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Chinese pilot commented on the features of the J-20 fighter

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On Chinese television, an interview with the pilot of the latest Chinese fighter J-20. We are talking about a military pilot Li Gang, who was the first to pilot a fifth-generation fighter (according to Chinese classification - fourth) in the PLA Air Force.




Li Gan noted that he was proud of the status of the first Chinese pilot to fly the latest combat vehicle adopted by the country's air force. He talked about the features of J-20.

According to the pilot, the fighter is substantially modified in comparison with the prototype, which first flew into the sky a few years ago. Li Gan says that “the fighter’s maneuverability is developed, flight and weapon control parameters are improved.” The pilot noted that the most difficult thing for him is piloting the J-20 in a group, when, for example, preparations are under way for participation in a military parade. According to the military pilot, one often has to maneuver in order to prevent collisions with birds, which are very numerous in the sky over cities.

The Chinese officer considers the fighter unpretentiousness to the advantages of J-20. According to him, the new-generation Chinese fighter does not need to be kept in special tanks with constant temperature and humidity, as, for example, the American F-22.

From the interview:

The significance of this in a real battle is very important: if your stealth fighter every time needs a long-term specialized service before each operation, including the restoration of stealth coverage, then the speed of such an operation and its effectiveness may be low. Our aerodrome technical staff prepares J-20 fighters in a short time. The J-20 stealth coating does not require special containment conditions.

In addition, the Chinese pilot noted the "high-quality aerodynamic layout" of the fighter.

Recall that in the world so far only three countries are creating their own 5 generation fighters: the USA, China and Russia. At the same time, the fifth generation fighters are armed with the Air Force only in China and the United States.
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  1. nPuBaTuP
    nPuBaTuP 27 October 2019 14: 53
    +15
    Maneuvering so as not to collide with a bird ... Did he fly on Po2?
    1. afrikanez
      afrikanez 27 October 2019 15: 19
      +13
      it’s even interesting what maneuvers he undertook at the same time, so that there would be no collision ??? Aerobatics is resting ??? lol
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 27 October 2019 17: 05
        0
        Apparently a sharp turn helped him ... laughing
      2. Shurik70
        Shurik70 27 October 2019 17: 08
        +8
        A flock of birds - yes, you can notice in advance and fly around.
        A single bird, and even actively maneuvering - you’ll get the hell out of it. She, like children on a bicycle, suddenly rushes across the car.
        https://www.facebook.com/PotapOffShow/videos/429499891101283/
      3. Zhan
        Zhan 27 October 2019 20: 51
        0
        Quote: afrikanez
        it’s even interesting what maneuvers he undertook at the same time, so that there would be no collision ??? Aerobatics is resting ??? lol

        Probably took possession of a police U-turn in the air ... laughing
    2. zenion
      zenion 27 October 2019 21: 37
      0
      The only thing that is not clear is that the plane was copied from the children's Pioneer bicycle, so it is not afraid of birds and even mice.
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 27 October 2019 14: 54
    +10
    About the unpretentiousness of the coating is an interesting fact, if true, of course ...
    often have to maneuver to prevent collisions with birds, which are very many in the sky over cities.
    The question is - how can a pilot manage to react to a possible collision with a bird, even at extremely low speeds?
  3. WILL
    WILL 27 October 2019 14: 55
    +7
    It seems like Li Gan’s name - but one solid DOG ... he knows everything straight about the strengths and weaknesses of F 22 .... and at the same time - the rest of the Five generation fighters ... Which - this Chinese wunderwafer, doesn’t! laughing
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2019 14: 59
      -2
      Just an ugly hybridizaur from a Chinese copy machine.
      1. Cut Samshitov
        Cut Samshitov 27 October 2019 15: 55
        +6
        Just an ugly hybridizaur from a Chinese copy machine.
        The Chinese are still storytellers, it is enough to recall the schemes and drawings of missile weapons from the "ancient Chinese manuscripts" where it is immediately obvious that the "rocket launcher" will only kill the operator and closest assistants. On the other hand, would an active military man say about the weapons of his country that the weapons are bad and worthless?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 27 October 2019 18: 29
          0
          For this reason, they began drilling the first wells of 5 meters deep with the help of bamboo sticks in the 250th century.
    2. Cut Samshitov
      Cut Samshitov 27 October 2019 15: 08
      +3
      And what will we, comrades, say Comrade Lee Xi Tsyn?
      1. Zhan
        Zhan 27 October 2019 20: 54
        +3
        Quote: Cut Samshitov
        And what will we, comrades, say Comrade Lee Xi Tsyn?

        hi
        I don’t know what Tsyn will say there. I know that Comrade KAC offers to surrender .. lol
  4. Lapunevsky
    Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 15: 01
    +2
    That moment when you look at the Chinese and do not admire them, but laugh at them. For this wretched flying massive-long trough can by no means be called a maneuverable stealth fighter. It reminds me of our Rostov shawarma from Tajiks.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 27 October 2019 15: 19
      0
      It depends on what angles to take pictures.
      You can make it look ugly, but you can vice versa.
      As with photos of people. smile
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 27 October 2019 15: 38
        +21
        Still an ugly machine. Here is a handsome man, and at any angle. hi
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 October 2019 15: 42
          -2
          I would not publish this angle.
          Because it demonstrates one of the shortcomings of this aircraft: completely open engines that give strong IR illumination.
          Engines are now customarily covered with panels.
          1. Voyager
            Voyager 27 October 2019 15: 47
            +4
            Be that as it may, but the Su-27, F-15 and F-14 were still and will be the most beautiful fighters))
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 27 October 2019 15: 57
              0
              Every man to his own taste.
              I consider these the most beautiful fellow :
              1. Pike
                Pike 27 October 2019 17: 52
                +5
                And this biplane cannot be super-maneuverable, it will unfold around the telegraph pole)
              2. Andrey NM
                Andrey NM 27 October 2019 20: 17
                0
                And by the way, there is no IR illumination, and radar visibility is minimal. And if you fly between trees and houses, so to speak, with an envelope ... But this is so, jokes. For its time, Nieuport is a good fighting vehicle. Eleventh, it seems ...
            2. Lapunevsky
              Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 17: 59
              +3
              More MiG-25 beautiful)
              1. Voyager
                Voyager 27 October 2019 18: 15
                +1
                Yes, you can’t argue here)
              2. Nuclear_winter
                Nuclear_winter 28 October 2019 18: 13
                0
                And what kind of plane we have is not beautiful, all handsome smile
            3. Thompson
              Thompson 3 November 2019 11: 38
              0
              I never liked the F-15 /. Only from one angle
          2. Prisoner
            Prisoner 27 October 2019 16: 09
            +2
            They’ll cover it. They will put full-time engines, they will do it right. You just look at the airplane. Handsome man!
            1. Lbt21
              Lbt21 27 October 2019 19: 15
              +1
              Here they’ll cover, deliver the engines, start up the series - then we'll talk !!!
              1. Prisoner
                Prisoner 27 October 2019 19: 20
                +2
                With you, we may well "talk" with the available devices. Don't wake up dashing while it is quiet. laughing
          3. bar
            bar 27 October 2019 16: 39
            +2
            Engines are now customarily covered with panels.

            Well, here you have to choose, smart or beautiful. Either invisibility or over-maneuverability.
          4. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 27 October 2019 18: 53
            +2
            I think those who designed this aircraft know this. If they did so, then that makes sense.
          5. YakimovSS
            YakimovSS 28 October 2019 10: 43
            0
            From this angle, the work of rotary nozzles and the excellent aerodynamic study of the cockpit space are clearly visible.
            Not every aircraft in battle will be able to see this aircraft from this angle to take advantage of increased IR illumination.
        2. Crash
          Crash 27 October 2019 16: 39
          0
          The taste and color markers are different. Beauty is purely subjective.
        3. missuris
          missuris 27 October 2019 18: 34
          +1
          Nah, as for me, duck fighters look better, and some F-22s and Su-57s are flattened, it's design
          1. Vlad.by
            Vlad.by 28 October 2019 12: 55
            0
            Here above, some wrote about a mirror with a flashlight)))
        4. Nuclear_winter
          Nuclear_winter 28 October 2019 17: 57
          0
          Why are the engines not covered? Will be modified in the future, or a design feature?
      2. Lapunevsky
        Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 15: 48
        +7
        What is beautiful and ultra-modern about it? Duck pattern? Even it turned out to be awkward, the fuselage is long and more suitable for a bomber, and the pre-cockpit space is poorly small. All of this carcass needed lower vertical stabilizers to give it stability in flight. Huge influxes in front of the vertical tail of the rudders are simply wild, and also indicate an attempt to give the elephant the opportunity not to prowl on the course. In general, the number of protruding parts on the "stealth" body is off the charts. This flying Panama cannot be compared in terms of maneuverability to the Su-57 and F-22. And engines with a conventional nozzle also do not make it invisible.
      3. EvilLion
        EvilLion 28 October 2019 08: 43
        0
        80s. In 2k19, planes will be made according to the "canard" scheme.
    2. Kettle
      Kettle 27 October 2019 17: 13
      +4
      A well-known expression is not always right; ugly airplanes also have a chance of success.

      For example, this "freak" from the late 50s has become an extremely successful fighter, both in combat and in the commercial sense. The series is more than 5 pieces. A bunch of flight records.
      Until now (!) In service with the countries that are not the most backward in aviation terms - Turkey, South Korea, Japan. Maybe in Israel somewhere a couple of dozen are hidden, just in case ..

      And high maneuverability and stealth - with each other "at knives".
      Probably, the Chinese believe: let the J-20 ESR be several times (maybe an order of magnitude) worse than that of the F-22 or Su-57, but a couple of orders of magnitude better than their existing fighters. Detection range 3-4 times less, other things being equal.
      J-20 - seems to be a more flying poorly visible platform for launching rockets and UAB.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 October 2019 18: 40
        +1
        These freaks F 4 - MiGs 21st in Vietnam made with a score of 54: 103, and the total loss of F 4 for the entire war amounted to 900 units.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 27 October 2019 19: 19
          -3
          Phantoms were used in Vietnam as bombers / attack aircraft. Because of their huge payload. With a load of bombs, they were defenseless against any fighter.
          And the light F-5s did not guard them.
          The failure of the tactics for which they paid.
          1. Butchcassidy
            Butchcassidy 27 October 2019 23: 08
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Phantoms were used in Vietnam as bombers / attack aircraft. Because of their huge payload. With a load of bombs, they were defenseless against any fighter.
            And the light F-5s did not guard them.
            The failure of the tactics for which they paid.

            It seems to me that this is not a matter of tactics. If the comrades from the Washington Regional Committee, even having lost 900 aircraft, did not understand that they were doing something wrong, then Zadornov was right, or it was not a matter of tactics, but something else.
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 27 October 2019 18: 56
        +1
        One can argue about the extremely successful. On sales, yes - the mattress covers have thrown them in to everyone who could pay. About fighting it is better to ask the Vietnamese.
  5. av58
    av58 27 October 2019 15: 05
    +4
    If a Chinese pilot speaks openly about the "unpretentiousness" of the new, still secret aircraft, and the absence of the need to keep it in a heated hangar, I would assume that the situation is the opposite, and the Chinese aircraft is not at all that good in maintenance.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 27 October 2019 15: 17
      +3
      I noticed this too, Andrey. Maybe the climatic conditions of China allow you to keep the plane in the open air ... But from the experience of the USSR and the USA, this coating does not withstand more than two dozen flights. And if the flights are in supersonic mode, then no more than a dozen. Or did the Chinese invent something new, although I doubt it ?! hi
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 27 October 2019 15: 30
        -4
        On F-22 there are problems with the dependence of the coating on temperature extremes.
        Lesson learned.
        On the F-35, coverage is different and there is no such problem.
        But with strong vibrations in the bends at the joints of the fuselage and wings, cracks appear in the coating. We have to lubricate between flights.
        When Russia starts coating their stealth, this experience will come in handy.
        1. bar
          bar 27 October 2019 15: 41
          +1
          On the F-35, coverage is different and there is no such problem.

          Coverage may be different, but the problems are the same. Climbing fast, can not be kept in the sun, only in the hangar. Photos were already shabby F-35. Even here they wrote
          https://topwar.ru/157323-f-35-okazalis-prikovany-k-zemle-iz-za-nehvatki-zapchastej.html
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 27 October 2019 15: 49
            -6
            The article is not about that actually. Most aircraft of early releases are awaiting software checks after upgrades. Bureaucratic safety procedure.
            But - you are right - in any stealth coverage problems are inevitable during operation. Temperature differences, vibrations.
            Any country that is engaged in the 5th generation will face this.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 27 October 2019 18: 42
              -2
              There is material that can adapt to the radiation and absorb it - created it two years ago.
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 27 October 2019 16: 22
          +2
          So that's the point, Voyaka (for temperature differences).
          It cannot be different, because You yourself write about cracks in the coating - this is a special paint and varnish product (it contains metal "shavings", which reflects the radar radiation in different directions). Think about what else can form these "cracks"?
          The USSR was tested on the MiG-29 in the Soviet Union. Comments were made just on these parameters (weight gain, time for removing and applying a new coating when it "flies off", the complexity of application in a certain way, service life, etc.). This coating was invented in the Soviet Union, and after the collapse "leaked" (at least, this is my conclusion). And I believe there is a similar coverage on the Su-57. Therefore, various officials have declared themselves, as it has stealth coverage. hi
          The difference in the coating can be in the varnishes themselves or in "shavings" (aluminum, titanium, etc .; and their sizes) - these are the smallest metal. plates (as it is now customary to say nano-technologies; flat form, of a certain shape, in the union they were rectangular).
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 27 October 2019 17: 46
            -9
            Stealth coatings are constantly being improved. Not just metal balls or rhombuses will be added to the mixture, but microchips, sensors. This is not some kind of fashion, but a long-term process of combating radio exposure. Materials can always be improved, made tensile, rubber-like.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 27 October 2019 17: 51
              0
              Alexey, and how much will such a coating with sensors, chips, etc. cost? That's what I wanted to note. With a "series" it will cost prohibitive. hi
              1. Lapunevsky
                Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 18: 07
                0
                And it all boils down to the fact that by the 2050 year the largest economies will have on duty only 10-20 super expensive and ultra-modern stealth fighters - bombers and a whole crowd of all sorts of drones, and a couple of hundreds of fighters easier than previous generations will be in storage, just in case case of type ..
              2. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 27 October 2019 18: 09
                -6
                Very expensive. But it provides the aircraft with combat effectiveness. Already now avionics, software, power cables reach 50% of the cost of the aircraft. To all this, smart coverage is a small appendage.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 27 October 2019 18: 44
                  0
                  In general, 60% of the cost of a fighter is the price of engines.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 27 October 2019 19: 23
                    -6
                    The F-35 engine costs 14-19 million.
                    The plane itself is 85-110 million.
                    ("B" - more expensive)
                    About 20%.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 27 October 2019 20: 32
                      0
                      We have an engine for Drying worth more than 500 million rubles. And NK 32 2 for Tu 160 - 1,5 billion rubles.
                      1. EvilLion
                        EvilLion 28 October 2019 08: 53
                        +1
                        And the whole Su-34 costs 1 billion rubles. It turns out everything is free.
                      2. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 28 October 2019 10: 50
                        0
                        Actually, it costs 1800 million rubles.
                2. vadson
                  vadson 28 October 2019 14: 58
                  0
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Very expensive. But it provides the aircraft with combat effectiveness

                  in the meter range, any stealth will still be visible. that is, let there be a problem with the accuracy of aiming ammunition on stealth over a long distance. but the air defense calculation will know where the adversary is located.
                3. Kasym
                  Kasym 28 October 2019 15: 23
                  +1
                  You can't be so stupid, Wayaka
        3. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 27 October 2019 16: 51
          -1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          When Russia starts coating their stealth, this experience will come in handy.

          Oh, I would tell you how stealth is applied in Russia. Like scotch tape! Glued ...
          The film is elastic. Does not give cracks. tongue
        4. bk0010
          bk0010 27 October 2019 17: 46
          0
          Ferrite coating was still applied on the Tu-16, sort of.
  6. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 October 2019 15: 07
    -3
    It looks like chasing. Our planes are the most aircraft in the world, do not care about the lack of a flight school))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2019 15: 14
      -1
      For one do not care about the lack of their engines, with a resource of more than 500 hours. The party will say that it will take off without engines, knock down all the birds and tear the adversary apart.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 17: 21
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        For one do not care about the lack of their engines, with a resource of more than 500 hours. The party will say that it will take off without engines, knock down all the birds and tear the adversary apart.

        Only opium in the engine will throw, and take off .....
    2. dauria
      dauria 27 October 2019 15: 52
      +2
      do not care about the lack of flight school


      They have aces from the Korean War. Like the USSR. Further only the United States, Vietnamese, Argentines with the British, Jews and a bit Egypt, Syrians, Iran, Iraq.
      The Chinese did not seem to be behind the rest. On the contrary - the decks are being prepared. Only the USA is ahead of them. The latest tactics of air combat of the Jewish development. Yes, and then outdated.

      In fact, a rather strange arrogance, given the amount of Chinese equipment in the apartment of every Russian and not Russian ..
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 27 October 2019 16: 17
        0
        Quote: dauria
        They have aces from the Korean War.

        They’ve been retired for a long time. Yes, and air battle tactics have long been different
        1. dauria
          dauria 27 October 2019 16: 22
          -2
          They’ve been retired for a long time. Yes, and air battle tactics have long been different


          So, from the time of Pokryshkin and Pepelyaev, we have no experience other than someone else’s.
      2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 27 October 2019 16: 59
        +1
        In fact, a rather strange arrogance, given the amount of Chinese equipment in the apartment of every Russian and not Russian ..

        Do you compare household appliances and military? Do you want to say that to design and manufacture a smartphone is the same as a jet engine or radar?
        1. dauria
          dauria 27 October 2019 17: 07
          +4
          the same as a jet engine or radar?


          Yes .. Same thing. First, a base is created - economics, education, science. Then kefir, a screw and a nuclear reactor are made. The base of the USSR collapsed, we eat up the rest, the Chinese, on the contrary, created the world's first economy. So for the radar, engines and smartphones we will soon go to them, selling gas, oil and firewood. However, we are already driving, and not only we.
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 27 October 2019 17: 09
            -1
            Clear. #Soon
        2. Lbt21
          Lbt21 27 October 2019 19: 22
          +2
          But we can’t do it either!
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 October 2019 07: 28
            0
            Now is the time to change tires for winter. Anyone who comes to the tire fitting to change the wheels, do it yourself well by no means?
        3. mikle1999
          mikle1999 28 October 2019 01: 53
          0
          Much more difficult. And much more expensive.

          +++++ Want to say that designing and making a smartphone is the same as a jet engine or radar?
      3. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 17: 15
        +1
        Quote: dauria


        They have aces from the Korean War. Like the USSR. Further only the United States, Vietnamese, Argentines with the British, Jews and a bit Egypt, Syrians, Iran, Iraq.Actually pretty weird arrogance given the amount of Chinese technology in the apartment of each Russian and not Russian ..

        Actually pretty weird arrogance if only one can suppose complete non-knowledge of the issue, hello from WIKI:
        In the sky of North Vietnam, Soviet pilots fought an equal-sized enemy, and very successfully. Of course, the participation of the Soviet military in air battles with the Americans was carried out behind the scenes, since they were sent to the Vietnam People’s Army as instructors and advisers, and they were expressly forbidden to fly missions.
        1. dauria
          dauria 27 October 2019 17: 41
          -5
          Maybe enough fairy tales? I understand, about 30 years ago, "pilots from Vietnam" with drunken grubs met in pubs. But now everything is sorted out on the shelves.

          In September 1972, there was the only air battle in which the Soviet pilot operated from the Vietnamese side. On a two-seat training aircraft MiG-21US, which had no weapons, a Vietnamese fighter pilot and a Soviet instructor practiced piloting technique. As a result, the MiG was shot down by a missile from the F-4, the crew ejected. http://www.airwar.ru/history/locwar/vietnam/mig21/mig21.html
          1. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 18: 25
            -1
            I understand that the truth demons mangle, but .... read ...
            why exactly the MiG-21, the Soviet pilots who earned the playfully respectful nickname "Balalaika", and in the US troops and the NATO bloc - "flying Kalashnikov", became the most massive supersonic aircraft in the world. Even at first glance, there is nothing superfluous, nothing accidental, nothing complicated or illogical - it is as simple and perfect in appearance as the Soviet AK. And with a closer acquaintance, you also understand how these two symbols of the military power of the USSR — the MiG-21 and the AK — are similar in simplicity and efficiency of use.
            https://lsvsx.livejournal.com/767995.html
            Of course, Soviet pilots in the sky of Vietnam were not reported anywhere. According to official Vietnamese data, two F-105s were shot down by Vietnamese pilots Pham Guyai, Le Min Huang, Chan Nguyen Nam and Chan Han on that day. The American side confirms the data of the Vietnamese, saying that on April 4 they lost three F-105s, two of which were shot down in air battles by North Vietnamese pilots, and one - by anti-aircraft fire. The attribution of Soviet air victories to the Vietnamese pilots was also of another, more practical significance - this was necessary to raise the fighting spirit of the soldiers of the Vietnamese People’s Army so that they believed in themselves and were able to give a worthy rebuff to the enemy.

            In the sky of North Vietnam, Soviet pilots fought an equal-sized enemy, and very successfully. Of course, the participation of the Soviet military in air battles with the Americans was carried out behind the scenes, since they were sent to the Vietnam People’s Army as instructors and advisers, and they were expressly forbidden to fly missions
      4. EvilLion
        EvilLion 28 October 2019 08: 54
        0
        The ability to make electric kettles does not help create the Air Force. It’s time to understand this already.
  7. Ravil_Asnafovich
    Ravil_Asnafovich 27 October 2019 15: 09
    -3
    Hmm, every sandpiper praises his swamp.
  8. Nycomed
    Nycomed 27 October 2019 15: 19
    -2
    You won’t praise yourself ... what
  9. SovietUnit
    SovietUnit 27 October 2019 15: 20
    -7
    Well done Chinese! Not that local aborigines on VO who can only scribble their useless comments.
    1. JD1979
      JD1979 27 October 2019 15: 27
      +4
      Quote: SovietUnit
      Well done Chinese! Not that local aborigines on VO who can only scribble their useless comments.

      I completely agree with you)) I just read the absolutely useless comment of the local aborigine just above.
      1. Lapunevsky
        Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 15: 53
        0
        I, too, with this comment now respond to the useless comment of the local aborigine. Their darkness divorced simply.
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 16: 57
        0
        Quote: JD1979
        Quote: SovietUnit
        Well done Chinese! Not that local aborigines on VO who can only scribble their useless comments.

        I completely agree with you)) I just read the absolutely useless comment of the local aborigine just above.

        If you are not local, then you are joking here, verbiage, tell you the direction, the Schaub did not disappear in the darkness? feel
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 16: 54
      0
      Quote: SovietUnit
      Well done Chinese! Not that local aborigines on VO who can only scribble their useless comments.

      One Papuan climbed down from a tree and planed a stick, another Papuan saliva and experienced an orgasm. So this is their brawl, probably working out a visa. request
      Local Aboriginal. feel
    3. Oyo Sarkazmi
      Oyo Sarkazmi 27 October 2019 20: 21
      0
      Quote: SovietUnit
      IN, which can only scribble their useless comments.

      Pichalka, but the Chinese on VO (FB, IG, VK, OK) scribbling comments is prohibited. laughing
  10. knn54
    knn54 27 October 2019 15: 22
    +1
    I remembered something "Love and Doves" - and I will dream the same ...
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  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 27 October 2019 15: 37
    +1
    It remains only to look at these vaunted fighters on the radars of our aircraft. I really want to. Did the Chinese defeat physics? That is, they came up with their own laws?
  13. Operator
    Operator 27 October 2019 15: 50
    +7
    J-20 is not a stealth aircraft due to the presence of the front tail, its EPR is several times higher than that of the F-22, F-35 and Su-57.

    In addition, the specific thrust of the engines available in China does not yet allow for after-flight supersonic flight, so the J-20 also cannot be attributed to the 5 generation of fighters.

    Therefore, there was nothing left for Li Gang in the interview, how to share the experience of scaring jackdaws over Beijing laughing
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 27 October 2019 16: 19
      -1
      Quote: Operator
      J-20 also can not be attributed to the 5th generation of fighters

      And according to the Chinese classification, he is 4
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 27 October 2019 20: 23
        0
        Do not have time to copy the MiG-15. One generation has fallen away.
  14. Operator
    Operator 27 October 2019 16: 26
    +4
    Quote: Pilat2009
    in Chinese

    I'm talking about European-American-Russian.
    1. Pilat2009
      Pilat2009 27 October 2019 16: 31
      -2
      Well, if you yourself call it fifth, then what is required of the Chinese?
      If the aircraft does not correspond to the fifth generation TTX?
      1. Operator
        Operator 27 October 2019 16: 35
        +2
        The Chinese have their own classification of generations of fighters (as explicitly stated in the article), 4 corresponds to our 5.

        I wrote that it is impossible to attribute J-20 to our 5.
  15. VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour 27 October 2019 16: 34
    -1
    20 is not a stealth aircraft due to the presence of the front tail, its EPR is several times higher than that of the F-22, F-35 and Su-57. tt

    I completely agree ...- Only the presence of the Central and rear plumage
    may indicate belonging to the 5th generation ...
    In addition, the specific thrust of the engines available in China does not yet allow for after-flight supersonic flight, so the J-20 also cannot be attributed to the 5 generation of fighters.

    It is equally true for SU 57 without engines of the second stage ...
    In addition, in Drying, emphasis is on maneuverability, and not stealth ...
  16. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 16: 48
    +1
    We are talking about a military pilot Li Gang, who was the first to pilot a fifth-generation fighter (according to Chinese classification - fourth) in the PLA Air Force.
    Who writes about whom? Why do we need a Chinese classification? There is a level of the USA, the Russian Federation and let’s stay within the framework, tomorrow India will declare that it has level 10 and that we will be relearned? Translated, decrypted and thanks.
  17. 123456789
    123456789 27 October 2019 16: 57
    0
    Chinese pilot commented on the features of the J-20 fighter

    And you say! Who's stopping you?
    Joke.
  18. cniza
    cniza 27 October 2019 17: 12
    0
    According to the military pilot, one often has to maneuver in order to prevent collisions with birds, which are very numerous in the sky over cities.


    Experts say this is true or is it a little ....
  19. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 17: 42
    0
    The pilot noted that the most difficult thing for him is piloting the J-20 in a group, when, for example, preparations are made for participation in a military parade. According to the military pilot, one often has to maneuver in order to prevent collisions with birds, which are very numerous in the sky over cities.
    Well, the experience of the extermination of sparrows was lost .....
  20. jovanni
    jovanni 27 October 2019 18: 22
    0
    Happy country! The main problem of the Chinese aircraft industry, birds ...
  21. missuris
    missuris 27 October 2019 18: 28
    0
    CCCP forgot, they made prototypes of 2 different projects of 5 generations in the 80s
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 21: 50
      0
      Quote: missuris
      CCCP forgot, they made prototypes of 2 different projects of 5 generations in the 80s

      Pound, pound, maybe let go. feel
  22. Berkut24
    Berkut24 27 October 2019 18: 59
    +3
    It’s not entirely clear how we should react or discuss propaganda on Chinese TV? What else could this pilot say by decision of the Party and Government?
  23. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 27 October 2019 19: 02
    0
    Maneuver in a group so as not to run into birds. Offset.
  24. Armata T-14
    Armata T-14 27 October 2019 19: 20
    +9
    It doesn’t look very good. So far, Chinese aviation is far from even American, not to mention Russian
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 October 2019 20: 35
      0
      You wanted to say up to French aviation.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 27 October 2019 21: 58
      +2
      Quote: Armata T-14
      It doesn’t look very good. So far, Chinese aviation is far from even American, not to mention Russian

      Give it up. "Another 7847 buckets and our golden key!" for the great Mao ordered so. feel Although perhaps he meant otherwise. So the dog has forgotten the stick, considers himself the chief.
      For Mao may be great, but we have other helmsmen and no worse. feel
    3. Pereturbatsiya1
      Pereturbatsiya1 29 October 2019 01: 06
      0
      Well, well then.
      Only here the Su-57 (unlike the J-20) except in parades and flies only.
      Yes, it serves as a theme for a puffed military wad and a military fervor.
      It remains to clarify how much foreign electronics there is, including and Chinese.
      Don’t you think that everything is MADE?
      1. Medved privet
        Medved privet 29 October 2019 09: 46
        0
        Well, how many and which ones, with tariffs, is it desirable?
  25. yehat
    yehat 28 October 2019 11: 37
    0
    According to him, the new-generation Chinese fighter does not need to be kept in special tanks with constant temperature and humidity, as, for example, the American F-22.

    why then did China build just such hangars for the j-20 regiment?
  26. silver_roman
    silver_roman 28 October 2019 23: 26
    0
    I highly doubt the capabilities of this aircraft. China has not yet made a single normal truly unique aircraft that would surpass analogues. I am already silent about engines, avionics, about which nothing is known and which, in principle, has nowhere to come from. so what then is it all about? about chopped glider? Iran even has one.
  27. Pereturbatsiya1
    Pereturbatsiya1 29 October 2019 01: 09
    0
    The comments are, of course, venomous and envious. Some Chinese have already produced a fifth-generation aircraft and are flying to the regiment, while in Russia only a few "bogeymen" are shown at parades.
    Yes, they breed bratty bravado about the coolest aircraft school in the world.
    Blessed is he who believes ....
  28. Vlasik
    Vlasik 29 October 2019 08: 26
    0
    Chinese air kung fu, it’s interesting to see how he would dodge a flock of birds))
  29. lukewarm
    lukewarm 29 October 2019 09: 36
    0
    In aviation, I am an amateur, one might say, for stealth technology - for sure. But for some reason, no one except the Chinese applies the "canard" scheme with PGO on stealth? And in general, all these EPR in fractions of meters in advertising is IMHO minimal. With irradiation "in the nose". And stealth, as well as engines giving non-afterburning supersonic, is one of the important criteria of the fifth generation. With engines from the Chinese, in my opinion, at least not better than ours. And what is their fifth generation? But they put it into service - well done. Is it really better than the copied Su-27?
  30. Medved privet
    Medved privet 29 October 2019 09: 45
    +1
    Fifth generation fighter with al-31 engine, well