We live in different worlds with our children.

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Have you ever paid attention to shop windows? More precisely, the advertising of goods in these windows? Even in purely “men's” stores, such as shops selling fishing and hunting equipment, a girl who seems to be wearing is holding a beautiful gun or fishing rod. And next to some beast. More precisely, the cub of the beast.





Even more interesting are shops for ladies or children. Puppies, kittens, rabbits and other bestial children offer to buy goods. And on the shelves are the same baby dolls. Nice, defenseless and at the same time so necessary at this particular moment. Well, how not to buy when he is so handsome and so touching looks into your eyes!

And at the same time: “In the city of N, a child was kidnapped from a local businessman. The kidnappers demand ... "Or something similar in the same vein. A child as a means of blackmail, as an opportunity to force a person to do something illegal. Baby like weapon!

Do you remember the most terrible shots in the programs about the war, after which you want to drop everything and go kill these monsters? Shots with killed children! Remember Syria and the children supposedly gassed? Remember the naked Vietnamese baby who was leaving the war somewhere? .. Do you remember the village blacksmith Joseph Kaminsky with the murdered son in his arms from the Belarusian Khatyn? ..

Does Russia use children to destabilize the EU?


But today I will not write about the suffering of children. Today I will write about how children are used for blackmail. Not the primitive, which was mentioned above on the example of a businessman from the city of N, but global, at the level of states and even continents. In particular, about the famous (here without options, judging by the number of subscribers to her web page) Grete Thunberg.

Whoever wrote about this girl. Yes, and that just did not write too. For every taste and color. From the great and terrible to the vile and insignificant. From brilliant to insane. Maybe for this reason we were not in a hurry to write on this topic.

In general, to be honest with myself, the girl is simply sorry. To become in 16 years a world star, the idol of hundreds of thousands of young people, and then it’s hard to turn into a young woman. And for some it’s just unbearable.

Member of the European Parliament Jörg Moyten “kicked” me in writing this article. I expected something like that, but still marveled ... the clarity of mind of this deputy. Let me quote a few fragments of his statement to the European Commission:
“These campaigns (like Friday for the Future, Greenpeace, civilian rescue boats in the Mediterranean) are professionally organized and have significant financial support.”
“Currently, such campaigns have a strong influence on politics, which impedes the achievement of goals such as ensuring welfare, employment, reliable energy supplies and ultimately contributes to Europe’s loss of global competitiveness and its impoverishment.”


You still do not understand what Russia has to do with it? Yes, despite the fact that only Russia can wage a hybrid war! All other European countries are white and fluffy. And they cannot finance all these European environmental actions! Only Russians can use a sick Swedish girl for their own purposes!

“Without the conclusions of such an investigation at its disposal, can the commission rule out the possibility that these campaigns are financed and supervised by Russia?”


You know, after reporting on Moyten’s speech, for some reason, an association came up with a pathologist who, after a corporate party, accidentally woke up in another department of the hospital and saw that the patients were walking ... The reaction is very similar. The problem of “some other young people” is more interesting. Not "who raised them," but "why they do not understand and do not respect us."

Why do most people think that Greta Tunberg is just a puppet in the hands of adult puppeteers


It’s disgusting, very disgusting to use children in adult games. I understood this back in Soviet times. Some readers still remember Samantha Smith, an American girl from Maine. A beautiful American 10-year-old girl who represented the USA in our USSR. Which told us about the world, about friendship, about love between nations. Meanwhile, our soldiers were dying from American weapons in Afghanistan. 1983 year ...

You know, it was like a crowd of women, old people and children who were going to our positions, and Mujahideen were hiding behind them. Life for life. Only you are a fighter, and they are just people ... A little girl who sincerely wants to stop adult idiots. Sincerely!

A child, especially with problems associated with the psyche, is quite easily programmed in the right direction. Even the most delusional ideas with competent work with such a child will soon be perceived by him as his own thoughts. As the main thing, for what it is worth living.

That grimace of hatred that we saw on Greta's face when speaking at the UN is not a mask. This is a sincere hatred of us adults. To us, which allow problems to arise, which, according to the young human rights activist, lead to the destruction of the Earth.

There are many versions of those who use the popularity of girls in their own interests. We generally like to hang labels. This is more comfortable. Moreover, evidence of the involvement of those whom we blame is not required. "I think so! This is my opinion based on my worldview, that's all. Do not like it - sue. But I have the right to my own opinion! ”

But if this is allowed for one girl, then, in principle, it is possible. But how to explain that her followers live in most countries of the world? How to explain that in any country there is an old Testament problem of fathers and children? The disagreements between youth and the adult world do not depend on the standard of living, on religion, on the continent, on social status and other things. Why?

Disbelief in adults as a way of protection from the outside world


Have you ever wondered why the youth do not believe us? Why is it so easily conducted on all sorts of bulk and other "fighters for truth"? Why did the sick girl from Sweden, again, become the sovereign of the minds of thousands of young people from all over the world? Why are her words, the words of a person who does not represent the very problem of ecology, hurt the soul of many? Why is one word on the Internet of this very Greta capable of taking thousands to the streets?

I’m sure that Greta is a product of someone’s dirty game. Everything is too well organized for young people. The hand of the master is felt. So what? They believe her, but we don’t! And they believe Navalny. Even when someone gives incontrovertible evidence of his baseness. So what's up? Young people flew from another planet? Are these not our children?

The answer, it seems to me, is in the very system of organization of society. In almost every country in the world, no one hears young people. The hegemony for truth in our country belongs to the “elders”. Those who have reached a certain level, who have lived for some years, who have become someone. Has anyone asked the opinion of a simple boy or girl? Not those who got into some kind of program and are preparing to become the "elite" of society, but those from the street ...

They have no right to criticize us! We are smarter simply because we have decided so. And your business is to listen and absorb our wisdom. Listen and be silent. And they do not want to be silent. They want to be heard. And we say we hear them. Do you just hear?

Back to Greta. Do we, who have lived many times more than she, really know more about ecology? I'm not talking about specialists. I am about us. We know about most problems from the press, from acquaintances, from books. And that's why we know more? If I know that in most cases, analgin helps with a headache, am I smarter? I became almost a doctor?

Yes, outwardly Greta makes an unpleasant impression. Evil face, angry voice, evil words. But she is one of the few who was able to break the wall of adult deafness. And hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of young people could not do it. It is they who stand behind Greta. Those who have something to say, but scary and unusual to interrupt the "smart" adults. It is they who repeat her words.

Have you noticed that the young are scared? Behind this pose of recklessness and indifference is hidden fear. A simple human fear of society, of its own future. This explains the desire to break everything. Break the incomprehensible to build the intelligible. Only now they have not yet learned how to build.

Those who started buzzing on the Maidan in Kiev in 2014 also wanted to break the terrible and incomprehensible, and then create a world of universal happiness. And they could. But only to break, and adults began to build again. Today, judging by how events are developing, fear has returned. Breaking is customary. So, it is necessary to break it down exactly until the moment when someone appears who will teach you how to build.

Have you ever found yourself thinking that you did not know your children at all? Even in the little things. They do not know how to contact each other in real life. At the same time, they are the most frustrated and sociable people who have dozens or even hundreds of “friends” on the network. However, the need or desire to meet a peer or peer on the street drives them into a stupor. How? He may not want to ...

Young people flee from real life to the virtual world. Youth lives outside of us. There, in the world of computer heroes, in the world of computer love, in the world of computer death, if you want. Therefore, access to the real world for them often ends in tragedy. The last trip on the roof of the train, the last selfie on the roof of a skyscraper. Last, last, last ...

Is there a way out?


We are trying to explain everything by someone’s influence, by some external forces. At the same time, we don’t even ask ourselves a priori that we are the ones who have the greatest influence on children. Parents, school. They communicate with us most of all. Spend the most time. We need to learn to listen and teach them not to be afraid of life.

But this is not enough! Unbeknownst to ourselves, we began to live separately from our own children. We solve our problems, even the smallest, they also solve themselves. But it’s enough to remember yourself at their age. Dad’s “Moskvich” with an open hood and your terrible desire to “hold the nut” while your father unscrews the bolt.

Or fishing with my father on a morning dawn. And small, with a palm crucian carp, which for some reason my father pecks, but you do not. Remember how you got to your father’s catchy place? Little by little, imperceptibly. They were selected, so much so that soon your float stuck out in centimeters from your father’s ...

But these are not just childhood memories. This is a memory of how we became like our parents. How did they become docks in the work that popes did. These are memories of a blood relationship with dad and mom. Communication is not according to documents, communication is to your liking.

Many today can say that children are as drawn to them as he once reached for his father? Alas, most often excuses like "invited, but he is somehow not like that, his computer is more expensive." And our child is simply afraid to seem ridiculous stupidity. Afraid to study with us. And leaves. Leaves on the street. Goes to social networks, where he is equal among equals, goes to radical organizations, where he is strong.

The answer to the question posed above seems to be simple. Long live the family! Give a normal cell to society! But can we "give"? Can we overcome our own “oh well, with his help, which then redo”? I'm not sure. But my father, unraveling the fishing line of our fishing rods once again, was sure.
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  1. +17
    21 October 2019 05: 17
    The problem of fathers and children is as eternal as the world. And with the development of the global Internet and social networks, this problem has become even wider. We just don’t keep up with our children, and often we just give them to the virtual world so that we do not interfere with our problems.
    We buy them tablets, smartphones and so on ...
    After all, in our childhood, this did not happen, and therefore the children were with their parents and a gang in the yard ... Rivers, rabylki, scooters, the sun and so on.
    Now all this has replaced the Internet.
    1. -2
      21 October 2019 06: 19
      And the children are smarter than this, we were
      1. +11
        21 October 2019 07: 25
        I would not say so categorically .. in some things, taking into account modern technologies, yes, but in some ways, excuse me ... especially with regard to how they say "do it yourself"
        1. +1
          21 October 2019 07: 49
          Have you ever found yourself thinking that you did not know your children at all? Even in the little things.

          Yes, you communicate more with your children. wink
          If you have problems in the family, this does not mean that the rest have it.
          Of course, if you thought about your children with gray hair, then understanding children is already difficult and too late.
          I hope you have children, mister author.

          Thank God, most people with a head on their shoulders in our country. And families where most children are welcome. Families where parents and children live together. I am not talking about registration, but about life per se.

          Quote: Lunic
          We just do not keep up with our children

          Where are you going to catch up with them? request

          Quote: Lunic
          In our childhood, this wasn’t

          Yeah, you were born with a beard right away. laughing

          Do not smack nonsense.

          I am amazed. Do you have any children? Or did you suddenly remember them?

          You still have a song about the fact that work takes away all the time and you have no time to start children.
          1. +2
            21 October 2019 07: 59
            Quote: Andrey VOV
            I would not say so categorically .. in some things, taking into account modern technologies, yes, but in some ways, excuse me ... especially with regard to how they say "do it yourself"

            Have you shown an example? Did you teach your son or daughter to do something with their hands?
            Or are you expecting to be taught at school? laughing

            I do not understand your delight that your child cannot do anything with his own hands. request

            If you are an official and taught your child to ride on someone else's hump, then of course he would take a tool in his hands. But then, what sadness is it? wink laughing
            1. +3
              21 October 2019 11: 33
              You didn’t understand my idea, the reason is that modern children, for example, in all kinds of gadgets and other things, probably understand more than ours, but to do something with your hands, not like us, but I taught a lot myself, and now he’s a healthy forehead, after the army
              1. +2
                21 October 2019 13: 40
                So it is did not understand you.
                Indeed, children understand more about gadgets, that's just the sense of this "understanding" zero.
                For them it’s a toy.
                As in our childhood there were toys in which we understood more than parents.
                For adults, the gadget is interesting for specific purposes, and we discard everything else as unnecessary to us.
                Children's knowledge allows teens to master the gadget as they say to the ground.

                Then you have to cancel all sorts of stupid subscriptions. laughing Here you need to look at both.

                The human essence is unchangeable. And three hundred years ago there was the same picture. Only "gadgets" were different - wooden toys, knives and other joy.
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        2. +1
          21 October 2019 09: 47
          Our children now live in a different reality, they don’t need to be able to stand me on a car, they need to be able to make money
          1. +6
            21 October 2019 11: 37
            When my bastard turned 13 years old, I forgot how to change the oil in the car and the filter. At 14 years old, he was already sorting out the engine. Sometimes I had to help only with advice. I know that he understands cars better than me. Now he is 35, he is a leading specialist in one company, his portrait is hanging on a billboard in the city. He has two higher ones. But for me he’s a stupid kid.
        3. +2
          21 October 2019 23: 22
          Quote: Andrey VOV
          Regarding how to say "do it yourself"

          Depends on your approach. But I will offer a joke, sad:
          I used to be wary of doctors, but when the surgeon said :. Google ok; - I got worried ...
          1. +3
            22 October 2019 16: 41
            To whom the joke did not like, suggest your
      2. +4
        21 October 2019 08: 37
        And the children are smarter than this, we were

        Rather well-read and with a different mentality ... a different educational environment.
        I was brought up in the Soviet education system ... where the goals of upbringing were completely different from modern ones and I look at modern children and I clearly understand our era is a thing of the past ... can our children learn from our mistakes ... will they repeat them again.
        In any case, we cannot reject our past ... neither the Soviet ... nor the pre-Soviet ... nor the time of the reign of the Romanov dynasty ... all this was and we just need to be able to draw conclusions for the development of our society along an ascending line and not step on the old rake devastation in people's minds again.
        As for Greta Tunberg ... of course, it could well be a tool even in the hands of the adventurer Soros seeking to ruin the existing order of things ... after all, you can gilt your hands on it very well and Greta is actively used in this regard.
        1. 0
          24 October 2019 14: 18
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          I look at modern children and clearly understand our era is a thing of the past ... can our children learn from our mistakes ... will they repeat them again.

          each generation at some point looks back and thinks these thoughts. from Socrates to our brother.
      3. 0
        21 October 2019 10: 24
        You, smart guy, confuse intelligence with the availability of information. "Ok Google, what is the capital of Moscow" - these are the majority of "children now". They don't want to think with their own heads, they carry nonsense from the Internet.
    2. +11
      21 October 2019 06: 30
      All of this is certainly true. But there is a question. Why do we buy tablets and smartphones for them? Well, to take a child! So it turns out that already from kindergarten the child has his own life. Most parents have no time to deal with children. It is necessary to chop the loot. And this is not the fault of the parents. It’s just that they are delivered by the system in such conditions. But capitalism was yesterday. But it seems to me that parents did not spend so much time outside the family before. Today you can be on watch for two weeks and half a year. And this is only so in Russia !? Do they work less there? For some reason there is a surge in fashion for piercings and tattoos. No one thought why? Previously, we were tattooed by the prisoners of the zones. Restriction of freedom and such self-expression. In my opinion, this fashion for tattooing and piercing from a feeling of lack of freedom and an attempt to express oneself. I want to express myself, but in essence there is nothing to express. So different patterns or a bunch of pictures go through the body. With piercings is similar. Essentially useless and scary, but you get attention. Probably the same with Greenpeace. I want to express myself, to become useful. Here you have been given the opportunity. You took off in the rays of glory! You are noticed, you are useful to society! Nobody thinks about the background of this good deed. Look at Prirazlomnaya climbed to protect the environment? Riding on the Maidan for a brighter future? Since the time of perestroika, we are used to scolding children's organizations. Say this is violence against a child. But I think everyone sees the difference in working with children then and now. The goals are declared high, but in reality they are pursued by selfish ones.
      Briefly said does not work. But I think the meaning is clear. There is no time for parents to communicate with children today, they must work! So the ideas of globalism are moving us towards the separation of functions for people. Some work, surrogate mothers give birth in a conveyor way, selection is carried out and specially trained people are engaged in upbringing. And the population is concerned with its problems. After all, the most important thing is personal success!
      1. -4
        21 October 2019 08: 08
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Most parents have no time to deal with children.

        Here is another one of my problems on the rest.

        Or everything is fine with you, but you EXACTLY KNOW that the rest of the people of Russia do just that:
        no time to deal with children.
        laughing

        All my friends are glad to see their children. And there are no problems with time for children.
        And the amount of money in families does not affect the love of children.
        The income for all of us is different, but this does not mean at all that those who earn less money have more stupid children.
        And children love their parents.

        Each child has his own success in life.
        And these successes are not related at all to the income of the parents.

        But there is not one who has forgotten their parents and there are no parents who do not know how their children live.

        So it is with all my friends and acquaintances.

        Enough to measure everything with money. Wake up and look around.

        Thank God we live in a country where love is above the dough.
        I am talking about love for children. Love of children to parents.
        I think it’s clear, but whoever doesn’t understand, let him go to the supermarket and buy it. laughing
      2. +7
        21 October 2019 10: 10
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        Why do we buy tablets and smartphones for them? Well, to take a child! So it turns out that already from kindergarten the child has his own life. Most parents have no time to deal with children.

        Answer: if our parents could buy then, 50 years ago, tablets for their children, would they not buy them?
        The answer, I think, is obvious. And the affairs of adults, there have always been then and are today, are up to the neck.
        For us, the 1950-1960s. the main thing was to break out into the street by any means. There was life, friends, it was INTERESTING.
        Now it’s interesting, in the virtual ...
        Quote: SOVIET UNION 2
        It’s just that they are delivered by the system in such conditions.

        I remember a six-day work week with ONE day off. How much joy there was that a weekend Saturday appeared!
        Because parents did not see much during the work: after work, for part-time jobs, in the garden, in the queue, to parents ....
    3. +10
      21 October 2019 06: 42
      The problem is really eternal. Another 25-30 years will pass and the current youth will not understand their children. How can I lie in a virtual capsule for days? Here we at one time, we went to school ourselves, with our feet. The dust themselves were removed from computers, the mouse was moved with the hands, etc. We noticed that all the comments are again from adults, in our time, the street, fishing, a bicycle. Again we hang up our template, our experience. There would be Internet in our time, we would also be dissolved there. Remember when video shows appeared where we all disappeared? Went further to hobbyists and aircraft modeling circles? No, they abandoned everything! And now, a person does not keep pace with the development of technology, and children quickly master. Then they will grow up and their children will go ahead of them. This is not a problem, it is a given.
      1. +2
        21 October 2019 07: 12
        Alas you can not argue with that
        1. +17
          21 October 2019 07: 26
          Remember at Lermontov's? There were people in our time, not like the current tribe. Bogatyrs! Not you ... Years passed and the "worthless" descendants showed unprecedented heroism under Osovets in the attack of the dead. And their "worthless" descendants kept Brest, won in the polar frosts near Moscow, then at the genetic level they hammered the word Stalingrad into the memory of mankind. Yes, even today, the Pepsi generation did not leave Hill 776 near Ulus-Kert, having accepted an unequal battle. And then the "wrong heroes" will be like that. It just seems to us that in our time the water was wetter and the women were more agreeable. And we were young and nothing hurt.
          1. +5
            21 October 2019 08: 03
            You are right: it seems to us that in our time everything was better, and our children do not live correctly. I understand it with my mind, but the mind and heart perceive reality differently
        2. +4
          21 October 2019 09: 07
          And this is the law of technological innovation, which has long been interpreted as "the world belongs to the young." For they most easily assimilate new techniques and social ideas, which just as easily change the minds of young people, making them different from their elders.
          In ancient Rome there were automatic mowing machines and such construction equipment, some of which survived until the 19th century and only then were improved. And everything was ready for the assembly of an internal combustion engine - in ancient Rome!
          Why did the bad emperor (sorry, I do not remember who) did not give the invention a move? And so that the world does not belong to the young, but to him, beloved ...
          Therefore, practice has developed over time - the war is fanned by the elders, and teenagers are at war. And therefore, the white billion as the most advanced part of the population has a falling birth rate. For the world should not belong to the young!
          Therefore - kill the young!
          Kill the young one, for he is your competitor and he has more chances to defeat you!
          To do this, destroy worthy training, because your worthy competitor is its product.
          To do this, unleash a war - let the young conquer territory for you, international authority and at the same time die under bullets.
          To do this, plant drugs - let the young ones, stuffing your bag with money, die from an overdose.
          To do this, banish the environment - do not care! Let the young as the most vulnerable die! And for you there is a place in the paradise of the islands of the Atlantic or the Pacific Ocean ...
          In the coordinate system of continuous scientific and technological progress, not only does the law of denial by children of their fathers work, but also the opposite. We, the older generation, believe that our efforts can improve the world.
          It is not true. By ceasing to be young, by and large we can only worsen it. Or to predict how it can get worse, because we know what we are capable of. After all, it is we who, with good intentions, are paving the way to hell.
          1. +5
            21 October 2019 09: 56
            Quote: depressant
            Therefore, practice has developed over time - the war is fanned by the elders, and teenagers are at war. And therefore, the white billion as the most advanced part of the population has a falling birth rate. For the world should not belong to the young!
            Therefore - kill the young!

            Not certainly in that way.
            The primates are fighting with children. (Adolescents) in front are always young, old people and leaders in the center (very children and women too), behind the weak subdominants.
            Man is only a biological species and is completely subordinate to that order. And man has the same thing. At 18, they trust you with a machine gun and you can kill. (You can’t drink smoking until an older age and you can’t copulate according to the law, although it’s time for a long time ago).
            In adolescents, imprinting is stronger. They are easier to stuff with patriotism and slogans. They came to a world where all niches are occupied and you need to fight for everything (females and food).
            Therefore, the slogan "women are still giving birth" is quite human. Young growth dies, in return a new one.
            And the decline in the birth rate in the West is not due to wars, but because of the growth of women's employment in the economy and their education and rights. They are equal in rights to men (and even more) and men do not give birth.
          2. +2
            21 October 2019 10: 22
            Colleague Depressant, it has long been known that: "The road is paved with good intentions to hell", what follows from this? Progress cannot be stopped and that means we need to measure ourselves that young people do not understand us
          3. +3
            21 October 2019 11: 07
            And everything was ready for the assembly of an internal combustion engine - in ancient Rome!
            Violently plus! I haven’t neigh for a long time! Sir, you made my day hi
      2. +1
        21 October 2019 10: 20
        Quote: Bacha
        current youth will not understand their children. How can I lie in a virtual capsule for days? We noticed that all the comments are again from adults, in our time,faces, fishing, bike

        The problem is that with this course of things, SOMEONE will simply lie in this very capsule.
        In order for these children to appear, you must, nevertheless, go outside, on a bicycle and fishing .....
        1. -1
          28 October 2019 00: 41
          I’ll tell you more that all these nyashki are developed by those who do not stick out in the virtual world, but are engaged in real affairs and real life.
      3. 0
        21 October 2019 13: 30
        Quote: Bacha
        Went further to hobbyists and aircraft modeling circles?

        Do you have these circles now? Yes, and now it’s expensive to bring a child to mugs.
      4. +2
        21 October 2019 14: 50
        I absolutely agree with you. The world is now not the same as it was 20-30 years ago. Technology is updated every 10 years. And after 20 years, today's children will say the same thing about their children.
    4. +5
      21 October 2019 08: 07
      The author's companion poured out, so to speak, the soul. And the conclusions? Long live the family! Give a normal cell to society! And who argues.
    5. +3
      21 October 2019 08: 28
      All these Samantha Smiths and Greta Thunbergs live in rich and prosperous countries. Our children are not up to these "world mysteries" and environmental problems. We do not have a question of what to eat and what to wear fur or synthetics. For what we have enough money we consume. In our country, these are not actual problems.
      1. +1
        21 October 2019 10: 32
        Quote: Civil
        All these Samantha Smiths and Greta Tunbergs live in rich and prosperous countries.

        there was our answer to Samantham Smith - KATYA LYCHEVA. In mid-1980, traveled to the United States (at their invitation) and met with US President Reagan.
  2. +2
    21 October 2019 06: 08
    In villages / villages easier. There the infection slowly penetrates.
    1. +3
      21 October 2019 07: 24
      This was already 25-30 years ago, and now it is not so. The other day I went with a friend to her relatives. A deaf village, but there are smartphones there, maybe not as cool as in the city, but there are
    2. +1
      21 October 2019 08: 09
      Quote: arhitroll
      In villages / villages simpler

      Have you been in the village for a long time? I think never.
    3. 0
      24 October 2019 14: 22
      Quote: arhitroll
      In villages / villages easier. There the infection slowly penetrates.

      once in the books, some are also fluid devilish machinations. nothing carried
  3. +7
    21 October 2019 06: 09
    "..You took my childhood away from me .." Children who create a tribune for themselves with the help of their parents, take their childhood away from themselves. Basically, everything is driven by emotions. Young people do not even know what harm these newly-made "ecologists" have done to our country. And adults for some reason are silent. Someone else's information must be correctly put in their information. How many fought with other people's voices? We must move away from propaganda clichés, we have already become obsessed with them.
    1. 0
      21 October 2019 07: 09
      Read King Matiusz Korczak ... Everything is the same there ...
  4. +3
    21 October 2019 06: 46
    Jörg Moyten
    This weirdo who tried to throw in the Russian trail has already worked back saying that it was irony about the "Russia is to blame" trend. At first he said, then he thought and realized that he had blasted the sheer nonsense and did not even apologize. Regarding Greta Thunberg, she is not the first and, unfortunately, not the last person to be used by adult uncles and aunts from politics. What a world, such are the rules.
    1. +2
      21 October 2019 08: 18
      Freedom to Angela Davis!
  5. +1
    21 October 2019 06: 58
    What is Yaroslavna's crying? Our family does not have any special problems with the child. Maybe you just need to engage in education and not look for "other people's worlds"? feel
    1. +2
      21 October 2019 08: 07
      Well what are you! In their failures, whatever they may be, it is much easier to blame not for their own laziness and limitation, but for some endless circumstances of force majeure.
      1. 0
        21 October 2019 11: 38
        Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Well what are you! In their failures, whatever they may be, it is much easier to blame not for their own laziness and limitation, but for some endless circumstances of force majeure.

        Here you are absolutely right.
  6. 0
    21 October 2019 07: 07
    Wonderful article, Alexander!
  7. +1
    21 October 2019 07: 08
    Quote: Tank Hard
    What is Yaroslavna's crying? Our family does not have any special problems with the child. Maybe you just need to engage in education and not look for "other people's worlds"?

    It seems so to you. And then ... you don’t have it, the others have it and in their quantity your problemlessness will drown.
    1. +1
      21 October 2019 07: 50
      Quote: kalibr
      It seems so to you. And then ... you don’t have it, the others have it and in their quantity your problem will drown

      Do not wait! tongue
  8. +3
    21 October 2019 07: 14
    Have you noticed that the young are scared? Behind this pose of recklessness and indifference is hidden fear. A simple human fear of society, of its own future. This explains the desire to break everything. Break the incomprehensible to build the intelligible. Only now they have not yet learned how to build.

    Conducted a survey of students. Fear dominates! In the first place to stay alone. On the second, get sick with an incurable disease. On the third, to remain without a high salary. Only one wrote - I'm afraid of God!
    1. +5
      21 October 2019 07: 40
      Churchill said:
      “He who in his youth was not a radical - he does not have a heart, he who in maturity did not become a conservative - he has no mind”
      It is not even a matter of fear - youth is characterized by uncompromisingness, categoricalness. From a lack of life experience.
  9. +3
    21 October 2019 07: 41
    Children at the level of innate instincts copy the behavior of adults. Therefore, my personal IMHO: what you give to children, they will copy. You won't give them anything - they will go looking for an "idol" on the street, on the Internet, in a sect, etc.
    Blaming the street, social networks, virtual and others that they made our children like that is hypocrisy. Then I agree with the author, if you want to extend your Rod - study with those whom you gave birth to.
  10. +3
    21 October 2019 07: 52
    The author is right: "we live in different worlds with our children." For example, my son: while he was little he looked at the world with my eyes, but he got older and looks at the world differently. When I started talking to him about politics, and he told me: "mother, you don't understand anything: now the reality is different" I don't talk about politics with him anymore
    1. +4
      21 October 2019 08: 22
      Quote: Astra wild
      When I started talking to him about politics, and he told me: "mother, you don't understand anything: now the reality is different" I don't talk about politics with him anymore

      So it was necessary to find out what exactly you do not understand, and what "other reality" is.

      And to listen with the aim of understanding, and not in a pose - well, give an egg to teach a chicken. We all suffer from the fact that few are willing to listen to us, but after listening to understand. In adolescence, this suffering is even more desperate. Here above kalibr (Vyacheslav) conducted a survey among students - of all the possible fears, in the first place loneliness. And the kinship of souls begins with just this - to listen and understand.
      1. +1
        21 October 2019 09: 04
        "so it was necessary to find out", can you boast that your children share your political ideals?
        I know good and hardworking girls, but in spite of their parents they voted for Ksenia Sobchak. And the author says about this, that although you are cracking proving that Navalny is byak, they are prettier to them. Then of course they will understand, but now ....
        1. +2
          21 October 2019 09: 47
          Quote: Astra wild
          Can you boast that your children share your political ideals?

          Should they?

          They are not clones, to be an exact copy. And then, to understand and share views is not the same thing. And yet, even if the child is mistaken, but it is not fatal, then you are near to gradually adjust the brains unobtrusively.

          Quote: Astra wild
          I know good and hardworking girls, but in spite of their parents they voted for Ksenia Sobchak.

          If the offspring does something to spite the parent, then the parent is to blame.

          Spite is revenge, isn't it? For what? So there is a reason. Perhaps for an adult there is an insignificant trifle, which he may not even remember. And important for the child. Or was important then.

          Quote: Astra wild
          And the author says about this, that although you are cracking proving that Navalny is byak, they are prettier to them.

          And why prove that Navalny Byak?

          Well, prove and what will you achieve? You know that to prove to a person that he is wrong is to quarrel with him. So what is the ultimate goal to pursue - to quarrel or make friends? To whom then will the child begin to listen - to the opinion of a friend or foe?
          1. +1
            21 October 2019 11: 12
            We were all born and formed under socialism, and it seems to us that everyone should share our ideals, and the young react differently.
        2. 0
          21 October 2019 11: 30
          Quote: Astra wild
          "so it was necessary to find out", can you boast that your children share your political ideals?
          I know good and hardworking girls, but in spite of their parents they voted for Ksenia Sobchak. And the author says about this, that although you are cracking proving that Navalny is byak, they are prettier to them. Then of course they will understand, but now ....

          Well, then, I personally was lucky. My son and I (only about 20 years old) are united on this issue and vote for the left. As well as consistent opponents of EP and Mr. P.
          And we talk about Navalny, Sobchak, Kadyrov and other politicians, share our opinions, and discuss. But we don’t get down to cliches (liberalist, etc.), but try to argue our point of view.
          Everything is very simple - if right, prove it with logic, with examples. Learn to think.

          And about the same Navalny (I’m unlikely to vote for him myself), but I think that if my parents started a dispute with
          I know good and hardworking girls
          , then these girls would have smashed their opponents-parents to smithereens. Because following the example of some of my elderly relatives, I know that all the "arguments" boil down exactly to - liberal (a very popular argument on the VO website, among individual citizens) and he only thinks how to sell everything to the West and this is a US project (as if then the current government does not do the same and itself does not strive for the West lol ).
          That's it, a set of stamps and a black and white simplification that corresponds to the real picture of life, from the word - no matter how.
          So, hardly the kids voted
          in spite of parents
          You talk with such, in normal language, with arguments. So it is not yet known who is campaigning with whom in the end.

          I have a friend. No matter how hard I fought, agitating him against Mr. P., he was his loyal supporter at all elections. And then he bought a smartphone, began to read and watch more on the Internet, and vice versa, watch the fed less. channels and lo and behold. He himself recently told me: That's it, now I am like you and like my daughter (he has a student daughter), I no longer vote for Putin. My opinion has changed 180 degrees.
          I told him: Seryozha, what happened?
          And he answered: Yes, nothing special. He simply says that he’ve seen enough, thought about how it all relates to real life and what the state stuffs. propaganda and realized-LIE is powerless. And before that he says, I argued with my daughter, and after all, she was basically right.

          PS Young people do not like it when they lie to it (and many older ones, in reality, also do not like it). Young people are very keenly feeling not justice. And Bulk or Sobchak, nothing to do with it.
          You need to lie less, well, at least try. And this applies both to the authorities and to us individually. hi
          1. +1
            21 October 2019 18: 43
            Leshy, in general, I agree with you. I’m trying so hard with my son. I stopped praising socialism for him. Sometimes, as if in passing, I recall my childhood, and he is a smart person (the future officer is a tankman) he will be able to compare.
            I, unlike your friend, have been "friends" with a tablet for a relatively long time, but I watch federal channels. I try to match the Internet and TV messages.
            On the Internet you can find "rain", and there they will try to turn the collar into an eversion. So, it's better to watch both in moderation
  11. 0
    21 October 2019 08: 11
    They have no right to criticize us! We are smarter simply because we have decided so.

    No, not therefore, but because there is a life experience that the young do not have. There is the ability to build causal relationships.
    A simple human fear of society, of its own future. This explains the desire to break everything.

    No, not only that. Still seething hormones and see above - the lack of life experience. And yes, from the desire to make the complex simple - this is due to the lack of not only life experience, but also knowledge.
    It was these very maximalism, implicated in youthful narrow-mindedness, that the scoundrels learned to use: from children's crusades, Maozededun’s hunveibins and Polpot’s executioners to scumbags in Kiev and our fed-up protesters.
    IMHO, in our time the age of these "children" may well reach forty years. This is in the "bad" Soviet times: 17 years - go, study, 18 years - if you can't study - go to the Army. That's all, childhood is over. At 22, you have a profession, you are an adult and independent - be of benefit to the country. Bearded babies with the mentality of a kindergartner somehow did not take root. Now you can ...
  12. -1
    21 October 2019 09: 07
    It seems that the author has accepted something. Greta, Bulk, hybrid war, Maidan, incredibly simple.

    1. The relationship of 40-year-olds with their children on average much better than with your parents.
    2. Radical environmentalism, which was promoted, first of all, by the professional insignificance of A. Gore, is an order of magnitude more harmless than Nowadays. In Nowadays half of my friends wore pigs. One - in the bag a piece of cardan from the Cossack. With gear. Very brutal thing, I can say.
    1. +1
      21 October 2019 10: 04
      Quote: tesser
      It seems that the author has accepted something. Greta, Bulk, hybrid war, Maidan, incredibly simple.

      why did you accept? It is quite professionally fomented the attitude using the words tags (which cause a negative - for example Maidan). An old hammered trick. If you want to form a relationship, add a comparison with images that cause fierce rejection. And this is already on an emotional level and the mind stops analyzing. And emotions do the rest. Voila - the emotional state to the object of the article is formed.
      I don’t understand why in the Russian Federation they attacked her so much?
      And the Mountain, which, based on cores, suddenly decided to become the messiah and forgot about volcanoes and paleoclimatology - for some reason no one remembers. And the Kyoto Protocol and all these attempts and the DuPont concern with their ozone holes, too.
      And they decided to crush the child in full. Maidan was attributed to her.
      If states do not deal with children, then they do it by themselves. And it is surprising that she was interested in the climate. And not rock, drugs and guys ..
      And I always add in the history of mankind it was the fanatics (blindly believing and abnormal) who led the masses and sometimes decided fate. They will not listen to the wise old man - but they will go after the ideologically believing fool.
      This is a crowd .. It has different laws.
      1. 0
        21 October 2019 10: 33
        Quote: Antares
        If states do not deal with children

        Here lovers, at one time, was engaged in the Soviet state. Grew everyone a joy.
        Quote: Antares
        decided to crush the child in full. Maidan attributed to her

        It is unlikely that Greta reads in Russian.
        Quote: Antares
        I don’t understand why in the Russian Federation they attacked her so much?

        Whatever, but Greta’s theme reminds me very much of Pavlik Morozov. So yes, it irritates both she and this whole party of holy people around her. Pure party farm asset.

        More important for Greta is not the fact that she is being "hunted" with an ax, but that the conventional Alberta Gory began to turn away from her. There was so much noise from her that young scoundrels, like A. Ocasio-Cortez, are trying under this flag to push old scoundrels like the aforementioned Gore or E. Warren, reproaching them for insufficient decisiveness (next to an insane youngster, anyone will not look decisive enough). So for Greta, it could all end like Asange, the old members of the (Democratic) party didn't eat that much.
        1. +1
          21 October 2019 10: 37
          Quote: tesser
          A. Okasio-Cortes, trying to shove the old bastards under this flag, like the mentioned Horus or E. Warren, reproaching them for lack of decisiveness (next to the insane youngster, anyone will not look decisively)

          wow .. Thought more than Gore to screw up in this matter is difficult
          1. 0
            21 October 2019 10: 43
            Okasio-Cortes v. Horus is like deputy Fedorov against some Gryzlov, if you know who all these people are.
  13. 0
    21 October 2019 09: 18
    Good article. Especially the ending.
    But Greta is not Danko, but Petrushka, on the hand of a skillful puppeteer who plays some kind of game of his own and at the end simply throws out a glove that is no longer needed by the doll.
  14. 0
    21 October 2019 09: 25
    Whoever wrote about this girl. Yes, and that just did not write too. For every taste and color. From the great and terrible to the vile and insignificant. From brilliant to insane.

    She has a diagnosis.
    So you can write anything - it will not change anything.
    Not that scares. you never know such a diagnosis. frightens that "thousands of people" quickly and easily go crazy listening to her nonsense. On the one hand, this demonstrates the work of brainwashing technologies, on the other hand, the extremely low intellectual level of modern people in the bulk.
    1. +2
      21 October 2019 09: 32
      Quote: Mestny
      the extremely low intellectual level of modern people in the bulk.

      Does the surname "Kashpirovsky" mean anything to you?
  15. +1
    21 October 2019 09: 41
    Have you ever wondered why the youth do not believe us? Why is it so easily conducted on all sorts of bulk and other "fighters for truth"?

    Perhaps because they see the situation with work, with training? Killed roads, factories (as after the bombing) and then see "beautiful" lies from the TV screen? And they draw conclusions with youthful maximalism - he lied once, will he always lie?
  16. +1
    21 October 2019 10: 04
    Adults create a world with their cynical approach. That's it.
    Children are simpler honest in their actions, desires. This world has not yet adapted them to such rules.
    The most cunning adults use children in the implementation of their plans, Wishlist!
    So it was, it will be so!
    Adults, PARENTS, take care of children, teach, but not in the form of obligation, but in the expectation that the world will be the way we educate our descendants!
    1. 0
      21 October 2019 14: 42
      Mankind has long been living in a system whose management has turned out to be in dishonest hands.
      1. +1
        21 October 2019 15: 38
        Quote: lexus
        Mankind has long been living in a system whose management has turned into dishonest hands

        Just the fact that many people understand this gives hope that the world will not slide into .... there, completely and without turning.
        We will keep the defense until, all is still lost!
  17. +1
    21 October 2019 10: 28
    Which told us about the world, about friendship, about love between nations. Meanwhile, our soldiers were dying from American weapons in Afghanistan. 1983 year ...
    For the sake of objectivity: from Chinese, and from British, French and further down the list.
    You should always say the FULL truth, and not the one that is partially beneficial to you.
  18. +1
    21 October 2019 10: 49
    It is pleasant to recall how during the times of perestroika they began to rush about with informals: rockers, poppers, luber, punks and other, other, other. Well, it was unfashionable to be an ordinary guy going to school, playing soccer and drinking beer on the court. Adults did not understand them .... but is it necessary? 90s of all level, there is no dough - there is nothing to eat and at once all complexity has disappeared, all in bandits and to the market. Now the same story - They do not need to be understood, they must be loved and educated by their own example. Normal parents and the child will be normal.
  19. +1
    21 October 2019 11: 23
    Author, children don't trust us because we constantly deceive them. From the moment before they started talking. It is so accepted. It is more comfortable. That's better". These are such petty deceptions! And they are all "for the benefit of the child"! And the human brain, the world's most advanced survival tool, collects information. Fresh, powerful, young brain. Remembers absolutely everything. And he analyzes, constantly replenishes data, counts, counts, counts ...
    Two things happen to adolescence. First, the biological program tells the teenager that he can already survive on his own. The program is not aware of the modern world, it simply measures the physical parameters and time. And secondly, thousands of confirmed cases of deliberate fraud have accumulated in the department responsible for security.
    And this definitely puts parents in the position of the enemy's unconditional enemy. So says his survival complex. The one who lies to you is the enemy and wants to kill you! They do not believe you. You are not penniless. Are you surprised?!
  20. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 10
    A bit messy, but on business. Fathers and children are an eternal question. Only here is the way to solve it is quite simple and complicated at the same time. Children, especially adolescents, like no one else need a leader, a good guiding force, in a quiet haven where you are warm and pleasant. And our main task, as fathers, as parents, is to become this harbor, ideal, those who want to imitate. In our crazy time it is very difficult, but who said that raising children is easy?
    If we can be necessary for our growing children, then they will not need any bulk, greta and other mediators.
  21. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 40
    Quote: depressant
    By ceasing to be young, by and large we can only worsen it. Or to predict how it can get worse, because we know what we are capable of. After all, it is we who, with good intentions, are paving the way to hell.

    Very well said!
  22. -1
    21 October 2019 12: 47
    Quote: nikvic46
    How many fought with other people's voices?

    They fought, they fought, but only they themselves crashed!
  23. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 49
    Quote: Bacha
    And now, a person does not keep pace with the development of technology, and children quickly master. Then they will grow up and their children will go ahead of them. This is not a problem, it is a given.

    Exactly!
  24. +1
    21 October 2019 14: 50
    Here they mentioned the Maidan in Kiev in 2014, but didn’t Yanyk deserve toppling? After all, he did everything for this, do you think the children did not understand this, did not participate in adult conversations? They all see and hear, hear how Putin threw their parents with retirement, as before they threw their grandparents Yeltsin with Chubais and Gaidar. They see it all and do not believe it. And listen to the same Navalny (whom I do not respect) so there is all the truth with a pinch of lies that they do not notice, but the truth is. The last speech of the GDP is an open demagogy with an instant solution to the problems of the lucky, a sort of lottery - to whom God will send. They see it, but our elite does not.
  25. 0
    23 October 2019 10: 12
    Samantha Fox is right. A terrible paradox. Little sweet girl as "patron" in the cold war. Everyone was touched by her, and she is the enemy. The real enemy. And she ended sadly.
  26. 0
    23 October 2019 14: 09
    What a "society", such are children.
  27. 0
    23 October 2019 22: 15
    I don’t see retired military high-moral colonels working with children !!!! They are not on the streets !! There are none even where, after all, one of the few got up and fought alone against a pack of ethnic bandits, the hero Belyankin, a ray of light in the dark kingdom !!!!
  28. 0
    25 October 2019 01: 35
    I read the news. Russia - Africa = mutual understanding. I read the article, read the comments. It is not surprising that Russia - Africa = mutual understanding. Both are Papuans .... Friends, you understand, your system educates lackeys. Your "elita" in London are traitors. You have everything based on betrayal. You don't even have complete independence. As well as wafrike. You free yourself first, and that drum; those on the clave "Anglo-Saxons-small-shaven - Magawakak Bunga. The Papuans even fought for independence, and you voluntarily became a colony.