In police of Ukraine declared that "anti-terrorist operation veterans" took out the weapon from the Golden

The deputy chief of the national police of Ukraine Vadim Troyan announced that the so-called “ATO veterans” decided to take out from the area of ​​the settlement of Zolotoe in the Donbass weapon. At the same time, Mr. Troyan claims that all the weapons that the “veterans” had were personal and legal. On what basis the legalization of these weapons took place, the representative of the leadership of the national police of Ukraine did not report.

According to Troyan, the "veterans" (and they are representatives of the radical ultranationalist formation "Azov", which is also part of the extremist "National Corps" - banned organizations in the Russian Federation) decided to remove weapons from the Zolotoy and Katerinovka districts "after a conversation with President Zelensky" .

Troyan:

In Zolotoy-4 and Katerinovka, there are 6 patrols of the national police, as well as an NPU point for receiving citizens. According to the decision of the OOS leadership, the National Guard will be sent there to ensure public order and security. Citizens can feel safe.

At the same time, the presidential office of Ukraine made it clear that the "veterans" did not take out the weapons on their own.

From a statement by the deputy head of the presidential administration Kirill Tymoshenko:

The weapon, which was allegedly not there, was seized today by the Interior Ministry.

In fact, all this resembles a staged performance, where for each of the participants the role that they must play to achieve certain goals is selected.

Comments

[Aerodrome]

this is to the nightingale and scabee-pop ...

[210ox]

What is it...? How much to weigh in grams? Noodles? So it is with us and with them ... And about this "event .... Since when did the Kalashnikov assault rifle become the personal weapon of a" veteran "?! A ghoul country.

[Tatyana]

In fact, all this resembles a staged performance, where for each of the participants the role that they must play to achieve certain goals is selected.

Moreover, it’s not in vain that Mr. Troyan, a representative of the leadership of the national police of Ukraine, claims that all the weapons that the "ATO veterans" had were personal and legal. And how much was their ILLEGAL?

It is possible that some of the weapons "ATO veterans" really handed over and they really took it out, but only for visibility, but the "veterans of the ATO" definitely have weapons left in CHRONES! You don't even need to go to the grandmother!
After all, no one even tried to seize the presence of illegal weapons and the weapons and ammunition hidden in the SHRONES upon seizure.

Only the naive can think that the "veterans" have surrendered all their weapons!

[Sibiriya]

The media shape public opinion. As an example, after Clinton’s order, 96% of the American media bought 6 of the largest US corporations. There are no facts in this news - how many units and which were exported, by whom it was exported, where it was exported, what will happen to it next. Simply put, nothing.

[Civil]

The war begins to live its life over time, and then money comes from all sides.

[Victor_B]

The circus left, but the clowns stayed!
I am sure that this is just the first thought that came to most readers.

[Chaldon48]

Ukraine is increasingly turning into the Gulyai-Pole. It remains to wait for the appearance of the new Old Man Makhno.

[bessmertniy]

If in the Donbass everything ends in peace, then all this armed freemen will engage in simple banditry.

[Prisoner]

Batek Makhnovoshek there since the time of the independence of the sea. There is no outstanding strong personality. And thank God.

[Lelek]

Quote: Chaldon48

It remains to wait for the appearance of the new Old Man Makhno.

And why wait, he is already tutochki - the former hetman Valtsman, with Lyovka Zadov - Pan Avakov, and the current hetman Ze is a cardboard fool, and of course "harnessed lads" and "drunk horses" - everything is like in Malinovka. It is not worth talking about weapons - 3 barrels per brother. Well, Ze, fight, show off ....

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Victor_B

I am sure that this is just the first thought that came to most readers.

This thought has been coming for five years now.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor_B

The circus left, but the clowns stayed!
I am sure that this is just the first thought that came to most readers.

No doubt about it. Moreover, the statement of Troyan, the deputy minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who was (and may be) the deputy commander of the Azov punitive battalion. That "the raven, the raven's eyes will peck out." Not for that to all "Azov" people throughout the government were scattered such positions. Fake!

[ul_vitalii]

This is how they try each other's teeth.

[Destiny]

To the point. We in the area did exactly that, both in the camp and in the service of the sovereign on an urgent basis. But the question is now that they are not in the zone, not in the Navy, they are positioning themselves as "white people." So behave accordingly ..

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Destiny

So behave accordingly ..

And then they wonder why they are not taken to the geyropu

[Graz]

Zelensky had a good chance to destroy all the Natsik in one place, in vain he did not use it, then there would be more trouble, they didn’t put him in a penny, in the end he would run like Yanukovych

[210ox]

What does ALL mean? There are thousands of them. Both the servicemen and the Interior Ministry sympathize with them. For them, they are "patriots". It takes will and strength. What the actor does not have and did not have.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

What does ALL mean? There are thousands of them. Both servicemen and the Ministry of Internal Affairs sympathize with them.

They have already exceeded one hundred thousand, all colors, confessions and accessories. But the result is one - Nazism.

[Lelek]

Quote: Graz

Zelensky had a good chance to destroy all the Natsik in one place

What are you talking about? Pan Ze first drummed himself in the chest, then wagged his tail, then the tent-route with a brudershaft — the hetman got up, well, that's right, otherwise you’ll get the head drunk unscrewed.

[Mountain shooter]

The mighty Rambo, came to the Barmaley, talked with them, and they rightly corrected themselves ... Hid the weapon (and is it legal at all ?. On the hands?) And stopped smiling (so that the fangs were not visible!).
He needs to increase his rating ... First, organize an obstacle for himself. Irresistible. And then his time - and removed!
They gave the deadline until December - and here you can’t dance. It must be done.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Mighty Rambo, came to the Barmaley, talked with them, and they immediately corrected.

Even in children's fairy tales, they are not corrected. Remember "Three Little Pigs", there the wolf did not improve.

[Kerensky]

At the same time, Mr. Troyan claims that all the weapons that the “veterans” had were personal and legal.

If so, then they could take him anywhere, observing the rules of transportation. This is a person's property that the state is obliged to protect. And whether he is a "veteran" or not is another question.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kerensky

This is the property of a person that the state is obligated to protect.

Something very incomprehensible. Does the state protect personal property? Then I have a question "Is there a law in Ukraine that allows individuals to have, acquire (and where to acquire, or maybe in a store?) Combat small arms (not hunting). Or Ukraine is America, but in America it is regulated by the Constitution. It is a government official. confirms the illegality of civilians' possession of military weapons, and persons with weapons in their hands are not legal gangs and are subject to condemnation.In the same America, a person who has a barrel without permission and if he still used it must be destroyed (rarely anyone survives). The constitution works.

[Kerensky]

Something very incomprehensible. Does personal property protect the state?

Yes. The state protects the personal property of a citizen. Including his personal vinar, if he signed an agreement with the state (permission). We all made an agreement with the state. Our copy of the contract is the state passport. We undertake not to be naughty and pay taxes, for which the state is obligated to protect and protect us. Is not it?

persons holding weapons are not legitimate gangs and are subject to conviction

This is not a criterion for gang formation.

[Prisoner]

Oh, there would be a picture - soldiers with Kalash through Tuzel or Termez are going home on leave! Then the customs office would definitely give "Good" without shmona. And on the topic, the neighbors did not have time to build a power. Looks like they were busy with robberies and the division of the Soviet inheritance. Not before construction. So now they are slurping a full spoon. It's a shame and a pity. And there are fears. (Crowds of frostbitten with "personal" weapons are not a very good neighborhood).

[askort154]

What impressed me most was that the president and the Natsiks were conducting their intense dialogue in Russian.

[Prisoner]

Mova "would have turned this tragedy into a farce."

[tihonmarine]

Quote: askort154

What impressed me most was that the president and the Natsiks were conducting their intense dialogue in Russian.

Great and powerful can not be forgotten.

[V1er]

Quote: bessmertniy

If in Donbass everything ends in peace, then all this armed freemen will engage in simple banditry

And now what is this free-lance doing? Everything has long been under the bandits.

[Operator]

Monika Zielinsky’s office - home machine guns and machine guns were seized from the illegal armed formations, police from the outskirts were delivered to the illegal armed groups

[rotmistr60]

all the weapons that the "veterans" had were personal and legal

I goofing. We have a fine from 500 to 1000 rubles for a week-long delay in renewal of a permit, and they have pistols and machine guns (in cases of hunting weapons) are legal. Yes, the limit of the law has long been overcome, which means the country in the near future is a complete paragraph.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: rotmistr60

We have a fine from 500 to 1000 rubles for a week-long delay in renewal of permission, and they have pistols and machine guns (in cases of hunting weapons) are legal.

But military weapons are not sold to private individuals in Russia? Estonia also has voluntary Kaitselit (Self-Defense Forces) units, but they are part of the national defense forces and are regulated by state laws. They keep weapons at home. So there is no violation here. Even in Soviet times, all residents of farmsteads were allowed to have hunting weapons (mandatory measure). And in Ukraine it is either "Petliurism" or Banderaism.

[Avior]

Such a hunter is sold that it differs from the combat one in the best workmanship and the formal impossibility of firing bursts.
Both in Russia and Ukraine.
The issue of price.
And not so expensive, by the way.

[Avior]

Yeah. Saiga MK

All the same.

[Fedorov]

What an ass it is legal! ? I live in Ukraine and have been on both sides, I tell you that I have enough veteran acquaintances (I have no sympathy for many), they brought in a lot of everything, especially in the early years, then they tightened the screws. Now it is rather difficult to smuggle something. It is necessary to disassemble and transport spare parts at different times. Even a shot RPG of the Fly type and that tube can be taken away. But really, weapons are now in full swing. Suppose if I need to, I go to my friend, give Fku to "go fishing, yes, no problem 2 liters of beer. If something heavy and rapid-fire, all on trusting personal connections, the SBU still graze. And in the article some It smells a bit like nonsense, although depending on who gives how much per paw, this cannot be taken away from us in Khokhlostan.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Fedorov

Although depending on how much one gives on the paw, this cannot be taken away from us in Khokhlostan.

If there was money, you can buy an elephant in the Arctic.

[Lexa-149]

I feel that Ukraine will wash itself with blood more than once ... It is sad.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lexa-149

I feel that Ukraine will wash itself with blood more than once

Better not.

[Lexa-149]

I don’t want it myself. But they persistently go to this ...

[Ros 56]

And what follows from this?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Ros 56

And what follows from this?

As Alexander III said, "Everything must be done to avoid war."

[Avior]

On what basis the legalization of these weapons took place, the representative of the leadership of the national police of Ukraine did not report.

This is understandable, hunting weapons. In fact, now a hunting rifle as a combat one is completely alright.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

This is understandable, hunting weapons. In fact, now a hunting rifle as a combat one is completely alright.

Of course this is all "linden" and illegal. You need to do it like in European countries, because "Ukraine is Europe" (I don't write "Tse", I have a comment.) On a legal level, allow the acquisition of small arms (combat) weapons. Pass the exam, register and take it to your health. In our country (where I live), a citizen has the right to have 14 (fourteen) barrels legally from a pistol (and a revolver) to assault rifles and cartridges. (everything is in the shops) Yu Then you don't need to resort to all sorts of tricks. In Ukraine, the legislation is at a very low level.

[alexmach]

According to Troyan, the "veterans" (and they are representatives of the radical ultranationalist formation "Azov", which is also part of the extremist "National Corps" - banned organizations in the Russian Federation) decided to remove weapons from the Zolotoy and Katerinovka districts "after a conversation with President Zelensky"

Well, here you see, on the forum, they laughed at See, and he’s not a sucker, but a superman president. I arrived and personally decided everything ..