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Ukraine announced the delivery of island-type patrol boats to Odessa

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The naval forces of Ukraine will soon be replenished with two patrol boats such as Island, previously transferred to Ukraine by the United States. According to the Ukrainian military portal, both boats on board the cargo ship are already moving to Odessa.


Ukraine announced the delivery of island-type patrol boats to Odessa


Two patrol boats of the Navy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine “Slavyansk” and “Starobelsk” type Island will soon arrive in Odessa. Reportedly, in the first half of October this year, they were loaded aboard a bulk carrier in the American Baltimore, which headed for Odessa. The arrival of boats is expected in the 20 of October. After unloading and decommissioning of the boats, in November, a solemn ceremony of their introduction into the Ukrainian Navy will be held.

As previously reported, Ukraine is developing options for upgrading the transferred boats. Variants of installing a variety of weapons on boats, from mine-sweeping modules to American Harpoon anti-ship missiles and Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles, are being considered.

Recall that the US Navy in the year 2018 transferred to Ukraine decommissioned Coast Guard-class boats "Drummond" (WPB-1323) and "Cushing" (WPB-1321), built in 1988 and preserved in Baltimore.

Displacement - 169 t, length 34 m. Maximum speed - about 29,5 nodes. Crew - 16 man. Autonomy - up to 5 days. Before the transfer from the boats removed all weapons. Kiev pays for the modernization and repair of boats, their transportation to Odessa and personnel training.

Earlier, Ukrainian media reported. that the Navy command is in talks with the US Coast Guard to transfer four more boats of this type to Ukrainian sailors. It is reported that US boats will allegedly give absolutely free, the only thing that is required of the Ukrainian side is "to decide on the modernization of the radio-technical weapons complex and other technical issues."

It is noted that the boats will be delivered from among those stored in Baltimore, from where the first two were delivered. Representatives of Ukraine have already examined the existing base and selected the four most appropriate.

The headquarters of the Navy said that after the introduction of all boats in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division will be formed from them, which will not only control the near sea zone, but will also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."
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  1. revnagan
    revnagan 16 October 2019 17: 32
    -40
    A chicken on a grain .... It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 16 October 2019 17: 37
      +4
      at least in Nikolaev

      They put it up for sale. For "someone" to restore.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 16 October 2019 17: 45
        +21
        [Quote]Ukraine announced the delivery of island-type patrol boats to Odessa[Quote]
        And why to Odessa? We would be taken straight to Kerch! yes
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 16 October 2019 18: 10
          +3
          What Odessa, what Kerch. It will wash off the ocean wave from the deck and only a photo will remain for memory ... and whoever needs money in his pocket ... smile And they say that it was so ...
          1. krot
            krot 16 October 2019 18: 16
            +1
            They are probably "more interesting" than those troughs that we have drilled wassat
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 16 October 2019 20: 59
          0
          I congratulate the brothers - s..t in the sand on the shore is not like in a sea wave from the board.
      2. Agronom
        Agronom 16 October 2019 17: 48
        +10
        Quote: revnagan
        It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...

        There is nothing to restore there, as well as at tank and aviation enterprises .. Everyone was stolen on metal ..
        Here, the cut-off boats written off by the United States are accepted as a gift .. Soon before inflatable boats (fishing boats), it’s up to you .. negative
        Another Jew in power and EVERYTHING!
        And everything (on the outskirts) will turn into a farm near Dekanka .. Walk lads, America with you he he he Fie damn shame ..
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 09
          -21
          Agronom
          and tell us, brother, about the Volgograd Tractor!
          1. 210ox
            210ox 16 October 2019 18: 26
            +7
            You can tell. About "Rostselmash" and its "Akros" and energy-rich tractors, about the Bryansk plant .. And the Volgograd plant .. Well, our time does not need their caterpillar tractors ... Where there were five combines, they manage with one, where there were six tractors, also one get by.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 51
              -4
              210quq (Dmitry)]

              Dima, this five!) An excellent comment, I’ll supplement with your permission, but we don’t need airplanes, locomotives, machine tools, as well as medicine, science and education.
              I’ll just remind you that the Nazis did much less damage to the USSR industry than the past 25 years, and the legendary Volgograd Tractor produced not only tracked tractors, but also armored personnel carriers and BMDs, starting from 1 to 4M. And now here we see it https://www.dt-75.com/images/articles/VGTZ_razrushen_2016.png
              1. 210ox
                210ox 16 October 2019 19: 22
                +5
                Yes, airplanes and science are needed .. Only gas and oil are closer to our leaders ... But about BMPs ... Yes, when they were released by thousands .. Now, apparently, the requirements for the army are different. hi
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 16 October 2019 21: 18
                  +1
                  210query (Dmitry) That's right, Dmitry, we all did not fit into the cooperative-ozersky market ....
              2. Rzzz
                Rzzz 16 October 2019 23: 15
                +1
                Quote: Stroporez
                but also armored personnel carriers

                But here you, dear, are wrong. The armored personnel carriers were developed at GAZ, and were produced first at the plant in Gorky, and then in Arzamas at the "Corps plant". They were built a little in Kurgan.
                1. Piramidon
                  Piramidon 16 October 2019 23: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: rzzz
                  A little in Kurgan they were still built.

                  In Kurgan, BMPs were built at the KMZ and are now being built. No APCs were built.
                  1. Rzzz
                    Rzzz 18 October 2019 00: 13
                    0
                    On the KZKT, BTR-60 was produced at one time.
                2. Stas1973
                  Stas1973 17 October 2019 03: 16
                  0
                  And in Krasnoyarsk at the combine plant
        2. Rzzz
          Rzzz 16 October 2019 23: 05
          +1
          Quote: Agronom
          There is nothing to restore there, as well as at tank and aviation enterprises .. Everyone was stolen on metal ..

          The Ocean plant is working. Not in full force, of course, mostly ship repair. A couple of weeks ago they called me from there, they called for them to be repaired, they sent an advertising brochure.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 17 October 2019 08: 48
            +1
            Quote: rzzz
            Avod "Ocean" works. Not in full force, of course, mostly ship repair.

            If I am not mistaken, it was sold from state property to private hands for a ridiculous price. I wonder who now owns the "Ocean"? And as you write it still does not, but it works.
      3. Practice
        Practice 16 October 2019 17: 50
        +3
        Quote: lexus
        They put it up for sale. For "someone" to restore.

        Quote: News Portal
        The naval forces of Ukraine will soon be replenished with two patrol boats such as Island, previously transferred Ukraine by the United States. ... After unloading and decommissioning of the boats, in November, a solemn ceremony of their introduction into the Ukrainian Navy will be held.

        Boats are serviceable and with conservation.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 16 October 2019 17: 59
          -4
          I wrote about the Nikolaev Shipyard.
        2. Omskgasmyas
          Omskgasmyas 16 October 2019 20: 38
          -1
          They have neither navigation nor weapons. Ukraine also has big problems with this. The flagship Saygakdachny has one car faulty, and the locator is household, from a yacht or fishing seiner.
          1. Rzzz
            Rzzz 16 October 2019 23: 22
            +1
            Quote: Omskgazmyas
            and the locator is

            ... Furuno. This is the only navigation locator shown. Well, what can we do if the squadmen make the best radars in the world. And in Ukraine there were no plants for such equipment during the USSR.
            By the way, initially there was some kind of "Naiad-5" of Rostov production. Such radars were installed by both military and civilians. By the way, it was quite a decent radar in its time.
      4. Nycomed
        Nycomed 16 October 2019 17: 57
        +5
        We must forget about "Nikolaev Shipyards". Ukraine - forever, and Russia - for a while. good
      5. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 00
        -7
        Lexus (Alex) we must offer Deripaska or vrotenbergs they have a lot of money.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 October 2019 17: 46
      +8
      Quote: revnagan
      It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...

      The most powerful shipbuilding plants in the USSR, the Nikolaev plants, which built the aircraft carriers of the cruisers, cannot build boats for the border guard and OVR, and they have to collect "alms" from the world. Dear Ukrainians, I want to ask you "Aren't YOU ashamed?"
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 16 October 2019 18: 05
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Dear Ukrainians, I want to ask you "Aren't YOU ashamed?"

        And who will be ashamed there? Waltzman or Zelensky? It absolutely does not interest them! The State Department and the CIA are in charge of everyone there! What is significant is to destroy. Put in a debt hole and dictate your terms to the sold Thieves!
        1. Rzzz
          Rzzz 16 October 2019 23: 24
          +2
          As if this is only in Ukraine so ... fool
        2. revnagan
          revnagan 17 October 2019 12: 50
          0
          Quote: Tol100v
          And who will be ashamed there? Waltzman or Zelensky?

          laughing I found Ukrainians (forgive me for being "you")! Cut off. Yes, even if not cut off, we are a resource for them (bourgeois).
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 17 October 2019 12: 48
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Dear Ukrainians, I want to ask you "Aren't YOU ashamed?"

        It's a shame. That is why we are ashamed. But our authorities, which since the collapse of the USSR, have been leading Ukraine to a "bright European future" - at least ... in the eyes. Everyone has "take out the papaires", and that's it. every time so. I tried not to go to the polls (the last 2 times) - nothing changes anyway. All that remains is to believe and hope.
    3. 210ox
      210ox 16 October 2019 18: 21
      +3
      Now the cockerel will begin to stomp a chicken ... yes
    4. Andrey Chistyakov
      Andrey Chistyakov 16 October 2019 20: 15
      -1
      Quote: revnagan
      A chicken on a grain .... It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...

      And the hungry goes to bed ...
    5. Ratmir_Ryazan
      Ratmir_Ryazan 17 October 2019 04: 29
      -1
      A chicken on a grain .... It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...


      I would say they threw a bone to the dogs and they are glad.

      To restore production in Nikolaev ?!

      Where do such dreamers come from.

      You will not have any production of your ships, you are heavily indebted and continue to borrow more and more.

      Ukraine is waiting for default soon, and not its shipbuilding.

      Well, and the fact that you were "presented" with 6 decommissioned boats will soon become a stake at the coast, since you will not find spare parts for such boats with fire during the day.
      1. revnagan
        revnagan 17 October 2019 12: 53
        +1
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Ukraine is waiting for default soon, and not its shipbuilding.

        And Ukraine will certainly fall apart by the end of the year. And it will certainly freeze this winter. And crawl on its knees to ask for Russian gas. And Ukraine will never have missiles. And tanks, and other military equipment. And artillery guns certainly have nothing to fix. In general already very soon. good
        1. Ratmir_Ryazan
          Ratmir_Ryazan 17 October 2019 16: 39
          -1
          And Ukraine will certainly fall apart by the end of the year. And it will certainly freeze this winter. And crawl on its knees to ask for Russian gas. And Ukraine will never have missiles. And tanks, and other military equipment. And artillery guns certainly have nothing to fix. In general already very soon. good


          Not in a year, of course, but it will be so.
  2. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 16 October 2019 17: 33
    0
    The naval forces of Ukraine will soon be replenished with two patrol boats such as Island, previously transferred to Ukraine by the United States. According to the Ukrainian military portal, both boats on board the cargo ship are already moving to Odessa.
    But in general, the sea is rolling and the ocean is raging. And the horses again saved and did not make a sacrifice to Neptune.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 16 October 2019 18: 19
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      But in general, the sea is rolling and the ocean is raging.

      Cameras from "Belorus" or "Kraz" with a plank in the middle, instead of a bridge, and a flag in hand instead of oars! Do not deserve more, after the destruction of their Shipbuilding! With such a pace of development of their shipbuilding, in a few years they will start buying origami boats!
    2. ltc35
      ltc35 16 October 2019 18: 22
      +2
      When the news about the transfer of boats appeared on VO, they puzzled how the boats would get to the nenka. And it’s like that! On a dry cargo ship sent.
      1. Avis-bis
        Avis-bis 17 October 2019 08: 31
        +1
        Quote: ltc35
        When the news about the transfer of boats appeared on VO, they puzzled how the boats would get to the nenka. And it’s like that! On a dry cargo ship sent.

        Do not break. This method of transportation was repeatedly mentioned in discussions. True, for some reason, they came to the conclusion that it is expensive for Ukraine. But, in general, even river cruise liners were transferred to China.
  3. Nycomed
    Nycomed 16 October 2019 17: 34
    0
    And what, there is no "independent" scrap metal left in Ukraine? Do you already have to buy from the States?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 October 2019 17: 49
      +5
      Tin cans are 30 years old, "but they have a motor like my Sonya!" (Brother-2)
    2. Agronom
      Agronom 16 October 2019 17: 54
      +2
      Quote: Nycomed
      And what, there is no "independent" scrap metal left in Ukraine? Do you already have to buy from the States?

      They sold everything, even at the Chernobol graves, equipment and pipes were pulled away. hi More than once in the 90s, the delivery of the fonning scrap metal was spotted in Russia, but who knows what was smelted from it
      1. Leopold
        Leopold 16 October 2019 20: 56
        +3
        R'RёS,R ° F "RёR№ hi I’m checking it specially at night in front of the mirror - I won’t shine at night. So the can is in canned food not from Chernobyl. wink
  4. Magic archer
    Magic archer 16 October 2019 17: 35
    +8
    RCC Harpoon on a boat with a displacement of 162 tons !? Aw, you’re completely chtoli there))) !? Why not immediately the ICBM then))) ?! Do not forget that in addition to installing missiles, you still need to stick a radar somewhere and other equipment! In short, another wet fantasy about the mosquito fleet of Ukraine wassat fool
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 16 October 2019 17: 51
      +5
      Here the Swedes do not agree with you. They have a spoke - 205 tons with 57mm Bofors submachine gun, 2 torpedoes and 4 anti-ship missiles RBS-15 which are even bigger than Harpoon wink .



      Well, and the Iranians, a swarm of stealth boats gathered the US Navy + KSA + UAE to sink.

      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 16 October 2019 18: 33
        +3
        I beg to differ! All of the ships you listed are initially imprisoned for anti-ship missiles. But the Islands do not belong to those request therefore, it is from the same opera as the body kit of any civilian vehicle by armored cars and call it an armored personnel carrier wink
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 16 October 2019 19: 01
        +3
        So the Swedes will not agree with you feel Look carefully, their technique for working in skerries, little excitement. And there are no thirty boats, they will fall apart from shaking, and remoders from cruiser boats will begin to do, for raids on the Crimea.
  5. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 October 2019 17: 37
    +5
    Variants of installation on boats of various weapons are considered - from mine-sweeping modules to American anti-ship missiles "Harpoon" and Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune"
    So he will drown, withstand the overload on the tonnage, or when fired by a rocket it will crumble into spare parts, the metal does not live as much.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 04
      -16
      tihonmarine (Vlad)
      But what about Kuzya?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 October 2019 18: 27
        +6
        Quote: Stroporez
        But what about Kuzya?

        Before the collapse of the USSR, the "aircraft carrier" Admiral Kuznetsov reached the level of ships created by "Newport Newsik". It remained as a monument to the exploits of the Soviet people who created such ships, and a reminder for everyone how everything could end. It is a pity for the Nikolaev factories.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 35
          -9
          tihonmarine
          Well, for starters, not an aircraft carrier, but an aircraft carrier cruiser. Colleague, I remind you that the USSR has not existed for almost 30 years and over the past years nothing has been created, from the word at all, and poor Kuzya was sent to the tea house, from which he will return in the form of needles, nails and something else from Ali Baba. So that Kuzya will remain not only in our hearts)
          1. Safer
            Safer 16 October 2019 19: 05
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            and over the past years nothing new has been created, from the word completely

            What do you mean "nothing"? Development is underway. Not as fast as we would like, but still. At least 2 new Apple projects went into series. And a lot of other things.
          2. vladcub
            vladcub 16 October 2019 19: 19
            +2
            Sling, about Kuzi, there was information that not everything is so sad as you write.
          3. yaros
            yaros 16 October 2019 19: 26
            +4
            C'mon, it’s not created, 2 blocks from my house the Admiralty shipyards puff in 2 shifts, submarines and trawlers bake like pies, a little way off the 2 largest nuclear icebreakers in the world on completion, the floating nuclear power plant left last year ... I'm at the Baltic Plant shot advertising photos 30 years ago empty workshops generally had 1-2 orders for the whole plant, and now everything is clogged with ships under construction ... the fact that the anti-carrier cruisers are not building correctly, what for now we need to scare the Papuans .... Today the minesweeper from Pella went to the Baltic .. Feed the dry cargo ship every month ... And the Nikolaev plant is a pity .... the bastards pissed off, there were such ships .. even Sevastopol dropped a floating crane in the week, and after all, the former Poroshenkovsky plant was restored for five years.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 16 October 2019 20: 45
              -6
              yaros (Alexander) All your comments from the series, one grandmother said yes Let me remind you that the 30th year passed 1989 years ago and the head of the department was certainly not empty. And the second point, explain in pieces, pliz, and then compare with the 1989th year. And the third point, I said that even what is being done and what has not yet been stolen is done solely on the basis of Soviet developments and with Chinese filling (element base).
              1. yaros
                yaros 16 October 2019 21: 24
                0
                All of my comments, based on what I see a few blocks from me, unlike you, balabol, I can provide a photo of everything that I described here, namely the Baltic Plant 25 years ago, (about 30 got excited, I admit) Nuclear-powered icebreakers Now on the Neva (the project is not Soviet) A nuclear power plant that went into operation and so on ... So I don’t have to hang noodles, I also remember what happened, thank God I’ve lived half of my life under the Union, and by the way we didn’t pull our Petersburg dam, and a bypass road ... it was expensive, but under the Russian Federation they built ....
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 16 October 2019 23: 29
                  0
                  yaros (Alexander) All your comments are based on snobbery and illusions of a decent life in two capitals. Explain to me and to the inhabitants of the drowned and burnt Siberian regions, why the hell do they need your St. Petersburg dam! And also explain to them why children in the Ural schools go to a frozen wooden "ass"! And also tell them that the floating nuclear power plant will not force them to pay higher tariffs for e-mail. energy than the Chinese pay. So Sasha, you are even worse than the evening M., at least for money, and you ...
                  1. yaros
                    yaros 16 October 2019 23: 39
                    0
                    That was revealed)), it was worth picking up a little, for the evening M only the guys from the ECA of Moscow and the liberal riffraff know, the rest is also vocabulary from the same region .... Especially about the wooden point ... a topic that is lousy in the exclusively Ukrainian segment the Internet ... for a point, I can cheerfully tell stories, served in the tundra and there were no others there, in combination with permafrost, a nuclear thing, and mind you, everything was under the USSR ... well, and the rest, where did I lie? About the nuclear power station or icebreakers?
                    1. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 17 October 2019 00: 26
                      -3
                      Do not pay attention - this is a sectarian association of militant communists.
                    2. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 17 October 2019 08: 57
                      0
                      yaros (Alexander Of course, it was revealed))) I am Busoter, agent of the 125th motorcade, a Hahlabander man and an opponent of raising the retirement age.
                      1. yaros
                        yaros 17 October 2019 09: 04
                        +1
                        Come on, you were the first to boast of your mischief, yet I pointed out my kind of troops, I don’t know why the Baltic Plant’s success so upset you, but the truth is that compared to Nikolaev’s abyss ... in short, I didn’t have to hurt me ... And with two Amer’s you will still be charged with shalands, repairs and spare parts for your money, and they will be at the joke with Sagaidachny, they themselves have blamed for ruining everything that is possible.
                    3. revnagan
                      revnagan 17 October 2019 13: 12
                      0
                      Quote: yaros
                      Especially about the wooden point ... a topic that is hiding in the exclusively Ukrainian segment of the Internet ...

                      laughing Well, at least here they opened my eyes. Although, sobsna voooot for so much fellow mmm ... it doesn't matter.
                  2. Avis-bis
                    Avis-bis 17 October 2019 08: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    children in the Ural schools go to a frozen wooden "point"!

                    The names of the settlements on a barrel.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 17 October 2019 08: 48
                      -1
                      Avis-bis (Sergey)
                      I do not see the point in the evidence - this is an obvious fact.
                      Or is there a desire to prove the opposite?
                      1. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 17 October 2019 09: 02
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez

                        I do not see the point in the evidence - this is an obvious fact.


                        The drain is counted.

                        Or is there a desire to prove the opposite?

                        Demonstration of the obvious fact of a complete lack of thinking.
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 17 October 2019 09: 13
                        -1
                        Sergey, here is for general development [media = http: // https: //youtu.be/tlmldgp6ES4]
                      3. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 17 October 2019 09: 48
                        -1
                        Yeah, "fuck-tv" is, of course, an authoritative source. :) Even the Americans did not fly to the moon with them, and the reptilians, hugging drunken bombs, collect bottles. And to suck from a single video any figure on the toilets for them to spit. However, this does not change the shame of the Ukrainian Navy, here are the rural toilets of the Russian Federation off-topic. the lover of the outhouse theme can start a separate branch and shit there. If not afraid.
                      4. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 17 October 2019 10: 10
                        -1
                        Avis-bis (Sergey)
                        It’s clear that the main affectation is litter-tv yes It is also clear, as a day, that the netanalagafwmira against the background of Ukraine look very convincing and our first place on the planet among the coastal fleets is also undeniable, only Greece and Nigeria are behind us. And I completely agree that the sorting subject for the Russian Federation is irrelevant, patamushta
                        we can repeat our most beautiful sketches feel
                      5. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 17 October 2019 10: 33
                        -2
                        Set of letters. Learn the human language, underdeveloped ...
                      6. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 17 October 2019 10: 43
                        0
                        Avis-bis
                        Don’t worry so much, Serozha, you’ll also have sex someday wink
                      7. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 18 October 2019 08: 53
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Avis-bis
                        Don’t worry so much, Serozha, you’ll also have sex someday wink

                        Stop smoking your moss. Jump on less crap nonsense.
                      8. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 18 October 2019 09: 00
                        +1
                        Avis-bis (Sergey) Argentinean "cement" is available only to the upper echelons, and we are left with only crushed oak bark, coal tablets and field daisies, only they do not stick too much request
                      9. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 18 October 2019 09: 46
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Avis-bis (Sergey) Argentinean "cement" is available only to the upper echelons, and we are left with only crushed oak bark, coal tablets and field daisies, only they do not stick too much request

                        A deep knowledge of the subject is felt. Empirical from the inside out. Perennial.
                      10. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 18 October 2019 09: 55
                        +1
                        Avis-bis (Sergey) Do not envy, bore wink [media = https: //youtu.be/t4Gxss_sqqw]
                      11. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 18 October 2019 10: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Avis-bis (Sergey) Do not envy, bore wink [media = https: //youtu.be/t4Gxss_sqqw]

                        Let's strain your rudimentary skull box and spell it out in your own words. I will not spend 12 minutes of my time on a video of incomprehensible informativeness.
                      12. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 18 October 2019 10: 56
                        +1
                        Seryozha laughing Look at speeding tongue
                      13. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 18 October 2019 11: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Seryozha laughing Look at speeding tongue

                        The drain is counted, and my conclusion that you are not able to independently connect the two meaningful words is confirmed.
                      14. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 18 October 2019 11: 32
                        +1
                        Serge Do you have any problems? In life, with health, on the personal front?
                        Usually, different or defective underdogs try to increase their own significance due to the humiliation of the interlocutor.
                        Seryoga, I hope you are not one of them bully
                        And I ask you to note that I condescendingly forgive you your rudeness yes And if you had got me here about 6-7 years ago, you would have left here, in the minuses, like a hedgehog with skulls on uniform fellow
                      15. Avis-bis
                        Avis-bis 18 October 2019 12: 38
                        0
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Serge Do you have any problems? In life, with health, on the personal front?
                        Usually, different or defective underdogs try to increase their own significance due to the humiliation of the interlocutor.
                        Seryoga, I hope you are not one of them bully
                        And I ask you to note that I condescendingly forgive you your rudeness yes And if you had got me here about 6-7 years ago, you would have left here, in the minuses, like a hedgehog with skulls on uniform fellow

                        Again a set of words. Malcheg, get treated already for drug addiction. And, if it’s too late - lay down.
                      16. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 18 October 2019 12: 41
                        +1
                        Seryozha Today I’m tired of you, you need to pause, otherwise I will send you on a long erotic journey bully
                      17. Mic1969
                        Mic1969 18 October 2019 15: 10
                        -1
                        But sho alone tired of going on this trip?
                  3. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 17 October 2019 08: 54
                    +3
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    All your comments are based on snobbery and the illusions of decent life in two capitals.

                    The snobbery of the "boy in short pants" tempered for the red line.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 16 October 2019 20: 58
              +1
              Quote: yaros
              I shot 30 advertising photos at the Baltic Shipyard years ago. Empty workshops generally had 1 -2 orders for the entire factory, and now everything is jammed with the ships under construction.

              "God grant our calf and the wolf to eat." I do not like, like all sailors, "various audio-photo-video correspondents, there is a lot of foam, but in fact" zilch ".
              1. yaros
                yaros 16 October 2019 21: 33
                0
                Duc "wow, we left the bay" I do not like local sailors crying crocodile tears over old aircraft carriers and cruisers .... which nafig are not needed now, the larger the vessel, the easier it is to sink it ...))
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 16 October 2019 21: 52
                  +2
                  Quote: yaros
                  Duc "wow, we came out of the bay" I don't like local sailors letting crocodile tears

                  For the one sitting on the shore and writing about the sea, he thinks that he is "Moreman" and all his food is in shells ", but for us" Salaga "is already a Moreman. Sir, write your articles to" Pionerskaya Pravda ", they will understand you there. I will give an example of one such "coastal moreman" - "We walked by dead reckoning - log and echo sounder readings." Greetings from Captain Vrungel!
                  1. yaros
                    yaros 16 October 2019 21: 55
                    +1
                    Actually, I’m not a Mooreman, I served in GRU OZNAZ, and your petty little Morean shushera doesn’t care, a pot-bellied little thing. But real sailors, including submariner caps, I personally know many and respect, at least they do not whine at all angles))
                    1. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 16 October 2019 22: 00
                      0
                      Quote: yaros
                      Actually, I served in GRU OZNAZ, and your petty little Morean shushera don't care, pot-bellied little thing

                      This is what they eavesdropped on us in the toilet. Approve!
                      1. yaros
                        yaros 16 October 2019 22: 14
                        0
                        Fuck you need)), to listen to you on the toilets ... but the strategists of the probable enemy then yes .....
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 16 October 2019 22: 33
                        +2
                        Quote: yaros
                        to listen to you on toilets ..

                        For your first words, the moderator will warn you. Self-control surrenders. Somehow everything does not fit ..
                      3. yaros
                        yaros 16 October 2019 22: 39
                        +1
                        What does not fit? Your comrades on the ship listened to you in latrine, demand is from them ... and learn to distinguish the KGB from the GRU, it's like in the Müller film to mix Stirlitz))
                      4. bukhach
                        bukhach 17 October 2019 04: 08
                        +1
                        Well, you have the Napoleon complex! They listened to you ... yeah. Curious, in what other interesting places? lol
                      5. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 17 October 2019 07: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: Buhach
                        Well, you have the Napoleon complex!

                        Well, they are all these who are not loved by the army in the navy, they behave as if they had seized God for a place.
                    2. yaros
                      yaros 16 October 2019 22: 12
                      0
                      A typo of OCHNAZ ... I can’t fix it,
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 16 October 2019 23: 39
                        -1
                        yaros (Alexander) Yes, even if you are a black man of advanced years, what does that change?))) tongue
                    3. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 16 October 2019 23: 36
                      -1
                      yaros (Alexander)
                      Are you sure that everyone should stand at attention from this abbreviation of yours? Clever guy, you got into the wrong "forest"))) You go to "Petrov" and "Vasechkin" fellow
                      1. yaros
                        yaros 17 October 2019 00: 04
                        +1
                        laughing Ostap suffered, apparently it was not in vain that they eavesdropped on you in the latrine ...
          4. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 16 October 2019 20: 38
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            Well, for starters, not an aircraft carrier, but an aircraft carrier cruiser.

            This is according to the Soviet abbreviation, but in reality (we all know) an aircraft carrier, and a good one, although not an atomic ship. But for the rest, it all grew up and died before my eyes, the eyes of a waterfowl, everything seemed to tear off a piece of my body.
          5. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 16 October 2019 20: 53
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Well, for starters, not an aircraft carrier, but an aircraft carrier cruiser.

            Sorry, but I better not say anything.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 16 October 2019 23: 40
              -1
              tihonmarine (Vlad)
              Thank you.
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 16 October 2019 17: 45
    0
    At the headquarters of the Navy, they said that after all the boats were included in the Ukrainian fleet, a separate division would be formed from them, which would not only control the near sea zone, but would also be able to "go into the Mediterranean Sea to support NATO ships."
    The sultan will be responsible for receiving the Crimean deputies. Accepted - get a non-flag, opposite the palace or sofa.
    1. gurzuf
      gurzuf 16 October 2019 18: 13
      +2
      Yeah! They can even not only flag in front of the palace, but also spoil right next to the palace ... without taking off the harem pants.
  7. EXPrompt
    EXPrompt 16 October 2019 17: 51
    +2
    If you want to bankrupt a state, give it an aircraft carrier.
    If you want to bankrupt an independent one, give it some old cans of coastal patrol area.
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    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 16 October 2019 20: 49
      -2
      Thrifty And we have something to brag about? From the ocean fleet, our fleet has turned into a coastal one.
  9. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 16 October 2019 18: 02
    -8
    Quote: Nycomed
    We must forget about "Nikolaev Shipyards". Ukraine - forever, and Russia - for a while. good

    You leaked the Mi-6 Old?) wassat
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  11. Terenin
    Terenin 16 October 2019 18: 18
    +1
    Ukrainian portal reports, both boats on board the bulk carrier are already moving
    Question, winked Will the weight of the aircraft change when the flies on the plane take off?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 16 October 2019 19: 10
      +1
      Quote: Terenin
      Ukrainian portal reports, both boats on board the bulk carrier are already moving
      Question, winked Will the weight of the aircraft change when the flies on the plane take off?

      And if the flies fly in the opposite direction? request
  12. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 October 2019 18: 28
    +1
    "... a division that will not only control the near sea zone, but will also be able to" enter the Mediterranean to support NATO ships. " laughing Homeric laughter. It is useful to dream, but hedgehogs are prickly, but there must be a measure in them, and common sense!
  13. vladcub
    vladcub 16 October 2019 19: 10
    +1
    Comrades ,, correctly read: "goes to the Mediterranean to support ships. NATO"?
    Autonomy up to 5 days. Of course, I am not a sailor, but boats with such characteristics CANNOT go far into the sea. They do not have enough fuel and food for the crew.
    1. Rzzz
      Rzzz 16 October 2019 23: 37
      0
      From Odessa to Istanbul a day. Bunkering, food, water. From there, half a day to Gelibolu. Bunkering From there, one and a half days to Piraeus, you can run, Food, water, bunkering. etc.
      But just do not forget that such a boat will consume tons of 3-4 fuel per day. A ton of diesel fuel costs about a thousand euros. Food, water - also at Euro prices. And you have to pay immediately, without any loans. Do you have enough pennies at Pan Ataman Volodimir?
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 16 October 2019 23: 44
      0
      Quote: vladcub
      They do not have enough fuel and food for the crew.

      A tanker and a tavern will go side by side.
      1. vladcub
        vladcub 17 October 2019 07: 51
        0
        In this case, you can go around the world
    3. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 17 October 2019 09: 10
      0
      Quote: vladcub

      Autonomy up to 5 days. (...) They do not have enough fuel and food for the crew.

      In tow behind a merchant ship. Food can be lowered along the tow rope. If you suspend an electric cable, then the microwave ovens will work to heat the rations. You can even visit each other if you arrange the cable car. And even after entering the Mediterranean Sea, kaaak will unhook, kaaak will begin to support NATO!
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 16 October 2019 19: 24
    -1
    Great holiday in kukuevo now / will be soon. Peremoga.
  15. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 16 October 2019 21: 03
    0
    Quote: revnagan
    A chicken on a grain .... It would be nice to restore your production, at least in Nikolaev ...

    If the grain, then by the time of egg production will have time to die three times from hunger.
  16. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 16 October 2019 21: 09
    +1
    Quote: Stroporez
    Agronom
    and tell us, brother, about the Volgograd Tractor!

    I’d better tell you that Russia without this plant became the first grain exporting country in the world.



    It is better to be the first in the world in grain than the first in the world in tractors.
  17. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 16 October 2019 21: 12
    0
    Quote: vladcub
    Comrades ,, correctly read: "goes to the Mediterranean to support ships. NATO"?
    Autonomy up to 5 days. Of course, I am not a sailor, but boats with such characteristics CANNOT go far into the sea. They do not have enough fuel and food for the crew.

    The main thing in such a matter is that it is convenient for a fly to sit on the horns of a bull, and at the end of the strip tell him that WE have plowed.
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 17 October 2019 13: 14
      0
      I remember, I remember this fable
  18. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 16 October 2019 21: 24
    0
    Quote: Nycomed
    We must forget about "Nikolaev Shipyards". Ukraine - forever, and Russia - for a while. good

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlr_696CtnE
  19. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 October 2019 21: 55
    +1
    Quote: yaros
    the larger the vessel, the easier it is to sink it ...))

    A vessel in the marine sense is a "ship" or "duck" in a coastal one.
  20. Astronaut
    Astronaut 16 October 2019 22: 56
    0
    to American anti-ship missiles "Harpoon" and Ukrainian anti-ship missiles "Neptune".

    How will they connect this in the control system?
  21. YOUR
    YOUR 17 October 2019 02: 32
    0
    Amerikosy fellows, not to utilize the decommissioned equipment themselves donated. But what a gift .... Before the transfer, all the weapons were removed from the boats. Kiev pays for the modernization and repair of boats, their transportation to Odessa and staff training .......... the cruiser will build cheaper
    1. Avis-bis
      Avis-bis 17 October 2019 09: 51
      0
      Quote: YOUR
      Americos well done

      Moreover, really well done, we would have to learn. And then we even give out the latest technology for free, and not just decommissioned.
      That's how they conquer the world. Without a single shot.
  22. kupitman
    kupitman 17 October 2019 10: 00
    -1
    I read the comments, I correctly understood that during the period from 2000 to 2019, the shipbuilding industry in our country became worse than it was from 1990 to 2000?
    Just the numbers say a little about something else.
    A simple example is the construction of warships. From 2000 to 2009, 8 ships (including boats and submarines) were built and delivered for the Navy of the country, and 2010 (including submarines and boats) from 2019 to 62.
    If you believe the portal mashportal.ru, then:
    "According to the research" Orders for the construction of ships at Russian shipyards: Results of 2018-2019 "prepared by INFOLine specialists, the domestic industry, according to the preliminary results of 2018, showed an increase in the tonnage of ships delivered by 22% to 275 thousand tons (in 2017, the same indicator At the same time, in quantitative terms, the delivery of ships and ships showed negative dynamics: over the past year, Russian shipyards completed the construction of 225 large ships and ships (from 170 to 20 thousand tons), which is 150% lower than the same indicator of 28 (corresponds to the level of 2017). "
    I don’t understand, Putin destroys industry? And if it destroys, then why? to carve a cow that can be milked? he is a capitalist, he needs to turn his grandmother's chob up and friends could earn the plants he needs.
    Oh. yes, I forgot, Putin made you all pay taxes, but it’s not proper for a true citizen of the USSR to do this, half of you are citizens of the USSR, are you? And the salary in Soviet rubles you get, I hope?

    If we talk about 1989 and before it, and 2 years after, then today the country is smaller, the population is smaller, the needs are different. The USSR set itself the task of feeding the entire "socialist world" at the expense of the Russian people, yes, it was the Russian people (I would say that also the Belarusian), the same Ukrainians, as history has shown, we fed, and it was not they who and their entire industry turned out to be no one needs it, except Russia, and until the events of 2014, industrial cooperation existed for itself. But how they began to break this cooperation, and the timing began to shift to the right.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 17 October 2019 13: 28
      -1
      Quote: kupitman
      The USSR set itself the task of feeding the entire "socialist world" at the expense of the Russian people, yes, it is the Russian (I would say that also the Belarusian), the same Ukrainians, as history has shown, we fed

      Oh, dear father! Breadwinner! Russians and Belarusians "fed" Ukraine! You still have to tell that you have a virgin mother-in-law. You, leave these fairy tales to the schoolboys, and not to those who were born and raised in the USSR. was from the word SOVSEM. But in Moscow (during the USSR I was there last time in 1988) there were a lot of goods from the Ukrainian SSR, including from my city: meat products, butter, cheese, milk, confectionery from Trostyanets and audio tapes "Svema ". Open the Soviet textbook of economic geography and see which of the republics in terms of industrial potential could compare with Ukraine (except for the RSFSR). And the language "whistle" and modern pictures from the Internet to spread is the level of school-lo-lo.
      1. kupitman
        kupitman 17 October 2019 17: 07
        -1
        oh, woke up, don’t worry, I was born and raised in the USSR, in you Ukrainians, the Soviet power was invested in full and you don’t need to tell me that you built your own pipelines there and the industry of the RSFSR had nothing to do with it, for live touch? Yes, you, freeloaders, there were a dime a dozen throughout the Soviet bloc, and the Ukrainian SSR was # 1 in the competition and the Free Sir nomination!
  23. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 October 2019 15: 54
    +1
    Quote: kupitman
    Putin destroys industry?

    It would be nice to be able to not only go over the headings of articles, but also be able to understand the essence of the subject.
    No matter how we swagger about sanctions, they do their job. The delivery of ships without engines, which even before 2014 received from Ukraine, seems somehow dubious. Same thing with aviation. Same thing with ......
    If the supply and the very existence of industries cut off them, they are more than we depend on the destruction of cooperation, then we are forced to either build it on our own or buy from others (the same eastern neighbors), adapt to new conditions, and often refine their ready-made assembly units for other iron.
    And this is caused not only by relations with Ukraine, but also with Germany. Remember the difficulties of building gas power units to generate electricity in the Crimea. Very bleeding had to brush away from Siemens.
    1. kupitman
      kupitman 17 October 2019 17: 08
      -1
      Without question, the sanctions are doing their dirty work, but they also showed that it is pointless to rely on cooperation with the former "fraternal" ones. And the fact that now there is no replacement for the same Motorisich, etc. - oh, what a misfortune, and we have to get out of this hole and I'm sure we'll get out.
  24. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 October 2019 16: 22
    0
    Quote: revnagan
    Quote: kupitman
    The USSR set itself the task of feeding the entire "socialist world" at the expense of the Russian people, yes, it is the Russian (I would say that also the Belarusian), the same Ukrainians, as history has shown, we fed

    Oh, dear father! Breadwinner! Russians and Belarusians "fed" Ukraine! You still have to tell that you have a virgin mother-in-law. You, leave these fairy tales to the schoolboys, and not to those who were born and raised in the USSR. was from the word SOVSEM. But in Moscow (during the USSR I was there last time in 1988) there were a lot of goods from the Ukrainian SSR, including from my city: meat products, butter, cheese, milk, confectionery from Trostyanets and audio tapes "Svema ". Open the Soviet textbook of economic geography and see which of the republics in terms of industrial potential could compare with Ukraine (except for the RSFSR). And the language "whistle" and modern pictures from the Internet to spread is the level of school-lo-lo.



    Something like that.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 17 October 2019 19: 28
      0
      Yes, yes, yes, it was all that way (sarcasm here). You can draw a picture of where Tajikistan feeds everyone and post it here. Would you believe it? No, but they posted it on the site, really (sarcasm here too). And so that the picture is not considered a fake, you need to attach scans of documents of the Ministry of Finance of the USSR, links to these documents in the public domain, as well as where and how you can check their authenticity. And here I see hurray! -Patriotic picture in the style: "We fed everyone! (Together with Belarus)! "But tell me, if tomorrow you have a fight with Father, you will redraw the picture, and it will turn out that Belarus was fed?
  25. NF68
    NF68 17 October 2019 16: 28
    0
    For how long will fools have enough glass toys? All the same, these toys will either be broken or lost.
  26. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 October 2019 17: 10
    0
    Quote: kupitman
    Without question, the sanctions are doing their dirty work, but they also showed that it is pointless to rely on cooperation with the former "fraternal" ones. And the fact that now there is no replacement for the same Motorisich, etc. - oh, what a misfortune, and we have to get out of this hole and I'm sure we'll get out.

    That's right, in a sense, sanctions are useful, but time and cost .....
  27. Vkd dvk
    Vkd dvk 17 October 2019 20: 07
    +1
    Quote: revnagan
    Yes, yes, yes, it was all that way (sarcasm here). You can draw a picture of where Tajikistan feeds everyone and post it here. Would you believe it? No, but they posted it on the site, really (sarcasm here too). And so that the picture is not considered a fake, you need to attach scans of documents of the Ministry of Finance of the USSR, links to these documents in the public domain, as well as where and how you can check their authenticity. And here I see hurray! -Patriotic picture in the style: "We fed everyone! (Together with Belarus)! "But tell me, if tomorrow you have a fight with Father, you will redraw the picture, and it will turn out that Belarus was fed?

    Who's stopping you? Go ahead and with the songs!