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General Vlasov. The path to betrayal

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В previous material pages of the successful military career of General Vlasov were shown not to whitewash this traitor, but to show that he was confidently moving up the career ladder and that there was not the slightest reason that could move the general on the path of treason. What nevertheless pushed him on this path?




Commander of the 2 shock army


Lieutenant General Vlasov showed himself at the beginning of the war as a capable military leader who successfully commanded armies. For the successes achieved on 8 on March 1942, he was appointed deputy commander of the Volkhov Front, where tragic events began in January with the unsuccessful advance of the 2 shock army.

The Lyuban offensive operation began on the Volkhov front on 7 in January, the 2th strike army under the command of General Klykov, successfully breaking through the enemy’s defenses in the area of ​​Myasniy Bor, deeply penetrated its location, but having limited forces and means could not consolidate the success, the enemy repeatedly cut it communication and created a threat to the environment of the army.

To clarify the situation, the front commander Meretskov 20 March sent Vlasov at the head of the commission in the 2 th strike army. The commission found that the army itself was not able to break out of the encirclement and was experiencing difficulties with ammunition and food. In addition, the commander Klykov fell seriously ill, he was released from command of the army, and on April 16 he was evacuated to the rear. Vlasov suggested that Meretskov appoint the chief of the army headquarters Vinogradov as the commander of the dying army, but on April Xnerex, Meretskov appointed Vlasov as the commander of the 20 shock army, leaving him part-time as deputy front commander.

So Vlasov became the commander of the doomed army and, together with the front command, during May-June, with the assistance of the 52 and 59 armies of the Volkhov Front, made desperate attempts to release the 2 army, but was unsuccessful. The situation was aggravated by the fact that the commander of the Volkhov operative group, Lieutenant General Khozin, did not comply with the Headquarters directive of May 21 on the withdrawal of army forces, and its situation became disastrous.

In the "cauldron" were more than 40 thousand Soviet soldiers. Starved by hunger under the continuous blows of the German aviation and artillery continued to fight, breaking out of the encirclement. However, all was inconclusive. The military personnel was melting every day, as, indeed, were the supplies of food and ammunition, but the army did not give up and continued to fight.

Vlasov 22 June sent a report to the headquarters of the front: “The army troops three weeks receive fifty grams of crackers. The last days of food were completely gone. We eat the last horses. People are extremely exhausted. There is a group mortality from hunger. There is no ammunition. ” The territory controlled by the army under enemy attacks was decreasing every day, and soon the agony of the 2 attack army was coming. The front command sent a special plane to evacuate the army headquarters, but the staff refused to abandon their soldiers, and Vlasov joined them.

The command of the Volkhov Front managed to break through a small corridor through which scattered groups of exhausted soldiers and commanders came out. On the evening of June 23, the fighters of the 2 shock army made a new breakthrough through a corridor about 800 meters wide, called the "Death Valley", few managed to break through. On June 24, the last breakthrough attempt was made, which ended in failure. In this situation, it was decided to leave in small groups, and Vlasov gave the order to break up into groups of 3-5 people and secretly leave the environment.

Contrary to the prevailing opinion in Soviet times that the 2 I attack army surrendered along with Vlasov, this is not so. She fought to the last and died heroically. Even German sources recorded that there were no facts of mass surrender; the Russians in Myasnoy Bor preferred to die with weapons in hands and did not give up.

Captivity


Those few witnesses who managed to escape from the cauldron claimed that after unsuccessful attempts to withdraw the army from Vlasov’s encirclement he lost heart, there were no emotions on his face, he did not even try to hide during shelling in shelters.

In the group with Vlasov, Vinogradov, chief of staff, a staff officer and another Vlasov’s lover, cook Voronova, remained. In search of food, they split up, Vlasov stayed with Voronova, and the rest went to another village. Vinogradov was wounded and shivering, Vlasov gave him his overcoat, then he was killed in a shootout, the Germans mistook him for Vlasov.

Together with his companion, Vlasov went into the village of Old Believers and ended up in the headman's house. He called the local police, who arrested them and locked them in a barn. The next day, on 12 of July, a German patrol arrived. Vlasov in German told them: “Don’t shoot, I’m General Vlasov”, the soldiers identified the famous general from portraits often published in newspapers and arrested them.

During interrogations, Vlasov said that the Leningrad and Volkhov fronts are incapable of any offensive operations in the direction of Leningrad and warned the Germans about the possibility of Zhukov's offensive in the central direction. After interrogations, Vlasov was sent to a special officer prisoner of war camp in Vinnitsa, which was subordinate to the supreme command of the Wehrmacht land forces.

In the camp, a former Russian officer from the Baltic Germans Shtrik-Shtrikfeld worked with Vlasov. Following the talks with him, Vlasov agreed that it was necessary to fight communism and Stalin and agreed to cooperate.

What pushed Vlasov to the path of betrayal? Before the capture, there was no hint that Vlasov was dissatisfied with something. He was an active supporter of the current regime in the country, during the years of repression, as a member of the tribunal, he fought with “enemies of the people” and made a successful career, he was personally treated by Stalin (and not always deservedly) and he had no problems and reasons for betrayal It was. At the beginning of the war he had opportunities for treason, but he did not go for it. Until the last moment, he did not think about surrendering.

Apparently, he simply did not have any convictions, he was driven by ambition and ambition, most of all in his life he loved fame and career growth and made his way upstairs in any way. Buoyant and feminine, he wanted under all circumstances to live in a big way.

He believed that this will always be wrong, under his command, the 2-I shock army was surrounded. Death was an alternative to captivity, but he did not want to die. Having lost his army and taken prisoner, he understood that his military career was over and that when he returned home he would be expected to be shamed and humiliated. When switching to the German side and the victory of Germany, which at that time seemed indisputable to him, he could count on a high military post in new Russia under German protection. And Vlasov decided to take the side of the Germans.

The writer Ehrenburg, who spoke with him after the victory near Moscow, left his memories of Vlasov’s personality. He noted that Vlasov stood out for his posturing and acting, his manner of speaking figuratively and cordially, and at the same time, there was an imitation in his behavior, speech, intonation and gestures. Also, Vlasov’s associates in the ROA noted his desire to capture the attention of all those present, to show their importance and emphasize their qualities and merits.

Vlasov was not tortured or starved; he himself consciously chose the path of betrayal, unlike other generals who found themselves in the same situation. It is known that the commander of the 12 Army General Ponedelin, who was captured and sentenced in absentia to death (he was still shot in the 1950 year) and who knew about it, spat on Vlasov’s face in response to a proposal to cooperate, and the commander of the 19 Army Lukin, who was captured wounded and without a leg, scornfully rejected Vlasov’s proposal. Vlasov's subordinate, the commander of the division in the 2 strike army, General Antyufeev, who was also captured by the wounded, sent them to a fabricated interview about his readiness to work for the Germans and remained faithful to the oath.

Work for the Nazis


Representatives of the Wehrmacht’s High Command worked in captivity with Vlasov, they invited him to set out a memorandum with his proposals. Vlasov wrote a note on the need to create a Russian army, which will fight the communist regime on the side of the Germans. Vlasov hoped that the Germans could consider his candidacy as one of the leaders of the future non-Soviet Russia. However, the German command rejected this memorandum, at that time they did not consider any options for state formations in the occupied territory.

Vlasov continued to offer his services to the Germans, and in September 1942 he was transferred to Berlin to the Wehrmacht propaganda department. Vlasov was assigned a purely propaganda role, the Germans decided to create a semi-virtual Russian Committee, headed by Vlasov, which would publish appeals with calls to stop resistance and go over to the side of the Germans.

General Vlasov. The path to betrayal


In December 1942, the Smolensk Appeal was published, in which Vlasov urged him to join his side in order to build a new Russia. Newspapers wrote about the appeal, leaflets were printed in Russian for scattering on Soviet territories. The German military became the main lobbyists of Vlasov; on their initiative, Vlasov made several trips to the location of Army Group North and Center in the winter and spring of 1943, where he met with prominent German military leaders, spoke to local residents in the occupied territories and gave several interviews collaborative newspapers.

The German party leadership did not like the activity of the military, the Nazis saw only a propaganda role in Vlasov, the Russian Committee was dissolved, Vlasov was temporarily banned from speaking publicly.

Stalin was furious at the “gift” presented by Vlasov; in the Soviet press they began to brand him as a Trotskyist, Japanese and German spy. The road back to Vlasov was closed, and the party leadership and Hitler did not want to hear anything about the creation of some kind of Russian army.

Vlasov was out of work, his patrons arranged meetings with prominent figures in Germany, for a year and a half he made acquaintances in various fields, he even arranged a marriage with the SS widow. But the role of Vlasov remained purely propaganda, only the “school of propagandists” was created for him.

As the situation on the fronts worsened, the leadership of the SS began to take a closer look at Vlasov. Himmler in September 1944 summoned Vlasov, who assured him that he had great authority among Soviet generals, and Himmler gave permission to create the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia (KNOR), a kind of government in exile.


Vlasov and Himmler

In November 1944, the first KONR meeting was held, at which the Manifesto of the liberation movement was announced and the formation of the Russian Liberation Army, which previously existed in virtual space, began.

There is a common version that parts of the ROA operated in the occupied territory. This is not so, since at the time of its formation, Soviet troops were already at war in Europe. This is due to the fact that in the occupied territory on the side of the Germans fought other collaborationist groups that are not related to the ROA.

From March to December 1942 there was the Russian National Liberation Army (RNNA) with a deployment in the village of Osintorf in Belarus, created on the initiative of the Russian emigrant Sergei Ivanov. Since September, the 1942 RNNA was headed by the former commander of the 41th Rifle Division of the Red Army Colonel Boyarsky and the former brigade commissar Zhilenkov. The strength of the formation reached 8 thousand people, some battalions were regimented, and RNNA was transformed into a brigade. In December, the 1942 RNNA was disbanded, Boyarsky, Zhilenkov and part of the personnel subsequently joined the ROA.

Also, from October 1941 to September 1943, in the territory of the occupied Bryansk and Oryol regions in the Lokot district, the Russian Liberation People's Army (RONA), numbering about 12 thousand people, consisted of 15 battalions, including tank battalion and artillery division.

These armed groups had nothing to do with the ROA and were used by the Germans in punitive operations against partisans. Some units fought under the Russian tricolor and used tricolor cockades. Later, some units of RNNA and RONA joined the ROA during its formation.

The Germans also created eastern battalions and companies, rarely regiments, as part of the SS troops, a significant part of them were involved in anti-partisan operations. These units were commanded, as a rule, by German officers.

Also, up to 40 of thousands of Cossacks fought on the side of the Germans. Under the leadership of the Don Ataman Krasnov, units from the Cossacks of emigrants and Cossacks of the Don and Kuban, who sided with the Germans, were formed in the SS troops. In 1942, they grew to the Cossack cavalry corps of the SS. They also had no relation to the Vlasov army, in April 1945 Cossack formations concentrated in Italy and Austria in the area of ​​the city of Lienz were formally subordinated to Vlasov.

ROA Formation



The ROA was formed in September 1944 and was staffed by units of the disbanded RNNA and RONA and members of the eastern battalions that had managed to prove themselves earlier in the occupied territory. There were a minority of Soviet prisoners of war, there were also few white emigrants, since they considered the Vlasovites to be "the same Bolsheviks."

In total, three divisions of the ROA were formed. One of them did not have weapons at all, the other did not have heavy weapons, having only small arms. And only the 1 I division of ROA numbering about 20 thousand people was combat ready and fully equipped. A number of independent formations and units were also formed, subordinate to the main headquarters of the ROA. Formally, the ROA was not part of the Wehrmacht, it was financed from the German treasury in the form of loans that were supposed to be returned in the future.



The Andreev flag was used as symbolism, the Germans forbade attempts to use the Russian tricolor, the cap had a blue-red cockade, the chevron on the sleeve with the Andreev flag and the inscription "ROA". The soldiers and officers were dressed in German uniforms.

Vlasov never wore the uniform of the ROA and the German form; he wore a specially tailored jacket without insignia and epaulettes.

The formed ROA did not participate in battles with Soviet troops, in February 1945 three ROA platoons took part in battles against the 230 of the Soviet rifle division and the 1 division in early April 1945 participated in battles with the Germans in the area of ​​Fürstenberg against the 33 th Soviet army, after that all parts of the ROA were withdrawn to the rear. The Nazi leadership did not trust the Vlasov army and was afraid to keep it at the front. The ROA remained a purely propaganda organization, and not a real combat formation.

In late April, the leadership of the ROA decided to withdraw from the subordination of the German command and make its way to the west in order to surrender to the Anglo-American troops. The 1-I division of the ROA under the command of Bunyachenko was in the area of ​​Prague, where the Czech rebellion broke out in May 5.

To prove to the Americans that the Vlasovites fought against the Germans, Bunyachenko decided to support the rebellious Czechs and opposed the Germans, especially since the Germans did not let them through Prague. In the morning of 7 on May Vlasovites occupied several parts of Prague and disarmed part of the German garrison. Stubborn battles with the Germans began, which by the end of the day ended with a truce, and together with the Germans the 1-I ROA division left Prague and headed west to surrender to the Americans.

Vlasov, with his headquarters, hoped to surrender to the Americans and go to serve them, since he was counting on a new war between the USSR and the USA. The ROA headquarters established contact with the Americans and tried to agree on the terms of delivery. Almost all formations and units of the ROA reached the American zone of occupation. But here a cold welcome awaited them. In accordance with an agreement with the Soviet command, all of them were to be returned to the Soviet zone of occupation.

The headquarters of the 1th division of the ROA, in which both Vlasov and individual parts of the division were at the junction of the American and Soviet zones of occupation, were advancing into the American zone. The command of the 25 Tank Corps gave the command to the scouts to find the headquarters and capture Vlasov. Scouts intercepted a column of Vlasovites, in which Vlasov and Bunyachenko were, they were captured.

Vlasov was asked to write an order to surrender his troops. He wrote such an order and in two days parts of the 1th Division surrendered in the amount of 9 thousand people. Vlasov was immediately sent to Moscow.



In May, almost the entire command of the ROA was arrested in the Soviet zone of occupation or transferred by the Americans. They were sent to Moscow, where they were interrogated, put on trial and executed. The personnel of the ROA was also transferred by the Americans to the Soviet command. At the end of the war in the ROA and the Cossack units and units subordinate to it, there were 120-130 thousand personnel, including command of the army and formations, three divisions, two incomplete separate corps, a reserve reserve team, command of the Cossack troops, two Cossack cavalry corps, auxiliary troops and two intelligence schools. Basically it was a bunch of traitors and traitors, for one reason or another, who sided with the Nazis.

So the military career of the general and the failed ruler of non-communist Russia under the protectorate of the Nazis ended pitifully. The expressions “Vlasov” and “Vlasovites” will forever remain in the memory of our people as a symbol of betrayal and treason, no matter how much the prototype of these symbols may have.
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  1. stroybat ZABVO
    stroybat ZABVO 21 October 2019 05: 14 New
    22
    Hangs well.
    In the photo, the last one hangs well.
    1. Greg Miller
      Greg Miller 21 October 2019 12: 01 New
      +5
      "Nothing smells as good as the corpse of your enemy" ...
      1. Proxima
        Proxima 21 October 2019 13: 38 New
        +9
        Indeed, Vlasov became the stmvol of the infamous pure water of betrayal. If he had been tortured in captivity or if he would have harbored a helper on the Soviet regime, let’s say his relatives were repressed (dispossessed). There was nothing like that, the Soviet government fostered him as a beloved child! Simply, this non-humans loved to live and live in a big way. And he did not care where to make a career - in the Red Army, in the Wehrmacht or among the Americans. TRAITOR!!!
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 21 October 2019 17: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: Proxima
          There was nothing like that, the Soviet government fostered him as a beloved child! Simply, this non-humans loved to live and live in a big way. And he did not care where to make a career - in the Red Army, in the Wehrmacht or among the Americans. TRAITOR!!!

          A typical portrait of a modern liberal!
      2. iouris
        iouris 23 October 2019 11: 47 New
        +1
        Under favorable conditions, the Vlasovs receive Nobel Peace Prizes.
    2. Lexus
      Lexus 21 October 2019 14: 13 New
      -1
      You need to hang only the notorious! But the notorious must be hanged! (C) K / f "The Hateful Eight"

      For traitors, death should always be not worthy, but deserved.

  2. svp67
    svp67 21 October 2019 05: 41 New
    +5
    He noted that Vlasov stood out for his posturing and acting, his manner of speaking figuratively and cordially, and at the same time, there was an imitation in his behavior, speech, intonations and gestures.
    And who has not noticed this before? When he, as a member of the CPSU (b), since 1930, spoke at party meetings ... In the same way.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 21 October 2019 07: 34 New
      +6
      You noticed quite correctly, and it turns out that the writer Ehrenburg, after all the successes of the 20th Army near Moscow, communicated with Vlasov, and noted his posturing, and this is after all the Vlasov victories, Ehrenburg himself, as they say, quickly "changed his shoes" ...
      Vlasov's correspondence with his wife Anna Mikhailovna has now been published, and this posturing, duplicity and cheap acting of the former Soviet general is clearly visible, which, by the way, Anna Mikhailovna pointed out to him, even at the time when Vlasov's "commander" star rose.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 21 October 2019 11: 40 New
      +4
      You voiced my thoughts: didn’t anyone see his simulated posturing? As I know stories and read here, in the 30s there were various re-evaluations, purges, and judging by his career, he was beyond suspicion.
      How could this be?
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 21 October 2019 14: 56 New
        -4
        Then, in the 30s, in our country there was a complete deformation of moral and moral foundations - lies, adventurism, slander, and denunciation flourished. If you don’t convey to another today, tomorrow he may well convey to you. So it was, alas ... It was a tragedy of our country. So, in some execution lists and signatures of Vlasov is full - he participated in the work of the tribunals, etc. Therefore, he knew that if something happened, he would be quickly put to the wall, as well as not entirely guilty, which is debatable, Pavlova in July 1941 ...
        1. 210ox
          210ox 22 October 2019 03: 29 New
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          Andrey, you wrote complete nonsense ... My parents lived at that time. I already wrote how my grandfather was "driven" to the collective farm and what came of it. Probably, this story would have caused a clouding of mind among the liberals. Lies, denunciations and careerism are in any time and in any country. There is always a nasty type. However, at that time people lived, dreamed and created.
          1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 08: 30 New
            +3
            No, you are writing nonsense, just to argue with me! Both my parents and my grandmother (deceased, it is true already) lived at that time. Yes, people lived, worked, dreamed, created. I do not argue. There was an upswing, happiness, joy, success! But there was something that darkened and there was something that we later, already in the 1970s, will call "unfounded repressions." In my hometown of Vyksa, Gorky (Nizhny Novgorod) region, the director of the large Vyksa metallurgical plant "VMZ" since 1935. before the war began, they changed every year ... and everyone, if they were shot, was imprisoned. And after all, they were not enemies - the former members of the Civil War, the old Bolsheviks ... So - they managed to completely transform from patriots into enemies of the people in 15-20 years?!? I won't believe it, that's all! And my grandmother's colleague at school - for an anecdote about the authorities, he, an ordinary physical education teacher, was sent there for 20 years, well, it is clear where, and he returned home in the summer of 1956. And after all, he was not an enemy, but just a young and chatterbox! So it happened in different ways. Both the CPSU (b) and the NKVD imposed this on society. Alas. And Vlasov was a traitor even then, he was morally ready to betray, he saw and understood the situation in his own way, plus the trials over the military, starting in 1937. Yes, he could have shot himself, clearly understanding that at home the guys from the NKVD would also happily wait for him. But I decided to flounder in the hope of living! Okay, let's not quarrel about the traitor to the Motherland - we must think about the future, not about this brute !!! History has already determined the place for him, but here we are arguing and quarreling ...
        2. Sadam
          Sadam 24 October 2019 02: 42 New
          0
          that seems to me to be just a human factor - another example is Paulus how Hitler licked him and how fried he pecked right there and swam
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 21 October 2019 06: 20 New
    +3
    First it is written "So Vlasov became the commander of the doomed army and, together with the front command, during May-June, with the assistance of the 52nd and 59th armies of the Volkhov front, made desperate attempts to unblock the 2nd army, but had no success." He believed that it will always be so and was mistaken, under his command the 2nd Shock Army was surrounded. "
    1. Chit
      Chit 21 October 2019 14: 36 New
      -2
      A lot has been written on the subject. Even too much.
      It has been written repeatedly, for example, that Vlasov surrendered himself as a prisoner. Voluntarily. And the article voices interesting things. It turns out that he was handed over to the local police by an elder. The police arrested him and locked him in a barn.
      It is written that Vlasov became the commander of a doomed army. Right. But he became them AFTER the 2 shock army was surrounded. Does Vlasov also blame the environment? Or other people? For example, comrades Zhukov, Stalin and Khozin?
      Regarding the fears of Vlasov. Does he have a short memory? He forgot how to get rid of the commander of the Western Front Pavlov? And Klimovsky? For what? For the miscalculations of Stalin, Zhukov, Shaposhnikov, Kulik and Voroshilov? Vlasov did not understand that he would face the same fate? Absolutely?
      I do not condone Vlasov. He is a traitor. It so happened. But do not hang all the dogs on him. No need to blame some on others.
      No need to distort historical facts. You have to write the truth.
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 21 October 2019 14: 45 New
        +4
        That's it - you need to write the truth, but in those June days of 1941, Pavlov and the ZAPOVO command had their own mistakes and miscalculations! And do not blame everything on Stalin. He had political and strategic miscalculations, and the generals had mistakes and crimes. And then again - who forced Pavlov to shoulder this responsibility by taking command of the district? Do not pull - do not take it! Correctly?
        1. Chit
          Chit 21 October 2019 16: 25 New
          -2
          Miscalculations miscalculations are different.
          Of course, Pavlov had his own miscalculations. But at its own level.
          But Stalin and Zhukov had a different level. And responsibility for miscalculations at such a higher level should be an order of magnitude higher.
          And what in fact?
          In fact, they found scapegoats - Pavlov, Klimovsky, Vlasov, etc.
          Are the others not guilty of anything?
          Is Stalin, who is now sculpting monuments, not to blame for anything? Who made terrible political miscalculations on the eve of the war, which cost us tens of millions of lives? Who was so confident in his exclusivity and God's chosenness that he considered only his opinion to be the only true one? Who didn’t give a damn about intelligence reports, completely ignored the instantly changing international situation? Who was not even able to predict the outbreak of war for the USSR? Which did not allow the attack of Hitler? Is this a strategist? Is this a commander? Not seeing beyond his own nose?
          Further. Zhukov. Zhukov did not know what was going on with Pavlov in the Western District? The Chief of General Staff did not know the balance of power there? The state of defense? Concentration of troops? Defense line configuration? If everything was bad, why didn’t he take action?
          If everything was fine, why did they shoot Pavlov?
          If you begin to write the truth, white clothes instantly fall from the figures of comrades Stalin and Zhukov. And for some, this oh, I don’t want to. And therefore, the truth we will not wait.
          1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 21 October 2019 17: 05 New
            -5
            You know, I will not argue with you, because I agree to all 1000%! And God forbid that our descendants understand and put everything in its place.
          2. Sadam
            Sadam 24 October 2019 02: 49 New
            +1
            Kirpanos or Romel or .... shot themselves - probably this is implied by an acceptable summing up ...
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 21 October 2019 17: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: Chit
        Regarding the fears of Vlasov. Does he have a short memory? He forgot how to get rid of the commander of the Western Front Pavlov? And Klimovsky? For what? For the miscalculations of Stalin, Zhukov, Shaposhnikov, Kulik and Voroshilov? Vlasov did not understand that he would face the same fate? Absolutely?

        ... and the plane that landed in the location of the encircled 2nd shock army to evacuate Vlasov and the Headquarters, this was exclusively done to shoot them !? Do not count the people in the Headquarters for full cr..tiny!
        1. Chit
          Chit 22 October 2019 09: 13 New
          -5
          Yeah. In about the same way, the Motherland invited Richard Sorge to return home. Persistently. Unless the plane sent, it was impossible to do so.
          Yes, here it is - for some reason, Sorge kicked back from such an opportunity with his hands and feet. Perhaps he, too, was all right with his memory? And with logic?
          1. Proxima
            Proxima 22 October 2019 13: 07 New
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            Quote: Chit
            Yeah. Perhaps he, too, was all right with his memory? And with logic?

            With logic, you are in complete mess! Why waste resources and send an airplane, and then shoot Vlasov with headquarters if the Germans would have done so well. Obviously, the Headquarters was well aware that Vlasov was a fire brigade and there was no fault in the disaster of the 2nd Shock Army. Although, in hindsight, we all perfectly understand - it would be better if this pad.al was taken out and shot!
          2. NKT
            NKT 22 October 2019 18: 19 New
            0
            Who will shoot generals when captains commanded regiments?
            The plane was exclusively sent to take it out. Just like Komkor Petrovsky, a plane flew in with an order to take command of the 21st Army, but he also refused.
    2. Serg koma
      Serg koma 23 October 2019 05: 28 New
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      The command of the 25th Panzer Corps gave the command scouts find the headquarters and capture Vlasov. Scouts a column of Vlasovites was intercepted, in which Vlasov and Bunyachenko were, they were captured.

      The task was set not to scouts, but to mechbat 162 Tbr.
      At 16.00:12 on May 1945, XNUMX, Colonel Mishchenko set the task to the commander of the mechanized battalion 162 brigade captain Yakushev go to the location of the 1st division of the ROA and capture Vlasov with his headquarters and division commander Buyanichenko.

      After the first inspection of Comrade Yakushev did not find Vlasov, but one of the drivers of the convoy showed the car in which Vlasov was located.
      Approaching Vlasov’s car, comrade Yakushev found himself hiding behind a blanket and obscured by the translator and the woman Vlasov who were sitting in the car.

      At the order of Comrade Yakusheva got out of the car and followed him to the headquarters of the 162 TBR Vlasov refused, explaining his refusal by the fact that he was going to the headquarters of the American army and was located at the disposal of American troops.
      Only under the threat of the execution of Comrade Yakushev forced to get into Vlasov’s car. On the way, Vlasov made an attempt to jump out of the car, but was detained.

      Following to the location of the brigade headquarters, comrade Yakushev met Commander Brigade Comrade Mishchenko. Comrade Yakushev handed Vlasov to Colonel Mishchenko.
      Quotes from the report of the Commander of the 25th Tank Corps of the Guard of Major General T / V. Fominykh
      Chief of Staff Colonel Zubkov
      So no intelligence officers - a banal arrest (not a word about the clash in the report) of a large military unit. How many armed "fighters" were together with Vlasov in the column is not reported, but -
      As a result of the capture of Vlasov on May 13 and 14, 1945, the 1st Division in the amount of 9 thousand people was disarmed.
      5 tanks, 5 self-propelled guns, 2 armored personnel carriers, 3 armored vehicles, 30 cars of cars, 64 trucks, 1378 horses were taken.
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 23 October 2019 06: 59 New
        0
        "For Vlasov" was awarded -
        "ORDER OF THE PRESIDIUM
        USSR SUPREME SOVIET
        ABOUT AWARDING ORDERS
        GENERALS, OFFICERS
        AND ORDER OF HAPPINESS
        RED ARMY

        For the successful completion of the special task of the front command to award:

        ORDER OF SUVOROVA 11 DEGREE
        1. Mayor Vinogradov Pakhom Timofeevich.
        2. Senior Lieutenant Ignashkin Ilya Petrovich.
        3. Colonel Mishchenko Ivan Petrovich.
        4.General Major of Tank Troops Evgeny Ivanovich Fomins
        5. Captain Yakushov Mikhail Ivanovich.

        ORDER OF DOMESTIC WAR 1 DEGREES
        Captain Kuchinsky Pyotr Nikolaevich.

        ORDER OF DOMESTIC WAR11 DEGREES
        1. Dovgas Alexander Stepanovich.
        2. Komzolov Ilya Nikitovich.



        Chairman of the Presidium
        USSR Supreme Council
        M.KALININ
        Secretary of the Presidium
        USSR Supreme Council
        A. GORKIN
        Moscow Kremlin. 19 June 1945 year.

        Only now there is NO "award" for "Memory of the People" for this operation on Captain Mikhail Ivanovich Yakushov (again, the clerk tried am ).
        There is an awarding of the captain Yakushev Mikhail Ivanovich "Order of Suvorov II degree"

        Interesting - the award found the Hero?
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 23 October 2019 07: 31 New
          +1
          KUCHINSKY Petr Nikolaevich
          19 June Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR "for the successful completion of a special task of command at the front»Awarded the Order of the Patriotic War 1-th degree. September 2 sent to continue serving in the 28-th reserve rifle regiment of the 12-th rifle division in the camp Alkino.
          Anyone interested in the details of the capture of Vlasov in 1945 - "break through" information on this person.
  4. Amateur
    Amateur 21 October 2019 06: 20 New
    +3
    Why again about this rubbish. Hanged him and enough about him. Dog-dog death.
    1. Mcar
      Mcar 21 October 2019 06: 36 New
      +6
      Quote: Amateur
      Why again about this rubbish. Hanged him and enough about him.

      Children come here too. At school they don’t talk about it or tongue twister. Look at street polls of graduates of the school on the Second World War - there are those who do not even know this last name.

      Education should go in the coordinate system good / bad. Both good examples and bad ones. Otherwise, how do you know that one way or another to act meanly, low?
      1. atos_kin
        atos_kin 21 October 2019 12: 29 New
        0
        Here's more about the traitors
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 21 October 2019 08: 14 New
      +2
      It is imperative to show and tell constantly about this traitor ... who reached the point where he shook hands with the executioner and butcher of Hitler Germany Himmler (the author correct this under the photograph) ... at least as an edification to our modern traitors, the liberals who are ready to do the service for the sake of their liberal views our opponents hehe partners.
  5. igordok
    igordok 21 October 2019 06: 29 New
    +1
    The ROA was formed in September 1944 and was staffed by units of the disbanded RNNA and RONA and members of the eastern battalions that had managed to prove themselves earlier in the occupied territory. There were a minority of Soviet prisoners of war, there were also few white emigrants, since they considered the Vlasovites to be "the same Bolsheviks."

    Guards brigade ROA that existed in 1943. to ROA Vlasov has nothing to do. Disbanded after a massive transition to the partisans and a small "riot". "Famous" for the parade on June 22, 1943 in Pskov.
    1. rusin
      rusin 21 October 2019 11: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: igordok
      ROA Guards Brigade that existed in 1943. has no relation to ROA Vlasov.

      Vlasov in general in 1943 was only concerned with propaganda. At the headquarters of the Guards Brigade there was a representative of Vlasov, the self-proclaimed Lieutenant General Zhilenkov, the brigade commissar of the Red Army, but his role was at the furniture level. As Yury Apukhtin correctly said. Russian liberation army, which existed before in virtual space, all the soldiers and officers of the so-called "ROA battalions" were listed as servicemen of the German Wehrmacht. However, the author did not mention that after the formation of the Committee for the Liberation of the Peoples of Russia, its formations received the name Armed Forces KONRThe name ROA was used only out of habit and in connection with the use of the old chevrons of the Russian Liberation Army.
  6. Mcar
    Mcar 21 October 2019 06: 29 New
    +9
    What pushed Vlasov to the path of betrayal?
    .................
    Apparently, he simply did not have any convictions, he was driven by ambition and ambition, most of all in his life he loved fame and career growth and made his way upstairs in any way. Buoyant and feminine, he wanted under all circumstances to live in a big way.

    About the lack of conviction, ambition, thirst for glory, etc. everything is true. But the main thing is different - he did not have honor.

    When a civilian goes over to the side of the enemy, he is certainly a traitor. But when the military takes the side of the enemy, the officer, and even as a general, is a traitor to an infinite degree. Well, if you decided to devote your life to the defense of the Fatherland, and besides, you swore an oath ... how can you fall so low? For what? For the sake of fame? Which one? For the sake of a career? Serving whom? .. It seems to me all the easier - for the sake of a sweet life. For the sake of grub and women.

    Well, and in order to somehow justify his meanness, for the lack of honor, the hackneyed disc of "the struggle against Bolshevism" was used. There are plenty of such fighters for "Russia's happiness" even now. And the higher, the thicker they are. And at the very top there are almost no others.
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  8. midshipman
    midshipman 21 October 2019 07: 16 New
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    But on the border of the Leningrad and Novgorod regions there is a settlement Zuevo. It is named after the commissar of the 2nd Shock Army. Zuev led the Red Army out of the encirclement, but with one of these conclusions he died on the railway embankment Nothing is written about him anywhere.
  9. Leopold
    Leopold 21 October 2019 07: 18 New
    +7
    The photo signed by "Vlasov and Goebbels" looks like not Goebbels, but Himmler.
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    3. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 21 October 2019 08: 11 New
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      Himmler definitely.
  10. haron
    haron 21 October 2019 07: 31 New
    +1
    I think that the reasons for Vlasov’s betrayal are a little more complicated than indicated in the article, or simpler .. It depends on the priorities in the life of the reader of this article itself. But certainly the reason and reason will not fit into three lines of text.
    If you take the root causes, you can start from the fact that he was the 13th and last child in the family of parents, that the formation of his adolescent character occurred during the revolution. There is something to write about and something to disclose.
    But the reason is another story. But the reason for what? That he could not shoot himself? Here plays a role and his character, and the fact that he studied in a theological seminary, the lack of clear ideals, a lot of things. However, Vlasov did not plan to give up until the last. They write that when the Germans arrested him, he tried to impersonate a school teacher. Surrendered (figuratively) he is already in captivity.
    And here several things can be significant. The fact that Meretskov left him in the cauldron, that the retreat and withdrawal of the second shock were failed by the command of the operas of the Khozin group. Many things.
    If you approach the topic with a creative and dry head, you can find the true reason for the betrayal of Vlasov; even working only with the generally available facts listed in the article. But IMHO, this is not enough for an interesting job.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 21 October 2019 11: 56 New
      +3
      "when the Germans were arrested, he tried to impersonate a school teacher" huh, did all the teachers wear a general's uniform? But what about this: "I do not shoot, General Vlasov"? ' You probably read vertically, because this phrase completely crosses out the written: "I tried to impersonate a school teacher."
    2. KVU-NSVD
      KVU-NSVD 21 October 2019 13: 20 New
      +6
      Quote: haron
      I think that the reasons for the betrayal of Vlasov are a little more complicated

      Quote: haron
      If you take the root causes


      Quote: haron
      the formation of his adolescent character occurred during the revolution.

      And for me so do not care about his inner experiences and subconscious motives. The general of the Red Army, surrendered, violated the oath, deliberately collaborated with the enemy, with arms stood against the people of the conqueror - so that he met the gallows in justice. And the reason - for me, I just always wanted to eat tasty food at any cost and preferably in a high status. So he collaborated with the murderers of his people, if the Americans didn’t extradite him, he would have vilely spoiled his homeland for a long time with a smart, handsome look. I join the first comment in the discussions - it hangs well ... a pleasant sight.
      1. Sadam
        Sadam 24 October 2019 03: 12 New
        0
        4 boilers of half a million each and each had the last cartridge had a choice ... hmm on the couch, all patriots here ... he certainly and all that .... would you be able to press?
        1. KVU-NSVD
          KVU-NSVD 26 October 2019 10: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Sadam
          4 boilers of half a million each and each had the last cartridge had a choice ... hmm on the couch, all patriots here ... he certainly and all that .... would you be able to press?

          I do not condemn those who have been captured, I condemn those who have become traitors.
  11. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
    Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 21 October 2019 08: 14 New
    +1
    Gentlemen, excuse me, how much can you write about a traitor ??? Enough already? He was and remains vile and disgusting, although some people are trying in some ways to find the smallest zeppochki to whitewash him ...
    1. haron
      haron 21 October 2019 11: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      how much can you write about a traitor ??? Enough already?

      Do not tell.
      It is necessary to write that there would be no more such traitors. The question is how to write.
      It is necessary to understand the true reason for his betrayal, which in no way can be explained only by his character. Higher officers with more serious personality problems came into the spacecraft, but Vlasov betrayed him and not them.
      Quite a lot of deformed personalities were removed from the leadership in 36 - 39 years. One Tukhachevsky, in his erosion and arrogance, easily surpasses the three hairy ones.
      Without understanding the true reason, it is impossible to effectively avoid this in the future. And this is a whole complex of situations that led to betrayal. And the character of Vlasov plays an important but far from the main role.
      Please note that Vlasov was broken already in captivity when good psychologists from former compatriots worked with him. On what happened to him before the captivity, they successfully overlaid a picture of the negative taken out of context. This is a sophistry of pure water, but in the case of Vlasov it worked. The question remains - why? And he is not fully disclosed in the article.
      PS. Vlasov never wore a German uniform, ROA insignia, awards .... only a jacket and a cap with a tricolor cockade. Why? He was not given, or he did not want? Why was he against helping the Czechs? There are many questions whose answers are important for the present and future.
      1. Astra wild
        Astra wild 21 October 2019 12: 06 New
        +3
        Charon, in general, I agree with you, but: "Vlasov was broken already in captivity" twice not: "if he had not been broken, he would not have said:" I do not shoot, General Vlasov ", and then" unbroken "is in a hurry to inform where Zhukov can hit
        1. haron
          haron 21 October 2019 17: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Astra wild
          "if it had not been broken, I would not have said:" do not shoot, I am General Vlasov "

          Take a look at how controversial the facts are.
          1. Vlasov was handed over by the local headman from whom he and his woman were looking for food. The headman received a cow, vodka, makhorka and a cake for this. Why pay the headman for a general who wanted to surrender himself? Why did the police wait almost two days for the arrival of the Germans, locking Vlasov in a student, and not dragging such a valuable trophy immediately "to the Gestapa." Only the Germans unambiguously confirmed the identity of Vlasov. Everything that happened next is known only from the words of the Germans, and it is beneficial for them to show that he surrendered himself.
          Remember what went from the Hans according to Jacob Dzhugashvilli. Not having achieved full cooperation from that, they published the interrogation and photos, in the end they tried to exchange them for Paulus. Work according to the principle "From a bad cow, even a tuft of wool."
          In this situation, the Germans Vlasov could be captured only voluntarily.
          At the expense of Zhukov. Information about the delivery of information on Zhukov was disseminated almost immediately after the capture. "warned that Zhukov was preparing something" this is nothing. The Germans do not have something to shake in front of all the standing information. And look at the battle plan, what operations were planned by the Red Army in June-July 42nd as strategic. Of course he passed what he knew, but not "Zhukov".
          As it was in fact, we are unlikely to ever know. Doing speculation is to deceive ourselves ... if this is not propaganda of course (koya takes place on existence and necessity). I personally need a moment of truth.
          1. Polymer
            Polymer 21 October 2019 20: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: haron
            "From a bad cow, even a tuft of wool

            In the original - "from the black sheep". No wool is cut from a cow, even a very good one.
            1. haron
              haron 22 October 2019 06: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Polymer
              With a cow, even a very good one, the hair is not sheared.

              The fact of the matter is that chances from a cow could also cut wool)) that is, to fantasize.
              it was necessary to put a smiley on me.
          2. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 13: 11 New
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            My answer to you is very simple: put yourself in the place of Vlasov in that particular situation and that’s all. Well, plus that, analyze his experience of 1941 - yes, in fact, he had no experience in 1941 ... So: we do not consider the defense of Kiev. There others fought and died ... He defended the capital’s defense. So, as of the spring of 1942, he really had no positive, real combat experience - only the experience of retreats and defense, and even then often behind other people. (Five of my family members fought in that war in different ranks and in various branches of the army. Something was said, sometimes remembered, by those who lived until the 1970s. So, let the war veterans forgive me, but in 1942 we were still very inexperienced, insecure and weak. Experience began to come after the summer of 1943, after two years of war. My relatives confirm this too. Probably, this is true.) Let's go back to Vlasov: and then he realizes that the situation is stalemate for him : throw troops on a plane to Moscow - first a conversation with Stalin and Zhukov, and then to the bones of the NKVD ... and a bullet in the back of the head in the basement? Shoot yourself? The remnants of religious morality, apparently, are not allowed. Or cowardice. To pick up a machine gun and go on the attack with the fighters to get a German bullet in the forehead? Shyness probably hindered. Well, the foul from a past life pushed him to treason. Although ... fight Vlasov in the Arctic, where the front stood on the spot until 1944, so maybe he would have ended the marshal and at the Victory Parade in 1945 would have stood next to Stalin at the mausoleum. But this is an alternative speculation. The story took place as it took place. And the dog had a dog death!
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 October 2019 13: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Gentlemen, excuse me, how much can you write about a traitor ??? Enough already?

      You're not right. It is necessary to write - and not hiding and not hushing up what Vlasov was considered to be before his betrayal. And always with the ending - "Hang well". To remind: no past merits of a traitor can become an indulgence and will not save one from a just punishment.
    3. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 16: 15 New
      -1
      If you do not learn history, then history will teach you. The origins of such a thing as betrayal in wartime are worthy of a close study. After all, there were refugees from the Soviet army in 1945, and the number of voluntary participants in the war on the side of the Germans from the citizens of the USSR was just off the scale.
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 13: 25 New
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        By the way, about the defectors: my grandfather / dad / fought in the winter of 1945 in East Prussia somewhere in the Koenigsberg area. After the rest, their division was understaffed both by the inhabitants of the liberated regions of Belarus, Ukraine, the Baltic states, and also by ours, who worked in the lordly estates of the Germans - there was such a thing in the war too. So, the winter of 1945, before the Victory, it was already a few months, and two Balts from their company ran to the Germans. In the middle of the day. And no one offended them. And no hazing. And they seemed to be fed better than in 1941. And they fought quite well that way. But this couple ran across and that’s it! ... The mind is incomprehensible ... For me personally, this is still a mystery. Hence the conclusion: the inside and the nature of the traitor and defector FIG understand.
    4. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 22 October 2019 12: 03 New
      +1
      This individual fits well with the popular wisdom: "the better you treat a person, the more meanness you should expect from him!"
  12. bubalik
    bubalik 21 October 2019 11: 45 New
    +4
    In total, three divisions of the ROA were formed. One of them did not have weapons at all, the other did not have heavy weapons, having only small arms. And only 1-I division ROA

    ,, were also:
    The first air regiment of the ROA Air Force, formed in Eger, was led by Colonel L. Baidak.
    Major S. Bychkov became the commander of the 5th fighter squadron.
    The 2 assault squadron, then renamed the squadron of night bombers, was led by Captain B. Antilevsky.
    The 3th Reconnaissance Squadron was commanded by Captain S. Artemyev,
    5-th educational - training - captain M. Tarnovsky.
    According to historian J. Hoffmann, the strength of the Vlasov Army Air Force reached about 5000 people.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 21 October 2019 13: 21 New
      +2
      Quote: bubalik
      the air force of the Vlasov army reached

      These air forces existed formally.
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 13: 32 New
        0
        Both formally and not very: a couple of days they seemed to have fought, even with ours. Then they surrendered to the British, but they did not give them out - many were former White Guards there and did not have USSR citizenship. There the English general hesitated, but decided not to issue and did not satisfy our request, although ours asked very much! ...
    2. Kenxnumx
      Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 16: 10 New
      +2
      Major S. Bychkov to the word GSS
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 21 October 2019 16: 57 New
        +2
        GSS word

        Antilevsky too ,,, was.
        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 21 October 2019 19: 09 New
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          Dear Bubalik, where can I read about: Bychkov, Antilevsky and this whole company? Preferably in electronic form
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 21 October 2019 19: 16 New
            +3
            hi can read
            http://airaces.narod.ru/all6/bychkov4.htm
      2. bober1982
        bober1982 21 October 2019 17: 25 New
        +2
        Quote: Ken71
        Major S. Bychkov to the word GSS

        So what? M.S. Gorbachev was awarded two orders of Lenin, the Order of the October Revolution, the Order of the Red Banner of Labor, etc., and so on.
        N.S. Khrushchev - the five orders of Lenin (!!!!!) and the hero of Socialist Labor, military orders of Suvorov and Kutuzov, and so on and so forth.
        It,by the way speaking, that is - the price is worthless to all these awards, as well as Bychkov with his GSS- the price is also worthless ..
        1. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 17: 37 New
          +1
          Worthless? The question is the reasons.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 21 October 2019 17: 44 New
            -1
            And, five orders of Lenin - Khrushchev, what turns out, is also worthless?
            1. Kenxnumx
              Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 17: 48 New
              +2
              Orders of leaders from the evil one. He was not a commander. Perhaps an effective manager.
              1. bober1982
                bober1982 21 October 2019 17: 52 New
                -1
                Quote: Ken71
                Order of the leaders from the evil one

                General Kalugin - awarded the Order of the Red Star, the Order of the Battle Red Banner, for what? for hitting a residency?
                What are you as a child.
                1. Kenxnumx
                  Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 17: 57 New
                  -1
                  I don’t understand what we are arguing about :)
                  1. bober1982
                    bober1982 21 October 2019 18: 03 New
                    -1
                    Yes, talking, we must finish, all the best!
                2. BAI
                  BAI 22 October 2019 09: 27 New
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                  Do not forget that in the USSR (and even now (for example, Patrushev)), large bosses were given military orders for anniversaries (personal, of the headed organization, a higher organization, etc.) and on holidays.
                3. haron
                  haron 22 October 2019 21: 56 New
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                  Quote: bober1982
                  General Kalugin - awarded the Order of the Red Star, the Order of the Battle Red Banner, for what? for hitting a residency?
                  What are you as a child.

                  Sorry, but Kalugin somehow somehow became a general. And he did not hand over his residency from the beginning of his service. And his awards are not fake, but in the most real ones - well-deserved.
                  Or do you want to say that Kalugin was born a traitor, and that the teachers at school, the teachers of two closed universities, all the leadership of the special services of the USSR and his friends (with whom Kalugin worked closely until his collapse) did they all profane an obvious traitor?
                  In fact, Kalugin has more than 22 state awards for operational work. He betrayed people, colleagues, maybe friends, but not whose country he swore. He may be a scoundrel, but ideological.
                  So who is the child here yet to think about.
                  It is impossible to understand the cause of the disease and prevent an epidemic without studying its cause thoroughly.
        2. Astra wild
          Astra wild 21 October 2019 19: 01 New
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          A Brezhnev Order of Victory.
          1. bober1982
            bober1982 21 October 2019 19: 30 New
            0
            Party rewarded! There is such a party!
  13. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 21 October 2019 13: 25 New
    +1
    I never liked this character, but thanks to the author for the article. I read it with great interest. You need to know not only about the heroes, but also about the traitors. Where do they come from and most importantly - where do they go)
  14. Unknown
    Unknown 21 October 2019 13: 29 New
    +2
    they come to betrayal, only out of selfish interests, that’s the point. and all sorts of fabrications such as the Soviet regime did not accept, and the struggle with I.V. STALIN is a cheap excuse for the very fact of betrayal. It’s interesting to know how the author would accept this alignment, get scared, abandon the fighters to the mercy of fate, fear his own more than the Germans, and together with the PJ surrender voluntarily to prisoner? all the same, it’s better to surrender with a woman in captivity; she will both calm and sip. Here is such a Vlasov. how Efremov and his fighters to break through, the spirit was not enough, and so with PZP captured, with camphor. only traitors do not like anywhere, even in the same Germany the attitude to Paulus and Seidlitz is strictly negative. they’re not trying to justify traitors here. although the one and the other, although surrendered, but with their soldiers, did not board the plane, and flew away, although there was a possibility. in Germany, even after the war, they boycotted Marlene Dietrich because she was a German on the side of the United States during the war. Germany did not forgive her. and we will always find authors who will try to dissuade either Vlasov or Pavlov, and I won’t be surprised if an article appears also about the trash that hangs nearby.
    1. Astra wild
      Astra wild 21 October 2019 18: 52 New
      0
      I don’t know who Trukhin is, and Pavlov was not hanged, but was shot in 1941. But 1941, Voroshilov tried to smear Pavlova to the last.
      1. Unknown
        Unknown 21 October 2019 20: 22 New
        +1
        and you don’t need to know the trash, the bastard is still. about Pavlov, no one was stopping him, the more Voroshilov, in that case, they were more important then. So give the link. About Voroshilov before saying this. we have already discussed this topic, read the verdict on the Internet it is.
        1. Astra wild
          Astra wild 24 October 2019 21: 00 New
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          I read Martirosyan. There was a d / f on TV and it was mentioned there, it seems Voroshilov suggested that he be put at the head of the tank corps or division.
  15. Kenxnumx
    Kenxnumx 21 October 2019 14: 10 New
    -2
    Fangs then well done as the time ill. True, this did not stop him from surviving to eight dozen. And Vlasov seemed to have very serious enemies who set him up for a completely disastrous business, where he basically could not do anything. And it seems that the organizational conclusions based on the results of this hopeless case scared him much more than the Germans. Although, of course, nothing can excuse direct betrayal. In the end, the Germans were in captivity dozens of generals of the Red Army, who did not cooperate.
    1. bober1982
      bober1982 21 October 2019 17: 39 New
      -1
      I liked your comment, but with some reservations.
      Quote: Ken71
      Fangs, well done, how ill in time

      I agree.
      Quote: Ken71
      And Vlasov seems to have had very serious enemies who set him up for a completely disastrous business, where he basically could not do anything

      I also agree, although if he had enemies, then only from among his many women.
      Vlasov, the 2nd Shock was not driven into a sack, those who had ruined the Army, understood that it was impossible to save it, they sat out for a while, and he was literally put into hell.
      Quote: Ken71
      there were dozens of generals of the Red Army who did not cooperate.

      There were many generals of the Red Army, from among the prisoners who went to cooperate with the Germans.
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 21 October 2019 18: 58 New
      +1
      "The organizational conclusions based on the results of this hopeless case frightened much more than the Germans," but apparently other generals were not frightened at all?
    3. Polymer
      Polymer 21 October 2019 20: 48 New
      0
      Quote: Ken71
      who set him up for a completely disastrous business, where he basically could not do anything.

      So he himself wanted to substitute Vinogradov. But it didn’t work out.
      1. Rey_ka
        Rey_ka 22 October 2019 12: 17 New
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        so to argue like that in a failed case and Zhukov put Moscow in defense. The genius of the commander consists in the fact that to choose that meager percentage of probability from all possibilities. So Vlasov was not so brilliant as the Party and Stalin believed in him. And he wasn’t even just a decent person
        1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
          Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 13: 49 New
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          But I’ll argue with your first proposal: it was not a failure to defend Moscow Zhukov then! You discard the divisions of the national militia (DNO) and the Red Army divisions that came from Siberia and the Far East — Zhukov knew perfectly well about this. Plus the patriotism of the people in those days. Yes, the Germans would have been drawn into street battles, as in Stalingrad in a year, and this is unequivocal. And our reinforcements would come from day to day. So Zhukov in any case would be a hero-defender of Moscow, and if he died - then posthumously! And he did not spare people, so he would defend the capital, whatever one may say! But smart and brave is a fact.
        2. Kenxnumx
          Kenxnumx 22 October 2019 20: 55 New
          -1
          The banner of the army was taken to the mainland a week or two after Vlasov led it. Do you understand how disastrous this was? But under the command of Vlasov part of the forces managed to withdraw. However, he himself, by the way, and Efremov ultimately lost control in the complete absence of food, fuel, communications and ammunition.
    4. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 22 October 2019 13: 36 New
      0
      Yes, and we were captured German generals who did not cooperate with us. For betrayal is betrayal. Everyone and at all times!
  16. 1536
    1536 21 October 2019 16: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: Proxima
    Indeed, Vlasov became the stmvol of the infamous pure water of betrayal. If he had been tortured in captivity or if he would have harbored a helper on the Soviet regime, let’s say his relatives were repressed (dispossessed). There was nothing like that, the Soviet government fostered him as a beloved child! Simply, this non-humans loved to live and live in a big way. And he did not care where to make a career - in the Red Army, in the Wehrmacht or among the Americans. TRAITOR!!!

    This is the tragedy: they betray their own, and not strangers.
  17. Desdecado
    Desdecado 21 October 2019 16: 53 New
    0
    Vlasov's "case" won, there are no Bolsheviks in Russia, but there is a government that treats its citizens and the country like the Germans in occupied territory ..
    1. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 22 October 2019 12: 19 New
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      It would seem that what does the Government have to do with it? Do you consider yourself better than others and if you / the Government acted differently? there is a Russian proverb: To live with wolves according to the wolf howl also concerns you
  18. parusnik
    parusnik 21 October 2019 20: 24 New
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    It is a pity that the author did not remember General D.M.Karbyshev ...
  19. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 21 October 2019 21: 02 New
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    Quote: parusnik
    It is a pity that the author did not remember General D.M.Karbyshev ...

    And about the Oath ...
  20. sidoroff
    sidoroff 22 October 2019 09: 12 New
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    "The front command sent a special plane to evacuate the army headquarters, but the staff of the headquarters refused to abandon their soldiers, and Vlasov joined them."
    the plane was sent for Vlasov, and not for some "staff members". and only he himself could refuse to fly and throw his soldiers.
    so, if only "he loved fame and career growth and made his way up in any way. A life-lover and a woman-lover, he wanted to live on a grand scale under all circumstances" - he would have got on a plane and left without any problems. to another duty station. everything happened.
    33 Army commander Lieutenant General Efremov had the opportunity to fly away, but remained with the remnants of the army and died.
    1. Rey_ka
      Rey_ka 22 October 2019 12: 22 New
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      To summarize: The better you relate to a person, the greater meanness to expect from him in one word. Man-ungrateful T_var (from the word Creation)
    2. Astra wild
      Astra wild 24 October 2019 21: 06 New
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      I am amazed: everyone knows who Vlasov is, but they still try to somehow shield the traitor
  21. Burdock
    Burdock 26 October 2019 21: 25 New
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    How easy is it now to stigmatize traitors and rejoice that they hanged, shot, really only commissar children? Maybe you should throw off your leather jacket and look easier at that time. And at that time, very many suffered from burrs of power. From red terror, executions, collectivization, famines, prisons. People of that era had something to hate the Bolsheviks for. Maybe one of the fiery prosecutors would like to give a five-year plan with a wheelbarrow and a kyle for three years, or work hard on the collective farm’s land, and at least for nothing to do, go to the camp? Not in officers but with a gun, but as millions of ordinary Russians? No wanting? The USSR of the 70s, this is not the USSR after the Civil War or pre-war time. The Germans had no reason to hate the USSR and for their atrocities they got what they deserved, but some of the citizens of the USSR had such motives. And by the way, if we take modernity, then the inhabitants of the DPR, LPR for the rest of Ukraine are considered traitors, but this is not so. These people defend their identity and the right to be themselves, and not keep up with the crowd. They did not agree with the 2014 coup, why should everyone have been happy with the 1917 coup? Don't you suppose that at that time, the Soviet government was also disgusting to many citizens, as now the Ukrainian authorities are disgusting in the Donbas?
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  23. Russian Bear_2
    Russian Bear_2 30 December 2019 11: 33 New
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    Photo is good.
  24. aiden
    aiden 31 December 2019 00: 01 New
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    His betrayal is the result of mediocre mistakes of leadership and their actions. He was brought up in greenhouse conditions, so the man turned out to be weak. A strong man would shoot himself and that’s all. But this one wanted to live, and for this he went betrayal. Here is just a simple example, in Chechnya during the years of hostilities, also commanders and soldiers moved to the Wahhabi side. Here you think, the boy is 18 years old, whose milk has not yet dried on his lips, and who keeps the machine for the second month, having heard that he will be left alive, goes over to the Wahhabi side. Is he your traitor? The same thing, in Chechnya how many children died by the stupidity of generals and betrayal. And they didn’t even bear any responsibility. None at all. In the Second World War, the same thing happened, for many generals, soldiers are garbage, and they can be sacrificed. Their mistakes went unpunished. They give birth yet.