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In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

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The military-industrial enterprise Praktika presented the Ataman-2 BTR project and announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to the statement of potential developers, is the Italian Puma.


In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"


These days in Kiev, the local military-industrial complex is trying to imagine everything that Ukrainian industry is capable of. Within the framework of the exhibition "Weapon and 2019 security »defense industry enterprises showcase the latest developments.

Among other things, the scientific association "Practice" introduced the Ataman-2 BTR and announced its desire to convert it into the 4x4 version. The company also announced its readiness to develop a new Ukrainian BMP.

It has an assumed name of Getman - but this is not yet accurate. We do not yet know what requirements potential users have, primarily the armed forces, so we need to write a technical task together. If according to the Ataman version 4x4 from experience we roughly imagine what should happen, then by BMP we should know what they want from us. The standard we consider the "Puma".

- said the head of the development department of the research and production association “Practice” Sergey Vilkov in an interview with the program “Technique of war”.


BTR Puma - Italian wheeled armored vehicle with wheel formulas 4x4 or 6x6. As the main weapon has a machine gun 12,7 mm. Equipped with Iveco-8042 engines with 180 horsepower. This power is considered by many experts to be insufficient to carry out serious combat missions. In Italy, Puma has been in operation since 2001.

Perhaps it is a German tracked version of the armored vehicles with the same name - "Puma". If you are guided by the words of the representative of the Ukrainian company interviewed in the video: "But this is not accurate."
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  2. ABM
    ABM 16 October 2019 18: 30
    +11
    Let them build ... There is no sense from them
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 16 October 2019 18: 33
      +24
      Let them call it "Hetman Mazepa" and make the reverse speed maximum. In order to be true to tradition.
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 17 October 2019 02: 26
        +2
        Already made one heavy BMP. Very good and cool, based on the T72 tank. True, it can only move back and forth, the casing prevents the wheels from turning.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 16 October 2019 18: 39
      +4
      Quote: ABM
      Let them build ...

      And for what and how?
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 16 October 2019 19: 43
        0
        Well, just like in a movie:
      2. orionvitt
        orionvitt 17 October 2019 09: 30
        +1
        Quote: Tol100v
        And for what and how?

        Who cares. Anyway, the creator, with the development, has already dried up. Only Wishlist remained. With this, in Ukraine, everything is fine
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 October 2019 20: 29
      +3
      Quote: ABM
      Let them build ... There is no sense from them

      If they build? For from their statement I understood that the name was allegedly "Hetman" (and why not "Bandera" as they wanted to call AN). Yes, the point is not in the name, but in the fact that there is no TTD yet. Well, I just wanted to, they called it, and then "how the card will fall." Forgot one "Where's the money dad". Exaggerating I will say "The homeless wants a palace, and painted what it will be. But he will not build anything further than imagination." Well, do not be offended by the Ukrainians, if I am wrong, write and I will understand.
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 16 October 2019 18: 39
    +5
    In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

    And, the old cry, "Poroshenko is our hetman!" already truncated? belay
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 16 October 2019 18: 41
    +4
    Well this is really cool!
    Request one imperfection and start the next one!
    The result, another imperfection.
  5. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 16 October 2019 18: 42
    +4
    Folded two quotes - smiled.
    In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"
    but this is not yet accurate

    Let them build themselves. The question is - for what purpose and what will it give them ... well, at least at least in the medium term? Do not think about basic needs? No?
    They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 16 October 2019 19: 30
      +5
      Quote: KOT BYUN
      They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.

      And, they also banned winter entry to Ukraine and brought it to the "Peacemaker"

    2. Nadrub
      Nadrub 16 October 2019 21: 37
      +5
      So hello ! Will give a lot!
      The armor from Finland through Poland (otkatik) moved from Italy (Otkatik), and so on.
      And nobody needs the result there anymore, the main thing is the fatter chips!
    3. Shuttle
      Shuttle 17 October 2019 02: 00
      +2
      Quote: CAT BAYUN
      Folded two quotes - smiled.
      In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"
      but this is not yet accurate

      Let them build themselves. The question is - for what purpose and what will it give them ... well, at least at least in the medium term? Do not think about basic needs? No?
      They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.

      I drank the budget.
  6. Berkut24
    Berkut24 16 October 2019 18: 42
    +6
    What, since already one "hetman" cannot go to sea, then at least another one to crawl?
  7. Proton
    Proton 16 October 2019 18: 43
    +7
    Getmobile next conceived laughing with intercom cameras on the sights.
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 16 October 2019 18: 58
    +4
    The military-industrial enterprise Praktika presented the Ataman-2 BTR project and announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to the statement of potential developers, is the Italian Puma.
    A beautiful statement, the car is also probably not bad, but fortunately nothing is worth it - they won’t pull on a large series, and a dozen armored cars, at least arbitrarily beautiful, like a dead poultice for the army’s combat capability ... even for the Wild Field’s tachanka army.
  9. loft79
    loft79 16 October 2019 19: 02
    +4
    Speech about BMP or armored personnel carrier? They have an armored personnel carrier, "Ataman-2," which means BMP. Hence BMP Puma. German.
  10. marshes
    marshes 16 October 2019 19: 03
    +1
    It is worth looking at it, surprisingly, their achievements are presented to the country by the aggressor.
    Just say, if there is a patent, star to Canada. There everything can be solved.
  11. Terenin
    Terenin 16 October 2019 19: 04
    +1
    announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to potential developers, is the Italian Puma.

    Well it is clear winked , according to the presentation of the German Puma, there is only one drawback, this is the elevation angle of the gun - 45 degrees. But, the cost of this Cougar from five million dollars! No shit belay
    1. Graz
      Graz 16 October 2019 19: 17
      +1
      German Puma costs Germans 17 or 19 million euros I don’t remember exactly, somewhere on the VO about this news was another month ago
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 16 October 2019 19: 24
        +2
        Quote: Graz
        German Puma costs Germans 17 or 19 million euros

        hi
        I remember in the early 80s we were shown a computer class (the first computers were then buzzing like an airplane taking off), and the teacher said, "you see, these are computers, they are very expensive, so don’t touch them, get out of here!" Eh, youth drinks
  12. Graz
    Graz 16 October 2019 19: 16
    0
    more than a couple of instances do not slap anyway
  13. Alien From
    Alien From 16 October 2019 19: 18
    -2
    Recently, the saloyed non-brothers have directly taken up the matter, we are waiting for the news about the aircraft nets))))))
  14. Troll
    Troll 16 October 2019 19: 22
    +2
    One or two, for exhibitions, they can build. It will not work anymore, there is no industry for this. Not anymore.
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 17 October 2019 07: 09
      +1
      Yes, what an industry. Surely they are thinking about a screwdriver assembly, therefore:
      "We consider Puma to be the benchmark."
      Denied in a cougar will be considered the standard Bradley or even some game.
  15. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 16 October 2019 19: 44
    +2
    yeah, the bablopiles in ukraine burn in full, I wonder ....... "we don't know .." .... "the customer doesn't know yet" .... "we consider the coupon to be" Puma "... .normul., shorter as coal from South Africa
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 16 October 2019 20: 23
    +2
    The creatures in Kiev are over, have you given such a name? Would you call the BMP Bandera or BMP YAROSH, they have a lot of "heroes"
  17. xomaNN
    xomaNN 16 October 2019 21: 01
    +1
    In single copies, you can rivet a dozen "Schupanzers" smile But the production base? Kharkov Malysheva can do the usual tanks in the old way
    1. stalki
      stalki 16 October 2019 21: 48
      +2
      Kharkov Malysheva can do the usual tanks in the old way
      It can no longer, before, under the USSR, 96 tanks were made in a month. And now, perhaps only modernization and repair. The last thing they seriously tried to sculpt there is a "stronghold" and then 49 pieces for 7 years for Thailand, plus they put 6 pieces in the 18m in the army and all this with difficulty. The base may be, but there are no funds and resources, as well as hands and heads. And equipment is technically and morally obsolete. There is no movement forward, and time will not wait.
  18. nikolai.kolya
    nikolai.kolya 16 October 2019 21: 59
    -3
    All the same, it is not in vain that Ukraine is in the 10th armament suppliers. .. well done do not stand still
    1. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 17 October 2019 07: 15
      +2
      As stocks in warehouses run out and stand up.
  19. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 16 October 2019 23: 16
    +1
    For a long time there is no news about Rostik fellow - a genius designer from Ukraine (maybe ill?). Develop Ukrainian BMP for Rostik fellow - "seeds" yes
  20. Klingon
    Klingon 17 October 2019 02: 28
    +4
    Italian Puma and German Puma are a little bit completely different cars. Italian is a light wheeled APC with a 12,7 mm bullet, German Puma is a heavy tracked infantry fighting vehicle with 30 mm. with a rifled gun, it’s very easy to mistake their type, although you can expect anything from Svidomo lol
  21. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 17 October 2019 04: 41
    +4
    - "If according to the version of" Ataman "4x4 from experience we roughly imagine what should happen, then according to the BMP we should know what they want from us" - only the output always turns out "Azovets" !!!
  22. monster
    monster 17 October 2019 07: 39
    0
    The name "Hetman" - I will continue, Mazepa Judah lol
  23. sgr291158
    sgr291158 17 October 2019 09: 12
    0
    There is a desire, but there is no possibility.
  24. Vlp8
    Vlp8 17 October 2019 09: 57
    +1
    Sahaidachny? )
  25. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 17 October 2019 10: 06
    +1
    5 years ago, no one heard anything about this "Practice". There was an ordinary "buy - sell" company that did not deal with armored vehicles at all. Then there was a kind of war, and someone very cunning redesigned the desk for the development and manufacture of armored vehicles. Several exhibition samples are made a year, the quality is still a big question, but budget grandmothers flow like the Dnieper River.
  26. master 52
    master 52 19 October 2019 07: 34
    -1
    have already created so many things when it goes into the series? :)