Ukraine showed a variant of the Kolchuga electronic intelligence complex

Private company "Special Design Bureau" Target "" at the exhibition "Weapon and safety - 2019 ”demonstrated the Kolchuga automated radio intelligence station RDF 360.

It is reported that this complex is the latest, although the creators of the old “Chainmail”, which was produced by the Topaz Donetsk plant, actively participated in its development. After the outbreak of war in the Donbass, production was transferred to the Zaporozhye Iskra. However, there were problems.

As a result, the private company Target took over the execution, which, as the company’s director general Vitaly Yakovlev had to, had to restore Kolchuga from scratch, creating a completely new complex adjusted for modern conditions.

The station radically changed the configuration. If the previous version of Chain Mail was located on eight machines, now everything is on a single platform. According to the developer, many characteristics are significantly improved, including range, sensitivity and the ability to recognize targets. Also, according to the claimed, the latest technology allows us to distinguish objects at a distance of 700 km.

However, the future of development is uncertain. Target does not have a full-fledged production base, and financing, according to Yakovlev himself, is extremely scarce.

Comments

[rocket757]

With the world on a string ... anyway, these already will not hide the shirt! with pots on their heads, that’s nothing.

[rocket757]

They do not create a new, just an upgrade of the Soviet heritage and something tossed by sponsors ....
Everything requires money, "bright brains" and skillful, competent leadership. While sponsors give something, while there is something to rip off the population, they will "tweet" ....

[Sky strike fighter]

The bliskavka does not seem to be similar to the X-31. It seems like the original development.

Ukraine is developing a lightning supersonic anti-ship missile (Bliskavka), with the help of which it expects to control the Black Sea, Chinese media reported.
“The Lightning missile, allegedly, is primarily intended to confront Russia.

according to one of the designers, the Russian anti-ship missile X-31 and the Ukrainian "Lightning" are equal in their capabilities, but the Ukrainian allegedly develops a higher speed and has a longer launch range

The X-31 is a Soviet and Russian tactical guided missile of the medium-range air-to-surface class. There are anti-ship and anti-radar options. The missile is capable of hitting targets at ranges from 70 to 160 km. The weight of the warhead reaches 110 kg, which is enough to destroy a ship with a displacement of 4,5 thousand tons. There are several modifications of the rocket, for example, the Kh-31AD with a range of 120-160 km., Or the X-31PD with a range of 180-250 km.

http://in24.org/technology/37545

[Sailor]

I disagree with you, most of our weapons are modified versions of Soviet models, their brains are the same as ours (they are Russian) and I’m even sure that they had something to do during the Maidan, such people with pans on their heads do not go , well, our management is not "Ice".

[rocket757]

Quote: Sailor

I do not agree with you, most of our weapons are modified versions of Soviet models, their brains are the same as ours

This is called a design school. They go along the path of improving already created designs / products, EVERYWHERE, basically.
Something completely new cannot appear completely out of thin air, the basis is taken from somewhere.
This is normal.

[kupitman]

An interesting exhibit. The only trouble is that the allies of Ukraine will never buy it, but will the Ukrainian army master the experimental operation?

[Teberii]

The army could, but the trouble is in financing. And hands are needed with this problem too.

[Kerensky]

Significantly improved, according to the developer, many characteristics, including range, sensitivity and the ability to recognize targets. Also, according to the claimed, the latest technologies allow to distinguish objects at a distance of up to 700 km.

Here it is alarming. This is a complex of electronic intelligence. That is, it works with sources of radio waves, which are now full.

[rocket757]

Quote: Kerensky

Here it is alarming.

Forgot to mention the improved selectivity / selectivity! Because in that "tangle of radio waves" anyone will get entangled, but not every one will get out!

[Kerensky]

Because in that "tangle of radio waves" anyone will get entangled,

Victor. Here I am about that. Selectivity takes time. To decrypt even more. Yes, add packet transmission. What do we get?
"Telefunken or R-153 went on the air under Stolbtsy. The transmission was carried out for 2 seconds. To decode the interception, go in a year and a half later."

[rocket757]

Kirill
In the topic of electronic intelligence, computer support and other ... I will not get confused, in the subject, how it is heated. BUT, again this is but. To create on a modern electronic base something decent (not outstanding) without problems.
The main question is finance, finance and quality, competent leadership of the process ....
But is it IS or NO ???
Judging by the statement, they have a lot of things that are missing, and will it really be a question ???

[KCA]

What a mighty country 404, not a day goes by that a new model of Ukrainian weapons doesn’t flare up in VO, from backward Russia there is much less news about new products, and Ukrainian samples like meteors will flare up brightly and ... have disappeared ... Forever

[ccsr]

It is reported that this complex is the latest, although the creators of the old “Chainmail”, which was produced by the Topaz Donetsk plant, actively participated in its development.

This is misinformation, because the old Kolchuga developers are in Kursk:

The design of the Kolchuga station was carried out in the 1980s. It was started at the Kursk Military Institute of the GRU of the USSR. Then the basic ideas of the complex were laid: passive radar in the entire frequency range. In 1987, the documentation for the station was transferred to the Topaz Donetsk plant. The design bureau of the plant completely remade the station due to the fact that it was not suitable for production. "Chain mail" was put into service with the USSR.

Due to the backward base at Topaz, some parameters of the product had to be changed so that they could produce them in series. And what svidomye can create now, one can only imagine, if they have no scientific base or technological equipment for this.

[Professor]

However, the future of development is uncertain. Target does not have a full-fledged production base, and financing, according to Yakovlev himself, is extremely scarce.

The production base is handled by outsourcing. But I believe in financing, although Kolchugas were also exported. there is one complex in Israel.
I dare to suggest that what remains in Donetsk is forever poached.

[mvmptzna]

However, the future of development is uncertain. Target does not have a full-fledged production base, and financing, according to Yakovlev himself, is extremely scarce.

- It's not quite like that. Just recently there was news,

https://defence-blog.com/army/israel-received-kolchuga-m-passive-radar-system.html

to which a couple of articles have been dedicated to VO.

https://topwar.ru/152022-zachem-izrail-pokupaet-u-kieva-kompleks-razrabotki-sssr-jeksperty-razmyshljajut.html

https://topwar.ru/152301-kolchuga-m-na-podhvate-izrail-zasvetil-ahillesovu-pjatu-sobstvennoj-radiotehnicheskoj-razvedki.html

On Wikipedia, the cost of the station is $ 24 million (2011). In the document, the cost of one station is $ 61 million.
Question: Israel does not know how to count money, for which Israel paid at least 2 times more?

Now a new model appears. From this, far-reaching conclusions can be drawn. I won't, but a well-known Russian patriot could say: "Coincidence? - I don't think so!"

[Lopatov]

Quote: mvmptzna

Question: Israel does not know how to count money, for which Israel paid at least 2 times more?

For information.
They need this station in order to learn how to deal with it. Because Iran has them.
And yes, they didn’t need a new one, they needed the same as those that Ukraine supplied to Iran.

[mvmptzna]

Quote: Spade

For information.
They need this station in order to learn how to deal with it.

Possible.
It is also possible that for a full set of project documentation.
Made everything big small, improved theoretical calculations. And they signed a cooperation agreement. If orders come to Ukraine for Kolchuga, then in Israel there is a full-fledged production base on which Ukrainian contracts will be carried out.
Actually both options do not interfere with each other.

[Lopatov]

Quote: mvmptzna

Made everything big small, improved theoretical calculations. And they signed a cooperation agreement.

And why should they? For example, Ukraine and Burkina Faso also do not conclude any agreements. Because this African country cannot share anything with a more advanced country.

Quote: mvmptzna

If orders come to Ukraine for Kolchuga, then in Israel there is a full-fledged production base on which Ukrainian contracts will be carried out.

From whom? 8)))))))))))))))))
Those who have money for an Israeli-made product will not buy anything from Ukraine.
The fate of Ukraine is the sale of technologies inherited from the USSR, nothing more.

[aszzz888]

However, the future of development is uncertain. Target does not have a full-fledged production base, and financing, according to Yakovlev himself, is extremely scarce.

A little more and Uso !!!, it’s up to the winter - like penguins freeze.

[Igoresha]

I remember that in the "chain mail" scandal, almost everyone who was mixed up was strangled quietly, some at home, some in a Kiev prison

[Elephant]

They look nice cars, the layout is decent.

[ccsr]

Quote: Elephant

They look nice cars, the layout is decent.

Design development from Italian design bureaus, not otherwise ....

[Elephant]

Maybe the Turks took part or our brothers from Belarus.

[ccsr]

Quote: Elephant

Maybe the Turks took part or our brothers from Belarus.

The fact is that to create such a technique, one must not only have brains, but also a large amount of specific information, which is hardly available in these countries. That is why various statements that they did something serious there raise doubts - "hardware" can be created on the basis of foreign technology, but who will create programs for this complex remains in question. And the perspective must be taken into account - and who will share information on this topic with them?

[Antares]

It would be better to review the exhibition overview. And then every day about some kind of exhibit ..
earlier they did reviews at major exhibitions. And then rolled down to the local (Russian) and so on.
About the new creation.

The director of the enterprise Vitaly Yakovlev is many years old (he was 1947)

[Ryaruav]

lately there are a lot of news articles on the Ukrainian military-industrial complex, I think a very close war, not further than 2020

[Sky strike fighter]

Come on. The news is mainly about the mock-ups and plans to develop something. They don’t have a single really working product. They are not even talking about state tests, not only about deliveries to the troops, but you’ve got almost a war in half a year will begin.

[Avior]

they didn’t write very accurately.
Before the station was in two cars, made on one.
But the complex consists of 4 stations.

[TermNachTer]

It is necessary to understand this "Target", as well as "Practice", which makes armored vehicles, is made with one purpose - to spend budget money on R&D, and then say that due to lack of funding, nothing happened and quietly "slip over the hill".

[KVU-NSVD]

. If the previous version of Chain Mail was located on eight machines, now everything is on a single platform. According to the developer, many characteristics are significantly improved, including range, sensitivity and the ability to recognize targets.

I don’t believe in the ability to make such a qualitative leap from eight units to a single platform. And in the conditions of lack of money and the production of work by an incomprehensible company, I finally don’t believe .. The most important functions and characteristics have been kept at an acceptable (not even equal) level, the interfaces of the consoles have been painted in a modern "style", but to qualitatively surpass the old version? .. not believe ...

[Dzafdet]

Ah, what a beautiful car! So I want to walk on them from a 30 mm gun!

[awg75]

private Ukrainian company .... from scratch .... with meager funding .... the most modern station ... and don’t think about laughing at them, everything is very serious))))))

[orionvitt]

latest technology allows

It's already funny. Looking at the former favorite of the Ukrainian (still Soviet) military-industrial complex, in the field of radar, the Iskra plant, a smile spreads. By her own.