands that even the Danes gave up on them.
            4. Lelek
              Lelek 30 October 2019 18: 18
              +10
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Is Putin’s telephone conversation with Merkel on October 28 a fact? Well, that’s the result of this conversation.

              hi , Alexander.
              It was Germany that was the main source of pressure on Denmark, since after the launch of the SP-2 it becomes the main gas hub of Europe (only about 10% of the gas pumped through the SP-1 and SP-2 will go to the internal needs of the FRG, the rest to "Europe" for money. smart.). As for the old scheme through the former Ukraine, Russia has already prepared a project for stopping transit (the goods are ours and we have to choose a buyer and intermediaries).
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 30 October 2019 18: 40
                +1
                Quote: Lelek
                It was Germany that was the main burrower of pressure on Denmark

                Greetings Leo! hi
                I think that Putin learned about a positive solution to the Danish question from Merkel precisely from this telephone conversation. In the appendage, so to speak, to the discussion about the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine. This issue, as the media say, was also discussed between them. I think Putin laid here in advance too
                straws. yes
                1. Lelek
                  Lelek 30 October 2019 18: 45
                  +4
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  ... about the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine. This issue, as the media say, was also discussed between them. I think Putin here also laid straws in advance.


                  I also see it that way. Want to laugh? But we have a new president in Russia, Trump removed Putin from his post. bully
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 30 October 2019 18: 50
                    +4
                    Quote: Lelek
                    I also see it that way. Want to laugh? But we have a new president in Russia, Trump removed Putin from his post

                    That's Trump what a radish: he doesn’t want to leave his post alone after an impeachment threatening him - he decided to take Putin with him. laughing
          2. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 30 October 2019 16: 36
            +15
            Well! Again zrada. And the lads were waiting for the Danes to die for a freebie for the Bandera Nazis.
            By the new year, SP-2 will be built. For a couple of months of trial operation, there will be enough reserves in the underground gas storage facilities.
            Even NOVATEK with liquefied gas will not have to strain. In vain only the regasifier ship was driven to Rotterdam.
          3. zloybond
            zloybond 30 October 2019 19: 40
            0
            What a denominator) They just realized that no - no way ..... So the money will go from China ..... The problem could not be created, ... but there may not be gas)))) .... Ukrainians do not want to be treated. There is no agreement .... It is urgent to sign.
        2. And
          And 30 October 2019 16: 34
          +1
          And this also played an important role
        3. NF68
          NF68 30 October 2019 16: 40
          +2
          Quote: Old Bun
          it seems to me that more pressure from Germany affected


          There, most likely not only Germany has pressed the necessary "button".
        4. major147
          major147 30 October 2019 16: 46
          +15
          Quote: Old Bun
          it seems to me that more pressure from Germany affected

        5. dorz
          dorz 30 October 2019 16: 47
          +5
          Quote: Old Bun
          it seems to me that more pressure from Germany affected

          A kind word and a gun is better than just a kind word. yes
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 30 October 2019 17: 39
            +4
            Quote: dorz
            A good word and a gun is better

            In this case, a pipe without unnecessary words. yes
        6. Cut Samshitov
          Cut Samshitov 30 October 2019 17: 00
          +2
          According to British scientists, the ancestors of the Estonians came from Denmark ...
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 30 October 2019 20: 22
            +2
            Estland (Eastern Norway) - Estonia (Estonia), Estonians (Estonians). According to toponymy, the "root" of the Estonians stretches from Norway, most likely through Denmark (on the way they "lost" speed). hi
            1. SOF
              SOF 31 October 2019 07: 20
              0
              Quote: cat Rusich
              The "root" of Estonians comes from Norway

              .... Finno-Ugric peoples .... they, in genetics, are closer to our Nenets, Khanty and Mansi ....
              1. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 31 October 2019 20: 43
                0
                In genetics - yes, (DNA is an exact science). I'm talking about the fact that at first there were maarahvad - "people of the earth", and then in the course of the "national revival" appeared eesti rahvas - "people of Estonia" - a term coined by J. V. Jannsen in 1857. In general, Estonians "sacrifice" everything to be "Europe", even their origin. In simple terms, Estonia is an eastern land for Europe, and Estonians are eastern people.
        7. knn54
          knn54 30 October 2019 18: 08
          +2
          I think that Trump offended the Danes with his attempt to buy Greenland.
          Denmark only thinks about Denmark.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 30 October 2019 23: 50
            0
            Quote: knn54
            I think that Trump offended the Danes with his attempt to buy Greenland.

            hi
            And "Mr. Twister" Trump did not even think about Denmark and the Danes, but only about himself, exceptional. Who are Danes for the United States? The natives on the island, who by chance acquired the much needed Greenland states, well, just shove them a couple of pieces of silver and a handful of beads, but would not agree to send their asker with "tomahawks" there and legalize their presence through NATO. Everything and business. And the world gendarme Greenland, Norway, and the north of Canada oh, how much they need to press these Russians and take away the Northern Sea Route from them.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 30 October 2019 17: 26
        +3
        Quote: And
        In general, they dirty as much as they could until they climbed into the loop themselves. Do not dig another hole ...

        They stuffed their price like gymnasium students.
      3. Rostislav Bely
        Rostislav Bely 30 October 2019 19: 52
        0
        Norwegian deposits are depleted, production decline by 8% is expected ...
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 30 October 2019 16: 24
      +6
      In vain you, Denmark broke - even the skirt did not wrinkle smile
      1. 210ox
        210ox 30 October 2019 16: 31
        +2
        Yes, they went ... forest. There are terrible women.
        1. demo
          demo 30 October 2019 16: 41
          +4

          There are even very pretty ones.
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 30 October 2019 16: 54
            +6
            Quote: demo
            There are even very pretty ones.

            bully
            1. 210ox
              210ox 30 October 2019 18: 02
              +2
              And what am I supposed to do with the mermaid? Me, man? To carry her fishing? what laughing crying
              1. Dym71
                Dym71 30 October 2019 18: 15
                +4
                Quote: 210ox
                And what am I supposed to do with the mermaid? Me, man? To carry her fishing?

                On live bait! good
                Two Estonians fish in the bay. One pulls a fishing rod and draws a lovely
                the mermaid. Holding her for some time in his arms, he throws her back into the sea.
                An hour later, the second asks:
                - Why?
                An hour later, the first answers:
                - What about?
                1. Avior
                  Avior 30 October 2019 22: 37
                  0
                  And you carefully look at the right mermaid, and not from the children's cartoon, you see, there is also how smile
                  1. Dym71
                    Dym71 30 October 2019 22: 45
                    +2
                    Quote: Avior
                    And you carefully look at the right mermaid

                    In what I found! bully
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 30 October 2019 22: 58
                      0
                      This also seems to be correct.
                      The right mermaid is a woman from above to the knees, and the wrong one is to the waist smile
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 October 2019 17: 28
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, they went ... forest. There are terrible women.

          There’s nothing to look at.
    3. Vend
      Vend 30 October 2019 16: 29
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The Danes blinked first ..... And lowered cowards laughing laughing

      This is not surprising, they broke for a look and surrendered, but they broke for a long time laughing
      1. major147
        major147 30 October 2019 16: 48
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Gennady Fomkin
        The Danes blinked first ..... And lowered cowards laughing laughing

        This is not surprising, they broke for a look and surrendered, but they broke for a long time laughing

        But just enough so as not to harm the construction and to please overseas owners.
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 30 October 2019 17: 09
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        This is not surprising, they broke for a look and surrendered, but they broke for a long time

        Yes, really, but all the same, Denmark's "fantasy" is over. They shouldn't forget this show off.
        By the way winked and why do Norwegians consider Danes to be idiots?
      3. Voyager
        Voyager 30 October 2019 17: 14
        +3
        Sometimes I read the Ukrainian press. Six months ago, they called Denmark brothers. Checked today: zrada. Well so predictable laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 October 2019 17: 31
          +2
          Quote: Voyager
          Sometimes I read the Ukrainian press. Six months ago, they called Denmark brothers. Checked today: zrada.

          Ukrainians are quite predictable. "If I don't eat it, I'll take a bite" is the basic formula.
      4. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 30 October 2019 17: 47
        -1
        Quote: Wend
        broke for a look and surrendered, but broke for a long time

        I remembered the good old "play" put on the MOV:
        Mon Sher Hamlet, walk by the office
        Tsukerku I will give Toby I smokti
        Tsukerka is savory - "Tuzik" is not spoiled
    4. Dietmar
      Dietmar 30 October 2019 16: 34
      +1
      They held on to the last ... And proto-ucropia today will be consumed with grief by moonshine under the cries of "zrada" and "SUGS"
      1. Vend
        Vend 30 October 2019 17: 02
        +1
        Quote: Dietmar
        They held on to the last ... And proto-ucropia today will be consumed with grief by moonshine under the cries of "zrada" and "SUGS"

        They will not start writing in the USA and demand pressure on Denmark, but Denmark itself will be declared an agent of the Kremlin laughing
    5. Prisoner
      Prisoner 30 October 2019 17: 40
      +1
      Not soon they will be allowed to pull these underpants back. Get fit. hi
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon 30 October 2019 18: 01
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      The Danes blinked first ..... And lowered cowards laughing laughing

      And someone screamed - Zrada !!!
    7. antivirus
      antivirus 30 October 2019 19: 09
      0
      Yes. the scout’s feat is not noticeable, but the result is visible from afar.
      what does Harkiv have to do with Bronholm? - a straight pipe connects them through the brains of the coilers.
      and Donbass receives gas
  2. Yrec
    Yrec 30 October 2019 16: 20
    +2
    If they were cut off from gas for one winter, they would be flooded with dung - they would become more accommodating. But no, we do all knickens with curtsies towards Europe. Bullied already.
  3. Marconi41
    Marconi41 30 October 2019 16: 24
    +3
    This is to be expected. After all, the Danes did not go (Bulgarians), they did not miss the benefit.
    1. DMoroz
      DMoroz 30 October 2019 16: 29
      -4
      Well, as for the benefits, they probably did not miss their ... More than I am sure that the most "environmentally friendly" route of the two considered will be the longest and, as a result, more expensive in transit ...
      1. NKT
        NKT 30 October 2019 17: 24
        +2
        The initial version was through the territorial waters of Denmark, and now the pipe will pass only through its economic zone. Perhaps construction will be more expensive, but there will be no transit fees.
    2. NF68
      NF68 30 October 2019 16: 38
      0
      Quote: Marconi41
      This is to be expected. After all, the Danes did not go (Bulgarians), they did not miss the benefit.


      Yes, and the Germans and Co are afraid.
  4. Maalkavianin
    Maalkavianin 30 October 2019 16: 24
    -11
    Be that as it may, they did their work. SP-2 this year will not work. They say that the stacker ship has already left and work will only be resumed next year.
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 30 October 2019 16: 26
      +9
      Quote: Malkavianin
      They say that the stacker has already left

      And the captain went on maternity leave from Coca smile
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 30 October 2019 16: 28
        -13
        laughing good One way or another, this year they will not finish building. Well, at least they won’t.
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 30 October 2019 16: 36
          +2
          Cho will drip to you?
          And then be careful with the symptoms.
          Not every fun is equally useful.
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            1. Livonetc
              Livonetc 30 October 2019 16: 43
              +1
              My perception is as follows.
              The project, which is significant for the welfare of Russia, will be implemented.
              Everything flows, everything changes.
              And the perception of Russia in general and business with Russia in particular, is changing dramatically.
              If this is the fluidity of perception, then yes, I perceive and welcome the positive changes.
              Do you have a frozen perception of reality?
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    2. And
      And 30 October 2019 16: 37
      0
      There, right now, only Solitaire stands in Muuga, the Pioneering Spirit in Tenerife hangs around, and Audacia in Italy.
      1. Sergey39
        Sergey39 30 October 2019 17: 04
        0
        The name of this stacker is cool - Solitaire. laughing
    3. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 30 October 2019 16: 48
      +3
      Quote: Malkavianin
      Be that as it may, they did their work. SP-2 this year will not work. They say that the stacker ship has already left and work will only be resumed next year.

      It's like that, tell me please. How did they drop the pipes without reaching the desired point and sail away? And how will they then connect them?
    4. kapitan92
      kapitan92 30 October 2019 16: 52
      +4
      Quote: Malkavianin
      They say that the stacker ship left already and work will only be resumed next year.

      And who says ??? laughing
      According to the navigation portal Marinetraffic, Solitaire pipelayer approached the economic zone of Denmark and, obviously, is carrying out preparatory work to continue laying the Nord Stream-2 and is waiting for permission from Denmark. For at least the last two days, the pipe-laying vessel has been in one place and has been serviced by Standard Princess and FAR Solitaire supply vessels. Today, a Fortitude vessel approached the pipelayer, which checked the section of the already laid gas pipeline.

      : https://eadaily.com/en/news/2019/10/08/s-truboukladchika-severnogo-potoka-2-snyali-ohranu
      It takes 35 days to "pass" the Danish section. By the end of November, work on the offshore section will be completed. hi
    5. major147
      major147 30 October 2019 16: 53
      +1
      Quote: Malkavianin
      Be that as it may, they did their work. SP-2 this year will not work. They say that the stacker ship has already left and work will only be resumed next year.

      "Not everything is so simple" (c).
      The pipe layer went to one of the Estonian ports and will return quickly. The Danish site will be built in 3-4 weeks. Gazprom and its partners are hastily building a land continuation of Nord Stream 2 - simply including so that (until the strange decision of the European Court of Justice is canceled) to transfer volumes that are forced to be exempted from OPAL.
    6. Terenin
      Terenin 30 October 2019 17: 26
      +3
      Quote: Malkavianin
      Be that as it may, they did their work. SP-2 this year will not work. They say that the stacker ship has already left and work will only be resumed next year.

      Well, Miklos, you give! laughing Stacker vessel "left" to look for an alternative route yes . And, you rejoice that it would not find him. Otherwise, this issued permit, along with the Maidan, will have to eat from anger am .
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 30 October 2019 18: 08
      -1
      Quote: Malkavianin
      They say that the stacker ship has already left and work will only be resumed next year.

      Who says only you, or grannies at your porch too? Have you not stolen pipes yet?
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 31 October 2019 00: 37
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        Have you not stolen pipes yet?

        Duc, everything is already in the areas at the peyzans there, or in the reception of the cher-meta. yes And the Poles with the Norgs will throw their pipe faster, and Gazprom will ask them for permission. fellow wassat And yes, of course, we will all die, because everything is bad with us. Something like that. laughing
  5. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 30 October 2019 16: 25
    -1
    Who would doubt it! The Danes stuck around, flirted, broke down for decency .. Then they gave!
    1. nikon7717
      nikon7717 30 October 2019 23: 44
      +1
      The fact that the Danes were bent on the construction of the SP2 was clear immediately after their first attempt to brake. It was clearly contrived and at the direction of, given that before the laying of the project passed the examination. Here, at the direction of the regional committee, the brakes were cut down, but the locals broke them. Everything will be on time.
  6. mark1
    mark1 30 October 2019 16: 26
    0
    I can imagine what is happening in the Gazprom office. Miller must have already sent for an accordion, Karpel is dancing a jig on the table, Vasilyeva is cutting salads ... wassat
    1. Slon379
      Slon379 30 October 2019 16: 40
      +3
      For the fifth accordion !!!! Four have already ripped furs !!!!
    2. kjhg
      kjhg 30 October 2019 17: 05
      -1
      Quote: mark1
      I can imagine what is happening in the Gazprom office. Miller must have already sent for an accordion, Karpel is dancing a jig on the table, Vasilyeva is cutting salads ... wassat

      Something like that not just the agrarian, but the gas lobby
    3. dauria
      dauria 30 October 2019 22: 25
      0
      Miller probably already sent for an accordion,


      Madame Baturina-Luzhkova and her husband are also happy (some 1% of "Russia's heritage"). The American bank, the Germans, the Ukrainians are also glad - almost half of Gazprom is in their joint ownership. In short, everyone should sing and rejoice.
      But no. Vanka in Tambov is happy, but Mykola in Poltava has a hitch. recourse ... Dunce brainless.
      Both in Russia and in Ukraine.
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  7. Pacifist
    Pacifist 30 October 2019 16: 26
    +3
    I ran to buy crackers and kvass .... there will be an interesting night, only more wipes should be bought so that the monitor is cleaned from splashes, from the news of the non-living and banderlozh. drinks SchA rush!
    1. Thrall
      Thrall 30 October 2019 16: 34
      +3
      Already it started: smile
      1. Operator
        Operator 30 October 2019 17: 01
        0
        Loshars shameful laughing
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 October 2019 17: 12
        +2
        This is someone clearly trolling.
        Although ... there it is already difficult to separate the troll from the really stubborn. smile
      3. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 31 October 2019 00: 44
        0
        Quote: Thrall
        Already it started:

        What is characteristic here too. Above, it seems that the lads just settled, flocked into a flock and chirped. laughing
  8. Bomb
    Bomb 30 October 2019 16: 27
    -9
    People’s bowels, and Miller’s pipe =)
    1. barsuk
      barsuk 30 October 2019 16: 36
      -2
      Quote: Bomb
      People’s bowels, and Miller’s pipe =)

      What made you laugh so much?
    2. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 30 October 2019 16: 58
      +1
      Build your pipe. And tell me where it is written about the "people's bowels" Subsoil, in general, was and is state.
      1. Bomb
        Bomb 31 October 2019 11: 34
        -2
        Well, tell us how our oil barons maintain the country for their taxes. Having received in due time all the most delicious, now you can be generous. I was always interested - didn’t the state really need both then and now this money? Tens and hundreds of billions went to private hands. And this is presented and in every possible way voiced as the only right decision. How much goes to the state budget with every 100 dollars from oil sales: in the UAE - 88-91, in Nigeria - 82-90, in Angola - 82-88, in Norway - 82, in the USA - 63-70, in China - 59-62, in Colombia - 47-58. In Russia - 34! There can be no justice in Russia, while almost all natural rent goes into profit for the oligarchs. And this was the reason for the appearance of the world's largest number of dollar billionaires. The injustice lies in the fact that they did not become rich at the expense of their talents, but due to the seizure of natural resources belonging to the whole people. Officials give out personal selfish goals for state interests and trample on the interests of the people - the only source of power. Natural resources are only formally the property of the entire population of Russia, but in reality only a gop company receives income from their operation.
        1. AU Ivanov.
          AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 11: 52
          0
          Where did you get the 34%? According to conservative estimates of the 100 bucks in revenue, the oilman gives up to 87% to the budget. But you still need to pay dividends to shareholders and keep salaries for employees and equipment up to date. Your 34% is valid for the Yeltsin era, now this is far from the case.
  9. Operator
    Operator 30 October 2019 16: 30
    +2
    Well, Okraintsy, from January 1 switch to biogas self-sufficiency? laughing
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 30 October 2019 16: 50
      0
      Quote: Operator
      Well, Okraintsy, from January 1 switch to biogas self-sufficiency? laughing

      By January 2, SP-XNUMX is unlikely to have time to launch. There will be all sorts of showdowns with Ukraine and Europe. The devil knows how this will end.
      1. major147
        major147 30 October 2019 17: 02
        +2
        Quote: Marconi41
        The devil knows how this will end.

        But ours made sure: “Since mid-August, the Russian floating regasification unit with the glorious name Marshal Vasilevsky, including in Europe, has already been moved from Kaliningrad to Rotterdam. And this unit is quite capable of pumping more than ten million cubic meters into the European gas transmission network. gas per day. And, figuratively speaking, the tankers are already at the ready - that NOVATEK is ready to support Gazprom in the event of an unfavorable scenario in the transit crisis. "
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        2. NKT
          NKT 30 October 2019 17: 30
          +3
          In a year, it will be able to regasify about 5 billion m3 of gas - 9% of the capacity of SP-1.
          1. major147
            major147 30 October 2019 17: 36
            +3
            Quote: NKT
            In a year, it will be able to regasify about 5 billion m3 of gas - 9% of the capacity of SP-1.

            The main thing here is to survive the winter.
      2. kjhg
        kjhg 30 October 2019 17: 12
        +1
        Quote: Marconi41
        By the first of January, SP-2 is unlikely to have time to launch

        Unfortunately. After the construction is completed, several months will be trial operation, only then commissioning. But it is impossible to reach full capacity until the restrictions on pumping through the OPAL gas pipeline are lifted.
        Quote: Marconi41
        There will be all sorts of showdowns with Ukraine and Europe

        Already in full swing.
        Quote: Marconi41
        The devil knows how this will end.

        Shake it - see.
  10. gx200gx
    gx200gx 30 October 2019 16: 32
    0
    We realized that it was better to have a stable income than problems with partners in geography and not only ....
    1. KCA
      KCA 30 October 2019 16: 42
      0
      Moreover, they realized that they should not spoil relations with the countries of Europe interested in SP-2, and with Russia, Trump may even more insistently ask to cede Greenland, or simply to squeeze
  11. Nycomed
    Nycomed 30 October 2019 16: 38
    +4
    It’s too early to write off the Germans, they still found arguments for the Danes! Maladians! good
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 30 October 2019 17: 08
      +1
      Quote: Nycomed
      It’s too early to write off the Germans

      Arguments for the Danes were found, I hope there are also for the European Commission. It is too early to forget about the adopted amendments to the gas directive and Germany should be the one to initiate the exceptions as the country accepting SP-2 (otherwise, it will use SP-2 to the fullest ... Although Nord Stream 2 AG has filed a lawsuit against the EU regarding these amendments ) The battle is won, but not yet the end ...
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 30 October 2019 17: 21
        0
        There is no particular secret there. Still, Russia will not be given back more than 40% of the European gas market, but these percentages must be protected and upheld.
      2. NKT
        NKT 30 October 2019 17: 50
        +3
        The land continuation of EUGAL SP2 - will not fall under the restrictions of European regulation, as happened with OPAL, the land continuation of SP1, so it can be used to the full extent, to all 55 billion m3. The first string (30.9 billion m3) of EUGAL is almost ready, but the second (24.1 billion m3) will be ready in 2021.
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 30 October 2019 18: 25
          +1
          Quote: NKT
          Land Continuation SP2 EUGAL

          EUGAL yes, the question is specifically about SP-2 "The new law applies to offshore gas pipelines from third countries to the EU the same rules as to onshore ones, that is, a producing company cannot own a pipeline through which its gas is pumped. President of the European Commission for the Energy Union Maros Sefchovic has already stated that the amendments to the Gas Directive are not specifically aimed at Nord Stream 2. https://topwar.ru/156838-evrosojuz-prinjal-okonchatelnye-popravki-k-gazovoj-direktive-es .html
          "On July 25, 2019, Nord Stream 2 AG filed a lawsuit in an EU court of general jurisdiction. Nord Stream 2 seeks to annul Directive (EU) 2019/692 amending the EU Gas Directive, due to violation of the principles of EU law on equal treatment and proportionality This could lead to the repeal of Directive (EU) 2019/692, as the amendments were clearly developed and adopted with the aim of creating unfavorable and hindering conditions for the Nord Stream 2 project.
  12. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 30 October 2019 16: 39
    +1
    Say goodbye to Ukrainian gas transit, and with it the reverse.
    1. major147
      major147 30 October 2019 17: 08
      +2
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      Say goodbye to Ukrainian gas transit, and with it the reverse.

    2. Nycomed
      Nycomed 30 October 2019 17: 23
      0
      And the "reverse" may not depend on the Ukrainian transit. Ukraine, according to the so-called "reverse", may well receive gas from the Northern Streams. True, the cost will be different.
      1. NKT
        NKT 30 October 2019 17: 36
        +3
        Then it will not be a "reverse", but a purchase of gas from Germany, since it will cross the border several times. "Reverse" is when the gas pumping through the territory of Ukraine is taken with the consent of European countries and formalized on paper as gas allegedly "exported" to Ukraine.
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 30 October 2019 17: 42
          0
          What's the difference? The main thing for them is to pour feces into the ears of the people, explaining that in the "gas issue" Ukraine no longer depends on Russia. Something like that, I think. No.
        2. Avior
          Avior 30 October 2019 22: 45
          +1
          It doesn’t work out, gas meters are at the entrance to the EU and once a month Gazprom and the host sign protocols.
          Similarly, at the entrance to Ukraine.
          You can only return back after the counter.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 October 2019 16: 40
    +4
    If our SP-2 have time for the New Year, there will be enough banderlog kondrashka and the Ecumenical howl will begin.
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 30 October 2019 16: 49
      +7
      Quote: Ros 56
      If our SP-2 have time for the New Year, there will be enough banderlog kondrashka and the Ecumenical howl will begin.

  14. Comrade
    Comrade 30 October 2019 16: 42
    +2
    Ukraine will now lose money for gas transit, so it's time for European lawyers in Ukraine to become its breadwinners.
  15. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 16: 42
    +5
    The cost of transit is very expensive. Until gas arrives in Germany, it will pass through several countries. And here the route in Russia is shorter. no transit and contracts and endless ships. And most importantly, pumping in a cold and stable environment is cheaper. Well, the money for pumping remains in Russia ... The length of the pipe to Germany is reduced by 1500 km. It is saving money. We clean a bunch of intermediaries in pumping, this is not the same.

    Enough for you?
    1. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 30 October 2019 16: 46
      +3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Enough for you?

      Enough for us!
    2. Ros 56
      Ros 56 30 October 2019 16: 59
      +1
      If to everyone, then it’s normal, but I'm afraid we won’t be entered into the register of recipients. fellow lol laughing
      1. Edik
        Edik 30 October 2019 17: 18
        +1
        Quote: Ros 56
        If to everyone, then it’s normal, but I'm afraid we won’t be entered into the register of recipients.

        Everyone in the USSR had a personal factory to listen to you, but the zemstvos did not go around and they personally transferred interest to each of you !! There was nothing to do, everything was state-owned, but for those who were sitting at these plants, factories, it was closer to the body and feed laughing
        More news:
        Manufacturer Sukhoi Superjet has signed a memorandum with Norwegian Air to supply 40 aircraft. In exchange, the Norwegians offer to open the Trans-Siberian route for flights from Europe to Asia and give a discount on flights.
        Read more at RBC:
        https://www.rbc.ru/business/25/10/2019/5db082b89a794762439f50e7

        Well, how without him yes :
        The Moscow Region Arbitration Court decided to recover from the director of the Lenin State Farm Pavel Grudinin about 1,1 billion rubles in favor of other shareholders of the company. It is reported by RIA Novosti.
        According to the plaintiffs, they suffered real damage of 1,1 billion rubles after two land plots of the state farm with a market value of more than a billion rubles were contributed to the charter capital of another company as a share with a nominal value of 29 million rubles. The plaintiffs also believe that they lost a profit of about a billion - the land was owned by another company for 10 years.

        Here, as they say, no comment yes
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 October 2019 17: 18
        0
        Quote: Ros 56
        If to everyone, then it’s normal, but I'm afraid we won’t be entered into the register of recipients.

        But because it was necessary to place vouchers wisely. smile
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 31 October 2019 11: 04
          0
          I’ll answer both of you at once, and Alexey and Edik, no, we didn’t have any factories, but they paid well for a good job, regardless of the place of work. My neighbor had a turner on a huge machine, he was given parts for installation on the technical map for 72 hours and he worked on it for a week, and sometimes my wife worked as a seamstress in a knitting factory, she did 1,5-2 standards. So they earned approximately the same at 300-400 rubles a month. I myself worked for the soul, the salary of 130 - 160 plus part-time as much, somehow it was enough for life, for entertainment, for children, and on the plane to fly on vacation. The main problem was getting tickets. And for those who deceive that the shops were a rolling ball, you can safely spit in the face, the refrigerators were full for those who worked. My mother had a pension of 132 rubles and had enough, without butter, meat and smoked sausage, she didn’t sit and saved up for the funeral and tossed us, in the sense of grandchildren. But after this bastard spotted and three-fingered drunk, everything turned around here. For my reasons, it all ended in '93 and confusion and reeling began thanks to these idiots in short pants, the purpose of which was the collapse of the USSR. And everyone else had to overcome everyone to the best of his brain and knowledge.
    3. major147
      major147 30 October 2019 17: 09
      +2
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      We clean a bunch of intermediaries in pumping,

      Let me fix it - freeloaders! hi
    4. Nycomed
      Nycomed 30 October 2019 17: 31
      0
      I have already erased the language here in VO, saying that it is necessary to sell gas in the EU on the border of the Russian Federation and Ukraine. We received gas, calculated and the further fate of this gas is no longer of interest to us. Ukraine can steal it, upload it to its storage facilities, etc. We don’t care about all this. If the EU wants, then let it modernize the Ukrainian GTS, pay for transit, it makes no difference to us. We sold it (gas) at our border. Everything, the question is removed. hi
      1. kjhg
        kjhg 30 October 2019 18: 58
        +1
        Quote: Nycomed
        us no difference.

        There is a difference. This gives us the opportunity to somehow influence the policies of the EU countries. True, in recent years, the EU, with its energy packages and rules, has noticeably narrowed the room for maneuver, but opportunities still remain. Countries that pursue a neutral or at least not hostile policy towards Russia usually have a discount on gas.
      2. Brturin
        Brturin 30 October 2019 20: 25
        0
        Quote: Nycomed
        If the EU wants, then let it modernize the Ukrainian GTS

        It will be interesting to look at this modernization if Gazprom fulfills its promises - "The restructuring of gas transmission corridors on the territory of Russia predetermines that by the beginning of 2022 the potential volume of transit through the territory of Ukraine in the central corridor will be from 10 to 15 billion cubic meters of gas." It was planned to liquidate 4,3 kilometers of pipes and close 62 compressor shops.
      3. Avior
        Avior 30 October 2019 22: 48
        0
        Gazprom is categorically against your proposal.
        Actually, the EU is seeking exactly what you propose - this is the third energy package
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 30 October 2019 22: 56
          -1
          And why? After all, everything is very simple: "A woman with a cart, it is easier for a mare." good lol
          1. Avior
            Avior 30 October 2019 23: 11
            0
            This is a loss of control over supplies to Europe.
            The third energy package just requires sharing the one who produces gas with those who supply and sell
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 30 October 2019 23: 22
              -2
              That's right. We produce and supply, and the Germans sell. Is it in vain that Schroeder was corrupt?
              1. Avior
                Avior 30 October 2019 23: 30
                0
                Gazprom persuade to start, and not only
                BERLIN, May 16. / TASS /. The Ministry of Energy of Russia opposes the idea of ​​selling Russian gas to Ukraine on the eastern border, so that in the future the Ukrainian side itself will sell it to the EU countries. Russian Deputy Energy Minister Anatoly Yanovsky announced this to journalists on the sidelines of the international conference "Prospects for Energy Cooperation between Russia and the EU. Gas Aspect".
  16. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 30 October 2019 16: 45
    +2
    And why are they grimacing, one asks? Nishtyaki, which bargained?
  17. cokol-xnumx
    cokol-xnumx 30 October 2019 16: 46
    0
    cheers comrades, Denmark also gave the green light on the shortest route 147 km, oh and the glow will come from the tearing of farts from the non-brothers - they spoke to the whole world with them, you 2.0 Kurds
    1. major147
      major147 30 October 2019 17: 13
      +4
      Quote: cokol-161
      the glow will be from the gap of farts from the brothers

      Already from Rostov you can see the glow
  18. Pavel57
    Pavel57 30 October 2019 16: 55
    +2
    Good.
  19. D-Master
    D-Master 30 October 2019 17: 04
    +2
    Lord, how many missiles started in dill. I think there’s a glow from edge to edge.
  20. Xenofont
    Xenofont 30 October 2019 17: 04
    +3
    Mega ZRAADA! Plugging our noses: we’ll start!
  21. Pavel57
    Pavel57 30 October 2019 17: 14
    -3
    ...
    That is, even a miracle happened, and Denmark issues a permit today, and in 4-5 weeks the offshore part of the pipeline is completed, commissioning is carried out, there is simply nothing to connect to it on the shore. This means only one thing: on January 1 of next year, Nord Stream-2 will definitely not start working.

    Objectively, the winter heating season of 2019-2020 in Europe passes by Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream. If so, then why make an extra fuss by laying a pipeline to bypass Denmark?

    Now the new deadline for Gazprom is July 2020. Then European consumers will again begin to pump gas reserves into their storage facilities for the next heating season, in which bypass pipelines will be able to take part. But the coming winter will be "fun."
    1. Brturin
      Brturin 30 October 2019 17: 37
      +4
      Quote: Pavel57
      Objectively, the winter heating season of 2019-2020 in Europe passes by Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream

      As for the Northern, we will wait for the official statements of Gazprom on the timing. Turkish is not completely yet, but supplies for the needs of Turkey and Bulgaria (Novak bridge to Bulgaria has been built - "This will already allow gas to be supplied to Bulgaria from January 1 next year"). will already go along the TP, bypassing the Trans-Balkan route.
      1. Orkraider
        Orkraider 30 October 2019 19: 08
        +2
        Quote: BrTurin
        Quote: Pavel57
        Objectively, the winter heating season of 2019-2020 in Europe passes by Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream

        As for the Northern, we will wait for the official statements of Gazprom on the timing. Turkish is not completely yet, but supplies for the needs of Turkey and Bulgaria (Novak bridge to Bulgaria has been built - "This will already allow gas to be supplied to Bulgaria from January 1 next year"). will already go along the TP, bypassing the Trans-Balkan route.

        hi
        Greetings!
        I haven’t heard you for a long time. Thanks for the good comments.
        And when the jumper was let go, I missed it. Really done ?!
        drinks
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 30 October 2019 19: 35
          +1
          Quote: Orkraider
          And when the jumper was let go, I missed

          Novak October 22 - Completed "The project for the construction of an 11-kilometer section on the border of Turkey with Bulgaria. Relevant events have taken place for the commissioning of this facility. This will allow gas to be supplied to Bulgaria from January 1 next year." "On October 21, 2019, the first stage of the Balkan Stream was put into operation in Bulgaria: an 11-kilometer gas pipeline connecting the overland extension of the Turkish Stream from the Turkish-Bulgarian border with the Bulgarian gas transmission system and the Strandzha metric station."
          1. Orkraider
            Orkraider 30 October 2019 21: 07
            +3
            However, history is going on))) Our position in the negotiations has improved dramatically, which is good. And so that the opposite side does not answer, they understand this.
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 30 October 2019 21: 33
              +1
              Quote: Orkraider
              However, the story is going on)))

              So the Moldovans are going to get gas bypassing the "opposite side" - Dodon - "the parties will announce the signing of a document in the near future. Although there is hope for ensuring the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine, the signing of a contract with Gazprom will provide for the possibility of obtaining natural gas at any point delivery, including on the border with other states ". Then the question is, for whom then transit through Ukraine - the Balkans, Hungary (and from there to Austria and Italy) - TP, so Opal enters the Czech Republic, the Poles want to refuse, but they already have Yamal-Europe. Germany and so on - it's clear there. The Slovaks remain ... and for this the transit negotiations ...
  22. Romario_Argo
    Romario_Argo 30 October 2019 17: 35
    +1
    The main thing now prevent the US from buying out the Ukrainian GTS
    from January 1 of 2020, Nord Stream-2 and Turkish Stream are launched: 55 billion cubic meters. + 36 billion cubic meters gas per year. Gas pumping through the Ukrainian gas transportation system for 2018 year about 80 billion cubic meters. in year.
    We are waiting for a couple of months, until March-April of the 2020 of the year, for Ukraine to use up even technical gas from its gas transportation system.
    And we can redeem the Ukrainian gas transportation system with free injection of technical gas to resume working pressure.
    What does this mean.
    Almost complete monopolization of the European market for gas supplies from Russia.
    By the way, Zelensky still has a chance to become the Savior of Ukraine and his people,
    * if you still decide to come to Moscow
    * just also the Bulgarian stream on the way
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 30 October 2019 19: 39
      -2
      There will be no "monopolization". 40% is the maximum.
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 30 October 2019 19: 59
        0
        Wrong. At 2019, Gazprom has almost 50% = 201,8 billion cubic meters per year. in year
        Norway 130,5; England 43,7; Denmark 36,9 billion cubic meters per year = ~ 211,1 billion cubic meters
        + SP-2 and Turkish Stream = another 90 billion cubic meters. m. = 80%
        + LNG as dope is not enough for anyone but a bit more expensive
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 31 October 2019 00: 48
          0
          Maybe he was mistaken, though, unlikely.
  23. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 30 October 2019 17: 36
    +2
    Denmark has issued a permit for the construction of Nord Stream-2 in its waters

    They shamed as much as they could, but not as much as Dr. Sam prescribed.
    A sense of disgust for American vassals, ready to chop a branch under themselves, intensified. Perhaps, German partners helped to come to their senses.
    There was information that a delayed start is possible, but ... stop Will watch.
    Good news.
  24. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 30 October 2019 17: 46
    0
    Quote: NF68


    There, most likely not only Germany has pressed the necessary "button".

    Shaw, really Trump clicked? laughing
  25. Elephant
    Elephant 30 October 2019 17: 47
    +1
    Banderlog neighbors mourning in the country began. And it turns out that in vain from an independent barked towards Russia.
  26. Armata T-14
    Armata T-14 30 October 2019 18: 12
    +10
    Panic
  27. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 19: 02
    0
    Someone would doubt .. They closed their own field due to subsidence.
    Denmark simply has nowhere to take gas from anywhere, except from Germany.
    That is, from Gazprom. Hello to Nepan Shefchovich and Kobolev’s showcases ....! laughing laughing laughing
  28. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 19: 29
    0
    Now the seeds and popcorn will begin to rise in price. laughing laughing laughing
  29. Maxwrx
    Maxwrx 30 October 2019 19: 31
    0
    Good news. This will certainly give us a trump card in negotiations with Ukraine, but the delay will be about 2 months anyway. Now Gazprom’s task is to pump as much gas as possible into Europe’s storage facilities, so that if something happens they survive the end of construction.
    In the end, we will probably agree with Ukraine to remove their won lawsuit and new claims against each other, i.e. be at 0. We will sell them gas directly and 40-50 billion transit will be left for new markets.
    They have no where to go. The budget revenues of Ukraine are about $ 30 billion, the gas pipeline for transit yielded $ 3 billion per year + reverse supplies. Alternative gas from other countries can cost up to $ 200 more. So if the brains remain, then be sure to agree. But they already said that they have enough gas reserves for the whole winter!)
  30. capsid
    capsid 30 October 2019 19: 46
    -3
    In vain, Denmark gave permission. Again, the Russian Federation increases the dose and sale of gas .. Eh .. gas dependence .. negative
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 30 October 2019 20: 47
      0
      Like Speed, you're wrong))
  31. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 19: 52
    0
    Quote: NF68
    Quote: Old Bun
    it seems to me that more pressure from Germany affected


    There, most likely not only Germany has pressed the necessary "button".
    It seems that just before the end of October the question of permission from Denmark was raised - they will have time. Apparently Merkel called and gave a kick. Otherwise, Denmark would go to trial for lost profits and forfeits.
  32. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 30 October 2019 20: 46
    -1
    Well, yes, permission from the master’s shoulder))
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 October 2019 20: 46
    -1
    Still believe in gas reversal from Europe and huge gas reserves in underground storage facilities? Congratulations, you were deceived, neither one nor the other exists.

    There is an inflating cheek before the October series of negotiations on transit and nothing more.
  34. Berkut24
    Berkut24 30 October 2019 20: 49
    +1
    Naftogaz and Kobolev should be invited to their own funeral. Tseevropa - she is. Between democracy and money, the West has always chosen money.
  35. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 30 October 2019 20: 53
    0
    "... And you are Brutus (Denmark) ...", but the inhabitants of Ukraine have already recognized the Danes as "brothers-in-arms" ... crying "Nothing personal - just business ... $" - the excuse of the Danes bully ... Interestingly, Ukraine will "impose" sanctions on Denmark?
  36. tovarich-andrey.62goncharov
    tovarich-andrey.62goncharov 30 October 2019 21: 41
    0
    I wonder where is Gorenina with her analyzes and howls?
  37. Klingon
    Klingon 31 October 2019 01: 16
    0
    began to think quickly. this is after trump decided to buy Greenland wassat
  38. Klingon
    Klingon 31 October 2019 01: 18
    0
    Quote: AlexVas44
    Quote: NF68


    There, most likely not only Germany has pressed the necessary "button".

    Shaw, really Trump clicked? laughing

    clicked deciding to buy Greenland wassat
  39. Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 31 October 2019 14: 13
    0
    All this is prostitute nonsense, based on an emergency slowdown in the development of the Russian economy and an attempt by the "partners" to restrain it. I will drown myself and pull another so that the drowning person will not be offended.
  40. capsid
    capsid 1 November 2019 16: 04
    0
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Like Speed, you're wrong))

    To begin with, do not get sick and do not freak out)) Who is right and guilty is decided in court, and then by deeds, not by comments. hi