In Turkey, denied rumors about the purchase of Russian Su-35 fighters

October 30 2019

Turkey will not buy Russian Su-35 fighters, but will remain committed to the program of creating the fifth-generation American fighter F-35. This statement was made by Minister of Defense of the country Hulusi Akar, Turkish media write.

Commenting on the information of some Turkish publications about Ankara’s plans to acquire Russian aircraft, he said that it was untrue, and the Turkish Ministry of Defense intended to get the American F-35 into service.

Allegations that Turkey will receive Su-35 are not true. Turkey remains an F-35 partner and we want our rights to be respected

- Akar told reporters.

Earlier, the Turkish edition of Daily Sabah, citing its sources, reported that Turkey and Russia were close to signing a contract for the supply of a batch of Russian fighter aircraft of the 4 + Su-35 generation by the Turkish Air Force. According to the publication, it was about 36 new aircraft.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also did not rule out earlier that Ankara will consider the purchase of Russian Su-35 and Su-57 fighters, but only if the United States completely deprives Turkey of the chance to get American F-35.

Note that at the end of June this year, the US Senate banned the sale of fifth-generation F-35 fighters to Turkey due to the purchase of the latest Russian C-400 anti-aircraft missile system. Despite this, Ankara hopes that they can overcome the American ban and get these aircraft into service.

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Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 10: 13
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Allegations that Turkey will receive Su-35 are not true. Turkey remains an F-35 partner and we want our rights to be respected
and it is unknown whether to rejoice or upset. Both options have their pros and cons.
1. aszzz888 30 October 2019 10: 18
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  Allegations that Turkey will receive Su-35 are not true. Turkey remains an F-35 partner and we want our rights to be respected
  and it is unknown whether to rejoice or upset. Both options have their pros and cons.
  
  We must wait, and everything will fall into place. Or puzzles.
  1. Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 10: 25
    
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    We must wait, and everything will fall into place.
    
    It’s clear that everything will ever end, and Turkish politicians will throw on this issue, but here the question is which of the options is more beneficial for us, that's what I’m talking about.
    1. aszzz888 30 October 2019 10: 27
      
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      Pedrodepackes (Alex) Today, 10: 25 ... but here the question is, which of the options is more beneficial to us, that's what I'm talking about.
      
      There is a whole field for fantasies and assumptions. From sharp positive to moderate negative.
      1. Hunter 2 30 October 2019 10: 33
        
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        I'm afraid of the desire or not the desire of Turkey - Nothing depends on it!
        If Mattresses sell airplanes - Turks will buy, if not sell - Turks will look for an alternative!
        In general - They want to punish, want to - take a sip ... and these throwings will be very long! Today, the US Congress approved sanctions against Turkey on the S-400 and Kurds.
        
        vadson 30 October 2019 12: 08
        
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        Well, who about 5 years ago would have thought that the Turks would buy a s400. both Chinese and Americans were in the tender. And we. I just don’t remember with c300 or 400. But he is.
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  2. Cut Samshitov 30 October 2019 12: 11
    
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    Just the Turks were offended. Blacks wrote off 20 billion, but they don’t. It is necessary to give the Turks a nuclear station, and they will buy airplanes from us. Probably later.
2. mark1 30 October 2019 11: 04
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  Rejoice. in any situation, the NATO countries are not worth arming. Everything, sooner or later (rather sooner) will be at American training grounds.
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    Rejoice. in any situation, the NATO countries are not worth arming.
    
    this is undoubtedly a plus, but after all, Turkish money not received for our Su-35 will not go to refinement and production of the Su-57, and this is a minus.
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    sooner or later (sooner sooner) will be at the American training grounds.
    when it turns out, his technology will no longer be modern.
    1. mark1 30 October 2019 11: 15
      
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      but after all, Turkish money not received for our Su-35 will not go to refinement and release of the Su-57,
      
      But perhaps in our budget. for the release and development of the Su-57, Turkish money is pledged?
      1. Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 11: 24
        
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        But perhaps in our budget. for the release and development of the Su-57, Turkish money is pledged?
        
        there would be money, but to lay them is not a problem. In the meantime, due to lack or lack of funding, schedules are shifting to the right, unfortunately.
        
        mark1 30 October 2019 11: 26
        
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        This is not about money. (Almost)
        
        Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 11: 28
        
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        This is not about money.
        
        and because of what? All R&D requires huge injections, as well as the construction of new plants, the creation of an element base, and the training of workers. Not for nothing, after all.
        
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        Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 11: 39
        
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        you will be knee-deep.
        
        tell me where they are. I’ll go rustling banknotes, like autumn leaves)))
        
        mark1 30 October 2019 11: 52
        
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        Make a rustle of leaves, closing your eyes and thinking about banknotes. You will be pleased.
        
        Pedrodepackes 30 October 2019 11: 53
        
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        Make a rustle of leaves, closing your eyes and thinking about banknotes.
        
        it would be nice, but there are no leaves.
      2. Herman 4223 30 October 2019 18: 21
        
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        No, not mortgaged, but the manufacturer and allies will receive part of the amount. This money can go to modernize production.
3. keeper03 30 October 2019 14: 50
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  Who wants to sit on two chairs - usually breaks a point! So we will see!
  1. Alex777 30 October 2019 15: 13
    
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    IMHO the Turks do not need our aircraft. Absolutely.
    F-16 them just right. And also the S-400 division.
4. TermNachTer 30 October 2019 19: 42
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  I still wildly apologize - how are they going to buy the F - 35 if Congress has banned the sale? And judging by the fact that relations between Ankara and the Washington Reich Chancellery continue to deteriorate - I am tormented by vague doubts ...
  1. parkello 31 October 2019 11: 24
    
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    So after all, recently, only the US Department of Defense signed a contract with Lohid Martyn. On the purchase of 400 fighters. Do you think they are all for mattresses? no, of course ... a good half will go for export. and if the Turks show the money, then no one will forbid them to buy, they are perfectly aware of this and feel the end of the coccygeal bone. but the fact that Erdogan flew in Sochi and looked at the su-57, after all, no one forbids watching either. Do not be fooled that relations with them are deteriorating, they will buy themselves other more loyal relations for money, and tomorrow it will turn out that the Turks did not slaughter the Armenians at all, but most likely "deported" across the open border. ..von with the Kurds seemed to be playing tricks, and then once and thrown. and now they went again to "help" protect the oil. Americans cannot be trusted from their word at all. even when they tell the truth, they lie, because tomorrow they will refute it and - will declare about a new "truth", Revealed as a result of data analysis ... this is a completely false and rotten state.
    1. TermNachTer 31 October 2019 18: 54
      
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      The fact that part F-35 will be exported is understandable, but I think that Turkey will not participate in this holiday. Although perhaps this is even better for the Turks, because, for now, the f - 35 is a very dubious airplane, for very decent money.
      1. parkello 31 October 2019 21: 58
        
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        I agree, f 35 is raw and small. the bomb is not capacious, but the Turks have already trained on it ... they need this plane for their image, they say look at us how cool we are and we bought from the Russians and we invest in NATO. they benefit from NATO more. than NATO from them. they just have geography and size. and so ... in a word, the Turks. I am sure that they will look for a loophole and find. they are good and cunning diplomats.
        
        TermNachTer 31 October 2019 22: 03
        
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        Heard the news - mattresses impose sanctions against Turkey. The Turks, of course, would be happy to receive at least a few pieces for disassembly, but I think the mattresses will not give them such a gift.
        
        parkello 31 October 2019 22: 08
        
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        Nope, I have not heard. mattresses can impose sanctions and then they themselves do not comply. I don’t believe anything. They are involved everywhere and in any dirt. therefore, I expect from them any nasty things and misunderstanding. in short, these are mattresses ... they sing like that today, tomorrow they will change the record, and then they can twist that record again.
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Earlier, the Turkish publication Daily Sabah, citing its sources, reportedthat Turkey and Russia are close to signing a contract for the supply by the Turkish Air Force of a batch of Russian 4 + Su-35 generation fighters. According to the publication, it was about 36 new aircraft.

As my commander used to say: "Everybody lies, and they steal." And he was not far from the truth.
1. Stas157 30 October 2019 14: 52
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  Earlier, the Turkish publication Daily Sabah, citing its sources
  
  Some Turkish publication, with reference to some sources ... The latest news was reported by the country's top official. The official made a statement:
  Made such a statement secretary of defense Hulusi Acar
Mavrikiy 30 October 2019 10: 18
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Turkey will not purchase Russian Su-35 fighters, but will remain committed to the program for creating the fifth-generation American fighter F-35. This statement was made by Minister of Defense Hulusi Akar,
The more talking heads, the more options for the "future" of Turkey. Confuse everyone, chatter, a real oriental bazaar. Tradition however.
novel66 30 October 2019 10: 34
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they have already been told - Hulusi them and not f-35
1. knn54 30 October 2019 12: 01
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  Not F-35, but the Armenian Genocide.
  And the East ... is dark.
  1. Polite Moose 30 October 2019 12: 48
    
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    Not F-35, but the Armenian Genocide.
    
    If the Turks still buy the F-35, then immediately reveal the historical facts of the innocence of the Turks in the Armenian genocide. It turns out that the Iranians and Venezuelans slaughtered the Armenians. And Assad’s great-grandfather personally gave them orders.
rotmistr60 30 October 2019 10: 35
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Ankara hopes that they can overcome the American ban and get these aircraft into service.
When Erdogan mentioned that the possibility of buying Russian planes was not ruled out, he, out of habit, decided once again to include a little blackmail from the United States, and suddenly he would give it a ride. But so far the recognition of the Armenian genocide by the Turks has only "rolled" in the Senate, which is like a sickle in one place for the Turks. Therefore, the Turks hope for the possible favor of the Americans, but do not make a mistake yourself.
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"...Turkey will not buy Russian Su-35 fighters..."
! ...Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan also did not rule out earlier that Ankara will consider the purchase of Russian Su-35 and Su-57 fighters... ... "
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I recalled such a "bearded" anecdote: What is the difference between a diplomat, a girl and an officer?
- If the diplomat says "Yes" - it means "Maybe"; If the diplomat says “Maybe”, it means “No”; If the diplomat says "No" - it means not a diplomat!
- If a girl says "No" - it means "Maybe"; If a girl says "Maybe" it means "Yes"; If a girl says "Yes" - then she already not a girl!
- If the officer says "Yes" - it means "Yes"; If the officer says "No", it means "No"; If a diplomat says "Maybe" - it means not an officer!

Interesting: Erdogan said "Maybe" (as befits a diplomat!), And the country's Defense Minister Hulusi Akar (also somewhere a politician and diplomat, the post "obliges"!) - said - "NO" !. And he is a cat in this case (according to the anecdote) - a virgin or an officer ???
1. mark1 30 October 2019 11: 09
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  And the cat in this case (according to the joke) - a virgin or an officer ???
  
  Officer widow, by mistake, a virgin, but she was told that she was a diplomat
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    Officer widow, by mistake, a virgin, but she was told that she was a diplomat
    
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    In! I would also add "not an officer," but rather a "non-commissioned widow" !!! Once again -
Mouse 30 October 2019 10: 38
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they want to eat a fish and sit on something there ...
1. Igorpl 30 October 2019 14: 57
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  We were told and pass the bones.
  1. Mouse 30 October 2019 17: 41
    
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    And climb on the tree, and the ass does not scratch ...
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Selling a 4 ++ fighter is undoubtedly good these days. And such opportunities will decrease every year.
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In my opinion, Turkey has now clearly demonstrated which plane it considers the best. No?
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  And what is there to prove? One Like an old woman with painted lips (su 35) and the second like a sperm will be pregnant or not nobody knows (su 57) and no matter how patriots crowed fu 35 there is no alternative (fu 22 and China does not count with its crafts)
2. venik 30 October 2019 13: 37
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  In my opinion, Turkey has now clearly demonstrated which plane it considers the best. No?
  
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  She (in the sense of Turkey) showed - WHAT plane to her (Turkey) FAVORABLE buy!!!
  And this is a little different things!
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    In my opinion, Turkey has now clearly demonstrated which plane it considers the best. No?
    
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    She (in the sense of Turkey) showed - WHAT plane to her (Turkey) FAVORABLE buy!!!
    And this is a little different things!
    
    Expand the answer, otherwise I don’t understand.
    Everyone knows that the "penguin" is not a flying misunderstanding that the Americans simply "force to buy their vassals". And then bam - instead of this "misunderstanding" they offer to buy excellent planes at a much lower price, and they don't want to use you.
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      Expand the answer, otherwise I don’t understand.
      Everyone knows that the "penguin" is not a flying misunderstanding that the Americans simply "force to buy their vassals". And then bam - instead of this "misunderstanding" they offer to buy excellent planes at a much lower price, and they don't want to use you.
      
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      Yes, the logic (of the Turks) is extremely simple: they were participants in the F-35 creation program - they "threw in" a lot of "green lemons" into the creation of production facilities for the production of components for the "American miracle" (both the engine and the airframe) - and now "uh -f-f-f! ".... Money then Pity!! So they "spin, like a spit in a pan"!!!
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    Especially in the 35th she has already invested
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In my opinion, Turkey has now clearly demonstrated which plane it considers the best. No?

No matter how cool the Su-35 is, it’s just a 4 ++ generation airplane, and the F-35 was created as a 5th generation airplane. Perfect F-35, more perfect. All are well aware of this. Even the most patriotic forum users, somewhere deep down, have a worm of doubt about the superiority of the Su-35. Correctly considers Turkey.
1. venik 30 October 2019 16: 07
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  No matter how cool the Su-35 is, it’s just a 4 ++ generation airplane, and the F-35 was created as a 5th generation airplane.
  
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  Yes, all these "generations" are just a "publicity stunt"! WHO can say - can a 4th generation fighter "deal" with machines of the 5th generation (no less successfully than with brothers of lower "generations" ?? "Who?
  All these so-called. "generation"(as for me) - just a publicity stunt for" promoting a product to the market "!!! Like: and they (competitors) do not have a" soft female voice "warning about" detection "....
  No, well, of course I understand - well, there are all sorts of AFAR (no matter what quality), non-afterburning supersonic cruising speed, well, there are "stealth technologies" and so on. etc.)...
  Well, WHERE - the PRINCIPAL difference ???
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well, right, wait for your fu 35 for there is nothing here to desecrate noble cars with your vile asses.