Norway urged to abandon F-35 due to their environmental friendliness

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The first Norwegian F-35 fighters arrived in the country in 2017. By 2030, their fleet is expected to have 52 units, eventually replacing 57 F-16 vehicles. These statistics just caused a heated discussion, during which calls were made to abandon the "malicious" invisibility.


F-35 Norwegian Air Force




Gluttonous F-35


As Dagsavisen points out, operating new US-made cars will result in significantly higher carbon emissions, jeopardizing Norway’s commitment to reduce them to 60 percent of the year’s 2005.

Compared to the old F-16, the F-35 is much heavier (31 tons fully equipped against 13 tons) and have much more powerful engines. As a result, they burn 5600 liters of jet fuel per hour, compared to only the 3500 liters of the old F-16, which have been used since 1980 of the year.

When the F-35 fleet is fully formed in 10 years, the emissions of carbon dioxide produced by the Norwegian Air Force will increase by as much as 207 percent, the Internet newspaper reports. By 2030, the Navy alone will account for 56 percent of the total CO2 allocated by the armed forces. As a result, F-35 in Norway is considered environmentally friendly.

We cannot allow this, when all parts of society must reduce emissions to zero by 2050 year

- said Gaute Airjord, leader of the environmental organization Nature and Youth.


F-16 Norwegian Air Force

Do not want F-35 - give a nuclear bomb


As the Norwegian Armed Forces Communications Advisor Lars Jämbl noted, there is “broad agreement” that resolving “climate and environmental issues is one of the biggest challenges we face.” As an example, he emphasized that the defense sector, which is preparing for a massive build-up of power, is gradually phasing out the use of fuel oil.

However, in general, these statements provoked strong discontent among the generals and the forces supporting him. Per-Willy Amundsen of the right-wing Progress Party believes that priority should be given to Norway's defense capabilities.

If climate fanatics do not want to abandon the armed forces, then they must come up with constructive proposals on how to reduce emissions as much as possible without jeopardizing defense capabilities

- noted the politician.

According to him, then it is absolutely necessary to make the transition to nuclear weaponwhich has virtually no emissions and can dramatically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

But these climate fanatics do not put in the first place neither the security of Norway, nor the security of our citizens

- Amundsen added indignantly.

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  1. +30
    17 October 2019 16: 47
    I support completely and completely!
    Let's say a solid NO to smoky and smoking aggregates in NATO countries!
    laughing
    1. +15
      17 October 2019 16: 57
      Quote: Labrador
      I support completely and completely!
      Let's say a solid NO to smoky and smoking aggregates in NATO countries!
      laughing

      Greta Tunberg must be set on them. They’ll dance.
      1. +14
        17 October 2019 17: 12
        Greta is the daughter of the GRU regiment. I escaped to foreign intelligence during the summer holidays. She said that until she destroys NATO, she won’t return home. smile
        1. +7
          17 October 2019 18: 04
          Scouts of Scandinavia! Transfer to sailing boats and helmets with horns will start to do.
          1. +6
            17 October 2019 19: 23
            They burn bonfires to prepare food. Zeros with CO2 will not work. request
            1. +6
              17 October 2019 20: 15
              No need to cook. Let the raw eat. So useful. Especially mushrooms)))
              1. +7
                17 October 2019 20: 30
                Stanislas hi With mushrooms, they seem to be in complete order, especially with fly agarics. How else to explain these "quirks"? request
              2. +3
                17 October 2019 21: 33
                We cannot allow this, when all parts of society must reduce emissions to zero by 2050 year
                They burn bonfires to prepare food. Zeros with CO2 will not work.
                Bad read. All parts of society must reduce emissions to ZERO. Anthropogenic CO2 emissions. And this is possible only in a single case. I translate: by the year 50, the Norwegians should become extinct. Without exception.
                Only in this case will carbon emissions from Norwegian society be equal to zero.
                1. +1
                  18 October 2019 08: 12
                  With such a number of homosexuals in Europe ... yes easily!
      2. +2
        17 October 2019 20: 09
        Quote: den3080
        Greta tunberg on them

        Greta somewhere pierced. The European parliamentarian from Germany has already denounced her in the service of Russian intelligence. request
  2. +16
    17 October 2019 16: 48
    Greta's brain good
  3. +7
    17 October 2019 16: 49
    The case of crazy Gretta Tunberg lives .... That's nice.
  4. +4
    17 October 2019 16: 51
    Neighboring Swedes have long come up with everything.
  5. +6
    17 October 2019 16: 51
    riot on the ship ??
    1. +3
      17 October 2019 16: 55
      Quote: Atlant-1164
      riot on the ship ??

      No. It's just that the "ship" is sinking and the rats are running ... feel
      1. +4
        17 October 2019 17: 02
        No, a fire in a madhouse during a flood. wassat
  6. +5
    17 October 2019 16: 54
    . calls to abandon the "malicious" invisibility

    Oh how !!!
    So he proved after that that Frantic Gretta is not our agent !!!
    Although, it "rolls a barrel" in our direction is not so weak ..... it is encrypted! Oh, and the work at "Shtirlitsa" is difficult in a skirt and with pigtails!
  7. +2
    17 October 2019 16: 57
    They act quickly ... in the morning we read an article on HE about the environmental safety of submarines
    https://topwar.ru/163411-jekologicheskaja-bezopasnost-podvodnoj-lodki.html
    and immediately applied, however, on yeroplans smile
    1. +3
      17 October 2019 17: 24
      Submarines for them is a passed stage. Now, climate fanatics will begin to pursue in the Norwegian sky F-35 on green hot air balloons!)))
      1. +4
        17 October 2019 19: 28
        Sorry, but in modern hot air balloons gas burners heat the air. And this gas may turn out to be Russian. Will they attribute their ecology to us?
        1. +3
          17 October 2019 20: 34
          Quote: Leopold
          gas may turn out to be Russian.

          This is for them on the drum. Here a brighter and more intricate puzzle may develop: when natural gas is burned, carbon dioxide is formed, creating a greenhouse effect. And it’s already dangerous, not Gazprom’s gas without freedom molecules, but carbon dioxide formed from it. Since most of Russia is not in the subtropics, it is vitally interested in the spread of ozone holes with global warming. Plus, this will lead to flooding due to rising sea levels in a large part of NATO. An indirect confirmation of Russia's insidious plans is the development of the technologies of deep-water drilling that are not very necessary for her, because The East Siberian plain with oil and gas and a low population density that will have to be resettled in Crimea (!) Will be under water. And the origin of Angela Merkel from the GDR (!), Which is promoting Nord Stream-2, with the conversion of German energy to gas, suggests that Russia has already gone far in its aggressive plans to flood the NATO bloc. And do not laugh: the dismemberment of Ukraine will occur by rising water. And Russia, the Donbass, with its magnificent dumps from coal mines, from which it will build dams for itself, has already attracted from its sphere.
          In short, everyone will either sink or bend from the heat unbearable, and aggressive Russia will be in heaven on Earth, and will aggressively trade snow in the winter. Here crying
          1. +3
            17 October 2019 20: 47
            Andrei hi Spent almost an hour, but penetrated. Liked. good Especially the last paragraph. laughing
            1. +1
              17 October 2019 20: 52
              Thank you for your time in my modest work. hi
              1. +4
                17 October 2019 20: 55
                Thank you, time was wasted. So as not to creak - involved. And appreciated the humor. good
  8. +2
    17 October 2019 16: 57
    Spears, battle axes, crossbows. Environmentally friendly weapons.
    1. Alf
      +2
      17 October 2019 18: 50
      Quote: AU Ivanov.
      Spears, battle axes, crossbows. Environmentally friendly weapons.

      Yeah, well, environmentally friendly weapons. What are spears, axes and bolted arrows made of? Made of wood. Cutting down trees worsen the environment.
      1. -2
        17 October 2019 18: 52
        Well then, let them wave their fists.
        1. +3
          17 October 2019 19: 30
          Uh, let me remind you! PROSCHA - a piece of flexible substance, with which you can throw a stone further and with skills - more precisely.
        2. 0
          17 October 2019 21: 36
          Well then, let them wave their fists.
          Cobblestone ... Ordinary cobblestone.
        3. 0
          18 October 2019 08: 00
          Not ... Completely stop anthropogenic emissions can only be one way. Stop breathing. Without exception. Very environmentally friendly.
  9. -3
    17 October 2019 16: 58
    Sooner or later, for one reason or another, everyone will refuse from the FU35.
  10. -3
    17 October 2019 17: 00
    Sooner or later, for one reason or another, everyone will refuse from the FU35.
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 17: 09
      He will be branded and forgotten as a Comanche, the "6th generation" will be produced (well, what they will call in the West 6th) in reality will again be worse than the Russian 4+
  11. 0
    17 October 2019 17: 01
    Let them breathe less often and open their mouths, and they’ll insert the bonnets in a known place, so as not to spoil the air
  12. +1
    17 October 2019 17: 06
    Do not stop the general from playing with new expensive toys.
  13. +3
    17 October 2019 17: 09
    I applaud while standing!
  14. 0
    17 October 2019 17: 09
    Norwegians generally have enough screw planes, they are cheaper, they look beautiful against the backdrop of the mountains lol
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 17: 13
      Let them rearm on gliders!
    2. 0
      17 October 2019 18: 19
      not sure if this will work
      1. +5
        17 October 2019 19: 36
        Of course it won’t work. How much do you need to dig, extract and process so that such a plastic whatnot with batteries rose into the air?
    3. Alf
      +2
      17 October 2019 18: 51
      Quote: Thrifty
      Norwegians generally have enough screw aircraft

      But gasoline is not environmentally friendly ...
  15. +10
    17 October 2019 17: 12
    This is Hochma of the week .. Cockroaches in their heads standing ovation .. laughing Here Cho Greta is doing life-giving!
  16. +2
    17 October 2019 17: 19
    I propose that Norway completely abandon everything that environmentalists could harm, even don’t switch to horses or their relatives and friends. Since horses eat a lot of hay, then they poop, according to British scientists, it’s poop that causes warming, and drakkars are wooden, this leads to deforestation ... Only dwell dwell ... damn, and what to drown ????
    1. +8
      17 October 2019 18: 18
      and what to drown something ????

      The computer, after entering the initial data, having thought a little about your question, answered simply:
      It is necessary to fight not with the consequence, but with the cause. What, you say, are they called environmental degradation? Norse?
      AI will put things in order.
      1. +2
        17 October 2019 18: 49
        Norway is the 13th largest oil producer in the world, I don’t remember gas ...
        They must complete all hydrocarbon production, it is inhumane and non-ecological)
        1. Alf
          0
          17 October 2019 19: 06
          Quote: NN52
          Norway is the 13th largest oil producer in the world,

          Somewhere flashed infa that oil in Norway is running out.
  17. +3
    17 October 2019 17: 22
    that is, destroying people using airplanes is normal, but polluting the environment is bad. fool
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 18: 33
      According to their logic, a person is a kind of enemy (essentially true).
      1. +1
        17 October 2019 18: 38
        But are they not humans? Let them start with themselves ... Where is the logic? ... I'm tired of such a mischief ... this is not even fake news, this is some hopeless stupidity.
  18. +3
    17 October 2019 17: 29
    Greta Tumberg is clearly our girl. Just parents were very fond of Tuborg.
  19. +3
    17 October 2019 17: 32
    All is correct. Drakkar and Brodeks - much more environmentally friendly.
    And most importantly, Norway benefited from them more.
  20. +5
    17 October 2019 17: 45
    According to him, then it is absolutely necessary to make the transition to nuclear weapons, which have practically no emissions and can drastically reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

    Just do not need to give ecologists ideas. And then they, for the sake of ridding the planet of the main, in their opinion, source of greenhouse gases, may well begin speaking out for a life-giving nuclear war. And what - according to its results, you don’t smoke plants, nor you cars, nor you killers of rare animals. Everything is quiet and calm:
    Quiet and warm everywhere
    Ashes and glass everywhere.
    ©
    1. +3
      17 October 2019 18: 15
      I don’t understand why to deal with natural greenhouse gases - the more there are. the more stimulated the growth of greenery, which absorbs these gases. The ecosystem itself will adjust to the desired level, if not to reduce planting.
    2. Alf
      +2
      17 October 2019 18: 53
      Slowly rockets float away
      Meet with them you do not wait
      And although America is a little sorry
      Norwegians have it ahead.
    3. -1
      17 October 2019 20: 29
      And then they, for the sake of ridding the planet of the main, in their opinion, source of greenhouse gases, may well begin speaking out for a life-giving nuclear war.
      Nuclear war can best compensate for global warming. good
  21. +1
    17 October 2019 17: 48
    Everything is right! And the war is generally toxic !!!
  22. +2
    17 October 2019 17: 49
    Did Gretchen Tu-tu bite them?
    And about the video: Does Fu-22 have such an angle of attack in flight?
  23. 0
    17 October 2019 18: 10
    When the F-35 fleet is fully formed in 10 years, the emissions of carbon dioxide produced by the Norwegian Air Force will increase by as much as 207 percent, the Internet newspaper reports. By 2030, the Navy alone will account for 56 percent of the total CO2 allocated by the armed forces. As a result, F-35 in Norway is considered environmentally friendly.

    The news from the madhouse or the American yoke is weakening and you can refuse the F-35? Found how to culturally justify the rejection of the F-35.
  24. +1
    17 October 2019 18: 13
    what problems, if you need ecology, go to military paragliders or gliders
    emissions are minimal (although I can’t vouch for the pilot's fart when meeting with opponents' planes)
  25. +1
    17 October 2019 18: 17
    Quote: kupitman
    and what to drown something ????

    dried fish, but it also forms gases ...
  26. +1
    17 October 2019 18: 22
    Norwegians, they are still misers ... Let's go on the fifth, you see. They sensed that the United States and Israel have swallowed an expensive toy, like the Patriot air defense system ..
    The United States, with its trillion-dollar military budget, turned out to be in "kalosha" .. Its AUGs also do not frighten anyone and seem to be going to cut it ..
    I think soon Trump himself will ask for a meeting with Putin, about which he had long dreamed hehe
  27. +3
    17 October 2019 18: 23
    Now it’s clear why they drowned the frigate .....
  28. +1
    17 October 2019 19: 45
    Norway, you, most importantly, buy, and then for the purpose of environmental protection measures, you can not fly.
  29. +1
    17 October 2019 20: 13
    The new air defense complex "Greta" threatens Ф35 missiles with an ecological homing system, bypassing stealth technology))
  30. +2
    17 October 2019 21: 26
    Ecology pancake. Everything is normal with the planet, we are nothing more than fleas, imagining ourselves to be airships, which the planet can easily shake off if it wants.

    Everything is OK with the planet. This will be the people of Khan))
  31. -6
    17 October 2019 21: 36
    grief over what is called satiety.
    и
    isolation from the realities of the real world.
    people have forgotten. which is "earth". except Norway ...
  32. 0
    17 October 2019 22: 07
    Quote: Labrador
    I support completely and completely!
    Let's say a solid NO to smoky and smoking aggregates in NATO countries!
    laughing


    Norway they are, with their income from the sale of oil (what do they do with them, see help below),
    You can force Americans to supply the 35th with the exhaust of aromas of roses or violets!

    Information:
    "Norway
    In Europe, there are also successful examples of sharing wealth with citizens - this is Norway. Today, the oil and gas industry provides 20% of Norway's GDP, and the share of oil and gas export revenues in total export revenues is 45%. The state shares its revenues. Deductions from the oil profits earned are received on the personal account of every Norwegian. For each child, at birth, a bank account is opened, which receives at least 3 thousand dollars of income from income tax. In order to smooth out fluctuations in revenues from the sale of oil and gas, and most importantly, to finance the rising costs of paying old-age and disability pensions, the State Oil Fund (NGPF) was created in Norway. over the 21 years of the foundation’s existence, the Central Bank of Norway, managing it, earned 95 thousand dollars for every citizen of the country. In total, in the fund - 191 thousand dollars for each of 5,2 million Norwegians"


    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/59b27f45e86a9eaf5f0a9b56/skolko-dohodov-ot-prirodnyh-bogatstv-moglo-by-idti-v-karman-rossiian-5a17e1ca77d0e6a43815152a

    In principle, similar paradises were promised to us, too, one very good party in its election promises offered, but the adversaries prevented us!


    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5b168e52a815f120bbc24c05/chto-obescala-edinaia-rossiia-v-2002-godu-i-chto-poluchili-v-itoge-5c46d9c286e43c00ad24bcaf
  33. +1
    17 October 2019 22: 43
    Some kind of nonsense)) they bear generally forgot who the owner of chtoli?:;)
  34. 0
    18 October 2019 05: 26
    Let the Norwegians not go to the toilet. Emissions will be zero. However, gas and oil are pumped in the North Sea, do not go to your grandmother.
  35. 0
    18 October 2019 08: 04
    Killed))) cerebral infarction with rupture of the cranium)))