Turkish Army Leopard 2 falls victim to Kurdish rocket

The invasion of Turkish troops in the north-eastern part of Syria has already begun to turn around for them with the losses they suffer in armed clashes with the Kurdish formations that dominate here. At the same time, the test at the disposal of the Turkish military passes a test in combat conditions.

Moreover, in the realities of the modern digital space and information wars, shots of the defeat of the enemy quickly fly around the world. This was the case when the Russian troops were fighting against the Syrian terrorists, and the situation looked the same when the Saudi army invaded Yemen. However, if the equipment produced in the Russian Federation has shown its best sides, then the columns of wrecked cars in Riyadh are already traditionally featured in news tapes.

Judging by the video clips laid out by the Kurds, the Turks are quite capable of repeating the fate of the Saudis. This is facilitated by the relative uniformity of technology. In both countries, emphasis was placed on the acquisition of Western products. The main striking power of the land units of Riyadh is the park tanks M1A2 / A2S Abrams, Ankara - MBT Leopard 2A4, 1A4, 1A3. The victim of an anti-tank guided missile launched by the Kurds was precisely Leopard 2 in the video below.

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[Incvizitor]

All the same, Leo is poorly covered, they would have to hang some kind of additional protection on the side, at least the same sandbags.

[Graz]

it won’t help against the cumulative stream, on YouTube I watched as Ukrainian soldiers tested self-made cutting lattices from RPGs, so there was a sand embankment behind this lattice, the jet pierced it for several meters

[Incvizitor]

Then some kind of DZ will have to be welded or screens to be welded, in any case, something is needed or else they will burn them.

[Shurik70]

Unclear. There is a crowd of tanks. A shot is fired from the ATGM, one tank is set on fire.
AND - SILENCE ... Not a single shot in response. Yes, at least from heavy machine guns through suspicious bushes they would have gone if they had not noticed where the shot was from.
As for the protection by gratings from the cumulative jet - here is a good video

The cumulative grenade burns through the armored car through the inside

The cumulative grenade burns through the armored car through the inside

Submitted by Systema Serbia / System of Serbia Wednesday, September 18, 2019

[missuris]

in this video, too, jerseys, gratings can help from an RPG grenade, a grate can damage the grenade funnel itself when hit and partially splash a stream of copper. and this only works for heavy and thick armored vehicles.

and on leopards, yes, they need to attach half-meter composite ears on each side so that the birds do not pierce or put any kaz, the same arena cost only a couple of hundred thousand raccoons and intercepts budget birds

[Maki Avellevich]

Quote: Shurik70

Unclear. There is a crowd of tanks. A shot is fired from the ATGM, one tank is set on fire.
AND - SILENCE ... Not a single shot in response. Yes, at least from heavy machine guns through suspicious bushes they would have gone if they had not noticed where the shot was from.

yes, weird. when we attack armored vehicles, the first one who realized shouts "Argaz Ash"
(fire box) and everyone scorches around from everything that is.
you won’t get there, but you can frighten off

[Pecheneg]

Yes, without KAZ / DZ it’s kind of dumb.

[Incvizitor]

They themselves can’t do KAZ themselves, as far as I remember, it wasn’t even in the Altai, so I’ll have to ask the Russian Federation, or something simple for ourselves to cover up, although they didn’t even have their own DZ ...

[loki565]

KAZ they themselves can not, as far as I remember, it was not even in the Altai, so I’ll have to ask the Russian Federation

And on what technique did you see it in the Russian Federation, in combat conditions, the parade is not considered

[orionvitt]

Quote: loki565

you saw her in the Russian Federation, in combat conditions, the parade is not considered

UTB open. and do not worry. True crap a lot, but filter.

[loki565]

UTB open. and do not worry. True crap a lot, but filter.

I'm not talking about DZ, namely, active defense like an arena? Well, where did you see them? they are not even in Syria on the T90. although there they had to be delivered in the first place.

[orionvitt]

Yes video shaft.

[loki565]

Well, provide at least one.

[orionvitt]

Well, I didn’t find it in the search engine right away, but I dig deeper (you got me). But provide a video of a wrecked T-90 in Syria. but not the fault of the Arab crew.

[missuris]

the fact of the matter is that Soviet tanks were 1-2 million cheap, and in order not to raise the price by 200 thousand, nobody bought them from kaz. there is a radar.

[orionvitt]

That worry. Val. Did you forget the buttons on the keyboard? Or just contemplate?

[svp67]

Quote: Incvizitor

All the same, Leo is poorly covered, they would have to hang some kind of additional protection on the side, at least the same sandbags.

Honestly, I don’t understand anything. Again the side of the tower, but the Turks already suffered losses from this, that even there is no sense of self-preservation? If only the tracks in two layers were welded and then some kind of protection

[Incvizitor]

Many who have lost these leo, always burn the same Sauds, at least looking at them ...
And it’s okay, it was old rubbish of the 60s, which could only be sawed up, because these are their most modern tanks, there’s nothing to replace them with, they still have to fight and fight, but the Russian Federation is modernizing the 90s without relying on armature but on the Turks in the forehead what on the forehead.

[vitinka]

Manufacturer: Krauss-Maffei Wegmann
Unit cost 2A6: US$5.74 million (2007)[2]
Produced 1979–present
Tureckim versijam tanka 30+ let, nikakije eto ne 90 ije godi.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: vitinka

Tureckim versijam tanka 30+ let, nikakije eto ne 90 ije godi.

Leopard-2A4 of the Turkish army, this is 1985 the beginning of production.

[Sniper]

maybe the Kurds just don't know that "Leopard 2" is the best tank in the world? .. according to the Germans themselves.

[EDWARD]

mountains .. no wifi, and no internet.

[1970mk]

Sorry Turokv is by no means the newest Leopards .... our 72 are even tighter to break .....

[Incvizitor]

Ours showed themselves very well,

A single hit by an RPG or ATGM shell was already not enough to disable it. As a rule, at least 6-7 hits were required, and a record case was recorded when the tank withstood the hits of almost 20 shells. Dynamic protection systems worked exceptionally well.

if Leo had come under such shelling from all sides, there would have been a continuous cemetery.

[1970mk]

You stop raving! They have an old LEO! And about "20 hits" YouTube to help you, one ATTU and torches from the tower up to the 5th floor.

[EvilLion]

What new armor appeared outside the frontal projection? 30 or how much the board is there is, in principle, unprotected, but the T-72 just sometimes keeps the rollers on board, plus the thickness of the 80 board.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 1970mk

our 72 are even steeper torn .....

Just apply it wisely.

At the beginning of January 2000, during the fighting to liberate the city of Grozny, 1 tr of the battalion were assigned as reinforcement forces to assault detachments of motorized riflemen of the 506th Guards. msp. For two days of fighting in the area of ​​the railway depot, the tank with side No. 611 was hit three times by the Fagot ATGM and six times by RPG-7 grenades.
The hits occurred in the following parts of the tank.
ATGM - to the left under the tower (all):
- two - in the fuel tanks on the fenders under the tower, which during the fighting tankers always kept "dry". The tanks swelled and exploded, then the elements of the mounted explosive reactive armor on the tower worked, there was no armor penetration;
-one - on board under the tower; it is reflected by the activated element of the mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
Grenades from RPG-7:
-one - on top of the commander's hatch of the tower; a cumulative jet pierced the hatch and, without hitting the tank commander, went into the aft wall of the tower;
-two - to the left in the upper frontal part of the tower; neutralized by triggered elements of mounted dynamic protection;
-Three - on board the hull, 2 on the left and 1 on the right; all are reflected by dynamic protection elements mounted on rubber-metal side screens.
As a result, not a single hit led to the loss of combat capability of the tank.

© excerpt from an article by Gennady Zhilin published in the February 2006 issue of "Weapon's Word" magazine.

[Alexey RA]

However, it can be used and illiterate:

After successfully completing the task and after receiving a radio command to retreat, tank 623, which had previously rushed forward, began to retreat, not reversing, but turning around. Thus, he put his stern under fire from the enemy.
Over the next short period of time, the car received 3 hits of anti-tank grenades from RPG-7:
-first - into a metal barrel at the stern for additional fuel (in a combat situation on tanks, these barrels were always "dry"). The cumulative jet pierced the barrel through and through, but could not pierce the body of the tank.
-second - on board the hull; It was neutralized by elements of mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal screens;
-the third - in the lower part of the stern sheet, while the firing militant was "cut off" by a burst from a tank machine gun; the cumulative jet, having pierced the stern sheet, also pierced the lower part of the engine crankcase and "stalled" at the partition in the fighting compartment.
Nevertheless, the tank under its own power with a broken engine crankcase (!), Walked another 300 m at high speed and took refuge on a neighboring street in the location of federal units.

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

Quote: Sniper

maybe the Kurds just don't know that "Leopard 2" is the best tank in the world?

After Trump said that the Kurds did not help the Americans in Normandy, the Kurds learned that there was World War II.

[Sniper]

)) + so the Kurds also refused to help the amers? 7 during the Second World War?)

[Aristarkh Lyudvigovich]

US President Donald Trump commented on his decision not to support Kurdish forces in northeastern Syria. Trump recalled that the Kurds are fighting for their land and are pursuing their own interests. In addition, he mentioned that "the Kurds did not help the United States during World War II and during the landing in Normandy."

[Hog]

Leopard-2A4 is struck in the side projection using ATGM, strange.
Take the T-80BV or T-72B of the same years (even taking into account DZ) the same result awaits them, so do not tell here.

[EvilLion]

The skating rink can still take on something, it saves from RPGs at least sometimes.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Sniper

maybe the Kurds just don't know that "Leopard 2" is the best tank in the world? .. according to the Germans themselves.

So I'm interested, especially when they say that in Leopards the ammunition does not detonate))))

[protoss]

and what kind of gluing between contact and fire?

[neri73-r]

Quote: protoss

and what kind of gluing between contact and fire?

There is no gluing, there was a fire, and then the detonation of ammunition! It burns inside, it is not visible, but with a high temperature and quickly.

[protoss]

look carefully, different pieces are mounted there

[YOUR]

I wonder what kind of ATGM?

[Thrifty]

Yours was obviously beaten by ". Daddy Cornet". "- Competition"

[parkello]

judging by the sound of yes, or a contest or bassoon. they only have a difference in the diameter of the rocket itself. and PU is the same.

[Sasha_rulevoy]

The Americans supplied them with weapons. Possibly TOU or Javelin.

[Ural-4320]

Yes, no matter what banged from the ATGM. The guys came with a tripod, examined the enemy’s position, banged the equipment and continued shooting. A return fire is not visible. Moreover, one tank in the frame did not budge.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Ural-4320

A return fire is not visible.

But they will not get anyway, too far. They didn’t shoot from the position of the ATGM apparently.

Quote: Ural-4320

Moreover, one tank in the frame did not budge.

And what were they supposed to run like cockroaches in different directions? Due to the gluing on the video, the sequence of events is generally unclear.
Now, if these figures from "Javelin" shot, then they would have a chance to receive a reply.

[Ural-4320]

At the end of the video, a burning tank is shown, then the inspection moves to the left and we see a standing tank (the barrel looks to the left), another one goes from left to right in front of it. So a standing tank was visible in the same inspection of the terrain before the hit.
Regarding "were far away": does it mean that the optics of a video camera are enough to show us everything more beautifully, but the military does not have enough optics? Then it is no wonder that they rake out of the blue.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Ural-4320

About "were far away":

ATGM far, dude on a moped with a mobile close.

[Ural-4320]

I would not say that: 44 seconds - a shot, a loud sound on the right, 46 seconds - a missile in the frame, 54 seconds - a tank defeat.
I’m not a specialist in AT and I don’t know the speeds, but there are those who can figure out the distance from the shooter to the tank.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Ural-4320

I would not say that: 44 seconds - a shot, a loud sound on the right, 46 seconds - a missile in the frame, 54 seconds - a tank defeat.
I’m not a specialist in AT and I don’t know the speeds, but there are those who can figure out the distance from the shooter to the tank.

The average speed of the "Contest" is 208 m / s, we get, with a flight time of 10 seconds, a little more than 2 km
Tankers did not see anyone, definitely.

[Ural-4320]

However! And in the video you can’t say that there are 2 kilometers.

[Lexus]

"Burned out at work." Kurds of ATGMs were brought in from all over the world to fight the SAA. It will be interesting to see how the "Turkish" KAZ will show itself.

[Benk]

This is what Russian equipment there showed its best side?
Was there our armored vehicles?
Well, the Syrian tanks and other burned for two times. And our helicopters knocked out.
When you get tired rotten primitive agitation to print?

[PROXOR]

Do not thank.

[Benk]

Do not give thanks for what? For a single example? Or do you think that Leo and Abrams from each rocket flew off? All boast of their successes and gossip about the failures of opponents. Each case is bulged out as irrefutable evidence. Maybe you look and put it here when our tanks are burning? So, for objectivity?

[Andrey VOV]

and you don’t have a pan-and-leg hour?

[neri73-r]

Quote: Benk

Do not give thanks for what? For a single example? Or do you think that Leo and Abrams from each rocket flew off? All boast of their successes and gossip about the failures of opponents. Each case is bulged out as irrefutable evidence. Maybe you look and put it here when our tanks are burning? So, for objectivity?

And you proportionally take and judge the losses, by the number of fighting equipment! Compare the scale of our and their participation in wars, from here there are more videos about our vehicles than about them, but there are no videos about western tanks that they withstood hits unlike ours!

[Crash]

Scroll down below how Abrams can withstand hits from RPGs and ATGMs.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

Scroll down below how Abrams can withstand hits from RPGs and ATGMs.

Cutting a video of poor quality without confirming the result, what is there to watch? Part staged.

[Crash]

Well, OK.

Hitting the forehead and side without breaking. Tank tower tossed after hits. Still? Or enough?

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

Hitting the forehead and side without breaking. Tank tower tossed after hits. Still? Or enough?

The same thing, in the first video a landmine, in the second the tower itself rotates uncontrollably, control is interrupted, in short it is impossible to verify.

[Crash]

The tower in 22 tones rotates itself, there are no words.

[loki565]

What kind of gluing? in that video they shoot from the old RPG 7, it’s clear that the forehead of the tower will not pierce, the half of the RPG left the tank. Although Abrams vseravno already burned Molotov cocktail)))

[Ural-4320]

To stand in sight, to catch hits, to let the enemy come close to you and not to budge. I don’t understand something alone? Having received the first shot in the side there is no need to turn to face the shooter, so as not to substitute the sides?

[Crash]

In full video, they left on their own.

[loki565]

Ok, in the form of studio, or empty-handed)))

[Crash]

Let’s drop the email in PM - it’s on my computer. The full version was deleted from the network.

[Crash]

Abrams has the same thing and more than one.

[I'm a colonel]

Everything is interesting to me, but how do the local couch experts-patriots distinguish which tank survived and which one did not? The overwhelming part of the video - the rocket flew into the tank, exploded, period. Whether there was a penetration and if there was, then what the damage was is unknown. There are only a few videos where the tank really kicks from being hit by a rocket, and as a rule these are tanks of the "T" series, it is immediately clear that the tank is scribed by the fiery fountain from the tower, or even the tower flying off. How many videos have seen the banging Abrams, then this is either explosions on land mines, or the destruction of an abandoned and captured tank by an explosion from the inside, well, or either the detonation of a BC with the panels knocking

[neri73-r]

Already entered from another nickname! How do you have time, how much do they pay ?????????

[tarakan]

You have been shown the answer is yours.

[Crash]

To give out a single, recorded case of how the t-90 withstood the fire from the ATGM in the forehead, for something supernatural - well, that’s for yourself. Abrams does the same and no worse.

[loki565]

You created an account to write this comment ???)))

REGISTERED October 17, 2019 15:47 p.m.

sorry, two comments)))

COMMENTS 2

[Crash]

I could not stand the frank URA URA in the comments. Almost continuous one-sidedness and bias.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

I could not stand the frank URA URA in the comments. Almost continuous one-sidedness and bias.

Well, bye, you have a way to the saucepan sites, there is definitely objectivity in everything!

[Crash]

In that case, how do you differ from the "panheads" then? I understand that it is easier to be in your enticing little world and to drive away everyone who objectively says that you are wrong.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

who objectively says

And who appreciated that you are objective and others not?

[Crash]

At least the fact that I put the situation as T-90 and Abrams withstand in the forehead shelling from the ATGM for an ordinary ordinary case.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

At least the fact that I put the situation as T-90 and Abrams withstand in the forehead shelling from the ATGM for an ordinary ordinary case.

Ahhh, Western technology is either equal or better !!!! Of course, objectively.

[Crash]

AAAA, Russian technology is either equal or better !!!! Of course, objectively. Just mirrored.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

AAAA, Russian technology is either equal or better !!!! Of course, objectively. Just mirrored.

Come to us for army games, in particular for tank biathlon, let's see!

[Crash]

They have their own Biathlon - if they did not know. And secondly, do not jump off the topic.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

They have their own Biathlon - if they did not know. And secondly, do not jump off the topic.

They don’t have biathlon, they have something else - a set of fragmented exercises, since, secondly, I don’t jump from the topic, you shove me the same thing, I don’t see any reason to continue!

[Crash]

As you say, a set of exercises - it will be more useful in battle, rather than pokatushki in a circle with shooting. What else did you say? I then threw off a couple of links, but you have nothing at all, and you still accuse me of one-sidedness.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

and not pokatushki in a circle with shooting.

Yeah okay you Come ride, we'll see! Maybe you don’t know how to ride, or right away

Quote: Crash

more useful in battle will be

, what are you going to fight with us? Not tired of stepping on the same rake? Warriors of Light!

I then threw off a couple of links, but you have nothing at all, and you still accuse me of one-sidedness.

Yes, I’m too lazy to look, but I know you can’t convince you with anything, not for this you are here.

[Crash]

And where does it say that I was going to fight with someone? Simply say that there is nothing to say and it will be easier to accuse the subscriber that he is a Troll and to retire. Classics of the genre.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

And where does it say that I was going to fight with someone? Simply say that there is nothing to say and it will be easier to accuse the subscriber that he is a Troll and to retire. Classics of the genre.

Well, come? In pokatushki equipment is shown, its resource, capabilities! Here are the Chinese, they seemed to puff up and brought a sports tank, but they were unlucky, the tank was damp. Let’s see Merkava, Leo, a Frenchman and an American.
And about -

retreat

- you didn’t convince me, and you didn’t bring any real, tangible evidence, only dubious videos. Of all the sounded tanks, in reality, a lot, and in different geographic conditions, only teshki fought, the rest, so-so and video in the open spaces of the net, basically, how they burn. Yes, and something disappeared in the Western media after the events in Yemen and Syria, the brave ratings of the "best" tanks in the world.

[Crash]

And you didn’t bring anything at all, and the level of your gag has already shown knowledge in this matter.

[palatin64]

Your level reflects the spelling of the word opponent - in your transcription - "aponent". Is there any point in arguing with an illiterate?

[Reserve buildbat]

How much more necessary it is to drive through a car in battle than to shoot for speed and accuracy, would you ask? Otherwise, I'm not a tanker and I think that shooting faster and more accurately is more important than "beautifully" trampling a civilian passenger car weighing 1 ton with a tank weighing 60 tons

[Crash]

Trampling a car is all you know about their standards?

[Reserve buildbat]

It's one of the elements of that trashy show they show how "competition" and where the dillies screwed up. However, they are not capable of anything else.

[Crash]

The question is, what does Ukraine have to do with it?

[Reserve buildbat]

I just remembered their failures even at this show of teletubbies)))

[Crash]

Well, can you remember what standards were on this show? Or just one machine and limited?

[Reserve buildbat]

Well, can you remember what standards we have at the tank biathlon? By the way, not a single NATO crew, let alone tanks, dared to appear there. Although invited They understand that they only catch "splashes in their ears"

[Crash]

They did not come, because they are not interested.

[Reserve buildbat]

Of course Who is interested in shaming the whole world

[Crash]

Well, yes, the main thing is to believe. that the way it is.

[Reserve buildbat]

You fell out of the "censor" for an hour? And then you only see "great dill" and "veszmyrznamy". Just try to at least compare the exercises and requirements of our tank biathlon and NATO's "ballet for the flawed"

[Crash]

Will you be responsible for your words? Screen to the studio, where am I talking about Ukraine? So far, only here are you translating arrows on this topic.

[Crash]

Call them biathlon flawed, but at the same time not a single standard from their line was called. What are double standards?

[Reserve buildbat]

One called - moving cars
But you haven’t seen a single standard of tank biathlon from you
What are double standards?

[I'm a colonel]

Pacreot, so, purely for reference: it was not just a moving car, but the disposal of the buried charge, if you did not notice the explosion)

[Reserve buildbat]

Don't be rude, kid. I saw several crossings of different teams. Not a single explosion. Not a word about the charge. Just "moving". So go rave back to the ward.

[neri73-r]

Quote: I'm Colonel

Pacreot, so, purely for reference: it was not just a moving car, but the disposal of the buried charge, if you did not notice the explosion)

Change your nickname, "Colonel", maximum - a pre-conscript drug addict!

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: Crash

At least the fact that I put the situation as T-90 and Abrams withstand in the forehead shelling from the ATGM for an ordinary ordinary case.

None of the videos provided shows that after getting ATGM Abrams remains intact and the crew is alive. There is such a video with the T-90. This is objectivity. And do not compare ATGMs and RPGs, there are dozens of videos where T-72s get 3-4 hits from RPGs and do not stop the battle.

[Crash]

And why did you decide that Abrams, after hitting his forehead, was not left intact and the crew was not alive? Link to the studio where the T-72 can withstand 3-4 hits.

[Ramzaj99]

Anna News Channel, dozens of videos.

[Crash]

Here work and discard yourself.

[GibSoN]

None of the videos provided shows that after getting ATGM Abrams remains intact and the crew is alive. There is such a video with the T-90. This is objectivity.

How old are you dear? No offense, of course, because if a lot - it's bad, if very little - too .. Do you even imagine what the war in Syria is for the Russian Federation under current conditions? For example, who told you at all that the very only video of an ATGM hit (it is not exactly clear which one and what kind of ammunition) is not a means of propaganda, including for promoting the "business" of selling? Well, just as one of at least 10 versions, which at least take place?

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: GibSoN

is a means of propaganda

What does business and propaganda have to do with it? Or do you want to say that the video with the shooting of the T-90 was filmed by the Ministry of Defense ??)))) For the sake of promoting the "business" for the sale))) Then obviously see a doctor ...
I'm talking about the facts.
There is a clear video that after getting an ATGM on the T-90, it remains intact, the crew is selected on its own, the tank does not burn out and, according to eyewitnesses, returned to base on its own. ATGM obviously TOU, there is no need to be a special specialist.
I didn’t see such a video with abrams. So that after the hit the crew would clearly remain intact and the tank would not burn out.
Everything else does not matter.

[GibSoN]

And here is business and propaganda ??

Hmm .. Okay, let's go ...

Or do you want to say that the video shooting at the T-90 Min Defense shot?))))

Of course not! It is very difficult! And in general, this requires the technology of Hollywood! ))))) 1110) !!! 0))))! 1)!

I'm talking about the facts.

The facts, of those that are available, are the maximum for plankton .. According to the FACT, the facts can be said that they do not.

There is a clear video that after getting ATGM on the T-90, it remains intact, the crew is selected on its own, the tank does not burn and, according to eyewitnesses, returned to base on its own.

CLEAR videos in an enemy YouTube more than .. And now to the facts!

and according to eyewitnesses, under his own power, returned to base.

Where to watch a quick video with facts ?! Well, I mean, how did he get back to base? And then eyewitnesses, well, this ...

ATGM obviously TOU, there is no need to be a special specialist.

Yah?! I am not an expert. But at least I know 3 ways how to emit ATGM TOW .. If you really need to .. I can still find ways.

I didn’t see such a video with abrams. So that after the hit the crew would clearly remain intact and the tank would not burn out.

Well, I definitely can’t help with anything .. look better. There are such videos, and there are many of them.

Everything else does not matter.

Everything that I just answered really does not matter. In general, I definitely got excited. Have fun here further .. but without me.

[neri73-r]

Tovarischi from Israel and Ukraine, but enough for you, you can see a mile away - you won’t be able to sow doubt here !!! Do not give.

[GibSoN]

Tovarischi from Israel and Ukraine, but enough for you, you can see a mile away - you won’t be able to sow doubt here !!! Do not give.

Ooooh ... how bad it is when such a mess in my head! Take it higher! What is Israel? What is Ukraine ?! Here, Trump personally hangs out with his retinue!

[neri73-r]

Quote: GibSoN

Tovarischi from Israel and Ukraine, but enough for you, you can see a mile away - you won’t be able to sow doubt here !!! Do not give.

Ooooh ... how bad it is when such a mess in my head! Take it higher! What is Israel? What is Ukraine ?! Here, Trump personally hangs out with his retinue!

Trump Abramych, is that you? Or Ivanka with Jared? Oh, probably a true Ukrainian Zelensky? Of course, you don’t have porridge, you have matzo and tsimes !!!!!!!

[GibSoN]

Trump Abramych, is that you? Or Ivanka with Jared? Oh, probably a true Ukrainian Zelensky?

Hohlofob? What is the problem dude ?! Do you have a bad dream of koga imagine ukroamerkantsev ?! Well, I’m not a doctor for you, as it were .. Get lost ...

[neri73-r]

Quote: GibSoN

Trump Abramych, is that you? Or Ivanka with Jared? Oh, probably a true Ukrainian Zelensky?

Hohlofob? What is the problem dude ?! Do you have a bad dream of koga imagine ukroamerkantsev ?! Well, I’m not a doctor for you, as it were .. Get lost ...

Shaw, dear, did you get so excited?

Quote: GibSoN

Well, I’m not a doctor here, as it were ..

Ahhhh, you and the doctor, don’t tell my hooves (c) So where are you from, what hurt so much ?????

[GibSoN]

Shaw, dear, did you get so excited?

Ahhhh, you and the doctor, don’t tell my hooves (c) So where are you from, what hurt so much ?????

Phew ... you're not even a Natsik ... you're a dumb troll! Is free.

[neri73-r]

Quote: GibSoN

Phew ... you're not even a Natsik ... you're a dumb troll! Is free.

Che, a woman left? So you blame yourself, but don’t rush at people!

[neri73-r]

By the way, why are you all in the cons? There is no rank on the site. Probably often wrong?

[loki565]

Well, here the ATRA from the power of 2 episodes, and judging by the flight, this is an old bassoon. The remaining RPGs, or mines. But more modern anti-tank systems are harnessing and quite easy.

[Crash]

Now show me how the T-90 will withstand shelling from the ATGM to the airborne. All MBT side armor - CARTON.

[tarakan]

FUCKED, you can’t put the video yourself? Or just troll?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Crash

Now show me how the T-90 will withstand shelling from the ATGM to the airborne. All MBT side armor - CARTON.

Ahem ... will the T-72B fit?

In two days of fighting in the area of ​​the railway depot, the tank with side No. 611 was hit three times by the Fagot ATGM and six times by RPG-7 grenades.
The hits occurred in the following parts of the tank.
ATGM - to the left under the tower (all):
- two - in the fuel tanks on the fenders under the tower, which during the fighting tankers always kept "dry". The tanks swelled and exploded, then the elements of the mounted explosive reactive armor on the tower worked, there was no armor penetration;
-one - on board under the tower; reflected by a triggered element of the mounted dynamic protection mounted on rubber-metal side screens.

[Vanches]

Reflected dz, the board itself has nothing to do with it, you yourself quoted a quote, there was a release in the military acceptance where they stuck on the SUV, they fired, there was no penetration, but is this not the merit of the SUV ??? this is the result of the work of the dz, and a clean T72 board in 80mm of cumulus armor will pierce at the wildest angles, and then the tower in the bushes

[Kaw]

It should be borne in mind that Abrams, when breaking through the frontal armor, doesn’t necessarily catch fire, there he can simply kill the crew members with a cumulative stream, and the tank will apparently remain whole. But the T-64/72/80/90 when breaking through light up almost certainly, such a design feature.
And by the way, if Abrams caught fire, it doesn’t mean at all that the tank’s crew died, there simply knock-out panels could work, the same thing about Leopard-2.

[tarakan]

Litter, but when breaking through the frontal armor, what kind of expelling charges will work?

[Crash]

In more detail, what kind of knock-out charges are these? Or is it a typo?

[loki565]

Well, getting into the BC, the knockout panels worked, but no one got out of the tank, the crew died, then the Americans themselves recognized it. The closing partition vomited into the interior of the tower, the tank completely burned down.

[Crash]

This is why you got the idea that no one survived there? According to the instructions, it is forbidden to leave the car until the BC burns out. And proofs be kind about confirmation by the Americans, and not tell tales.

[loki565]

you? I will not, you are clearly a bot not responsible for your words))) pakeda

In full video, they left on their own.

Ok, in the form of studio, or empty-handed)))

[Crash]

He answered above - let's email and throw off the video, it is on my computer.

[Crash]

And secondly, your post was earlier than mine, therefore, as if to you and the first and throw off confirmation on your words. I do not refuse my own and am ready to dump in PM.

[loki565]

Give bot bot email? no thanks))) Pour on YouTube and post it here on the site, so that everyone would look and appreciate)))

[Vanches]

Quote: loki565

Well, getting into the BC, the knockout panels worked, but no one got out of the tank, the crew died, then the Americans themselves recognized it. The closing partition vomited into the interior of the tower, the tank completely burned down.

Where are the Loki proofs, we need proofs)

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Crash

This is why you got the idea that no one survived there? According to the instructions, it is forbidden to leave the car until the BC burns out.

Checked. With the detonation of the BC in Abrams, there are no survivors, and the tank itself cannot be repaired even at the factory - the hull is inflated. Outwardly, the tank is almost whole, but only in scrap metal.

[Crash]

Show me the detonation of BC. You obviously do not distinguish detonation from fire.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Crash

Show me the detonation of BC. You obviously do not distinguish detonation from fire.

There will be a fire, there will be detonation. Moreover, a fire in a confined space.
But detonation happens without a fire. In our case, for example, when a cumulative jet hits a cumulative-fragmentation shell in an ammunition shell.

[Cat man null]

Quote: Captain Pushkin

cumulative fragmentation shell

What kind of hybrid is this?

[loki565]

Yes, there is such an abrams.

Cumulative-fragmentation projectile (CBS, sometimes also called multifunctional projectile) - the main artillery ammunition that combines a pronounced cumulative and weaker high-explosive fragmentation effect.
Designed to defeat all types of targets characteristic of the barrel artillery: defeat armored vehicles and manpower of the enemy, the destruction of his fortifications. Included in the main ammunition of modern western tanks (Leopard-2, Abrams, Leclerc).

[Cat man null]

Quote: loki565

Yes there is one at Abrams

Thank you, I have not heard.

In fact, he is as fragmental as I am a ballerina. Brad, in short, and drank dough

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Cat Man Null

Quote: Captain Pushkin

cumulative fragmentation shell

What kind of hybrid is this?

In a cumulative projectile, only part of the energy of the explosion goes to the formation of the jet, and most of the same as for HE shells - in different directions normal to the surface. If you add a steel shirt, the fragments will go the same way as for the OB.
This allows you to reduce the range of tank ammunition - to exclude HE shell.
According to this principle, we have aviation NURS, for example, S-8, with which they fired at the city hall of Lugansk - the explosive is wrapped in a steel flat spring with notches.
Look at the footage of the explosions, as there the surrounding trees shattered fragments.

[loki565]

There will be a fire, there will be detonation.

Exactly
https://vk.com/video3526049_171160165

[Vanches]

Is that what they told you about Star? such words should be confirmed by proofs, in the end, in most tanks, the bk or part of it in the tower niche is stored with pop-up panels, and you say with such confidence that this does not work

[1970mk]

Why are you arguing? And which tank can withstand getting to the place where Abrams flew?

[Vanches]

https://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/1006298.html с 4 минуты видео про вышибные панели и потери

[GibSoN]

Verified

You are funny)) Who checked? You personally, or what ?! Do not invent fairy tales! Not funny! You already begin to bore, clowns!

[neri73-r]

Quote: Kaw

It should be borne in mind that Abrams, when breaking through the frontal armor, doesn’t necessarily catch fire, there he can simply kill the crew members with a cumulative stream, and the tank will apparently remain whole. But the T-64/72/80/90 when breaking through light up almost certainly, such a design feature.
And by the way, if Abrams caught fire, it doesn’t mean at all that the tank’s crew died, there simply knock-out panels could work, the same thing about Leopard-2.

Yeah, they say a lot to you in advertising, you know, blow-out panels ........ when the cumulative jet pierces the tower, they are unlikely to be alive there, and then everything will catch fire.

[Niki71]

The videos are beautiful)) but are there real ones? it’s very beautifully designed, not Photoshop, of course, but questions remain))

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Crash

this to myself. Abrams does the same and no worse.

Cutting hits ATGMs and RPG grenades in different tanks. And nowhere is there a fixation of the consequences.

[Every]

Quote: Crash

To give out a single, recorded case of how the t-90 withstood the fire from the ATGM in the forehead, for something supernatural - well, that’s for yourself. Abrams does the same and no worse.

Not a single video contains frames where the crew independently leaves a damaged tank.
If the tank, after being hit, has not collapsed, this does not mean that it remains combat ready.
It is possible that the crew, engine, transmission, i.e. the tank is out of order, albeit without undermining the ammunition.
Or can you guarantee that they all remain combat-ready?

[Vanches]

Imagine, he is such a tenacious reptile, this Abrams, it looks like the crew in him is not afraid to burn alive as in teshes, therefore he does not run after the first hit

[Crash]

Do not give thanks

[PROXOR]

This video has long been rebutted. VIDEO SETUP !!! The captured T-90 was put on board and removed all the protection elements.
Cheap stuffing.
I hope you will be filled with so many minuses that you will only have a BAN!

[Crash]

For easier companion, do not tear your vocal cords with so many !!!
If the video is staged, please be kind and drop the link to confirm your words, and not be unfounded. Or just send me to search for yourself?
It’s like I don’t give a damn about minuses, for that I see you are here and are for +.

[tatarin_ru]

If the video is staged, please be kind and drop the link to confirm your words

You write nonsense what video? staging? Who will give it to you.
But the one who followed the events remembers that there were two rulings
1) This (yours)
2) The crew didn’t close the hatch on the tower, after the charge got into the tank, the crew left the car, the bearded men seized it, wanted to sell it, apparently it didn’t grow together, they burned it, and removed it as it was knocked out.
Then the photos were (as set on fire).
More precisely on the website of the Military Map, but now it’s paid, I don’t have a subscription

[PROXOR]

I am sending you to search. Search.

[Crash]

I didn't expect anything else. You just want to shout "you are all lying" and give away what you want as valid.

[loki565]

This video has long been rebutted. VIDEO SETUP !!! The captured T-90 was put on board and removed all the protection elements.
Cheap stuffing.
I hope you will be filled with so many minuses that you will only have a BAN!

And what's the point of banning it? he only created an account today, the banned one will create another)))

REGISTERED October 17, 2019 15:47 p.m.

[Crash]

The logic is simple, I see - to ban everyone who does not scream Hurray, is Russian equipment the best in the world?

[PROXOR]

The logic is to weed out citizens who come here only for HYIP. You are a mess. You to the peacemaker.

[Crash]

You arrange HYIP, telling how the T-90 was staged staged, without providing any evidence to your words.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Crash

The logic is simple, I see - to ban everyone who does not scream Hurray, is Russian equipment the best in the world?

Under what nickname will you go out next time? "I am the Colonel"?

[Jack O'Neill]

In this vidos DZ worked normally. No wonder ...
There are pictures where the T-90A threw a tower, the field of how the ATGM flew into the side, which DZ is not covered.
And given the layout of the T-90 ...

[Crash]

What worked properly here? Smoke comes from the gunner’s hatch, the tower is turned so that the water’s fur is blocked, the commander’s hatch is closed, which means he is either wounded or killed. I have already seen photos of the T-90 tower throwing tower.

[Jack O'Neill]

What worked properly here? Smoke comes from the gunner’s hatch, the tower is turned so that the water’s fur is blocked, the commander’s hatch is closed, which means he is either wounded or killed. I have already seen photos of the T-90 tower throwing tower.

I'm talking about vidos PROXOR'a, where the cheekbone of the tower with the DZ tank TOW.

[Crash]

Well then sorry. If we talk about that video. That there most likely yes and there was a break. The armor in that zone is not fierce and thick. And there is simply nothing to explode there. KUM jet passed through the fighting compartment and the gunner got scared and made legs.

[Jack O'Neill]

Well then sorry. If we talk about that video. That there most likely yes and there was a break. The armor in that zone is not fierce and thick. And there is simply nothing to explode there. KUM jet passed through the fighting compartment and the gunner got scared and made legs.

Contact-5 could well have sunk out the old TOU. So everything is fine.

[Crash]

Judging by the fact that they decided not to show the affected side, there was a break.

[Kaw]

Upon penetration, the cumulative jet scatters sparks inside the tank, there the ammunition is shoved throughout the fighting compartment, they light up from the slightest spark.

[Crash]

Kum jet can fly through the entire fighting compartment and not touch anything.

[Kaw]

The cumulative jet ignites inside everything flammable.

[Jack O'Neill]

Judging by the fact that they decided not to show the affected board, there was a break

Yes, there could have been a break. Fortunately, there is nothing to explode in the tower.
But there is no fact of breaking through, and vice versa. Fortune telling, simply put.

[PROXOR]

In recent years, more turrets have been thrown by LEO than the T-90. Although the T-90 is already very actively fighting in Syria.

[Nastia makarova]

trolls as always here

[signifera]

I agree, some kind of hat-writing article. Our equipment is undoubtedly excellent, but no one has yet left the ATGM in the stationary state. Only with luck or miss the operator. And which tanks did we bring, something very interesting? Steeper than the old T-72s, the CAA does not. And they burn not bad, especially when the Syrians roll them out onto the hills and consider the raven or whoever they have ...

[loki565]

As lucky, it can withstand 62, at least the crew alive the tank did not explode, did not catch fire.

[neri73-r]

"Brezhnev's eyebrows" know their business!

[Kaw]

Just in the T-62 ammunition in metal shells, so they are not so easy to set fire to. Vryatlya these screens can protect against chicks.

[neri73-r]

Quote: Signifer

Steeper than the old T-72s, the CAA does not.

Ok, they have T-90s!

[tatarin_ru]

Steeper than the old T-72 CAA no

Well hello.
T-90 of different generations

[rocket757]

Stripes, and many other weapons of different kinds, were trained there!
The ground operation for the Turks will not be an easy walk when they reach the borders of the Kurdish enclave, to their settlements!

[AVA77]

Well, then, the tank could be dug up, and it looms in the open area like a member on the forehead. The benefit of plowing a trench and a tractor with a bucket is possible.

[PROXOR]

Our tanks, in my opinion, have a dump in the front (let the experts correct me). He can dig out for himself.

[loki565]

Rumor has it))) a turret from a Turkish leopard is already at a training ground in Russia, all ragged from various weapons.

[Nastia makarova]

why do we need a tower ???

[loki565]

Why, check the tank’s armor of a friend’s likely mmmm)))) From what angle, distance, with what projectile, ATGM, RPG it makes its way.
So different technique is tested

[Nastia makarova]

You think we didn’t have a tower?

[loki565]

You think we didn’t have a tower?

Leopard Towers 2? I wonder where?

[Kaw]

The Turks have tanks of the 80s model.

[KVU-NSVD]

And what is surprising? Any tank can be burned like a candle, especially a single one, especially without cover and especially from an ambush. And no bells and whistles, either composite, dynamic or active, will save him. In addition, the Kurds from their cash ATGM can create a museum with the presence in the exhibition of samples from Baby to Javelin ...

[Rusfaner]

And nothing to do with "Leopard" (Abrams, T-90, etc.). People make technology a weapon of victory.

[Altai72]

Of the 30000 weapons trucks handed over to the Kurds by the Americans, 5000 are already in the hands of the Turks.

[Nastia makarova]

30 thousand? Part of the weapons of the Syrians

[Jack O'Neill]

However, if the equipment produced in the Russian Federation showed its best sides, the columns of wrecked cars of Riyadh have traditionally been featured in news feeds.

Vidos on YouTube, where the T-72 throw towers in Syria - plenty. I would not say that they showed their best side.
But this applies for the most part to the T-72, for obvious reasons.
But BMP-1, oddly enough, in Syria showed themselves very well. The T-62 is not bad at all either.
And Leo 2A4, the end of 80's, which is used as illiterate as the T-72 Syrians ... Well, that’s for yourself.
So the tanks are quite comparable, if we are talking about the T-72 with combined armor, and not an export version. Although Leo burst too spectacularly (hi non-isolated BC in BO)
It's funny why, when they burn the same Leo 2A4 from an ATGM into the side, they scream almost 2A7 +?)

This is facilitated by the relative uniformity of technology. In both countries, emphasis was placed on the acquisition of Western products.

What? ..
Author, what are you?) if Western technology, then this is bad, but if Soviet / Russian, is it good?
What is the author hinting at?))
By the way, recently T-90A burned. Yeah, ATGM flew into the side. Perhaps the uniformity is to blame for everything?)
I understand that I want to kick the western school, but it looks very mediocre and does not paint the author.

The main striking power of the land units of Riyadh is the fleet of tanks M1A2 / A2S Abrams, Ankara - MBT Leopard 2A4, 1A4, 1A3.

The survival rate of the Abramovich crew is an order of magnitude higher than, for example, in the same T-72. Moreover, the Abramovichs have shown this many times. The last shot down by Abromovich of the Saudis was burned by the Kurds. The crew after the arrival of the ATGM made sneakers. The technique was most likely on the move.
But 2А4 and 1А * - martyrs, due to the location of the BC in the BO. Remove from 2A4 BC from BO, leaving only in the stern of the tower, then the survival of the crew will immediately increase.
For us, for obvious reasons, this is unrealistic to do, unfortunately.

The victim of the anti-tank guided missile launched by the Kurds was precisely the Leopard 2 in the video below.

Leo is not visible there. Rather, it would be TIFV. But this is definitely not accurate, because the quality is killed and it is very difficult to distinguish between them. But it seems to me that it was a BMP - TIFV ..

[Crash]

They painted it in vain, the local audience cannot stand it when they criticize Russian equipment. Here, most of them don’t know the device of Russian technology, for example, they think that in the T-90M in the stern there is a second automatic loader. But for that, I am sure that everything Western is rubbish.

[Jack O'Neill]

They painted it in vain, the local audience cannot stand it when they criticize Russian equipment. Here, most of them don’t know the device of Russian technology, for example, they think that in the T-90M in the stern there is a second automatic loader. But for that, I am sure that everything Western is rubbish.

Moreover, he achieves what adult men think so.

[Crash]

Yes Yes). Youth are more adequate.

[ROSS_51]

When will it finish? What are you doing here for a booth? Confused with the tundra forum, an expert on computer games?

[Jack O'Neill]

When will it finish? What are you doing here for a booth? Confused with the tundra forum, an expert on computer games?

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[Doliva63]

Quote: Crash

They painted it in vain, the local audience cannot stand it when they criticize Russian equipment. Here, most of them don’t know the device of Russian technology, for example, they think that in the T-90M in the stern there is a second automatic loader. But for that, I am sure that everything Western is rubbish.

Why are you lying? The second machine in the feed of the T-90MS, not M! Damn, experts.

[Crash]

In the T-90 MS it is not the same.
Mat part teach comrade.

https://topwar.ru/6961-voronezh-vp-postroyat-v-gabale.html

[Doliva63]

Quote: Crash

In the T-90 MS it is not the same.
Mat part teach comrade.

https://topwar.ru/6961-voronezh-vp-postroyat-v-gabale.html

Materiel is for fans of Merkava or Abrams, and I am a supporter of our, condo, Teshek. It is said - 2 machines, then 2! And, by the way, they are not there 2. There are also machines with the driver and operator. The commander, if the ensign, only a gun, alas (.

[Crash]

On the fence the same word with three letters is written. And the fact that you are a supporter of Teshek, the second automatic loader will not appear there. So they would immediately say that you believe only in fairy tales, not facts.

[neri73-r]

And when will you register a new nickname?

[Crash]

And where did I break that?

[neri73-r]

Nothing but interesting

[Doliva63]

Quote: Crash

On the fence the same word with three letters is written. And the fact that you are a supporter of Teshek, the second automatic loader will not appear there. So they would immediately say that you believe only in fairy tales, not facts.

My friend, I just trolled you a little, and you "fell for". I’m a tanker by training, if anything

[PROXOR]

Chita and quietly in touch:

Quote: Jack O'Neill

Vidos on YouTube, where the T-72 throw towers in Syria - plenty. I would not say that they showed their best side.

And it’s visible. All T-72 ki lined in Syria were the first T-72A. There is armor against old cumulative shells and sub-caliber. There was not even a mention of any DZ and KAZ there, and the armor itself was many times simpler than that of the same T-72B.

Quote: Jack O'Neill

The survival rate of the Abramovich crew is an order of magnitude higher than, for example, in the same T-72. Moreover, the Abramovichs have shown this many times. The last shot down by Abromovich of the Saudis was burned by the Kurds. The crew after the arrival of the ATGM made sneakers. The technique was most likely on the move.

The Abramovichs have not yet gotten into more than one fight like 62 and 72 in Syria. They are just like tank destroyers peeling from far away. The comparison is just ANYWHERE.

[Crash]

And with what tanks did the t-72 get involved in a fight? And throwing a claim that Abrams shoots from far away is like throwing a sniper to the front.

[Jack O'Neill]

And with what tanks did the t-72 get involved in a fight? And throwing a claim that Abrams shoots from far away is like throwing a sniper to the front.

The following comment will probably be like: "The Americans are cowards, and they won't be able to fight without guns on tanks."

[PROXOR]

Abramovichs do not participate in hostilities in the city, since T-72s are participating. Firstly, this is not a very agile cabinet; secondly, IRAQ has clearly shown that Abramovich DOES NOT LIVE in the city.

[Vanches]

Your words differ somehow: Abrams do not participate in battles in the city, then Abrams do not live in the city, what ???? It’s as if the Abramovich’s in the cities were mostly beaten, and by no means our RPGs and ATGMs are the best means against Abrams, they were mainly undermined by mines and land mines

[Jack O'Neill]

And it’s visible. All T-72 ki lined in Syria were the first T-72A. There is armor against old cumulative shells and sub-caliber. There was not even a mention of any DZ and KAZ there, and the armor itself was many times simpler than that of the same T-72B.

We read inattentively.

The Abramovichs have not yet gotten into more than one fight like 62 and 72 in Syria. They are just like tank destroyers peeling from far away. The comparison is just ANYWHERE.

Yes, that’s the last major tank battle of the 20 century. Where the T-72 were, and much more.
Not that T-62, which the Majahideen drove. This is not for you to fight with some organized armies ...
And so what a bad Abrams, shoots from far away. Ay ah ah .... I'll go by the way claim to throw our motorized rifle. And then what kind of people, they shoot from far away with machine guns, not so badly, in fists, right?
What the hell?..

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

That is why a tank without a dynamic and in addition to it active defense complex is generally not worth using in battle.

Only money and people are rude to nothing.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

That is why a tank without a dynamic and in addition to it active defense complex is generally not worth using in battle.

Only money and people are rude to nothing.

Without support / cover by infantry and from the air, DZ and KAZ are not a panacea. Yes, there would still be engineering support and competent tactical use of tanks - then, perhaps, neither DZ nor KAZ would be needed.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Without support / cover by infantry and from the air, DZ and KAZ are not a panacea. Yes, there would still be engineering support and competent tactical use of tanks - then, perhaps, neither DZ nor KAZ would be needed.

How will infantry or aircraft or even a trench for a tank save you from an ATGM ambushed from a distance of 2-4 km ?!

No way !!!

Only DZ and KAZ salvation for the tank, not 100%, but the chances are significantly higher.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Without support / cover by infantry and from the air, DZ and KAZ are not a panacea. Yes, there would still be engineering support and competent tactical use of tanks - then, perhaps, neither DZ nor KAZ would be needed.

How will infantry or aircraft or even a trench for a tank save you from an ATGM ambushed from a distance of 2-4 km ?!

No way !!!

Only DZ and KAZ salvation for the tank, not 100%, but the chances are significantly higher.

Have you ever read a BUSV thread? It is painted there. If briefly. If in detail and in detail, then I do not take less than half a liter per hour. With appetizer, kaneshna

[Arturov]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Only money and people are rude to nothing

so economists have calculated everything, including the cost of living of a soldier ...

[Jack O'Neill]

PS there are plenty of Turkish Leo photos, and in the header is a screen from ARMA.

[Esaul]

You can immediately see a completely different level of culture of the shooting, not a single exclamation "Alla, I'm going to the bar."

[demo]

The warriors are bad.
Standing mittens yelling.
Here is the result.
But behind the scenes a voice - Allahu akbar - is that - the Kurds?
It seems to me that no.

[Parvis rasulov]

These Kurds do not have their own language as such, although many Kurds speak Persian, Turkish or Azerbaijani. Those on the video speak a mixture of Persian and Turkish and they are Muslim Sunnis and shouts Allah the Great, they also scream

[Yrec]

ATGM was not on the tank but on a tilt car with BC.

[Crash]

In addition to jokes, the silhouette does not look like a LEO.

[Ryaruav]

scared to be a tanker

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ryaruav

scared to be a tanker

The comrade was the deputy technotech of TB; in the first Chechen one, she lost her mind. It is scary, of course, when the lives of people are controlled by such as the drunk Yoltsyn and their henchmen.

[SashOK]

Oh, that's what I was waiting for)
started)
flew shit on the fan

[Klingon]

Quote: Incvizitor

All the same, Leo is poorly covered, they would have to hang some kind of additional protection on the side, at least the same sandbags.

The Germans in Leo's armor traditionally step on the well-known rake and focus only on multi-layer armor, neglecting additional reactive armor, and the Turks stupidly use the tank "out of the box"

[Parvis rasulov]

In the video, if you translate the words of the commentator, he says that they only destroyed both tanks and two armored personnel carriers.
Later, from 1.55 minutes, it lists all the equipment that moves in the column and then adds that they destroyed several vehicles and armored personnel carriers and a lot of infantry

[Parvis rasulov]

About the Soviet tanks in Afghanistan.
When the introduction of troops in 1979 in Afghanistan, the first tanks to enter were not T-55 or T62 tanks, but the most modern T-64A tanks of the 5th Guards Division at that time, and they became the very first Soviet tanks to suffer losses, several tanks T-64A were destroyed from RPG-7 and RPG 2 and this was a shock to the tankers. Immediately after this incident, all T-64 tanks were withdrawn from Afghanistan.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Parvis Rasulov

several T-64A tanks were destroyed from RPG-7 and RPG 2 and this was a shock for tankers

For me, the shock was an article (most likely in "Equipment and Armament") with an analysis of the combat damage of the T-64 in the Donbass. Allegedly, cases of penetration of the side armor by fragments of 120mm mines were recorded. If that's true, what were the hulls made of? From armor without heat treatment or even from boiler steel?

[Atenon]

Could you give a number or a link to the magazine, very interested. Thank you

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: AtenON

Could you give a number or a link to the magazine, very interested. Thank you

There will be time, I’ll look. It should be somewhere in the years 2014-2016, they are lying around me randomly.

[Parvis rasulov]

My father told me that when the partisans were called up to enter the division, the first problems started, the first all the called up partisans were trained in the T55 and T62 tanks and many of them saw the T64 tanks for the first time, the second problem started when half of the T64A tanks started to break when the march, the problem with truck inflation on tanks and engine overheating in winter conditions was especially severe, he also said that the oil supply system was breaking very quickly and finally there weren’t enough lubricants and that for 100 kilometers All the oil reserves in the division were used up and this caused tanks to be abandoned along the road between Kushka and Herat.
Then his father said that they fought against the Afghan army and not against the Mujahideen, finally he said that the word Mujahideen and Dushman appeared in 1981 and before that they fought against the Afghan army where the commanders and officers were Partchists

[Atenon]

The author would not be dishonored and removed the screenshot from Arm

[shadow]

Quote: Shurik70

Unclear. There is a crowd of tanks. A shot is fired from the ATGM, one tank is set on fire.
AND - SILENCE ... Not a single shot in response. Yes, at least from heavy machine guns through suspicious bushes they would have gone if they had not noticed where the shot was from.
As for the protection by gratings from the cumulative jet - here is a good video

The cumulative grenade burns through the armored car through the inside

The cumulative grenade burns through the armored car through the inside

Submitted by Systema Serbia / System of Serbia Wednesday, September 18, 2019

ATGM firing range of 3,5 km, which machine gun? Not every tank can shoot at such a distance.

[Alex 1970]

And where is the video?

[Alexex]

Quote: Ural-4320

To stand in sight, to catch hits, to let the enemy come close to you and not to budge. I don’t understand something alone? Having received the first shot in the side there is no need to turn to face the shooter, so as not to substitute the sides?

You’ll turn to one ... you’ll probably substitute the other ... they thought so, the city is all the same ...

[Adimius38]

Well, by no means the latest version of the leopard 2 among the Turks, and you can knock a tank from an ATGM into the barrel and the T-72bz and the vaunted T-90, it’s all as lucky. To date, there is a version of the Leopard 2A7, it is already a completely different tank as a whole capable of participating in urban battles where the risk of getting a salvo from the anti-tank system from any window is most likely.