French helicopters do not like Ukrainian generals

Airbus faced another challenge in fulfilling a contract to supply Ukraine with 55 H225 and H125 helicopters. According to the Intelligence online newsletter, Ukrainian generals do not like the condition and technical equipment of the supplied equipment.

In 2018, Ukraine, in the person of the Minister of Internal Affairs Avakov, signed a mega-contract with Airbus for the supply of H225 and H125 helicopters. As Ukrainian media enthusiastically stated then, in this way Ukraine is getting rid of the Soviet legacy and becoming less dependent on the “Russian aggressor”. The terms of the contract provided for the supply of 55 helicopters manufactured by Airbus Helicopters (light N125 and N145 and heavy N225). At the same time, it was clarified that two models of supplied helicopters - N125 and N145 - will be from among the new machines, and N225 helicopters will be delivered from the fleet decommissioned, which will undergo necessary repairs before airworthiness.

The contract, previously named in Ukraine as a “breakthrough” to the European market, has now encountered certain difficulties. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, which concluded the contract, began to express its dissatisfaction with the condition and technical equipment of the supplied helicopters. According to the publication, "Ukrainian generals offer to review the terms of the contract." In their opinion, it is necessary to supply fewer helicopters for the same price, but with more modern equipment.

Ukrainian generals do not digest the wear and tear of helicopters. Instead of numerous old H225 helicopters, they want to get more modern and better equipped H145. But Airbus currently continues to insist on the original terms of the contract. The visits of delegations to Paris and Kiev so far do not lead to any compromise

- writes the edition.

Airbus is in no hurry to meet with Ukraine, since the signed contract allows you to get rid of excess H225, which are stuck due to the bankruptcy of CHC Helicopters. As previously reported, in the person of Ukraine, the French found a buyer for most of the flightless fleet of H225 helicopters.

Comments

[Teberii]

It’s not for you to sell Mistral, they will come up with something else. And generally they will ask for free for protection against the aggressor.

[Lexus]

French helicopters do not like Ukrainian generals

Not everyone "stuck to their hands." And it turned out to be little.

[rocket757]

Zrada or common sense woke up?

[210ox]

Let them fly on brooms ... Mlya fly .. Once they have buried theirs ..

[novel66]

ordinary local redneck! Vitya

[rocket757]

Quote: novel xnumx

ordinary local redneck! Vitya

If you look, are the dissatisfied with the new generals or the same ones who once expressed their approval?

[novel66]

what's the difference ?? maybe the same, but a penny didn’t fall in a pocket - and they were indignant

[rocket757]

Quote: novel xnumx

a penny didn’t fall in a pocket - and were indignant

this is a sure sign, cause of indignation.

[novel66]

the French - they, too, select misery, regretted to roll back something

[rocket757]

Quote: novel xnumx

the French - they, too, select misery, regretted to roll back something

And for the French, Kukuevsky are interesting insofar as. Well this is not to do business with India.

[FenH]

Quote: rocket757

Zrada or common sense woke up?

They began to look at the gift horse. They will explain the party policy to them.

[rocket757]

Quote: FenH

They began to look at the gift horse. They will explain the party policy to them.

In general, they have a new trend in the top leadership, the geyropa is not a close friend to them! You can not lick so often ... or lick only a certain uncle!

[Mouse]

Quote: rocket757

You can not lick so often ... or lick only a certain uncle!

Only definitely, money ahead!

[rocket757]

Quote: Mouse

Only definitely, money ahead!

Well, yes, then the chairs will definitely be ... or maybe they won’t ??? This is their business.

[Mouse]

Quote: rocket757

Well, yes, then the chairs will definitely be ... or maybe they won’t ???

straight sharpie with katala ....
Goldberg, the famous card cheater, appears before God.
- What do you want? the Lord asks.
- I want to go to heaven.
- Ruled out. Shulers have no place in paradise.
- From now on, I promise to play honestly. Maybe we’ll spill over into poker?
- For what?
- If I win, I will go to heaven, I will lose - to hell.
“Okay,” God agrees. “I'm giving out cards.”
Goldberg:
- Just ask without miracles!

[rocket757]

Quote: Mouse

Just ask without miracles!

With some cheaters, no homegrown miracles will help. Magicians "from God"!

[Mouse]

Quote: rocket757

Magicians "from God"!

anointed? I’m embarrassed to ask .... what?

[rocket757]

Quote: Mouse

anointed?

Not peace and oil, of course, and I took it in quotation marks for a reason, because it seems not about God there, but about his antipode!

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: rocket757

Zrada or common sense woke up?

Of course common sense. In the cloisette, blowing, rustling in the right ear, trembling in the right leg. In short, I want a new one, in oil.

[rocket757]

Quote: Mavrikiy

I want a new one, in oil.

And who will pay denyushku? besides, and who will take away \ buy old rubbish?

[TermNachTer]

Avakov’s position was greatly staggered. He took a good bribe from the French and then shoved this decision, but now the situation has changed and questions have arisen. And the answers will be given either by the Prosecutor General’s Office or the State Security Bureau, and there are people sitting there who, to put it mildly, do not like Sabakova.

[rocket757]

Quote: TermNachTER

Avakov’s position was greatly staggered.

This is of course their affairs, dill, but as it is often mentioned, the pan chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the gangs of Natsiks ... after all, they have an HOST, a breadwinner, etc.
In short, the part is not very and not simple.

[TermNachTer]

So I live in Ukraine. And watch this kunstkamera inside.

[rocket757]

Then you know more. Only everything and everything, only the persons involved know, not everything goes out.

[TermNachTer]

This is understandable, just related to the Motor.

[rocket757]

To have an attitude .... or to have something to do with you.
My relatives were left without a relationship with Nikolaev, and this does not please them at all. The benefit of their youth is now related to Me and my Friends, from this they all felt better.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: rocket757

Zrada or common sense woke up?

I doubt that with common sense you can buy decommissioned helicopters and shout about overpower. To the Soviet at least spare parts in bulk and thorough repairs, they themselves do some kind ........

[rocket757]

Quote: Ramzaj99

To the Soviet at least spare parts in bulk and thorough repairs, they themselves do some kind ........

The hard workers of their country consider living on this! Of course they don’t make pots, military equipment, but still this is a daily bread for many.

[tihonmarine]

Ukrainian generals do not digest the wear and tear of helicopters. Instead of numerous old H225 helicopters, they want to get more modern and better equipped H145. But Airbus currently continues to insist on the original terms of the contract.

Here they rolled the little lip, how long have you guys looked in the mirror? People are greeted by their clothes, and not like in the navy they say "We take everything worn, we wear everything second-hand."

[aszzz888]

As the newspaper writes, "Ukrainian generals suggest revising contract terms".

Purely ukrokaklovsky.

[Tarasios]

Eh ... Ukraine under the "sworn scoop" was one of the most technically developed countries with its scientific base and universal industry. And now, with all these "nezalezhnosti so peremogah" - the world beggar and the world collector of scrap and scrap metal. There are sooo second-hand boats from the United States - we take them and celebrate the victory. There are helicopter gunships from France killed in the trash - such an opportunity cannot be missed, definitely. Developed countries want to get rid of spent nuclear fuel cheaply - Ukraine will easily provide land (do not care that there is no working technology of disposal, this is a problem of future two-headed descendants, but money is now). It is necessary for the States to shake off a batch of RPG clones at an exorbitant price - Ukraine is right there.
Overwhelmingly, nyat ...

[Ryaruav]

you are wrong this is not a country this signboard has never been such a country and believe me soon all these geographical news will disappear and by the way the same Belarus is nonsense

[TermNachTer]

Technical development has nothing to do with it. There was a good bribe in euros and perhaps some guarantees for the future, if a "grandiose nix" is coming in Banderland.

[Cut Samshitov]

And most likely in the USA they decided to attach their second-hand "guinto-wings". So they hinted to their pets to turn on the fool.

[TermNachTer]

So the United States would have steamed. They have used Sikorsky and Bell - unmeasured. Anyway, write off, as well as earn money and plants loaded with work.

[rybalkin-igor]

Under the USSR there was no COUNTRY Ukraine, but there was the Ukrainian SSR.

[Wolf]

To buy one weapon from the French can only be stupid or much coercive. What is in the outskirts?

[Wolf]

The slogan of "TRAITORS" in Ukraine during the collapse of the USSR was: "Ukraine feeds Rosiu!" Who is feeding now? Sorry for the people and ochim. All politicians in Ukraine over the past 40 years in a place with "businessmen" (criminals) deserve life imprisonment, and maybe life and execution?

[g1washntwn]

- But I don’t like iPhones at all!
- No money left?
- Yes.

[TermNachTer]

Why pay more? Why is iPhone better than xiomi?

[Cut Samshitov]

Why pay more? Why is iPhone better than xiomi?

Right Lada Kalina also drives. Why buy a Mercedes?

[TermNachTer]

If you compare the cost of maintenance and repair of Lada and Merc, then I would rather ride a Lada. I don’t need anything.

[SERGEY SERGEEVICS]

French helicopters do not like Ukrainian generals

Why so soon? Looks expensive come out, can not afford.

[Zaurbek]

Having our own production of engines and systems for helicopters, to buy incompatible equipment with them - these are PPC comrades!

[Troll]

Yes, they have nothing more and can’t build anything anymore. Only here, many, by inertia, think that the industry is still intact and engineers in the workplace.

[Zaurbek]

But do the engines themselves? Service for all Milev cars is ...

[rybalkin-igor]

Ukraine has nothing to do with helicopter service. It only maintains engines. But no helicopters.

[TermNachTer]

I will say more about the repair and revision of the Mi - 2, Mi - 8 airframe, with the installation of composite parts or others, a license from Mil is available for Motor Sich. Overhaul of old gearboxes has been established and a new gearbox is being made, albeit on the basis of old Soviet BP. A whole line of engines from 450 to 700 hp, and TV - 3 - 117, the latest versions. During the repair, new avionics are installed, if the customer wishes. But none of this is needed.

[rybalkin-igor]

Let it be known to you, the glider from Mi-2 and Mi-8 have an assigned resource, both in hours and in years. You yourself do not produce fuselages for helicopters, and the glider you need will end soon in the garbage dump.

[Zaurbek]

You can buy a used car. There would be a fantasy.

[rybalkin-igor]

And who will sell them? And the point is, from shit trying to mold candy?
Mi-8 type helicopters are produced only by Russia. Mi-2 for 20 years as the Poles do not produce. Well, Ukrainians will take the old fuselage, they will paint it in a yellow-black color, and this is where the whole modernization will essentially end. Engines of greater power than TV3-117 (or their modifications) cannot be set. There are serious restrictions on the fuselage and tail boom. That is why the assigned resource of the Mi-8 MT and its descendants is lower than that of the Mi-8T. Below both in hours and in calendar years. And to invest many millions of dollars so that the freshly painted Mi-8 will fly for another 6-7 years, there is no economic sense.

[TermNachTer]

in general, TV - 3 - 117, is placed on the Mi - 8. For the Mi - 2, there is a whole line of engines from 450 - 600 hp. and a new gearbox. Plus refinement on the glider.

[TermNachTer]

I don’t argue, once they end. But there are still a lot of them at the storage bases.

[AlexVas44]

Quote: FenH

Quote: rocket757

Zrada or common sense woke up?

A gift horse, teeth began to examine. SCHA them party policy will explain

Why donated. For this "gypsy mare" they gave a lot of pennies, but they do not fly. Flew ....

[rotmistr60]

"Ukrainian generals propose to revise the terms of the contract"

What, what, and they love to revise the concluded contracts (agreements). This has already become a national Ukrainian game called "And I am a cunning song" or "Try to fool". Let's see if the French can withstand the Ukrainian onslaught and how it will end for Ukraine itself.

[Mouse]

Quote: rotmistr60

"And I'm a cunning song" or "Try to fool"

- He just something - so immediately into the bushes.
“So is he an unreliable comrade?”
- He is a reliable comrade, he has an unreliable stomach ...

[K-50]

French helicopters do not like Ukrainian generals

If Makaron continued to assent to Ur Kaine in everything, to groom and cherish her Russophobia, they would even "eat" full of scrap metal.
And when they stopped talking, so immediately the question of the technical condition appeared.

[Tarasios]

"Ukrainian generals propose to revise the terms of the contract"
What, what, and they love to revise the concluded contracts (agreements). This has already become a national Ukrainian game called "And I am a cunning song" or "Try to fool". Let's see if the French can withstand the Ukrainian onslaught and how it will end for Ukraine itself.
Well, honestly, India and Belarus also love such games)

[Forest]

Clearly, they want new ones at the price of old ones)

[forcecom]

As I understand it, the "Ukrainian generals" checked the helicopters and now they fear that because of their technical condition, these same summermen will not be able to evacuate these same generals from the country with all their household members and "honestly earned belongings" at the command "melon". We are waiting for the slogans "Each Ukrainian General has a personal evacuation latak"

[Kerensky]

Ukrainian generals do not like the condition and technical equipment of the supplied equipment.

Well, that's how it is. They didn’t take for people, but for the generals!

[KVU-NSVD]

currently faced with certain difficulties. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, which signed the contract, began to express its dissatisfaction with the state and technical equipment of the supplied helicopters. As the newspaper writes, "Ukrainian generals offer to revise the terms of the contract."

The stump is clear, it’s just that the budget is not already stretching for these helicopters ..

[Amateur]

In their opinion, it is necessary to supply less helicopters for the same price,

? but with a big rollback.

[Andrey Kirilenko_2]

lakh Ukrainians are bred for money by all and sundry.

[svp67]

According to the Intelligence online bulletin, the Ukrainian generals do not like the state and technical equipment of the supplied equipment.

Oh, their eyes were bugging, they were shooing ... yes, D. Uren is getting richer with a thought

[orionvitt]

Pancake. "rzhunemagu". No money, show off above the roof, it's time to take it back. On the other hand, they portrayed themselves "beautifully" on the arms market. Yes, Motor Sich has already repaired the entire existing Soviet heritage park. Or is he no longer there? Sold to Africa? How was it in the helicopter regiment in Berdichev, in 2007?

[Berkut24]

Sign all documents, and then demand constant changes. And so absolutely in everything and with everyone. There are still 20 billion left in all European courts to sue, so as not to pay for anything.

[Nikolai Redko]

Well done, the French: they threw the Ukrainians up like thimblers of suckers at the station. They unloaded scrap metal (there is no need to deal with hemorrhoids for recycling) and, along the way, at the expense of Ukraine, loaded their jobs to repair these "buckets". Obviously, there were some "gifts" to Avakov personally before the deal from Khokhlyatsk money!