In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

The military-industrial enterprise Praktika presented the Ataman-2 BTR project and announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to the statement of potential developers, is the Italian Puma.

These days in Kiev, the local military-industrial complex is trying to imagine everything that Ukrainian industry is capable of. Within the framework of the exhibition "Weapon and 2019 security »defense industry enterprises showcase the latest developments.

Among other things, the scientific association "Practice" introduced the Ataman-2 BTR and announced its desire to convert it into the 4x4 version. The company also announced its readiness to develop a new Ukrainian BMP.

It has an assumed name of Getman - but this is not yet accurate. We do not yet know what requirements potential users have, primarily the armed forces, so we need to write a technical task together. If according to the Ataman version 4x4 from experience we roughly imagine what should happen, then by BMP we should know what they want from us. The standard we consider the "Puma".

- said the head of the development department of the research and production association “Practice” Sergey Vilkov in an interview with the program “Technique of war”.

BTR Puma - Italian wheeled armored vehicle with wheel formulas 4x4 or 6x6. As the main weapon has a machine gun 12,7 mm. Equipped with Iveco-8042 engines with 180 horsepower. This power is considered by many experts to be insufficient to carry out serious combat missions. In Italy, Puma has been in operation since 2001.

Perhaps it is a German tracked version of the armored vehicles with the same name - "Puma". If you are guided by the words of the representative of the Ukrainian company interviewed in the video: "But this is not accurate."

Comments

[ABM]

Let them build ... There is no sense from them

[Lexus]

Let them call it "Hetman Mazepa" and make the reverse speed maximum. In order to be true to tradition.

[YOUR]

Already made one heavy BMP. Very good and cool, based on the T72 tank. True, it can only move back and forth, the casing prevents the wheels from turning.

[tol100v]

Quote: ABM

Let them build ...

And for what and how?

[Greg Miller]

Well, just like in a movie:

[orionvitt]

Quote: Tol100v

And for what and how?

Who cares. Anyway, the creator, with the development, has already dried up. Only Wishlist remained. With this, in Ukraine, everything is fine

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ABM

Let them build ... There is no sense from them

If they build? For from their statement I understood that the name was allegedly "Hetman" (and why not "Bandera" as they wanted to call AN). Yes, the point is not in the name, but in the fact that there is no TTD yet. Well, I just wanted to, they called it, and then "how the card will fall." Forgot one "Where's the money dad". Exaggerating I will say "The homeless wants a palace, and painted what it will be. But he will not build anything further than imagination." Well, do not be offended by the Ukrainians, if I am wrong, write and I will understand.

[Terenin]

In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

And, the old cry, "Poroshenko is our hetman!" already truncated?

[rocket757]

Well this is really cool!
Request one imperfection and start the next one!
The result, another imperfection.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Folded two quotes - smiled.

In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

but this is not yet accurate

Let them build themselves. The question is - for what purpose and what will it give them ... well, at least at least in the medium term? Do not think about basic needs? No?
They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.

[Terenin]

Quote: KOT BYUN

They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.

And, they also banned winter entry to Ukraine and brought it to the "Peacemaker"

[Nadrub]

So hello ! Will give a lot!
The armor from Finland through Poland (otkatik) moved from Italy (Otkatik), and so on.
And nobody needs the result there anymore, the main thing is the fatter chips!

[Shuttle]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

Folded two quotes - smiled.

In Ukraine, announced the desire to create a new BMP "Getman"

but this is not yet accurate

Let them build themselves. The question is - for what purpose and what will it give them ... well, at least at least in the medium term? Do not think about basic needs? No?
They would invent some superfood economical stoves - winter is a more urgent topic.

I drank the budget.

[Berkut24]

What, since already one "hetman" cannot go to sea, then at least another one to crawl?

[Proton]

Getmobile next conceived with intercom cameras on the sights.

[KVU-NSVD]

The military-industrial enterprise Praktika presented the Ataman-2 BTR project and announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to the statement of potential developers, is the Italian Puma.

A beautiful statement, the car is also probably not bad, but fortunately nothing is worth it - they won’t pull on a large series, and a dozen armored cars, at least arbitrarily beautiful, like a dead poultice for the army’s combat capability ... even for the Wild Field’s tachanka army.

[loft79]

Speech about BMP or armored personnel carrier? They have an armored personnel carrier, "Ataman-2," which means BMP. Hence BMP Puma. German.

[marshes]

It is worth looking at it, surprisingly, their achievements are presented to the country by the aggressor.
Just say, if there is a patent, star to Canada. There everything can be solved.

[Terenin]

announced plans to develop a promising Getman BMP, the standard for which, according to potential developers, is the Italian Puma.

Well it is clear , according to the presentation of the German Puma, there is only one drawback, this is the elevation angle of the gun - 45 degrees. But, the cost of this Cougar from five million dollars! No shit

[Graz]

German Puma costs Germans 17 or 19 million euros I don’t remember exactly, somewhere on the VO about this news was another month ago

[Terenin]

Quote: Graz

German Puma costs Germans 17 or 19 million euros

I remember in the early 80s we were shown a computer class (the first computers were then buzzing like an airplane taking off), and the teacher said, "you see, these are computers, they are very expensive, so don’t touch them, get out of here!" Eh, youth

[Graz]

more than a couple of instances do not slap anyway

[Alien From]

Recently, the saloyed non-brothers have directly taken up the matter, we are waiting for the news about the aircraft nets))))))

[Troll]

One or two, for exhibitions, they can build. It will not work anymore, there is no industry for this. Not anymore.

[Herman 4223]

Yes, what an industry. Surely they are thinking about a screwdriver assembly, therefore:
"We consider Puma to be the benchmark."
Denied in a cougar will be considered the standard Bradley or even some game.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

yeah, the bablopiles in ukraine burn in full, I wonder ....... "we don't know .." .... "the customer doesn't know yet" .... "we consider the coupon to be" Puma "... .normul., shorter as coal from South Africa

[APASUS]

The creatures in Kiev are over, have you given such a name? Would you call the BMP Bandera or BMP YAROSH, they have a lot of "heroes"

[xomaNN]

In single copies, you can rivet a dozen "Schupanzers" But the production base? Kharkov Malysheva can do the usual tanks in the old way

[stalki]

Kharkov Malysheva can do the usual tanks in the old way

It can no longer, before, under the USSR, 96 tanks were made in a month. And now, perhaps only modernization and repair. The last thing they seriously tried to sculpt there is a "stronghold" and then 49 pieces for 7 years for Thailand, plus they put 6 pieces in the 18m in the army and all this with difficulty. The base may be, but there are no funds and resources, as well as hands and heads. And equipment is technically and morally obsolete. There is no movement forward, and time will not wait.

[nikolai.kolya]

All the same, it is not in vain that Ukraine is in the 10th armament suppliers. .. well done do not stand still

[Herman 4223]

As stocks in warehouses run out and stand up.

[cat Rusich]

For a long time there is no news about Rostik - a genius designer from Ukraine (maybe ill?). Develop Ukrainian BMP for Rostik - "seeds"

[Klingon]

Italian Puma and German Puma are a little bit completely different cars. Italian is a light wheeled APC with a 12,7 mm bullet, German Puma is a heavy tracked infantry fighting vehicle with 30 mm. with a rifled gun, it’s very easy to mistake their type, although you can expect anything from Svidomo

[tolmachiev51]

- "If according to the version of" Ataman "4x4 from experience we roughly imagine what should happen, then according to the BMP we should know what they want from us" - only the output always turns out "Azovets" !!!

[monster]

The name "Hetman" - I will continue, Mazepa Judah

[sgr291158]

There is a desire, but there is no possibility.

[Vlp8]

Sahaidachny? )

[TermNachTer]

5 years ago, no one heard anything about this "Practice". There was an ordinary "buy - sell" company that did not deal with armored vehicles at all. Then there was a kind of war, and someone very cunning redesigned the desk for the development and manufacture of armored vehicles. Several exhibition samples are made a year, the quality is still a big question, but budget grandmothers flow like the Dnieper River.

[master 52]

have already created so many things when it goes into the series? :)