In Ukraine, they cannot investigate the death of a conscripted tanker who "fell unsuccessfully from a ladder"

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The scandalous situation is gaining momentum in Ukraine in connection with the death of a serviceman. We are talking about a 25-year-old senior soldier (analogous to the rank of corporal), who served on conscription in the 169 training center tank troops in the Chernihiv region.

In Ukraine, they cannot investigate the death of a conscripted tanker who "fell unsuccessfully from a ladder"




The media reported that the senior soldier Roman Biruk 13 in October entered the local hospital with an injury that turned out to be incompatible with life. Doctors diagnosed a “severe craniocerebral trauma” in a serviceman of the Armed Forces, because of which he died. When a soldier entered the department, those accompanying him reported that he “stumbled on the stairs and unsuccessfully fell.”

National police officers tried to clarify the circumstances of Biruk’s “unsuccessful fall,” however, Ukrainian law enforcement officers were not allowed to enter the territory of the military unit of the Desna training center.

But, as it turns out, the scandal is not even connected with the strange death of a soldier of military service, but with the fact that now it is virtually impossible to contact the military prosecutor’s office.

This is connected with this: the new Ukrainian authorities decided to reform the structure of the Main Military Prosecutor's Office, re-subordinating it. And today in Ukraine there is a paradoxical situation when there is simply no one to turn to for consideration in such incidents in the armed forces. It is reported that in the Chernihiv region there are no longer military prosecutors responsible for this kind of supervision, because the case was initiated by civilian structures, but at the same time, the command of the unit did not allow representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs to investigate the case, saying that it was not their competence. The investigation of the case is at an impasse.
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  2. -7
    18 October 2019 17: 04
    We also recently moved the BTR guy, there were stories in the news.
    1. +3
      18 October 2019 18: 17
      Quote: Stroporez
      We also recently moved the BTR guy, there were stories in the news.

      What does this have to do with it? Are you specifically "mowing" under ... a non-understanding? I explain (not for you). We are talking about the absence of control and oversight bodies in the system of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for the observance of law and order, protection from any encroachments of servicemen, ensuring security, combat effectiveness and combat readiness of the country's Armed Forces, military discipline and the established procedure for military service.
      1. -1
        18 October 2019 20: 14
        Terenin (Gennady) I’m talking about the fact that in general Ukraine’s themes must be closed and the sooner the better. The rulers will leave, and the people should somehow live together. Jambs and in our armory, including supervisory authorities, above the roof. And we only do that
        we nod to a neighbor who shrubs past the toilet, although they themselves are already on the tonsils.
  3. +1
    18 October 2019 17: 12
    It’s not worth publishing such news on VO.
    No one will cheer about the incomprehensible death of a conscript in 404.
    The army is a state within a state, with its own orders and with its own "judicial" system.
    But Russia is no exception.
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      18 October 2019 17: 19
      Quote: NICK111
      But Russia is no exception

      He does not consider Russia an exception, as you put it, in this matter, judging by the fact that there were a number of intelligible articles about the deaths of conscripts of one Russian materiel unit with ill fame. So do not try to close your mouth VO with messages a la: "You don't notice the beam in your own eye."
    2. 0
      19 October 2019 07: 11
      Quote: NICK111
      Not worth it ....
      Jubilant
      No one is "rejoicing". This example examines the issue of the operation of the VP.
      This is connected with this: the new Ukrainian authorities decided to reform the structure of the Main Military Prosecutor's Office, re-subordinating it.

      "Learn from other people's mistakes ..." - is this term familiar to you?
  4. +2
    18 October 2019 17: 19
    "The soldiers called the training center in the Chernihiv region hell. Ukrainian servicemen recorded a video message in which they demonstrated the living conditions in the Desna training center in the Chernigov region. ... According to the author, the video was filmed on February 21, in a military unit. The servicemen showed rusty old car washes, broken tiles, clogged toilets, broken doors, old furniture in the barracks, cracks in the windows and mold on the walls. ... The head of the training center, ex-commander of the 93rd brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Major General Oleg Mikats called the arguments of the military " one-sided "because the center is undergoing repairs".
    1. +4
      18 October 2019 18: 13
      It's been around since God knows what times. According to legend, at the entrance there was a stele with the inscription "Desna", and the first and last letters protruded beyond the dimensions of the stele. And if you look from behind, it read "hell". And so yes, the training was tough ...
  5. +5
    18 October 2019 17: 23
    It is reported that in the Chernihiv region there are no more military prosecutors responsible for this kind of supervision
    , everything is like in our taiga "Law is the taiga, the bear is the owner, Cupid's grave" there is no prosecutor.
  6. +1
    18 October 2019 17: 31
    And today in Ukraine there is a paradoxical situation when there is simply no one to turn to for investigation in such incidents in the armed forces

    If before their Armed Forces looted and dispersed only on the road, now - in general, they will lose their shores when they don’t have an investigation ship. Excellent help, by the way, for genocide.
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      18 October 2019 18: 05
      Quote: V.I.F.
      Excellent help, by the way, for genocide.

      And / or for dictatorship
    2. 0
      19 October 2019 07: 17
      Quote: V.I.F.
      Excellent help, by the way, for genocide.

      Well, you also "swung" laughing . Is there a lot of honor for one piece wassat
      GENOCIDE (from the Greek genos - tribe, tribe and the Latin caedo - I kill), actions aimed at the destruction (in whole or in part) of entire population groups on racial, national, ethnic or religious grounds. Modern international law considers genocide as an international crime (UN Convention 1948).

      The modern encyclopedia. 2000.
  7. +1
    18 October 2019 19: 31
    The story \ with this soldier is really some kind of muddy. The soldier at the smoke rolled from the stairs, could not keep his balance and swung down. What bothers me in this story is that he was taken to the hospital with an open head injury. There are either 5 meters of ceilings, or it fell somehow strange, I do not exclude practically anything, but in order for the skull to burst, it is necessary to fall from at least 2 floors, and even head down.
  8. 0
    18 October 2019 19: 54
    The circus with the liquidation of the military prosecutor's office was conceived with gunpowder when Matios announced the number of non-combat losses on the "Russian front", but it did not work out. And now beauty! There is no military prosecutor's office, and cops are not allowed to the military. And everything is sewn-covered!
  9. 0
    18 October 2019 23: 06
    What, also "screwed in" a light bulb?