Are children under sixteen allowed? Ministry of Culture Supported Initiative

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Children do not need protection?


The Ministry of Culture of the Russian Federation supported the initiative to abolish age marking for films and any other works of art. The exception will be the “18 +” restriction, which applies to all kinds of “strawberries”, drug use scenes, cruelty and violence. That is, intermediate restrictions are eliminated, which were designed to protect our younger generation from information that could harm their health, mental and intellectual development, in accordance with the age of the intended audience.





In general, a mandatory clarification needs to be made: in the Russian Federation, a federal law “On the Protection of Children from Information Harmful to Their Health and Development” was adopted and entered into force on 2012 of the year. The provisions of this law are mandatory for all regions and organizations of the country, and no cultural institutions or film distribution offices are an exception. And the initiative proposed by the State Duma deputies and supported by the Ministry of Culture, at least involves ignoring this law in its current version. Or rewriting the law and making appropriate amendments to it, which in itself is more legal, but not the fact that it is more appropriate.

History There are more than a dozen years of age restrictions in our art, and especially in cinema. As many still remember, in Soviet times, movie posters at the box office often featured the words "Children under 16 years old are not allowed." Actually, then they didn’t especially bother with the gradation of age restrictions, although formally there were restrictions “0 +” and “6 +”, but with one significant difference from today - under the “16 +” restriction almost everything was connected that was related to sex, eroticism, violence, drugs and the like.

Now the gradation is much wider, which has become the main reason for this initiative. We have a restriction “For all ages”, that is, without any restrictions at all, as well as “6 +”, “12 +”, “16 +” and “18 +”. Briefly deciphering them, we get something like this:

"For all ages": a ban on any mate, any violence, smoking, alcohol, drugs, nudity and so on. Heroes, if they can curse, then only by well-known euphemisms like "Damn it!", Etc.

6 + restriction: short-term and occasional references (displays) of illnesses (not severe), accidents without serious consequences and not degrading the dignity of victims are allowed. At the same time, excessive naturalism of filming / descriptions is not welcome. It is also possible to show some illegal actions, but it is necessary in such a plot frame that it does not justify these actions and does not call for their commission. Roughly speaking, evil should be exposed and roughly punished, and the police officer Uncle Styopa should clearly tell the children that bad uncles will be in prison.

12 + restriction: episodic descriptions or displays of cruelty, violence (other than sexual) are allowed, scenes are forbidden to show “inciting to antisocial actions and exploiting interest in sex”.

16 + restriction: cruelty and violence are already allowed to be shown here, although excessive naturalism is also not welcome. Alcohol and drugs can be mentioned, but not encouraged. You can use some curses, but not derivative words on the letters "x", "p", "b" and "e";

And the final restriction, “18 +”: showing children is strictly prohibited in any case, even accompanied by parents, teachers or psychologists. Brutal violence, open sex, drug, alcohol, homosexual intercourse and the like perversions (except for those expressly prohibited by the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).


I ask readers to pay attention: the above are not the official formulations used in the law and the relevant documents of the Ministry of Culture, but their free arrangement by the author. Otherwise, we would have to quote too large a “sheet” of unreadable text, which is hardly appropriate in this case. But those who wish themselves can find the appropriate language on the Internet and compare them with what is written above.

Children are nothing, profit is everything!


On the one hand, it seems that there are too many gradations and it can be difficult to distinguish one category from another. Actually, this is precisely what motivated the position of the Ministry of Culture and personally Vladimir Medinsky. But there is another side to the issue: from the point of view of psychologists and educators, there are even too few gradations!

According to experts, the difference between a six-year-old and a twelve-year-old child is simply enormous, and it is certainly higher than the difference between a sixteen-year-old and an eighteen-year-old. Accordingly, to more accurately identify possible threats and stop them, one could introduce another intermediate gradation. What exactly would it be worth considering, let us leave it for the psychologists to discuss, it is only important that experts see this as a necessity.

On the other hand, there is a position of filmmakers and distributors who would like to simplify at any cost all licensing procedures associated with obtaining a film rental license. For them, this is a profit issue. And often very big profits. A movie recommended for family viewing is guaranteed to collect more revenue than a movie that has received the “18 +” restriction. And if so, we need to very seriously understand the question of who is behind this initiative: experts who are tired of work or movie distributors who are greedy for profit.

It is necessary to pay attention to the fact that the age ranking of films (and we are frank in the law, we are talking primarily about them) is accepted in most countries, including the main legislator of cinema fashion, the United States. We will not dwell in detail on American standards, we will only say that ours are largely copied from them. And what is surprising, there is no one in the mind does not come to cancel them.

Now about what will be canceled and “recommended for family viewing” and acceptable for children of any age to be unaccompanied by parents if lawmakers automatically, mindlessly remove all intermediate age restrictions. These are scenes of violence (without particular cruelty), and the use of drugs and alcohol, and scenes of a sexual nature, and eroticism. Yes, in a strict form, all this will fall under the “18 +” restriction, but in a slightly relaxed, muffled form - please, for decades, see how uncles smoke hash and how much fun they have. Look, seven-year-old, how uncles and aunts make love, just turning away from the camera and not showing a close-up of the genitals. Take a look at how a car crashes into a crowd of pedestrians and how bloodied bodies scatter in all directions ...

In addition, the absence of intermediate age restrictions makes it possible to show certain films and programs on TV channels at the most rated time, that is, in the evening, up to twenty-three hours. At this time, I remind you, most of the slightly older children can not be driven away from the TV, and parents often sit with them at the “blue screens”. The fact that they already broadcast all kinds of game now does not bother anyone. Let's add some more highly artistic violence with a touch of heavy erotica and drugs.

Minister of culture or lobbyist?


Well, the most interesting thing: to do all of the above without changing the corresponding law “On the Protection of Children from Information harmful to their health and development” is simply impossible. Therefore, it will also have to be changed. And to change, as we understand it, in the direction of softening the mentioned norms and standards, designed to protect our children from too rude and shameless manifestations of adult life.

A change in the relevant law can really seriously affect the overall safety of our children and their moral, mental and intellectual health. In the end, they didn’t accept it from a good life, the dominance of cruelty and almost undisguised pornography simply made our society respond to the problem and put at least some obstacles in the way of the spreading infection.

I will express my personal opinion. I have never been an ardent antagonist of Minister Medinsky. Probably there were flaws in his work, but there were many good ones. However, what he is going to approve now cannot be approved in any way. Yes, the system is imperfect, it needs to be refined and polished, it needs some corrections and more serious measures to force movie distributors and movie theater owners to comply with the prescribed norms and restrictions. But to take the path of least resistance, having generally abolished all intermediate restrictions, justifying it with the fact that no one will not fulfill them anyway, is a mistake.

If we are guided by this logic, then we and the Criminal Code need to be canceled - still no one executes. And if not the entire Criminal Code, then at least its sections devoted to economic crimes, corruption, money laundering and so on. Anyway, after all ...

But if we approach the issue with a normal logic inherent in any reasonable person who does not give a damn about his people, then such initiatives should be recognized as extremely dangerous. Therefore, let's ask Mr. Medinsky not to try to make life easier for himself and the film distributors, but to continue the necessary work to improve the norms and rules of the age limit when showing “works of art”. Moreover, it is really not a sin here to borrow foreign experience, which has already been worked out for a long time and even proved to be quite good.
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  1. +10
    17 October 2019 05: 35
    If we are guided by this logic, then we and the Criminal Code need to be canceled - still no one executes. And if not the entire Criminal Code, then at least its sections devoted to economic crimes, corruption, money laundering and so on.

    This is still in the project. All will be. Congressmen do not take bribes - they take money and lobby.
    1. +45
      17 October 2019 06: 00
      everything that now flows from TV screens from movies to all kinds of "talk shows" falls under the law on pornography.
      1. +29
        17 October 2019 09: 15
        Airfield (Airfield)
        everything that now flows from TV screens from movies to all kinds of "talk shows" falls under the law on pornography.
        Absolutely to the point! That nausea that is shown by the central channels (1, Russia, NTV, etc.) can not be called other than pornography. How do you tell me a garbage dump called "Let them talk" is different from a garbage dump called "House-2"?
        Now I practically don't watch TV at all, so a few documentaries on "Zvezda" and that's it. Everything else that pours from the screen makes you sick. The feeling that slop is being poured on you, and from morning to evening. Well, maybe the Kultura channel hasn't vulgarized itself, but who's watching it?

        As for the restrictions, they are of course needed, only in the modern world of computer science, you can get any information. And no one, not even their parents, can prevent this. The only salvation is by example to show children what is good and what is bad.
        If in my pink Soviet childhood, we somehow managed to get ourselves a deck of cards with porn photos, then with the modern development of the Internet ... we can only shrug.
        My nieces at 16 years old probably know more than I am at 45. And you can’t get anywhere from this, his mother’s progress through the deck ...
        1. +7
          17 October 2019 13: 45
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          How do you tell me a garbage dump called "Let them talk" is different from a garbage dump called "House-2"?

          And the "Field of Miracles" ?! belay It seems that Yakubovich saved Ernst's life when he was drowning in the sea! lol
        2. +2
          17 October 2019 14: 15
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Now I practically don't watch TV at all, so a few documentaries on "Zvezda" and that's it.

          I would also recommend the channel "T-24" ("Techno-24"), there are also good programs there. hi
          1. +1
            17 October 2019 14: 34
            I unfortunately do not have such a channel.
          2. +3
            17 October 2019 14: 47
            Quote: sgapich
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            Now I practically don't watch TV at all, so a few documentaries on "Zvezda" and that's it.

            I would also recommend the channel "T-24" ("Techno-24"), there are also good programs there. hi

            More channels "Science" and whoever has "Tricolor", then the channel "Galaxy". This is the only thing that I sometimes watch on TV, sometimes "2 * 2" (classic animated series).
      2. +9
        17 October 2019 11: 35
        This is true. but for some reason, age restrictions are, for example, on Soviet war films, i.e. on the material on which, in theory, children should be brought up, which we watched from childhood. Now 16+, 18+
        1. GDP
          +14
          17 October 2019 12: 09
          A law with age restrictions seems to be logical and correct, but like many other things in our country, it is carried out through ... a complete misunderstanding of the realities. Cartoons like Wait! - banned for viewing by children (promotion of smoking, alcoholism and violence)! Patriotic films about the war, many are excluded! In addition, our officials only give leverage over people and they will find on it a way to make money. Honestly, I am afraid every time our thought begins to take care of the people, each time I feel a clap in my pocket, or some kind of dumb and useless hemorrhoids. Moreover, all these restrictions do not work a damn thing. The law definitely needs to be finalized or returned to the form it was in the USSR.
          1. +19
            17 October 2019 15: 15
            Wait for it! - banned for children

            I would like to ask a classic question to the minister - Are we going the right way, "comrade"?
            Something in the generation brought up on the constantly smoking and wearing the Stirlitz swastika and not taking the pipe from the Isort Supreme, was not kol_iz_urengoy. And fairy tales about Little Red Riding Hood, despite the scenes of violence, did not prompt anyone to go eat children (IMHO).
            Maybe this is not the case with cigarettes?
          2. +1
            17 October 2019 21: 30
            Yeah, comes to the point of absurdity. There is a work in the school curriculum, but it is stamped 18+.
            And how can a child master a school curriculum?

            In my opinion, all that is in the school curriculum must have an appropriate permit.
          3. +1
            18 October 2019 18: 35
            Quote: GDP
            A law with age restrictions seems to be logical and correct, but like many other things in our country, it is carried out through ... a complete misunderstanding of the realities. Cartoons like Wait! - banned for viewing by children (promotion of smoking, alcoholism and violence)! Patriotic films about the war, many are excluded! In addition, our officials only give leverage over people and they will find on it a way to make money. Honestly, I am afraid every time our thought begins to take care of the people, each time I feel a clap in my pocket, or some kind of dumb and useless hemorrhoids. Moreover, all these restrictions do not work a damn thing. The law definitely needs to be finalized or returned to the form it was in the USSR.

            Yes, you just need to return the Union. Right now, Medinsky would work as a head teacher at school, Putin spent the kgb-e-pension in a cooperative, and I would finally turn on the telly!
          4. 0
            22 October 2019 03: 51
            Quote: GDP
            Cartoons like Wait! - banned for viewing by children (promotion of smoking, alcoholism and violence)!


            But in that Jerry there is neither smoking, nor alcoholism, nor violence.

            And the mouse that explodes the cat is immeasurably steeper than the pike that grabbed the wolf for a causal place when he climbed into the barrel with the inscription "Live fish". Remember?

            We. Those who are over 30-35 "Well, wait a minute" only because of Papanov.

            His laughter cannot be compared with anyone.

            None of which Dilly Billy and the other Donalds and Goofy stood nearby.

            And instead of transformers was Losharik ...

            - Where does childhood go?

            hi
    2. +3
      17 October 2019 07: 45
      Congressmen do not take bribes - they take money and lobby.

      Of course they don’t take it, it’s just a bonus to a good job.
      1. +8
        17 October 2019 07: 47
        Quote: Dimy4
        Of course they don’t take it, it’s just a bonus to a good job.

        But I wasn’t joking. There the bribe is legalized. We have it ahead.
        1. +1
          17 October 2019 08: 36
          If taxes are paid, then this is not a bribe, but a contribution to GDP.
        2. +2
          17 October 2019 14: 49
          Quote: McAr
          Quote: Dimy4
          Of course they don’t take it, it’s just a bonus to a good job.

          But I wasn’t joking. There the bribe is legalized. We have it ahead.

          They are already trying, like "force majeure circumstances", did not want to, but took it, because. could not help it.
    3. +2
      17 October 2019 09: 46
      Labeling does not work. My wife and daughters went to the cinema, so in the bloody Mochilovo 6 + advertisement, and the film about hopelessly sick and in love teenagers 16 +
  2. +31
    17 October 2019 05: 54
    Kindergarten officials. What can really stop these "18+" in the internet world ?? ... Children don't watch TV now. The time for selling CDs and books is running out. Why label something? Only - to provide income for several officials from "culture"?
    1. +13
      17 October 2019 08: 21
      All these gradations are add. loot for cinemas. Before, I bought tickets for the cartoon for children, and you spend an hour doing your own business. And now hop: "category up to 14", children can ONLY accompanied by an adult. Here is the add. the ticket was sold. Well, and a feeder for psychoconsultantlv, categories are not stamped for free.
    2. +15
      17 October 2019 09: 15
      "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of constant amazement."

      M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin
      1. +2
        18 October 2019 18: 37
        Quote: Plantagenet
        "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of constant amazement."

        M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin

        Here is a genius - for all time!
      2. +2
        19 October 2019 12: 38
        Quote: Plantagenet
        "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of constant amazement."

        M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin

        "The severity of Russian laws is compensated by the non-binding nature of their implementation," Mikhail Evgrafovich also seems to have said.
        1. +1
          19 October 2019 13: 16
          "It seems Poletika said: There is a salvation in Russia from the bad measures taken by the government: bad execution." P.A. Vyazemsky
          1. +1
            19 October 2019 14: 06
            Quote: Plantagenet
            there is salvation: bad execution

            Continuing the theme: "The laziness of an ordinary Russian person is not a sin, but an absolutely necessary means of neutralizing the seething activity of the fools guiding him." (C). wassat I don’t know the author.
    3. +6
      17 October 2019 17: 33
      Now it's time to use the screensaver from "South Park" everywhere:
      The cartoon contains obscene expressions and scenes of violence, so it should not be watched by anyone!
  3. +7
    17 October 2019 05: 59
    Nowadays, everywhere and everywhere, almost everything is assessed by a significant part of people from the point of view of "profitable not profitable", there is also "expedient, inexpedient", in which the difference is probably known only at the very top, exactly where they decide how many people and where send. There are also made other fateful decisions about what is possible for us and our children and what is not. That's just interestingly taken into account such a companet as conscience and the concept of shame associated with it, at least sometimes.
    1. +7
      17 October 2019 07: 12
      There is still such as extinguishing fires in Siberia ... economically unprofitable !!! angry Yes, they wanted to spit on the people, if it (mate) will be economically profitable! In principle, what the current ,, power ,, is doing!
      1. -1
        19 October 2019 14: 10
        Quote: Popuas
        There is also such as extinguishing fires in Siberia

        Tell me, who put out the fires in Siberia a hundred years ago? A thousand years ago? A million years ago? request Or do you want to say that there were no fires then?
  4. +7
    17 October 2019 06: 04
    let's ask Mr. Medinsky not to try to make life easier for himself and the film distributors, but to continue the necessary work to improve the norms and rules of the age limit when showing “works of art”.

    Something lately a lot of shoals from government officials.
    It's time to abandon the moratorium on the death penalty.
    1. +4
      17 October 2019 14: 48
      And then they will begin to execute themselves?
      1. +10
        17 October 2019 17: 29
        Quote: vadsonen
        And then they will begin to execute themselves?

        Dreams .. Dreams ... How can you wait for such a gift from them! This is only a hint of radical action)))) But theoretically it can be assumed that under favorable circumstances, the next hypothetical government rolls up the existing property with complete confiscation of property, regardless of its territorial location according to the Israeli principle.

        on the already mentioned Tuesday in the southern Mexican town of Las Margaritas, the displeased town governor tied him with a rope to a pickup truck and dragged the poor fellow through the streets until the police managed to recapture their unlucky boss from the crowd.


  5. +18
    17 October 2019 06: 15
    Therefore, let's ask Mr. Medinsky not to try to make life easier for himself and the film distributors, but to continue the necessary work to improve the norms and rules of the age limit when showing “works of art”
    ..... Dear author, it may not be worth asking Medinsky to improve norms and rules, and improve society so that the cult of violence, sex and drugs, money-grubbing does not flourish in it ...
    1. +6
      17 October 2019 08: 36
      .Dear author, it may not be worth asking Medinsky to improve norms and rules, and improve society so that the cult of violence, sex and drugs, money-grubbing does not flourish in him ...

      Definitely need to improve society. But we must not forget that Medinsky and the min.cult must be an integral part of the system for improving society, and therefore must work in this direction, including prohibitive measures.
      But the fact that these measures are changing like a weather vane in the wind suggests that there is no system for the moral development of society, officials like a swan, cancer and pike are pulled in different directions.
    2. +2
      18 October 2019 18: 40
      Quote: parusnik
      Therefore, let's ask Mr. Medinsky not to try to make life easier for himself and the film distributors, but to continue the necessary work to improve the norms and rules of the age limit when showing “works of art”
      ..... Dear author, it may not be worth asking Medinsky to improve norms and rules, and improve society so that the cult of violence, sex and drugs, money-grubbing does not flourish in it ...

      First of all, to eliminate the cult of money.
    3. +1
      20 October 2019 01: 25
      It is necessary to improve radically: to drive the citizen of the medyn with rags with culture with rags to begin with.
  6. +24
    17 October 2019 06: 18
    Consider me a hypocrite, consider me a squeamish, but I believe that any
    Ministry of Culture Supported Initiative

    Russia is doomed to failure only because it is impossible to put forward any age-related initiatives and at the same time look blindly at the sadistic tricks of schoolchildren in relation to their comrades; take care of the culture of speech and be silent when teens swear in public places; talk about teenage education and deny the possibility of physical impact, even in cases of protection of someone's life; talk about a healthy lifestyle and allow smoking in the courtyard of the school, the sale of alcohol in private stores and the distribution of various smoking and chewing mixtures ...
    A child reacts to lies more sharply than an adult. It is easier to deceive him than an adult, due to his small life experience, only a reaction to deception can be unpredictable ...
    And about the final restriction, “18+” - to begin with, try to remember the last children's film of Russian production ... Do not you remember? And I find it difficult ...
    1. +2
      17 October 2019 06: 34
      The secret of the dragon seal (Russia-China) 6+ just left the rental. Marking is applied to everything, not just "our" films. Just like in the USA they assign their own restrictions.
    2. +4
      17 October 2019 07: 11
      You most likely simply did not pay attention, and you did the right thing. Sometimes articles like "Real Tale" come out, which cannot be attributed to good films. But something of the level of "The Adventures of Buratino" '"About Little Red Riding Hood" or, for example, "City of Masters" will probably never be removed.
    3. +1
      17 October 2019 07: 16
      Double standarts!? No, her, what are you, it's only in the decaying west bully what you listed is like in production, there is a job description, but it’s impossible or impossible to work on, but everything is beautiful on paper ... the realities of Russian life sad
  7. +4
    17 October 2019 06: 53
    The author does not take into account one thing, that with simplification, films containing scenes of violence or eroticism can receive not an exemption in limitation, but immediately a maximum of 18+, and the whole article turns into a zilch.
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 09: 02
      The author is manipulating opinion. Read the comments! Most of the negativists were brought up under the 16+ restriction, and now they spit on what they were indignant about a few years ago - about "Well, wait a minute!" Which was banned for viewing by children. Now they are outraged by the opposite.
  8. -7
    17 October 2019 07: 07
    So not far and to the legalization of pedophilia.
    1. +2
      19 October 2019 20: 24
      Yo Mayo, 8 pedophiles on the site .... Where is the world heading?
  9. +3
    17 October 2019 07: 30
    I don’t understand these markings at all. "Krosh's Vacation" costs 18+. Now there are such an abundance of women in films about the war. The same is about the police. A woman cannot just appear ... Parents go to bed after a hard day. And the child begins to stare any films indiscriminately. Fortunately, in addition to poor TV, there is also video. Nowadays it is fashionable to show films with violence. It seems to raise the viewer's drive. The meaning of these films is simple, all businessmen are connected with crime. And often there is such a deductive method. "You will speak,". The Ministry of Culture and others like him digs a hole for themselves. This question will hang in the air. Like many others.
    1. +3
      17 October 2019 09: 13
      Quote: nikvic46
      And the child begins to stare at any films indiscriminately

      we advertise without films, one of which is worth the Malachi.
  10. +1
    17 October 2019 07: 48
    In a word - loafers - they will adopt a law that will not work, then they will change)))
  11. +4
    17 October 2019 08: 07
    This whole multi-stage system of age restrictions is absolutely not needed. It contributes to the education of infantilism, the inability to confront difficulties and navigate in life situations. Then we get irresponsible citizens who are not able to create either a family or a business. In the Union it was right, documentary and frank shots of murders, brutal violence and sex from 18, staging without explicit scenes from 16, the rest is for everyone. Yes, and this was not observed, for example, documentary shots taken in the liberated Nazi concentration camps were shown on TV without any restrictions. The man himself will choose what is acceptable to him.
    1. +2
      17 October 2019 08: 45
      This whole multi-stage system of age restrictions is absolutely not needed.

      Do you really show your young child how adults reproduce? wassat
      Of course not! And that means a system of age restrictions is needed. In the villages, children were taught how to slaughter a chicken or slaughter a pig, but from a certain age. That is, the age limit in society was, is and will be.
      1. +1
        17 October 2019 08: 53
        You apparently do not understand the meaning of what was said. Read the article carefully. There we are talking about such a system
        We have a restriction “For all ages”, that is, without any restrictions at all, as well as “6+”, “12+”, “16+” and “18+”
        and now re-read my comment, it says the following
        This whole multistage system
        so that you don’t write nonsense about what I didn’t really say.
        1. -1
          17 October 2019 09: 13
          I can answer you the same
          You apparently do not understand the meaning of what was said.

          I write
          In villages, children were taught how to kill a chicken or slaughter a pig, but from a certain age

          That is, it is precisely a multi-stage system that is needed. Somewhere since 10, sheep have been cut, but somewhere
          in xnumx years a chicken cannot be slaughtered. And you offer everyone under one comb.
          A multi-stage system means more flexible regulation.
          1. +2
            17 October 2019 09: 27
            You know, there’s such a good saying that you don’t have to tell people what to do and they won’t tell you where to go. What is possible and what cannot be established by the cultural level of people, and not by orders of ministries. How many ministries will not issue decrees, with the levels of this or that, they will not act on regulars of drinking establishments, for example.
            1. -1
              17 October 2019 10: 30
              What is possible and what cannot be established by the cultural level of people, and not by orders of ministries.

              Absolutely true. Therefore, films are worth gradation. And you decide whether to go or not. In this case, the option is excluded that you will get to some porn with a child.
              If you think that your child has a high level of development, watch any movie with him, no one can forbid you and they will let you into the cinema. but one child, without parents, will not be allowed to participate in the 18 + film, and they will do it right.
              on drinking regulars, for example, they won’t act.

              and in order not to become a drunkard, you need to watch the right movies and read the right books in childhood.
      2. +9
        17 October 2019 10: 20
        Sorry, but in the villages you remembered about, peasants lived in families in one-room huts for hundreds of years, and somehow multiplied. They kept cattle, which is deeply purple, from what age people have been watching fowling. So it is extremely naive to think that peasant children did not know where they came from.
        P.S. When I was born, my family (dad, mom and brother (11 years) and my sister (13 years)) lived in the same dormitory room.
        1. -1
          17 October 2019 10: 26
          in the villages you remembered about, peasants lived for hundreds of years as families in one-room huts, and somehow multiplied.

          You do not think that all the children were spectators of the process? and advisers? wassat
          Naturally they knew where the children come from. The question is something else. You go to the cinema with a child and see the 18 + restriction, will you go with your baby or choose another film?
          This is your business! You were just warned. One child will not be allowed, and absolutely rightly done.
          1. +4
            17 October 2019 10: 45
            Advisers are unlikely, but the audience happened. At least in the dorms. And this is me to you completely seriously. We have already received an apartment, and some classmates still lived in dormitories. Shared ...
            And in a movie with a small child on an adult film? (Adult, not in the sense of XXX, but in the sense of serious) A strange idea.
            And when "Well, wait a minute" fell into the category "for adults", they also took care of morality.
            1. +1
              17 October 2019 10: 49
              I agree about the excesses of stupid officials (about NU, wait and not only)
              And I went with the children to the adult film "War of the Zombies". Well, they love horror films, and I went with him, they warned me that I was responsible for all the consequences myself and we went.
              And if there were no gradation, who would warn anyone? It was possible to run into an adult film.
              1. +2
                17 October 2019 11: 24
                Quote: glory1974
                It was possible to run into an adult film.

                God forbid memory ... 1989 was. I flew to Kolyma for the last time, then returned with my father, and while waiting for the plane (transfer), we went into the video salon out of nothing to do. Formally, I was not yet 16, but mon papa was shocked by what he saw in broad daylight ... a Stalinist falcon, a reserve major, he worked in geology, in a mine ... And I would say that it was a terrible bang, but no, something like "Greek fig", maybe a little tougher ...
      3. 0
        18 October 2019 17: 46
        I chopped off a chicken’s head last summer before the first grade (an aunt from the 1924 generation kept a chicken and I’ve hatchet from the first blow) and nothing has grown up as a normal citizen of my country
  12. +8
    17 October 2019 08: 11
    Under the Soviet Union there was only one marking: "Children under 16 are not allowed" and that was quite enough. all other abomination that forms our worldview was simply not initially, at the level of scenarios, allowed in principle. Today, the ministry of cult is engaged in oskotinivanie all of us, so that we have only three convolutions left: to eat and sleep. Cinema shapes not only the behavior of children, but also adults.

    Cinema (TV) is one of the tools of ideological power, carrying out to the masses the goals of the dominant concept in a convenient form for the masses. In order to change the policy of all media, it is necessary to change the concept of life in the structure of society.
    1. +6
      17 October 2019 08: 18
      Quote: Boris55
      Today is the min.cult takes care of us allso that we have only three convolutions left: to devour and sleep.

      good
      Exactly!!! This is done by all the institutions of power, for the herd is easier to manage, and the needs of livestock may still interest the shepherds, but at the slaughterhouse the emotions are superfluous.
    2. 0
      21 October 2019 14: 43
      In order to change the policy of all media, it is necessary to change the concept of life in the structure of society.

      Colleague Boris hi , You almost literally quoted Ostap Bender's answer to old man Khvorobiev about the reason for the nightmares that tormented him - "... the same dream, the same dream ..."
      Bender then said, in order to get rid of nightmares, you need to remove the cause that causes them. And the reason was the existing government, which was unrealistic to remove, which Ostap informed Hvorobiev about. smile
  13. +1
    17 October 2019 08: 22
    The stalls and drinking rooms in residential buildings and near them, near schools and kindergartens with their regular visitors do much more harm than cinema and TV, only for some reason they don’t disappear anywhere, and after the next shutdown they perfectly reincarnate.
  14. +2
    17 October 2019 08: 25
    Children are nothing, profit is everything!

    For them, this is an absolute criterion of need!
    It will be hard for parents !!! Because no matter what, no one, there is NO HOPE!
  15. +4
    17 October 2019 08: 38
    Well, yes, the law is idiotic, since it was rewritten from American. If we follow similar laws, we will grow up from our children stupid, infantile and helpless Americans. What for it is necessary? According to this law, a child can be put on Marvel’s children's movie only after reaching puberty. You can’t talk about diseases until 6 years old !!! Seriously?
    It's just that the Ministry of Culture is trying to bring the law in line with common sense.
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 09: 17
      According to this law, a child can be allowed on Marvel’s children's movie only after reaching puberty. You can’t talk about diseases until 6 years !!! Seriously?

      By law, you are only warned that a movie is, for example, 12 +, but if you go to the movies with your child or are allowed to watch on TV, then you take responsibility.
      1. 0
        17 October 2019 11: 08
        The cinema depends on the interpretation of the law. It happens that they are ready to let one child go, and the second - FIG. And what should I do with the second? So I'm only for revision
  16. 0
    17 October 2019 08: 40
    I am against any "official" prohibitions and restrictions. Yes, that's right, against. It all starts in small - "with care", "prophylaxis", "prohibit, no matter what happens," and so on. And it ends with a "concentration camp" (where the whole world is slowly and successfully driven "under the" approval "of a herd nodding an empty head - in which there is only one thought - "as if something does not work out", "what if"). If you do not want your children to "look" and "read" something there, then you yourself and watch it yourself And any official prohibitions and restrictions in the end result .... not in vain did one theologian say: "the road to Hell is paved with good intentions" .....
    1. +6
      17 October 2019 10: 13
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      I am against any "official" prohibitions and restrictions

      because at first they give freedom (which implies also responsibility for oneself) and then they cut off under the guise of security concerns / and other shnyaga. And under the guise of caring for children, everything is carried out. Even the fact that children harms more.
      And it is accepted as an argument to cite (and what about the children) in order to bring out another ban. It’s like a weapon. The weapon itself does not fire. But it is dangerous and should be prohibited. A vicious circle of idiocy.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      will end - "concentration camp"

      any state control of a citizen’s life is the control of a concentration camp.
      The state is not abstract, but officials. It turns out entrusting control to the abstract, we give specific people the power to decide. And they decide in their favor. So, nothing serious can be transferred to the state as regards personal freedom and family.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      And any official prohibitions and restrictions ultimately lead ..

      public control.
      In general, hello the Middle Ages.
      Neither freedom nor responsibility to you .. everything is decided by God or the king or the monarch .. (in our case, the official)
      1. +1
        17 October 2019 11: 11
        You have indicated everything absolutely correctly. People have lost a sense of independence, a warm barn, albeit under the butcher's knife for them, is preferable to freedom in the forest, where you can meet a predator. But talking about this is useless - most of this will not understand, they already live absorbed in the blood: "what if", "whatever happens," "and the stick shoots itself once in a hundred years," etc. The government, those who run society understands this very well and keep people in constant fear, in order to support this "what if" and under this "noise" they pass laws that drive this human herd into an increasingly less and less comfortable barn .... it's like with a woman to drag her in bed you need to: "first scare, and then hurry" ...
  17. +11
    17 October 2019 09: 01
    Guys !!!!!!! Let's remember our recent past. Cartoon WEATHER. Specifically, it falls under the category of 16+, or even 18+. Volchara smokes like a locomotive, uses an alcoholic drink, an attack on representatives of the law, damage to state property, theft of motor vehicles, malicious violations of traffic rules, the hare is clearly not an adult, here the article is drawn to pedophilia, the wolf also dressed up as a snow maiden here you yourself understand that this is being advertised ... Well, take the fairy tale about "The Frog Princess", zoophilia is not covered up, judge for yourself, marries a frog, a cold slimy infection laughing , and at the feast, the drunk river flowed. Then the frog fell over to Koshchei, the old one, of course, Dzhigarkhanyan was a blossoming young man against him, but the little gold coin was in Gokhran, and it didn’t really limit it, Vanya met her without any particular fuss, though she kicked him out without a market, naf .... g he she needs a rogue wink . In general, not everything is so simple request
    1. +9
      17 October 2019 10: 14
      "The Adventures of Cipollino" will probably be banned soon. Since extremism and the overthrow of the constitutional order winked
      1. +3
        17 October 2019 10: 33
        In 2014, the theater "Commonwealth of Taganka Actors" staged a Cipolino play, where the main characters, fearing unrest, made their way to Prince Lemon and filed a petition to him, the prince regained his sight and canceled some decrees.
        1. +2
          17 October 2019 11: 27
          Here you go. "Careful, doors are closing, next stop" Arrived. "
      2. +2
        19 October 2019 14: 35
        Quote: Van 16
        "The Adventures of Cipollino" will soon be banned altogether, probably

        About "Dunno on the Moon" generally keep quiet ... According to today's Criminal Code - an article on an article ...
    2. +1
      17 October 2019 13: 33
      Nupogodishny Wolf - Special Forces! He is physically developed (in the first issue he climbed the rope on one hand), swims perfectly, parachute jumping is not a problem for him, accurately shoots and easily controls any equipment from construction to racing cars. But the hare is major.
  18. +2
    17 October 2019 09: 02
    I’m thinking at what age you can watch. Are the dawns quiet here, or, for example, go and see?
    And at what age did children in the USSR watch them?
    1. 0
      17 October 2019 09: 16
      Quote: Avior
      Go and see?
      And at what age did children in the USSR watch them?

      They showed on TV, but honestly, I won’t be able to watch the second time
      1. +2
        17 October 2019 09: 26
        At the time of the appearance of Go and see, I was already 18+.
        But I remember exactly that the schoolchildren were taken to cinemas in an organized manner, sat in entire halls, I can’t just say which classes.
        1. +3
          17 October 2019 10: 02
          Quote: Avior
          At the time of the appearance of Go and see, I was already 18+.
          But I remember exactly that the schoolchildren were taken to cinemas in an organized manner, sat in entire halls, I can’t just say which classes.

          took us to films in classes, then wrote essays on them. and according to "The Dawns Here Are Quiet", and according to Vasil Bykov, "Obelisk", and "Until Dawn" and no one taped our eyes to the nude, everything was natural, it was perceived calmly.
          1. -5
            17 October 2019 10: 40
            They did not take children to "Come and See": it was "not allowed for children under 16"
            1. +4
              17 October 2019 11: 04
              Schoolchildren were taken for sure, I watched the film in a hall full of schoolchildren.
              But what classes, I will not argue.
              1. 0
                17 October 2019 11: 11
                Senior, for sure. For junior and middle film is too heavy.
                1. +3
                  17 October 2019 11: 31
                  It is difficult even for adults.
                  1. +2
                    17 October 2019 17: 55
                    Quote: AS Ivanov.
                    Senior, for sure.

                    No.
                    Quote: Avior
                    It is difficult even for adults.

                    However, we were pioneers. 5th grade, as soon as he left, the whole class went. Yes, this is not "Battalions are asking for fire."
  19. +2
    17 October 2019 09: 03
    Movies are one thing. Quite different is the talk show talk. And I'm not talking about the notorious House 2. The same DNA or Malakhov when viewing creates a sensation of surrealism. This can only be shown to mature and mentally stable people. Better yet, just stop shooting.
    1. +3
      17 October 2019 09: 20
      Quote: garri-lin
      This can only be shown to mature and mentally stable people.

      impossible, I want to catch Malakhov and ...
    2. -3
      17 October 2019 11: 05
      Who makes you watch this slag? Now it’s not the USSR with its 2-3 channels, now you can choose content for every taste and color. Scientific - educational, sports, historical channels - look, I do not want to.
      1. -1
        17 October 2019 19: 31
        Personally, I only watch STS and 2 × 2 on TV. Well, the little things: news, sports, old films. But the older generation looks at all the slag. They actually do not care what to watch, you know dementia. And the younger generation, tearing themselves away from the tablets, sometimes simply collects the designer sitting next to his grandfather, and quietly get drawn into the viewing.
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  21. +3
    17 October 2019 09: 24
    besides officials there are still Christian organizations representing the church. these are even worse. How many metal concerts have been canceled because of them, and they consider the concerts blasphemy and heresy, and pornography, gangster hip-hop, hop-hop and Zekovsky chanson - no! this was not even with the Soviet Union. Yes, there was censorship, cordon, etc. but the concerts didn’t break so off!
    damned bearded cribs!
    to endure them not to God, for the sake of show, rotten inside, there is a second cousin of the father, that still greedy beast! and in childhood was normal during the USSR
    1. +8
      17 October 2019 09: 52
      I agree with you that real normal music in Russia is now rarely heard on a pair of three radio stations, few of your brainless jail songs have been dragged to music from navy bandits from the USA
  22. +1
    17 October 2019 09: 50
    And here, the Soviet era, now on the smartphone you can see anything and do not need to go anywhere.
  23. +3
    17 October 2019 10: 10
    On the other hand, there is a position of filmmakers and distributors who would like to simplify at any cost all licensing procedures associated with obtaining a film rental license. For them, this is a profit issue. And often very big profits.
    The main criterion of capitalist society is "profit" and for the sake of her beloved the entire state machine works. For her (profit) there is no age, no person, she is blind, but greedy to horror, for her sake there are wars, states are crumbling, people are dying. The person goes to the last plan.
  24. 0
    17 October 2019 10: 18
    limiters is a way to control big money. For products designed for wider consumer groups are more profitable.
    By labeling a product group, you control sales. You control the flow of money.
    Imagine the temptation to sit on cash flow and control it ..
    Caring for people / children is just a slogan to justify.
    Where the official’s hand controls something (like the state) everything is decided in favor of the official.
    The abstract "state controls" does not exist.
    There is a group of people hired for money to do a certain job. Without the control of the employer (taxpayer)
  25. +1
    17 October 2019 10: 21
    . Minister of culture or lobbyist?

    A good question, with an obvious answer, for me, looking at the list of video rentals, new signs on houses, in honor of new "heroes", TV programs of state channels
  26. +6
    17 October 2019 10: 54
    Quote: Wend
    Labeling does not work. My wife and daughters went to the cinema, so in the bloody Mochilovo 6 + advertisement, and the film about hopelessly sick and in love teenagers 16 +

    And for reading to children in kindergarten Peter Ershov's fairy tale "The Little Humpbacked Horse" the teacher is fired. And our "most humane court in the world" supports this nonsense. Only the tales of A.S. Pushkin ban or 18+ put them.
    1. +2
      17 October 2019 18: 05
      Quote: mavrus
      And for reading to children in kindergarten Peter Ershov's fairy tale "The Little Humpbacked Horse" the teacher is fired.

      Why is there such a thing? I was just learning to read it in kindergarten.
      Quote: mavrus
      Only the tales of A.S. Pushkin to ban

      About Pop and Balda - definitely necessary. wink
    2. 0
      17 October 2019 22: 58
      In fact, the mythical "Pyotr Ershov" is the real AS. Pushkin. Alias. This can be considered an already proven fact.
  27. -1
    17 October 2019 11: 04
    Quote: Plantagenet
    "The Russian government must keep its people in a state of constant amazement."

    M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin


    Soon they will be amazed that the hand will reach for a slipper or boot to launch into the TV:
    "Yuriy Pronko: The government is ready to finance Dom-2 from our wallets. And you."

    Again, they are following the path of total duping of the people, the substitution of true values ​​(family, respect for the elderly, patriotism) false.
    Girls with reduced social orientation with millions of followers on social networks were flooded with advertising blocks on TV, the younger generation, as in the 90s, is leaning along the path of self-destruction, education, which has become the destiny of the elect, stamps mediocrity. Government officials sending their offspring to 20000 (twenty thousand!) in the United States and Britain, preparing a transitional, transfer government.
    Soon the children of officials of different classes will return and show us who our true rulers are.
    Welcome to a world where money and family relationships rule.



    1. +1
      17 October 2019 11: 47
      I haven’t been watching TV for 8 years (I don’t have a TV) and I advise you, news on Yandex and in, and films from youtube please
    2. +1
      17 October 2019 18: 18
      Complain about House 2, and they themselves pulled here an even bigger trash, but from the Internet. Fu Fu Fu and minus
      1. 0
        17 October 2019 23: 00
        The Internet gives you a CHOICE of what to watch for yourself and show to children.
        And so that there would be no impression of the Network as from a garbage dump - you don’t have to climb on garbage sites.
        1. +2
          18 October 2019 00: 57
          ? You can watch anything and anywhere, but why drag this stuff here?
          1. 0
            18 October 2019 11: 08
            What trash did I bring here? belay
            1. 0
              18 October 2019 19: 20
              I'm talking about the video above. And not specifically about you, but figuratively.
  28. +3
    17 October 2019 11: 30
    In fact, children no longer watch TV, and do not read books, and from the age of 6 they wear smartphones and stick out on the Internet in "Contact" and other social networks, exchange the necessary links to the necessary information there ... that is, you can at least some designations put, if they want, they will have this information .... So, dear Russians, you have a direct road to the "Chineseization" of the Internet under the pretext of "worries about the inaccessibility of unauthorized-prohibited-restricted content for distribution" ... there is one more path to the "electronic concentration camp" (but this is, after all, for your own good, right? wink ). Yes
    1. +2
      17 October 2019 12: 09
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      screaming on the Internet in "Contact" and other social networks

      Now the main social network of young people is Instagram. American social network, daughter of Facebook. Well, try to publish there at least something remotely resembling a naked body - to begin with, your publication will be sent to a "quiet ban", this is when it is not formally deleted and not prohibited, but it does not appear in people's feed. And after several attempts, they can ban the entire account. Moreover, according to their rules, pornography includes even quite chaste pictures in closed swimsuits, and even a naked male torso. I'm not even talking about all kinds of rottenness of any minorities. And recently there was a notification from the developer about a change in the rules for advertising submission, which now prohibits restricting the search for buyers by any anthropometric data. You cannot set up ads only for fat people, you can’t set up ads only for whites (for example, if you are renting out housing, you cannot write that only to Russians, etc.)
      And this is in the most democratic country, where no concentration camps were and are not planned. No Chinese is America, baby!
      1. 0
        17 October 2019 12: 46
        So (see my first post) I am writing about the WORLD-wide tendency to drive all of humanity into a controlled "digital concentration camp". On this path, some countries have succeeded more, others less. The leader is China with its "China's great firewall" and "loyal citizen's e-passport." Russia is steadily following this "Chinese" path. If we talk about "instagram", then this messenger is something like a multipurpose "forum" with its own "moral-restrictive" rules like this forum (Military Review) - try to put a pornographic card here on VO. wink Well, if we talk about the United States, the United States is very different and there is a hidden war between the federal government and local government within this country and quite a few decisions of the federals are sabotaged or not implemented at the state level ... well, for example, the federals have been fighting for a decade make federal Mormon states live ....
        PS: about "there have never been concentration camps in the USA" ..... wink
        http://www.sdelanounih.ru/konclagerya-v-ssha/
        https://topwar.ru/78159-amerikanskiy-gulag-a-oni-vse-o-stalinskih-repressiyah.html
        https://svpressa.ru/world/article/124657/
        1. +2
          17 October 2019 15: 50
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          If we talk about "instagram" then this messenger is something like a multipurpose "forum" with its own "moral and restrictive" rules

          This is not a messenger, you are confusing something. Instagram - photo social network.
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          So (see my first post) I am writing about the WORLDWIDE tendency to drive all of humanity into a controlled "digital concentration camp".
          There is no such tendency. Everyone spares what and how he wants. American restrictions I described above. But in Russian VK normal annealing is possible with bare tits, etc. but try to write something abusive about power in VK and you will immediately fall under the law on insulting officials. In China, too, has its own theme - they fenced off with a firewall, but there are social networks with whistles and fakes. I do not see in this chaos the struggle for tolerance or purity of the thoughts of the Communists in the digital era, no general idea. Everyone goes crazy in his own way.
          try here on the VO to place a card of pornographic content.
          It turns out we have a concentration camp here?
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          about "there have never been concentration camps in the United States."
          in the fascist or Stalinist sense of the word "concentration camp" - was not, links did not open, but I guess that there are tears for the Confederates or a century later - for the Japanese.
  29. +4
    17 October 2019 11: 40
    the state consistently discharges its duties
    I would like to recall how the nobility in RI ended when I got rid of duties and drowned only for the expansion of privileges. It was destroyed inexorably by history, because drones always end the same way.
  30. 0
    17 October 2019 11: 43
    girl in the photo
  31. for
    0
    17 October 2019 11: 53
    Quote: Bulrumeb
    This is true. but for some reason, age restrictions are, for example, on Soviet war films,

    Remind me at least one.
    1. 0
      17 October 2019 12: 12
      Quote: for
      Remind me at least one.

      Now I can't remember the specifics, but the inscriptions "children under 16 are not allowed" were unambiguous. And I remember it was not small to get into every film.
  32. +1
    17 October 2019 12: 31
    Gospidya! What kind of "fly" bit the Author that he "suddenly" woke up ?! What will the adoption or repeal of "some" law change? request Never mind ! For even now, children and adolescents have the opportunity to watch without any particular difficulty and "porn", and "chernukha", "dismembered" and so on in "this kind"! If not on cable TV, then on the Internet ... Now, it may happen that you will have to fight for the "age of consent" again! Now, the so-called "age of consent" is 16 years old! But there was a time when there were State Duma deputies who advocated lowering the notorious "age" to 14 years! I had to "hear" that even now there are "strawberry lovers" in the State Duma, that they are trying to "return" to "14 years old" ... I want to remind you that in the 90s in Moscow there was a rumor that the Stolitsa magazine is preparing to publish a list of "homosexuals", pedophiles from members of the State Duma, government ... The editor of the magazine then complained that his telephones were "cut off" by "tovarischi" from the Duma, government "authorities", "terribly" interested: are there their names on this list! belay
    1. +1
      17 October 2019 13: 09
      It’s enough to take a minibus .... you’ll hear enough of it and watch enough, and you’ll sniff it .... wink Similarly, children under 16 + .... wink
    2. -3
      17 October 2019 17: 07
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      But there was a time when there were State Duma deputies who advocated lowering the notorious "age" to 14 years!

      1. Let me remind you that in the God-saved USSR, in particular, Article 119 of the RSFSR Criminal Code was in force. Sexual intercourse with a person who has not reached puberty. “Maturity” was understood as objective circumstances that usually occur at 12-14 years of age, but in order not to sweat with expertise every time, court practice considered the age under discussion to be exactly 14.
      2. The mentioned deputies of the State Duma, as far as I know, criticize this norm from the point of view of insufficient savagery: they are interested in the legalization of "traditional" weddings in regions where "women at 27 are already shriveled." In Russia, I remind you that the age of marriage for peasant girls was considered to be 12 years.
      But how did you get married, nanny?
      So, apparently, God ordered. My Vanya
      It was younger than me, my light.
      And I was 13 years old.

      Nino Chavchavadze-Griboedova was 15.

      3. The current version of Article 134 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is monkeying with the crazy American laws about Romeo and Juliet. The Americans, under the influence of their mizulins and gundyaevs, a full ban on a cupcake up to 18, received a wave of cases of "mutual rape" of student youth, which, according to these laws, had to be imprisoned for 20 years, as is customary in the United States. Feeling the breeze of the '68 revolution, American lawmakers made a trick with their ears and legalized cupcake under 18 in case of a small age difference. In the case of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, responsibility begins with the age of the senior partner 18+ and the younger 16-. That is, up to 18, the senior can afford everything except youngsters. Thus, the legislator does not prohibit the cupcake, but limits the choice of partners for 14-16 year olds to their relative peers.

      It is believed that this is not his dog thing.

      Applied to realities. A rather broad-shouldered guy, a major and a medalist, who was younger than everyone in our class by six months or more, studied with me at school (he has a DR in February of the next year relative to all of us). In the 10th grade, he started dating a girl from the 11th. I don’t know when she had a DR, but it is theoretically possible that she was in January, but already “her” year. That is, it turns out two years of difference. We studied at 10 years old, without the 4th grade.
      In this situation, he is 14, she is 16+ - all the rules. He is still 15 (he went to the 11th grade as a 15-year-old), she is in the 1st year, she is already 18. Pedophile, shoot. In a couple of weeks he is 16 and again all the rules.

      Laws allowing such cases to arise should not exist.

      4. Sane criticism of the current edition of the Criminal Code is based on the balance of rights and responsibility. If criminal responsibility for rape cases occurs at 14, then all adolescents who have reached this age, every single one, are obliged to hear "no" from the other person. Not "when they are ready", not "children are different," but everyone is obliged to one, that's what the criminal law is for. Hence, again, every one of them can say no themselves. And if a person can say no, then he can say yes.

      The age of consent cannot be higher than the age of criminal responsibility. Either the person is a child, and is not responsible for his actions, or is responsible, and then roll away from him.

      Separately, I note that reducing the age of consent does not mean legalizing the cake for money and prona. Both that, and another, are regulated by separate norms.

      In Russia, I have never heard a position from officials on point 4.
  33. 0
    17 October 2019 13: 41
    Quiet nonsense. 16+ or 18+ the rest are fictional gradations to justify the existence of a pile of ebullient loafers. Let's say 0+ or ​​all the same - 6+, because they slipped a mosquito with a slipper.
  34. +6
    17 October 2019 13: 41
    It has long been the impression that the state is waging a war against its people for destruction, the territory is being cleaned up, culture, education and upbringing are being destroyed, society, creative and scientific potential are being destroyed, the "final solution of the Slavic question" is firmly and steadily going on, that failed in 41, it is successfully solved by poor and mediocre, but ambitious, greedy and corrupt descendants of the once great people who were not conquered by anyone, who had proud ancestors-winners. The entire internal policy of the state machine, more like a colonial administration, is aimed solely at ensuring the prosperity of the inherited class, which makes up 1% of the population. If you have at least a drop of common sense and logic, you finally get out of the coma of a parallel, virtual world, having an idea of ​​the history, mentality of your people, then sitting in a fortress in the center of a monstrous metropolis, sucking out like a turbo pump all the potential and resources of the country, should be very uncomfortable sitting, not even on a powder keg, but on a nuclear warhead with a running timer. And since fools are not kept there, scoundrels and thieving, corrupt crooks are full, but there are no fools, then their logic of suicidal actions and decisions to destroy their homeland and ancient civilization is completely incomprehensible.
    1. 0
      17 October 2019 19: 16
      Yes, they have logic - we chop cabbage here, we live there. And it is customary to carry out the public burden from the state to build a socially oriented business in one place and sometime later.
    2. +3
      18 October 2019 15: 55
      As one recently asked in one topic ... Are you not patriots of the current government ?! And believe me, there are most of them. What's in life, what's on the site. If you suddenly criticize something, then you are either from the bulk detachment or the State Department spy. They even rush to defend GMOs.
  35. +1
    17 October 2019 13: 43
    Quote: Tomic3
    And here, the Soviet era, now on the smartphone you can see anything and do not need to go anywhere.

    live concert and a smartphone is a slightly different level of sensations. But you probably are not a fan of Heavy Metal, you won’t understand
  36. -1
    17 October 2019 13: 45
    Friend full requests. )
  37. +3
    17 October 2019 14: 44
    To me Medinsky: "not a matchmaker and not a brother, but so", but I'm afraid that all these laws can be used in the toilet. Today's first-graders understand gadgets better than the author, and there is EVERYTHING on the YouTube channel.
    As an illustration: two girlfriends (one -6 years old) are talking and one "enlightens" the other: "when a boy gives in his mouth" and so his dad downloaded such a film. I know less about an adult man than such whistles!
    We adults watch more TV than children. The smallest you turn on cartoons and it’s good, but which are older than EVERYTHING with smartphones, and we can only guess what they look there.
    If the authorities "cut off" access to the world Internet, then we can still talk about something. All the same, in our films, some other norms are observed, and there a long time ago they hammered into it. Rolan Bykov once spoke about this
  38. +2
    17 October 2019 15: 12
    Today, the state’s policy of ranking content at first glance looks like an attempt by a very hefty, but mentally defective creature to steer a passenger airliner. Fortunately, this policy does not affect anything real on the part of the audience, so they only laugh at the state. If the state is not interested in its authority, then this is how it should be, but where is all this noise, including this article? IS THERE ALL AS ONE SO SO Brainless?
    Not at all. Our authorities are almost completely unsuitable for managing the state. But for such things ... Who is REALLY affected by all these restrictions, for which the author of the article is so touchingly drowning (I understand, the payment should be justified)? Those who trade in content. From what kind of tag will be given to the film "on access" depends on which cinemas and at what price it will be taken, and most importantly - how much state money "to support culture" you can shake off!
    Having no relation to people (you can always see anything on the network), these tags very, very much affect the financial sharing, enriching all involved. And here, hundreds of people, turning over hundreds of millions of dollars annually, want to cleanly take away the feeder !! What a horror ... There are hundreds of such feeders in our state. Not allowing to grow or breathe, but allowing to build cottages in Crete and entire cities in the form of estates for one person.
    Yes, writing such articles to order is shameful. Well, shame will not eat the eye, and where is that shame? He died when the author was not born yet ...
  39. -2
    17 October 2019 15: 24
    In the USSR there was one age of restrictions - 18 years.
    1. +4
      17 October 2019 18: 18
      Quote: zenion
      In the USSR there was one age of restrictions - 18 years.

      "Children under sixteen are not allowed." Until 18 years old was not.
  40. +5
    17 October 2019 16: 56
    From my point of view, the situation with age restrictions today cannot be called anything other than a "madhouse".
    In Soviet times, there was the only restriction "Children under 16" for films in cinemas and that's it. And more explicit films were shown on TV after 21:30, when small children were already supposed to sleep. And they smoked (tobacco) in films and drank (alcohol) and fights showed that this did not bother anyone. Maybe there was an understanding that they drink, smoke and fight on the streets not because they saw it on TV? And they were engaged in raising young people from the nursery to the military commissar. One can argue that before there was only cinema, television and everything, but now .. and now .... But now the "pig" will find dirt "... In tyrnet you will find everything that you should not have looked for. And none." +12 "will not help from this. The problem is huge, but all" +6, +12, +16 ... ", they do not solve it, but are a simulation of a stormy activity on the principle" we crowed, but at least don't dawn there! !! ... "But the penalties for the absence or incorrect" +6, +12, +16 ... ", as far as I know, are quite specific, which suggests the true purpose of the indicated age restrictions.
  41. -1
    17 October 2019 17: 17
    When the law came into effect, the film "Liberation" with a 16+ rating was shown on some channel. I think that if I had not watched this film before the age of 16, I would never have seen it. At the age of 16+, interests suddenly change and war films fade into the background. Maybe restrictions are also made for this?
  42. 0
    17 October 2019 19: 08
    Each ministry earns money as much as it can and trades in what it is called to protect. We are building a society of social justice at all times. For me, so the decisions of the narrow circle of the Politburo are much nicer than the current one.
  43. +3
    17 October 2019 22: 10
    Ministry of Culture The budget allocates huge funds for the maintenance and development of culture. The lack of proper control over the spending of funds led to the disruption of many programs for the reconstruction of monuments of our cultural heritage, constant scandals around the ministry and landings. Perhaps Medinsky is the last of the Mohicans of the Ministry who did not sit or sit. So is it worth wondering about creative initiatives?
  44. +1
    20 October 2019 08: 39
    The author has confused warm with soft. All his text concerns only cinema. But these restrictions also apply to printed products. And the result is pure surrealism, the tales of the brothers Grimm-16 +, Romeo and Juliet-16 +. And such examples, a carriage and a small cart. It's the same with paintings and sculpture. The image of David, Michelangelo in the school textbook is the same 18+, from the point of view of reason, this is stupidity. And from the point of view of "experts" that's what you need ...
  45. 0
    20 October 2019 10: 06
    wassat they put 6+ on the hobbit and there, all 2 hours they cut the bosh, close up, the end of the can and completely treshak
  46. 0
    21 October 2019 12: 19
    Medina, alas, is just a doll in the hands of a big movie business. What they said something and promotes. Regarding TV, I agree with most commentators. At home, television is turned off, the TV is used only for watching specially selected cartoons and films. Internet remains, but there is control.

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