The Uranium Tails Case. Russia and nuclear waste

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The ubiquitous ecologists


We must pay tribute to modern ecologists: they really learned how to manage almost the whole world. Draconian environmental standards from the EURO series have led to the fact that in a modern car the exhaust gas purification system has become more complicated than the internal combustion engine itself.





In the United States, things are not much better. Remember the scandal with rigging the exhaust parameters of diesel engines of the Volkswagen concern, which caused the multibillion-dollar losses of the German company. This led to the fact that the Germans generally decided in the near future to abandon hydrocarbon engines, gradually converting the entire model range to electricity. At the same time, many people forget, including environmentalists, that the production of electricity will require new and new thermal power plants, as well as energy-intensive lithium mining. Windmills alone, which have already become a symbol of "clean" Europe, are not enough, even if they set all the fields and coasts. In Russia, the situation is still more adequate, but even here environmental tantrums regularly arise. One of them has become news on the import into Russia of uranium hexafluoride or, as it is also called, “uranium tails” for processing at domestic facilities. The main culprit was called the company Urenco Deutschland GmbH, engaged in the enrichment of fuel for nuclear power plants. It is generally worth the outrage here - in Germany there are technologies and a production base for uranium enrichment.



Let centrifuges be designed exclusively for peaceful use and enterprises regularly visit various control commissions designed to prevent illegal activities. But how many months will it take German specialists to rebuild the enrichment cycle for military needs in a "fire" case? However, we were a little distracted from the main topic. So, dump uranium hexafluoride is the final product of the nuclear fuel cycle, which somehow needs to be disposed of. But it contains residual amounts of uranium-235 (up to 0,7%) - it can be isolated, obtained oxide and sent back to nuclear reactors. Or enrich the “uranium tails” to the content of uranium-235 of the order of 5%, which will allow the waste to be used as fuel at nuclear power plants. Actually, this is what they are going to do in Russia by European order. Why exactly with us? Of course, it is cheaper, and also avoids the attacks of local exalted ecologists like Greenpeace. In addition, the centrifugation technology of uranium-containing substances in Russia is still the most advanced in the world. In total, before 2022, the Germans are going to introduce about 12 thousand tons of tailings into the country, which will be processed mainly at the Ural Electrochemical Plant.


Ural Electrochemical Plant


In addition, the operation will involve FSUE Sibirsky Chemical Combine (Tomsk), FSUE Angarsk Electrolysis Chemical Combine (Angarsk) or FSUE PO Electrochemical Plant (Zelenogorsk). It is important to know that after that in the Urals and Siberia They will deal with uranium hexafluoride and its impurities, the enriched fuel will be returned in containers back to Germany for use at nuclear power plants (if they were to remain in Europe at that time). »Waste They are planning to do everything in accordance with the law “On Environmental Protection”, which explicitly prohibits the indefinite burial of nuclear waste in Russia. Is everything so good and safe? Of course, there are risks, but not of a radioactive nature.

Uranium hexafluoride is an extremely unpleasant thing. This is a strong poison, which in case of fire cannot even be extinguished with water - it is with H20 is reacting. Therefore, there is still a danger, but it is purely technical in nature, since it does not even suggest a hint of large-scale radioactive contamination in the event of an accident. Moreover, Rosatom knows how to handle "uranium tails" - we have accumulated a lot of them (they say, more than 1 million tons) since the Soviet era, and the "reserve" is constantly replenished. For now, we simply store them, simultaneously developing technologies for using low-enriched form as fuel in fast neutron reactors. There are even technologies for the complete conversion into less hazardous uranium tetrafluoride and uranium oxide, but their performance is poor. By the way, Rosatom and the German Urenco are not the first to collaborate on this issue - they were engaged in similar joint projects in Russia in the 90's and the beginning of the 2000's.



According to the assurances of the Greenpeace organization, since May of this year at least six trains with “uranium tails” have arrived in the Urals from the German Gronau. Environmentalists are silent about the fact that trains with even more dangerous chemicals run daily along the Trans-Siberian Railway. Of course, you can’t find a radioactive hype here.

What to do with waste?


Nevertheless, the case of “uranium tails” raised a serious problem of the disposal of spent fuel from nuclear power plants. And in Russia, a nuclear power, this still overlaps with the question of the fuel used for nuclear submarine reactors. In our country, by the way, the situation with this is even more or less: we not only just “bury” the radioactive waste, but also recycle it into fuel. For example, at the Mayak plant in the Chelyabinsk Region, they learned how to extract 97% of uranium isotopes from highly active waste, which later goes back to the reactors. Rosatom also knows how to handle low-enriched waste, from which it is either impossible or economically unprofitable to extract uranium. Such substances are burned, fumes are filtered, soot and unburned residue are pressed in barrels, poured with cement and disposed of in landfills.


Reactor compartments of domestic submarines for long-term storage in Sayda Guba in the Murmansk region


Wastes capable of radiating heat during decay were previously stored virtually in the water column. Such is the center for conditioning and storage of radioactive waste in Andreeva Bay on the shores of the Barents Sea. Approximate according to this scheme, the disposal and storage of reactor compartments of domestic nuclear submarines is organized. Now they have accumulated more than 180. Most of them can be found on Sayda Guba in the Kola Bay, the coast of which is lined with mothballed parts of submarines. However, the most dangerous high-level waste requires much more serious measures of isolation from humans and wildlife. Ideally, such substances should be allowed to flow several hundred meters into the granite strata of a mountain range. But the problem of heat transfer arises: the lack of water cooling will lead to overheating and destruction of the sarcophagus, designed for thousands of years of storage. At the mining and chemical plant near Krasnoyarsk in the nuclear waste storage facility, this problem was partially solved by passive air cooling, but still far from ideal.

The Uranium Tails Case. Russia and nuclear waste



Examples of nuclear waste storage in Russia and Kazakhstan


It should not be considered that the storage of spent nuclear fuel is the prerogative of Russia exclusively. We are not turning into a global nuclear dump, as some experts like to say. I recall that this is generally prohibited by law. At the same time, many countries with vast sparsely populated territories are ready to make money on the unhindered storage of even highly active nuclear waste. So, in Finland, in the town of Onkala, since 2015 of the year, a capacious storage facility has been built in granite rock, designed to isolate radioactive substances for 100 thousand years. Later, Swedes and even Americans plan to follow the example of neighbors if they agree with the public about the Yucca Mountain atomic repository in the Nevada desert. However, such a long-term storage of waste may not follow at all - the leading nuclear powers are working hard on new technologies for the complete processing of nuclear waste.
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  1. +24
    31 October 2019 06: 24
    So, dump uranium hexafluoride is the final product of the nuclear fuel cycle, which somehow needs to be disposed of. But it contains residual amounts of uranium-235 (up to 0,7%) - it can be isolated, obtained oxide and sent back to nuclear reactors. Or enrich the “uranium tails” to the uranium-235 content of about 5%, which will allow the waste to be used as fuel at nuclear power plants.

    Dear author! In natural uranium, the content of the 235th isotope is 0,72%. Considering that tailings in the form of DUHF go to Russia, then on the 235th there will be about 0,3-0,35%. Why we took up this contract is very simple. Our centrifuges are better and can safely separate uranium-235 from their tails, which cannot be done with Urenco centrifuges. Tails contain less than 235th uranium than natural, which means their lower radiation hazard.

    Natural uranium and what remains after its enrichment is not radioactive waste (radioactive waste). Then tailings do not fall under the ban on the import of radioactive waste from abroad.
    1. D16
      +4
      31 October 2019 07: 07
      Furthermore. No need to bother with the processing of raw materials into uranium hexafluoride. This process also costs money. And absolutely "tailed tails" laughing processed into reactor plutonium. Then. Someday. wink
      1. +7
        31 October 2019 09: 02
        In the internet I found data that from 10 tons of depleted UF6 you get 8,91 tons g .... that is, unused waste .... Is it a lot or a little? Well, this is which side to look at. If you dive it somewhere on the so-called "training ground", somewhere "near Chelyabinsk", then yes, "nonsense" and "useful to the state." And if you bring it to Rublevka, then ...... "are you crazy? !!!" Yes
        1. +9
          31 October 2019 10: 36
          They will not bury on the "ruble", they will send them to some "Shies", but for those who disagree, there is a National Guard with clubs and a court. All those who support the import and disposal of uranium "tails" in Russia should be advised to come up with a petition proposing to bury these "tails" under their homes.
          1. +7
            31 October 2019 18: 51
            Quote: vic02
            Anyone who supports the import and disposal of uranium "tails" in Russia should be advised to come up with a petition with a proposal to bury these "tails" at home.
            For your information, depleted uranium has many uses: it is used as a counterweight in aircraft and rockets, radiation protection in medical radiation therapy and in industrial radiography equipment, as well as containers used to transport radioactive materials. The military industry uses it for the production of armor plates and armor-piercing projectiles. Still there are superhard alloys for the metalworking industry, and even paint for glass. And all your emotional escapades are either from ignorance, or you have read through Greenpeace.
            1. +2
              5 November 2019 08: 26
              It was you who listened to propaganda and miscalculated.
              we have accumulated a lot of them (they say, more than 1 million tons) since the Soviet era, and the "supply" is constantly replenished. For now, we simply store them, simultaneously developing technologies for using low-enriched form as fuel in fast neutron reactors. There are even technologies for the complete conversion to less hazardous uranium tetrafluoride and uranium oxide, but their performance is poor
              You gathered a million tons for medical purposes or for BOPS belay? Today, there is no technology for using and processing industrial ones, so everything goes to waste. In a normal way, they first develop the technology, and then they buy raw materials. And in our opinion they dump waste, simultaneously hanging noodles on the ears of ordinary people like you.
          2. 0
            2 November 2019 12: 06
            Actually, this is what they intend to do in Russia by European order.


            We are the only country in the world that solved the problem of a closed cycle of nuclear fuel - through processing, which in principle solved the problem of nuclear waste, maybe not at the level that some would like, but it makes it possible to earn serious money and solve the problem of raw materials - fossil uranium. This is tightly occupied by the Mining and Chemical Combine in Zheleznogorsk, by the way, everything is in open sources.

            So don't - "The chief has collapsed, the plaster is being removed."

            As for Germany, do you know that there is not even an Academy of Sciences?

            This is so by the way, to support the conversation. .
            1. -1
              5 November 2019 08: 36
              We are the only country in the world that has solved the problem of a closed cycle of nuclear fuel - through reprocessing, which basically solved the problem of nuclear waste
              Where, at what enterprise do we have a full cycle, in what volumes is the processing carried out? Let me remind you that we are talking about volumes of more than a million tons.
        2. D16
          -1
          1 November 2019 21: 52
          If you dive it somewhere on the so-called "testing ground", somewhere "near Chelyabinsk", then yes, "nonsense" and "the state is useful." And if you bring it to Rublevka, then ...... "are you crazy? !!!" yes

          Grandchildren of Chelyabinsk will say thanks for the training ground. The truth is first cursed for the sale of hydrocarbons laughing . Not a long time left to grunt oil.
    2. +4
      31 October 2019 08: 28
      On this occasion, there was a small release on "geoenergetics" with Boris Martsinkevich.
      Leading of course, a unique victim of the exam laughing
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hso_39zSZ9k
    3. +4
      31 October 2019 08: 40
      Centrifuges, of course, are good, the only problem is that
      the remaining 90% of "emptied" waste will be left in Russia
      Do you want a burial ground to appear in your neighborhood? I do not, so here I fully support the Greenpeace.
      1. 0
        31 October 2019 18: 19
        Quote: vic02
        Centrifuges, of course, are good, the only problem is that
        the remaining 90% of "emptied" waste will be left in Russia
        Do you want a burial ground to appear in your neighborhood? I do not, so here I fully support the Greenpeace.

        Paragraph! Read the paragraph to the end!
        ... risks exist but far not radioactive character
        1. -1
          5 November 2019 08: 29
          Paragraph! Read the paragraph to the end!
          Tell me, which burial ground do you prefer near by your side - radiation or chemical?
      2. +1
        31 October 2019 18: 53
        Quote: vic02
        Do you want a burial ground to appear in your neighborhood?

        And what is the burial ground for? Do you have any idea about this problem, or so - "passed by"? These are the "experts" who make noise from scratch, not understanding what they are making noise about.
        1. 0
          5 November 2019 08: 32
          These are the "experts" who make noise from scratch, not understanding what they are making noise about
          Well, you, of course, an expert on this comment immediately see! I answered your previous one.
    4. +2
      31 October 2019 10: 14
      Boris Martsinkevich in simple and accessible language about "tails" and provocation of "Greenpeace" ...
  2. -2
    31 October 2019 07: 51
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuXQUA52Ejg
  3. -1
    31 October 2019 07: 56
    I assure many interesting things!
  4. +6
    31 October 2019 08: 12
    . Rosatom knows how to handle "uranium tails" - we have accumulated a lot of them (they say, more than 1 million tons) since the Soviet era, and "Stock" is constantly replenished.

    Isn't it better to process your own tails first, and then foreign ones?
    1. +3
      31 October 2019 14: 16
      Of course better. Only all the separation capacities after the collapse of the USSR remained in Russia. The most "rich" in uranium-235 tails began to be driven through centrifuges again in the 90s. In the last decade, the installation of the latest generation 9+ centrifuges (10) is gradually taking place to replace the old ones. Some tails began to run for the third time. But this is at its own expense, it is banal electricity costs money.

      Urenco pays for work, which is important in conditions of underfunding of Rosatom by the state. Simply, people will have work and salary and no cuts. By the way, fluoride alone also costs money (it is used many times).
  5. BAI
    +3
    31 October 2019 08: 49
    In fact, the point is that spent fuel becomes a valuable raw material. And in a few years (or decades), it will become a valuable resource. Do not forget, the spent fuel of nuclear power plants - can be used as starting material for producing weapons-grade plutonium, which already affects the country's security - there is a full reason to take back your spent fuel. And if you manage to grab someone else's, it’s even better.
    1. +4
      31 October 2019 11: 10
      Spent nuclear fuel is a highly radiating structure with a complete periodic table inside. Their processing is extremely costly and so far is carried out more as an experiment. Plutonium is there too ..... but it is "dirty" in contrast to the weapon. OTN can be used in fast reactors or MOX fuel assemblies. But here is the same problem - all this "dirty"
      1. +1
        31 October 2019 19: 02
        Quote: balunn
        SNF is a highly luminous structure with a full periodic table inside.

        And where is it about SNF? It is about depleted uranium. Can you distinguish it from SNF?
        1. 0
          1 November 2019 10: 25
          Do not forget, spent fuel from nuclear power plants - can be used as starting material for weapons-grade plutonium

          Depleted uranium is easy to distinguish from SNF. Having a particle recorder. Uranus itself is alpha active and is not particularly dangerous. SNF is alpha, beta particles, gamma radiation. You will not come close to spent nuclear fuel without protection, and you are welcome to clean uranium assemblies.
    2. +1
      31 October 2019 11: 41
      We already had about 150-200 tons of "free" weapons-grade plutonium by 1990. Plus tens of tons more from nuclear arms reductions. What to do with this is decidedly incomprehensible. Breeders will not solve the issue, plus there are a lot of questions for breeders themselves.
  6. +7
    31 October 2019 09: 14
    As people did not ask us, they do not ask.
    From the Mayak plant to the north and south, two millionaire cities are located relatively close.

    When Lighthouse threw out radioactive ruthenium in 2017, small animals died like rabbits in the surrounding farms (the farmer complained that the rabbits in the month when the release occurred, blood came out of 10's mouth died 9). Nobody is interested in what effect the radioactive release had on people - the attitude is even more disregard than in the times of the USSR.
    1. +5
      31 October 2019 11: 44
      So the decision was made, there is a flow from all domestic information channels - green energy is a scam of suckers, and an atom is a superfood. A balanced approach is not and is not expected.
      1. +4
        31 October 2019 12: 13
        Remaining illusions about "kind Putin" were dispelled when he expressed his positive decision to build the Tominsky GOK with its future acid tailings, adjacent to the only source of drinking water - the city reservoir, and all this within 18 km from the millionth city. All tailing dumps of this type break through in 30-50 years - they are overflowing with precipitation and it is only a matter of time before the Tominskoye breaks through.
        By that time, the owners (offshore company) will withdraw the funds and leave the millionth city to deal with the poisoned territories.
        Ecologists were branded enemies of the economy, and rubbed into the mud with custom-made transmissions from the owner of the mining and processing enterprise (Even in the program, people and law, sales magazines defamed Chelyabinsk environmentalists), despite the fact that a third of the cars went with STOP GOK stickers, expressing their opinions.
        Now there is an outflow of the active population from the city.
        The people do not want the children to grow up next to the acid garbage.

        The authorities do not care about the population!
        1. +4
          31 October 2019 19: 12
          Exactly the same howl was heard in connection with the proposed development of nickel ores in the Voronezh region. As it turned out, the pseudo-ecologists were seeking only kickbacks from the regional leadership. The situation is the same now. "Ecologists" find illiterate fools, hang noodles on their ears, inflame them - and have their own gesheft. Note: there are no environmentalists who would protest against the transportation of tanks with chlorine, acetone, melange, sulfur dichloride by rail ... This is a million times more dangerous than uranium "tails".
          1. -3
            4 November 2019 13: 18
            Quote: astepanov
            Exactly the same howl was heard in connection with the proposed development of nickel ores in the Voronezh region. As it turned out, pseudo-ecologists sought only kickbacks from the leadership of the region.

            YOU conducted an examination in the Voronezh region? but in the USSR they did, and this nickel has been known since then. So, according to the expertise in the USSR, from behind the Khoper river basin they abandoned this idea ...
            And there were no pseudo-ecologists there. provide proofs.
            This is Nickel. Damage to ecologists there will be irreparable.
            So far, no documentation has yet been provided by the company that will develop the ore there on any environmental impacts. Because it can’t provide anything really good. For everything to go smoothly, it will be necessary to recognize that the central black earth will disappear as an agrarian region. 300 km zone. and the entire area of ​​the Khoper basin will be killed. thereby kill the entire Azov pool, Khoper is the largest tributary of the Don ....
            1. 0
              4 November 2019 16: 20
              Young man, I did not drink to brotherhood with you - so show boorish manners when dealing with drunk girls. Nickel and ecology are common nouns, they are written with lowercase, not uppercase. "Documentation on the impact on the environment" no one at the design stage, if you please read the GOSTs. The documentation includes a list of environmental protection measures.
              In general, go to school.
    2. +3
      31 October 2019 23: 33
      Gee. According to the map, one and a half grams of ruthenium oxide was thrown over Romania.
      The hype was raised to get a map of the radioactive contamination of Russia for FREE after the explosions of Ukrainian nuclear power plants. Model infection carried out.
      Find a map of the distribution of ruthenium in France and Germany. Yes, for no money you will not find! And our liberals laid out free exposure points for dirty radioactive bombs.
    3. 0
      5 November 2019 11: 48
      Quote: DimerVladimer
      As people did not ask us, they do not ask.
      From the Mayak plant to the north and south, two millionaire cities are located relatively close.

      When Lighthouse threw out radioactive ruthenium in 2017, small animals died like rabbits in the surrounding farms (the farmer complained that the rabbits in the month when the release occurred, blood came out of 10's mouth died 9). Nobody is interested in what effect the radioactive release had on people - the attitude is even more disregard than in the times of the USSR.

      After that does not mean the invasion of that. From rabbit ruthenium, blood does not come from the throat, but from the rectum. Everyone knows that! Go study manuals, witness non-policeman.
  7. +6
    31 October 2019 09: 28
    Since the 90s, nuclear waste has been brought to Siberia from around the world. It seems that for those in power, all that is beyond the Urals is no longer the territory of the Russian Federation, but an ordinary colony with which minerals are pumped and used for burial, because it’s not a pity
    1. -1
      31 October 2019 11: 12
      Here is an article in Gazeta.ru about the US exporting its radioactive waste to Ukraine. Pay attention to the title of the article - "Persons of the third grade ...." .... Compare with how such news about the export of radioactive waste to Russia is presented in the Russian media ...
      https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2019/06/13/12412045.shtml
    2. -4
      31 October 2019 11: 15
      All processing enterprises are beyond the Urals. That's why they’re being driven. In fact, I believe that if we can process, then it’s worth making money on it. But all waste - return back!
      1. -3
        31 October 2019 11: 19
        They seem to be returning to Ukraine ....
        https://politeka.net/news/436547-v-ukrainu-iz-rossii-privezut-radioaktivnye-othody/
        1. -8
          31 October 2019 12: 16
          By the way, "gentlemen-comrades"! this "hurray-little article" in the VO about "a great waste-processing power, called Russia" does not give anything in terms of coverage of the situation (and all that is connected with it) because of which the whole "fuss" flared up ... Here, I give a link below to an article that explains everything, read:
          https://bellona.ru/2019/10/29/uranovye-hvosty-snova-edut-iz-germanii-v-rossiyu/ hi
          1. +1
            6 November 2019 02: 28
            I don’t understand what kind of cattle you need to be in order to support and in every possible way to smear the contamination of Russia with nuclear slop ?! They also talk about some kind of earnings for Russia, this apparently the same awesome gesheft will become for the population of the affected regions, as the Chinese activity in Siberia and the Far East, for certain officials and their relatives the income from which they and their children live in environmentally friendly the coasts of Europe will be bought, and environmental and man-made disasters, diseases and existence on the brink of survival for people.
    3. -2
      31 October 2019 12: 11
      Nuclear waste is not brought into Russia for storage, but for PROCESSING. This is very beneficial for our country, and in terms of technology, in this area, we are ahead of the rest, with a wide margin than ballet. Many thanks to the greens of the whole world that they are so actively working for the benefit of Russia. The reprocessing of nuclear waste is environmentally friendly. Of these wastes, nuclear fuel is sold, which Russia sells, with great benefit for our country.
      The remaining waste, in which there is no longer any nuclear fuel, is packed in sealed stainless steel containers and disposed of underground. They do not create any increased radiation on the surface of the Earth.
      There can be no leakage of this waste in principle. The burial depth is large enough to withstand a direct hit on the burial ground of a meteorite the size of the Sikhote Alinsky.
      1. +4
        31 October 2019 12: 24
        The question is, where will they be stored. Here with us, or there with them. We have enough of our waste, and problems with them.
      2. +3
        31 October 2019 12: 44
        with benefit for the owners of corporations and adjacent offshore firms.
    4. +2
      31 October 2019 12: 41
      Already beyond the Moscow Ring Road. We have a Moscow garbage dump near us. Landfills directly adjacent to the borders of the city were closed and now all the guano from the capital are taken to the outskirts of the region. Plus they build a couple of incinerators. Kolomna, 100 km from Moscow.
  8. bar
    +1
    31 October 2019 10: 10
    Germans generally decided in the near future to abandon hydrocarbon engines, gradually converting the entire model range to electricity

    It remains to find out where they are going to take so much electricity?
    1. +2
      31 October 2019 10: 37
      Windmills will be tied to each Deutsch-Mobile .. laughing
    2. +2
      31 October 2019 12: 54
      Quote: bar
      It remains to find out where they are going to take so much electricity?
      Reply

      And what do you see the problem?
      1. bar
        +3
        31 October 2019 13: 13
        By and large, all the energy that is now generated in total in the internal combustion engine must be replaced with electricity. And this electricity, firstly, still needs to be generated, and secondly, brought to the consumer. This means, firstly, it is necessary to build a large number of power plants. Which ones? Wind power and solar energy are toys for greens. Hydroelectric power plants are not an option in Europe. Only thermal (hello "gas needle of Gazprom" and emissions into the atmosphere) and nuclear (hello wastes) remain. Secondly, i.e. about the infrastructure for the delivery of energy, not to mention, compared to "firstly" these are trifles.
        1. 0
          31 October 2019 13: 31
          bar(-) Is there really a shortage of EP in Europe at the moment? energy? Or do you think that short-sighted engineers work at Mercedes when they refuse to further design the internal combustion engine?
          You also need to understand that progress does not stand still and if Europe is going to abandon the ICE, then they have the resources for this transition. And pine, why should we condemn the problems of Europe, if we can switch to electricity even tomorrow, because we have enough generation, however, the transition to renewable energy is considered a threat to the country's energy security. Absurd!!!
          1. bar
            +1
            31 October 2019 14: 59
            bar (-) Is there really a lack of ep in Europe at the moment? energy?

            Have you read inattentively? At the moment, the lack of email. there is no energy in Europe. But the conversation is "about the abandonment of hydrocarbon engines." But their retiring capacities will have to be replaced with additional power generation.
            1. -3
              31 October 2019 15: 20
              bar(-) In 2018, Germany's renewable energy sector produced more electricity than coal for the first time in the world, with renewable energy sources providing 40 percent of the electricity generated per year and coal 38 percent. Germany introduced the world's first hydrogen-powered train earlier this year. So the world, in the foreseeable future, will increasingly switch to VEI.
              1. +4
                31 October 2019 23: 40
                You are naive. RES in Germany, according to installed capacity, make up a little more than 70%. At that time, thermal - only 20%. But heat generates 80% of the energy consumed. And RES - 8%. Not even enough for Tesla.
              2. +1
                1 November 2019 09: 24
                And where do the Germans get hydrogen for the train? Is it mined on the moon? Or all the same, this is an industrial energy-intensive production, which requires energy sources many times more powerful than fashionable VEI. VEI is a babble for those who do not understand anything in the production processes of something on an industrial scale.
          2. bar
            +1
            31 October 2019 18: 15
            And pine, why do we condemn the problems of Europe, if we can switch to electricity even tomorrow

            Indeed, what do we need Europe. Come on about Russia. Just not blah blah, but with numbers. So, the annual consumption of gasoline / diesel fuel by Russian ICEs is about 64 million tons. In terms of energy, this is about 770 GWh. Moreover, the annual electricity generation in our energy-surplus country is about 1.700 GWh. Using a simple nose count, it turns out that in order to replace all the internal combustion engines in Russia with electric vehicles, the generation of electricity needs to be almost doubled. It is unlikely that the situation in Germany is very different. That is what I tried to convey to you. But you, of course, can disagree, continue to believe in miracles and put minuses to me.
            1. -2
              31 October 2019 19: 14
              bar(-) Putting cons is not my entertainment. lol It is strange that you cannot hear what I am saying. And I say that Europe and other developed countries have already significantly replaced hydrocarbon energy, and this direction is not only not developing for us, but, according to the president, is a threat to national energy security.
              But renewable energy is the future of the planet, it is jobs, innovations, infrastructure. But no, this is not a route, we will burn logging and splinter, hello cheburnet.
              1. bar
                0
                31 October 2019 19: 24
                It’s strange that you cannot hear what I say

                I fully support you. It’s also strange to me that you cannot hear me. But fate is not visible sad
                1. +1
                  31 October 2019 19: 29
                  bar(-) I am glad that at least in something we have come to understand good drinks That's a plus in karma winked
        2. +2
          31 October 2019 13: 33
          They made fun of wind generation ... everywhere in bulk, but not with us ...
        3. +4
          31 October 2019 19: 35
          Quote: bar
          By and large, all the energy that is currently being produced in the internal combustion engine, must be replaced by electricity.

          Fiercely plus. Most people think that an electric car is environmentally friendly. At the same time, they are not able to look at the problem comprehensively and with numbers. Meanwhile, the electric car (especially in Russia - due to the cold climate and large distances) in the next half century will not exactly become the dominant means of transportation.
        4. 0
          6 November 2019 02: 32
          Quote: bar
          Wind and solar are toys for the green.


          In Germany, 33% of energy already comes from toys for the green, windmills and the sun. Tell us more about suffering worms and poultry ..
  9. 0
    31 October 2019 10: 24
    Drilling to Earth to magma and fusing all reprocessed nuclear waste there is an absolute solution to the problem. laughing
    1. +2
      31 October 2019 23: 00
      Quote: Operator
      Drilling to Earth to magma and fusing all reprocessed nuclear waste there is an absolute solution to the problem.

      By the way! A well to the mantle is one of the scenarios of a guaranteed doomsday. It is impossible to stop the eruption of a cerulence formed from the well. Let’s better think of something else with the waste. laughing
  10. 0
    31 October 2019 11: 04
    If the level of energy consumption continues to grow like this, then in 30 years for all these "waste" there will be such a sickly squabble. Termoyad is only in the future.
  11. +2
    31 October 2019 11: 57
    The author of the article seems to have taught chemistry at school, but not by much.
    The author of the article writes about uranium hexafluoride: "It is a strong poison, which, in the event of a fire, cannot even be extinguished with water - it reacts with H20."
    Uranium hexafluoride is really toxic. But his ignition is completely impossible. This is a compound of uranium with fluorine, and fluorine is the most active oxidizing agent - much more active than oxygen.
    It is much easier (although impossible) to burn water.
    Formula Uranium Hexofluoride UF6.
    Uranium hexafluoride is a colorless crystalline substance that sublimes (passes into a gaseous state) at 56,5 ° C and atmospheric pressure.
    Storage of uranium hexofluoride is not difficult. Its processing (enrichment) is a very profitable business for Russia. At the same time, it is environmentally friendly and provides many jobs for highly qualified employees, who are more numerous in Russia in this area than in the rest of the world combined.
    1. +4
      31 October 2019 12: 46
      The handling of radioactive materials cannot be environmentally friendly in principle.
      1. +3
        31 October 2019 12: 50
        Quote: Jager
        The handling of radioactive materials cannot be environmentally friendly in principle.

        You definitely won’t be hired by Rosatom’s PR service)
        1. -1
          2 November 2019 15: 27
          Apart from the atom, we have enough nastiness ...
      2. bar
        +2
        31 October 2019 13: 16
        The handling of radioactive materials cannot be environmentally friendly in principle.

        What to do. The very existence of mankind on planet Earth greatly harms its ecology in principle.
      3. +5
        31 October 2019 21: 53
        Quote: Jager
        The handling of radioactive materials cannot be environmentally friendly in principle.

        Do you eat tomatoes? I’ll tell you a secret: potassium, isotope 39 is radioactive. This isotope is the most common of the potassium isotopes. And contained in any plant product. In the animal, too, although less. And carbon C13, which is in any biological objects, is also radioactive. And there is a darkness of other isotopes that we encounter daily are also radioactive. So the question is not radioactivity, but how great it is.
        And now stop eating potatoes, tomatoes, cucumbers, and generally all. After all
        Quote: Jager
        The handling of radioactive materials cannot be environmentally friendly in principle.
        You remember, the ancient Romans ate vegetables - and all, as one, became extinct.
        1. -1
          2 November 2019 15: 29
          You still remember dinosaurs)) Do not compare radon from the basement with weapons-grade plutonium.
      4. +4
        31 October 2019 23: 48
        If your house is whitewashed, I congratulate you: your home has tripled the level of radioactive background.
        In Moscow, on Tverskaya, where the basement of houses is lined with German granite, the radiation level reaches 250 μR per hour. And in the zone of infection of the Chernobyl zone, in Ryazan - 45mkR. am
        1. 0
          2 November 2019 15: 35
          Again an example of delirium. Granite is a natural material and we have been living on this granite for thousands of years. And then there is solar radiation, there is generally a nightmare and horror, it causes cancer. But natural materials are one thing, man-made concentrate is another. There are atoms of uranium, thorium and other cheerful elements even in a loaf of Borodinsky. And nobody died of it. But if you eat this uranium in its pure form, then excuse me, you will definitely not live to see winter))
          1. +1
            2 November 2019 21: 39
            You did not pay attention - GERMAN granite, which the Germans brought to the monument of victory. And he is one of those places where the USSR then received uranium ore for several years. Therefore, German granite contains about 5 times more uranium, thorium, radium, radon than Kola or Caucasian.
            1. 0
              6 November 2019 02: 41
              Quote: Oo sarcasm
              Therefore, German granite contains about 5 times more uranium, thorium, radium, radon than Kola or Caucasian.

              And for this it is necessary to bring nuclear waste to Russia, from all over the world and dump it under the open sky ?? Tryndezh about some kind of processing and the like, tell some kind of kindergarten, because already the mountains of these radioactive and poisonous slops have been lying around and rotting for years under the open sky.
              1. 0
                6 November 2019 13: 55
                There are three options.
                1. The import of foreign nuclear waste, for storage, to earn pennies.
                2. Import of spent fuel elements sold earlier by the country for processing.
                3. Import of depleted uranium (in our case).
                The first is prohibited by law.
                The second is the duty of the country that sold the fuel elements.
                Third - commercial procurement of materials.
                The fact is that, with the success of fast reactors, we will need thousands of tons of uranium-238, which is "diluted" with plutonium-239, and when purchased "later" its price will increase many times over.
            2. 0
              9 November 2019 16: 27
              This is the Germans brought radioactive granite. Jews stole all the money from the bank, and Obama personally again again defiled the work of a cleaning woman in an elevator ...
  12. +6
    31 October 2019 12: 25
    For some reason, the French, who have the largest SNF reprocessing capacities, did not grab this "super-profitable" tail. It is well known that COGEMA successfully recycles not only French nuclear waste (in the country 72% of electricity was produced at nuclear power plants as of 2017), but also the same German and Japanese ones. Someone does not finish something.
    1. +3
      31 October 2019 13: 09
      If we are talking about hexafluoride, then this is not SNF :-)
    2. bar
      0
      31 October 2019 13: 19
      For some reason, the French, who have the largest SNF reprocessing capacities, did not grab this "super-profitable" tail.

      Do not confuse "power" and "technology". They are not the same thing.
    3. +2
      31 October 2019 22: 00
      Quote: lexus
      the French, who have the largest SNF reprocessing capacities, did not grab this "super-profitable" tail.

      And how many uranium enrichment capacities do they have? Do not know? I will say: the entire EU has one and a half times less enrichment capacity than the Russian Federation. And the quality of processing is lower, and the cost is higher. RF is an absolute world leader. You do not confuse the enrichment and processing of fuel elements.
  13. +3
    31 October 2019 17: 48
    The first question is why did the author get the idea that Germany has the capacity to process uranium hexafluoride? !!! As correctly noted, Russia is a leader in enrichment. So, only in 2012 we launched a new chain at the ECP in Zelenogorsk, and there is a serious ambush with hexafluoride in the world - huge reserves have been accumulated, and the French have no time to process it, they have technology behind, and in Germany I have something I don’t even remember to be processed ...
    Secondly, these are not necessarily "tails", just basically it is obtained by enriching natural uranium from yellow cake - uranium oxide-nitrous oxide ...
  14. -1
    31 October 2019 21: 31
    Until the problem of storage of radioactive waste has been resolved, the use of nuclear reactors should generally be limited, and those countries that completely abandon nuclear power plants do the right thing ... All of these radioactive waste storage facilities are dangerous for the planet’s population in the event of an earthquake and in the event of a serious terrorist attack .... It is necessary to think about how to get rid of existing radioactive waste ... Perhaps the solution would be to send radioactive waste, for example, to Venus, or Mercury ...
    1. +1
      31 October 2019 22: 02
      You zadolbali, gentlemen, confusing sour with fresh. We are not talking about the processing of radioactive waste. And pearls about the fact that
      Quote: Bear040
      the output will be the sending of radioactive waste, for example, to Venus, or Mercury ...
      Leave the third-tier science fiction.
  15. 0
    4 November 2019 13: 58
    I never understood what prevents to make a three-four-circuit system and to utilize heat from heating waste for heating greenhouses, for example. Yes, the heat is low potential, but for free!
    And the rest of the substances today are waste. And tomorrow? Is it not fuel?
    1. 0
      9 November 2019 13: 10
      Heat, um, who? Residential house? And that the water will be "active", will be radioactive, having run past the hot container?
      By the way, find out. what for they keep EXACTLY in still water, in the pool. Not flow
      1. 0
        11 November 2019 12: 45
        The last course book that I did at the institute was called "Nuclear Boiler House for the Odintsovo District, Moscow". Tell me about "active" water ...
        You need to heat the greenhouses. For them, the most will be.
        1. 0
          12 November 2019 08: 50
          Do you know about tritium? Well, ask a little why in the pools. somewhere they keep "working off" - water has to ...
          1. 0
            12 November 2019 16: 39
            Come on! Is secondary isotopes formed in water! Amazing!) You are sorry. I did not work at a coal-gas CHPP, so any coal feeder there is almost the same as the same pool. In turn, ask why this is so, and most importantly - a change in the boiler room does not die from radiation sickness!
            Scientists are very enchanted, having issued a nuclear bomb on the mountain. And they began to desperately scare people with terrifying radiation. Radiation is dangerous. But it is far from as dangerous as is commonly believed. There will be practically no secondary radiation through the secondary circuit. Do not be so disciplined to be afraid of what is ordered. A little knowledge will not hurt, believe me ...
            1. 0
              12 November 2019 21: 41
              Where did you work? And here I am at FSUE VNIINM, and the Mayak along with the Mayat - well, or ITEP is not a stranger to me ... It’s true that I didn’t study at the Moscow Art Theater and Mendelavka - RUDE Novovsky
              1. 0
                13 November 2019 09: 46
                Buy yourself a medal. I'm right. But your statement that the water of the third circuit will still be too radioactive, very strange. Especially in light of your track record. What's the matter? Trying to support a nuclear smoke curtain? Or have they been trade unions everywhere?

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