Russian-speaking conscripts of the Estonian army will be forced to learn Estonian

The Estonian Armed Forces are introducing compulsory Estonian language studies for Russian-speaking conscripts. This was announced by the head of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the country Major Arvo Jõesalu.

Russian-speaking conscripts who do not speak the state language will be forced to study Estonian. As explained in the Estonian military department, this is done to "help integrate into Estonian society and strengthen the position of Russian-speaking military personnel in the army." Classes will be held twice a week in free time from service.

Compulsory courses are also aimed at ensuring that soldiers better understand military affairs, as well as integrate into society. Some soldiers are faced with problems, as their training, including driving training, is in Estonian

- said the head of the press service, Major Arvo Jõesalu.

It should be noted that Estonian language courses for Russian-speaking military personnel in the Estonian Self-Defense Forces (Estonian Army) have existed for 3 years and until now they have been completely voluntary. Now, on a new initiative, this year, 310 contract soldiers and approximately 3,5 thousands of conscripts should go through compulsory learning of the Estonian language.

Earlier it was reported that in the Estonian army there is an acute problem with Russian-speaking military personnel who do not want to learn Estonian. For example, in February this year, it was stated that in the Viru Infantry Battalion, where most of the servicemen are Russian-speaking, soldiers refused to speak Estonian even with officers.

When the Estonian anthem is played, they sing loudly Russian. They refuse to speak Estonian both with colleagues and officers. They also terrorize Estonian guys who are outnumbered there.

- said the leader of the Conservative People's Party of Estonia Martin Helme in Parliament.

Comments

[Thrifty]

Let better Estonians totally learn the great and mighty Russian language! And the soldiers will speak Russian, and they will teach and take an exam in the Russian language

[Vol4ara]

Quote: Thrifty

Let better Estonians totally learn the great and mighty Russian language! And the soldiers will speak Russian, and they will teach and take an exam in the Russian language

At us in VO great and powerful not everyone knows. Such errors sometimes happen ... What kind of Estonia are you talking about?

[Barmaleyka]

Quote: Vol4ara

Such errors sometimes happen ...

this is the main argument in the argument

[Tatyana]

Quote: Vol4ara

At us in VO great and powerful not everyone knows. Such errors sometimes happen ... What kind of Estonia are you talking about?

Just a blind typing method few people own. And then not everyone has time to correct grammatical errors when they are noticed after sending a comment, since the time for making changes has already been reached.

And so, of course, the Russian language is grammatically and punctually complex, but also very richly expressive! With a lot of shades and meaning!

[Tatyana]

And I would not refuse to learn Estonian in the army. It would always be useful for the Estonian language to eavesdrop on what Estonians say about the Russians, that they are hostilely preparing against the Russians and how to counter this.

[Avior]

There is still such evil as T9, if you type from a smartphone, do what it wants ....

[A good one]

It is clear, Estonia aside, that further in terms of education.

[yehat]

it’s about conceit. it’s always nice to know that there is someone who knows worse than the laps.

[Lexus]

Russian-speaking conscripts of the Estonian army will be forced to learn Estonian

To make Russian-speaking people look like Estonians, they will have to hang weights from their tongues and limbs.

[Aerodrome]

I somehow felt sluggish about Estonia, but yesterday there was a memory of Motorola, did anyone remember Arseny? remembered?

[A good one]

Greetings, I’ve remembered now.

[210ox]

I am surprised that there really were people who remembered kinship there .. No matter how many disgusting values ​​were promoted for us.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Let better Estonians totally learn the great and mighty Russian language!

Before the collapse, everyone spoke and many even spoke well, but now the youth no longer knows, I communicate with them in English, well, the old people remember them.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: tihonmarine

Before the collapse, everyone said, and many even good

But already in 1988 they actively pretended that we do not corroborate ruuuuski.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alexey RA

But already in 1988 they were actively pretending that we were not ruffling ruuuuski.

You are right, it has already begun, but all the same, in a referendum all-Union, Estonia voted to remain part of the USSR. This is 1991 year, the year of collapse put an end to.

[210ox]

In 1983, two Estonians came to serve us. In Russian, not a foot in the tooth. The truth is quickly learned .. Or remembered ..

[Sergey39]

Let the NATO occupiers be better trained.

[bogart047]

are Estonians in the minority? It's funny Well, if they, Russian-speaking draftees, do not want to move to another country, then let them suffer. It is their choice to be second-class citizens.

[Thrifty]

Russians in any country in the world remain Russian, do not confuse them with Russian speakers. And in Estonia, the Russians are our military reserve in the camp of the enemy. ..

[bogart047]

so re-read again what I wrote. There is not a word about the Russians.

[Thrifty]

Since they are singing Russian and not Estonian anthem, they are already Russian.

[Pete mitchell]

I will say seditious thought

Quote: Thrifty

in Estonia, Russians are our military reserve in the camp of the enemy. ..

, in this situation, it is necessary to motivate them to carefully study the Estonian language: they will one day return to civilian life, begin to pursue a career, and someone will go into politics or administratively. Someday they will promote the necessary ideas .. Constant whining that forced to learn the language need to be dropped: it's time to learn to play "in the long"... There is something to spy on the sworn "friends" - the ideas of Bzezhinsky are slowly, but often realized, reaching the set goals

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Thrifty

Russians in any country in the world remain Russian, do not confuse them with Russian speakers.

You know it right. As a Russian born in England once told me in England, “You must once and for all remember and decide for yourself whether you are with them, or you are with us. If in dreams, you must remember your culture, go to the Russian church, observe all the fasts and everything that your ancestors taught you, remember their graves and churchyards, or you must be with them. " But let's say in Estonia all of us who speak Russian are in the majority a handful in a place regardless of nationality, even the Kurds and Sudanese are drawn to us. You just have to live peacefully in good neighborliness with everyone, then there will be no ethnic strife in the country, it is only among politicians, what we have, what others.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bogart047

Well, if they, Russian-speaking draftees, do not want to move to another country, then let them suffer.

Well, where should they go, they were born in Estonia, their parents and grandfathers live here. Or maybe you will accept them with open arms? No. Well, if you do not want to serve in the army, take the passport "Not a citizen"

[210ox]

Yes, they don’t want to. And then are they really waiting for them?

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Another stupidity on their part, if more than half of the population does not even know him, many of whom are the indigenous people of this country.

[Cut Samshitov]

Another stupidity on their part, if more than half of the population does not even know him, many of whom are the indigenous people of this country.

I was in Tallinn for 2 months. back. Most residents KNOW Estonian. Decent work cannot be found without him. An exception -
- Narva.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Quote: Cut Samshitov

Another stupidity on their part, if more than half of the population does not even know him, many of whom are the indigenous people of this country.

I was in Tallinn for 2 months. back. Most residents KNOW Estonian. Decent work cannot be found without him. An exception -
- Narva.

Just something, all the same, they speak Russian, they see him so know.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Sawing Boxwood

Most residents KNOW Estonian

There is a list of professions where you need a certificate of knowledge of the Estonian language. And you can find a job, but good with Estonian knowledge, I don’t like going to Finnish, Swedish

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Vlad, and there are many of those people who know their language well.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: SERGEY SERGEEVICS

Vlad, and there are many of those people who know their language well.

Our youth knows quite well in Tallinn, because you need to get a normal job with your head, if you don’t want to go to a construction site, to a road or a factory, you can go to Finnish (but knowing English, although you don’t need it for builders). At school, they teach well. In narva there are even signs in shops and advertisements in Russian and Estonian. There is no segregation by nationality, you know the language, you know the work ahead. Well, as everywhere nepotism in Russian companies has its own kin, in Estonian its own, the rest is left for the people. The common people have no time to think and talk about politics; the family wants to eat work, work.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

Everything is clear then.

[Mouse]

it would be much easier ... to teach all the rest to Russian obscene ...

[A good one]

Let them start with Kaka and Byak.

[Mouse]

well ... from the nursery program ... from the basics so to speak ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mouse

to teach all the rest Russian obscene ..

Everyone knows, even in Africa.

[Mouse]

Quote: tihonmarine

Everyone knows, even in Africa.

I suspected that it was so! but even in Russian obscene there are nuances ...

[A good one]

For Africans, it sounds like a lullaby, like "go fse fick".

[tihonmarine]

When the Estonian anthem is played, they sing loudly Russian. They refuse to speak Estonian both with colleagues and officers.

Well, what do they want if there are 95% Russian speakers in the North East? They still can not do that "The flag is Estonian, but Putin is our president." Although only Estonian citizens are recruited into the army, non-citizens do not serve.

[Ryaruav]

who really wanted to go to Russia and as I heard the slogan (thanks to the Bolsheviks and everyone who continues the genocide against the Russian people) we will not take the suitcase station Russia in our homeland, but in Europe there the standard of living above I personally saw the difference between Ivan-city and Zston it seemed that Narva was one Soviet state, but the difference in providing the abyss itself lived in Chisinau and when I saw not Peter where it was not Moscow that studied, but Smolensk all this can and should be called the genocide of the Russian people, an attempt to solder and stupid us, so that's what I went for a long time, Russians from the Baltic states in their historical homeland they didn’t want such a life, I understand them somewhere but I want to say there is no one to save, they are not our people who wanted to already in Russia

[Mavrikiy]

Russian-speaking conscripts of the Estonian army will be forced to learn Estonian

And if ....., then rods or without sweets? Yes, tighten the nuts.

They also terrorize Estonian guys

When will they terrorize the government?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And if ....., then rods or without sweets?

When you receive a passport of an Estonian citizen, you are submitting a document for the language category, already at school you receive this document. I’m LBG, I don’t have to go to the army. So what’s wrong, sit in the classroom and teach warmly, and the rest will run on the parade ground and sprinkle sand on the paths.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Mavrikiy

And if ....., then rods or without sweets?

When you receive a passport of an Estonian citizen, you are submitting a document for the language category, already at school you receive this document. I’m LBG, I don’t have to go to the army. So what’s wrong, sit in the classroom and teach warmly, and the rest will run on the parade ground and sprinkle sand on the paths.

Read attentively:

Classes will be held twice a week in free time from service.

In private.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Classes will be held twice a week in free time from service.

Did you have it? They will find work in any army, or not so in the Russian army. The Soviet army then plowed up to the end. Let them learn, it’s free, but you’ll go to work, you will go for 400 euros a month in due time, this is not enough, so study will go a penny. And you want to live with a good salary.

[surovts.valery]

[quoteRussian-speaking conscript soldiers who do not speak the state language will be forced to study Estonian.] [/ quote]
And if they refuse? Will they put it on the "lip"? Or will layoffs be deprived?
Well, it doesn’t work for them to remake the Russians into Europeans, all sorts of Chukhons, Zhmud and other gay people.

[Zeev Zeev]

So if these people want to speak Russian so much, why do they live in Estonia and not in Russia? No money for a ticket to Ivangorod?

[reservist]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

So if these people so want to speak Russian, why do they live in Estonia,

they were born there ...

but not in Russia? No money for a ticket to Ivangorod?

I don’t know who said

"where we are - there is Russia"

[Zeev Zeev]

Well, if they were born there, all the more they should know the language of their country. And if this country is not considered their own, then let them go to the one that they own.
"Where are we, there is Russia" what is it like? Like Arabs or Turks in Europe? I live in the country, I get money, medicine, education, but I don’t consider my own?

[reservist]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

And if this country is not considered their own, then let them go to the one that they own.

Here Crimeans also said so ...

In the same Canada / Singapore, they acted wiser, officially there is more than one state language, but in reality the language is taught there to "climb" the "social ladder", and not because the local deputies decided so ...

[Zeev Zeev]

In the same Canada and Singapore, the situation is different due to the lack of a nation-forming nation. No need to give examples of these states.

[reservist]

those. the fact that in Singapore two-thirds of the Chinese do not make them a state-forming nation, and the fact that in Estonia two-thirds of the Estonians do?

[Zeev Zeev]

The state-forming nation in Singapore were the British who created this city.

[reservist]

Well, in this case, for the Baltic states it will be Germans, Swedes and Russians ...

PS and Singapore after the British was a third world country ...

[Zeev Zeev]

Yes of course

[reservist]

Do you want to say that under the British, Singapore could be compared with London?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

So if these people want to speak Russian so much, why do they live in Estonia and not in Russia?

And in your country, too, all the Arabs left Israel, or what? Or don’t you have enough money for a donkey?

[Zeev Zeev]

Most Arabs know Hebrew. And those who do not know, do not advance anywhere further than a car repair shop or a small shop. In addition, those who serve in the army (and we have many who join the army without knowing the language) learn it without fail.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

Most Arabs know Hebrew. And those who don’t know, do not go anywhere further than a car repair shop or shop

And in Estonia as well.

[Zeev Zeev]

If they join the army, they must know the language. Do not want? Do not go to the army.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zeev Zeev

If they join the army, they must know the language.

Only citizens go to the army, in order to become a citizen go to school (compulsory language) hand over the language to the commission, get a passport, what a problem, they are not, but for deepening you can study in the army on courses and for free, learn you need to work And they study, my son's friend walks and is happy. As well as your good command of the language you will get a normal job. Moreover, there is no segregation of citizens in Estonia. The passport contains only "Estonian citizen", no nationality. And there are not citizens, those do not go to the army. Just like 3 kopecks.

[avib]

Israeli Arabs know Hebrew, teach it at school. I have not met an Israeli Arab who does not know Hebrew. Maybe the fourth wife of some imam from a slaughtered village who did not study at school and never left the village never in her life.
Well, in Israel there are many "Russian" pensioners who do not know any language other than Russian. well, like this they do not apply for work and for them there is a Russian-language TV channel, radio, inscriptions in polyclinics are duplicated, necessarily a Russian-speaking someone should be in national insurance, polyclinics, hospitals, banks.

Well, for garlic. Is it possible to live in France without knowing French or in Italy without knowing Italian? It would be possible to just eat and poop ... but that’s probably all .... working without knowing the language of the country of residence is impossible.
Just a week ago I looked on YouTube (if you want to - type in YouTube search) "UNKNOWN RUSSIA | Life of Estonian Narva and Russian Ivangorod"
There about the use and learning of the language is quite interesting - I recommend.

[Kerensky]

The fact that Estonians are forced to learn Estonian is not scary. But if you open Estonian language courses for military personnel in Pskov? Then they will win over all the voices .....

[rotmistr60]

When the Estonian anthem is played, they sing loudly Russian. They refuse to speak Estonian both with colleagues and officers. Also they terrorize Estonian guyswho are there in the minority

"Poor" Estonian guys suffering from Russians. Maybe it was just not worth it to initially discriminate against Russians in Estonia? Personally, I like this alignment. And the Estonian Ministry of Defense did not think why the native Estonians do not want to serve? Now the nightmares of Estonians are understandable - not only are the Russians at hand, but they also prevail in the army and at any moment they can turn their weapons in the other direction.

[pru-pavel]

In Estonians, they’ve gotten crazy - they want everyone in the Estonian army to know Estonian. ETOGES to what we shall come. At such a pace, soon in the Russian army they can suddenly make everyone know the Russian language. Mess and gagging.

[rocket757]

It’s logical ... ours, when they become ex, how to judge? The state, at one time, was not very concerned about them, and for us, in general ....
and now the train showed us the last car, just a little, a little, and he will hide there, beyond the horizon.
Someone else can jump from him, but after all, not all of the help is available, again, from our state it is not very much for them, although there is something!

[vitvit123]

Quote: Vol4ara

At us in VO great and powerful not everyone knows.

You will not be difficult to clarify what it means to you? What is your opinion about the person who made the mistake right away?

[L-39NG]

And in the Russian army, in how many languages ​​do commanders speak with subordinates?

[Agronom]

The Estonian Armed Forces are introducing compulsory Estonian language studies for Russian-speaking conscripts.

The next stage will be, they bow down and take off their caps in front of the "citizens of the Baltic states" .. What are the bastards doing, oh wait

[smihko]

Let the boys learn English. More benefit will be. Only Estonians speak Estonian. And how many are there? Anyway, they will die out soon with their national policies. There is no arguing against the laws of DNA when a brother marries his sister ...

[Klmn]

Good day to all. It seems to me that just someone through this idea of ​​money decided to make some money.
Think about how people who were born in a Russian-speaking family, but who have lived in Estonia for a long time have not learned Estonian at a colloquial level (I’m not talking about a written one), but that cannot be, if you like it or not, the language itself will "stick", but at least by the same names in the store. So it’s hard for me to believe that there are so many people who do not know Estonian, especially from people under 30.