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Russians shown in the new Call of Duty an absolute evil

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The long-awaited new first-person shooter Call of Duty: Modern Warfare of the 2019 version of the year is on sale for only a few days, but has already caused a storm of indignation in the community of Russian-speaking gamers and negative reviews in the media. The reason is the monstrous propaganda image of the Russians.




Players - the public is traditionally and strongly politically neutral. And the “bad Russians” in computer games, the characters are already quite familiar. However, what was shown in the plot campaign Modern Warfare, surpassed everything that flashed earlier. Moreover, not only in the Call of Duty series, but also in the gaming industry in general.



Instead of the "ambiguity" and "gray morality" of the war promised by the developers, the most recent Activision product accents are clearly laid out. The Russians, who are called “Barkov’s people” in censored Russian dubbing, are shown to players from all over the world as absolute evil, real cannibals, for whom they don’t choose methods, but история revolves around a fictional Middle Eastern country in which, however, Syria is unmistakably guessed.

The Americans, the British, and the Arab militants collaborating with them, massively killing Russians, on the contrary, are exposed as real heroes, demonstrating their “ambiguity” only a couple of times. Although their unsightly actions are quickly blurred by plot excuses that claim that all this is for a good cause.

A number of streamers have already refused the public passage of the game precisely for moral reasons, calling the game "cheap propaganda."
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  1. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 27 October 2019 13: 43
    -10
    and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 27 October 2019 13: 46
      +46
      It was they who made up their true nature and actions under the Russians.
      Everyone knows the true evil on the planet, and the heroes are just the very Russians.
      In general, such games need to be banned.
      1. Proxima
        Proxima 27 October 2019 14: 05
        +97
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In general, such games need to be banned.

        And on all kinds of "penal battles, gulags, bastards" and other things that vomit falls upon us from the boxes, do not want to put a ban on it? No, we won’t put it, because OUR liberal directors filmed with state money! Their interest is understandable in the production of games, but what is our interest when we remove such slops?
        1. lucul
          lucul 27 October 2019 15: 12
          -76
          And do you want to put a ban on all kinds of "Penal battles, Gulags, Bastards" and so on, which in a vomit mass falls on us from the boxes?

          What about the Shtrafbat? There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie, which truth turns the whole truth inside out, just like in this game - ordinary hutspa is called ....
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 27 October 2019 15: 23
            +34
            Quote: lucul

            What about the Shtrafbat? There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie

            Come on! Maybe the opposite is true !? One percent of the truth, which, like a skewer, is strung all the rest of the lie? Artists do it expertly. I suggest you study the subject of discussion (it’s easy, there are a lot of normal sources), and then go over the film. As they say, find ten differences!
            1. lucul
              lucul 27 October 2019 15: 53
              -43
              I suggest you study the subject of discussion (it’s easy, there are a lot of normal sources), and then go over the film. As they say, find ten differences!

              Indeed, it does not interfere. For you do not understand the essence of hutspa, in that film.
              1. Proxima
                Proxima 27 October 2019 15: 59
                +21
                Quote: lucul
                For you do not understand the essence of hutspa, in that film

                The main thing is that you at least understand something! It seems that I am discussing with the newly-born Koleiizurengoy, who is 6 years old and who has just learned to knock on the clave.
                1. lucul
                  lucul 27 October 2019 16: 00
                  -38
                  It seems that I am discussing with the newly-born Koleiizurengoy, who is 6 years old and who has just learned to knock on the clave.

                  You can discuss even with a mirror, it will not change the essence.
                  1. krot
                    krot 29 October 2019 05: 32
                    -1
                    It was they who made up their true nature and actions under the Russians.
                    I completely agree! The Anglo-Saxons always do this, carry out the genocide of peoples, destroy the civilian population in atrocious ways, and then everything spirals on us! What are we doing this to you, well, of course, apart from liberals .. liberals in Russia are only good!
                2. Evil echo
                  Evil echo 27 October 2019 20: 39
                  +10
                  No, this "comrade" protects such nonsense on many branches. Apparently the work is like this.
            2. Terenin
              Terenin 27 October 2019 16: 23
              +14
              Quote: Proxima
              Is the rest of the string strung together? Artists do it expertly. I suggest you study the subject of discussion (it’s easy, there are many normal sources),

              You're right. Now, the blow to the penetration of pro-Western Russophobic ideas into our minds has been inflicted from the information "skyscraper" where our corrupt cultural liberals and Western ones have dug in.
              It was necessary earlier to occupy these "skyscrapers for shelling" with the methods of timely declassification of documents about the atrocities against residents, during the Second World War, the Baltic and Ukrainian neo-Nazis and Bandera, and not hide it under the "friendship of fraternal peoples." To expose all the "white helmets", "doctor (D) and without borders", these damn entertainment channels and radio stations, with a clear bias towards a pro-Western point of view, such as "Rain", Echo of Moscow "... that is," the fifth column "and the so-called" independent agencies "...
              This "composition of the enemy troops", incl. and Dutu, with our inactivity, occupies information fields.
              And, then, where are the special services that should fuck the Internet pro-Western riffraff from Geyropa and the USA?
              1. Alf
                Alf 27 October 2019 20: 56
                +3
                Quote: Terenin
                And, then, where are the special services that should fuck the Internet pro-Western riffraff from Geyropa and the USA?

                They have no time, they are struggling with torrents.
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                1. vfwfr
                  vfwfr 27 October 2019 23: 35
                  +3
                  Shooting game FROM TARKOV ... like ours do, like even in Russia .. and the so-called IP is registered in England ... (read somewhere).
                  Here is your answer ... 1. State taxes 2. Torrent users "" And who prevents our IT companies from releasing high-quality games? ""
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 44
                    -1
                    They have no time.
                    All forces are thrown into the fight against the regime on the Internet.
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          2. dik
            dik 27 October 2019 15: 43
            +22
            Quote: lucul
            What about the Shtrafbat? There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie, which truth turns the whole truth inside out, just like in this game - ordinary hutspa is called ....


            Is that what I just read? A person who is interested in military history speaks of a film in which not even 99% was invented, but absolutely ALL?

            If you have never read anything about the penalty parts at all, why are you taking any comments?
            1. Voyager
              Voyager 27 October 2019 15: 51
              -1
              I did not watch the Shtrafbat, I saw only a couple of fragments. Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him? And then the dilemma comes out, and you can’t judge what you haven’t seen and look at the same time as it’s not worth it, judging by the reviews.
              1. GRF
                GRF 27 October 2019 16: 08
                +4
                Quote: Voyager
                I did not watch the Shtrafbat, I saw only a couple of fragments. Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him? And then the dilemma comes out, and you can’t judge what you haven’t seen and look at the same time as it’s not worth it, judging by the reviews.

                and look critically, if they show Russians in a bad perspective, then this is the product of Russophobes, or traitors of their ancestors.
                because my ancestors were, in accordance with the proverb of my ancestors "about dead or good or not" - ideal.
                and in life I behave so that my descendants do not look like liars.
                1. Mestny
                  Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 45
                  -1
                  "Nothing BUT THE TRUTH" And not just "nothing".
              2. Proxima
                Proxima 27 October 2019 16: 54
                +9
                Quote: Voyager
                I did not watch the Shtrafbat, I saw only a couple of fragments. Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him?

                Theses, from the recollections of real penal officers, the officer who received 10 years by the military court, was "awarded" with three months of the penal battalion. Full restoration in rank, the return of awards, the payment of an officer's salary (including for staying in the strike battalion) was carried out after the expiration of this period, even if the unit did not actively participate in hostilities (and this happened). All of the above actions could have been performed ahead of schedule if the unit completed the assigned task or if there was a wound. I don’t know, maybe all this was shown in the film, I didn’t watch it. I turned off the film when I saw the following scene: the actions of the penal battalion were covered by a detachment!!! Whoever takes pictures has no idea about the functions of the penal battalion or the detachment!
              3. lucul
                lucul 27 October 2019 17: 25
                -9
                I did not watch the Shtrafbat, I saw only a couple of fragments. Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him?

                It was not for nothing that I drew the analogy of the Shtrafbat, with the game Call of Duty. Because both there and there is a substitution of concepts.
                I will draw a second analogy - Ukraine. After a hundred years, Western propaganda will claim that it was the Russians who bombed and bombarded the Donbass, that only Russians would have blood on their hands, even films about it would be shot. But answer a simple question - are Russians now in power in / in Ukraine?
                So it is in Shtrafbat - the main emphasis was placed on the fact that it was the Russians who were responsible for all the atrocities in the film, and this is far from the case. In power and in the NKVD, at that time, Russians were no more than 15% (and this is in their own country !!!!). Moreover, in all the films about the war, specialists ALWAYS feature only ethnic Russians, always, but this is far from the case.
                Those who are in / in Ukraine are now in power - even then they were in power - the analogy is direct.
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                1. Sibiriya
                  Sibiriya 27 October 2019 17: 41
                  +9
                  Historical Inaccuracies (not all)

                  The units shown in the film could not exist. Criminals, priests, former prisoners of war, guilty rank-and-file soldiers, etc., as shown in the film, could not fight in the penal battalion. According to the order of the People’s Commissar of Defense of the USSR No. 227 of 28 on July 1942 of the year, only military officers of all military branches who were guilty of violating discipline due to cowardice or instability were sent to penal battalions. After serving his term (no more than 3 months), if he was seriously or moderately injured, as well as for personal heroism shown in battle, they were restored to the rank and sent back to their units. Soldiers and non-commissioned officers served their sentences separately from officers in penal companies.
                  The penal units were a military analogue of places of imprisonment (military penitentiary system), were staffed exclusively by convicts, and the Orthodox priest could not voluntarily join the ranks of the penal battalion. Like any institution in the penitentiary system, the penal units had guards, and the movement of convicts was strictly controlled. Roughly speaking, the penal battalions and penalties were military prisons where convicted servicemen were serving their sentences.
                  For the same reason, the fighter of the penal battalion could not go unnoticed into the AWOL.
                  Convicted to serving their sentence in penal battalions (not more than three months) after their wounds and hospitalization, they returned to their unit as having served their sentence. Returning them to the penal battalion even on a voluntary basis was not possible.
                  The character of A. Serebryakov, Vasily Tverdokhlebov, in fact, could not command a penal battalion. Such units were commanded only by staff officers. This can be allowed if he himself, having won in the penal battalion as a private soldier, would then be rehabilitated and reinstated as an officer.
                  Penalty units were armed with the states of rifle units, any use of abnormal weapons (such as the German MP-40) was prohibited, except for those selected in battle and during the battle itself (Field Charter of the Red Army). At the end of the battle, such a weapon surrendered as a trophy.
                  Penalty units in World War II were first formed not in the USSR, but in the German army.
                  The credits of the last series show a list of penal units, but it is not indicated that all the units listed did not exist at the same time. During the year, as a rule, there were 8-12 penal battalions and about 250 penal companies.
                  In the Ukrainian town, fines take the Vlasovite prisoner. The first and only division of the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) of General Vlasov was formed in February 1945 and participated in battles against the Red Army on the Oder in Germany. On the territory of the USSR, the ROA did not participate in battles, therefore, there were no former Soviet citizens in the form of a ROA in the territory of the occupied part of the USSR.
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                    1. Sibiriya
                      Sibiriya 27 October 2019 17: 45
                      +1
                      It’s better to watch the video at https://youtu.be/zX_da-SWPR4 or google it. The topic has been repeatedly examined by historians on documents and evidence.
                    2. Pedrodepackes
                      Pedrodepackes 27 October 2019 18: 36
                      -4
                      Quote: Siberia
                      Bloopers (not all)

                      crap in vegetable oil, in the classic films of the USSR about the war is also full of mistakes. These are feature films, and we are analyzing them as newsreels.
                      1. Sibiriya
                        Sibiriya 27 October 2019 19: 33
                        +3
                        One of the points of view in the form of quotations (not mine) is given. Everything that is stated there corresponds to reality. Fiction should take place of course, but judging by the number of lies, then you need to write not on real events (positioning it as a historical truth) but a fantasy film. Goblins there, elves, orcs. Such films form a corresponding representation of the fictional world, which is not permissible, given the feat of our grandfathers. And compare war films of the USSR and the penal battalion is certainly powerful wassat
                      2. Pedrodepackes
                        Pedrodepackes 27 October 2019 21: 40
                        -5
                        Quote: Siberia
                        And compare war films of the USSR and the penal battalion is certainly powerful

                        by the number of blunders and lies, they are the same, only in different directions from the truth. Such films as "Penal Battalion" are a direct consequence of the popularist films about the Second World War in the era of the USSR.
                      3. bukhach
                        bukhach 28 October 2019 00: 50
                        +5
                        With what films of the times of the USSR do you compare this shit? With such as "The Cranes Are Flying", "The Living and the Dead" or "Father of a Soldier"? You don't have to find fault with everything. There were certainly weak films, there were popular propaganda campaigns, but the overall level was quite high and influenced the formation of moral values ​​among the younger generation.
                      4. Pedrodepackes
                        Pedrodepackes 28 October 2019 07: 05
                        -2
                        Quote: Buhach
                        What Soviet-era movies do you compare this shit to?
                        Well, firstly, this is not shit, compared to other remakeers, the film was shot (at least the first episodes) are talented and the actors are good
                        Quote: Buhach
                        With such as "The Cranes Are Flying", "The Living and the Dead" or "The Soldier's Father"? You don't have to find fault with everything.
                        secondly, I did not find fault with Soviet films, moreover, "The Living and the Dead" and "The Soldier's Father" are among my 10 favorite films about the war. But it is full of bloopers and cliches, although they do not spoil the film in my eyes.
                      5. Mestny
                        Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 51
                        -1
                        And what, you can not compare? Prohibited?
                      6. ZAV69
                        ZAV69 28 October 2019 12: 13
                        +2
                        Classic films about the war do not have the character of ideological sabotage, but these crafts have.
                      7. Pedrodepackes
                        Pedrodepackes 28 October 2019 12: 27
                        -2
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        and these crafts have.

                        and what is it (in "Penal Battalion")
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        ideological diversion
                        laughing
                      8. ZAV69
                        ZAV69 28 October 2019 18: 57
                        +2
                        Sabotage then? Well, of course, the bloody Stalinist regime threw corpses, then they begin to equate Stalin with Hitler, already agree to the point that the USSR is to blame for the outbreak of World War II. And then "if from urengoy" appear in the assortment.
                      9. Pedrodepackes
                        Pedrodepackes 28 October 2019 19: 05
                        -3
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        Well, then, the bloody Stalinist regime threw corpses

                        Well, there is no about it, but the fact that the penal units were sent to the "hottest" sectors of the front is not it? https://topwar.ru/2312-zhukov-ne-beryog-soldat.html this is an article on VO about the orders of G.K. Zhukov on saving personnel. If Zhukov raised this question, then what happened in reality?
                        Quote: ZAV69
                        And then "if from Urengoy" appears

                        But what about Kolya from Urengoy?
              5. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 27 October 2019 17: 56
                +3
                Quote: Voyager
                I did not watch the Shtrafbat, I saw only a couple of fragments. Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him?

                Everything is wrong, starting with the title with the content. There were no felons in the penal battalions, much less priests in robes with a cross on their neck, there were only officers.
                My grandfather, for example, did not see any detachments with machine guns during the attack.
                Although filmed talentedly, no doubt. However, see for yourself.
                1. ZAV69
                  ZAV69 28 October 2019 12: 19
                  +5
                  The moral prostitution of our creative intelligentsia no longer surprises anyone. So the semi-fake war films are hardly surprising. I am more surprised that they were able to shoot "28 Panfilov's men." In general, it's time for competent comrades to take a closer look at those Ministry of Culture officials who allocate money for such shit and issue rental certificates.
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 52
                    -4
                    Well, where is this rework of reenactors? Who remembers her, except for the adherents of the Goblin cult?
                    1. ZAV69
                      ZAV69 28 October 2019 18: 58
                      0
                      Quote: Mestny
                      Well, where is this rework of reenactors? Who remembers her, except for the adherents of the Goblin cult?

                      What do they remember?
                    2. Igoresha
                      Igoresha 29 October 2019 12: 41
                      0
                      Who remembers her
                      well, not a masterpiece, yes. and worse than the same "Zvezda", but for 1 time it will come down to see, people are just learning
                  2. Igoresha
                    Igoresha 29 October 2019 12: 40
                    0
                    It's time to take a closer look
                    In the meantime, only the Badcometant has looked closely))
              6. Pedrodepackes
                Pedrodepackes 27 October 2019 18: 31
                -6
                Quote: Voyager
                looking at the same time seems to be not worth it, judging by the reviews.

                until the middle of a completely normal film with a good game of good actors, from the middle already some kind of fairy tale begins, you see, a crisis of the genre.
              7. Alf
                Alf 27 October 2019 20: 57
                +4
                Quote: Voyager
                Can anyone briefly tell what is wrong with him?

                In short? Only one word is sheer nonsense.
              8. lukewarm
                lukewarm 28 October 2019 08: 33
                +2
                First I had a chance to see "Penal Battalion" (it is already old as it is a mammoth), and a few years later I read the book "The Truth About Penal Battals" by Alexander Pyltsyn with my father. So it's better to do it in reverse order. You will immediately understand what is wrong with the film. This is if it does not immediately throw up from the biliously maliciously indulgent Serebryakov. Well, which from our rudeness to Canada dumped. From there it happens that the dough comes here to raise and again teaches us to live from there
            2. lucul
              lucul 27 October 2019 15: 56
              -16
              If you have never read anything about the penalty parts at all, why are you taking any comments?

              You know, there are laws of the Russian Federation, and everything seems to be known about them, but they are constantly breaking it.
              So are the penalty parts, according to the charter, it seems like there should be one thing, but in fact - not really.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 54
                -1
                In no case can you write about it here.
                Here are the majority of those who firmly believe in Soviet newspapers and propaganda about the USSR.
          3. BAI
            BAI 27 October 2019 16: 53
            +6
            What about the Shtrafbat? There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie

            Greetings to the precepts of Goebbels and Hollywood. There is already a statement on the Internet (from Russia) that Hitler was taken prisoner by the Americans and "the film" Ottye ki "has convincingly proved this."
          4. Hort
            Hort 28 October 2019 09: 29
            +2
            99% true? I recommend that you familiarize yourself with the documentary works on the penal units of the Second World War. For example, "The real history of penal battalions"
          5. Siberian
            Siberian 28 October 2019 11: 24
            +2
            Read the book by A.V. Pyltsyn. "Penalty kick or How an officer's penal battalion reached Berlin" and do not write this
            What about the Shtrafbat? There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie
          6. Looking for
            Looking for 28 October 2019 17: 17
            0
            Do you even know that the penal battalion during the war is a place of serving the punishment of persons. ONLY officers in rank.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 28
        0
        Quote: Spartanez300
        In general, such games need to be banned.

        Just explain why?
      3. Oleg123219307
        Oleg123219307 27 October 2019 18: 50
        +1
        I’m wondering - is it not much honor in a mediocre Western teenage game to be discussed on a resource where the main topics are serious politics, history and military affairs, and the majority of people who are not schoolchildren are gamers? I played through these games 10 years ago - and it was boring already then, and Russian cannibals were exposed even then, but no one wasted time discussing them on serious resources, and the impression of the game was not a propaganda, but a dull one. I was waiting for an interesting story and got a third-rate action movie with RenTV ... I understand everything, the information war, propaganda, each side considers the other an absolute evil and all that. But the truth is that the security of the Motherland depends on its economy, population, equipment and training of the army, financing of education, science and industry, the stability and effectiveness of the political system, and not at all on the games that children play with. Raise children correctly - and they will be immune to any propaganda from the age of 5. I was taught to remember history. 2 great-grandfathers died in the war, my grandfathers and grandmothers survived who occupied and who evacuated, and then they and my parents worked all my life for the country. You think you can forget it by playing toys,
        or after reading bulk or svobodovets? No, people who love their homeland, such things only reinforce the opinion that threats, both external and internal, are real ...
    2. sabotage
      sabotage 27 October 2019 14: 00
      -28
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

      Already downloading in Steam
      1. Ezekiel 25-17
        Ezekiel 25-17 27 October 2019 14: 14
        +6
        And so they betray the Homeland.
        1. vvnab
          vvnab 27 October 2019 14: 58
          0
          No, not at all! )))
        2. Crash
          Crash 27 October 2019 15: 12
          -1
          Who and how betrayed please explain.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 48
            +8
            Well, it's like they used to say "today you listen to jazz - tomorrow you will sell your homeland." lol
        3. RUSS
          RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 30
          -3
          Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
          And so they betray the Homeland.

          Naphthalene
      2. Atenon
        Atenon 27 October 2019 14: 32
        +1
        You should already feel heavy, you have already been put on
      3. GibSoN
        GibSoN 27 October 2019 16: 24
        0
        Quote: sabotage
        Already downloading in Steam

        All would be nothing, but in the incentive it is not, as it were.
      4. dirk182
        dirk182 4 November 2019 01: 25
        0
        it is not in the incentive)
    3. Praetorian4
      Praetorian4 27 October 2019 14: 30
      0
      Yes, but not all. In the rest of the world, nobody paid much attention to this at all.
    4. Atenon
      Atenon 27 October 2019 14: 30
      +5
      Does this seem strange to you? Or for you, the killing of compatriots, even in the game, is this normal?
      1. sabotage
        sabotage 27 October 2019 14: 42
        -22
        Quote: AtenON
        Does this seem strange to you? Or for you, the killing of compatriots, even in the game, is this normal?

        Let’s take the weapons from the police and the Russian Guard, the FSO and the FSB, otherwise they can kill these compatriots.
        1. WILL
          WILL 27 October 2019 14: 51
          +10
          Quote: sabotage
          Quote: AtenON
          Does this seem strange to you? Or for you, the killing of compatriots, even in the game, is this normal?

          Let’s take the weapons from the police and the Russian Guard, the FSO and the FSB, otherwise they can kill these compatriots.

          And let's, as in primitive times - who is stronger is right !!! Well, or who lined the first ... stop
          Are you out of your mind ??? Do you live in the State or on the Computer?
          Sometimes the commentators imbecile just rolls over ... play whatever you want, if Morale allows you! I - definitely will not allow, even virtually kill their own!
          I hope the rules of law - in this situation, they will get to you ...
          1. Yaro Polk
            Yaro Polk 27 October 2019 16: 01
            +7
            Then they come out of these .. Koli from Urengoy.
          2. GibSoN
            GibSoN 27 October 2019 16: 29
            +3
            I - definitely will not allow, even virtually kill their own!
            And how do you define your war or not? According to your logic, more than 10 years in Chechnya they killed their own! Do not suck from your finger .. Reading komenty, it seems that most are ready to kill each other for much less ..
          3. RUSS
            RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 31
            -3
            Quote: ANIMAL
            And let's, as in primitive times - who is stronger is right !!!

            So in Russia now it is.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 27 October 2019 17: 51
              +2
              Quote: RUSS
              So in Russia right now

              Judging by this comment, you were born after 1991, if not after 1995 ... feel
              1. ground
                ground 27 October 2019 23: 18
                +3
                Well no. Judging by this and his other comments, this so-called "RUSS" was born and lives somewhere between Zhitomir and Zhmerinka.
          4. sabotage
            sabotage 27 October 2019 19: 53
            -3
            Quote: ANIMAL
            And let's, as in primitive times - who is stronger is right !!! Well, or who lined the first ...
            Are you out of your mind ??? Do you live in the State or on the Computer?
            Sometimes the commentators imbecile just rolls over ... play whatever you want, if Morale allows you! I - definitely will not allow, even virtually kill their own!
            I hope the rules of law - in this situation, they will get to you ...

            What an overwhelming intellectual task: to separate a computer game from real life))))) Someone plays games because of interesting gameplay, beautiful graphics, team game features. And someone DOES NOT PLAY games, but gets to the bottom of them. It would be funny if it were not so sad.
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 28 October 2019 08: 57
              +5
              And someone scolds Medvedev, United Russia, but looks in love at the gdp and thinks how good he is, and the rest are all radishes
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 28 October 2019 14: 57
                0
                And someone stubbornly watered on the Internet, it is known how everything that the hands can reach in the country, hiding behind the "wonderful" USSR.
                1. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 29 October 2019 03: 09
                  +1
                  You so love to scum the USSR and at the same time consider yourself a patriot. Hm! fool
          5. Evil echo
            Evil echo 27 October 2019 20: 56
            0
            Comes around again. When there is no morality or ethics, conscience is not worth remembering.
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        3. Proxima
          Proxima 27 October 2019 15: 32
          +9
          Quote: sabotage
          Let’s take the weapons from the police and the Russian Guard, the FSO and the FSB, otherwise these compatriots can really be killed

          And let’s take the clave from you, otherwise you’ll kill your brains with your nonsense posts! fool
        4. lukewarm
          lukewarm 28 October 2019 08: 38
          0
          Quote: sabotage
          Let’s take away weapons from the police and the Russian Guard, FSO and FSB

          ... and give me the white and fluffy give it to my friends? If there are such valnus, then I’ll stand standing applause. And not one.
      2. Pedrodepackes
        Pedrodepackes 27 October 2019 18: 43
        -8
        Quote: AtenON
        Or for you, the killing of compatriots, even in the game, is this normal?

        Of course not normal. Was killing compatriots taken hostage by the Reds normal? Or the murder of compatriots by the sentences of a special trio or even without trial in the 20s and 30s?
        1. lukewarm
          lukewarm 28 October 2019 08: 41
          -1
          Quote: Pedrodepackes
          And it was normal to kill compatriots

          Oh wei !!!! Why not look for examples in the history of other countries? Or ours, but earlier. Start off with the Pugachev uprising? AND? "Compatriot"?
          1. Pedrodepackes
            Pedrodepackes 28 October 2019 08: 45
            0
            Quote: unwillingly
            And why would you not look for examples in the history of other countries?

            why don’t you read the whole thread and ask a question to the person who started the conviction? Or is it not kosher to ask about reds?
            Quote: unwillingly
            AND? "Compatriot"?
            1. lukewarm
              lukewarm 28 October 2019 08: 59
              0
              Quote: Pedrodepackes
              Or is it not kosher to ask about reds?

              Exactly. Yes. And read the branch. Total!
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      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 51
        +8
        Quote: Black_Jacket
        This game must be prohibited unambiguously, without any concessions. Just ban and put.
        I have one question: how do you want to ban it? There are no shops with disks for a long time. Steam and other online stores are located outside of Russia, as are torrent trackers. Anyone who wants to buy (download a pirate) a game will buy it (download a pirate) and pass. There are no administrative measures against this.
        1. Black_Vatnik
          Black_Vatnik 27 October 2019 15: 58
          +4
          I understand perfectly that torrents are our everything. But should the state have some kind of position or will it spit and grind again?
          As far as I know, there will be no game in Steam; it is sold on the official resource of the developer. Plus, for the game you need a constant Internet connection, because each time you enter the game, a username and password are entered. I understand that in the future they will most likely create a patch, but so far it’s stupid to download this game from a torrent and run it is problematic. Not very strong in this thread, I could be wrong.
        2. Tsoy
          Tsoy 27 October 2019 16: 21
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          I have one question: how do you want to ban it? There are no shops with disks for a long time. Steam and other online stores are located outside of Russia, as are torrent trackers. Anyone who wants to buy (download a pirate) a game will buy it (download a pirate) and pass. There are no administrative measures against this.


          Stores with disks are not just there, they are even before a fig and more. Another thing is that in the Russian Federation the game will not be released on physical media or in the playstation store. Sony refused to distribute the game for fear of consequences. And no, the Japanese are not moralists. Not at all. Net calculation. Next year, a new generation of consoles comes out and Sony does not need a scandal or a damaged reputation. Microsoft and Steam have nothing to lose, so you can safely buy a digital copy. Even if there are regional restrictions, no one forbids registering an account through VPN and getting your copy.

          On Avito, by the way, a physical copy for PS4 is sold at 6-8 thousand per disk. So to speak for exclusivity. You can disable the game, as in the case of Company of Heroes 2, but this will only apply to physical media.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 07
            0
            Quote: Choi
            Stores with disks are not just there, they are even before a fig and more
            Last time I saw it in my city in 2013. I doubt that in other cities of Russia it is different.
            Quote: Choi
            On Avito, by the way, a physical copy for PS4 is sold at 6-8 thousand per disk.
            In Russia, consoles are not as popular as in the West and Japan. Most play on personal computers. The grafon on PS4 no longer reaches the PC.
            Quote: Choi
            You can ban the game, as in the case of Company of Heroes 2, but this will only apply to physical media.
            I tell you, disks have long gone out of fashion. Who will use them, well, it's funny.
            Quote: Choi
            Microsoft and Steam have nothing to lose, so you can safely buy a digital copy. Even if there are regional restrictions, no one forbids registering an account through VPN and getting your copy.
            So everyone will buy there. Or download the repack from torrents.
            1. Tsoy
              Tsoy 27 October 2019 18: 59
              0
              Last time I saw it in my city in 2013. I doubt that in other cities of Russia it is different.


              Do you have any Eldorado, Mvideo or CSN in your city? These networks are one of the main suppliers of licensed products for consoles. And there is also Gamestop and 1С Interest. Or the same OZONE. Besides them, go to AVITO and be very surprised at the number of semi-underground retailers.

              In Russia, consoles are not as popular as in the West and Japan. Most play on personal computers. The grafon on PS4 no longer reaches the PC.


              It is almost like that. But in Russia with 2016 more than 1 million PS4 were sold. In France, 2,2 million. As you can see, the gap is not so big. But it is worth considering that half of the sold pads were immediately flashed, that is, games on them were no longer bought.

              The grafon may not reach, but according to the Steam data, the average iron in the Russian Federation is the 10-12 video cards of the summer ago. They are a PS3 level graphon that barely pulls. Most of the games take place on YouTube watching streams.
              1. Greenwood
                Greenwood 29 October 2019 03: 19
                0
                Quote: Choi
                Do you have any Eldorado, Mvideo or CSN in your city? These networks are one of the main suppliers of licensed products for consoles. And there is also Gamestop and 1С Interest. Or the same OZONE. Besides them, go to AVITO and be very surprised at the number of semi-underground retailers.
                Of course I have. If you mean drives for consoles, then they are for sale. For tons of money, and almost no one buys it. I would not consider them at all. Prohibition of licensed disks for PS4 / Xbox One in a country where people prefer computers (while downloading pirates from torrents, or sewing curling irons), almost no one will notice.
                Quote: Choi
                since 2016, more than 1 million PS4 have been sold in Russia. In France, 2,2 million
                In France, the population is about 65 million compared to our 145.
                Quote: Choi
                But it is worth considering that half of the sold pads were immediately flashed, that is, games on them were no longer bought.
                Well, you yourself confirm my idea. It’s worthless that they will forbid the litsuha of the spell, if no one was going to buy her one figs. Disks for consoles are too expensive in relation to the average salary of young people in Russia.
        3. Edmond dantes
          Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 10: 53
          0
          Steam fully complies with the laws of the Russian Federation like other online stores operating in our country.
    6. GRF
      GRF 27 October 2019 15: 36
      -3
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

      Yes, the boycott of Russia may be weak, but it is time for our authorities to authorize it for all the "cultural" products of the CIS.
      for inaccurate translation - fine
      for the unproven slander of the nation - a prison.
      for the omission of power - pogroms (which harm the people more)? Or is it time to introduce legal measures to assess the actions of the people by the people?

      since the Ministry of Culture, Ministry of Justice, Ministry of Foreign Affairs for the admission of such games ... for some reason is not responsible (probably because there are no lawyers there, I thought that it was they, but not, they did not pull adequately on the defenders of the nation) that means ...
      but what am I talking about ... when our parliamentarians have been taught for a long time, and more than once, how to behave "correctly" ...

      it turns out that our authorities can punish foreigners, but the people don’t ... with the carrot too ...
      so under whose control is power and, as a consequence, a country?
      1. Mestny
        Mestny 28 October 2019 15: 06
        -2
        Who about what, and lousy about the bath.
        The game is being released in the West, but our government is still to blame. Well, who would doubt it.
        1. GRF
          GRF 28 October 2019 18: 18
          0
          Quote: Mestny
          Who about what, and lousy about the bath.
          The game is being released in the West, but our government is still to blame. Well, who would doubt it.

          colleague, I’m glad that there is agreement in the trenches ...
          but I would like to clarify, the people are guilty, as if he did not keep silent, and not only his part called power ...

          but I do not blame (people want to go pissed off, let them go), but those who do not want to be heard ...
          and for this there must be legalized civilian control, and it is precisely on its improvement that my aspirations are.
          I believe that when people choose new representatives of power, they should evaluate the actions of previous ones.
          So, the next sale of the Motherland (privatization of state property) is planned and what, will the government be to blame? No, and so as not to be indignant, pay attention to the spell ...
    7. RUSS
      RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 27
      -4
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

      And then a couple of people
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 October 2019 17: 56
        +1
        Quote: RUSS
        And then a couple of people

        How do you know if you are distributing this game?
    8. Dobrenko
      Dobrenko 27 October 2019 18: 40
      +1
      And they did it right. https://overclockers.ru/blog/Vister/show/31156/igroki-massovo-zanizhajut-rejting-call-of-duty-modern-warfare
    9. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 28 October 2019 14: 08
      +1
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

      Yeah ... those same gamers who once actively cut into Opeartion Flashpoint. wink
      Something I don’t remember hype about OFP - and there in the vanilla and add-ons there were the Soviet occupation of independent states, and stripping, and help bearers of democracy anti-Soviet resistance. And mostly Soviet soldiers and equipment flashed in the sight for the most part.
    10. tomket
      tomket 28 October 2019 16: 44
      0
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

      Is there a company there for Russia? Well, what to do barbarism, genocide and other horrors with the Americans, the British, the French? I would play such a company.
    11. Igoresha
      Igoresha 29 October 2019 12: 39
      0
      chickens in the fall believe that after half a year it will be possible to look at the number of sales played on wikipedia
    12. dirk182
      dirk182 4 November 2019 01: 23
      0
      play and successfully) I used to be fond of this series and I remember that the Russians always "dragged", even despite the high pings)
  2. APASUS
    APASUS 27 October 2019 13: 45
    +19
    Here it is an element of soft power, games, movies and we everywhere play the role of bad guys. The information war in action. The most interesting thing is how the Americans look there. Democracy fighters crying when the anthem sounds
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 27 October 2019 13: 47
      +18
      You have to do yours, so much the better!
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 October 2019 13: 49
        +1
        Quote: neri73-r
        You have to do yours, so much the better!

        That's right. And to promote at the state level, not these talking cowards ..............
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 17
          +4
          Quote: APASUS
          And untwist at the state level
          Better not. A quality product will always find its consumer, whether it be a game or a movie. When the state gets involved in the promotion business, it turns out, to put it mildly, not really.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 27 October 2019 14: 25
            +2
            Quote: Greenwood
            Better not. A quality product will always find its consumer, whether it be a game or a movie. When the state gets involved in the promotion business, it turns out, to put it mildly, not really.

            A high-quality product implies a large investment. Something that our capitalists do not really invest in the development of such content. You should always consider that such games carry a political and political burden besides
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 31
              +4
              Of course. The trouble is that the gaming industry in the West has been developing sequentially and has grown into an entire industry with its large development teams, publishers, etc. etc. The budgets of some top games are tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, the development time takes several years, and hundreds of programmers, game designers, scriptwriters, etc. In Russia in the 90s, it was clearly not a game building, although some teams of enthusiasts produced solid projects. Now I don’t even hear about any good AAA-class games. In Ukraine and Poland, things are much better with this.
              1. Edmond dantes
                Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 10: 56
                0
                I still agree about Poland, but in 404 what are such great developers?
                1. vindigo
                  vindigo 28 October 2019 12: 01
                  +1
                  Stalker in / in Ukraine did.
                  1. Edmond dantes
                    Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 12: 19
                    -1
                    That’s the essence of the matter, now this company is essentially not there. And the fact that they allegedly saw part 2 there is not a fact that they will finish it.
                2. Greenwood
                  Greenwood 29 October 2019 03: 27
                  0
                  From Ukrainian studios I know the Stalker series, the Metro series, the Cossacks series, the Xenus series, the Forerunner game. The Ukrainian unit of Crytek actively participated in the development of Crysis.
                  1. Edmond dantes
                    Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 09: 49
                    0
                    Alody, a series of blitzkrieg and behind enemy lines, a series of silent Storm. Now they are making an online shooter escape from Tark. Well, War thunder, etc. But the Sumerians all died, except for the subway, and then because Western publishers sold out.
                    1. Greenwood
                      Greenwood 29 October 2019 14: 43
                      0
                      Bullshit. Mostly strategies (not so many people play strategies, their sales are much lower than action games) and online games with a dubious future. I didn’t even hear about Silent Storm, I had to google it. Not a single normal iconic plot shooter. The weight (and influence on the game industry) of Ukrainian games is still much greater.
                      1. Edmond dantes
                        Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 17: 57
                        0
                        So from your example, only the stalker affected somehow the game industry, the rest is a trash through passage.
      2. Olfred
        Olfred 27 October 2019 15: 03
        0
        Yeah, they will, how can we, we don't have such technologies, there is no such hardware as "them". Unfortunately, our game makers do not know how to copy anything except for stupid copying, just ask you not to say anything about tanks / ships, etc. garbage from mail ru ... hi
        1. would
          would 28 October 2019 04: 40
          0
          Yeah, they will, how can we, we don't have such technologies, there is no such hardware as "them"


          Technologies are licensed, iron is sold and bought, and so far no sanctions have been imposed. What are you talking about?

          About how "our game makers don't know how to do anything" you can tell, for example, the breakthrough game of 2000 "Corsairs: Curse of the Distant Seas" from which foreigners at exhibitions clinked their tongues, the recent Beholder (also very well received by critics) and I am sure that knowledgeable people will name more more examples. Another question is that the domestic igroprom really went into "tanks, ships and other rubbish from mail ru".
          1. Olfred
            Olfred 29 October 2019 12: 19
            0
            Technologies are licensed, iron is sold and bought, and so far no sanctions have been imposed.
            Well, yes, they took you and sold everything you wanted directly) I am far from a game-building, but for some reason I’m sure that serious technologies are unlikely to be given to you.
            They gave an example of a game from the 00s, with a rating of 71/100, and call it breakthrough)))
            Examples of really cool "our" games - Space Rangers (stupidly legend), Metro, Stalker, although Ukrainian, but I say - ours)
            What are you talking about?

            I mean that "brains" drain into successful firms, as in the canon, but here they again look anywhere, just not where they need to ... How many of our compatriots working as 3 designers, artists, etc., work ALREADY there, just the same creating "evil Russians" in the sensational CoD ?!
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 29 October 2019 14: 52
              0
              Quote: OlfRed
              I am far from igrostroya, but for some reason I’m sure that serious technology is unlikely to give you back.
              You're not right. Buying a good engine for your project is not a problem. There are many options, and the developers themselves do not put obstacles to anyone. Take the very technologically advanced CryEngine engine, which is distributed almost for nothing (developers ask for a small fee if the product based on the engine is commercially successful and profitable), its source codes are available on the GitHub portal. Or Unreal Engine 4, also distributed in a free scheme. Those. There is a technical base for the proposed project. It remains only to assemble a competent team of developers, animators, game designers, screenwriters, specialists in sound, etc.
              Quote: OlfRed
              I mean that "brains" drain into successful firms, as in the canon, but here they look everywhere, just not where they need to ...
              Then I agree. But there is a nuance. Now often brains do not flow from one domestic company to another foreign. Now very often entire teams of developers in full force and their families move over the hill, for example, to Cyprus, to the glorious city of Limassol. And they become a foreign office that pays taxes there. And it has nothing to do with Russia (Ukraine, Belarus).
            2. would
              would 30 October 2019 17: 40
              -1
              Well, yes, they took you and sold everything you wanted directly) I am far from a game-building, but for some reason I’m sure that serious technologies are unlikely to be given to you.


              That's exactly what the "distant" is. Most modern game engines are originally made for distribution to third party companies. The most famous and massive example is the Unreal Engine, they sell to everyone who has money, including the latest version. Also, at least the previous versions of the engine were bought and based on them, their own engine was made (the conditions for this are unknown to me).

              For understanding:

              March 2, 2015 Unreal Engine 4 became free. However, game developers, as before, must transfer 5% of the declared price of the game (paragraph 5, part 10 of the license agreement) to Epic Games, provided that the game’s revenues are more than $ 3000 per quarter.


              Iron is still easier. You just buy it if you have money.

              So the engine is not a problem now, hardware is just a matter of finance. Now the most important thing is a team of specialists (that is, the very "brains") and the budget for this business. So far, there are no sanctions in the game industry.

              They gave an example of a game from the 00s, with a rating of 71/100, and call it breakthrough)))


              Once again, it is clear that the "distant". At the time of its display, there was no engine in the world on the basis of which it would be possible to show such realistic sea battles and land activity in one project. For their time, the Corsairs were a technological breakthrough, developers from the Russian Federation were the first to do something like that, which was noted at exhibitions. No one then could do such a project. And it has nothing to do with ratings.

              I mean that "brains" drain into successful firms, as in the canon, but here they again look anywhere, just not where they need to ... How many of our compatriots working as 3 designers, artists, etc., work ALREADY there, just the same creating "evil Russians" in the sensational CoD ?!


              Such a problem really exists, but not only with us. For example, you can recall Poland. It goes without saying that they pay less than in the rich countries of the EU or the USA and all who can go there. For example, you can recall the already legendary company CD Projekt Red which, with such problems (many employees complained about low salaries and went to other companies), managed to make the already legendary and breakthrough series of games The Witcher and became the locomotive of the industry.

              At 90-00 we had exactly the same problem, but Corsairs and space rangers appeared (I don’t call Stalker because of his terrible technical performance).

              So yes, there is a brain drain problem. Almost everyone who is in demand in the United States, prosperous EU countries, Singapore and so on. will move there because of a completely different standard of living. However, history shows that even with this problem, you can not only make a good product, but you can make a breakthrough product, especially against the background of a general crisis in the industry. Only the lazy one who has not kicked the Call of Duty series for years because of years of stagnation and even degradation, only the lazy now does not kick such a monster as Electronic Arts because of mediocre projects and terrible financial policies. The industry is in crisis, good projects are rare, for example, the RTS genre is generally dead. Standing out against this background is much easier than when EA was a sign of quality.

              And this is proved by the Kickstarter phenomenon itself and projects from it. If you are not up to date this is a service where ordinary people give developers money for developers under the conditions of game development. So there were littered with laudatory reviews: Wasteland 2 and both parts of Pillars of Eternity.
        2. Edmond dantes
          Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 09: 51
          0
          An example of a copied game in the studio.
          1. Olfred
            Olfred 29 October 2019 12: 31
            0
            Yes, please - Atom RPG (Fallout), Dead Dozen (a salad of several games), Iratus: Lord of the Dead ...
            Enough for you or to search? wassat
            1. Edmond dantes
              Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 17: 54
              0
              According to you, any arpg about post-apocalypse is a copy of the folout. I haven’t heard about the rest. And by the way, your favorite Western developers are also not shy about copying other people's games, sometimes just insolently.
      3. RUSS
        RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 34
        +1
        Quote: neri73-r
        You have to do yours, so much the better!

        We can only show shows about whores in prime time on the first and second channels, and in the evening a nightingale litter.
    2. Edik
      Edik 27 October 2019 13: 54
      -3
      Quote: APASUS
      Here it is an element of soft power, games, movies, and everywhere we play the role of bad guys. Information war in action.

      Young people in the world should know that Russian is the devil in the flesh! yes Otherwise, how to prepare them for war and justify the eastward advance?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 October 2019 14: 02
        0
        Quote: Edik
        Young people in the world should know that Russian is the devil in the flesh! Otherwise, how to prepare them for war and justify the eastward advance?

        That's for sure. And then they come to Russia on business and are very surprised at what they see. It turns out that the Russians don’t eat children and there are no bears in the streets, many have a pattern break.
        1. Edik
          Edik 27 October 2019 14: 07
          0
          Quote: APASUS
          That's for sure. And then they come to Russia on business and are very surprised at what they see.

          Yes, they are such people, they are weak, and often their opinion is formed by hidden propaganda! That is how we and the Ukrainians can pit us.
    3. d.olegov44
      d.olegov44 27 October 2019 14: 06
      -6
      Quote: APASUS
      Here it is an element of soft power, games, movies and we everywhere play the role of bad guys. The information war in action. The most interesting thing is how the Americans look there. Democracy fighters crying when the anthem sounds


      Let Mikhalkov make a more talented and interesting movie that will beat Amr’s bulls at the box office. He and 50 lyamov not like it.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 27 October 2019 14: 08
        +12
        Quote: d.olegov44
        Let Mikhalkov make a more talented and interesting movie,

        Mikhalkov and an interesting movie. Joke or what?
    4. Cut Samshitov
      Cut Samshitov 27 October 2019 14: 07
      +1
      Here it is an element of soft power, games, movies and we everywhere play the role of bad guys. The information war in action. The most interesting thing is how the Americans look there. Democracy fighters crying when the anthem sounds
      At the same time, local liberoids scream until they turn blue that the state has no right to interfere with "art", "the artist sees it this way", "give money for a film, and then it's not your sabach business."
    5. Black_Vatnik
      Black_Vatnik 27 October 2019 15: 40
      +5
      This is no longer soft power.
      Soft power is Jude Law as Vasily Zaitsev in a shitty movie, or a drunken astronaut in an earflaps from "Armageddon". There is nothing left of softness in this game. Tough, aggressive, extremely offensive and deceitful propaganda. Russian soldiers in this game were not shown only as cannibals.
    6. Mestny
      Mestny 28 October 2019 15: 09
      -1
      Imagine - we have released such a game, just the opposite. That is, America is an absolute evil, and our fighters cry when the hymn sounds.
      Yes, such a howl will rise on our Internet, it will tear all fighters with the Putin regime. Even here, in VO, a crowd of clowns will run into the bonfire mode
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 29 October 2019 14: 56
        0
        That's when they release, then we'll talk. Although of course you can fantasize how you will heroically extinguish fighters with the regime.
  3. Escobar
    Escobar 27 October 2019 13: 49
    +8
    A subtle move, grow new generations of Russophobes through computer games, and even get a lot of sales
    1. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 14: 10
      -2
      Well, suck your "deck" and do not whine. Show America in it as an outrageous evil. What is the problem?
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 32
        +5
        Quote: Crash
        What's the problem?

        I would say - "in everything". request
      2. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 October 2019 17: 59
        +2
        Quote: Crash
        Well, suck

        Quote: Crash
        Show America the obsessive evil

        Albanian? laughing
      3. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 27 October 2019 22: 25
        +1
        It is necessary to create "games" in which the Airborne Forces with one company or platoon takes the Capitol and installs the "Victory Banner" on it good
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 28 October 2019 15: 10
      0
      Russophobia is ineffective.
      Now they grow up among the Russians themselves who fiercely hate their country, and the main thing is the power in "this country."
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 29 October 2019 03: 33
        +1
        Quote: Mestny
        and the main thing is the power in "this country".
        But you really love the country, especially the government, right? Probably attached to the state feeder or fit into the market.
  4. g1v2
    g1v2 27 October 2019 13: 53
    +26
    This is called dehumanization. At the same time, they did the same with the Serbs when in all films and games they were exposed as absolute evil. This is a fairly effective means of creating the right public opinion. All scandals with supposedly doping, interference in the elections, Skripaly - this is all one scheme. Creating an image of evil, with which you can’t even think about cooperation. Do you want to trade with Russians?
    As you can. This is worse than trading with Hitler. belay This is an absolute enemy. If you look at European caricatures. it is easy to see that the image of Russia does not change in any guises and times. They portrayed roughly the same thing, that of Tsarist Russia, that of the USSR, that of modernity. There was only one period of time when we were loved - the 90s. When we allowed to plunder our resources and in everything obeyed the west. But as soon as we fell ill with this, we immediately became an evil empire for the West.
    1. Sofa Patriot
      Sofa Patriot 27 October 2019 14: 22
      -22
      Precisely, dehumanization. And with respect to which state and people, has Russia pursued the same information policy over the past 5 years? Hint: crucified boy, raped old women, bullfinches of the wrong color, fascist junta, punishers, Nazis and much more.
      1. Maalkavianin
        Maalkavianin 27 October 2019 14: 40
        +17
        So you don’t have to rape old women, crucify boys, walk under the banners of Badner and Shukhevych, shoot the villages and you look, they wouldn’t talk badly about you.
      2. Igool
        Igool 27 October 2019 15: 24
        +4
        Hint for Divanny Patriot (Oleg): Battalion "Shakhtersk" after "Tornado" and other volunteers, Odessa on May 2, "Sokira Perun" and her admirers. Are there really no admirers of the ideas of National Socialism there? Why talk about isolated cases of fakes, if there are enough facts without them
      3. g1v2
        g1v2 27 October 2019 17: 59
        +1
        Do the enemy have to do advertising? Ukraine is an enemy and that’s it. For Americans, we are the enemy and they act quite logically.
        Well, about that. that Ukraine is a Nazi state, is there really any doubt? The Nazi regime is made by Nazi laws, not radicals and torchlight processions. The adoption of language law clearly defined uraine as a Nazi state. Just as Hitler Germany was so determined by the adoption of the Nuremberg laws in the year 35, long before the start of World War II. Until the language law is repealed, Ukraine will be clearly a Nazi state.
    2. Ryzhik
      Ryzhik 27 October 2019 16: 34
      -2
      There was only one period of time when we were loved - the 90s. When we allowed to plunder our resources and in everything obeyed the west. But as soon as we got sick ...

      Is this nightmare finally over? But I didn’t know.
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 27 October 2019 18: 00
        +3
        Probably you just have not been to Russia for a long time. Sausage emigration, she is. wink
        1. Ryzhik
          Ryzhik 27 October 2019 18: 07
          -1
          I don’t even know what is worse, being in a sausage emigration or a jingoistic patriot. yes
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 28 October 2019 15: 12
            -1
            For people like you, the word patriot = swearing.
            Your brain is washed with soap.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 29 October 2019 03: 34
              0
              And who is a patriot? Are you chtoli? Regularly sweeping the Soviet period with slops and praising Putin? Is your last name accidentally not Solovyov?
    3. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 October 2019 18: 09
      +2
      Quote: g1v2
      There was only one period of time when we were loved - the 90s. When we allowed to plunder our resources and in everything obeyed the west.

      And even then they did not like and tried to show Russian freaks. There is a real war, and an image of the population of Russia (not only Russian, but of all the ethnic groups living in the country) is created, unsightly, practically cannibalistic, so that when they destroy the Russian population, even children would not be sorry. My personal opinion is that the war is being waged precisely against the people of Russia, and not just against the country's leadership. I wish everyone understood this. request
  5. Nychego
    Nychego 27 October 2019 13: 53
    +3
    It would be strange if the enemy of the Russians were white and fluffy bunnies ...
    It is quite expected that within the confrontation, both sides will form the image of a deceitful, vile, at the same time dangerous and cowardly enemy. It has never been otherwise since the middle of the 19th century - only a defeated enemy can write a nice requiem, like Kipling's "Fuzzy-woozzie".
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 27 October 2019 16: 52
      +3
      Quote: Nychego
      It would be strange if the enemy of the Russians were white and fluffy bunnies ...
      It is quite expected that within the confrontation, both sides will form the image of a deceitful, vile, at the same time dangerous and cowardly enemy. It has never been otherwise since the middle of the 19th century - only a defeated enemy can write a nice requiem, like Kipling's "Fuzzy-woozzie".

      You are right, but we are sick not of the enemy, but of the home-grown traitors - the "fifth column". The state system collapsed from them. And, as a result of the attack of external enemies, the territory of Russia only increased. Is always!
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 27 October 2019 13: 54
    +3
    The war for the minds of future generations continues ... a very good field of influence was found ... for gamers (and this is a huge number of young and not so) the game is life and truth ... they will form an opinion in which they will live their age ... a generation is growing which cannot be persuaded ... this is the future meat in the united campaign of the West to Russia (after all, they will gather for the third time ... there are a lot of conversations and plans .. different chatter about the local use of force and conventional weapons) ...
    There are many recipes ... but the best answer is to create a game in which for unleashing all the wars (real) you can put real countries (USA, France, Belgium, etc.) ... and just show how they are fighting ... help terrorists ... are engaged in drug trafficking (drugs in exchange for weapons) and other fun games ... and the creators of the games with us (and if Belarusians fit in) are very strong ...
  7. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 27 October 2019 13: 54
    +1
    Yes, this is not the first time. There, at least Russian underdeveloped bloodthirsty. also news to me)
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 27 October 2019 18: 50
      0
      This is the usual dehumanization of the enemy, the ideological treatment of its population. This is from the same opera on "2 million raped German women" ...
  8. sabakina
    sabakina 27 October 2019 13: 54
    +8
    For the sake of interest, I played on the WoT European server. It’s not even deer, it’s crayfish!
    1. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 27 October 2019 23: 42
      -1
      It’s not even deer, it’s crayfish!


      I have not played for two years already serially .... but .... th platoon. I will look at the master’s game. And if you don’t pass it on, I'll take it into slavery - you'll call Call of Duty until the blue laughing bully
  9. mavrus
    mavrus 27 October 2019 13: 55
    0
    They are making us on the propaganda field ...
    The allegation of "undemocratic propaganda" is enough and ... who is immediately expelled, and who is first imprisoned and then expelled.
    In our country, the agents of the State Department "calmly rally" that the "democratic" are piled up, that the Bandera-fascist sables.
    1. kjhg
      kjhg 27 October 2019 15: 26
      -3
      Quote: mavrus
      In our country, the agents of the State Department "calmly rally" that the "democratic"

      So maybe the problem is that propaganda worked in such a way that you really believed that they were agents of the State Department? But the security forces still have not found ANYTHING against them, no matter how much they go around the clock for everyone, no matter how much they listen and crawl into their PERSONAL lives, how much they confiscate equipment that is personal property? Your main problem is that you have become a victim of internal propaganda aimed at discrediting the opposition forces. This is a standard method even in the USA.
      Regarding computer games and films, they really use it as soft power. But so do all countries. The only question is the degree of their popularity in the world. In the 21st century, only people with mental retardation can think that prohibitions and laws can be fenced off from the rest of the world. Hello to edrams from Telegram users lol. You can truly win the information war only if the country develops no worse than our opponents. But this requires a fair, effective system of change of power. Then films will be shot and games developed. And with this, we have a fat erosovskaya w..a negative
      1. ground
        ground 27 October 2019 23: 52
        +1
        Nice person. Could you give examples of countries in which a "fair, effective system of power change" appeared (c) and immediately after that began, for example, "making films, developing games" (c)? Huh? well, at least one country? right here so that in the marketable quantity all this begins to happen in it?

        You should take off your little eyes. The vast majority of films are made in the USA. The vast majority of games are in the USA. "Soft power", which supposedly (if you believe), is used by all countries (haha), is also only in the United States. The "rest of the world" (c), from which you urge not to isolate yourself in any way, is the United States and the US hangers-on (NATO allies).
        However, if you do not have State Department agents, but healthy opposition forces, then in vain I probably exhort you. Tiananmen give you life-giving, perhaps ...
        1. kjhg
          kjhg 28 October 2019 09: 47
          -1
          Quote: grond
          if you don’t have State Department agents, but healthy opposition forces

          Give at least one evidence that, in addition to idle talk, that they are agents of the State Department?
          Quote: grond
          Tiananmen give you life-giving, perhaps ...

          A typical sign of a person struck by Goebbels propaganda. For starters, you would stop watching Kiselevism. You see, in a year or two, they might have ceased to wish death to their compatriots who did not succumb to propaganda, aimed at mentally retarded people. I sincerely wish you recovery.
  10. Jerk
    Jerk 27 October 2019 13: 57
    +1
    So in Syria they paid a lot of money to the ahedron - all that’s left is to shoot Hollywood, as usual - in reality, the penguins are, as always, in shit wink
  11. maidan.izrailovich
    maidan.izrailovich 27 October 2019 13: 58
    +4
    We must not whine about this matter, but release diametrically opposed game content. Moreover, in Russia there are enough good programmers. You just need to fill up the world with games where Americans are an absolute evil. am
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 27 October 2019 14: 03
      0
      Yes, you can release at least something. they still have to be sold) the audience can only be picked up with content that is qualitatively different from the rest. and as shooters grow like mushrooms.
      1. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 28 October 2019 05: 13
        -1
        carstorm 11 (Dmitry)
        Yes, you can release at least something. they still need to be sold ....

        You did not carefully read my comment.
        Again....
        ... in Russia there are enough good programmers.

        I will add. Not just good, but first-class programmers. And believe me, if you finance a similar project, then the game masterpieces created by them (Russian programmers) will disperse like hot cakes.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 21
      +1
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      Moreover, in Russia there are enough good programmers.
      So name at least one solid shooter created in Russia. But there is no such thing, alas.
      "Brothers" Ukrainians and "non-brothers" Poles have been much more successful in this with their Stalkers, Metro, etc. True, there a Western publisher has always actively controlled the development.
      Quote: maidan.izrailovich
      You just need to fill up the world with games where Americans are an absolute evil.
      In the titles of Western games, I often see Russian and Ukrainian surnames. Apparently all the talented programmers and game designers have long moved to the West.
      1. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 27 October 2019 16: 53
        0
        you are very, very wrong ... BTV and the IL-2 series ... Blitzkrieg (where there are opuses about the fact that when three tanks go to the trenches of the Canadian and Australian infantry ... it runs) ... you just need to stop releasing games. .. you can here in Syria)
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 11
          0
          Quote: silberwolf88
          VTV and IL-2 series ... Blitzkrieg
          I asked to call me a shooter (in the first person), and not a flight simulator and strategy.
          Quote: silberwolf88
          just need to stop releasing games
          And who will do this? And for what money?
      2. maidan.izrailovich
        maidan.izrailovich 28 October 2019 05: 16
        +1
        So name at least one solid shooter created in Russia.

        It is necessary to finance such projects.
        No order, no product.
        Capitalism however.
        By the way, such financing could be undertaken by the state. At the first stage. And there you look and the private investor will catch up.
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    4. Lapunevsky
      Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 14: 45
      0
      A whole corporation with a thousand classified employees, highly paid programmers and others works for this game. In Russia, is there really anyone who wants to spend millions of dollars on what will then be banned from sale in the West and generally on the Internet, and after that they will also impose sanctions against the developer?
    5. Maalkavianin
      Maalkavianin 27 October 2019 17: 15
      0
      The main thing is not programmers, the main thing is ideas. Now it’s hard to come up with something new. And even more difficult to come up with something that would draw the audience to our igrodelov.
    6. dauria
      dauria 27 October 2019 21: 19
      -1
      You just need to fill up the world with games where Americans are an absolute evil.


      Well, Russia is not up to it. At the initial stage, huge money is needed, there are no specialists, our market is mostly pirate. But I don’t understand why China doesn’t pay attention to it. It's time for them to get out on the world market with some "War ...."
    7. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 27 October 2019 22: 35
      -2
      Can release a "game" about our (USSR) fighters in Korea or our (USSR) air defense in Vietnam - shoot down 15 "vultures" (US aircraft) get a Hero Star - become a Hero twice or three times good
  12. kiril1246
    kiril1246 27 October 2019 14: 03
    -5
    The machinations of Israel
  13. d.olegov44
    d.olegov44 27 October 2019 14: 04
    -26
    When the nightingale litter with jelly in the evening shows how they will bomb California, it is strange to expect another game from the Americans.
    1. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 14: 12
      -21
      Can not argue with that drinks
  14. Prisoner
    Prisoner 27 October 2019 14: 07
    +9
    In real life, their filthy snouts cleaned them, so at least to get back in toys.
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      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 27 October 2019 14: 46
        +11
        Do not poke the elders, jerk.
      2. silberwolf88
        silberwolf88 27 October 2019 16: 55
        0
        in real life for the first and second, I cleaned all the snouts there enough ... including being in the overwhelming minority and with strange actions by the leadership)))
    2. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 14: 53
      -12
      And who is the hero or the city?
      1. Prisoner
        Prisoner 27 October 2019 14: 55
        +6
        Looks like a vacation at shkolota.
  15. Rusik.S
    Rusik.S 27 October 2019 14: 07
    +9
    Many still believe that games are exclusively for children. This is not true. Today, video games are played by people of all ages. And the gaming industry has become an excellent propaganda weapon. Therefore, instead of allocating money for any nonsense, you need to start supporting Russian game developers. While we are tight with this. And yet, in no case do you need to ban a new COD in Russia, because this will only lead to negative consequences. On TV, too, do not talk about her, just pretend that she is not. PS Judging by the reviews on the metacritic, not only Russian-speaking players are unhappy.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 23
      -3
      Yes bullshit. The excitement around the game has already made her a good advertisement. There are not so many patriots, most players will buy it anyway (or download from torrents, which is most likely) and will complete the game. Millions of sales are provided to her.
      1. Rusik.S
        Rusik.S 27 October 2019 14: 31
        +8
        I don’t know, I don’t know ... Many streamers refused to stream it. Yes, and as I said, the reaction of metacritics is rather bright, the rating was rolled up to 3.1, and this is in one day
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 42
          -3
          Pfft, those to whom the computer will allow will not watch streams and spoil their impression. They themselves will go through the game and draw conclusions. In the end, the Russians were portrayed as enemies in the old parts of Modern Warfare, and in Battlefield, and many other places. I don’t remember that game sales suffered greatly from this, including in Russia. Look, even in the "popular" series of Metro games based on the books of Glukhovsky, Ukrainian developers have repeatedly inserted minor jokes about Russia, but they still love the game.
          By the way, the game has multiplayer, where you can kick the back of the Americans. laughing
          1. Antares
            Antares 27 October 2019 19: 33
            0
            Quote: Greenwood
            By the way, the game has multiplayer, where you can kick back point to Americans

            Well, even the US Air Force doesn’t always blame the Generals.
          2. Jack O'Neill
            Jack O'Neill 28 October 2019 03: 49
            -1
            In the end, the Russians were portrayed as enemies in the old parts of Modern Warfare, and in Battlefield, and many more.

            Recall the same MW2 with a mission at the airport. The mission, by the way, was cut out from us.
            And the plot is cranberry. But that did not stop MW2 from becoming a great game.
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 29 October 2019 15: 02
              0
              I went through the torrent edition version laughing where the level at the airport was present. Incidentally, he impressed at that moment. Prior to this, no one allowed himself to show a terrorist act in such detail, leisurely and with relish.
              Quote: Jack O'Neill
              But that did not stop MW2 from becoming a great game.
              I agree. MW3 came out an order of magnitude weaker, some developers seemed to quit due to a conflict with the publisher, and the game could no longer keep the level of dramaturgy and plot tension at the level of the previous two.
      2. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 28 October 2019 03: 47
        -4
        There are not so many patriots, most players will buy it anyway (or download from torrents, which is most likely) and will complete the game. Millions of sales are provided to her.

        CoD has always been popular.
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 14: 47
      -1
      Quote: Rusik.S
      need to start supporting Russian game developers

      here you already need to support the army and prepare to strengthen the areas
  16. Armata T-14
    Armata T-14 27 October 2019 14: 12
    +11
    Someone playing this shit?
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 23
      -2
      Many who, this is Kolda. Just like in Batlu.
    2. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 14: 55
      -10
      The whole civilized world, as it were.
      1. Tank hard
        Tank hard 27 October 2019 20: 48
        +3
        Quote: Crash
        The whole civilized world, as it were.

        Quote: Crash
        civilized

        Albanian American? laughing
  17. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 27 October 2019 14: 18
    0
    let the fat-ass play until the reality show arrives then start hiding behind bullets with laptops
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 34
      -2
      Quote: Ryaruav
      reality show hasn’t come
      If a reality show arrives, there will be no winners or losers. No one will gloat.
    2. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 15: 16
      -4
      There, every second, as you say "fat-ass" personal weapon on hand has more than one. So, it is not yet known who else will hide behind.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 29
        -3
        By the way, yes, aptly noticed. They have hundreds of millions of small arms in their hands, all around are shooting galleries and shooting circles. So the people there are not only sitting on the couch with a burger.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 27 October 2019 16: 19
          +4
          Quote: Greenwood
          the people there are not only sitting on the couch with a burger.

          Right And regularly, once a week and more often, they arrange the shooting of fellow citizens. Today - again. This time in Texas. yes
          1. Crash
            Crash 27 October 2019 16: 51
            -4
            Sick people have always had enough. But this does not negate the fact that with so many weapons in the hands of the population, these cases are crossed on the fingers of 2 hands in a year.
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 27 October 2019 20: 49
              +2
              Quote: Crash
              these cases are crossed on the fingers of 2 hands per year.

              To tears! laughing
          2. Greenwood
            Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 12
            +3
            Quote: Paranoid50
            Today - again. This time in Texas.
            We have a soldier of colleagues fired, then what ?!
        2. silberwolf88
          silberwolf88 27 October 2019 16: 58
          0
          for all sorts of "cockerels on a stick" ... this is not a war with .... to go to the shooting gallery ... from the bursting of a shell next to you try to change diapers)))
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 28 October 2019 08: 36
          +1
          Greenwood Here, it is almost impossible for some fellow citizens to prove anything. request
          Greetings, Kamrad! drinks
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 29 October 2019 06: 52
            +1
            Greetings! hi People simply develop paranoia on the basis of anti-Americanism. They cannot perceive the surrounding reality without the prism of "enemies are all around, everyone wants to defeat us, liberals, Navalny ... AAAAAAAAAA !!" lol
  18. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 27 October 2019 14: 19
    +3
    And Che so "to steam"? They cannot win in real life, they win in movies and games.
  19. Greenwood
    Greenwood 27 October 2019 14: 27
    0
    Nothing new. Exactly 10 years ago, there was a similar scandal with the "Not a word in Russian" level in Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. The Russian edition removed the level with the shooting of civilians at the Moscow airport, some deputy demanded to ban the game, in the end everything, who wanted, the game was bought, downloaded and played. Her sales were colossal. Although in fairness, the Americans were exposed as big bastards, whose corrupt general betrayed the allies for his own ambitions. Here, as I understand it, they decided to launch all the dogs on the Russians.
    It’s a pity that our game industry is actually dead, just like the film industry. There is nothing to answer.
  20. igorlvov
    igorlvov 27 October 2019 14: 29
    +2
    it's time to release the Russian version of the stalker with ami zombies
  21. Lapunevsky
    Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 14: 42
    -6
    Russian teenagers between the ages of 7 and 45 years do not give a damn about who to play in the bulletin board, to kill their own (Russian) and to play as American heroes. The main thing for them is to populate for several evenings and then drip saliva on the keyboard from the passed game. In Russia, just no one will refuse to play, they will even buy for the full price, without waiting for the pirate's bay on the mirror torrents.
    1. Tank hard
      Tank hard 27 October 2019 20: 53
      +2
      Quote: Lapunevsky
      Russian teenagers between the ages of 7 and 45 do not care at all about who to play in the bulletin board, to kill their own (Russian) and play as American heroes. The main thing for them is to populate for several evenings and then drip saliva on the keyboard from the passed game. In Russia, just no one will give up the game, even for the full price they will buy, without waiting for the pirate bay to mirror torrents

      Speak for yourself ... Not for everyone.
      1. Lapunevsky
        Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 23: 51
        -4
        I speak for everyone, because I know what I am saying. Every second person in Russia played all those parts of this and other similar games where he calmly shot at the Russians. And he didn't pretend to be a super patriot. Because for all normal people - a game is a game and nothing more. In the same "World of Tanks" - millions of players from Russia play German tanks and self-propelled guns, destroying Soviet tanks - are they all not patriots either? Are Arma players and others all enemies of the people?
        1. vadimtt
          vadimtt 28 October 2019 07: 35
          +2
          I have never played wot or cod, what am I doing wrong? )))
          But I confess, I played in flash point and a little in arma, but scored because of a veiled, but obvious anti-Russian bias. I prefer neutral stories, from my favorite ones - EVE Online and MechWarrior Online (in the last, after work, I still drive instead of beer. Eve is rejected, because starting with the alliance flotcom of the capflot requires a complete rejection of real life). Well, all sorts of toys on the universe WH40K))
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 29 October 2019 15: 05
            0
            Quote: vadimtt
            I prefer neutral stories, from my favorite ones - EVE Online and MechWarrior Online (in the last, after work, I still drive instead of beer. Eve is rejected, because starting with the alliance flotcom of the capflot requires a complete rejection of real life). Well, all sorts of toys on the universe WH40K))
            This is fantastic and fantasy, moreover, with an emphasis on online. Not everyone loves that. For example, I do not like all these online games. I like games with a plot close to reality, including military-political conflicts. A kind of interactive movie, where you yourself in the role of GG.
      2. Lapunevsky
        Lapunevsky 27 October 2019 23: 51
        -4
        And don't poke me, pseudo-patriot. You will poke your son.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 28 October 2019 08: 06
          +3
          Quote: Lapunevsky
          And don't poke me, pseudo-patriot. Son your poke will

          Ek got blown up ... laughing
          1. Lapunevsky
            Lapunevsky 28 October 2019 18: 49
            -3
            I would answer, but the moderators are here
  22. Barmaleyka
    Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 14: 46
    -1
    mattresses openly preparing for war, I think 24 year is an ideal time
    1. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 14: 57
      -11
      Already ready to flee into the voomat in the event of an act of congression?
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 16: 40
        +1
        Quote: Crash
        Already ready to flee into the voomat in the event of an act of congression?

        I don’t have time for me to border 20 km in a straight line, but to the military enlistment office
        one way - to the forest
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 32
      -5
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      openly preparing for war
      Preparing for war? And what, in order to launch numerous ICBMs, it takes years of preparation? It seems a matter of several minutes (seconds).
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 16: 42
        0
        Quote: Greenwood
        To launch numerous ICBMs, do you need years of preparation?

        firstly, they rely either on a limited nuclear conflict or without it at all, secondly what is happening now is called training the population, we are made of monsters against whom everything and everyone can
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 27 October 2019 16: 39
      0
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      mattresses openly preparing for war, I think 24 year is an ideal time

      Game
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 16: 43
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        Game

        disprove me and justify your opinion
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 27 October 2019 21: 00
          +1
          Quote: Barmaleyka
          disprove me and justify your opinion

          A voluntary assistant to the US State Department in this case, can only put you a minus. lol
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 28 October 2019 08: 28
      +1
      Barmaleyka What war? Who is the war with? What do they want from us?
      If you are talking about fossils, so we ourselves will gladly give them all for their own candy wrappers, on their own terms, and we invest candy wrappers in their own economy.
      Territory? And you try to make the residents of the states or Europe live in the Russian castle! In the mud, without roads, with a wood-burning stove and an unheated closet under the condition of an 8-month winter.
      Well, why should they fight?
  23. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 27 October 2019 14: 49
    -1
    Quote: Proxima
    vomit falls upon us from the boxes, do not want to put a ban?

    How can you say that? And if in response to such a grudge our lockers will lock up on Sberbank? God forbid this night to see .... SIPHTU shut me down? I don’t know how often it is, but the horror comes into my brain from this unimaginable! So no!
    Be patient! Comrade daragoy! And God forbid you to shake this "vomit mass" off yourself .... Previously, as it was: walking, sorry, a citizen with a maghendroid plaque ... for sure - he is not our nation. Hebrew will not wear such a badge? And if a citizen crawls out from under the TV set all in the trash - yes, he is Russian - Russian! Don't go to the fortuneteller.
    Chubais and Gref know everything.
  24. Ezekiel 25-17
    Ezekiel 25-17 27 October 2019 14: 55
    -2
    So this: we have good online games in Russia: the same World of Warschips, WarTunder is there, by the way, a degree of hatred is quite present. If properly corrected, then the Yankees there will also become an absolute evil.
    1. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 15: 20
      -7
      I also found good games, would not be dishonored at least. And the Belarusians released the same WOW, but we are now sort of establishing contacts with America, so by.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 34
        -1
        Quote: Ezekiel 25-17
        World of warschips
        The Belarusians did the series "World of ..."
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 27 October 2019 16: 32
          -1
          Belarusians are native, the office has long been in Cyprus.
          1. Crash
            Crash 27 October 2019 16: 53
            -1
            For, he would have squeezed the AHL office, there are enough examples in the country.
    2. Edmond dantes
      Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 11: 52
      0
      World of warships Belarusian
  25. DrVintorez
    DrVintorez 27 October 2019 15: 00
    -4
    who wanted to see what he saw.
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  27. Nycomed
    Nycomed 27 October 2019 15: 12
    +1
    I'm not a big fan of games, but Operation Flashpoint I personally liked it. request
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 37
      -1
      Try the ARMA series of games. The ideological successor. True eo is just a simulator, and not an arcade action movie like a spell. Running like a Rambo with a machine gun and carrying out stacks of enemy soldiers will not work. lol
      1. Jack O'Neill
        Jack O'Neill 28 October 2019 04: 00
        -4
        Try the ARMA series of games. The ideological successor. True eo is just a simulator, and not an arcade action movie like a spell. Running like a Rambo with a machine gun and carrying out stacks of enemy soldiers will not work. lol

        Download the RHS mod, in the editor put the Russians and Amers against each other (on Altis, as an example).
        After starting the topic that who shoots at his (Russian) - that traitor. Anyway, how could he? ..
        Oh, Bozechki, I played today as amerskih infantry on the "Locked" map against the Russians in BF4.
        Ohh, I have no forgiveness! How many souls of compatriots have I destroyed! laughing
  28. AVA77
    AVA77 27 October 2019 15: 14
    +4
    sabotage (Dmitry)
    Quote: sabotage
    Quote: gafarovsafar
    and probably some gamers from Russia abandoned the game

    Already downloading in Steam

    Heidcrab caught?
  29. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 27 October 2019 15: 20
    +7
    Even before the war in Donbass, I was spitting on the plot of "Kalovdutia". Now even more so, but there are also fabulous personalities who like this anal eructation instead of the plot.
    I'm so sorry
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 40
      -1
      The first parts (which were about the Second World War) are quite cool for the beginning of the zero. I remember passed binge. Yes, and the old series of Modern Warfare at one time looked very fresh, because no one had yet done shooters on the topic of modern war between superpowers. This was later joined by Battlefield, Medal of Honor, even the Polish Sniper, and all kinds of Homefront there. Kolda of course slipped in terms of plot and overall level of performance.
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Now even more so, but there are fabulous personalities who like this anal burp instead of the plot.
      I'm so sorry
      Okay Which of the new recommend? It is on the topic of military-political conflicts.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 27 October 2019 18: 21
        +1
        I'd rather play with fantasy computer toys, good enough than on the topic of fictional military-political conflicts, in "good Yankees and nasty Russians."
  30. Corn
    Corn 27 October 2019 15: 22
    -4
    So, in this series of games, Russians were almost always enemies, there is nothing new.
    And so, the toy is quite normal, an excellent action movie and its own 2k rubles is quite worth it.
  31. edeligor
    edeligor 27 October 2019 15: 24
    +7
    This is not "soft power" at all, this is pure preparation for real combat operations. Look at how the second world war began, I mean the documentary. The very first thing to do is dehumanize the enemy. Which happens almost in real time. I am generally surprised that our state swallows this pill in silence. And whoever shakes this agitation is just a traitor who does not remember kinship.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 15: 42
      -3
      Quote: edeligor
      it is a pure preparation for real hostilities.
      Which ones? The fighting between NATO (USA) and Russia will be conducted through ICBMs and cruise missiles. Or do you still think in World War II patterns?
      1. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 17: 14
        -1
        Quote: Greenwood
        Or do you still think in World War II patterns?

        you would like to read the ideas of the Amerian generals and the tops they just want a limited conflict
        Yes, and a nuclear response from us will be if the leadership of the Russian Federation is not afraid, but imagine a situation when the authorities have a cloud in their pants like humpbacks
  32. signifera
    signifera 27 October 2019 15: 29
    +5
    Well. We need to release a game of this level ourselves. And put the Americans there as terrorists. Who is stopping us? He loved this shooter, went through the first parts several times, even from the landing in Normandy, but in each subsequent we more and more became bandits and terrorists. I didn’t play anymore. Although, for most players it’s deeply even who is who, the main thing is the battle itself, many do not delve into it. But there are still games where good Russians defeat American terrorists. Sudden strike 3D Reload. Strategy. About our time. There are GRU special forces and troops and motorized rifles in the Tajik region. Heaped up on American expeditionary units. The game is not just stupid in a heap, but with a smart pause, it’s just that everything will go on for a couple of minutes of battle, then all the corpses. Pretty complicated. You can catch ATGM in the stern and minus the tank. Now there are analogues about Syria. Syrian Warfare. There is an addition - a return to Palmyra and so on. I haven’t played yet before, but judging by the pictures and videos, everything will be there as it should, the Russian Federation and the SAA will be smashed by American proteges.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 19
      0
      This is all RTS. RTS does not require an elaborate plot, cinematic cut scenes, millions of dollars of development, expensive engines, hundreds of developers. Where are our first-person shooters? These are real problems.
      1. Antares
        Antares 27 October 2019 21: 46
        +1
        Quote: Greenwood
        This is all RTS

        everything goes on the RTS with cranberries (evil Russians)
        since the time of Red Alert, it could not be otherwise there. (stereotype image)
        Terrible "Russians" who sweep away everything here and there with their tanks. And they always win. laughing
      2. Edmond dantes
        Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 11: 58
        0
        Tell This Blizzard With Their Star Craft
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 29 October 2019 15: 16
          -2
          And do you know a lot of domestic Starcraft level games with the same audience?
          1. Edmond dantes
            Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 17: 59
            0
            The comment was not about numbers, but about systematic screensavers.
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  34. albert
    albert 27 October 2019 15: 57
    +3
    I watched the video to the end. The game shows the so-called "white helmets", which are prohibited in Russia. What is not a reason to ban the game?
    PS. I played only in the first three parts of the conjure, dedicated to the Second World War. Then the series rolled down, not like cranberries, but into the legends of Dr. Goebbels.
  35. Sarduor
    Sarduor 27 October 2019 15: 57
    0
    Well, who would doubt it!
  36. anjey
    anjey 27 October 2019 15: 59
    +3
    The Americans, the British, and the Arab fighters collaborating with them, massively killing Russians, on the contrary, are exposed as real heroes,
    To hell with this disgusting game, maybe even thanks to it, so to speak, the property of "reverse effect" in life, contrary to the fantasies of enemies, Russians will be real people and heroes ...
  37. Kelwin
    Kelwin 27 October 2019 16: 14
    +1
    Yes, and do not care, in principle. Firstly, this is not particularly surprising, and it used to be, at one time Red Alert made fun, secondly, the game was interesting only to the fans of the series, and there weren’t so many real fans, and thirdly, after a while this approach crossed the snout will go when half the population begins to look for a bubble of sedative at the mention of Russian. And in general, thought is material ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: KelWin
      but not so many real fans
      See the sales statistics for any of the games in the series. There are millions of copies. The Call of Duty series is a real cash cow for Activision, they will milk it for a long time, releasing endless remakes of Modern Warfare and parts about the Second World War. Electronic Arts with its Battlefield has also slipped there.
      1. Kelwin
        Kelwin 27 October 2019 19: 50
        0
        Quote: Greenwood
        View sales statistics for any of the games in the series.

        I agree, but, IMHO, the sales statistics reflect a relative level of interest, many bought, played and forgot, like me, for example, and some of my friends. It’s just that there isn’t much to play, that's what we buy, purely for the sake of fresh. And after three days, we again sit in Ayan or Eve. Yes, and the storyline is not interesting to everyone, skipanul and battle)
  38. GibSoN
    GibSoN 27 October 2019 16: 33
    -7
    The news from the section did not play - but I condemn! Under the joyful stuffing of the media, there is a fierce discussion of the fact that none of those discussing has played or passed! Ingenious! 21 century. Why do people need brains at all ... for them, and so anyone can think.
    Regarding the theme of the game. That is, when the Americans, bring down some kind of bad Russian dude with their army, this is an attempt on all Russian !!! 111! 1! And when the Russians are knocking down their own Russians, explaining that they are CTOs, militants, terrorists, bad guys, bandits, etc. .. is everything all right ?! Well, yes .. What can I say. Someone pulled out of context .. lifted a hype and obviously, not without personal gain. And all together shouting Ur and support. Who does not like, do not play! Nobody forces you! Everything is simple here. Pig, find dirt everywhere.
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 17: 59
      +2
      Quote: GibSoN
      The news from the section did not play - but I condemn! Under the joyful stuffing of the media, there is a fierce discussion of the fact that none of those discussing has played or passed!

      you really need to sit down a whole bunch of crap to understand that there wasn’t any need or enough to smell
    2. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 00
      +2
      Quote: GibSoN
      And when the Russians are knocking down their own Russians, explaining that they are CTOs, militants, terrorists, bad guys, bandits, etc. .. is everything all right ?!

      fool
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  40. DeathFromBelow
    DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 16: 40
    +5
    Wow, even registered for this.
    Russia was not shown particularly good in games before, but in this game they directly outdid everything that was before. Especially considering the fact that the developers themselves positioned the game as a game about modern military operations with gray morality. And in the end, the moral is clearly brown and smeared with it is clear who.
    A bunch of senseless cruelty, war crimes and, attention, attribution of US crimes to the Russian army. Perfectly.
    But I don’t see the point of banning. This campaign is still aimed at the western consumer.
    I will assume that this is the next stage in the formation of a mass stereotype for the subsequent stages of the information war. If earlier they formed the stereotype that Russian = bad and with the help of this they hang on us, allegedly, atrocities against Afghans, Chechens, Ukrainians and so on, now this is the stage Russians = worse than terrorists. If such a stereotype is entrenched in the minds, new accusations can fly towards Russia for anything. I hope I'm just mistaken, but the fact that the CIA people advised the developers on writing the plot is a fact from the developers themselves.
    1. GibSoN
      GibSoN 27 October 2019 16: 49
      -8
      but in this game
      Already bought and passed?
      attribution of US crimes to the Russian army
      Well, yes, for the entire time the Russian army has been in Syria, haven't any of the civilians been hurt? Or according to your logic, in Syria there is only legitimate authority and terrorists? Apparently for this Assad could not defeat them for so many years that he called for help from the Russian Federation? What nonsense! You have your own truth. Someone has their own. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Everything is simple. If in this game, the Russians would kill with packs of Americans, they all clapped their hands ...
      1. DeathFromBelow
        DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 17: 00
        +7
        Already bought and passed?

        YouTube Edition. To understand the plot, this is enough.
        Well, yes, for the entire time the Russian army has been in Syria, haven't any of the civilians been hurt? Or according to your logic, in Syria there is only legitimate authority and terrorists? Apparently for this Assad could not defeat them for so many years that he called for help from the Russian Federation? What nonsense! You have your own truth. Someone has their own. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Everything is simple. If in this game, the Russians would kill with packs of Americans, they all clapped their hands ...

        Do not give out your thoughts for my words. In this game, Russian aggression is not motivated by the word at all. Russians are evil because they are evil.
        And no one says that our cute and fluffy, but the framework must also have. Americans in the game are white knights at 95%, and the remaining 5% of evil is done in the name of salvation and with deep regret for the deed. Russians are worse than the Nazis and no one regrets anything.
        Well, about the attribution of events. The game has a road of death, which was set up by the Russians. In reality, the USA. In the game, the Russians use chemical weapons against the civilian population. In reality, the United States - Vietnam and Orange - caught this one. Russians are also hanging people with a crane. In reality, this was done by "peaceful rebels" supported by the United States.
        1. GibSoN
          GibSoN 27 October 2019 17: 11
          -9
          YouTube Edition. To understand the plot, this is enough.
          Have a complete walkthrough?
          Russians are evil because they are evil.
          Read komenty on this resource. I'm shocked myself! For an unprepared person, one gets the impression that yes, the whole WORLD is in the dust for real ... for the sake of .. xs.
          Americans in the game white knights 95%
          Well, as if in 99% of cases, who orders one and dances, no? Or is it news and sensation for you?
          There is a road of death in the game that the Russians arranged. In reality, the United States.
          Where can I get detailed, officially and reliably acquainted with the facts on this topic?
          In the game, Russians use chemical weapons against civilians. In reality, the USA - Vietnam and Orange caught it.
          Interesting .. and what has Syria, for example, and modern times? Let's go deeper! In Afghanistan, the USSR also used chemical weapons. In Chechnya and in Syria as well, not the most humane weapon of the "volumetric explosion" type was used. And the fact that it seems that 1 terrorist has at least a family, which can be generally liberal ())))) views, few are interested)) In general, the story of how to suck out of the finger what is not even a concept do you have .. Do you, in general, imagine what a war or hostilities are? Well, at least 30%?
          1. DeathFromBelow
            DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 17: 28
            +4
            Quote: GibSoN
            Have a complete walkthrough?

            A bunch of channels. Streamers who collaborated with the developers deleted their broadcasts, but completely independent. I looked at the Gideon Canal.
            Read komenty on this resource. I'm shocked myself! For an unprepared person, one gets the impression that yes, the whole WORLD is in the dust for real ... for the sake of .. xs.

            I do not particularly read the comments. From all that I read here, Rosguard is periodically dragged into a topic and not a topic and minus those who say that Russia does not need an aircraft carrier from the word at all.
            I read comments on videos about COD in the English segment, and there, the players there also did not quite enjoy the game. Like, they were promised a gray morality, and again they gave bad Russians.
            Well, as if in 99% of cases, who orders one and dances, no? Or is it news and sensation for you?

            Not news. It's just that the scale of lies and hypocrisy is still striking.
            Where can I get detailed, officially and reliably acquainted with the facts on this topic?

            It is enough to drive "Death Highway" into the search bar and you can be lost in information for a couple of hours.
            Interesting .. and what has Syria, for example, and modern times? Let's go deeper! In Afghanistan, the USSR also used chemical weapons. In Chechnya and in Syria as well, not the most humane weapon of the "volumetric explosion" type was used. And the fact that it seems that 1 terrorist has at least a family, which can be generally liberal ())))) views, few are interested)) In general, the story of how to suck out of the finger what is not even a concept do you have .. Do you, in general, imagine what a war or hostilities are? Well, at least 30%?

            But the conflict in Syria is not a modern war?
            Personally, I do not know anything about cases of the use of chemical weapons in the Afghan war. If you give a source of this information, I will be grateful.
            Volumetric blast ammunition is not a prohibited weapon. And the concept of "humane weapon" is not clear to me at all. Is white phosphorus a humane weapon? RPO humane weapon? Is the AK a humane weapon?
            About the war I have an idea from the stories. And there is no need to suck out of the fingers. You just need to look at what is attributed to us in this game and who does it. And everything is clear. If this is normal for you and you don’t see anything in it - your right.
            1. GibSoN
              GibSoN 27 October 2019 17: 36
              -9
              About the war I have an idea from the stories. And there is no need to suck out of the fingers.

              You just need to look at what is attributed to us in this game and who does it. And everything is clear.
              Well, that is, you have not heard stories that, for example, in Chechnya, they forced you to dig a hole for yourself, and then threw a grenade there? That is, is everything normal?
              Is AK a humane weapon?
              It is necessary to ask the Chinese. They are the only ones to use it at an official level, demonstrating on central television. But in general, several simultaneous shots at vital organs .. well, probably more humane than ...
              If this is normal for you and you don’t see anything in it - your right.
              It is not normal. Just like killing zombies in a game. Actually, the whole difference is what human instincts are trying to cover up. What worries me more is not the game in which you need someone to kill someone. And the everyday discussion of real people, who almost with flags, almost urge (though why ...) to kill other people!
              1. DeathFromBelow
                DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 17: 49
                +3
                Well, that is, you have not heard stories that, for example, in Chechnya, they forced you to dig a hole for yourself, and then threw a grenade there? That is, is everything normal?

                I've "heard" a lot. But the source of the "One grandmother said" level is not serious. About the mining of corpses I read straightforward articles with analysis, about severed heads, about "we are not taking prisoner" and so on. I take this into account, not at face value.
                And you are taking the conversation away from the topic to the edge of discussions about the horrors of war. And we are discussing a work of art from which no one demands ultra-realism and a documentary basis underneath. But, if you position your product as an unbiased and bitter truth, then you will get criticism of the final product, in which there is nothing promised.
                It is necessary to ask the Chinese. They are the only ones to use it at an official level, demonstrating on central television. But in general, several simultaneous shots at vital organs .. well, probably more humane than ...

                You have not given a decoding of the term "Humane weapon". From a conditional BOV you die immediately, and a bullet from an AK can hit the stomach and you will lie and slowly die in agony. Where is humanism here?
                And the everyday discussion of real people, who almost with flags, almost urge (though why ...) to kill other people!

                On the strength of a couple of percent of people with a spoiled psyche. Most do not.
                Can still provide official documents?

                Since you are arguing something, then apparently you have arguments in favor of your position? Even the recollections of eyewitnesses. Or are you just telling tales?
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                  1. DeathFromBelow
                    DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 18: 04
                    +4
                    Well then, what are we discussing at all?]

                    I talked about the fact that in a single game, Russia was credited with the crimes that the USA itself actually committed. Then there are divination and assumptions.
                    Apparently you meant to bring eyewitnesses here personally? Or what? Why in general about eyewitnesses?]

                    To what you said
                    Apparently you meant to bring eyewitnesses here personally? Or what? Why in general about eyewitnesses?
                    . I asked you for the source of this information, because I hear about it for the first time. Maybe documents confirming the use of such weapons, maybe some recollections of eyewitnesses to the use of such weapons. At least something.
                  2. Barmaleyka
                    Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 23
                    +1
                    Quote: GibSoN
                    Maybe you can put my entire biography here

                    and what, is there something to hide?
              2. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 24
                +1
                Quote: GibSoN
                Well, that is, you have not heard stories about

                we heard a lot of things from Solzhenitsyn (not remembered by night), there wasn’t only truth
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 27 October 2019 17: 36
            +4
            Quote: GibSoN
            In Afghanistan, the USSR also used chemical weapons.

            Where exactly can you tell?
            1. GibSoN
              GibSoN 27 October 2019 17: 38
              -8
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Where exactly can you tell?

              Can still provide official documents?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 27 October 2019 18: 11
                +7
                Quote: GibSoN
                Can still provide official documents?
                Go ahead. Just do not find it.
                You’d even tell me a couple of places where we used OM in Afghanistan.
              2. Barmaleyka
                Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 23
                +4
                Well, if you make such accusations, then at least references to eyewitnesses are needed
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            2. MORDVIN13rus
              MORDVIN13rus 27 October 2019 18: 49
              +4
              Well, his business is to blurt out the current, and then even though the grass does not grow laughing Greetings to the land!
          3. lucul
            lucul 27 October 2019 17: 55
            +1
            And the fact that with every 1 terrorist, there is at least a family that can be generally liberal ())))) views, few people are interested))

            Well, Israel is shelling Palestine, despite the fact that "as it seems, 1 terrorist has at least a family"
          4. Barmaleyka
            Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 26
            +3
            Quote: GibSoN
            In Afghanistan, the USSR also used chemical weapons.

            where (settlement (s)), when (year, month, date), what kind of OM was used ?!
      2. Barmaleyka
        Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 35
        +1
        Quote: GibSoN
        If in this game, the Russians would kill with packs of Americans, they all clapped their hands ...

        I wouldn’t care, but the fact that they kill Russians is not
    2. Crash
      Crash 27 October 2019 16: 55
      -4
      Your nickname in Steam, please, otherwise you surrender stories here.
      1. DeathFromBelow
        DeathFromBelow 27 October 2019 17: 09
        +2
        And what about Steam?
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 27 October 2019 17: 24
        0
        There is not her in Steam yet. Just checked.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 27 October 2019 17: 14
      +3
      Quote: DeathFromBelow
      Once such a stereotype is reinforced in the minds, new accusations can fly towards Russia for anything.

      At the same time, a post such as yours will slightly, but also slow down the flight of these accusations of Russian strona yes .
    4. Edmond dantes
      Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 12: 23
      +1
      There wasn’t quite a miserable WWII 2 strategy where our soldiers allegedly burned civilians from flamethrowers.
  41. Olfred
    Olfred 27 October 2019 17: 13
    +1
    It is strange why active VO commentators missed the release of Battlefield 5 - a game about the Second World War, and as if hinting at historicity but ... it represents Britain along with France, against the evil Germans ... And where is the Red Army (USSR) asked? ! Where are the weapons, where are the tanks, etc., and at least mention of some kind of battle?
    As they did not notice, here our History was not simply changed, it was simply ignored as if there was no such horror ...
    My IMHO - if corrected (added) in additions - maybe I will change my mind ... But the game will remain a game hi
    1. Barmaleyka
      Barmaleyka 27 October 2019 18: 18
      0
      Quote: OlfRed
      It is strange why active commentators in VO missed the release of Battlefield 5

      I’ll tell you more, I missed the first one laughing
      1. Olfred
        Olfred 27 October 2019 18: 32
        0
        Congratulations or condolences laughing Well, at least in 1 battle is presented
        The Russian empire, and the map is the Brusilov fortified area ...
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 28 October 2019 06: 58
          +2
          The most epic in Bad Company 2, where "evil Russia" captures almost the entire world. The game ends with the Russian invasion of Canada through Alaska with an unknown ending.
          1. Olfred
            Olfred 29 October 2019 12: 40
            0
            Yes exactly! How could I forget ?! I also remembered the game: Resistance: Fall of Man where the Russians generally turned into monsters and attacked Europe laughing hi
  42. Rusticolus
    Rusticolus 27 October 2019 17: 19
    +4
    And how is that option? The court convicts the studio and the publisher of the extremism article, and lists them as banned organizations. And then some kind of Vasya Pupkin takes on the game, exchanges green helmets for green berets, red flags for star-striped, and with the protection removed, puts it in free and free access. Ah, yes, and some kind of Chinese should be pulled up to the heap, even if he pounds the same there for his own. And to answer any claims of copywriters - with representatives of extremist organizations we are not negotiating until they all serve their deadlines in Solikamsk zones. Beat the bourgeoisie in the most painful place, afford it. Let them answer ... out, Mikhalkov’s films are pirating. lol
    And then they survived. Here are some suckers and freaks, are ready to pay money for a tub of slops poured on them.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 29 October 2019 15: 24
      0
      Quote: Rusticolus
      And then some Vasya Pupkin kicks up the game, changes green helmets to green berets, red flags to star-striped, and with the protection removed, puts it in free and free access
      To change the texture in some games can any more or less pro-gamer who has a certain set of programs for editing the contents of the game. Another question is that the game itself, which is an interactive film, will not change, and the anti-Russian plot will also not go away. And beyond the hillock at your antics will point a finger and laugh, holding on to his stomach. Like, these Russians cannot do anything from scratch, they just redo our game.
  43. capsid
    capsid 27 October 2019 17: 22
    0
    All this is strange. And, so, a very good toy. I love the first and second part.
  44. Nikolay87
    Nikolay87 27 October 2019 17: 26
    0
    And before that, including in the battlefield, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc. were killed. and everything was fine)))
    1. MORDVIN13rus
      MORDVIN13rus 27 October 2019 18: 54
      +2
      I never played games where even under obscure names they were exposed as bad Soviet / Russian (Russian). Even World inConflict was held only for the USSR, although the game wasn’t without cranberries, the campaign for the USSR was a little pleasant, it was possible to pin a pin ---- owls. I prefer either RTS in fantastic realities or turn-based military-political strategies like HOI3-4
      1. Nikolay87
        Nikolay87 27 October 2019 19: 39
        +1
        And I probably never painted politically. Although I must admit that the older you get, the more "all this politics" affects you, the more often you pay attention to it. As if you are being personally insulted.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 29 October 2019 15: 28
      0
      Well, in general, in Battle there are several parts where Russian troops are the main enemy in the story. For example, the dilogy of Bad Company. Or Battlefield 3/4.
      1. region58
        region58 29 October 2019 22: 50
        0
        Quote: Greenwood
        Russian troops are the main enemy in the story

        However, there all the same there is almost purely military operations without any plot - this is the time, and, if you want, there is a right to choose who to play for - these are two.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 30 October 2019 08: 30
          0
          Nenene, I’m just talking about the storyline. Multiplayer does not make sense to mention. And in the story, Russia is just one of the main antagonists. Bad Company 2 at the very beginning shows how the Russian army is rapidly capturing the northern hemisphere. This is where the game begins.
          1. region58
            region58 30 October 2019 11: 46
            0
            Quote: Greenwood
            I'm just about the plot

            Yes, I somehow forgot that there is also a single ... hi
  45. Eugene (Eugene)
    Eugene (Eugene) 27 October 2019 18: 23
    +4
    For soldiers (bandits) from NATO and other "knowledgeable" European public to kill, rob, rape without remorse on the territory of Russia, when, in their opinion, the hour "H" comes to bring the "peacekeeping" contingent into the territory of the Russian Federation to "save the World", in view of the fact that turmoil began in Russia and there is a threat to the safety of nuclear facilities located in Russia, at the request of the "democratic liberal-immoral opposition of the Russian Federation." They need to prepare public opinion in Europe and in other "democratic countries" in order to kill Russians without remorse. Therefore, computer games, the machinations of the Vatican on "reforms of Christian values", the installation of the figure of a Soviet soldier (in Poland, a local
    blinded the figure of a Soviet soldier who rapes a pregnant lady) without remorse. And this is just part of the iceberg. Here are just ("mentally deprived") officials who steal and do not understand that they are aggravating the situation inside the Russian Federation, by their actions are laying "carpet paths" for the "NATO peacekeeping contingent." And remember about the youth ("Svidomo public") who play these games on a PC in Russia. So, before the start of the next war in Iraq, the Yankees, commissioned by the "owners of money", developed games for the PC where they kill bad Iraqis. There are games where the Yankees and the British fight against bad soldiers from Iran. On the face of their current geopolitical success in Ukraine. There are many examples. Remember Hitler as his advisers helped him in processing public opinion.
  46. impostor
    impostor 27 October 2019 18: 50
    +1
    What prevents 1C or Allods from showing Yankes in all its "splendor"?
    1. MORDVIN13rus
      MORDVIN13rus 27 October 2019 19: 09
      +1
      The game will receive maximum distribution only on the territory of the CIS, but maybe somewhere else in Asia and no more. And pin ---- sy with the court will be immediately served as an insult to the "true nation"
      1. impostor
        impostor 27 October 2019 19: 25
        0
        If you create a cool engine, then the distribution will be for pindos in anti-access and area denial. And Basmanny will send them on a journey on a journey, although it will not be easy to get the support of leading manufacturers of counts, but if you set a goal and look at it lard, and not to support all kinds of alpha groups ...
        1. MORDVIN13rus
          MORDVIN13rus 27 October 2019 19: 44
          +1
          So it is so, but neither our "highly respected government", nor everyone else, all this nafig is not needed. Give them the loot, and the fact that in the games our state and hawn interfere, so capitalism, freedom of choice. Something in China, none of the game makers pisses off, does not expose them to monsters. And all because such a scribe can arrange for all these stubs so that mom does not cry laughing laughing
          1. impostor
            impostor 27 October 2019 19: 52
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            I sincerely apologize, but I can’t continue the polemic on political topics, because the virtual entity will again be in the bathhouse, and re-logged into high hi
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 28 October 2019 07: 00
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      1C publisher. They do not seem to be directly involved in the development.
      1. impostor
        impostor 28 October 2019 18: 18
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        Offhand IL-2. Attack aircraft. Developer 1C: Maddox Games
  47. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 27 October 2019 19: 11
    +6
    Quote: lucul
    There 99% of the truth and only 1% of the lie

    Here is the proof of the total washing of the fragile brains of our compatriots by American propaganda.
    The article was 15 years late, at least.
    The entire Western gaming industry, with rare exceptions, is aimed at creating the image of the CCCR, the Russian Empire, the Russian Federation as a resident evil, and the opponent of Western heroes is a cross between Jack the Ripper and Dr. Mengele.
    The budget of modern games exceeds the budget of the most expensive blockbusters, the point impact is much deeper and more effective.
    But this is normal, they are preparing their youth for an irreconcilable fight against evil.
    So they show how this evil looks, what the color of the chevron on the sleeve of an enemy soldier, and how it can be killed.
    It is unacceptable that "our" compatriots can, and now it is also fashionable to hate their homeland. It is especially pleasant for them that they hate Russia for the money of ordinary people.
    Radio with a specific ethnic leadership, with the money of Gazprom (our everything) openly (announcers and invited guests) calls Crimea occupied.
  48. Alexey from Perm
    Alexey from Perm 27 October 2019 19: 32
    +1
    you need to make a game where the main enemies are amerikosy and, we will only play one in it)
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 27 October 2019 22: 59
      +1
      For example, about the 1999 war in Yugoslavia. We will defend Yugoslavia and retaliate against all of NATO ... good
    2. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 27 October 2019 23: 14
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      You can also create a "game" about the "Wild West" in which you can only play for the Apaches, Kamanches, Kiowa ... Mexicans (against the "Texan separatists"). For the British, you can create a game about the war against "American separatists" (events of 1775-1783). For the "white inhabitants" of the South of the United States, a game for the independence of the Confederation from the "tyranny" of the North (events of 1861-1864). For the Spaniards, the game against the United States in the 1898 war. For Filipinos, playing against the United States in the 1899-1902 war ... enough gameplay?
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 28 October 2019 07: 02
        +1
        Quote: cat Rusich
        enough game plots
        It's a nonsense. It remains to find a good development team with experience in creating an AAA-class product, a hundred million dollars budget and a publisher who agrees to put it on sale.
      2. Che Shirsky
        Che Shirsky 28 October 2019 10: 10
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        Quote: cat Rusich
        For the British, you can create a game about the war against "American separatists" (events of 1775-1783).
        So back in 1993, on Sega-16 bit, this came out, from KOEI. "Liberty or death" is called. There are equivalent scenarios for the United States and Britain. In the event of the victory of the Angles, there are even credits, in the spirit of alternative history.
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  50. Parvis rasulov
    Parvis rasulov 27 October 2019 20: 15
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    There is nothing surprising, the Russians in the guise of an enemy, you will not surprise anyone now, since in Russia, not once on the part of the official authorities, no one spoke out, so everyone uses it. I’ll give one example after leaving in Armagh about Takistan in Tajikistan, this game was immediately banned and MPs made an official note of protest to the US Embassy in Dushanbe, although the game was not banned, but Armak did not release more sequels on this subject.
    1. Edmond dantes
      Edmond dantes 28 October 2019 12: 30
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      Armah like Czech?
      1. Parvis rasulov
        Parvis rasulov 28 October 2019 15: 49
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        The point is not that the Czech army or someone else is there, but that the game was banned in one particular country. Imagine if Armu is banned in Russia tomorrow, I’m sure that the creators of Armagh will immediately remove all anti-Russian mods and games from their game. And the creators of Armagh know very well that their Armagh is kept afloat only thanks to Russian-speaking modders.
        1. Edmond dantes
          Edmond dantes 29 October 2019 09: 52
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          Just strange Tajiks, the Czechs made the game and a note of protest in the usa