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Modern taxes and “Trotsky’s scissors”. Who got under the blades?

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Do not look at the price tags, comrades Bolsheviks


In the second half of the 1923 of the year, already at the exit from the NEP, a glaring imbalance in prices between agricultural and industrial products occurred in the Soviet economy rising from its knees. Products of factories and factories, the prices of which at that time were usually converted to pounds of wheat, began to cost much more than before the World War II. At the same time, product quality has become much lower.


Modern taxes and “Trotsky’s scissors”. Who got under the blades?


The industrial price index then reached 276 percent compared to the 1913 year, while prices for agricultural products remained at the level of 85-90 percent. The People’s Commissariat of War and the Leader of the Republican Revolutionary Military Council of the Republic, Lev Trotsky, who, by the direct instructions of Lenin, who was already seriously ill, had to be transferred to the economy, beautifully called this “price scissors”.

A brilliant polemicist and orator, but not the best analyst, Trotsky justified the phenomenon itself by the need to support the revolutionary industrial proletariat and "shred" the exploiting fists. However, due to the fact that the peasants practically curtailed the sale of grain, putting the city on the brink of hunger, the government then took considerable efforts to change the situation.

Costs in the industrial sector were minimized by optimizing production, reducing staff, tightening control over the level of wages, and also by reducing the role of traders and intermediaries. The peasants were supported mainly by the ruble, paying for the state supply of grain directly, again bypassing intermediaries. Price indices soon converged noticeably: up to 131 percent in industry and 92 in rural areas.



Features of fiscal "hunting"


In modern Russia, something like “Trotsky’s scissors” has been observed for many years in taxing the commodity and non-commodity sectors of the economy. And this is largely due to the fact that we have long been accustomed to search for fiscal authorities not where it is more, but where it is lighter. But this in Soviet times, the inequality in taxes and customs duties could be explained by the need to tighten the lagging republics and regions, entire industries.

Now everything seems to be left to the market. However, the "laggards" did not disappear, they, perhaps, only become more, of course, from among those who managed to survive at all. So, in the last three to four years, they regularly tell us that the agricultural sector has “pulled”. It is clear that this is due to sanctions and counter-sanctions, and even then it affected only large-scale enterprises, which received support at the top.



The same farmers in our country are not only supported very selectively, but they are also peeled off like sticky sticks, instead of being subsidized to the maximum. This is the real “locomotive of the economy”, no longer potential, but quite real. Meanwhile, in terms of the scale of state investments in the agricultural sector, we are ten times inferior to countries such as Germany, France, the USA and Canada, and even less so to China and India.

But it is important not only and not so much this lag in itself - Russia does not even choose a quarter of the quota of subsidies to the agricultural sector that is allowed to it in accordance with strict WTO rules.

With industrial enterprises, everything is also not easy. If you manage to export anything, they will return the VAT. Everything else will not go anywhere, including the fiscal taxation of literally every chain in the production of a particular product. In the end, the finished product often becomes simply “gold”, and producing in Russia is not even more profitable than semi-finished products, but all that is simpler.

Another thing - countless assembly, screwdriver production. They survive, and sometimes flourish, again largely due to the characteristics of our tax system. And also thanks to cheap labor.

Somewhere in the St. Petersburg industrial zone “Parnas” or on the border of the Kaluga region they will make, rivet and even weld any world-class products, from luxurious limousines to children's furniture. Of the finished components, for which you do not even have to pay customs duties. What’s called, there would be a demand, although with us now, things are not going well either.

And in general, it is understandable that you can’t hide the entire collective farm fields, factory or factory, if you wish, entirely in offshore. Here are different holdings and management structures - it’s as easy as shelling pears on which “effective managers” profit.



And with the workers, everything is quite simple - hire migrant workers from the Central Asian republics who will meekly unfasten half the salary upstairs - for the very fact of employment. And our potential hard workers from the hinterland, at best, will settle down somewhere in the guard, considering it a good fortune to watch TV shows in the “day in three” mode, having a salary of 30-35 thousand at the best.

However, in addition to stating facts that are not at all encouraging, the trend is important to us, or, as it is fashionable to say now, the trend. And the trend indicates that under the crack of mass media that Russia needs to get off the oil needle, the tax burden on the commodity sector, if it is growing, is by no means as strong and fast as on a non-commodity one.

It is clear that when they consider taxes in Russia, the account goes to rubles, not dollars. In ruble terms, the relative decline in oil prices is not felt so much compared to dollar calculations. Nevertheless, in the years that Russia has been living under Western sanctions, the non-primary sector began to pay about twice as much to the treasury, while the tax burden for raw materials, according to HSE estimates, increased only by 60-70 percent.

Leaving go


The data that was recently released by specialists of the Institute of Growth Economics named after P.A. Stolypin is also not encouraging: over the past ten years, the amount of taxes paid for each enterprise, excluding insurance premiums in the non-primary sector, has grown 2,65 times, in the commodity sector - only 2,2 times.

Not so long ago, examining the structure of Russian exports, specialists of the Russian Economic University named after G.V. Plekhanov noticed that the oil and gas sector lost the lead to the service sector. That is, including trade, which primarily testifies to the successful expansion into the CIS countries, former union republics and states that were once part of CMEA, as well as third world countries.

It would seem that here is another “locomotive of the economy”. Support! So no, it was precisely on trade that the Russian tax officials decided to go hardened iron. Fiscal fees in the field of trade increased over the same ten years, that is, since the crisis of 2008-2009, four times. It is clear that the most significant breakthrough came in the years of sanctions, and in this connection it also becomes clear why consumer demand has fallen so much in recent years in Russia.

Is it any wonder that in the period under review the number of trading enterprises in the country has decreased so much? They became almost a third less, although in general the non-primary sector of the economy suffered not so significant losses - only 12%.

And after all, not only in the media, but also in the government, all this time we were told about the need to reduce Russia's dependence on oil and gas exports. In fact, the specialists of REU named after G.V. Plekhanov is estimated by the current share of the primary sector in the structure of national GDP in 15,4%, while two years ago it was 12,9%. Again, do not forget that the calculations were carried out in rubles, and not in euros and dollars, which with an unstable exchange rate of the national currency can even slightly embellish the picture.

The data given by reputable experts speak only about one thing: the appetites of oilmen, gas workers, and even the oil refining sector can very well be “trimmed,” like Trotsky’s. On the agenda is tight regulation of gasoline prices, which can reduce the cost of production of the non-oil sector no worse than lowering wages or switching to envelope payments.



As you can see, the trend of abandoning oil dependence has not yet become a trend. Worse, for the sake of stimulating the development of hard-to-reach reserves, we are now talking about another portion of benefits for oil and gas companies. It is unlikely that anyone doubts that the possible loss of the budget from this will have to be compensated for by the non-oil business.

Meanwhile, in no case should one underestimate the growth potential of the gross product that companies that are not directly related to the extraction and processing of mineral resources can bring. Just do not push them into offshore and bring them under the tax guillotine, when literally every step towards a deeper redistribution results in disparate fiscal rates.

Moreover, in the current conditions, when the Central Bank has finally moved towards a consistent reduction in lending rates, first of all, its own key one, there is a danger of substituting a non-resource sector for scissors of a different kind. A credit resource for business has become more affordable and cheaper, but when more and more free funds are spent on fiscal fees, they can be returned to circulation again only through lending.

It will not cash in on the real sector, but primarily the financial one, that is, banks and structures that have joined them. But there are big doubts that financiers will be able to manage profits with greater effect than those who know the real production. Non-raw, of course.
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  1. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 06: 15
    +13
    Now everything seems to be left to the market. However, the “laggards” did not disappear, they, perhaps, are only getting larger, of course, from among those who even managed to survive.


    Let's recall what “market relations” are in principle, and what they can do. Market laws dictate (must dictate) prices depending on the quantity of available goods (product). Depending on this, the production of goods in demand is expanding, and the unnecessary segment of production is being curtailed.
    The entire tax package should have one task - state regulation of the manufacturer's capabilities.
    There is such a VAT tax. Logically, it should be paid by the manufacturer (a person selling services or goods). Then it will not be profitable for him to raise prices, for he will pay taxes. If the buyer pays for the difference, then in the absence of open competition (why strain, if the “uncle” pays) a simple, unjustified price increase will occur. That is why, at a cost of Russian oil of $ 6-8 per barrel, we have one of the most expensive gasoline at a gas station. That is why VAT should not exceed 3-5%.
    Personal income tax. The progressive scale of this taxation makes rich people share with the state in larger volumes. That is how parity is achieved between luxury and poverty.
    Practice shows that fiscal taxes turn a civilized society into a slave-owning one. Where the slave owner is the state, it ceases to fulfill the functions proper to it, but only collects taxes, basing precisely on them its functions and capabilities.
    The amount of taxes should not exceed reasonable limits and is not obliged to turn into a simple "rip-off".
    hi
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 31 October 2019 06: 41
      +25
      And there are no market relations. It’s for us at the end of the 80s, so that we don’t pay to their fraud with the Constitution, and so that they lead the country to destruction, hang noodles about the invisible hand of the market, the market will ruin everything. But first, the transition to market and reform, now here are the sanctions. Will the current generation live in the market?
      The action "krymnash" turned out to have two ends like a stick. The first positive rating went beyond the clouds, the second negative people woke up and started thinking and looking around. Of course, efforts are being made to plunge the people back into lethargy. The surest way is not to give sleeping pills, but immediately with a stick in the head, so that they switch off. True, there is a possibility that people, coming out of such a state, can give back.
      I liked the article. But we have no market. In the dense forest, wolf laws.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 31 October 2019 07: 44
        +7
        Quote: Gardamir
        РќРѕ СЂС ‹РЅРєР ° Сѓ РЅР ° СЃ нет. R 'RіР »СѓС ... РѕРј Р» есу РІРѕР »С З СЊРё Р · Р ° РєРѕРЅС‹.

        РўР ° Рє это Рё есть СЂС ‹РЅРѕРє. РћРЅ РїСЂРёС € С'Р », Р ° РјС‹ его Рё РЅРµ РїСЂРёР · РЅР ° Р »Рё. laughing Remember: "In the USSR, man is a friend to man, comrade and brother, and in the West man is a wolf to man."

        About economic "experts". None of them ever guessed the coming of the crisis. The forecasts of the meteorological center, in comparison with their predictions, are more reliable. It seems that the task of these "experts" is to fool the heads of the population that does not understand anything with clever words.
      2. UserGun
        UserGun 31 October 2019 07: 48
        -1
        Quote: Gardamir
        And there are no market relations


        So the whole world lives on communist relations? Do we understand you correctly?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 31 October 2019 09: 02
          -14
          He claims that we do not have capitalist relations. Everywhere is, but we do not.
          It is in the fierce heat of struggle with the regime that such ridiculous paradoxes are obtained.
          A characteristic feature of adherents of the Goblin sect.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 31 October 2019 09: 36
          +10
          Do we understand you correctly?
          I answer you, and Boris, and the local.
          A simple example in the spring was demolished a shopping center, recognized as a building. But this store was built in Soviet times, but not everything is clean, the owners added, well, issue a permit by taking a fine. Some of the tenants who held a place in this shopping center were left without means of subsistence. Here is such a market. The place will be allowed and sold to someone else. It is not the market that regulates, it is regulated by officials. Remember how they took Magnet from the founder of this company. Fraud with Bashkirneft, where they put Ulyukaev. So where is the market.
          And he cut me off from the Goblin after he talked with Putin.
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 31 October 2019 14: 50
            +13
            Yes, here you can add TNK-BP, which Sechin squeezed out and the same Yukos.
            Alrosa-Nyurba and Lenzoloto continue to amuse the stock exchange public and everything is not clear with Mechel.
            VTB atrocities and rakes up everything that doesn’t even lie laughing
            Surgutneftegas is saving up all its money and it is generally not known to whom it really belongs.
            Well, we went through the banks abruptly, all independent ones (the same Opening, for example) were tidied up to the state hands for nefig, here you have developed a business, you know, some kind of competition. Small ones were generally cut into hundreds. Here is such a development of the market and assistance to entrepreneurship.
            Well, the cherry on the cake is a judicial persecution of Grudinia, for the nefig in the elite row, the collective farmer encroached on the holy bully Although it would seem that the state farm also raided a couple of the largest oil companies - but no, this is a matter of principle laughing
          2. ruivit1988
            ruivit1988 4 November 2019 05: 27
            0
            You think so in vain, this is market relations. When a strong capitalist absorbs other people's capital in order to acquire even more capital. There are many ways, starting on legal grounds, to take away someone else's business, or not quite legal. After all, take large companies in the West, all sorts of Google and Microsoft, so how many small offices they gobbled up ?! And you think that the owners of the small counter so joyfully sold their offices to them?
    2. Mikhail Drabkin
      Mikhail Drabkin 31 October 2019 06: 46
      +5
      —- I understood that it’s bad as it is, but it’s not better.
      -And economic experts are looking for LOGIC CONCLUSIONS as when solving a system of homogeneous linear equations. And it requires a WILLful DECISION of power (as in 1923), affecting the interests of those in power. And "..that never happened, and here again .."
      —- A boring, boring article, without the energy and beliefs of the authors.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 07: 11
        +7
        Quote: Mikhail Drabkin
        —- I understood that it’s bad as it is, but it’s not better.

        I realized that as it is - the bulk of the population bad but there are also those who in these conditions manage to fill up the moshna and get on the Forbes lists, therefore better they does not work.
        yes
        Quote: Gardamir
        And there are no market relations ...

        ...in Russia. We have state feudal oligarchic slavery. yes
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 31 October 2019 09: 03
          -23
          Yes, even to you a bald hell, if only Putin left. The supertask of your masterminds.
          1. DEDPIHTO
            DEDPIHTO 31 October 2019 09: 25
            +13
            Quote: Mestny
            Yes, even to you a bald hell, if only Putin left. The supertask of your masterminds.
            You need this, bald .. lol But we need a socialist (communist) and a socialist course !. tongue
            1. AU Ivanov.
              AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 10: 02
              -11
              What makes you think that after a bald man a socialist will come or, God forbid, a communist? More likely, the neoconservative will be his successor, and in the worst case, the liberal.
            2. Chaldon48
              Chaldon48 7 November 2019 00: 04
              0
              The state must take the path of regulating the wild market, otherwise it will gobble up the state.
          2. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 09: 59
            -7
            The problem is not whether Putin will leave, the problem is who will come after him.
          3. andrew42
            andrew42 31 October 2019 19: 21
            +6
            After Putin out loud at the conference stated that "there will be no return to socialism," after that there is essentially nothing to talk to him about. And so everything is clear. Our bars protect their property from foreign tycoons, and the problems of "financial and fiscal serfs", that is, the problems of 95% of the population - these problems do not bother them. If our Great and Terrible puts a socialist or a communist as prime minister, then he can remain to steer the galley, flag in hand. But he CANNOT do this in principle, because the "overseer of the common fund" has the main task to maintain peace between the oligarchs, and for "Lord rams" the appearance of a good tsar is enough.
      2. passerby
        passerby 1 November 2019 09: 11
        +1
        Quote: Michael Drabkin
        —- I understood that it’s bad as it is, but it’s not better.
        -And economic experts are looking for LOGIC CONCLUSIONS as when solving a system of homogeneous linear equations. And it requires a WILLful DECISION of power (as in 1923), affecting the interests of those in power. And "..that never happened, and here again .."
        —- A boring, boring article, without the energy and beliefs of the authors.

        In addition to tediousness and scarcity, I want to note the explicit bias of the author or the author’s lack of knowledge of the material. The author gives the dynamics of the growth of the tax burden for raw materials and non-raw industries and does not give its actual value, which greatly distorts the picture. Thus, according to Rosstat, the tax burden in 2017 for the fuel and energy minerals industry amounted to 45,4 percent, and in general for trade (retail and wholesale) 3,2 percent. Seeing these figures, you perceive the dynamics of the growth of the tax burden quite differently. Is not it? And the whole article of the author consists of such distortions and distortions. It is not clear only the reason why he does it.
    3. pin_code
      pin_code 31 October 2019 06: 47
      -5
      I completely agree with your opinion on this topic.
    4. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 09: 55
      -14
      Where is our most expensive gasoline? Russia is on the list of countries with the cheapest fuel.
      1. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 10: 35
        +3
        Quote: AS Ivanov.
        Where is our most expensive gasoline?

        Yes, in any ... The cost of a barrel of oil in Russia is about $ 10. Refinery productivity (average) - 80%. Sit and count, and you will see that if you exclude the costs of transportation and processing, in its pure form the price of a liter of gasoline is 3 rubles 27 kopecks.
        In Russia, the cost of 1 kW / hour of electricity is 0,8 - 1 ruble. In the Irkutsk region, even such a tariff. But they sell it to the population 5-8 times more expensive (transmission + transformation + expenses for the maintenance of electric networks and power supply organizations) ... Not so important ... This is a matter of counting principle, because I don’t think that in the electric power industry the final product is less costly.
        3,27 x 8 = 26, 16 rubles !!!
        Is there such a price at a gas station? Compare:

        All the short! Parry if there is anything ...
        1. Invoce
          Invoce 31 October 2019 11: 18
          +7
          Each "honored" lizo ... a former member (of any organization that has corrupt contacts with decision-making bodies) has its own garden, which he spills, at the expense of the population of Russia. Starting from intermediary schemes in the supply of products, goods and services (shop, shopping center, government services) to the supply of gas, gasoline, oil for processing, electricity ... etc. This vicious scheme took root with the arrival of the democratic government of Yeltsin and has not been eliminated under the liberal governments of the GDP. Where are the gifted relatives of those involved in power and those in power to go? They are all talented and "brilliant" managers, but the people are still patient - so you can cut further .. Only this is not entirely correct in the eyes of the overwhelming majority, not so talented as the relatives of the powerful ..
        2. Cheerock
          Cheerock 31 October 2019 11: 28
          -2
          All right. In a liter of gasoline more than 20 rubles of excise taxes. Now look at the price of gas in Norway, which has its own oil. There are many times more excise taxes.
          1. kosopooz77
            kosopooz77 5 November 2019 14: 32
            0
            Norwegian salary then let's see at the same time
            1. Cheerock
              Cheerock 5 November 2019 16: 15
              0
              At the same time, let's look at taxes, price tags for life and everything else. The question was gasoline and excise taxes, which any state in the world puts in the price of gasoline, and not to whom and where to live well.
        3. AK1972
          AK1972 31 October 2019 12: 19
          +8
          Comrades, can anyone explain to me from an economic point of view why a liter of Russian gasoline "Rosneft" AI-95 in Kazakhstan in terms of rubles costs 27,5 rubles?
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 31 October 2019 12: 24
            +9
            Quote: AK1972
            Comrades, can anyone explain to me from an economic point of view why a liter of Russian gasoline "Rosneft" AI-95 in Kazakhstan in terms of rubles costs 27,5 rubles?

            The president has already explained several times, nothing is clear, but very interesting.
          2. GRIGORIY76
            GRIGORIY76 31 October 2019 16: 09
            +3
            Probably because if they deliver 35 rubles or 45 rubles each (as much as 95 in Yaroslavl we have), nobody will buy it, since not only Rosneft sells there.
            It's like with a mortgage from a savings bank in Europe. In Russia, the population can be cut, but not there.
            1. AK1972
              AK1972 31 October 2019 16: 30
              +4
              In Russia, the population can be cut, but not there.

              So sure, Gregory! Otherwise, you have to believe that Mr. Sechin loves Kazakhs so much that he trades at a loss.
    5. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 31 October 2019 10: 26
      +10
      The power in Russia simply belongs to those who live in the West and export Russian natural resources abroad. They are not interested in any development of our country, they pump, pump, and will continue to pump Russian resources abroad. To compare them with the Bolsheviks, who were thinking about the development of their country, carried out industrialization, built factories and factories, it seems to me not entirely correct ...
    6. Invoce
      Invoce 31 October 2019 11: 06
      +1
      Here the approach itself is important. A tax inspector (in his own experience) is subject to the same temptations as a policeman or an ordinary person. If you can "agree" will always agree. It is difficult to come to an agreement with large farmers, because you won't take on trifles - the turnovers are not the same, but on a large scale - you will fly in on a large one. In small-scale production "issues can be resolved", in large-scale - also, in general, everything is transparent ... This is where statistics play. There are much more small-scale industries than small-scale agricultural complexes.
    7. Cheerock
      Cheerock 31 October 2019 11: 22
      +1
      There is such a VAT tax. Logically, it should be paid by the manufacturer (a person selling services or goods).

      Are you serious? what
      VAT ALWAYS and EVERYWHERE pays the last in the chain - the end buyer of the finished product. The VAT of the entire production, logistics and trade chain is reassigned to it.
    8. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 31 October 2019 12: 31
      +4
      VAT is the most corrupt tax.
  2. samarin1969
    samarin1969 31 October 2019 06: 34
    +8
    “Worse, for the sake of stimulating the development of hard-to-reach reserves, we are now talking about another portion of benefits for oil and gas companies. There is hardly anyone doubting that possible budget losses from this will have to be compensated for by the non-resource business.”

    Here the author got to the point. Cash flow managers love to "give" benefits to people and industries. This "kindness" steals money from other people and industries. The selectivity is rather strange. In Crimea, for example, the authorities are concerned about benefits for the resort economy of the South Coast. The South Coast in Crimea is like Moscow in Russia: they live beautifully lazily collecting money. And 50 km to the north, in the heat and cold, the population plows in gardens, orchards and vineyards for the daily salary of a Yalta waiter or "room service".
    ... As William Gates says: the world is not fair, get used to it. bully
    1. pin_code
      pin_code 31 October 2019 06: 50
      +12
      more precisely so .. the state does not consider its citizens to be people. (By the state I mean government). which already ooooooooochen should have been retired at best. waiting for minusers)).
    2. DEDPIHTO
      DEDPIHTO 31 October 2019 07: 00
      +4
      And what is the daily salary of a Yalta waiter?
    3. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 07: 23
      +7
      Of all the problems of Russian oil and gas companies, I will single out only two.
      The first. How can such (seemingly state-owned) companies manage to get into multi-billion-dollar debts with such a high payment for individual effective managers?
      The second. What will the population of Russia do (if it remains in sufficient quantity) in 20-30 years in the conditions of northern latitudes, a temperate and sharply continental climate, where the average annual temperature is marked with (-) when (finally !!! fellow ) all oil and gas reserves successfully exported, deflated and capitalized will be exhausted?
      request
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      yes
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 31 October 2019 08: 08
        +3
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        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 08: 12
          +4
          Boris I read and looked through a lot of materials on the topic of alternative energy sources and I completely agree with you. There is no doubt for me that electricity is a better source of energy and heat than hydrocarbons.
          Sorry, Nikolai Tesla did not have time to tell us anything ... lol
        2. Cheerock
          Cheerock 31 October 2019 11: 38
          -5
          Switching to alternative energy sources is
          which ones exactly?
          Victim of the exam and Greta Tunberg? good
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 31 October 2019 11: 56
          +2
          Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of May 13, 2019 No. 216 “On Approving the Doctrine of Energy Security of the Russian Federation”
          14 May 2019
          8. e) e) an increase in the share of renewable energy sources in the global fuel and energy balance.

          9. The foreign policy challenge to energy security is to build up international efforts to implement climate policy and accelerate the transition to a "green economy"
          We are going back to the future, because worms crawl out of the windmills. belay
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 31 October 2019 08: 58
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        The second one. What will the population of Russia do (if it remains in sufficient numbers) in 20-30 years in the conditions of northern latitudes, a temperate and sharply continental climate,

        what will happen to humanity in general ??? without oil? because our civilization is built on it! roads, clothes, fuel, space fuel! and much more .......
  3. Vitaly Tsymbal
    Vitaly Tsymbal 31 October 2019 07: 23
    +6
    For almost twenty years in a row, our economists write their articles, analytical "thoughts", forecasts like a blueprint. I have not heard anything new or interesting from the authors. We, in the Russian economy, are not mistakes of "local significance", but a systemic error in the organization of the economy, when everyone understands that the model of destruction of the "socialist political economy" imposed on us in the 90s continues to work, and there is not enough will to create a new model "overdue in the power of politicians." They would have been calm until retirement, although they do not want to leave - the retirement age has been increased. So, under the current rulers, the authors - economists can in a year or two, without changing anything in the text, again publish their reflections)))
  4. Svarog
    Svarog 31 October 2019 07: 56
    +6
    But there are big doubts that financiers will be able to manage profits with greater effect than those who know the real production. Non-raw, of course.

    Doubts, just no. Our financiers are completely zero and will not be able to dispose of anything. The article is interesting and robust, but the root of the problem is not taxes. Everything comes from the top managers .. Why does our oil and gas sector pay less taxes than retail? Because Sechin feeds everyone with a wild beast ... differently, who is closer to the old man is living sweeter .. So the cooperative decides who should pay and how much. And their solution is simple - the poor population of the country should pay.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 31 October 2019 08: 15
      +7
      Quote: Svarog
      And their solution is simple - the poor population of the country should pay.

      I would say - "obliged" to pay for their well-being and satiety ... yes
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 31 October 2019 08: 39
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      should pay the poor population of the country.

      Just as black spots are visible in the sun, just as a dark spot is visible on a white shirt, so wealth is visible only against the background of poverty. Wealth and poverty are sides of the same coin, they are inseparable.

      I remember during perestroika liberals liked to tell us a joke about the revolution:

      The lady asks the maid
      - What kind of noise is there?
      - РевоР»СЋС † РёСЏ.
      - Рђ С З РµРіРѕ РѕРЅРё С ... РѕС‚СЏС ‚?
      - Что Р ± С ‹РЅРµ Р ± С‹ Р »Рѕ Р ± РѕРіР ° ты С ....
      - Рђ РІРѕС ‚РјРѕР№ РјСѓР¶ С ... отел, С З С‚Рѕ Р ± С ‹РЅРµ Р ± С‹ Р »Рѕ Р ± едны С ....

      РЈР »РѕРІРєР ° Р · десь РІ том, СЗ С‚Рѕ есл Рё РЅРµ Р ± СѓРґРµС ‚Р ± едны С…, то РЅРµ Р ± СѓРґРµС ‚Рё Р ° Р ± Р ± СѓРґРµС ... РќРµ Р ± СѓРґРµС ‚Р ± РѕРіР ° ты С ..., РЅРµ Р ± СѓРґРµС ‚Рё Р ± едны С .... Рђ ведь РјС ‹РЅР ° это повел РёСЃСЊ Рё вропустили Р ± РѕРіР ° ты С ..., Рё стР° Р »Рѕ РјРЅРЅРѕРі….
      1. AU Ivanov.
        AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 10: 54
        -7
        I don’t see any trick here. Or equality in poverty, as it was in the USSR, or a society where there are poor and rich. There will be no rich - everyone will be poor. A society where everyone is rich, alas, is impracticable.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 31 October 2019 11: 36
          +5
          Quote: AS Ivanov.
          Or equality in poverty, as it was in the USSR, or a society where there are poor and rich

          I doubt that you lived in the days of the Stalinist USSR, when all the people worked for the benefit of all. The result of their work was an annual reduction in prices, as a result of which the well-being of all citizens of the country increased. It is this understanding of everyone in building a new society that allowed our great-grandfathers to defend the country in the Second World War.

          Today, with rising salaries, pensions, etc., as if higher than inflation, the welfare of citizens is deteriorating. To understand what the actual inflation rate is, it is enough to know the key rate of the central bank - it clearly does not reach the premiums ..

          I am against equality in receiving benefits from the results of social labor. I am for the fact that: "Whoever trampled, he burst." I am against material wealth (excess) - I am for spiritual wealth.

          About the material inheritance. Everything that is not earned by their labor corrupts, but there are no pockets in the wooden mac.
          1. AU Ivanov.
            AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 11: 40
            -3
            I am writing about what I saw personally: about the society of "developed socialism".
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 31 October 2019 11: 48
              +2
              Quote: AS Ivanov.
              I am writing about what I saw personally: about the society of "developed socialism".

              I understood you. This was no longer a country of workers and peasants. The party nomenclature usurped power and, like any party, seeks to expand its influence and self-preservation, and the leader seeks eternal sole control. The CPSU, not standing on the platform of Marxism, inevitably led the country to capitalism. To do this, they needed 40 years - from 1953 to 1993 ....
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 31 October 2019 09: 03
      0
      Quote: Svarog
      but the root of the problem is not taxes

      root in the system. And the tax system, being a key factor in the economy, serves the interests of Imperialism. It used to be that the capitalists appropriated the result of the labor of workers, now there is a struggle for the Sources of Energy. You control energy, have everything!
  5. New Year day
    New Year day 31 October 2019 08: 57
    +7
    Is it any wonder ...

    not worth it.
  6. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 31 October 2019 09: 23
    +2
    I already wrote here about how in one company the management located abroad wanted to find out how things are actually going in the company and to develop measures for the future, and for this they hired a Russian-speaking Finn for the "audit" and he, having spent quite a long time buried in the "business papers", came later, with tears in his eyes, complaining: "I can not understand anything .... you seem to be running, not even double, but triple documentation .... I am completely lost." They thanked him, paid for his work and sent him home. This is what I mean, but to the fact that in Russia, in fact, there is only approximate information about how much and what is exported by "natural monopolies" and other exporters of natural resources, as well as how much is actually earned by the owners banks, companies, holdings, enterprises, LLCs, CJSCs, etc. And these data are "very, very" approximate, but to be honest, they are absolutely not true ... yes And yes, everything is true - the taiga is burning for natural reasons (dry thunderstorms) and due to the negligence of "tourists" ... and the recently burst dam (or cascade of dams?) In the Krasnoyarsk Territory was secretly dug at a gold mining enterprise (well, no one knew, yes- a-at night they dug ...), migrants illegally entered the territory of the Russian Federation to wash their socks there ... yeah ... yes
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 10: 27
      -2
      Suppose the taiga has always burned. Even in places where a person’s foot hasn’t stepped. At one time, I flew for air protection, so that in the know.
    2. Cheerock
      Cheerock 31 October 2019 11: 43
      0
      This is what I mean, but to the fact that in Russia, in fact, there is only approximate information about how much and what is exported by "natural monopolies" and other exporters of natural resources

      Do not smack nonsense. Anyone who has drawn up a customs declaration at least once knows that customs knows clearly up to a ton what crossed the border and at what border crossing. And God forbid you will be buried at the overload of cars, for example.
  7. bandabas
    bandabas 31 October 2019 10: 04
    +5
    I will not talk about high spheres. 8 years ago I was in the hospital with a broken leg, my wife came and said, "The tax police came, the speeding ticket has not been paid, we describe the property." The traffic violation was committed a year before and was paid immediately. The receipt remained, everything was sorted out, and an unpleasant aftertaste remained.
    Example number 2. Last week I went to the Federal Tax Service for an "open day" to find out what documents my daughter and I must submit for the paperwork on the loss of a breadwinner (unfortunately, my wife died). I found out, came the next day with my daughter. They demanded more copies, they could not tell right away. Not a royal affair. And they don’t make copies, again, it’s not a royal affair. Question. What are the employees of this global fiscal office getting paid for?
    1. Monster_Fat
      Monster_Fat 31 October 2019 10: 16
      0
      Most of all I was "killed" when communicating with Russian bureaucrats "the phrase-answer" sending you to the stations ":" This is not WE need, this is YOU-need "....
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 31 October 2019 17: 27
      +3
      Today I went again. Done. Women in uniform were unable to answer other questions. In short, I owe the Federal Tax Service to the end of my life. I have to understand it myself. Shame on a quasi-state led by DAMs ..
  8. bar
    bar 31 October 2019 10: 26
    -2
    However, due to the fact that the peasants practically curtailed the sale of grain, putting proud on the brink of hunger, then the government then took considerable efforts to change the situation.

    These "considerable efforts" - surplus appropriation with food detachments and the suppression of the Tambov rebellion with the use of chemical weapons, the burning of entire villages and the shooting of hostages?
    1. AU Ivanov.
      AU Ivanov. 31 October 2019 10: 37
      -1
      Yeah: the land is for the peasants. And what the peasant did with hard work is to take and share. As the saying goes: what they fought for and ran into.
  9. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 31 October 2019 20: 10
    +2
    Quote: Gardamir
    РќРѕ СЂС ‹РЅРєР ° Сѓ РЅР ° СЃ нет. R 'RіР »СѓС ... РѕРј Р» есу РІРѕР »С З СЊРё Р · Р ° РєРѕРЅС‹.

    Accurately written.
    And the wolves will slaughter the sheep to the last, just give a reason:
    "Yuriy Pronko: The ruling party punished the whole city for incorrect voting"

  10. Pavel57
    Pavel57 2 November 2019 19: 52
    +1
    There is no clean market. There is regulation by the state. Taxes are one of the regulatory mechanisms. But who and how applies it is a question.
  11. Amper
    Amper 3 November 2019 20: 26
    +1
    Get rich, do not forget to unfasten! The market will decide everything! Gee-gee ....
  12. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 4 November 2019 14: 04
    0
    The author touched upon a topic that is an absolute taboo for our "economists" and "financial analysts." Since she is so connected with our "elite" that it is scary to talk about her. It's time to write instead of the topic 17 pages "to avoid".