Gorbachev: USA sets a bad example for others

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Former Secretary General of the Central Committee of the CPSU, former President (first and last) of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev gave an interview to the Izvestia newspaper. The interview was dedicated to the upcoming 30 anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, associated with the then position of Mikhail Gorbachev. It was precisely then that the Soviet leader, “verbally”, certain Western colleagues promised that NATO would not expand eastward. 30 years have passed - and NATO bases are already deployed at the borders of the Russian Federation, including the territories of Poland and the Baltic states.

Gorbachev: USA sets a bad example for others




Gorbachev:

The fall of the wall was a huge step towards freedom. In this sense, we can talk about the victory of the ideas of perestroika. And the consequences of the fall of the wall, the unification of Germany were positive for Europe and the world.

In an interview, there was a conversation about the INF Treaty, which was signed under Gorbachev and which today virtually ceased to exist. According to the ex-president of the USSR, there is a militarization of world politics, the most important decisions are made bypassing the United Nations.

Gorbachev:

The USA is especially different in this, they “lead” and set a bad example to others. As a result, the cult of power, threats, revived, weapons.

В interview Mikhail Gorbachev was asked whether he had recently approached Vladimir Putin. Gorbachev said that he sent short letters to the president of Russia, as well as the president of France.

The former head of the Soviet Union said that he’s not hiding anywhere and that his book is about to come out, entitled The Future of Global Peace. In it, according to Gorbachev, he talks about his worries and hopes.
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  1. +37
    18 October 2019 07: 16
    Is this stuffed animal still not dead?
    He has been absenteeism for a long time!
    Here it is - the role of the individual in history ...
    Not all historical personalities are personalities. Some are just talkers and rags.
    1. +13
      18 October 2019 07: 20
      This Glod from the planet Katruk still blathers. Oh my God! Call him even Herostratus ... the language does not turn.
      1. +71
        18 October 2019 07: 48
        The fall of the wall was a huge step towards freedom.

        No bastard, you didn’t destroy the wall. You moved the wall to another place.
        You built a wall inside Russia. He divided my homeland into parts.
        By your deeds appeared the walls between Russia and Ukraine, Russia and Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan and the rest of our homeland.
        You, united the Germans, but divided the Russians.
        Because of your mediocre, vile and treacherous rule, the Russians are killing Russians in Ukraine.
        Burn in hell!!!!!!!!!
        1. +9
          18 October 2019 08: 09
          Vladimir16 (Vladimir) I fully support!
        2. -12
          18 October 2019 08: 10
          You confuse sour with soft, divided homeland Yeltsin and co. They wanted sovereignty.
          1. +6
            18 October 2019 10: 12
            Quote: Spambox
            You confuse sour with soft, divided homeland Yeltsin and co. They wanted sovereignty.

            Gorbachev was just a talker and a rag, and Yeltsin was a Judas ... He betrayed the party that elevated him to power ... he betrayed his Homeland to destroy and plunder what was created by our fathers and grandfathers with impunity ... He betrayed the people, and the army, and ours great story ... He betrayed everything and everyone. Maybe in the history of Russia there were rulers and worse ... But that wasn’t mean, that's for sure.
          2. -2
            18 October 2019 13: 49
            Quote: Spambox
            You confuse sour with soft, divided homeland Yeltsin and co. They wanted sovereignty.

            You confuse sovereignty and independence.
            Just the sovereignty of the RSFSR (not independence, namely, sovereignty), declared in 1990, absolutely did not contradict the Constitution of the USSR. Do not believe? Open Article 76 of the 1977 Constitution.
        3. +10
          18 October 2019 08: 49
          Quote: Vladimir16
          The fall of the wall was a huge step towards freedom.

          No bastard, you didn’t destroy the wall. You moved the wall to another place.
          You built a wall inside Russia. He divided my homeland into parts.
          By your deeds appeared the walls between Russia and Ukraine, Russia and Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan and the rest of our homeland.
          You, united the Germans, but divided the Russians.
          Because of your mediocre, vile and treacherous rule, the Russians are killing Russians in Ukraine.
          Burn in hell!!!!!!!!!

          Yes this ..... even in Hell there seems to be no place .... here it creaks, the old anthelmintic and smokes stink here
          1. -1
            18 October 2019 09: 17
            And now humpbacked ... Humpbacked, I said !!!
            1. +5
              18 October 2019 09: 39
              Quote: Spambox
              You confuse sour with soft, divided homeland Yeltsin and co.

              Oh, Anton, Anton ....
              We are the fruit of the love of our parents.

              EBN is a hunchback miscarriage.
              1. -2
                18 October 2019 11: 52
                By the way, EBN itself also has a miscarriage ..
        4. +1
          18 October 2019 09: 01
          This c..ka himself was the manufacturer of what he is now criticizing, reptile.
          1. 0
            18 October 2019 09: 31
            ..it’s not his fault .- the midwife was drunk - he is a victim ..
        5. +7
          18 October 2019 09: 15
          And if you dig deeper, then in the USSR Gorbachev opened an abscess "everything that is not prohibited by law is allowed." Well, not with him, so with a different one, all this would have happened. Sooner or later, everyone who made a fortune in the shadow economy would try to legalize their loot. And where would everything start to rot? That's right: the Caucasus and Central Asia with their system of nepotism and the veneration of "a man with a seal."
          1980, father received an appointment in Grozny. Mother gets a job at the Republican Palace of Pioneers and Schoolchildren. He is interested in the way of life, where there are so many foreign cars, clothes, taverns, strange relationships in the city, why women weigh potatoes on the market without removing gold and rings from their fingers, etc. Here's what they told her about earnings and gold in her hands: all the relatives who are able to cultivate the land are going, tomatoes are planted on the plantations, KAMAZs are hired after the harvest, and they go to sell it north. The following is the calculation for KAMAZ, for relatives, the purchase of new seedlings and other things for the new season. If after all these mandatory deductions there were 15 thousand SOVIET rubles left - the year was lean.
          And gold is in the hands of women in kilograms due to the fact that the husband can expel his wife at any time (the children remain with his father), and this gold is her bank cell for this case.
          In 1986, the shadow economy of the USSR was equal to the economy of the country itself.
          So that it would not burst under Gorbachev, so after him for sure.
          1. 0
            18 October 2019 09: 34
            ... Hunchback had a * drive * - Bear - a wallet ..
          2. +4
            18 October 2019 09: 36
            And if you dig deeper, then in the USSR Gorbachev opened an abscess ..
            ... Gorbachev came and everything went to waste .. The USSR was on the rise And the pace of economic growth scared the United States and the West (https://maxpark.com/community/4375/content/1474073)
            The power itself was an abscess. Here it is an abscess (and it is power) and broke through and flowed ...
            The legal legal assessment of the actions of the leaders of the creeping counter-control in the USSR has not yet been given. and its collapse ..
            Why
            1. +11
              18 October 2019 09: 42
              Isn't it right now? The vertical of power "there is no money, but you are holding on", "eat pasta", "a 6-year-old boy was drunk on a bike", "no one forced you to give birth."
              And this is not rot about power and its structures?
              Yesterday, Porsche rammed a taxi at the intersection of Vernadsky and Lobachevsky. On the one hand, a scorcher drove with 2 fines per day on average, on the other hand a guest worker. Well, who will be guilty according to the results of the trial? And the extreme were three students in a taxi, healing injuries after an accident. One of Slovenia has arrived. I learned ...
        6. 0
          18 October 2019 11: 26
          Quote: Vladimir16

          Because of your mediocre, vile and treacherous rule, the Russians are killing Russians in Ukraine.

          Since when did Bendera become Russian for you?
          The Galicians have never been close and dear to me; let the whole Galicia bring them to fight in the European Union.
          EU toilets and strawberries awaits them.
    2. GRF
      +4
      18 October 2019 07: 26
      and where are the rallies about the criminal liability for fraud politicians? Or did he promise the collapse of the country? where are the legitimate votes to evaluate the activities of the politician who has served his term?
      Where are the courts based on popular assessment of the politician or honorary awards for his work?
      1. +4
        18 October 2019 07: 33
        Gorbachev: USA sets a bad example for others
        labeled slug! it’s you who set a bad example of longevity! absenteeism put you in hell! run!
      2. +4
        18 October 2019 08: 20
        GRF (Eugene) I even remember how a certain current leader awarded the state-labeled RF award.
    3. 0
      18 October 2019 07: 32
      Quote: Victor_B
      Here it is - the role of the individual in history ...
      Not all historical personalities are personalities. Some are just talkers and rags.

      By the way, I am not burdened with love for Yeltsin, but he still had Faberge!
      If you change (at that bend) Humpbacked to Boria, as president of the USSR, he didn’t let go of power!
      Any Shushkevichs and Kravchuk there would have easily multiplied by zero.
      1. +7
        18 October 2019 07: 50
        Both per count. You look the rest would have grown wiser.
      2. +2
        18 October 2019 08: 31
        "By the way, I am not burdened with love for Yeltsin, but he still had Faberge!"
        If you are talking about the shooting of parliament from tanks or the rigging of elections in 1996,
        then it is not "faberge". There is another name for this. Bestiality!!!
        If he also resisted the United States, it would be "Faberge". And so the wheel of the plane "doused" in Ireland. Again, all from the same "Faberge".
      3. 0
        18 October 2019 10: 51
        Quote: Victor_B
        but he still had Faberge!

        Where is Victor?
    4. +7
      18 October 2019 07: 36
      Victor_B (Victor Petrovich) Even hell is too weak for this vile thing!
      1. +8
        18 October 2019 07: 41
        villains live for a long time ... though, what a gorbachev villain .... it’s just a prez used by the states.
    5. +3
      18 October 2019 08: 18
      Let him live. Maybe he will reach the trial for the collapse of the USSR
      1. GRF
        +1
        18 October 2019 09: 01
        Quote: Million
        Let him live. Maybe he will reach the trial for the collapse of the USSR

        Now the responsibility of a politician is expressed only in his not re-election for the next term!
        who of the politicians at least once hinted at his election program, what is ready for condemnation if he does not fulfill it?
        Putin kind of said that one should not vote for a politician, but for his politics, but he does not stutter that politics should not diverge from election promises ...
    6. 0
      18 October 2019 09: 19
      Quote: Victor_B
      Is this stuffed animal still not dead?
      He has been absenteeism for a long time!
      Here it is - the role of the individual in history ...
      Not all historical personalities are personalities. Some are just talkers and rags.

      Yes, they put absenteeism in hell, but to my regret, in Russia they can also put the Gorbachev Center ...
    7. +3
      18 October 2019 10: 32
      Quote: Victor_B
      Is this stuffed animal still not dead?
      He has been absenteeism for a long time!
      Former General Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU, former President (first and last) of the USSR Mikhail Gorbachev, and the main traitor of our Motherland, and the most productive agent of the "world elite". I'm not angry, let him rest in peace.
    8. +1
      18 October 2019 13: 36
      Gorbachev is just a switchman - with or without him, the USSR was doomed to collapse, in view of the "correct" policy of the CPSU, which had been pursuing it for decades.
  2. +13
    18 October 2019 07: 19
    The interview was dedicated to the upcoming 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, associated with the then position of Mikhail Gorbachev.
    Misha has an anniversary so that his hands are dry.
    The fall of the wall was a huge step towards freedom.
    That is why in the former GDR in the fashion of a T-shirt: Return my wall and make it two meters higher.
    1. -12
      18 October 2019 07: 35
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      That is why in the former GDR in the fashion of a T-shirt: Return my wall and make it two meters higher.

      Well, this is just understandable, loafers dream of the past times, when they, like a "showcase of socialism", were fed by the whole social camp, but we need this wall now?
      1. +1
        18 October 2019 09: 48
        The Germans were at the top of the CMEA, no need to drive. Nobody fed them. And I would call Czechoslovakia a showcase. Although, just, the Czechs were wound on "travel passports" for the weekend in the GDR.
        1. +1
          18 October 2019 10: 18
          Quote: Ural-4320
          A showcase, I would call Czechoslovakia.

          this is your personal opinion and incorrect, the GDR had nothing to compare directly with, they have neighbors and relatives of the FRG, therefore they tried their best.
          Quote: Ural-4320
          The Germans were upstairs in the CMEA

          at the top of what? The biological chain, as the main consumer of mat values? Yes! So I’m talking about this.
    2. +15
      18 October 2019 07: 37
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Bring back my wall
      And I do not like capitalism! Honest pioneer!
      And Gorbachev was twice a traitor - he not only betrayed the country, he betrayed socialism!
      1. +1
        18 October 2019 08: 46
        Uncle Lee (Vladimir) What is happening in our country can hardly be called capitalism.
        But socialist ideas will still win, and much faster than we can assume.
  3. +13
    18 October 2019 07: 20
    Judas surfaced so that he ... "The worst example to others" showed the USSR when, due to the actions of a bunch of scoundrels bought by mattresses, they destroyed a truly Great Country. And how many hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people died because of this? Burn the marked alive and scatter the ashes.
    1. GRF
      -3
      18 October 2019 07: 35
      why are people silent? is suffering? I agree?

      pogroms are an extreme method, but can one be done legally, civilized or unworthy?
      1. +2
        18 October 2019 08: 04
        I have a question for Gobachev: when ... when ... when ... when do you glue your holey fins?
        1. GRF
          0
          18 October 2019 08: 50
          Quote: Aerodrome
          I have a question for Gobachev: when ... when ... when ... when do you glue your holey fins?

          To this question, you can only answer a suicide, standing on the edge of the abyss or a killer holding a gun at his temple, but even that, not a fact, suddenly God has other plans ...
      2. +1
        18 October 2019 08: 53
        GRF (Eugene) the inhabitants only have to become a people, too scrapers are zombified by evening and afternoon M. It remains to be hoped that the instinct of self-preservation will still work.
  4. +4
    18 October 2019 07: 24
    The USA is especially different in this, they “lead” and set a bad example to others. As a result, the cult of power, threats, and weapons was revived.


    Mishan didn’t get into such an old age to talk about his masters, they can cover the fondik.
  5. +6
    18 October 2019 07: 25
    If we recall that his reign gave the country only war everywhere - not him to talk about peace. When he was around Moscow, tanks shied away, and at Arbat the beters were burning
  6. -2
    18 October 2019 07: 26
    "deleted word" is spotted. No shame, no conscience. Something else blathers.
  7. +3
    18 October 2019 07: 26
    the devils are afraid of this labeled scum even in hell ... will betray everyone and ruin everything ...
    1. GRF
      +2
      18 October 2019 07: 39
      the devils will not allow their sixes to steer ...
      but they may well punish for incomplete work ...
  8. +4
    18 October 2019 07: 29
    Someone's "cow" and "mumbled" would, but his ... better "kept silent"!
  9. +10
    18 October 2019 07: 34
    One of the most vile personalities in the history of mankind!
    1. GRF
      +1
      18 October 2019 07: 41
      Quote: Stroporez
      One of the most vile personalities in the history of mankind!

      talent! and notice, not condemned!
      1. +4
        18 October 2019 07: 48
        [b] [/ b] The time will come and be rewarded to all and the labeled and his followers!
        1. GRF
          +1
          18 October 2019 07: 55
          why hope for tomorrow if you can do today?
          especially since they betrayed yesterday!
          1. +2
            18 October 2019 08: 50
            GRF (Eugene) Have you brought a batch of new wonderful ice axes to the sportmaster store?)
    2. 0
      18 October 2019 23: 28
      Quote: Stroporez
      One of the most vile personalities in the history of mankind!

      Not a person, person.
  10. +2
    18 October 2019 07: 36
    then it was then that the Soviet leader, some Western colleagues “orally” promised

    Even if they had "promised" in writing, it would have changed little. Compliance with the clauses of the treaty on the part of the West is absolutely worthless, unless there is a strong opponent on the opposite side who can distinguish noodles on the ears from real guarantees.
  11. +8
    18 October 2019 07: 40
     In it, according to Gorbachev, he talks about his worries and hopes.

    What can the traitor of his country, the destroyer of statehood, be worried about? Only about the degree of shame and contempt on the part of compatriots. The best people of Russia are dying, and this parasite, which caused its restructuring to devastate in the economy, moral humiliation by lines, time frames, restrictions and fraud, continues to smoke the sky. Due to this, a gang of marauders led by an irresponsible alcoholic came to power. The rank of any ruler is determined by deeds. What good did this ruler do for his country? What I left behind.
    So sit where you will not spit in the face, and pretend that you have already died ...
    1. +5
      18 October 2019 07: 57
      Quote: ROSS 42
      What can the traitor of his country, the destroyer of statehood, be worried about?

      It worries that in the event of a nuclear war, its cafe, where he advertised pizza, will burn down. From the "rebuilt" country, he fled from the wrath of the people, and there is nowhere to run. Spotted mouse survives.
  12. +4
    18 October 2019 07: 41
    "... declared that 'he is not hiding anywhere' and that his book is about to be released ..."
    =========
    Writer, damn it! am He still thinks of himself as a "great personality" ...... They say it is true: only the grave will correct the "hunchback" !!!
    1. +3
      18 October 2019 07: 57
      ... and in the grave count aspen to score, so as not to crawl out
    2. +2
      18 October 2019 11: 12
      Quote: venik
      Writer, damn it!

      The book should come out under the title "Confessions of a Traitor."
  13. +6
    18 October 2019 07: 42
    It still blathers! He writes books! And who reads them? And what money do they publish? Maybe for the anniversary the order in the Kremlin will be given? For the collapse of the country and the deception of the people?
    1. +3
      18 October 2019 09: 42
      so, after all, everyone in the Kremlin adheres to Gorbachev’s views and orders for a traitor are not a problem, or else the humpback center will be muddied for our money
  14. +5
    18 October 2019 07: 42
    Do not take close - the comic history of the USSR (not mine (s))

    As soon as Lenin died, it turned out that the second person in the party, Comrade Trotsky, was a traitor. Kamenev, Zinoviev, Bukharin and Stalin overthrew Trotsky and expelled from the USSR.

    But after a couple of years it turned out that Kamenev, Zinoviev and Bukharin are also enemies and pests. Then the valiant comrade Heinrich Yagoda shot them.

    A little later Yagoda, as an enemy agent, was shot by Yezhov.

    But after a couple of years it turned out that Yezhov was not a comrade, but an ordinary traitor and an enemy agent. And Yezhov shot Beria.

    After the death of Stalin, everyone realized that Beria was also a traitor. Then Zhukov overthrew and shot Beria.

    But soon Khrushchev learned that Zhukov was an enemy and a conspirator. And he sent Zhukov to the Urals.

    And a little later it was revealed that Stalin was an enemy, a pest and a traitor. And with it, and most of the Politburo. Then Stalin was taken out of the mausoleum, and the political bureau and Shepilov, who joined them, were dispersed by honest party members, led by Khrushchev.

    Several years passed and it turned out that Khrushchev was a voluntarist, a rogue, an adventurer and an enemy. Then Brezhnev sent Khrushchev to retire.

    Soon Brezhnev died, and it turned out that he was a senile, a pest and a cause of stagnation.

    Then there were two more comrades whom no one had time to remember, because they were dead, like flies.

    But then a young, energetic Gorbachev came to power. And it turned out that the whole party was a party of pests, traitors and enemies, but now he will correct everything ...

    It was then that the USSR collapsed. And Gorbachev turned out to be an enemy and a traitor.
    1. 0
      18 October 2019 07: 56
      “Then there was perestroika, then - glasnost. Much has already been written about this.

      Was the end of Soviet power inevitable? - This question is asked endlessly both in our country and abroad.

      I believe that, in principle, “by and large”, the system was doomed, its erosion occurred continuously during the Brezhnev period of “stagnation”, but it rested on the terrible force of inertia and collapsed only when Gorbachev with his “perestroika” (and even more - publicity policy) violated this inertia. As far back as the nineteenth century, the French historian de Tocqueville derived the following formula: "The most dangerous moment for a bad government comes when it is trying to improve." Great and wise words!

      Brezhnev, for all his intellectual level of an army political worker, instinctively felt that not a single stone should be touched in this system, otherwise everything would fall apart. Gorbachev no longer had this intuition. "

      Georgy Ilyich Mirsky “Life in three eras”
      1. 0
        18 October 2019 09: 13
        It would be better if the late Mirsky wrote only books on the history of the East. His performances on TV and radio and this book, which I quote, frankly, were not impressed.
        1. 0
          18 October 2019 10: 50
          And on the contrary, I really liked this book. Interesting events describes.
          Well, all people are different - someone likes one thing, someone else. wink
    2. 0
      18 October 2019 10: 32
      We surprised Europe
      They showed simplicity.
      For many years they licked
      It turned out that the wrong one.
      But the people are not discouraged
      Briskly moving forward.
      Our party is dear
      We’ll pick another one.
    3. -1
      18 October 2019 11: 05
      Quote: Sentinel-vs
      Do not take close - the comic history of the USSR (not mine (s))

      You are welcome ! Don't write anything better. Write about something, but not about the USSR.
  15. +2
    18 October 2019 07: 46
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    The interview was dedicated to the upcoming 30th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, associated with the then position of Mikhail Gorbachev.
    Misha has an anniversary so that his hands are dry.
    The fall of the wall was a huge step towards freedom.
    That is why in the former GDR in the fashion of a T-shirt: Return my wall and make it two meters higher.

    and: "
  16. -1
    18 October 2019 07: 49
    "About to be released" his book, entitled "The Future of Global Peace"
    would be silent, then what he has done enough is more than enough for more than one
    1. +2
      18 October 2019 10: 46
      Quote: Barmaleyka
      "About to be released" his book, entitled "The Future of Global Peace"
      would be silent, then what he has done enough is more than enough for more than one

      Hands to beat off to someone who picks up this book.
      1. +1
        18 October 2019 12: 52
        A book solemnly burn in the squares. Something it reminds me of ....
  17. +3
    18 October 2019 07: 53
    The "talker" whom I, due to my inexperience, at the age of 19, listened to.
    People, do not believe the "talkers", they, like that boy with a pipe, can take us away and drown us.
    1. +2
      18 October 2019 11: 01
      Quote: Troll
      The "talker" whom I, due to my inexperience, at the age of 19, listened to.

      Youth passes, awareness passes, your fault is not. But this "talker" was made for years, from the "Temny horse" it was necessary to mold a new "Juda Golovlyov" and such that the world did not yet know. The stakes were high - the collapse of the world's largest country. For the sake of his rise, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko died. The man who pulled him by the ears also died. But I don't understand the role of one person in the rise of Gorbachev. Who played a decisive role in this game, saying "only Gorbachev can take this post." Coincidence, or intentional?
      1. +1
        18 October 2019 12: 56
        "In the American magazine National Interest" in 1993 there was even an article entitled "Andropov's Kidneys", the author of which argued that if Andropov's health had been better, there would not have been the whole chain of events that would have led to the collapse of the USSR. the issue is controversial and difficult, but it is difficult to disagree with the fact that, despite the steadily increasing economic gap between the Soviet Union and the West, there were no direct signs of an explosion inside the country, the population's discontent did not exceed the level acceptable for the leadership, the dissident movement was suppressed by Andropov, the situation was quite stable, no liberation movement was noticed in the republics. Of course, the phenomena that were formidable and potentially detrimental to Soviet power were accumulating latently, but everything could drag on much longer. "

        Georgy Ilyich Mirsky “Life in three eras”
        1. +1
          18 October 2019 13: 17
          Quote: Plantagenet
          Of course, the phenomena that were formidable and potentially detrimental to the Soviet regime accumulated latently, but everything could drag on much longer. "

          Everything is much more complicated and confusing.
          1. 0
            18 October 2019 13: 25
            Use Occam's razor and you will see that everything is much simpler.
        2. 0
          18 October 2019 13: 44
          Bankruptcy of the USSR in the 80s would have happened in any case, and after it the collapse, the point of no return was passed in the mid 70s.
          1. +2
            18 October 2019 14: 28
            Quote: Vadim237
            a point of no return was passed in the middle of the 70s.

            It began in 1954 with the advent of Khrushchev.
          2. 0
            18 October 2019 14: 28
            "This is a controversial and complex issue, but it is difficult to disagree with the fact that, despite the steadily increasing economic gap between the Soviet Union and the West, there were no immediate signs of an explosion inside the country, the population's discontent did not exceed the level acceptable for the leadership, the dissident movement was suppressed by Andropov , the situation was quite stable, no liberation movement was noticed in the republics. "
  18. +1
    18 October 2019 08: 00
    When, when? ...
  19. +4
    18 October 2019 08: 02
    A vivid example of a person who completely lacks the concepts of conscience, shame and honor.
    "I am three hundred years old, I crawled out of the darkness .." (c)
    1. +3
      18 October 2019 10: 45
      Quote: Van 16
      A vivid example of a person who completely lacks the concepts of conscience, shame and honor.

      Sorry, but Gorbachev is not a man, but a mammal.
      1. +1
        18 October 2019 13: 30
        No need to apologize, I absolutely agree with you hi
  20. +2
    18 October 2019 08: 07
    Labeled such a country collapsed, and for what? To advertise pizza and luxury handbags?
    To hang out beautifully?
    They do not even want to take him to hell. Disdain.
    1. +1
      18 October 2019 13: 32
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      Azval labeled such a country

      Betrayed!
  21. +5
    18 October 2019 08: 08
    Well, why such a photo in the morning.
    Breakfast does not go into the throat.
    Ugh.
  22. +1
    18 October 2019 08: 16
    and why do I want to just spit deliciously in it?
  23. +7
    18 October 2019 08: 17
    Mikhail Gorbachev's speech at a seminar at the American University in Turkey: “The goal of my whole life has been the destruction of communism, an intolerable dictatorship over people.

    I was fully supported by my wife, who understood the need for this even earlier than me. To achieve this goal, I used my position in the party and country.

    That is why my wife kept pushing me to consistently occupy an increasingly higher position in the country.

    When I personally met the West, I realized that I could not retreat from the goal. And to achieve it, I had to replace the entire leadership of the CPSU and the USSR, as well as leadership in all socialist countries. My ideal at that time was the path of the social democratic countries. The planned economy did not allow to realize the potential that the peoples of the socialist camp had. Only the transition to a market economy could enable our countries to develop dynamically.

    I managed to find associates in realizing these goals. Among them, A.H. Yakovlev and E.G. Shevardnadze, whose merits in our common cause are simply invaluable. "
    1. +2
      18 October 2019 09: 34
      It is worth noting that in this quote there is no word about capitalism. And it could have turned out what he dreamed of: a rejection of the old dogmas and the transition to other forms of state building.
      For example, in Czechoslovakia, members of the Communist Party calmly went to church. I know because my mother was invited to church by a Czech colleague, a teacher of the Russian language. In the evening, my mother was hysterical, it was a pure "break of the template": she was a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, the granddaughter of a high-ranking priest, an atheist, without 5 minutes, saw with her own eyes and felt that socialism is quietly getting along with religion in the country, while not nagging each other.
      A schoolboy could even have a deuce at the father's place. :-) And it's not a joke.
    2. 0
      18 October 2019 09: 34
      Were they agents of influence or simply agents?
      1. +5
        18 October 2019 10: 39
        Quote: Pavel57
        Were they agents of influence or simply agents?

        Not ! They were traitors.
    3. +4
      18 October 2019 10: 42
      Quote: Guards turn
      I was fully supported by my wife, who understood the need for this even earlier than me. To achieve this goal, I used my position in the party and country.

      And in order to fulfill your wife’s desire, you are a mammal, threw millions of people under the caterpillars of 210 tanks. Hitler is crying.
  24. -1
    18 October 2019 08: 20
    Promises cannot be trusted. World history has repeatedly confirmed this.
  25. +3
    18 October 2019 08: 26
    The USA is especially different in this, they “lead” and set a bad example to others.

    Who would say .... already this figure showed an example to all, an example to all examples ..... however, some follow this example too!
  26. +5
    18 October 2019 08: 27

    And so it is ...
  27. +2
    18 October 2019 08: 39
    If this is not dead, then probably God wants it to see the collapse of its deeds.
  28. +1
    18 October 2019 08: 43
    Do not you think that his spot is somewhat reminiscent of the mainland of America?
  29. +3
    18 October 2019 09: 19
    Crawled into the light of God, croaked, and again in the mud. Let him wipe his little book.
  30. 0
    18 October 2019 09: 27
    this "literate" still plagues paper on his books
  31. 0
    18 October 2019 09: 32
    All people are not eternal .. but where does he want to be buried?
  32. +3
    18 October 2019 09: 39
    Misha, you are a spotty monster, the tears and sufferings of Soviet citizens do not hiccup, you better order yourself a cremation, because your grave will be turned into a garbage can for everything you have done. And you still dare to open the mouth of the vile.
  33. 0
    18 October 2019 09: 43
    Why should he hide, he got a good job in England. Both Russia and the USA pay him a pension.
  34. +6
    18 October 2019 09: 47
    In the Ban of the Tagged One. During the unification of Germany, by the way, contrary to international law, Gorbachev did not demand anything in return. And now this same Germany does not recognize Crimea as Russian, although there was a referendum there. How much blood was shed all over the USSR because of his "rapprochement with the West", how many hundreds of millions of destinies were broken, how many tens of millions became refugees. And not only in the USSR. And he still teaches everyone how to live.
    Why are we constantly reminded of this German pensioner?
  35. 0
    18 October 2019 10: 03
    Is Gorbi still alive?
  36. +2
    18 October 2019 10: 03
    Burn him in hell, traitor!
  37. 0
    18 October 2019 10: 06
    Burn in hell.
    "So that you die! So that you live on one salary!" (c) Lelik
  38. 0
    18 October 2019 10: 08
    die in agony
  39. +2
    18 October 2019 10: 37
    Quote: Pedrodepackes
    loafers dream past times

    No Alex, everything is learned in comparison. Only now it's too late to drink Borjomi, we passed. And this "ghoul Humpbacked" betrayed them to the Germans, just like Kolya Ceausescu.
  40. +1
    18 October 2019 11: 47
    He must write on books, and a recognition in the Investigative Committee.
  41. 0
    18 October 2019 13: 31
    Judah Gorbi, give Russia a New Year gift - just die!
  42. +1
    18 October 2019 13: 44
    No honor, no conscience, no homeland ............
  43. +2
    18 October 2019 14: 06
    He would have sat and did not lean out, was silent about his incompetence.
    Or maybe it was not incompetence, but he openly licked the West?
  44. 0
    18 October 2019 14: 18
    There was a colonel in one school by the name of Perednya. The cadets put together a couplet about him: "And Colonel Perednya, whatever he says - that's it .... (nonsense)."
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  46. +1
    18 October 2019 15: 19
    Silent would be better, village boob. You yourself have not shown a bad example? It is difficult to come up with a bad example.
  47. -1
    18 October 2019 15: 25
    on RIA there is also this: He stressed that "he is not hiding anywhere" and does not hide his opinion, which he expresses in interviews and articles published in Russia and abroad.

    “Sometimes I notice that my thoughts resonate in the words and actions of the leaders,” he concluded. laughing laughing laughing but it seems to me that grandfather is confusing. He hears the opinions of others and takes this for his thoughts. As it was before ...

    in fact, a person who finds himself on the sidelines of history is trying to recall his existence. hypanut grandfather wishes laughing laughing
  48. -1
    18 October 2019 15: 27
    ... one must give up altogether, since such authority advises. laughing laughing lol wassat
  49. +1
    18 October 2019 15: 53
    It would be better to be silent in a rag, Judas of a planetary scale.
  50. +1
    18 October 2019 16: 25
    Is this tagged still alive? Yes, let his generation-heirs leave for him !!! Sorry, LORD, for these words!
  51. 0
    18 October 2019 18: 56
    The wall stood for 27 years. Divided Germany lasted 40 years, 1949. Whatever they say, it was the standard of living in Germany that was the magnet that attracted East Germans.
    Now let's talk about us, loved ones. Yes, a large country fell apart and was divided into 15 countries. But...Can we say that the standard of living in the Russian Federation has become that magnet, that driving force capable of peacefully persuading the peoples of the former republics to renounce sovereignty and unite into a single state? Those. For almost 30 years, neither the Russian Federation nor any other of the former ones has achieved such economic prosperity that the peoples wanted to merge into a single state.
    Please do not confuse this with traveling to earn money.
    Result: the Germans, after 40 years, reunited as part of one, the economically stronger of the two. How many more years are needed for at least the Russians to unite, not by force, but by peaceful expression of will? And not necessarily under the flag of the Russian Federation, because Russians are not only in the current Russian Federation.
  52. LCA
    0
    18 October 2019 20: 23
    The future of the global world does not lie in what kind of technosphere there will be, on what physical principles it will be based, whether it will implement and how protection from fools and villains will be implemented, but in what kind of person will it be? - And depending on what a person really becomes, this will be his civilization, including arts, science, the technosphere, systems of protection from fools and villains, and everything else.
  53. 0
    18 October 2019 21: 56
    Gorby, will there be a lot of pictures in your book, otherwise the Downs won’t be able to read?
  54. 0
    19 October 2019 11: 55
    You read the comments.. Well, the Maidan is tomorrow in Russia..)
    There will be nothing. Everything will be as determined.