US media talked about a little-known Soviet bomber

28
In the past, seaplanes were real kings of the sky and solved all the urgent tasks of a military and civilian nature. In the post-war period, such equipment began to give way to new long-range aircraft and helicopters. But it was during this period that the projects of strategic amphibious bombers appeared.





The United States created the Martin P6M Sea Master bomber. A subsonic aircraft with a combat radius of 750 miles did not last too long, and by the early sixties it was abandoned. A similar project was developed in the USSR. Since 1955, Design Bureau V.M. Myasishchev worked on the design of the flying boat M-70.

M-70 was created as a strategic bomber with special capabilities. He had to work at a great distance from the bases: if necessary, it was possible to land on water and receive fuel from specially equipped submarines. M-70 was proposed to be equipped with nuclear and conventional weapons to defeat a variety of targets.

We worked on several versions of the M-70 aircraft with different characteristics. One of them could rise to a height of more than 16 km, the other reached 21 km. The estimated maximum speed was at 1500-1700 km / h. Such flight data allowed to break through the enemy’s air defense, built on the technology of the fifties.

M-70 never built or flew, but its appearance is known. It was proposed to build an elegant, streamlined and elongated aircraft with an arrow-shaped wing. A pair of engines was placed above the wing - like other seaplanes. Two more motors were at the base of the keel. The fuselage was equipped with hydro-skis for takeoff and landing. The crew offered to include three people.


To work with the M-70 it was necessary to build special submarines that could carry a supply of fuel and carry out refueling of aircraft on the high seas.

In parallel with the M-70 seaplane, two other bombers for ground airfields were created at Myasishchev’s bureau. With similar range characteristics, amphibians lagged behind them in other parameters. In addition, there was no clear need for a flying bomber boat. Land targets within 2 thousands of miles from Soviet territory could be attacked by land-based bombers or ballistic missiles.

In May, the 1957 of the USSR tested its first P-7 intercontinental ballistic missile. it weaponcapable of hitting a target on another continent in minutes, put an end to several promising projects aviation technicians. Further development of a supersonic seaplane was considered unnecessary. On this story The M-70 project is over.
  • https://warlera.livejournal.com/
Our news channels

Subscribe and stay up to date with the latest news and the most important events of the day.

28 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. +2
    28 October 2019 13: 24
    The article is not in the subject ... They didn’t try to transfer to the Armament? request
    1. +4
      28 October 2019 13: 34
      A real technocratic miracle, on a par with the "Caspian Monster"
      1. -1
        28 October 2019 13: 47
        KM was built and really flew. And this is +
        Myasishchev Design Bureau under the code M-60 was really being developed, an aircraft with a nuclear power plant, which was designed by AM Design Bureau. Cradles.

        was at the stage of pictures
  2. +4
    28 October 2019 13: 24
    Another dead end. But the car is beautiful.
    1. +7
      28 October 2019 13: 48
      Quote: Sawing Boxwood
      Another dead end.

      not that a dead end, just the technology has progressed in huge leaps and the plane did not have time to fit into the concept, and yes, handsome!
    2. +3
      28 October 2019 13: 53
      Unfortunately, there is no way to do without it. It is now clear that the dead end. And at that time it was a very realistic project to deliver nuclear charge to the United States. Because R-7 rocket is still in development. To overcome the air defense needed a high speed and altitude. And the range of a supersonic aircraft that could be created at that time would not be enough to bomb the United States from the territory of the USSR. Therefore, refueling was required. And they decided to do it with the help of a submarine. And as soon as it became clear that the development of the R-7 rocket was successful, they abandoned both the M-70 and the Product "350".
  3. +7
    28 October 2019 13: 34
    The ideas of Bartini who just did not use, and Tupolev. And Beriev and Myasishchev.
    1. +1
      28 October 2019 13: 47
      Quote: knn54
      The ideas of Bartini who just did not use, and Tupolev. And Beriev and Myasishchev.

      It is believed that Robert Ludwigovich Bartini was a prototype of Bulgakov’s Woland
      1. +6
        28 October 2019 15: 24
        Thrall.
        There is one. But do not forget - Bulgakov sat tightly on morphine ... And what associations at the sight of Bartini his stubborn brain gave rise to, one can only guess ...
    2. +6
      28 October 2019 13: 56
      knn54
      Without them, the ideas of a genius would have remained ideas ...
      Robert Ludwigovich was the "generator" of ideas. And different. Both feasible and downright delusional.
      But with their implementation the "maestro" somehow did not go well.
      Either the ignorance of the compromising power, or the inability to make a simple calculation of strength, or the fact that a genius should not be exchanged for any trifles ...
      Geniuses - they are like that, throwing "ideas", and you are mere mortals, let's implement it!
      1. +4
        28 October 2019 14: 23
        Alexey, I don’t agree. He was an excellent mathematician.
        His plane (s) were promoted by Marshal Zhukov. After Georgy Konstantinovich was removed from office, Bartini was "pushed back"
        And they still use the best practices ..
        I was simply not an "effective" manager.
        PS Bartini's "Steel-6" aircraft in 1933 set a world speed record of 420 km / h.
        1. +4
          28 October 2019 15: 11
          Nikolai, the fact that Bartini is a brilliant mathematician, I agree with you.
          But, in order to build advanced aircraft, this alone is not enough.
          What an example Bartini showed.
          The aircraft "Steel-6" was built according to the concept, according to the idea of ​​Bartini. But the chief designer was still Alexander Putilov.
          But what kind of aircraft (s) Bartini was promoted by George Konstantinovich, please explain.
          "Effective" managers are a common theme.
          Discussed a million twenty-eight times already.
          I’ll say one thing: you don’t need to align the people of that era with the current ones, and put the same brand on all.
          Then people thought that Soviet aviation should be the most advanced and best in the world, work for this, worry about the common cause, and do not strive for material wealth, but now they are sawing, stuffing pockets with dough, buying yachts, villas abroad, and the problems of the country and its aviation, do not care from a high note.
        2. +1
          29 October 2019 10: 25
          knn54
          You are mistaken about the world speed record!
          The 450 km / h bar was passed by F. Bonnet in 1924 on the Bernard plane.
          In 1932, Dullittle had already reached a speed of 470 km / h in the GB, which was a "flying keg".
          Kodron-460, in 1934, exceeded the 500-kilometer milestone.
          And M.S. 72, a seaplane, in the same years 1932-1934 already overcame the 700-kilometer mark.
          So the speed of 440 km / h in 1934, which was reached by "Steel-6", could no longer be a world record!
          In order not to offend Soviet aviation, I will say that the world speed record in the USSR was set later, on the machines of Bisnovat SK, SK-2. And he made, according to various archival data, from 660-680 km / h, and up to 705 km / h. But the USSR at that time was at war with Finland, was recognized as an "aggressor", was in international isolation, and, naturally, no records were recorded.
      2. +3
        28 October 2019 17: 05
        in my opinion, it was not his ignorance of sopromat that prevented him, but an elementary imprisonment.
        after the war, he also built the carry-out brain of VVA-14
        and before the war, in fact, he became the author of the quite outstanding EP-2 (Ermolaev continued it when Bartini was raked)
        1. 0
          29 October 2019 09: 59
          yehat
          As for the imprisonment, of course, there is little pleasant in it. But they also worked in such an environment. Tu-2 took off from this "sharashka". The best front-line bomber of the Second World War. There is no need to thicken the paint either, no one there "nightmares", beat them, or mocked them - they just worked 12-14 hours a day, without going anywhere. Well, perhaps for a walk into the courtyard. The money was paid, the ration was enhanced, the daily routine and strict accountability: "what was done, what was not and why." We completed the task set, created the same Tu-2 - and set free with a clear conscience! Nobody detained anyone else. Such was the time then - you and I cannot understand it!
          About VVA-14. If you face the facts, then Bartini began to build it. And abandoned after a few months. Just picked up and removed himself. The project was completed in the construction, put to the test, and experienced a completely different person. I do not remember, unfortunately, his last name.
          Well, about the EP-2 is also not quite true.
          Bartini had the Steel-7 project, a twin-engine passenger aircraft. It was built by Alexander Putilov and his design bureau, Bartini was their "ideological" leader for this project. Then he was appointed head of his own design bureau. KB-240. They drive people to him, and Ermolaev becomes Bartini's deputy, who has consistently passed almost all the steps in the design bureau, from a draftsman to the head of the design department, and a deputy general designer. Therefore, when Bartini is "imprisoned", the entire KB-240 goes under the leadership of Ermolaev. And it was he who began the project and construction of a long-range, high-speed heavy bomber. From the "Steel-7", Ermolaev's car has only the wing layout - the "reverse gull". Otherwise, it was a completely new aircraft. Another 90%! DB-240, future Er-2. Ermolaev visits Bartini in the "sharag", and he gives him ideas for the future of Er-2. Even the mathematical calculation of the wing is done anew! This confirms the fact that the Er-2 is no longer "Steel-7", but a completely different plane.
          1. 0
            29 October 2019 11: 00
            By the way, Lavochkin and Polikarpov spoke warmly about Bartini, primarily because he could throw a rational idea or a way out of the impasse and was never a burden in terms of exchange of experience.
            1. 0
              29 October 2019 11: 42
              I do not argue, absolutely!
              In terms of human qualities - Roberto Bartini on top.
              But here is the approach to business ...
              He designed, started construction, threw, without finishing, did not "fight", did not break through his projects.
              The fact that Bartini is a genius is undeniable. The thinker is not standard, not always understandable, and often on the verge of insanity. But the style of his work, to put it mildly, raises many questions ...
              Geniuses, they are also different.
              Not reproach.
              Just as an example.
              Personally, I have a lot more respect for another Brilliant Man.
              He independently began to study a phenomenon that was incomprehensible to him, created a theory, switched to practice, independently built and tested his machines, "walking" on the verge of two elements, subsequently created his own design bureau, his own production, his own design school! His "Meteors", "Comets" and a number of high-speed hydrofoils in the USSR were familiar to everyone! And the world knew about them, and bought them from us!
              This Brilliant Man did not stop at what he had achieved, he went further, creating such "flying ships" that no one else in the world had!
              And he knew how to "break through" the walls, negotiate with the "powers that be", knock out both funding and government orders for his products!
              And after all, no one declared him to be an "effective promoter" of their projects, and a "initiator" of all the others!
              Sorry, but such Geniuses are more to my liking!
              The name of this Brilliant Man is Rostislav Evgenievich Alekseev!
              Bright memory to him!
  4. +9
    28 October 2019 13: 46
    We had a lot of interesting things.

    1. +3
      28 October 2019 22: 06
      this locomotive accelerated very well, that several times it almost flew off the rail, but if the ascent started .... the turbines roared and didn’t want to go up the mountain
  5. +2
    28 October 2019 13: 54
    In May 1957, the USSR tested its first R-7 intercontinental ballistic missile. This weapon, capable of hitting a target on another continent in a matter of minutes, put an end to several promising aircraft projects. Further development of a supersonic seaplane was considered unnecessary. This was the end of the history of the M-70 project. Also ended the history of transport submarine supply projects 648 and 664. l Taking into account previous developments, in August 1959, the Main Directorate of Shipbuilding of the Navy sent to TsKB-16 for approval a draft tactical and technical assignment for a large transport nuclear submarine - a mine layer. Its combat mission was practically the same as that of the diesel-electric submarine of project 648: providing submarines operating on ocean and sea communications with cruise missiles and torpedoes, fuels and lubricants and other means of supply; seaplanes at sea - with aviation fuel; transporting amphibious assault units with small arms and cargo to remote areas or transporting the wounded; setting up minefields. "
    "https://topwar.ru/95157-bolshaya-atomnaya-podvodnaya-lodka-specialnogo-naznacheniya-pr-664.htm
  6. +3
    28 October 2019 14: 34
    It was proposed to build an elegant, streamlined and elongated aircraft with swept wing.

    Only in the figure of the M-70, the wing is more likely triangular than swept. Or am I a complete zero in aircraft.
    1. +3
      28 October 2019 15: 28
      Sergey Mikhailovich.

      Not just triangular.
      And with a variable sweep along the leading edge.
      Later, a similar wing appeared on the "pencil", it is the Su-15 fighter-interceptor.
      1. +1
        28 October 2019 17: 07
        and where is the variable sweep?
        with an ax chopped exactly
        1. 0
          29 October 2019 09: 23
          yehat
          He who has eyes, let him see ...
          And on the M-70, and on the Su-15.
          Look along the leading edge.
          What is the angle of the "arrow" at the base of the wing, and what is at the tip.
          And do not confuse variable sweep with variable wing geometry.
          For example, you also have the MiG-17, it also had a wing with variable sweep along the leading edge.
          I didn’t understand about the ax ...
  7. 0
    28 October 2019 17: 53
    In May, the 1957 of the USSR tested its first P-7 intercontinental ballistic missile. This weapon, capable of hitting a target on another continent in a matter of minutes, put an end to several promising aircraft projects. Further development of a supersonic seaplane was considered unnecessary. This is where the story of the M-70 project ended.

    Sincerely sorry, dear fellow citizens. request
    1. +1
      28 October 2019 23: 30
      Quote: Sea Cat
      Sincerely sorry, dear fellow citizens.

      The R-7 missile buried a lot of things: the La-350 Lavochkina cruise missile

      https://topwar.ru/37326-mezhkontinentalnaya-krylataya-raketa-burya.html
      Myasishchev's M-40 "Buran" cruise missile, Beriev's and Ilyushin's strategic cruise missiles for submarines.

      https://topwar.ru/98638-satelloidy-myasischeva-neobychnye-aviacionno-kosmicheskie-proekty-aktualnye-do-sih-por.html
      About the rest that Khrushchev did, it will no longer be the topic
  8. +1
    28 October 2019 19: 33
    Yes, it happens that technological progress does not stand still. But it no longer runs and flies away, progress. But at that time the thought was not bad. Although today it would not hurt to raise civilian aircraft, including small ones. hi
  9. +2
    28 October 2019 23: 47
    I am a “terrible fan” of Vladimir Mikhailovich. Because the constructive decisions chosen by him, and now "pull a nose" to many developers. OKB Andrei Nikolaevich, Tryndets how fortunate that they disbanded the 23rd. No, of course, I don’t hint at anything :) I really, really like what Myasishchev created. Impeccable shapes, perfect mass balance. Oh, I was too young in those years, I would have been about six years old, but I would have overwhelmed his gliders / developments with plague (at that time) electronics. Oh ... Everything went into ballistics. Well, okay :)
    Article, plus!))

    UPD. M-50 in general, space. Just fly away. Such an amount of automation, no aircraft ever dreamed of. The crew of two people.
    Okay. I don’t want to whine :) My time has already passed.

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar People (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned)

“Non-profit organizations, unregistered public associations or individuals performing the functions of a foreign agent,” as well as media outlets performing the functions of a foreign agent: “Medusa”; "Voice of America"; "Realities"; "Present time"; "Radio Freedom"; Ponomarev; Savitskaya; Markelov; Kamalyagin; Apakhonchich; Makarevich; Dud; Gordon; Zhdanov; Medvedev; Fedorov; "Owl"; "Alliance of Doctors"; "RKK" "Levada Center"; "Memorial"; "Voice"; "Person and law"; "Rain"; "Mediazone"; "Deutsche Welle"; QMS "Caucasian Knot"; "Insider"; "New Newspaper"