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In China, showed the concept of "stealth" bomber H-20

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Photos showing tests of a model of an invisible bomber in a wind tunnel in China appeared on the web. On the leaked images on the Internet, it is noticeable that the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit and is also made according to the “flying wing” scheme.




Statements were made that this is the long-awaited project of the "stealth" bomber of the Celestial Empire under the name H-20. Beijing is known to borrow foreign designs, often not without the help of various reconnaissance and espionage techniques. Earlier it was reported that the PLA Air Force plans to create a new generation supersonic stealth bomber.

If in China there is such an opportunity, then this can be considered a giant leap for Chinese aerospace technology. In fact, the Air Force of the People’s Liberation Army will move from the modernized Tu-16, which they call H-6K, to a strategic bomber with invisibility technology. As soon as China creates its H-20, it will enter the elite club, which today consists of only two countries that have made such an industrial leap. But how long it will take to create such a stealth bomber is still a big question.

With that said, the fact that the photos show a copy of the B-2 Spirit does not mean at all that the PRC is showing the world the final design of the literally H-20. But by exploring the world's only invisible bomber circuit, China can get a lot more information for its own developments. In other words, American technology can be used as the basis for the Chinese concept of H-20.
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  1. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 27 October 2019 17: 09
    +3
    We will really, really see what happens ... and especially what engines China will have for such projects here)) ... I think the rest will be decided in 10 years ...
    1. knn54
      knn54 27 October 2019 18: 05
      0
      - They will move from the upgraded Tu-16, which they call the H-6K, to a strategic bomber with invisibility technology.
      The "Great Leap Forward" has already taken place in the history of the PRC. Let's see.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 27 October 2019 18: 13
        +3
        Well there is very much modernized, even externally. Here is H-6 90's


        Here is the new N6
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 October 2019 20: 37
          -4
          And what is the significant difference? The engines are probably worse than those of the old Carcass by engine hours.
          1. Timx
            Timx 27 October 2019 22: 48
            0
            In fact, our D-30s are modernized there, which the Chinese quite legally purchased on Rybinsk Saturn, I think there with a resource no worse than that of the Il-76 or Tu-154 ...
        2. sir_obs
          sir_obs 27 October 2019 20: 57
          +7
          Here is the new N6

          Well, it became more like the Chinese, the same "squinted"
    2. Lapunevsky
      Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 18: 14
      +3
      Most likely this is just a copy-model of the American B-2, with which the Chinese are trying to find out its aerodynamic characteristics, so that later they can do better on their own.
    3. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 27 October 2019 20: 12
      -4
      Nobody needs stealth technologies that are seen by a mustache, "EVEN YUGASLAVSKY old radars! 111" are copied by everyone who can, even we. Everyone would copy, but not everyone can
      1. shinobi
        shinobi 28 October 2019 02: 08
        0
        The joke of the stealth is not that they would not be seen by the radar, while this is impossible in principle, but in invisibility to the radar of the missile guidance heads. The size of the missiles does not allow them to stick a full-fledged station, and it’s an expensive pleasure. So the Yankees screwed up with their stelzami, the conversation is completely different.
  2. figwam
    figwam 27 October 2019 17: 13
    +5
    the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit

    Just a copy ...
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 27 October 2019 17: 58
      +1
      Quote: figvam
      the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit

      Just a copy ...

      By and large, much in the aircraft industry can be considered to one degree or another "copies", but in fact just superficially similar aircraft. B-1V and Tu-160, Tu-22M and FB-111, Su-27 and F-15 ... Aircraft designers also not only scold each other, but also calculate their planes based on the laws of aerodynamics, depending on the tasks.
      1. Sally
        Sally 27 October 2019 18: 05
        +7
        not much wrong. f 111 - su 24, instant 25 - f15. Su 27 is only a general class and it’s from another song, and that 22 is itself the closest but not similar from contemporary contemporaries to
      2. figwam
        figwam 27 October 2019 18: 06
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        By and large, much in aircraft construction can be considered to one degree or another "copies"

        In general, yes, but in this case, a 100% copy.
        In my opinion, the Su-111M is similar to the FB-24, and the F-25 is similar to the MiG-15.
        1. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 27 October 2019 20: 14
          0
          It always seemed to me that the F-111 was significantly larger than the Su-24. They are united only by variable geometry of the wing and 2 engines. It seems like 111 and there were more modifications for specific tasks.
          1. yehat
            yehat 28 October 2019 11: 06
            0
            f-111A was created as a fighter, f111B - this is its deep rework for shock functions, about how the su-34 and ne-2 appeared.
          2. figwam
            figwam 28 October 2019 22: 36
            0
            Quote: Ural-4320
            It always seemed to me that the F-111 was significantly larger than the Su-24.

            No, airplanes are the same in size and mass.
            Quote: yehat
            f-111A was created as a fighter

            No, it was created as a tactical bomber to overcome enemy air defense.
      3. Hog
        Hog 27 October 2019 18: 32
        +1
        Tu-22M and Su-27 are out of place here, from the word at all.
        Tu-22M was the development of the idea of ​​Tu-22 and common with the F-111 except that the variable sweep of the wing.
        The Su-27 was created as a counterweight to the F-15, but from the total it has perhaps the same class, a heavy fighter.
        So do not fence the garden out of the blue.
        1. Zeev Zeev
          Zeev Zeev 27 October 2019 18: 40
          +4
          The Tu-22M is a completely new aircraft, with the former Tu-22 having nothing much in common. But the Tupolev Design Bureau did not change the index of the aircraft in order to replay Sukhoi’s fight with its T-4 in the undercover. Type Sukhoi makes a completely new car, and we will make modernization much cheaper and faster.
          1. Hog
            Hog 28 October 2019 00: 01
            0
            Quote: Zeev Zeev
            Tu-22M is a brand new aircraft

            And where is it written that this is a modernization?
            I wanted to mess up, but out of place.
            1. Zeev Zeev
              Zeev Zeev 28 October 2019 00: 17
              -1
              In the letter "M", which the Tupolevites added to the index of a frankly failed plane.
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        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 27 October 2019 19: 12
          +3
          Quote: Hog
          Tu-22M was the development of the idea of ​​Tu-22

          Nothing in common. Completely different cars.
          1. Hog
            Hog 27 October 2019 23: 58
            +1
            Quote: Piramidon
            Quote: Hog
            Tu-22M was the development of the idea of ​​Tu-22

            Nothing in common. Completely different cars.

            It's written, "idea development"(long-range supersonic bomber bomber) spent on the TU-22, and not the development of a specific aircraft (TU-22).
      4. ltc35
        ltc35 27 October 2019 19: 32
        +1
        Only this works for everyone simultaneously) The Chinese are a little late for the "trends". Everyone "borrows" from each other, so they are similar.
        1. Vita vko
          Vita vko 27 October 2019 20: 14
          0
          Quote: ltc35
          Chinese people are a little late for "trends"

          This Russia has an almost 100 year history of military-technological confrontation between the United States and the Anglo-Saxons. China has been able to join this process recently, but is already doing it successfully enough. Sin does not support.
          1. Zeev Zeev
            Zeev Zeev 28 October 2019 11: 23
            0
            Can you tell us more about the "confrontation"? You can start with the Liberty aircraft engine, continue with the Vickers tank, and end with the GL-2 radar. Or Rolls-Royce Derwent. Purely to understand the full depth of "confrontation".
      5. Timx
        Timx 28 October 2019 01: 15
        0
        Tu-22M and FB-111 are similar in appearance, oh?
    2. Errr
      Errr 27 October 2019 19: 21
      0
      the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit
      Only here on the "Chinese" I can not find the air intakes either from above or from the front. Did they place them at the bottom? It would be very rash.
  3. fruit_cake
    fruit_cake 27 October 2019 17: 19
    +2
    the Chinese seem to have finally scored on the development and decided only to copy
    1. Nikolay87
      Nikolay87 27 October 2019 17: 40
      -2
      Why reinvent the wheel? Is the Okhotnik UAV not a copy of an American bomber? A PAK YES not a copy of the above? A PAK FA ....
      This refers to visual similarities.
      1. fruit_cake
        fruit_cake 27 October 2019 18: 00
        -3
        and where does Russia? here they also copy if there is no possibility, copying means that you are always one step behind, maybe the scheme is also working, the Chinese know better
        1. Nikolay87
          Nikolay87 27 October 2019 18: 41
          +2
          Quote: fruit_cake
          and where does Russia? here they also copy if there is no possibility, copying means that you are always one step behind, maybe the scheme is also working, the Chinese know better

          You can’t draw an analogy or don’t understand what I wrote about?
          And what about Russia ?! And where does China?
          If you, during the performance of the technical task, came to the conclusion that this design will meet the best performance characteristics, will you refuse to produce it simply because another country already has the same equipment? winked
          Can we invent a square wheel ?! Although, perhaps, here they will accuse of copy-paste wassat
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            1. Nikolay87
              Nikolay87 27 October 2019 19: 47
              -4
              I don’t know what specifically the cheers-patriots are ready to admit, I know one thing, the cheers-patriotism interferes with critical thinking. However, like any other form of attachment.
            2. figwam
              figwam 27 October 2019 20: 00
              +2
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Ready to admit that their design school is better than ours?

              And what makes our school worse? An airplane in the form of a flying wing was made in the USSR almost 100 years ago, so who has spied on anyone, is another question.
              1. Arturov
                Arturov 27 October 2019 21: 23
                -9
                Quote: figvam
                And what makes our school worse? An airplane in the form of a flying wing was made in the USSR almost 100 years ago, so who has spied on anyone, is another question.

                it's just a laugh at the propaganda that has fed the third decade that stealth is unnecessary and everyone sees it ... and rolled out by those who have no analogs in the world su57 and project PAKDA, in fact a copy of the "backward" American aircraft ... of course conceptual, and not in terms of the quality of engines, weapons and electronics ...
      2. Voyager
        Voyager 27 October 2019 19: 07
        +2
        Is the Okhotnik UAV not a copy of an American bomber?

        Never
        A PAK FA ....

        And what about PAK FA? Like the F-22, you mean? Not simular.
        1. Nikolay87
          Nikolay87 27 October 2019 19: 26
          0
          oh come on you. I'm not talking about copying technology. I am not talking about mathematics, physics, and other exact sciences, which contradict yourself more. It doesn’t matter what it is, the best technical solution or just a trend, visually, same

          1. Timx
            Timx 27 October 2019 19: 38
            +1
            If you do not see the difference, this does not mean that it is not))
            1. Nikolay87
              Nikolay87 27 October 2019 20: 02
              -2
              Hunter, spirit or Chinese H-20 are made according to the "flying wing" scheme - this is a fundamental similarity, don't you agree? Everything else is technical solutions of engineers and designers.
              1. Timx
                Timx 27 October 2019 22: 58
                +1
                I know a hunter, I also saw Spirit, but what a mysterious H-20 will look like I don’t think even the Chinese themselves understand yet)))
                1. Timx
                  Timx 27 October 2019 23: 12
                  +1
                  Yes, and comparing a strategic bomber for 180 tons of weight with even a heavy one by classification, but in fact a 20-ton reconnaissance and maybe someday also an attack aircraft is not entirely correct, don't you think. And then why do you forget about domestic projects of the 20-30s, as well as Mikoyan's flying wing of the late 40s? Yes, there were many projects, not all of them even to the experts. But in reality, we have 15 Spirits in service, plus all kinds of drone projects from all over the world, where the Sukhoi S-70 `` Hunter '' does not claim to be original (the project is soon 30 years old, by the way).
                  1. Nikolay87
                    Nikolay87 28 October 2019 09: 46
                    -1
                    Initially, it was about visual "copying", "imitation". Why do you reduce the dispute to clarifying the performance characteristics and the tasks for which the aircraft is designed - it is not clear. The man said that the Chinese hammered on development and decided to copy, to which I objected to him and gave an example of a domestic UAV made according to the same aerodynamic scheme. The question is whether this is considered a copying of foreign technology. I said no. And what you say, I do not understand.
          2. figwam
            figwam 27 October 2019 19: 48
            +5
            visually the same thing

            Visually, people are one and the same, but in reality they are all different.
            1. Nikolay87
              Nikolay87 27 October 2019 20: 03
              -3
              Quote: figvam
              visually the same thing

              Visually, people are one and the same, but in reality they are all different.

              You will be surprised ....))))
      3. Ural-4320
        Ural-4320 27 October 2019 20: 17
        +3
        Here you will be "torn" with amazement, show you Gotha-229.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 27 October 2019 17: 57
      +4
      Quote: fruit_cake
      the Chinese seem to have finally scored on the development and decided only to copy

      Why make your way through the jungle if there is a beaten path ...
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        1. Timx
          Timx 27 October 2019 19: 43
          +4
          So almost everything in the world was invented before you - the great and powerful ukrov)))
    3. Vladimir_6
      Vladimir_6 27 October 2019 18: 01
      +3
      the Chinese seem to have finally scored on the development and decided only to copy

      Apparently they have no problem with feet and inches. In the USSR in 1945 when A. Tupolev copied the American B-29 it was a big problem. "In accordance with Stalin's instructions, no deviations in any detail from the American model were allowed.
      Because of this, the OKB strength specialists had to solve the "inverse" problem: according to the actual dimensions of the structure and the strength characteristics of materials, it is necessary to set requirements for the newly created alloys to metallurgists. In addition, the dimensions of all B-29 parts were in inches, and when converting to the metric system, they were rounded up to the standards adopted in this system. Subsequently, evil tongues joked that Tupolev received the title of Hero of Socialist Labor and the Stalin Prize for converting an inch thread to metric. "
      http://www.razlib.ru/transport_i_aviacija/aviacija_i_kosmonavtika_1996_06/p8.php
      1. Timx
        Timx 27 October 2019 19: 58
        +1
        What other developments of new materials are in the devastation of the 40s, but what about enterprises and institutes evacuated to the virgin lands) What else were there) There were people with a normal education who carried out the usual laboratory chemistry. analysis, identified chem. the composition of the alloys and the percentage of components is a common task for a course project for a 3-year student at any decent technical university, for materials of those years no more was required. How much can all kinds of fables be carried here.
        1. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 27 October 2019 20: 00
          0
          You read the article by reference
          1. Timx
            Timx 27 October 2019 20: 02
            +2
            So you can search for articles on Echo of Moscow ... What is the problem?
        2. Vladimir_6
          Vladimir_6 27 October 2019 21: 44
          +2
          Quote: TimX
          What other developments of new materials in the ruins of the 40s,

          On August 29, 1949, the first successful test of the first Soviet atomic bomb was made. This is also the 40th. According to your logic, it was collected on virgin soil in the barn.
          How much can all kinds of fables be carried here.

          What is the fiction? What did the American B-29 copy?
          "In 1945, the Tupolev Design Bureau was ordered to stop all its own development of long-range bombers and copy the B-29 as accurately as possible as soon as possible."
          "Tu-4 first took off from the ground on May 9, 1947,"
          From July 1945 to March 1946, the A. N. Tupolev Design Bureau made copies of the B-29 aircraft, the design of the B-4 analogue aircraft, and the preparation of technical documentation to ensure its mass production. [6]. The B-29 aircraft, created on the basis of the latest technology, was equipped with sophisticated and diverse equipment. It would not be possible to automatically copy it without a comprehensive analysis of structural and technological solutions, without a detailed study of all systems, without detailed strength calculations. In this regard, the development of working drawings was often more time-consuming than conventional design. [3]. [4] The design process was accompanied by a thorough analysis of the replicated design solutions implemented in the American B-29 aircraft and the full volume of design aerodynamic and strength calculations performed according to Soviet methods.
          Before getting clever, familiarize yourself with the topic.
          1. Timx
            Timx 27 October 2019 22: 11
            0
            A quote from your own article: `` Many of the used semi-finished products (sheets, plates, extruded and bent profiles, fasteners) ... have never been produced by the domestic metallurgical industry. '' And how do you think the synthesis of new miraculous materials under the strict guidance of Comrade Dzhugashvili helped the USSR to do without high-performance pressing and rolling equipment - in your article this is modestly left out of the brackets. I mean, it's time to approach such articles with a bit of healthy skepticism, and not flood the Internet with thoughtless reprints and copy-paste.
            PS
            And as to get clever, as Tupolev’s KB employees read material and material science to me)) 20 years ago, some of them still work (many years to them and thank you very much).
            And your chum, by the way, taught us a course in mechanics, was the head of the department and the author of a textbook, which has been training personnel for our industry and branch science for 15 years now.
            These are the pies, you know ...
            1. Vladimir_6
              Vladimir_6 27 October 2019 23: 32
              0
              The employees of KB Tupolev themselves read the material and material science to me)) 20 years ago, some of them still work (many years to them and thank you very much).

              You, Timur, can turn directly to the old-timers of the Tupolev Design Bureau, and they will tell you how "the synthesis of new miraculous materials took place under the strict guidance of Comrade Dzhugashvili." The main thing is that Tu-4 made its first flight on May 9, 1947.
              Therefore, in what fiction is not clear to me.
              For your track record, I am sincerely glad.
              1. Timx
                Timx 28 October 2019 00: 43
                0
                Thank you for the advice)) In turn, I can only suggest recalling the history of the Soviet atomic project (since you dragged it here) from sane sources (you can take corporate editions of Rosatom published for the 70th anniversary), and then maybe with you will be surprised to find that many key components and technologies were not even created in the virgin lands, but in the catacombs and caves near Sukhumi by the joint efforts of specialists exported from Germany and Soviet citizens assigned to the Germans initially to learn from (for example, in Abkhazia they fought for a long time and at first unsuccessfully over the creation of a workable bearing design of the first domestic centrifuges - a problem that the United States has been solving for 7 decades ...). And then, perhaps, you will understand that I had in mind a couple of posts back.
                1. Vladimir_6
                  Vladimir_6 28 October 2019 00: 54
                  0
                  Timur, what you told about the history of the Soviet atomic project, it certainly did not meet me anywhere. If you have a link to the material you can share. I am pleased to read it.
        3. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 27 October 2019 22: 58
          0
          Why fables? You read how the octane number of captured German fuel was recognized in the war. A man went to the front with a freshly made device with glass, and there he tested in practice, without any laboratory motors, a new research method for determining the octane number of gasoline. So in the labeling of gasoline and registered the letter "and" - research. AI-93.
  4. GibSoN
    GibSoN 27 October 2019 17: 25
    +1
    Quote: fruit_cake
    the Chinese seem to have finally scored on the development and decided only to copy

    In terms of?! Did they develop something? From what I know and can check, there is a 101% copy! At best, a hybrid copy. At what as a rule a curve.
    1. Timx
      Timx 27 October 2019 18: 06
      +2
      Well, the Chinese still have a chance to get ahead of everyone - to create an aircraft according to the `` flying wing '' scheme laughing , well, or `` flightless wing (falling) '' wassat
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    1. Operator
      Operator 27 October 2019 17: 43
      +1
      2,1 billion $ Christmas tree in meter / decameter range - not bad in Turkish laughing
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 27 October 2019 18: 02
      +1
      IAI-Azerbaijan, do you have exactly the same plane in the video and photo? recourse
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 27 October 2019 18: 04
      +3
      Quote: IAI-Azerbaijan
      "Not bad. But we are the owners of planet Earth!"

      This site is Russian-speaking, Mr. Yankes.
      1. IAI-Azerbaijan
        IAI-Azerbaijan 27 October 2019 18: 41
        -1
        Please excuse my English.
      2. Republican
        Republican 27 October 2019 18: 47
        -10
        What is this claim? How much do you take on sir? And you are sitting on the American Internet, on American software, your computer on an American processor !!! From the same section, Internet for English speakers? Intel processors can only use English? Or can Windows only be installed in English? Do not turn the VO site into an absurdity, there is already enough hatred for everything Western ...
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 27 October 2019 19: 16
          +3
          Quote: Republican
          What kind of complaint is this? How many sir do you take?

          These are not my inventions and claims. Read the site rules, point "e", "sir", and then resent how much I take on myself.
          f) With all due respect to other languages, the language of communication in the comments to the published articles is Russian.
        2. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 October 2019 20: 19
          +1
          Quote: Republican
          there is already enough hatred for everything western ...

          laughing laughing laughing Sadness
        3. Oyo Sarkazmi
          Oyo Sarkazmi 27 October 2019 21: 44
          +2
          Quote: Republican
          And you are sitting on the American Internet, on American software, your computer on an American processor !!!

          Gee. On the computer and the Internet, American - only processors. Memory - Taiwan, motherboards - China, software - Indians, Russians, Chinese, servers - China, Korea, optical cables between the continents - China and a little Portugal. Copper - Chilean, iron, which ferrum - Japanese, Russian, Chinese.
          Americans are only managers who know how to work. But without other countries, the USA is an agrarian colony of Britain.
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  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 17: 38
    0
    Photos showing tests of a model of an invisible bomber in a wind tunnel in China appeared on the web. On the leaked images on the Internet, it is noticeable that the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit and is also made according to the “flying wing” scheme.
    What is noticeable, it was he, Made in China read from the side.
  7. maden.usmanow
    maden.usmanow 27 October 2019 17: 38
    +1
    As soon as China creates its H-20, it will enter the elite club, which today consists of only two countries that have made such an industrial leap.


    Two countries? ...
    B2, and which bomber?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2019 18: 19
      -3
      Russia will have the same by 2026.
  8. Lapunevsky
    Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 18: 09
    -1
    Well, no modesty) Complicated amers externally B-2 and happy laughing
  9. Vadim T.
    Vadim T. 27 October 2019 18: 33
    +1
    The main problem for the Chinese is the engines. If they solve it, then they will do the rest. And it’s not so important whether they themselves come up with or steal from someone. It is important how they take advantage of this. The monkey is also able to steal a grenade, and so what? Therefore, the final result is important. When it will be, it is not yet clear. But now it’s clear that the Chinese will not stop at nothing to achieve it.
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  11. Klingon
    Klingon 27 October 2019 18: 59
    +1
    Quote: Vadim T.
    The main problem for the Chinese is the engines. If they solve it, then they will do the rest. And it’s not so important whether they themselves come up with or steal from someone. It is important how they take advantage of this. The monkey is also able to steal a grenade, and so what? Therefore, the final result is important. When it will be, it is not yet clear. But now it’s clear that the Chinese will not stop at nothing to achieve it.

    the Chinese have always faced the problem of edge-getting alloys metalworking and metal science in general. this is plus what you wrote about.
    as the saying goes, both chimpanzees and humans can stick sticks. only different results are obtained))
  12. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 27 October 2019 19: 13
    -1
    Americans still set the trend for the appearance of the glider. Like the Chinese because they are not afraid to rip off useful ideas without looking at patents and other nonsense.
    1. Timx
      Timx 27 October 2019 20: 20
      +1
      In fact, it was the Americans who ripped off the `` glider appearance '' of the Reich planes and, in particular, Horton's projects, and the Chinese know this very well, so perhaps only the Germans can make some claims ...
  13. Armata T-14
    Armata T-14 27 October 2019 19: 16
    +9
    Yes, there is no invisibility, you got your stamps)) Just the detection distance is slightly less than without stealth, and that's it. A nice addition and nothing more
  14. ZVS
    ZVS 27 October 2019 20: 12
    0
    Someone doubted that China would again present its absolute clone of the American aerodynamic form. Copy of B-21.
    1. Ural-4320
      Ural-4320 27 October 2019 20: 25
      0
      Oh, come on. It's like a math textbook with answers at the end. You cannot solve, you climb into the answers, and then you try to "pull" your solution onto the finished result.
      So here: the B-2 flies successfully, which means that the appearance can already be licked off, on which you will get savings during development. Well, if the rest of the head "cooks".
      - Here we have a sample, it remains to make it work.
      - This is impossible, there are no such technologies.
      - Tony Stark created it as a prisoner from scrap metal !!!
      “Yes, but I'm not Tony Stark.”
      1. Timx
        Timx 27 October 2019 22: 40
        0
        In life, everything is a little more complicated than in Hollywood)))
        1. Ural-4320
          Ural-4320 27 October 2019 22: 53
          0
          If you can cut an inch airplane and transfer it to the metric system under your own base in the 40s, then why can’t you develop your own approach to aircraft based on a flying specimen? If you have the head and resources - you can. Let it not be invisible at the initial stage, but it will be a flying wing with normal bomb loading and flight data.
          1. Timx
            Timx 28 October 2019 01: 02
            0
            Probably, because usually planes, like any other transport systems, design starting from the selection of a power plant, and not writing it at the last stage, which, unfortunately, is happening everywhere in our country now.
      2. ZVS
        ZVS 28 October 2019 14: 47
        0
        Where did you see a copy of B-2? This is a copy of the developed B-21.
        Well, as for B-2, it does not fly, but flies up. The problem plane turned out to be. The old junk B-52 flies.
  15. evgen1221
    evgen1221 27 October 2019 20: 16
    0
    Here is something that tells me that the Chinese will deal with it faster than we from the pack.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2019 20: 41
      0
      They will wait until we do our PAK YES, and then they will copy it and buy the engines from us - why hunchback, spend time and a lot of money on R&D, when the neighbor does everything.
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 27 October 2019 21: 50
    -1
    Guys, I apologize to everyone whom I offended, I accidentally got to the page of the chela who writes 2712019 on my behalf, I stop broadcasting on my behalf
  17. hwostatij
    hwostatij 27 October 2019 22: 29
    0
    Is direct supersonic + stealth in one bomb? Yes, and Chinese ... Well, well ...
  18. yehat
    yehat 28 October 2019 11: 08
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    Quote: Hog
    Tu-22M was the development of the idea of ​​Tu-22 and common with the F-111 except that the variable sweep of the wing.

    these aircraft are fundamentally different in purpose. f-111B is designed to break through the air defense zone, and the Tu-22 is not for this.
  19. mvmptzna
    mvmptzna 28 October 2019 11: 57
    +2
    On the leaked images on the Internet, it is noticeable that the tested model is similar to the American stealth bomber B-2 Spirit



    Yeah, and then the news comes out on the MO with the authoritative opinion of the Chinese comrades about worthless American technology.