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"Protection against the Russian threat": NATO proposed to the Baltic states a joint military procurement system

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In the Baltic republics, which are part of the NATO structure, they thought about making joint military procurements. Moreover, the initiative comes from NATO.




The reason for such an initiative, as noted by representatives of the military command, is due to the fact that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia "face a single threat posed by Russia."

The meaning of the initiative is as follows: now the three republics have their own expenditures for military budgets weapons and military equipment, but these individual components can be combined.

Ultimately, as noted in NATO, this will help save money and create a unified system of "countering the Russian threat."

However, while in the Baltic States not everyone supports this kind of initiative. Thus, Janis Garisons, representing the main military department of Latvia, noted that the general procurement system for three countries at once “could have a great added value”. According to Garrison, he is not against a unified system of military procurement as such, but "it is far from advisable to transfer all procurements to such an option."

Harrison:

Our countries are not at all what the USA or Great Britain is. We, by definition, cannot carry out major military purchases. What other NATO countries can buy in the thousands, we buy in units. These are very small numbers. I don’t know how much savings are emerging in joint purchases.

In fact, they agreed with the Latvian counterpart in the Ministry of Defense of Lithuania. So, it is stated that this will require "additional synchronization of the budgets of the three countries, which is extremely difficult."

The initiative itself on a “joint military procurement system” is clearly related to promoting the idea of ​​increasing defense spending. So, in Lithuania they can’t achieve constant military spending at the level of 2 percent of GDP required by NATO.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 28 October 2019 12: 06
    +3
    Well, finally they were told the truth why they are needed.
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 28 October 2019 12: 09
      +7
      No, it's not like that. It's just that their GDP can be inflated, and 2% will have to be spent on "defense" in real money. And they just don't have enough money ...
      1. Teberii
        Teberii 28 October 2019 12: 12
        +4
        Free only cheese in a mousetrap, they just got there and will still pay for it.
        1. Greg Miller
          Greg Miller 28 October 2019 12: 19
          -7
          Independence is an extremely expensive pleasure and states like these Baltic "tigers" definitely cannot afford it. So they are looking for someone who will pay for their independence, preferably free of charge ... But absolutely free of charge, only Russia can pay for the independence of Belarus ...
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 28 October 2019 13: 02
            +7
            Quote: Greg Miller
            But absolutely free only Russia can pay for the independence of Belarus ...

            Of all this sentence, "only Russia can" is correct, the rest, you have Greg, as always - fantasies yes
          2. Chaldon48
            Chaldon48 28 October 2019 15: 04
            0
            And Belarus getting cheaper oil from Russia supplies fuel and lubricants to Ukraine.
            1. Greg Miller
              Greg Miller 28 October 2019 15: 59
              -3
              The Belarusian leadership behaves in the way that the Russian leadership allows.
        2. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 28 October 2019 12: 19
          +1
          Centralized procurement is a good way to squeeze the last penny out of the Baltic armament budgets.
          1. Invoce
            Invoce 28 October 2019 13: 20
            +1
            The lobbyists of the American military-industrial complex did their best! At the expense of the Papuans (Baltic sprats) to send money to their defense industry and receive a bonus (kickback) laughing
      2. Invoce
        Invoce 28 October 2019 13: 17
        0
        Quote: Greg Miller
        No, it's not like that. It's just that their GDP can be inflated, and 2% will have to be spent on "defense" in real money. And they just don’t have enough money...

        So they plan together to put together several armored personnel carriers, boats and a used helicopter (decommissioned), like dill laughing
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 28 October 2019 14: 39
          +3
          Quote: Invoce
          So they plan together to put together several armored personnel carriers, boats and a used helicopter (decommissioned), like dill

          There is a double benefit for sellers: there is no need to pay for the disposal of rubbish, and they will also profit from the sale of rubbish and the sale of spare parts for this rubbish.
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 28 October 2019 15: 05
            +1
            Quote: Amurets
            profits from the sale of trash and the sale of spare parts for this trash.

            And it seems a little, they will offer for a "modest" amount this junk to "modernize", rearranging the nodes from one sob to another. hi
    2. Sky strike fighter
      Sky strike fighter 28 October 2019 12: 16
      -4
      Our countries are not at all what the USA or Great Britain is. We, by definition, cannot carry out major military purchases. What other NATO countries can buy in the thousands, we buy in units. These are very small numbers. I don’t know how much savings are emerging in joint purchases.

      Well, let the Baltic states at least throw in diapers for the retreating allied army from the Middle East, otherwise "Protection from the Russian threat" is such an expensive thing. For the Baltic states, after all, the United States is fighting ISIS until now, or again for the umpteenth time ISIS has won ?
    3. mavrus
      mavrus 28 October 2019 14: 12
      0
      What is it ... NATO is offering the tribals to buy one tank for three ... and take turns chasing it in parades ...
    4. venik
      venik 28 October 2019 15: 12
      0
      Quote: Teberii
      Well, finally they were told the truth why they are needed.

      ==========
      good Well, why more These "proud Balts" NAT-e need?
  2. Krilovchanin
    Krilovchanin 28 October 2019 12: 08
    +4
    The reason for such an initiative, as noted by representatives of the military command, is due to the fact that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia "face a single threat posed by Russia."

    Shag. The reason is that these countries alone cannot overpower the volumes desired by the Americans. And I don’t want to lower prices.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 28 October 2019 12: 44
      +4
      Quote: Krilovchanin
      The reason is that these countries alone cannot overpower the volumes desired by the Americans.

      hi
      The reason is that the treasury of each "Baltutka" is only just to maintain the pants, and then there is the USA with expensive gas, Russia with an embargo on sprats and apples, with the cancellation of railway transit, transfer of sea cargo transit to its ports, and this is a loss of 15% of GDP. So, in the future, only in bed with the overlords.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 28 October 2019 13: 55
        +1
        Quote: Lelek
        The reason is that in the treasury of each "Baltutka" only to maintain the pants

        Former Latvian Prime Minister Krishtopans - “Twenty years ago I left the country for future politicians. Then in Latvia lived 2,4 million people, a deficit-free budget, and external debt - 21 times less than now. Then we had no queues for examinations in the clinic, we could cure everyone for budget money. If I knew what kind of ass the country would fall into after me, I would not leave politics ”
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 28 October 2019 15: 02
          +3
          Quote: BrTurin
          If I knew what kind of ass the country would fall into after me, I would not leave politics ”

          For the pride with which the deputies from the Baltic states left the Congress of People's Deputies of the USSR. Then the whole country was chained to televisions. They expected what would happen after the putsch. I saw this fragment of the meeting "On September 6, 1991, the President of the USSR M. Gorbachev signed three resolutions. They were made as a carbon copy and were called" On the recognition of the independence of the Republic of Lithuania (the Republic of Latvia, the Republic of Estonia). "Each version had five points. the first read: "Recognize the independence of the Republic of Lithuania (Republic of Latvia, Republic of Estonia)."
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 28 October 2019 18: 32
          0
          Quote: BrTurin
          BrTurin (Boris)

          hi
          Let's take it wider - the EU and the Russian Federation. I will not vang, I will leave it to the odious Soros:

          What is it like? what
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 28 October 2019 23: 58
            +1
            The EU has failed ... The EU has lost its way .... The EU bureaucracy has no monopoly on power ....

            But while the EU is alive and while "stop and do not rock the boat" - ex Ambassador of Austria - "" Many countries are not happy: we are not happy, Italians, partly German industry. But there is no political progress. On the issue of sanctions, someone alone could stand up and say: "I do not participate in these sanctions." Thus they will end, but with them and the one who says it. Therefore, no one dares. We need a group of countries that will oppose. Everything is not so simple "For the time being, the EU, as a spell, should be united, the way will be bad for me, but we must show that we are united. (There are many examples on this topic - Tsipras - Greece does not intend to act against EU unity on the issue of sanctions, then Italy, Hungary, Slovakia ...) We’ll wait, more and more talk about the upcoming financial crisis ... and here we will see ...
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 28 October 2019 12: 08
    +4
    . Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia “face a single threat posed by Russia.”

    I believe that at the request of the Baltic pony countries, for a fee winked , Russia can differentially develop and voice its threats separately for each yes
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 28 October 2019 12: 21
      -2
      In principle, the Balts can be freed altogether from military spending if they leave NATO and ask Russia to provide them with security from external aggression. wassat
  4. Aliken
    Aliken 28 October 2019 12: 11
    +3
    So much for your "friends", it would be better if factories and factories were built there so that they would never stand with an outstretched hand, and they drive them into military debts, because the Balts themselves will lend to buy weapons. Such a cheap divorce.
  5. Lelek
    Lelek 28 October 2019 12: 16
    +3
    Ultimately, as noted in NATO, this will help save money and create a unified system of "countering the Russian threat."
    NATO itself does not produce weapons, but lobbies for their sale to the Baltic natives. In "chocolate" the producer is the United States, since the profits are in the jar, the free intermediary is NATO and the natives under strict control. And the mention of Russia is for argumentation, well, how can we not call Guinea-Papua without it. yes
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2019 12: 32
      +2
      Quote: Lelek
      And the mention of Russia is for argumentation, how could one not call Guinea-Papua without it.

      Well, they have it like in prayer, after the end to say "Amen". So now instead of "Amen" they say "Russia".
  6. Honest Citizen
    Honest Citizen 28 October 2019 12: 23
    0
    "The State is Me!", The quote belongs to Louis, King of France. To paraphrase in a modern way: "NATO is the Anglo-Saxons"
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 October 2019 12: 25
    +2
    Our countries are not at all what the USA or Great Britain is. We, by definition, cannot carry out major military purchases. What other NATO countries can buy in the thousands, we buy in units.
    Greedy these Anglo-Saxons from NATO. What do you want to rip out of these small countries. It's just like buying a Mercedes to win a $ 10 bonus.
    1. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 28 October 2019 12: 35
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      These greedy Anglo-Saxons from NATO. Well what do you want to tear out of these small countries

      By and large, this is all verbiage and repetition: there have already been attempts to carry out joint purchases - all fail. Only in front of movie cameras are able to demonstrate consistency. In fact, a solid empty sound. Estas are highly rational; Lithuanians - everything to themselves, a splinter in a Baltic concert; Latvians and among themselves are not able to agree. Everything is like Krylov’s - once a swan pike cancer ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 October 2019 14: 46
        +1
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Only in front of movie cameras are able to demonstrate consistency.

        Everything is natural, nothing personal, only business.
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 28 October 2019 15: 55
          +2
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Everything is natural, nothing personal, only business.

          Let me rephrase: nothing personal, only personal business. Any joint purchase is doomed to problems: it is much more difficult to negotiate with a supplier about terms of delivery. Fewer people are easier, more difficult, everyone wants to participate ...
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 October 2019 16: 08
            0
            Quote: Pete Mitchell
            Fewer people are easier

            Fewer people, more rollback. More people, less kickback. Math Pocket!
            1. Pete mitchell
              Pete mitchell 28 October 2019 16: 11
              +2
              This is exactly what I wanted to say.
              Such logic does not fit into the paradigm at all 'state thinking', but which of those in power is this interested? No one. Therefore, as before - FIG they will agree
  8. HAM
    HAM 28 October 2019 12: 35
    0
    It seems that the Baltic states in NATO are completely holding on to suckers ..... not a bit of benefit from them ... they can’t even buy into a crumble .... and if they buy, how to divide? After all, they’ll cross over ...
  9. askort154
    askort154 28 October 2019 12: 42
    +3
    Inspired. Balts like a hare.

    The bear saved the fox from the wolf ...
    .. sits in a clearing with a hare.
    - the fox approaches and speaks.
    Misha, I really don’t know how best to thank you?
    Tolley to take off his underpants, toli for a bottle to run?
    - the bear thought, thought ... and said,
    - Oh, come on, little fox, blow for a bottle.
    Right Misha! A hare cried out joyfully.
    Why do we need her underpants? You’re small, but I’m big. crying
  10. Local from the Volga
    Local from the Volga 28 October 2019 12: 46
    0
    In the photo, the campaign, their whole army!
    1. askort154
      askort154 28 October 2019 13: 00
      0
      Local from the Volga ...In the photo, the campaign, their whole army!

      No, the seats are Estonian. They are still ... somewhere .... in ... p ... u ... t ... and. belay
  11. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 28 October 2019 12: 48
    0
    And so that purchases are made through the Americans!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2019 16: 23
      0
      Quote: bratchanin3
      And so that purchases are made through the Americans!

      In NATO, in any transaction, the intermediary is the Americans.
  12. Piramidon
    Piramidon 28 October 2019 12: 52
    -1
    NATO proposed Baltic joint joint procurement system

    In Russia, this is called - "divorce suckers for grandmothers"
  13. NF68
    NF68 28 October 2019 14: 13
    0
    Will they buy the 1 plane, 1 air defense system, 1 tank and one ship?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 October 2019 16: 27
      +1
      Quote: NF68
      Will they buy the 1 plane, 1 air defense system, 1 tank and one ship?

      Well, they will divide it into three, after six months they will change and so change and change.
  14. SovietUnit
    SovietUnit 28 October 2019 14: 59
    0
    A good example for a dwarf is how to conduct geopolitics with his partners.
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 October 2019 15: 39
    0
    Is it like some will buy a gun, while others will buy shells? Or will some buy a plane or a tank, while others will buy fuel with weapons? Strong.
  16. ljoha_d
    ljoha_d 28 October 2019 21: 21
    0
    So that's why our local fools are again asking for more money for fuel and road tax
  17. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 29 October 2019 05: 04
    0
    This is the "meaning" of the Russian "threat" - to sell everything that the regional committee considers necessary !!! If you don't like it, they will crush it! This is not the USSR, which provided everything for free, these will make you pay for every "sneeze".