Eight Ka-52 Alligator drums will be handed over to the Ministry of Defense by the end of the year

By the end of this year, the Russian Ministry of Defense will receive 8 Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopters, the transfer of the entire batch is scheduled for December 2019. This was announced by the Managing Director of Arsenievskaya as part of the Unified Day of Military Acceptance aviation company (AAK) "Progress" Yuri Denisenko.

By the end of the year, the Arsenyev Aviation Company Progress will hand over eight Ka-52 attack helicopters to the Ministry of Defense, four of them have already been manufactured, passed all types of state tests and adopted by military representatives. Four more rotorcraft are at the assembly stage, they will be ready for transmission by the end of the year.

Four Ka-52 combat helicopters (...) as part of the state defense order. Helicopters have passed all types of tests provided for by technical specifications and the conditions of the state contract, accepted by the military mission and are ready for transfer to operating organizations

- Denisenko informed.

According to him, the Ka-52 Alligator attack helicopter is combat resistant to enemy weapons, and the helicopter’s electronic equipment and weapons "can reduce the helicopter’s contact time with the target and reduce its own losses."

Meanwhile, it is reported that as part of the Unified Day of Military Acceptance of the 33-th Separate Transport Mixed Aviation Regiment, deployed at the Levashovo airfield, a heavy Mi-26 helicopter arrived. As said the acting commander of the regiment Alexander Abanin, the resulting military transport helicopter will perform tasks in arctic conditions on the Novaya Zemlya archipelago. "

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[Sling cutter]

Little of course, but at least something ...

[Magic archer]

Little hen! The main thing to upgrade during the car is good, it will last a long time.

[Sling cutter]

Vladimir Of course it's good, everything Soviet is good!

[dauria]

everything Soviet is good!

I still have doubts about launching a series of two cars
one class, with no clear advantage of one over the other. Well, they would have thrown a coin Mi-28 or Ka, since they cannot choose. A harmful decision from the point of view of the country. As if it was not the strong-willed center that made the decision, but the pie was divided in a local way. For me, so to speak, Kamovites "Thank you, goodbye .. Good, but not too much to break everything for you."

[Alexey RA]

Quote: dauria

I still have doubts about launching a series of two cars
one class, without the obvious advantage of one over the other. Well, they would throw a Mi-28 or Ka coin, they just can’t choose. A harmful decision from the point of view of the country.

So at the time of the adoption of the first decision on the order, both cars were not operational. Throw a coin - and suddenly the loser will finish his car, and the winner will not.
The development situation was so unclear that they ordered not two, but three cars: to secure Ka-52 and Mi-28, our MO also ordered Mi-35. And, as it turned out, it did not fail - the main problems on new helicopters were solved only in the 2015 year (however, the problem of firing NAR from hovering on the 2016 was not solved).
And since they began to buy two new helicopters for the army, they continued this business further.

In addition, the factor of production capacities could play a role: as with the order of two types of Su-30, it is not a matter of choice, but in the capacities of plants. You will order from two firms - you will receive twice as much during the same period.

[dauria]

You will order from two firms - you will get twice as much during the same period

Arsenievsky factory did Mi-24. Itself there in 80 received new boards. They then drove 20 cars a month. After all, what happened? Not the capacity of the factories was increased, but simply the old factories were scattered on 2-type machines. Now what? With this combined hodgepodge of the two types of messing around? Here, someone lacks the will to bark - stop fooling, this is the country's defense, not business.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: dauria

Not the capacity of the plants was increased, but simply the old plants were scattered on 2 types of machines.

More precisely, two types of machines were scattered on profile plants. Arsenievtsy in the topic of coaxial drummers since 1986, when they were given documentation and an order for the Ka-50. The last Mi-24 left this plant in 1989.

Quote: dauria

Now what? With this combined hodgepodge of the two types of messing around?

Out of three. "Crocodiles" are still in service.
And still there’s no escape from the Ka-52 - the Navy will order them anyway.

[dauria]

And still there’s no escape from the Ka-52 - the Navy will order them anyway.

Look the truth in the eye - he has nothing to do in the Navy, whom he was going to "hit" there. And you can't ride the admiral with the chicks - there is no cab. Where, in which fleets, is there such a type of "strike" shipborne helicopter? You need to tie this baida, and the sooner the better.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: dauria

Yes, look the truth in the eye - he has nothing to do in the navy, whom he was going to "hit" there.

Goals ashore. Or are you not aware of the number of coastal forces of the fleet?

Quote: dauria

Where, in which fleets, is there such a type of "strike" shipborne helicopter?

The Marine Corps certainly has. Do not forget that our marines and coastal troops are part of the Navy, and not allocated to a separate structure.
The Marines have been dreaming of a strike helicopter for half a century. And palliatives like Ka-29 do not suit them.

[Grits]

Quote: dauria

Arsenievsky factory did Mi-24.

One acquaintance said that in the 80s they almost let out a helicopter a day. So that’s all right.
But before the Mi-24, they started with prototypes. Here is such a miracle I saw at the exhibition site on the territory of the Progress plant

And before that, the plant produced even more fun things. Such, for example.

And even the RCC. Here on the left - "Mosquito"

Well, this is Alligator. I was there in 2011. Already the assembly was in full swing.

[dauria]

I was there in 2011.

Is the Taiga Hotel still alive? Another attraction there was the Grotto Bar and the Semidyr wine and vodka shop. Eh, youth. Yes, even at that time the Yak-55 was being made there. And at the factory there are mostly women at the assembly. And the city was called "little Paris" .. Thanks for the pictures ...

[Grits]

Quote: dauria

Is the "Taiga" hotel still alive? Another attraction there was the Grotto Bar and the Semidyr wine and vodka shop.

The hotel with the cave still remains. And "Semidyr" rested in the Bose together with the anti-alcohol company because of its uselessness.
Well, about Yaki - this one stands there next to it.

[Voyager]

But nothing that pilots give more preference to the Ka-52?

[Vadivak]

Quote: Stroporez

everything Soviet is good!

And the rest is modernized

[Livonetc]

Shock eight is very handy.

[_Ugene_]

the orders of the Ministry of Defense for them have ended, there are no new ones, there are no export contracts either, workers are already dismissed from the factory, apparently that is why the association started to save production

[Alexey RA]

Quote: _Ugene_

the orders of the Ministry of Defense for them have ended, there are no new ones, there are no export contracts either, workers are already dismissed from the factory, apparently that is why the association started to save production

And where did the last MO contract go - which is calculated until the 2022 of the year?

As reported on May 28, 2019 by the TASS news agency, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation in 2020 plans to conclude a contract for the purchase of 114 modernized Ka-52M combat helicopters. This was announced by the Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Alexei Krivoruchko to reporters on Tuesday during his visit to the Progress aircraft plant in the Primorsky Territory.
"We expect to conclude a new contract for 114 modernized Kak-52M helicopters next year," said A. Krivoruchko.
(...)
Also, Alexey Krivoruchko, during his visit to AAK "Progress", said that "Now the plant is carrying out a long state contract for the supply of reconnaissance and attack helicopters Ka-52. Until the 2022 year, we expect to receive another 30 machines, including 8 helicopters, by the end of this year".

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By the way, the article is about these very promised 8 machines.

[_Ugene_]

information you have outdated, it was said in May that they plan to conclude this contract, but in fact it is still not there and they already say that it will not

So, the contract for the supply of 140 such machines for the Russian aerospace forces has already been practically completed, and a new agreement with the Ministry of Defense could not be signed. Initially, it was assumed that our military department would bet on two types of attack helicopters at once - Mi-28 and Ka-52. But it turned out that the operation and maintenance of the combined fleet is too expensive even for our military.
As a result, a new contract with the Russian Aerospace Forces for the supply of more than a hundred Ka-52s, in fact, hung in the air. The situation with sales on the foreign market is approximately the same. The only export contract for the supply of a total of 42 Ka-52 and Ka-52K helicopters (ship version) for Egypt is close to completion, and no new buyers for these models of rotorcraft were found. This situation has already led to massive reductions in Progress, which lasted all last year. So, according to the Federation of Independent Trade Unions, if in January 2018 a little more than 7 thousand people worked at the plant in Arsenyev, then in January 2019 - already about 6 thousand people. But this is still a lot for the plant, which produces less than 20 helicopters per year.
For example, Airbus Helicopters employs a total of 20 thousand people (half as much as in Russian Helicopters), but Europeans sell their 360 helicopters annually for 6 billion euros. This is one and a half times more than our entire helicopter holding - in physical terms and three times more than - in money.

[Vadim237]

Miles will most likely collapse the development of attack helicopters, will be engaged in high-speed transport, and Kamov will be engaged in sea and attack.

[_Ugene_]

as I understand it, they’re not going to buy the Ka-52 anymore, and the Mi-28 will continue to be purchased, so that only civilian Ka-62, Ka-226 remain with Kamov, but their prospects are foggy

[Vadim237]

Who said that they won’t buy Ka 52 anymore - the purchase of component parts for these helicopters continues in large volumes.

[_Ugene_]

7 thousand people worked at the plant, if some components are done, then 80% must be fired, a thousand have already been fired