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A pair of Russian strategists Tu-160 landed at an airfield in South Africa

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A pair of Russian strategic missile carriers Tu-160 landed at the Waterclof South African airport in the suburbs of the capital of the Republic of South Africa, Pretoria. This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Russia.




As stated in the Russian military department, Russian strategists spent more than 13 hours in the air, breaking over 11 thousand kilometers during this time. The flight took place in the waters of the Caspian and Arabian seas, as well as the Indian Ocean with one refueling in the air. At the last stage of the flight, an honorary escort to Russian strategists was made by the South African Air Force fighter Saab JAS 39

Long-range flight aviation passed over the waters of the Caspian and Arabian seas, as well as the Indian Ocean with one refueling in the air

- it is spoken in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

Earlier it was reported that the Russian strategists of the Tu-160, as well as the Il-62 and An-124 Ruslan military transport aircraft that are part of the air group, will visit South Africa at the invitation of the South African republic. The purpose of the visit of Russian aviation is the development of bilateral military cooperation and the development of interaction between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the South African Air Force.

Note that such an international visit of Russian aviation is not the first. Earlier, a pair of Tu-160, accompanied by the same Il-62 and An-124, visited Venezuela, where Russian strategists worked out several training tasks together with the crews of the Venezuelan Air Force.

Washington previously stated that Russia is rapidly expanding its influence in Africa, using various methods for this, ranging from the sale of military equipment and weapons and ending with the construction of mining enterprises and nuclear energy.
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  1. Alien From
    Alien From 23 October 2019 18: 45
    -27
    If only they would pay us with hard currency, rather than bananas))))) how many debts were written off today ?????
    1. Nycomed
      Nycomed 23 October 2019 18: 52
      -9
      The total figure for the cannibals written off by Putin is 20 billion, not rubles, of course. feel
      1. Local from the Volga
        Local from the Volga 23 October 2019 19: 35
        +12
        Dear, how would you explain that something is being debited now, only in exchange for something! The Cat Matroskin Principle, paraphrasing!)
        1. Nycomed
          Nycomed 23 October 2019 20: 14
          -10
          In exchange for what? To the hands raised at the UN? Or the recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia?
          1. the most important
            the most important 23 October 2019 22: 30
            +1
            Quote: Nycomed
            In exchange for what? To the hands raised at the UN?

            As usual, for dancing with tambourines ... Although, this is not always the case. Iraq (there is more oil there than water in the Volga !!!) was written off for 9 million bucks just like that .. Vietnam and Cuba lost the bases according to the same scheme. Brilliant !!!
            1. asv363
              asv363 23 October 2019 23: 53
              +1
              How would you plan to recover money from Iraq destroyed by the Americans? Iraq is now buying oil from Iran, the permit is regularly renewed by the US State Department / Treasury. Volumes are not very large, perhaps logistics costs - but there is import.
              1. the most important
                the most important 24 October 2019 16: 10
                +1
                Quote: asv363
                How would you plan to recover money from Iraq destroyed by the Americans?

                Iraq ranks 7th in the world in oil production. 2,5 million barrels are produced DAY, with a market share of 3,65%.
                1. asv363
                  asv363 24 October 2019 17: 05
                  0
                  This means that the features of logistics, we also supply oil to the same northern Iran. And the oil fields in the south and southeast of the republic. The issue with Iraq is the same as with the 3 billion debt of Ukraine (a specific tranche in November or December 2013). How to recover, in what arbitration is suing. If this is a public debt, they will say that they took smooth bribes under Saddam Hussein.
            2. maidan.izrailovich
              maidan.izrailovich 24 October 2019 05: 14
              +3
              Iraq (there is more oil there than water in the Volga !!!) was written off 9 million dollars for no reason ..

              That's right you set out.
              So here someone else and "a log in the eye" reproaches. And they themselves felling in the eye.
              Concerns about South Africa are not from scratch. Examples of the type of Iraqi mass.
              Yes, and South Africa, the country is unstable. At any moment, power may change. An example of Brazil is illustrative.
              If this is just a crew training and demonstration to the world of our capabilities, then this is a necessary thing. And if someone builds long-term plans there, then we would first have to settle things with the closest neighbors, and only then, to tackle the remote corners of the planet.
              And most importantly, you need to learn Do not write off debts.
        2. kapitan92
          kapitan92 23 October 2019 21: 32
          +6
          Quote: Local from the Volga
          Dear, how would you explain that something is being debited now, only in exchange for something! The Cat Matroskin Principle, paraphrasing!)

          hi Let's start with the source:
          At the Russia-Africa International Economic Forum in Sochi, Vladimir Putin presented the guests of the event with an unexpected and pleasant surprise.
          Speaking to the heads of African states, the Russian president announced the cancellation of debt from the countries of the Black Continent in the amount of more than $ 20 billion. The Russian leader added that joint programs were launched with a number of African countries, involving the use of debt funds to finance national projects.

          Experts explain that in such a goodwill gesture made by the head of state on behalf of the country, there are two key points - economic and reputation.

          The economic moment is due to the fact that debt cancellation in most cases is carried out in exchange for some action on the part of the debtor country. As a rule, this is development assistance: for example, the debtor country agrees to purchase certain products from Russia, thus loading the capacities of Russian enterprises.

          https://topcor.ru/11612-rossija-prostila-afrike-20-milliardov-dollarov.html?utm_source=finobzor.ru
          But !!! State debts are written off, i.e. from the budget of the country, and "download" will, if any, private enterprises, MOST OF WHICH ARE DRAWN IN OFFSHORE. laughing
          Perhaps there will be preferences for "Russian" companies for the development of minerals and the production of hydrocarbons, but all cash flows again pass through the "Western subsidiaries" and to Russia, little will come, perhaps the cost of evacuating our specialists in the next "color revolution" for this continent. laughing
          Again we are recruiting "brothers and partners" among the "Papuans" !!! good
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 23 October 2019 19: 12
      +4
      Quote: Alien From
      If only they would pay us with hard currency,

      Diamonds rubies emeralds?
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 23 October 2019 19: 13
        -7
        Why not?)
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 23 October 2019 21: 46
        +4
        Back in Africa, iridium, many other rare earth metals and uranium ore are mined.
    3. Berkut24
      Berkut24 23 October 2019 20: 24
      +7
      how many debts today were written off ?????

      Debts are always forgiven when signing agreements on:
      1) Providing the most favored nation treatment to companies in a country that writes off debts in relation to other economic partners
      2) Granting the right of preferential access to the country's natural resources
      3) Granting the right to participate in strategic industries and the financial sector
      4) Significant reduction in taxation to companies of the country writing off debt
      5) Other preferences, including the provision of land for the state needs of the country, writing off debt.
    4. ltc35
      ltc35 23 October 2019 20: 30
      +2
      As far as I know, South Africa had no debts to the USSR. The diplomatic mission was opened after the softening of apartheid. A De Beers is a multinational company and monopolist.
    5. Alien From
      Alien From 23 October 2019 21: 14
      -15
      The minusers came running in the evening, well, come on, you patriotic clowns))))
      1. bondrostov
        bondrostov 23 October 2019 21: 42
        +4
        In fairness, South Africa had no debts to the USSR because they had apartheid, we were not friends with them.
    6. NEXUS
      NEXUS 23 October 2019 21: 56
      +2
      Quote: Alien From
      If only they would pay us with hard currency, rather than bananas))))) how many debts were written off today ?????

      That is, your brain gave such a deep and most important meaningful thought?
      So the cancellation of agreements to the state is all for a bucket of seeds in your opinion?
      And the fact that our companies receive preferences, a reduction in the tax burden, a reduction in customs duties to Russian exporters, is that so little things? And the fact that our defense industry in billions of billions gets an advantage over competitors in the market of this state, is that good for you? Again, the import of products from this state and in general trade will increase significantly, if not at times, do not we also think? And finally, strategic nishtyaki, right up to the construction of our base there, I suppose, doesn’t fly into your head too?
      This is me, for a vantage point you have identified some points that this cancellation of debt gives us. But there are still tenders in the civilian sphere, for example, which can be measured in billions.
      But then you need to gurgle that all polymer was stolen, and that the plaster is removed, the client leaves.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 24 October 2019 00: 27
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Our defense industry in the ten billionth tenders gets an advantage against competitors in the market of this state

        In addition to writing off debts, just another thing was announced today - in 2019, Russia will supply arms to Africa for four billion dollars, and in the coming years - 14 billion dollars. Wait and see...
        1. Town Hall
          Town Hall 24 October 2019 00: 31
          +2
          Quote: BrTurin
          In addition to writing off debts, just another thing was announced today - in 2019, Russia will supply arms to Africa for four billion dollars, and in the coming years - 14 billion dollars. Wait and see...

          Which debts will be written off in the next 30 years in exchange for preferences for new deliveries?
    7. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 24 October 2019 00: 29
      0
      Quote: Alien From
      If only they would pay us with hard currency,

      Why computer prog currency? request
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 24 October 2019 03: 59
        +4
        Electricity to pay. wink
        Alexander hi
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 24 October 2019 15: 37
          +1
          Quote: Leopold
          Electricity to pay.

          Don’t mine. laughing Sergey, hi
          1. Leopold
            Leopold 24 October 2019 15: 41
            +3
            Duc she was originally "dumb gold reserves." request You need to earn at least a buck for the seed, and then ...
            Don’t mine.

            yes good
            1. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 24 October 2019 15: 46
              +1
              Quote: Leopold
              initially "there is no gold reserve".

              Followers (pah, vile word) let them then throw off. laughing
              1. Leopold
                Leopold 24 October 2019 15: 49
                +2
                And what kind of filthy creatures are these? belay
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 24 October 2019 17: 47
                  +2
                  Quote: Leopold
                  what kind of scum creatures?

                  From the English "follow" - follow. In other words, followers. yes
                  1. Leopold
                    Leopold 24 October 2019 19: 34
                    +3
                    As it blows the Greek phallus. And "followers" too. That's because. wink
    8. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 08: 14
      -1
      cry troll
      1. Alien From
        Alien From 24 October 2019 12: 26
        -3
        What topic????
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 13: 15
          0
          on the topic that you did not get money from Russian foreign policy))))
          1. Alien From
            Alien From 24 October 2019 13: 16
            -4
            With such judgments, Troll is you!))))))
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 13: 20
              -1
              re-read your posts, cry everywhere about the fact that everything is bad
              1. Alien From
                Alien From 24 October 2019 13: 25
                -3
                everyone sees what he wants to see)))
                1. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 13: 30
                  0
                  90% see good
                  1. Alien From
                    Alien From 24 October 2019 13: 37
                    -4
                    Yes, I do not mind))
  2. Klingon
    Klingon 23 October 2019 18: 46
    +4
    right, who had time and ate (b)!
    - not all striped cat is Pancake week wassat
  3. Bykov.
    Bykov. 23 October 2019 18: 47
    +2
    What a twist!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 October 2019 21: 50
      +1
      It is necessary to bring "calmness" and "clarity" until 2022 in Russia, the income tax will be raised to 19% - these are Silanov and Putin, now nothing can happen in Russia and the world without him, they are to blame.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 08: 18
        -1
        who said that?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 24 October 2019 12: 09
          0
          Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation.
          1. Nastia makarova
            Nastia makarova 24 October 2019 12: 14
            -1
            link please?
  4. icant007
    icant007 23 October 2019 18: 50
    +1
    Are we already in South Africa? Well this is our probable enemy in the past) However! It is not for nothing that they say "Russians slowly harness, but jump quickly")))
  5. Nycomed
    Nycomed 23 October 2019 18: 53
    0
    Flew without incident, well done! good
  6. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 23 October 2019 18: 58
    +1
    ending with the construction of mining enterprises and nuclear energy.
    Oh, it turns out we are building nuclear plants in Africa? I didn’t know, but to whom?
    1. Lopatov
      Lopatov 23 October 2019 19: 25
      +2
      Egypt for sure. With a high probability of Ethiopia.
    2. Leopold
      Leopold 23 October 2019 21: 19
      +3
      Maybe resources for nuclear power?
    3. asv363
      asv363 23 October 2019 22: 58
      +2
      NPP "El-Dabaa" in Egypt with 4 power units.
  7. mvg
    mvg 23 October 2019 19: 20
    -10
    In passing, I know why there is no money for weapons. What can interest us in South Africa? By the fact that we will write off a couple of billion green rubles to them, then we drive a couple of transporters there to serve two missile carriers, then there are 20 thousand kilometers of flight, plus refuelers, plus the risk of losing planes ...
    With this money you can build a couple of military camps or equip a couple of battalions with equipment. Do we have any economic interests in Africa? Will we compete with China and the USA? What for is this window dressing?
    1. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 23 October 2019 19: 47
      0
      And if you have to bomb something in Africa? They took off, bombed, and there is no fuel back! This is where the landing point with the corresponding strip appears. Refueled, loaded with bombs and bombed on the way back! And you need to know the road!
      1. mvg
        mvg 23 October 2019 20: 04
        0
        They took off, bombed, and there is no fuel back!

        Are you sure you graduated from school? Who to bomb? In order for the strategist to sit down and take off, there you need to have a couple of hundred hundred technicians and a technical base .. appropriate. The Boers will not check the avionics avionics of strategists, will not refuel, and will not suspend missiles and bombs. For the flight of the Tu-160 you need about 200 man-hours of training.
        PS: It could generally be a one-way flight. He sat down and did not take off .. then months, for repairs and the transfer of spare parts and technicians. If only the whole world would laugh.
        1. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 23 October 2019 20: 32
          +3
          I believe that you have finished school! But note that the strategist has already sat down and will surely take off. And I recall how our planes landed and took off in Iran. You need to know the roads to drive on them. And apparently Russia had hundreds of technicians in Venezuela.
          I graduated from high school and military school, and served at the Limanskoe airfield.
          1. mvg
            mvg 23 October 2019 21: 47
            -2
            Russia had hundreds of technicians in Venezuela

            Venezuela - operator of the Su-30. Before the Tu-160 arrived there, 2 transporters flew there. It's the same in Iran. Airfield lease agreement, transport workers, base, then Tu'shki.
            PS: If the plane lands, it’s not a fact that it will take off. Prelaunch preparation, something speaks about it. There are standard hours, aircraft maintenance, before departure. There is ground equipment that checks the plane.
            PPS: Did you serve in the guard of honor? Or a technician? Not for nothing, first in South Africa boarded 2 transport, and only then Tu-160.
            What, nafik, roads? Is this front-line aviation? Or, in order to strike in New York, do you have to fly there a couple of times? There is a navigation system, then by orders from the Tower - landing. At the same time, the length of the runway is about 3500 m. In Russia, we have 5-7 aerodromes (operating 5), which a strategist can accept (except for civilians).
            1. seregin-s1
              seregin-s1 23 October 2019 22: 14
              +3
              Porridge in your head is excellent! But not edible!))) And I advise you not to thump at night! Thoughts are confused ..........
              1. mvg
                mvg 23 October 2019 22: 21
                -3
                And I advise you not to thump at night!

                A week, even if I didn’t drink beer ...))
                And, about the porridge, well, so Zenit plays in the Champions League (loses), distracted .. wassat
                PS: And the thoughts are correct. Not WWII, when he sat down - took off. Moreover, such a complicated thing as a strategist, with 4-me NK-32 and, after flying on 11000 km. Seriously, the airfields that host and serve strategists in Russia are on the fingers of one hand. Yes, there are lanes where they can still sit, but not be serviced. There are spare ones where they should fly, in case the database starts, but not much.
                1. Leopold
                  Leopold 24 October 2019 04: 34
                  +4
                  Once sat down, then the strip allows. The transport worker brought all the property, and the IL-62 technical staff, security, well, maybe even the "High Delegation". They will conduct a couple of patrol flights with local cover and home. Knowledge and experience will certainly bring, and they are not superfluous.
      2. Nycomed
        Nycomed 23 October 2019 20: 22
        +2
        And why do we need to bomb someone or something in Africa? stop
        1. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 23 October 2019 20: 46
          +1
          Why did we need to bomb in Syria?
          Who knows where it smells? You need to prepare in advance for the maximum number of options. Why did they conduct joint patrols with China? To know how to do it!
        2. Leopold
          Leopold 23 October 2019 21: 24
          +5
          The rhinos are stubborn there. Here we are the discarded bulbs of them and that. And work out and not hurt.
  8. Tu-16
    Tu-16 23 October 2019 19: 25
    +8
    honorary export to Russian strategists
    - correct, all the same, the escort is more correct.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 23 October 2019 20: 33
      -4
      Quote: Tu-16
      honorary export to Russian strategists
      - correct, all the same, the escort is more correct.
      "Honorary Export" means that our strategists were respectfully forced to leave the airspace over South Africa smile
  9. knn54
    knn54 23 October 2019 19: 50
    -2
    TU-180 in South Africa amid the departure of the Yankees from Syria is somehow pleasant.
    1. Livonetc
      Livonetc 23 October 2019 20: 32
      +5
      TU160.
      There was no information about TU180 yet wink
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 23 October 2019 21: 27
        +6
        Will be! I hope to live and see. What if it works out? lol
      2. bondrostov
        bondrostov 23 October 2019 21: 54
        +1
        C'mon, the minuses the person immediately threw can from the phone the wrong button pressed unnoticed
        1. Livonetc
          Livonetc 23 October 2019 22: 15
          +3
          I adjusted a bit a bit.
          Like you. :)
          You can also fix it.
          And cons are to some extent pluses.
          No jelly tasteless post means.
          It clings to something.
          And I got hooked.
          I even started checking the version about the possible TU 180. laughing
          Do not be ashamed not to know.
          I am ashamed not to want to know.
          1. bondrostov
            bondrostov 23 October 2019 22: 16
            +1
            Maybe PAK YES and will be TU 180 drinks
      3. Russia
        Russia 24 October 2019 02: 27
        +4
        Quote: Livonetc
        TU160.
        There was no information about TU180 yet wink

        Yes there is TU180. yes Probably with TU 180 (bis) beguiled, sometimes they shoot. yes
  10. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 23 October 2019 19: 53
    -3
    What is noteworthy is that immediately after a visit to the Arabs, we flew over the Arabian Sea (and the desert was probably hit by a wing).
    Well, about the cancellation of debts to the Chungachangs, only the lazy one was not noted.
  11. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 23 October 2019 20: 10
    -6
    The purpose of the visit of Russian aviation is the development of bilateral military cooperation and the development of interaction between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the South African Air Force.

    That development of cooperation specifically with South Africa (BRICS) is useful - no one doubts. Even Brazil. In South Africa, there are many different things. But I would like to clarify with experts:
    "Can you name a hypothetical place where (in a real combat situation) interaction between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the South African Air Force can take place?"
    Based on real events (just in life) of modern history, the interactions of the Russian Air Forces with the Turkish and Israeli air forces are known ... There is evidence that attempts of close contacts of the third degree took place even with the NATO air forces ... Such a kind of interaction ...
    Now, regarding debt relief:
    Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the total amount of debts written off by Russia to African countries exceeded $ 20 billion, TASS reports.
    He said that this is happening within the framework of international structures, in order to help the development of the African continent.
    Putin explained that assistance is being provided through the World Food Program, the International Civil Defense Organization, and the World Health Organization. Debt cancellation took place as part of an initiative to ease the debt burden of African countries.

    Naturally, what does the visit of the Russian Aerospace Forces to South Africa have to Putin’s visit to Africa. Nothing at all in common. Even the globes are different. But I still wanted to clarify about debts:
    Why African peoples and countries (some in their development are even faster than Russia in terms of performance) can write off debts of 1 rubles (translated), and it is not possible to find a little more than 300 for indexing pensions ... Why not to write off debts on mortgage loans (for example) to their own Russian citizens?
    To fly to South Africa, and even with refueling, and across three seas is a necessary and important thing ... This is when there are practically no places left for flights. Or the goals are so important (especially for strategists) that there’s simply nowhere to put funds for it ...
    1. Babermetis
      Babermetis 23 October 2019 20: 42
      -2
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The purpose of the visit of Russian aviation is the development of bilateral military cooperation and the development of interaction between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the South African Air Force.

      That development of cooperation specifically with South Africa (BRICS) is useful - no one doubts. Even Brazil. In South Africa, there are many different things. But I would like to clarify with experts:
      "Can you name a hypothetical place where (in a real combat situation) interaction between the Russian Aerospace Forces and the South African Air Force can take place?"
      Based on real events (just in life) of modern history, the interactions of the Russian Air Forces with the Turkish and Israeli air forces are known ... There is evidence that attempts of close contacts of the third degree took place even with the NATO air forces ... Such a kind of interaction ...
      Now, regarding debt relief:
      Russian President Vladimir Putin said that the total amount of debts written off by Russia to African countries exceeded $ 20 billion, TASS reports.
      He said that this is happening within the framework of international structures, in order to help the development of the African continent.
      Putin explained that assistance is being provided through the World Food Program, the International Civil Defense Organization, and the World Health Organization. Debt cancellation took place as part of an initiative to ease the debt burden of African countries.

      Naturally, what does the visit of the Russian Aerospace Forces to South Africa have to Putin’s visit to Africa. Nothing at all in common. Even the globes are different. But I still wanted to clarify about debts:
      Why African peoples and countries (some in their development are even faster than Russia in terms of performance) can write off debts of 1 rubles (translated), and it is not possible to find a little more than 300 for indexing pensions ... Why not to write off debts on mortgage loans (for example) to their own Russian citizens?
      To fly to South Africa, and even with refueling, and across three seas is a necessary and important thing ... This is when there are practically no places left for flights. Or the goals are so important (especially for strategists) that there’s simply nowhere to put funds for it ...


      The president found the money, but the head of the government did not.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 October 2019 21: 55
      0
      At the expense of Africa’s debts, this is to the leadership of the CPSU, ask what point of the communist future they thought when they gave these guys tens of billions of help in the form of equipment, weapons, training, specialists, materials and much more. It is clear that they were not going to give Russia anything from the very beginning.
      1. Russia
        Russia 24 October 2019 02: 34
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        It is clear that they were not going to give Russia anything from the very beginning.

        Really yes The truth about Russia, as well as Ukraine, and so on and so forth, they probably never knew at that time. smile
  12. Piramidon
    Piramidon 23 October 2019 20: 31
    0
    At the last stage of the flight, honorary exportertons of Russian strategists were South African Air Force fighters Saab JAS 39

    Twenty-five again (T9)? Recently, spears have already broken here. All the same, probably an escort. I hope the mods fix it
  13. Piramidon
    Piramidon 23 October 2019 20: 40
    -1
    The flight took place in the waters of the Caspian and Arabian seas, as well as the Indian Ocean with one refueling in the air.

    When I found out that they were planning such a flight, I thought that they would go along our route already beaten back in the 70s and 80s. Through Venezuela (we have Cuba) - Conakry-Luanda. And it’s like that!
  14. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 23 October 2019 20: 43
    -11
    One hour of a strategist’s flight costs 600 thousand wooden, 13 hours one way, plus the cost of a tanker and escort. Straight breathtaking.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 23 October 2019 20: 59
      +3
      Quote: 7,62x54
      One hour of a strategist’s flight costs 600 thousand wooden, 13 hours one way, plus the cost of a tanker and escort. Straight breathtaking.

      Your hint is clear. Is something diminishing in your pocket, libero-counter-calculator? How much kerosene have you downloaded - the liberal troll?
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 23 October 2019 21: 03
        -8
        Don't be ham, go wash your underpants
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 23 October 2019 21: 37
          -1
          Everything is clear with you, trollik. In fact, to answer weakly? He switched to diapers in his bowel movement. On a specific objection Svidomo mind is not enough? fool
          1. Kenxnumx
            Kenxnumx 23 October 2019 23: 59
            -1
            The man wanted to say that it was not clear to him what scenario they had trained and why (they didn’t fly to Canada), for which so much money was spent. You out of habit fell into rudeness.
      2. bondrostov
        bondrostov 23 October 2019 21: 59
        +2
        And he believes that pilots in the yard on a stool should fly to train
  15. PlotnikoffDD
    PlotnikoffDD 23 October 2019 21: 45
    0
    and between the "waters of the Caspian and Arabian Seas" who provided the airspace? Iran?
  16. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 23 October 2019 23: 56
    -3
    Boeings with Airbasmi fly there regularly. So what.
  17. vadimtt
    vadimtt 24 October 2019 06: 45
    +1
    Actually a strange choice, South Africa is now a very muddy country, with unknown prospects. Although, perhaps this has certain advantages.