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Vučić: Serbia wants to have C-400 in service, but so far cannot afford

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Serbia would like to have the Russian C-400 anti-aircraft missile system in service with its army, but so far it cannot afford it. This was stated by Serbian President Alexander Vučić.




The President of Serbia on Friday visited the Bataynitsa military airfield near Belgrade, which hosts the second stage of the Russian-Serbian exercises Slavic Shield-2019. Vucic got acquainted with the work of the calculations of the Russian S-400 air defense system and emphasized the desire to have such complexes in service with his army. According to him, Russian S-400 air defense systems can guarantee the protection of airspace. At the same time, he confirmed the purchase by Serbia of one Pantsir-S air defense missile system and regretted that currently Serbia was not in a position to purchase C-400.

When people ask what we would like - we would now like to allow ourselves to have C-400. But only if the Russians leave him to us, otherwise we cannot afford C-400. These are systems that guarantee security for your people and your country, for future generations, and if we can afford it one day, we will do it

- quotes the words of the Vucic Ministry of Defense of Serbia.

Earlier, the Russian Ministry of Defense announced the transfer to Serbia of the S-400 anti-aircraft systems battalion and the Panzir-S anti-aircraft missile-gun systems to participate in the second stage of the Slavic Shield-2019 air defense exercises of the two countries.

As it became known today from the message of the Russian military department, the calculations of S-400 air defense systems deployed the complex on the territory of the Bataynitsa airfield as part of the exercises, thereby completely covering the capital of Serbia and the central industrial region of Serbia from an air attack. On the part of Serbia, the exercises involved the calculations of the Neva-M1T and KUB-M anti-aircraft missile systems of the Air Force and Air Defense of Serbia.
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  1. figwam
    figwam 25 October 2019 17: 53
    +5
    Serbia wants to have the S-400 in service, but so far cannot afford

    1. Edik
      Edik 25 October 2019 18: 07
      -7
      I think this is not such a lot of money, if you count the possibilities and remember the story!
      1. Leeds
        Leeds 25 October 2019 18: 34
        -5
        We have a generous soul, we can give. How much do they need?
        1. Spartanez300
          Spartanez300 25 October 2019 18: 51
          +8
          To have a small base, I think it would not be bad to have there for the protection and our presence in this region.
          1. Amin_vivec
            Amin_vivec 25 October 2019 20: 43
            -3
            It’s interesting how, in complete encirclement, like West Berlin, will we extend this base with air bridges? We already have one such base - in Transnistria. For starters, Serbia would need to return Montenegro.
            1. Nycomed
              Nycomed 26 October 2019 02: 51
              -2
              " For starters, Serbia would need to return Montenegro"
              What does "return" mean? Was Montenegro once part of Serbia?
              1. Amin_vivec
                Amin_vivec 26 October 2019 09: 11
                +2
                You won’t believe it, but some time ago both Montenegro and Serbia were part of a single federal state.
                Although do not bother ...
                Whether Serbia will be able to return Montenegro to its former state is the problem of Serbia. But the construction of a base in a cut-off region without access to the sea is a realizable task, but financially expensive.
                1. Nycomed
                  Nycomed 26 October 2019 09: 35
                  -2
                  "You won’t believe it, but some time ago both Montenegro and Serbia were part of a single federal state."
                  And why not Montenegro return Serbia? Or Croatia will not return Serbia? Who appointed the Serbs to be the chief in Yugoslavia? Josip Broz, perhaps the only sane leader of Yugoslavia, had nothing to do with the Serbs. Mother is Slovenka, Father is Horvath.
                  1. orionvitt
                    orionvitt 26 October 2019 12: 40
                    0
                    Quote: Nycomed
                    And why not Montenegro return Serbia?

                    To the psychiatrist, urgently.
                    1. Nycomed
                      Nycomed 26 October 2019 13: 27
                      -1
                      Today is Saturday, I'm afraid that you will have to postpone the visit to this doctor until Monday. hi
                  2. Amin_vivec
                    Amin_vivec 26 October 2019 14: 04
                    0
                    In this location was not only Yugoslavia, there was also Autro-Hungary, which also gathered the Balkan and South Slavic peoples. Ethnic Germans ruled there, and WHAT? I repeat - this is the problem of Serbia, then what matters to us?
                    1. Nycomed
                      Nycomed 26 October 2019 14: 14
                      0
                      There has long been no problem there, Yugoslavia disintegrated, unfortunately, with blood. But war has been gone for almost twenty years. There are several independent states. If the Serbs consider this a problem, well, let them consider it. You are right in one thing, of course: we should not care about all this. hi
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        3. Vadivak
          Vadivak 26 October 2019 10: 05
          0
          Quote: Leeds
          We have a generous soul, we can give.

          Yeah, and Kemsku parish there too
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  2. Nycomed
    Nycomed 25 October 2019 17: 54
    0
    “When people ask what we would like - we would like to now afford to have a S-400. But only if the Russians leave him to us"
    Well, who would doubt it!
    1. astepanov
      astepanov 25 October 2019 18: 23
      -3
      Something tells me: the Americans, on the same terms - "if they leave" - ​​would also not give up the S-400. At least for disassembly.
      "... Stepping on the straps dragging behind him from his underpants, the beggar grabbed Alexander Ivanovich by the hand and quickly muttered:
      - Give a million, give a million, give a million! "
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 25 October 2019 18: 58
        -3
        "- Uncle, give me 10 kopecks, eh? Uncle, give me 10 kopecks, I'm telling you.
        - Can I give you another key to the apartment where the money is?
    2. Romario_Argo
      Romario_Argo 25 October 2019 18: 27
      +1
      But only if the Russians leave it to us "
      Well, who would doubt it!

      if it helps to enhance our national security
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    3. 1976AG
      1976AG 25 October 2019 18: 43
      +9
      Quote: Nycomed
      “When people ask what we would like - we would like to now afford to have a S-400. But only if the Russians leave him to us"
      Well, who would doubt it!

      At least honestly said.
      1. Nycomed
        Nycomed 25 October 2019 18: 52
        -7
        And he always begs everything honestly and directly! lol
        1. ultra
          ultra 25 October 2019 23: 28
          +5
          Quote: Nycomed
          And he always begs everything honestly and directly!

          so Israel begs. And it doesn’t bother you? laughing
          1. Nycomed
            Nycomed 26 October 2019 02: 46
            0
            Why should this bother me? Israel is not begging for my country, where I pay taxes. Let this confuse the taxpayers of those countries for which Israel begs. fool
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 26 October 2019 12: 17
              0
              Quote: Nycomed
              Why should this bother me? Israel is not begging for my country, where I pay taxes. Let this confuse the taxpayers of those countries for which Israel begs. fool

              We will not give them this complex, but you will not live better from this. Taxes, like prices, are growing well without it.
              1. Nycomed
                Nycomed 26 October 2019 12: 56
                -1
                And I broke my brains myself, thinking about who makes decisions on whether to give something to the Serbs or not. And that, it turns out, is you. I'll know.
    4. Amin_vivec
      Amin_vivec 25 October 2019 20: 49
      -8
      In the evening money - in the morning chairs. Day money - night chairs. Can I have chairs in the morning and money in the evening? Can!!! Only Money is AHEAD.
  3. Valery Valery
    Valery Valery 25 October 2019 17: 57
    +11
    Why should Serbia buy our air defense systems? .. Let it save money and allow Russia to deploy a military base on its territory.
    1. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 25 October 2019 19: 00
      +2
      Let him save and let Russia deploy a military base on its territory.


      Why does Russia need a military base in Serbia?

      You decided to attack NATO ?! Prepare a bridgehead ?!

      If NATO attacks, it will be much easier to destroy our base on the territory of Serbia than it is on the territory of Russia.

      Serbia is blocked from all sides by NATO countries, we won’t even get there by air if we have to send reserves there, only to break through one of the NATO countries with battle.

      For me, Serbia should not be donated, but deepened economic cooperation. For example, it’s not in Russophobian Poland to buy apples, but in Serbia, like everything else.

      To help them with nuclear power plants let gas transit through Serbia, which will give the country cheap energy and an opportunity for the development of industry.

      And so in all directions. They give us apples, we give them civilian aircraft, etc.

      Serbia will rise economically and don’t have to give anything, they themselves will buy it and probably from us. And then they will become strong and Kosovo will be returned.

      And we will get not just an ally, but a friend country. Of the present.

      First, the economy must be boosted, and then the army, if on the contrary it will be like the USSR, the country will fall apart without war.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 25 October 2019 19: 06
        +7
        Why does Russia need a military base in Serbia?

        You decided to attack NATO ?! Prepare a bridgehead ?!

        If NATO attacks, it will be much easier to destroy our base on the territory of Serbia than it is on the territory of Russia.
        The Russian base in Serbia is like a pistol at NATO's temple, like Iskanders in the Kaliningrad region. They can smash, but this is a war with Russia. Likewise, in Syria, our base can be smashed. They can, but, sorry, stut. Because they also want to live.
      2. Valery Valery
        Valery Valery 25 October 2019 19: 10
        +2
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Let him save and let Russia deploy a military base on its territory.


        Why does Russia need a military base in Serbia?

        You decided to attack NATO ?! Prepare a bridgehead ?!

        If NATO attacks, it will be much easier to destroy our base on the territory of Serbia than it is on the territory of Russia.

        First, the economy must be boosted, and then the army, if on the contrary it will be like the USSR, the country will fall apart without war.


        A vivid example of an empty nonsense !!!
      3. Amin_vivec
        Amin_vivec 25 October 2019 20: 53
        -5
        It’s just not possible to corrupt our friends with our excessive generosity — they don’t look for good from good, as usual. Tough, extremely mutually beneficial. And in one gate - fools no longer play.
    2. Chaldon48
      Chaldon48 26 October 2019 04: 06
      0
      Serbia may pay with the supply of food to this base and the provision of utilities.
    3. parkello
      parkello 26 October 2019 06: 58
      +2
      I recommend leaving them this complex there as a gift, and they, in turn, will pay back. it will not rust after them. I know the Serbs well. they will wholeheartedly try to give Russia something in return, be it a base or something else. when the Serbs helped the Greeks defend Thessaloniki from the Nazis and Italian fascists, they did not say, let the Greeks give us something in return or let them pay. they all died here, up to one .but did not retreat and did not abandon the Greeks. and it is clear that for the next few years nothing shone from Greece except for close friendship, and they did not ask for anything in return. and when NATO began to bomb Serbia, only we remained with them, and we will remain shoulder to shoulder until the very end. perhaps Russia should answer Vucic’s words honestly, what Russia needs and fix it with the S-400 system. maybe they can’t buy yet, but they can give something else in return. for example, to open a joint service for the MiG or Su corporation, to start some kind of production together, or somehow .. but they won’t leave it like that. in any case, they will repay for them ... as yet Serbs and Hungarians are friendly countries. oddly enough ... they come to us every year, relax on the sea. I often communicate with them, and if the Serbs understandably love Russia, I did not expect from the Hungarians, but meanwhile only the Hungarians and Serbs remained Russophiles. and a little bit Czechs ... the rest as they have a place for them in the fire, the same Romanians. Bulgarians and Poles. you yourself think what you would like to receive in return, except money ... and you will get it. they really have a very poor army, Greece helped them as much as they could, and they never told us, but you could, but they didn’t ... they understand so much that they do what they can do, we will do the rest when we can. and in the end, Russia still has a lot of S-300s that can be donated, even if not 400, but at least 300 ku, there are T-72 or 62 tanks, they are on conservation, they need to be armed .. NEED !! ! they are also in the ring and constantly press on them from all sides. here who should just help is the Serbs ... neither Africa nor South America, but only them. and all sorts of Korea-Vietnam and Cambodia let them wait. they don’t have to give or forgive debts at all. but I would help Serbia, simply because they exist. if the Serbs call me and say we need volunteers, I’ll go to fight for them as Greeks ... it makes no difference. because they are brothers to me, and you ... I know. see for yourself.
      1. Vesista
        Vesista 26 October 2019 20: 10
        +1
        ↑ Thank you brother to you, from Serbia, for a more reasonable misli. Of course, we don’t want gifts, but there is simply not so much money right away, but I wanted to pay for the long-term S-400 system from Serbia. Many from Serbia think that if the Russians now take the S-400 out of our country, then NATO will never allow you to bring it back to us again. And even now, not bi allowed your plane to fly, just like they didn’t allow the plane with your paratroopers to Pristina, but you didn’t know what was in it, but in the future you can think how they will monitor every Ruslan if he flies to us and what is in it!
        1. parkello
          parkello 26 October 2019 20: 16
          +1
          Yes exactly. no longer missed. therefore it is better to leave this complex already. he certainly will not disappear and will serve the two powers immediately and Serbia and Russia. hello to Serbia from Greece, from Thessaloniki. God bless you .
          1. Vesista
            Vesista 26 October 2019 20: 25
            +1
            Thank you. Greetings from us and God bless you too.
  4. Victor_B
    Victor_B 25 October 2019 17: 58
    0
    No handouts!
    Only for the loot or for the base on their territory.
    And then they want to join NATO, they can't eat.
    Although the base is against NATO on the territory of Serbia ... There is no access to the sea, but everything is in place.
    1. Leeds
      Leeds 25 October 2019 18: 35
      -10
      Nice to see reasonable thoughts.
  5. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 25 October 2019 18: 02
    0
    Missile base on the territory of Serbia plus S-400 and "Pantsiri" to cover the base and the entire territory of Serbia, maintenance at the expense of the Serbs.
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 25 October 2019 18: 18
      +6
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Missile base on the territory of Serbia plus S-400 and "Pantsiri" to cover the base and the entire territory of Serbia, maintenance at the expense of the Serbs.

      It's cheaper for them to buy an S-400 with "Armor". Their territory would be useful to us ourselves, especially considering the withdrawal from the INF Treaty, and in general, taking into account the movements of NATO near our borders. There is a mutual benefit here and we must use it.
      1. Oyo Sarkazmi
        Oyo Sarkazmi 25 October 2019 18: 23
        -7
        Come on, Serbs, Serbs. About 10 years ago there was a video where the US ambassador to Serbia poked his face in the face of the Serbian prime minister and covered him with obscenities.
        That’s all you need to know about the Serbs. The same Poles ...
      2. Dmitry Potapov
        Dmitry Potapov 25 October 2019 18: 32
        +1
        A base in Serbia is more profitable for us. While the air defense, then we'll see. Who can tell the flight time of "Calibers" from Serbia to any point in Western Europe and Great Britain?
    2. Leeds
      Leeds 25 October 2019 18: 38
      -7
      Quote: Dmitry Potapov
      Missile base on the territory of Serbia plus S-400 and "Pantsiri" to cover the base and the entire territory of Serbia, maintenance at the expense of the Serbs.

      They needed this for a year in 97, and now for our base they will be so stunned by sanctions and restrictions that the people will become stiff. They have already lost EVERYTHING and de facto admitted it, people have reconciled, therefore our base is more dangerous for them than NATO.
  6. Terenin
    Terenin 25 October 2019 18: 06
    +10
    ... the calculations of the S-400 air defense system deployed the complex on the territory of the Bataynitsa airfield as part of the exercises, thereby completely covering the capital of Serbia Belgrade and the central industrial region of Serbia from an air attack

    Of course, this is also a political signal from Russia. For the first time, exercises involving new air defense systems are held abroad.
    Serbia is strangled from all sides. These are the constant provocations of Kosovo separatists, whose quasi-state formation is not recognized by Serbia, but is strongly supported by NATO countries. Involvement in Montenegro, the former ally of Serbia and its neighbor. Strengthening the influence of NATO generals and Brussels European bureaucrats on affairs in Macedonia, neighboring Serbia, which is even ready to change the name of its country to please these figures ...
  7. vanavatny
    vanavatny 25 October 2019 18: 12
    +7
    Well, yes, to build a system of protection against attacks, like the ones experienced by the Serbs in the nineties, is unrealistic, just if you count how many things were released then and how it could be stopped. Serbia has no ambitions that could lead to a repetition of this, and the word ,, absolutely ,, has no means to create something similar to where Russia has 400 built in. On the other hand, their neighbors have nothing of the kind (including ambition), for counteraction to what these complexes are needed for. In general, the Serbs and I need a strong Russia, then not only the Serbs, but also many others will not have to puzzle over an insoluble task
  8. lucul
    lucul 25 October 2019 18: 18
    -2
    They need a deeply layered air defense, one S-400 installation will not solve anything, it will be easily covered, which will cause reputation damage to our air defense.
    For example, I want Maybach, and now what? Anyone who wants to give for free?
    The Serbs won’t climb into NATO themselves, let them decide first, whether they are with us or with them, then you can think about it.
    1. Leeds
      Leeds 25 October 2019 18: 39
      -6
      They are where the people are fed, and this is in the EU and, as a result, in NATE.
  9. Timon2155
    Timon2155 25 October 2019 18: 19
    +2
    Serbia is now for us a suitcase without a handle: you can’t leave it, and you can’t drag it (everything around is in NATO). Strategically in terms of defense is a losing option. It remains to support morally, politically, in exercises, sometimes well and the like. Unfortunately, this is a dead end today. But to work for the sake of “tomorrow” - why not !? If only this were not a one-goal game: adequate assistance from them should be for any help on our part.
  10. knn54
    knn54 25 October 2019 18: 33
    +1
    "CUBE"; "Neva" - one can only sympathize.
    During the war with the West, the Yugoslav MiG flew to Hungary.
    Serbia wants to join the EU, has a representative office in NATO.
    Who do they want to defend against?
  11. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 25 October 2019 19: 07
    -1
    Serbia needs to be helped. At the expense of giving the S-400 I'm not sure, but economically they need to be supported.

    And in all directions - to open our market, let the Serbs sell us apples and everything else, not the Poles. We give them our goods, which they do not have - cars, planes, etc.

    Serbia’s NPPs should be built, even if they provide themselves with cheap energy and sent for export.

    Let gas transit through Serbia and build a gas block there.

    And they will become richer, they themselves will buy both air defense systems and fighter jets and everything else.

    Kosovo will also become stronger.

    And we will get an eternal ally and marketing of our products in the Serbian market.

    Even if Serbia buys 20 aircraft from us, it is already a billion dollars that our industry and the budget will receive in the form of taxes.
  12. Klingon
    Klingon 26 October 2019 00: 43
    0
    can't let C-400 let them buy C-300 PMU-1, also good kompleks
    1. zyablik.olga
      zyablik.olga 26 October 2019 03: 12
      +2
      Quote: Klingon
      can't let C-400 let them buy C-300 PMU-1, also good kompleks

      ZR S-300PMU-1 is an export S-300PS created at the end of the 80's and built until the middle of the 90's. The production of this system and missiles for it has long been discontinued.
  13. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 October 2019 02: 56
    -1
    When people ask what we would like - we would now like to allow ourselves to have C-400. But only if the Russians leave him to us, otherwise we cannot afford C-400.

    Give a direct hint.
  14. Klingon
    Klingon 26 October 2019 09: 31
    0
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    Quote: Klingon
    can't let C-400 let them buy C-300 PMU-1, also good kompleks

    ZR S-300PMU-1 is an export S-300PS created at the end of the 80's and built until the middle of the 90's. The production of this system and missiles for it has long been discontinued.

    and then to the Syrians that without missiles they gave some tubes ??
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 26 October 2019 11: 34
      0
      According to rumors, they delivered the S-300 PMU-2. The modification was not officially called, only the range of target destruction of 240 km was mentioned.
  15. Old26
    Old26 26 October 2019 11: 30
    +1
    Quote: Spartanez300
    To have a small base, I think it would not be bad to have there for the protection and our presence in this region.

    And she, is this base needed there? Is it difficult to look at a map before writing a post?

    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    They give us apples, we give them civilian aircraft, etc.

    By weight? laughing
    This will be one of the gifts that you say that you don’t need to give anything